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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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@Victor: I remember Skittles Man which SJF linked for you.
I don’t remember reading about “Dick in a box”, but that just instantly evokes the mental imagery required, so…

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@Victor: another idea from Heartiste is a wrapped box of condoms.
https://heartiste.net/drive-by-teases-2/

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@J -”What specifically were you talking to her about dating and how did you sexualize the convo? and how was she responding?” Just how she meets guys, what her type is, oldest guy she’s banged etc. She was responding like she was super comfortable etc, but other than that, hard to tell. I didn’t sense she was into me, for exmaple, despite how friendly and social she was. I felt like she was just one of them girls who was happy to chat ”A simple, “hey lets go find “handsome dude” for your friend” would have sufficed.” Unfortunately, the one… Read more »

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@IAS have your tried any of these? How has it worked for you?

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@ford “Just how she meets guys, what her type is, oldest guy she’s banged” “I felt like she was just one of them girls who was happy to chat” This is good stuff, but these are surface level topics. You gotta go DEEPER into these if you want the desired effect (from “happy to chat” to “wow this guy is really interesting/turning me on”). “Have you ever fucked someone who wasn’t your type?” “Have you ever met someone who was your type and you really wanted to bang him but then he turned out to be super boring? or you… Read more »

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@Blaximus

Last week on a commercial flight a cute flight attendant put her hand on my shoulder and called me “Honey” as she
gave me a soft drink. I was just sitting there, obviously she was so into me, and we weren’t even dancing!

I’m so set for female companions…for the rest of my life!

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@gamenoob @ford @studentofgame

Good day game infield from Alex of UMP:

Besides his verbals (what topics he brings up and how he transitions into them. what frames he’s setting), pay close attention to his non-verbals (body language, bedroom eyes, smile (when he smiles and doesn’t smile) pregnant pauses), and fundamentals/looksmax (clothes, hairstyle, facial hair, tattoo (not really a fundamental, but nice to have a visible one so girls can ask you about it) and implement them.

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Lol @ the skinny jean shit.

Jesus, what’s happened to men ( rhetorical ).

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The struggle is real.

Don’t dress like a bitch though….

Where’s HABD with the ” FI’s hand on your shoulder “??

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Hey AR, are you still incel?

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“I open every girl I want with an indirect situational opener (some guys say its hard to think on your feet. but I find it pretty easy when you’re in a really good flow…a couple of drinks and opening a few guys and girls in the venue before approaching that one girl you really want)” “I open every girl I want with an indirect situational opener (some guys say its hard to think on your feet. but I find it pretty easy when you’re in a really good flow…a couple of drinks and opening a few guys and girls in… Read more »

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Lmao. IDGAF who’s wearing that shit. It’s feminine.

Cookie cutter bullshit. Trends – but this shit is a feminine inspired trend. Skinny tight ass jeans, or jeans hanging off your ass with your drawers showing, all of that shit is feminine inspired.

Plus, drop T levels a few hundred points and guys are more amenable to the feminine frame.

Feminine Frame.

For females.

God help us if women start saying that clown noses are sexy.

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^^ Especially at 2:57 forward.

Video from 2014. Feminism evidently won this battle.

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not gonna get into this gay shit…the point I was making is to not look like a slob. And take pride in your outer appearance.

Alex for example is sporting a Tommy Hilfiger sweatshirt, powerbeats hanging around his neck, black ripped skinny jeans, pf flyers(?) and a modern hairstyle. Aka lookmaxxed.

https://www.instagram.com/mrjunho3/
https://www.instagram.com/magic_fox/
https://www.instagram.com/menwithstreetstyle/

If you don’t like skinny jeans, like if you they gay, don’t like how you look in them, or your thighs are too big for them like me, then just don’t wear them. Simple.

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Agree. Don’t be a fag.

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@j

Thanks for the video. I have reread Bacchus’s post thrice to internalize everything. I never knew about that forum. It has amazing posts, but it seems like it is shutting down and I cannot register as a new member and I am also not able to view a lot of the posts. Have you copied the great posts from on there or is there a backup for them. Would be great to read and learn from them.

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@Victor: I have tried some pretty much like those on the list (without having read the list before) and others that have the same idea.

Another good one that @Palmasailor mentioned a few times is dipping a finger on a drink (preferably her drink) and flicking it to (minorly) splash her face.

But you should really try to understand the underlying idea, not just use specific examples you read on a list!

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@gamenoob Yeah unfortunately you can’t register anymore because they’ve pulled the plug. I don’t know when the new forum will be ready. But I’ll be sure to link it here when its up. In the meantime, here’s a couple of posts, the member of the site found most helpful: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/334805-what-are-your-top-posts-from-nextasf (I recommend just going through @POB and @Skills360’s links) And here’s a couple of more posts from Bacchus that I’ve found helpful: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/328645-the-euro-step-attn-glow (read the comments as well) https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/327187-breaking-rapport-game-vs-connection-game-confusion-pls-help?p=327200#post327200 (his post is down in the comments. Explaining the difference between compliance and attraction) https://soundcloud.com/girlschase/26-daniel-adebayo-verbal-game-and-consistency – his GirlChase interview. Giving an… Read more »

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@j: thanks for the link to that interview, good material.

@Everyone: I recommend listening to the interview. It is under an hour and several interesting verbal game strategies are discussed with specific examples given.

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@j Great post and superb thread: ‘Covert’ versus ‘Overt’ dangers: https://twitter.com/NielsKnk/status/1145617917146476545/photo/1 While it would be good to avoid treading on the ‘dynamite’ in the first place by solid and selective filtering, the unfortunate truth for those of us who veer towards being AFCs, is that sometimes you HAVE to have it blow-up in your face in order learn the often very painful lesson. @neils makes the excellent points that 20/20 hindsight is a beautiful thing, and that, if you fall in love (with the wrong woman) – as I did (Babuskha), love effectively blindsides you anyway. :-() Key takeaway for… Read more »

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@Palma

“I’ve been banging her on and off since November and she didn’t even know / or even ask up to this point”.

well yeah i mean you’re her fuckbuddy and she’s already got a bf. Why would she care about your relationship status up to this point lol. Now that you’ve shown her some provider value (in addition to your AF value), she’s thinking about potentially monkey branching.

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Field Report: Serendipity I was at my old stomping ground. I saw a bunch of old friends. One girl has a new bf and they were leaving early and she wanted a dance before they left. I saw some guys I don’t see a lot and we hung out some. Met the new gf of one of my buddies. My buddies and I were fucking around and I was giving some of them shit. I did the same with another group of buddies. I saw one girl who’s not a friend but follows me extremely well. Mid 20s–cold, yet sexy,… Read more »

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@Palmsailor

“She says “do you have a girlfriend”

I said “not really” and she is totally shocked”

So, is she looking to make you into boyfriend material?

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So, is she looking to make you into boyfriend material?
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https://youtu.be/R4apiZ4pOIo

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@SJF

https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-123/#comment-277547

Don Draper (DD): So tell me, what do women want?

Roger: Who cares? … Jesus, Do you know what they want? Everything . Especially if the other girls have it.’

THIS. smile

Many thanks.

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@Palma

Break it down and we’ll see.

It’s a combination of they’re all just girls</> (aka game works), culture (*) and individual characteristics (self-esteem, personality type etc).

(*) I wrote a piece on Russians/EEs a while back:
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-42/#comment-216306

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@Palmasailor “Anyway moving on, had a date with an Estonian tonight. It was odd, found her difficult to warm up. Either she just didn’t want to know or the rumours of then being cold until they know you have something to them. Anyone got any experience?” No experience with Estonians, but with a Belorusian (geographically as close to Estonia as I have yet been able to get …). She liked to test all the time, and was initially very cold, but being direct and sexualising worked very well. She was aware that she was attractive, and was used to swatting… Read more »

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For those with eyes covered…the point of my field report was that you can have a good time hanging with friends…and girls are just an added feature. You can be authentic and still have a good time. Amuse yourself first. Yeah, I flirt with girls and tell them sexy jokes and they don’t always like the jokes and that’s Ok. Amuse others to make yourself liked. Bring the party to others. Combine this with item 1. Console friends going through a rough patch. This helps you show that you’re authentic. Admit your mistakes and it’s Ok to feel silly about… Read more »

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Tell us about you hanging out with Palmasailor.

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@SJF The inaugural ‘London Summit’ with @Palmsailor was good, and the first step in my education. 😊 We ate, we drank, and we talked… @Palmsailor gave me some much-needed perspective on my Babushka affair, which is helping me to let go… as well as my most recent attempts with the half-Nicaruagan hottie. So that’s a good thing. In contrast to some of the stuff he has been through, I have actually gotten off quite lightly, although it hurts to have fallen in love with ‘the wrong woman’. I am dusting myself down, and need to get out into the field,… Read more »

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Some of you all must be on the rag.

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Public Service Announcement: The YaReally Archive is back online again. Only showing posts from 2012/13 but that’s a start. Good to have it back online instead of relying on the PDF Book of YaReally or messing around finding it on the Internet Archive etc.

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Number one problem in my view is you’re broke, so what you gonna do about that?

Number one is knowing – doing gap.

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@J

Thanks a ton. Went through all of them. Great insights. He mentions that he studied Gunwitch’s Seduction MMA extensively. Tried to find that program on torrents. They all were fakes. Do you know where I can download that program?

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Is this still running, I’m looking for some assistance, wonder if this is still the place. Thanks in advance

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Still running, and very much the place to come to for good advice. smile

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General question. Please recommend good websites to learn game. Not interested in those that charge a fortune.

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Game? How about Rollo’s Year 1 posts? How about Heartiste’s Sixteen Commandments of Poon. All free.

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Go download Mystery Method….

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Fred, be careful to not confuse pickup with game. Sentient is pushing pickup. Rollo wrote a post about children with dynamite where the children know pickup but have no game. “Mystery” himself lacked game and was dumped by his gf because he lacked game. (Erik von Markovic goes by his nickname “Mystery.”) “Is Erik von Markovik married? Yes, he was but his current marital status is not available. He was having a tough time with his wife with whom Markovik is a father to a child. He posted a picture on his Facebook account with his daughter and seems like… Read more »

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@Fred Smith

This site is a few years old, but the principles are timeless.
Some will assert that it is too verbose but if you are starting from utter Blue Pill state the level of detail should help you.

https://masculineprinciple.blogspot.com/2015/02/principles-of-seduction.htmla

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@Fred

What type of game?

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Ignore ASD… Lol. https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-74/#comment-246211

Here is Yareally’s newb resource guide. All should be available free with some digging.

https://therationalmale.com/2016/02/10/the-red-pill-monthly/#comment-140381

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Funny little snippet… So this married neighbor was out at a couples thing recently. She’s a total SJW and browbeats her handsome beta hubby. Saw her at a party six months ago did some teasing etc. from a dominant bon SJW frame. She lapped it up. Was the FR when she came back 10 or more feet to hug me goodbye. Anyhow it’s amazing how much these card carrying feminists crave someone telling them what to do. I’ve seen a ton of this from divorced moms over the last month. About a third of the moms on our teams are… Read more »

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Sentient – did you see that the Bastiat Blogger has taken his blog private? I wanted to go re-read his Septivium thoughts with my new self-improvement perspective and now I have to search around on the Internet Archive. @Fred Smith – welcome to the FR section. All you need is YaReally’s advice, and then to put it into action instead of reading more and more stuff and buffering yourself from going out and taking action (YaReally was a fantastic PUA who used to post a lot here in the comments and in the Heartiste comments and he helped a lot… Read more »

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You might reach him here Sebastian.Pritchard@rollins.edu

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Great stuff Palma. Underscores why these fakers like Bitch Muscles and George Homo are so detestable.

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“practically begging for direction with their kids.” Young men have no guidance and they need it. You know what is interesting in what has happened with young men and women these days? There is less and less contact with older, experienced and successful people. Over the 1.5 million or so years of human existence, it is only for about the past one hundred years that most people have gone to anyone other than the oldest person they knew for solutions to life’s problems. Anthropologists tell us that in prehistoric times, the accumulated wisdom of older people was a key to… Read more »

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“If I’m lucky, when one of them is 50 and I’m dead, one might have led a decent life because he learned something from the old fool that night 30 years ago..” Well, see there you go. Most inspiration on the path to Mastery and Talent (in anything) comes usually from an external source. That seems paradoxical, but it is not. These guys don’t usually sit in a sensory deprivation tank and dream up the next best path to greatness. I have an acquaintance who’s sons are depressed. The older one MGTOW at 20. They have no inspiration. The younger… Read more »

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Palma “I’m thinking next Monday / Tuesday and “hows your head baby girl 🖕?”” Based on her being in the medical field at that age, and assuming you mean she is in “Accident and Emergency” (I’ve never heard that reference in the States), you might want to neg or test her with if she lost any patients she might have saved recently. Or tap into her feelings of stress at work in some way. And get her to get a Feelz that she can relieve stress by having a drink with you. And if you are a sneaky fucker, you… Read more »

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Passing on accumulated knowledge. This. I can’t imagine life without the stuff I’d learned from men x2-x3 times my age. Back in the 80’s, one of my hobbies was collecting samurai style/era swordage. Lol, back then you could by them in NYC at a dozen different stores. A man who’d taught/explained dozens of things to me also collected all kinds of weaponry, including samurai swords, asked me ” you want me to show you how to make one from scratch and how to get the perfect edge on it? “. I almost pissed myself in excitement. He learned from 3… Read more »

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“Ok it means that she deals with the stuff that’s almost road kill and dragged in off the streets almost dead and has to keep it alive.”

So if she has any soul, that’s stressful. Tease and relieve her stress in an artful way.

Good luck!

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I’ll play with her by text Monday / Tuesday to find out when her shift ends and pitch for that. Speaking from a medical job standpoint, you want to suss out her work schedule. Usually in medicine it is not a five day week. It might b 3 or 4 twelve hour shifts in a week. What days, how many days, how many hours? What you are angling for is logistics. You don’t want to blow off steam one night and she has to go into work hung-over the next early morning. That’s OK if you don’t want to angle… Read more »

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I have heard it said that in 1415 about 5000 lads from all across England and Wales showed up in a little country town outside of Calais to celebrate Saint Crispin’s Day with a wee bit o’ shooting sport. Hearing of this, 30,000 Frenchmen showed up at exactly the right time and place to make sure that the lads from across the Channel had a good time by making sure that they were well supplied with targets. Of course I know this is some sort of fable, because in those days there was no Internet and the sort of communication… Read more »

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@Palma “Next thing, the fog horn at the end of the bar asks me what my wine is”. Good. Preselection activated. “Finally they decide to leave and invite me with them”. Nice! “the gay is cock blocking” Why? Were you ignoring him? In my experience: gay friend likes you = pretty much 100% guarantee you will close the girl you’re interested in. They are really good wingman and if your girl is on the fence, they will help make it happen. “plus the fog horn is minging drunk” ok if she was that drunk, then number closing her is pretty… Read more »

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I have to say it. Sorry, as the mother of boys (who have never been bullied, and kick ass) I have to.
Karate is shite for self defense.
Never recommend karate to combat bullies…
to get any level of experience it takes years, and even then boxers tend to be able to beat up martial arts practitioners.
Boxing teaches boys how to punch (unlike the fake air punches in “sparring” modern day martial arts dojos).
Jiu Jitsu is even better.
There’s a video of a Jiu Jitsu guy taking out Chuck Norris very quickly.

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@Sentient – thanks. Just re-read your FR – what the married chick did sounds incredibly intimate and forward right in front of your wife -if I understand correctly she was basically in position to kiss you, especially if she’d moved her hands from your shoulders to around your neck? It’s one thing giving you a hug – but why didn’t her husband and your wife flip out when this happened? @Palma – With the caveat about what @j said (basically if she was that drunk it would have been difficult for you to get a solid number where she remembers… Read more »

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“…with a wee bit o’ shooting sport”

Lots of arrows flung, “a terrifying hail of arrow shot”.

I just received a nice looking Chinese compound bow, purchased off of a computer site (Newegg, nonetheless) for $160.95. I started setting it up, but I’m not sure what my draw length is. Good thing is I have a buddy to ask, rather than Google search it.

But I don’t have anyone to battle and my city ordinances prevent me from shooting arrows in my back yard. But my farm has lots of antler-less whitetail deer. And no such silly regulations.

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@Blax – mostly agree with you, but this: “Everything I know that’s really useful, I’ve learned from older men. The idea among young men that ” everything is different/changed ” damages their ability to rise above the herd of ” average ” men. Today it’s ” why would I need to do that? I can just buy/let somebody else do it “. Actually doing shit yourself? I.can’t express how much of a confidence builder that is, and that confidence becomes almost infinitely transferable – even to women and sex.” This is the same old discussion with YaReally and Scray about… Read more »

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Oh and Palma – remember to sexualize just a bit over text – especially if she doesn’t remember much about your conversation. You don’t need a lot, just a bit of flirting or innuendo to make it clear and remind her you’re interested in her as a woman and it’s not an asexual meetup with a kindly uncle type.

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@Liz

Correct.

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Liz, I agree with you about boxing to some degree. At least over Karate. During my last fight, I used a side kick against a much better boxer. “Take your dough” it might be called (Tae Kwan Do), but it worked for me. One thing I have is a good sense of distance and timing.

I was having trouble clicking upvote on your post and tried the downvote (which worked), but the upvote still doesn’t work. Just on your post.

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Asd If you tried to kick me, I’d break your leg in 3 places.😂 But I like you, so I’d drive you to the E.R. And help you inside. Boxer who studied martial arts. Agree, ju jitsu is more practical, and most arts take years of relentless study, but the close methods of select arts are hard as fuck for untrained street brawler bully those to deal with. You’re not really going to ” learn ” in a class of 20 people punching air, and that’s as far as most people get. I have nephews that are becoming really proficient… Read more »

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Culum Yeah it was incredibly forward. She squared right up. Toe to toe and pushed her pussy right on my cock. So her waist was forward and her shoulders back a bit. My read is they did both see. And concluded this was inevitable. Wild. But exactly what rollo is righting about. Guys happy to share and women happy to share. Well happy is too strong but willing… That fits. She was a real handful after for sure so nerve struck. We shall see though. This womennia gone for a month and I never see her out. Palma I’m with… Read more »

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Lol, Blax, my last fight was decades ago and I don’t wanna fight you. You’re too much fun and, besides, I’d just look pathetic for beating up an old man.

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So the hoop grab here would be go along but lead them to a place you choose.

And concur about fags… Especially if it’s one. They try hard to be the center of attention and have very strong frames.

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@Liz @ Blaximus / @theasdgamer @ Palmasailor Blaximus: I take on board that you have boxed and practiced one of the Chinese in-fighting styles of Martial Arts (Wing Chun?) theasdgamer: Tae Kwon Do? Liz: Now to your post. Firstly, my cards on the table: 11 years of Judo, and 20 solid years of Karate (still training). ” I have to say it. Sorry, as the mother of boys (who have never been bullied, and kick ass) I have to. Karate is shite for self defense.” Not necessarily: It depends on the focus of training. If purely for sport / competition… Read more »

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Norris was a renowned fighter, so, care to post the link? I like Chuck Norris. I’m sure they’ve tried to keep this on the DL but (it’s in the last minute or so): I’ve known a few folks who were really good at martial arts and then schooled by a skinny Brazillian Jiu Jitsu practitioner. It’s what the guy used to combat the attacker on that train in Paris (and he was not a Jiu Jitsu master). I agree an unskilled instructor can be harmful though (and my spouse went to one, many years ago, was injured and gave it… Read more »

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@Liz Thanks for the video link to the Chuck Norris v Gracie seminar demo. So, the Gracie family are the founders of what is now known as Brazilian Jiu-jitsu (BJJ), and in the early days of MMA, their fighters cleaned up. BJJ concentrates on close-quarter combat (excellent for self-defence): throws, arm-locks andstrangulations (for submission), but with less emphasis on the striking techniques (‘atemi-waza’) found in Japanese Jiu-jitsu. It is very similar to Kosen Judo. Their grandfather, Helios, earned the right to teach his ‘brand’ of Jiu-jitsu by defeating every Japanese Kodokan Judo champion sent to Brazil to make him ‘conform’.… Read more »

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FR from last Fri. night at my fav. country bar…just noticing what girls do… Girl #1 is married, mid-30s, bangable…I got her name wrong and have danced with her a lot…she wants me to continue using the wrong name with her…she also calls me “Darling” occasionally, which I see as beta bait…I think her preference for the wrong name is so that she can pretend like she’s another person with me and won’t be held accountable. She might wanna bang me “just because”. There’s no great chemistry, but there’s easy access and I’m “hot enough” for her, maybe. And she… Read more »

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It’s been awhile since I posted but enjoy reading the comments, figured I’d give a report of Saturday night. I had a buddy come in from out of town and he wanted to hit a country bar, he was in town with one of his friends and his daughter was also there. Fairly early in the night I’m standing there talking with them and a chubby girl comes up and ask me if I dance, I say yes I do and if she wanted to dance to the current song. She ask “can you keep up?”, my reply “sure I… Read more »

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So the forward one upthread contrives a way to come round my front porch – kid in tow – and establish phone contact on some pretext… All perfectly deniable.

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Sounds fun. You trying to be the chooser or the chosen though?

“I had checked out a tall young blonde earlier and went straight over and asked her to dance- we did but with some small talk it didn’t seem she was much interested in more than the dance, no big deal.”

Game > dancing

Have you read Mystery Method? Can you breakdown what worked in the last interaction?

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@MrBrian “I look close at her around the 3rd song and kiss her, songs over breaks into next song and we make out a bit on the floor there. I take her outside to get her phone number and kiss a bit more with some small talk”. Do you wanna make out with hotties all night (cause girls are more than happy to do that with random strangers) or do you want to fuck hotties (less likely to do so than the former)? Because if you want to fuck her, then this wasn’t the move. The move was to, make… Read more »

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Lead/follow dancing is an element of game, despite what deniers say. However, dancing is not sufficient by itself. You can use dancing to build attraction and you can use dancing to build comfort and build tension and to ping girls’ emotions. Dancing is superior over PUA game because it takes a shotgun approach instead of a rifle approach like PUA game. Dancing will only give you “liminal space isolation” for the duration of the dance. You have to make a move to get a girl to isolate with you off the dance floor–maybe switch to a food venue or something.… Read more »

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@Sentient – you going to do anything with the phone number? Or not worth it as too close to home etc? @Palma – I think you’ve got the general idea re text game. Only thing I’d say with that plan is that I wouldn’t mess her around too much with who you are. Joke around once maybe and dodge the direct question but it smacks of overgaming if you do it more than that. But that’s kind of a judgment call. Also be prepared for her to just blank you/not reply/block you at any point because you’re not there spiking… Read more »

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@ Culum Struan And you have this – in a nutshell. “@TantumErgo etc – my understanding of the martial arts thing is that the key distinction is arts that routinely train with live sparring (judo, boxing, BJJ, Muay Thai, some forms of karate but not all) and arts that do not routinely train live sparring (other forms of karate, aikido, most kung fu styles, Wing Chun, etc). Unsurprisingly, the arts that train students in “live” sparring produce students who are good at fighting because they actually fight as part of their training – unlike the arts which primarily focus on… Read more »

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Palma/Culum

We will see. We texted back and forth a little. Perfectly deniable. Comm channel open. HABD always says make a prediction – Will let sit and expect she opens some time when she has a window.

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DDB eyes…

This is one of the better examples

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQPHK_7dwTU

Surprised it’s still on the net. Tyler does give a master class in mate guarding though, just pulls her away…

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Thanks for the feedback guys, I’m definitely still working on getting better here and have a lot more to learn.

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Hahaha, that’s a good video – for some reason he’s blurred out Tyler’s face but not anyone else’s?

And how did Tyler know he was filiming? He asked almost immediately if he was filming..

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He knew Cassonava was a pua and he threw Cassanova out of a Summit session prior, and he himself was out shooting infields.

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TantumErgo …been away floating in the Atlantic for a few days ( with stingrays no less ). ” Blaximus: I take on board that you have boxed and practiced one of the Chinese in-fighting styles of Martial Arts (Wing Chun?)” I boxed for 30 years, give or take, 10 as an amateur. I studied Wushu way back ( 70’s-early 80’s ) because when I grew up, before guns, there was an awful lot of fighting taking place. Studied off and on for about 5 years, but boxing won out as it took up most of my time. I became interested… Read more »

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“Plus I had a mini arsenal of Tonfas, nunchucks, staffs and broadswords that I wanted to learn how to use.” Lol, some of us never grow up. I still like that shit. When Dirty Harry is on, I pull out my .357 when the scene comes on, “Do ya feel lucky, Punk? Do ya?” When Bruce Lee is on, I pull out the nunchuks. Sometimes the balisong knives, too. And when Ivanhoe or The Vikings are on, the broadsword comes out. When Robin Hood comes on, I pull out the longbow. When The Wind and the Lion comes on, or… Read more »

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J illustrating how not to hit on a waitress, lol. But thanks and keep on trying!

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@palma – this is the drunk doctor girl you met with the gay friend? And then text gamed?

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Palma

Vanilla Man Babies… Arent they playing Glastonbury?

Lolz. What was the butter bit about?

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Having A Bad Day And Sentient and all the others who advised me on my predicament with online dating a woman who is going to be my kids’ teacher in the new school year – thank you. As you all said, I was overreacting and freaking out. Once I made my excuses and vaguely promised to meet next week, she faded away and unmatched me herself a few days later. Don’t think I have anything to worry about. Even if I meet her at school after my kids join, I’ll just pretend nothing happened. That said, this has triggered some… Read more »

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Also, just so that it is not all “angsty” stuff from me: wife aside, I’m slowly starting to get a grip on my son’s issues. He still has them, but much better when I’m around to the point my wife said something last week along the lines of “I know I’m a feminist and all that, but I have to say [son] really needs his father..he is so much better when you are at home and not travelling”. And she frequently now calls me – phone or in person – to discipline him when he’s starting to get out of… Read more »

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@TheMarquis Having A Bad Day And Sentient and all the others who advised me on my predicament with online dating a woman who is going to be my kids’ teacher in the new school year – thank you. As you all said, I was overreacting and freaking out. Once I made my excuses and vaguely promised to meet next week, she faded away and unmatched me herself a few days later. Don’t think I have anything to worry about. Even if I meet her at school after my kids join, I’ll just pretend nothing happened. i’ll just point this out…… Read more »

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Marquis Very good insights. Sorry to hear about the PE stuff… +1 to all of HABD’s comments. This is all about the fear of the outcome. but it feels like I can’t develop myself to my potential without addressing these issues – and they have to do with me, not my wife. I have to make myself into a better man who feels whole and at peace with himself. Yup. Authenticity. Also realize that this here (there are other issues with my wife) Is also coming from fear… Great stuff with your kid… That is exactly what being a dad… Read more »

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I have one thing to add to HABD’s excellent analysis…even if you tell a girl that you’re married, she may still try to blame you later for messing around with her when you’re married, especially if your relationship causes her any problems…in which case, the go to play is simply to poke fun at her for this tactic (“whatever” with an amused grin should be perfect), which implies that she’s being silly and absurd…

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Following on my previous comment, an incorrect response would be to take her accusation seriously, as in:

She: You were married and shouldn’t have tried to get in a relationship with me!

You: What do you mean? You knew I was married.

[at this point you have slipped into the girl’s frame…if you say, “whatever” and grin, you maintain your frame]

…if she pushes some more, “you’re right, it doesn’t take two to tango” (Agree and Amplify) is the play, while maintaining your grin…you maintain your frame and she is chasing, which means that she has abandoned her frame

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She: You were married and shouldn’t have tried to get in a relationship with me! You: Yeah, I’ve done a lot of shit in life that I shouldn’t have done. Poor me…. sigh maybe I’ll just walk into traffic. or You: I didn’t get into a relationship with you. Ohhhh, I see what happened here, you caught feelings. You couldn’t control your emotions. Lol, it’s okay, I forgive you. ( I’ve actually used a similar line ) or You: I’m gonna order some chow because I have a relationship with Uber Eats. You want something? It takes a certain kind… Read more »

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Blax, if a girl goes nuclear over your dismissal of her bullshit, which you both know is bullshit, it’s a test of your frame. This isn’t rocket science. You hold frame. You can backturn and leave her immediate vicinity if that’s appropriate and take an interest in something or someone else in the room. If you’re isolated with the broad, you just depart.

This sort of test can help alert you if you are too invested in the broad.

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Marquis Suggest you ditch online stuff and focus on cold approach SNLs. First it will greatly improve your game by going for SNL. Second it avoids a lot of the issues you face with the online stuff you are doing. No numbers, no phones… Often in this scenario no names as well. That’s comms securiry. I tried early on using a fake name, just a first name even. Doesn’t sit right. Generally as HABD says if you amp up the attraction the name thing may never even come up. I’ve discovered though even if they know your name and number… Read more »

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