Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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@Sentient “Which is often a deliberate posture to then sell your “improved” products process” Teevster and I (as well as others in my chat) get laid in less than an hour, because we understand and follow the same process (there’s no accident “I don’t know what I did. it just happened” fools gold bullshit that mystery talked about. There are deliberate frames/topics we set/talk about that have allowed us to cut through that long process. That we want other guys to be following as well. That’s why I post here. I read the field reports on here, and see where… Read more »

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” Teevster and I (as well as others in my chat) get laid in less than an hour, because we understand and follow the same process (there’s no accident “I don’t know what I did. it just happened” fools gold bullshit that mystery talked about. There are deliberate frames/topics we set/talk about that have allowed us to cut through that long process. That we want other guys to be following as well. That’s why I post here. I read the field reports on here, and see where that person could have cut corner here and there. Said this and this… Read more »

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I disagree strongly. I know guys that are knocking chicks down like bowling pins, and have been doing so for decades.

It’s just that I’m not a fan of the ” everyone else in the world is doing it wrong, lol, lol, lol ” vibe. Chicks fuck. If a guy needs to understand anything at all, that should be the first thing. The ever growing minutae ( to boost sales ) is a little odd. These are women we’re talking about, not quantum physics.

/end rant.

big smile.

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Allow me to help. Both of you are right. There are obviously naturals/alphas who have never heard of Game who are now and always have been knocking it out of the park with women, long before Mystery was born. Mystery’s genius was that he was able to reverse engineer and codify what they were doing. Not that he was the first man to get laid a lot. This is what Blax is talking about. However Palma is talking about something different- he’s talking about the vast majority of Gameless betas who do get laid but not like the alphas –… Read more »

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“I disagree strongly. I know guys that are knocking chicks down like bowling pins, and have been doing so for decades” Because those guys were naturals (by natural I DO NOT mean they were born with God level game at birth you fucking idiot. (How many times have we had this conversation?) By natural I mean they got laid at an early age 11-15 because they were either or a combination of 1) extroverted/not autistic 2) good looking 3) had male role models). Henceforth, They had zero need for PUA. Someone who didn’t need PUA to become good with girls… Read more »

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Thank you @Culum

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Palma ” By the way, whilst it is my gut feeling that most men over 50 could get a giiirlllfriend complete with negotiated sex for a year or two at most by trading commitment, I do not believe that most over 50 women could get a boyfriend by offering sexual in return for commitment. The tables turn I think. Men just don’t want to know and don’t believe they can go younger.” I agree with this 100%. But I don’t believe in guys negotiating for sex with any woman of any age. They don’t have to, unless they are wearing… Read more »

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I think you both mean to say 50 YO WOMEN and younger men…

On cue. Lyon

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0MHKVeACd0/

It’s a fantasy for women and no where near reality. I never see a young guy with an older woman. I see a lot of 50yo guys with mid 20s women.

But for sure the average (that word) 50 guy would much rather join with a 50 YO woman.

Something about “talking” which I don’t get at all…

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“Back in 19(whenever birth control was created. Too lazy to look it up) and when travel was expensive, there was legit social shaming for whoring around” The first girl I banged was in ’74 and she was on the pill. She was paranoid about getting caught, so we didn’t go on dates where we might be seen, but we banged in her dorm for five days when no one else lived there during summer school. Travel wasn’t very expensive back then. Gas was a helluva lot cheaper. Social expectations for girls were a whole lot more conservative back then and… Read more »

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Thank you Again to everyone who posted for me. I’m not sure I have that much to add. I think I just need to absorb the firehose of information and try to process it both mentally and through action, most importantly by implementing recommendations from IRL and Sentient and Having A Bad Day. It’s hard to change my brain to “living in my frame” – it’s hard to even know what that means in real time but I’m going to do what it takes. I have just changed all my online dating accounts to say that I am married. Next… Read more »

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Another one to add which made me laugh out loud at the sheer childishness of it and also the way in which younger girls think and act. A girl I took out twice in her 20’s, smart, sexy i’d put at HB8 just because she’s slim and young pulled a stunt worth sharing. I took her out twice, k-closed but because of her job and weird hours it was hard to meet up for a 3rd time. I suggested drinks 3 weeks back and she replied but never got back to me with an alternate time. So after 3 weeks… Read more »

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Wala That’s IOI/IOD loop in action. You stopped chasing – and IOD. And you then did what? What you are supposed to do after an IOD – you Demonstrated High Value… DHV – “chat with the girls, the host and otherwise have a good time. ” So what happens – she gives you a huge IOI… Now I think you dropped it by not playing along, after her BD text. Called for an IOI back and a compliance test. Her delete was an IOD. Remember – microcalibration with 8s and up… Trick is spotting AND reacting in real time… But… Read more »

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Marquis “I have just changed all my online dating accounts to say that I am married.” You crack me up… “Interestingly wife told me this three separate times the next day, each time as if she was telling me for the first time.” She’s looking for a reaction from you. Ignoring is best, or an offhand “yeah. I get that a lot” and MOVE ON… Avoid the whole beta HS boy “me! Rillllly? What did she say exactly!!!!” “Anyway her husband told her he “doesn’t want to have sex with a corpse” and they haven’t had sex in months. I… Read more »

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@Marquis Good Job. “I said “that is called starfish sex” and wife got annoyed, almost like she was faux irritated. She literally said “When you say things like that, it makes me not want to have sex with you..when we were first dating it felt like you were this responsible, mature adult and I was the crazy one, but you actually seem to be regressing back to being a frat boy when you use words like this..” – but she didn’t really seem sad. “Exasperated” is probably the right word.” One of the cards in her Rolodex is: “You/this is… Read more »

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@sentient. She deleted it within an hour of sending it somehow expecting me to jump on it and respond. So no, I didn’t blow this. She will be back. She’s young and wants to know the guy she’s with can measure up. This was a shit test to see if I came chasing. I didn’t.

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Marquis, “And she almost shouted at him not to whisper to me and to say it loudly.” Translation: “You’re turning the kids against me by making me act crazy-paranoid and say outrageous things!” Been there. Keep in mind when she does this she considers the kids and you as useful tools of her external validation. It is a sign of insecurity and misplaced expectation. If your wife considers the usefulness of others (provisioning, sex, admiration, status) worthwhile and that usefulness wanes or evaporates, her love turns to hate as her expectations of your meaning are disappointed. She wants the good… Read more »

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Wala

Well you have the view she is going to contact you next. I think this was microcalibration window missed (specific to her BD text).

Time will tell.

Seeing her out again not the same as her getting in touch.

I hope you are right.

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Palma

Tantum was holding solid frame in her native language but she was having none of it

Sounded more nervous / slightly embarrassed than harsh. Was her boss anywhere in the place?

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Sentient and SJF and EhIntellect – thank you. Thanks for the confirmation regarding my wife’s loss of control – I did think so but it’s interesting. I’m soldiering on. Oh I realised I’d forgotten the most important of the Starfish conversation and didn’t add it in my last post. When she got irritated and told me she didn’t want to have sex with me, I didn’t really respond or justify myself, and then she babbled something else for 30 seconds or so, and then she said “But I’m not like that in bed..I don’t just lie there”. I said “I… Read more »

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Marquis Somebody posted this earlier https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle/article/faceapp-beauty-standards It bears further scrutiny because this is exactly what’s going on in her hind brain. Every day you are getting more valuable and she is getting less valuable. The script is flipped (insert RT SMV chart) Of course the subtext is all SJW Equalist drivel – women are beautiful, app designers reflect misogynist bias, etc. But all the anti reality spray in the world is not leeping out the deep dark inner truth from taking center stage… Afew quotes: ““It sounds like an absolute existential horror app,” says 31-year-old university worker Bex Coates. “I’m… Read more »

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Geez, Rollo

Just had a post not post in field reports regarding love the one your with and your child, Marquise.

It disappeared.

Can you retrieve/post it?

If not, so what?

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@SJF Get in the habit of Ctrl + A / Ctrl + C. Every time I make a post anywhere online, every so often, I always hit Ctrl + A, then Ctrl + C. I’ve been doing it so long I don’t even realize I’m doing it anymore. Just auto-pilot. It saves a lot of frustration in the long run. If you’re really working up a masterpiece, paste it into Notepad for safekeeping. But for the most part, keeping it copied to the clipboard using those keyboard shortcuts will suffice. I got into this habit years ago in my teens… Read more »

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@TheMarquis About the rooted (even before the cultural programming feeding it) pro-feminine bias of women, it springs I think from solipsism — whenever they pick sides in an issue involving another woman and another man, they will patron the woman outside of any concept of fairness, reciprocality, and rationality, because they themselves are women and their ego perceives the other woman, as, partly, her own self. Basically they can do nothing aside from irrationally, unfairly, patron their own egos. Anything beyond the personal sphere is felt and judged according to how much it is felt as “their own business”. On… Read more »

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#@TheMarquis

Proof of what my previous comment says is, when the strange woman’s interests and conduct cross Woman A’s interests (thus upset her ego, the center of her mental expanse, occupying most of it), then she’ll be against the woman, see her as scheming and bad whilst the man involved in the intrigue as “innocent” and “harmless”, and words of truth on the negative sides of womanhood will, exceptionally, pour out of her.

That’s the only exception to the rule.

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Come on now TT. Do you even TRM?

It’s not ego. It’s women’s collectivist nature. What’s good for one women benefits them all.

Load some Evo-bio/psych in your gun, you’ll hit a lot more targets.

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Marquis “Yesterday talking about divorce of a different friend of my wife. Son was around. Wife going on about the evil done by the ex-husband and I said “there’s two sides to every story – we haven’t heard his” and she got upset saying there isn’t. Then my son leaned over and tried to ask me something about this quietly – almost a whisper, but not quite. And she almost shouted at him not to whisper to me and to say it loudly.” This shouting at your son is about hypergamy. Threat one the sisterhood hypergamy is threatened by your… Read more »

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Palma

I feel you man. My “conditioning” started at the age of three when I let it slip about a male friend of hers from college visiting,I was exited about being rolled in an old tire.

Her main problem was my Dad and I had bonded so that even after the divorce I remained loyal and suffered no end of abuse that continues today.

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Palma,that’s a rough mouthful. Looks to have been written by a 13 yo. His attitudes will change when his interest in girls peaks,and again when he witnesses hypergamy first hand and feels the effects. It could be a long wait but from what I’ve seen it is inevitable. I guess I was 17 and had it with her and her actor husband so I went to work for my Dad. All he ever said about her is “she is crazy”, on the other hand I could fill a story book about him and why he is this way and that… Read more »

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I can handle being MGTOW too as long as the wife keeps putting out more because of it and she is.

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Fantastic Friday evening (26th July) in the excellent company of @Palmasailor in London’s Covent Garden and Soho districts by way of London Summit 2#. As theory is nothing without practice, here a some FRs (my first) for examination and comment: :: FR1 – Tapas Bar: Mid-to-late-20s Blonde barmaid from Madrid (“MB” = Madrid Blonde) :: Palmasailor and I needed a bite to eat, so we dipped into a tapas bar early evening, and ate some good Spanish cold meats, tuna and tortilla, washed down with an excellent glass of white wine. I noticed the barmaid, a reasonable 5.5/6, slim honey-coloured… Read more »

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:: FR 2# – Friday 26th July with @Palmasailor in London – French / Swiss duo (both early-to-mid 20s brunettes) :: PART 1 Bounced into a Peruvian bar with Palma and had a couple of drinks outside at a table. Palma went inside to get a couple more, returning with two girls, one French and one Swiss – both brunettes in their early -to-mid 20s, and friends who had, at one time, both shared a flat together. Palma pulled up an extra chair and the French girl (“FG) immediatly sat down, while the Swiss girl (“SG) stood opposite us, saying… Read more »

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:: FR 3# – Friday 26th July with @Palmasailor in London – Argentine Tango (Brunette, 43 (“ABR”) and Blonde, 48 (“ABL”)) Same Peruvian bar with Palma; FG and SG from FR2# had disappeared …. Two women came and sat down at the table adjacent to where Palma and I were sitting. This was a poser … Firstly, the seating arrangment was not good: the two women, both Argentine were effectively sitting side-by-side at one table, with Palma and I mirroring at the other – like starlings on a fence, so difficult to engage in convo. Secondly, and this is just… Read more »

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:: FR 4# / FNL- Friday 26th July in London – Black-haired mature Greek-Cypriot (55) (“GC”) :: Note: @Palmasailor knows most of the details of this FR / FNL report – and it’s quite lengthy :-/ So, after @Palmasailor had left for the evening, I decided to have a night-cap at a favourite basement bar of mine in London’s Soho district. This is actually a gay bar which I know well, and I am friends with one of the barmen there, whom I have known for about three years. They were already closing by the time I got there, but… Read more »

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@TantumErgo – good FRs man. Some thoughts. FR 1: I had a hilarious near-identical conversation with a French girl years ago when she realized I knew that the University of Paris 2 was called Assas, because most people have only heard of the Sorbonne (Paris 1). Basically what Palma said on this. You didn’t have enough attraction (therefore did not get an IOI), therefore your escalation (in this case asking for a number) did not work. You needed to DHV a lot more and get IOIs before going for the close. You did DHV a bit with fluent Spanish etc,… Read more »

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Tantum

Her “Por que?”

Tantum “Estoy muy caliente”

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@TantumErgo Great to read about you out in the field. Not many men do that and hardly any your age. Some points for you to look into for future ventures. Look at these elements peppered into your interaction (who’s on the hunt and who’s the prey?): she asked me to go back in and see if her two gay friends were still in the bar Which you do… for free… missed the opportunity to test her frame and ask her to do something for you first. Her hindbrain would have registered a different Tantum. She then suggested we go elsewhere… Read more »

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@ Marquis ” it’s hard for me to think of my wife in such cold dispassionate terms.” Tough-love is tough for a reason. Otherwise we’d say tough-like. Love is eternal, creative and perpetuating. Love is a fixed purity, dispassionate and certain. It is correct, righteous, in a meaningful way. Like is a preference, variable, fueled by emotion and uncertainty. It may be correct in its meaning, intent and execution…maybe not. Here we risk failure to ourselves and others, blowing around in the winds of emotion. “Wie gefaellt’s Ihnen?” is German for “How do you like it?” Literally translated It is… Read more »

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Tantum Good stuff man. You can be a killer if you tighten up a little bit… How much capital G Game have you gotten into? Have you read Mystery Method? And importantly – have you watched the many seminars online where Mystery expands on things? There are also a number of good ones by Matador and LoveDrop on body language and kino btw… The good stuff – Obvi you are solid at opening, at least in respect to approach anxiety and you can carry on a conversation. I suspect you are above average looking and note the cream pinstripe jacket…… Read more »

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Oh and congrats boys on the London Red Pill Summit producing 100% more lay reports than Poland…

Aside – update on PussyGrinder… Not going into a lot of detail.. but to test my feeling… sent a text : Hey. Your husband around?

and BOOM! she was all LOL… OMG!!! he is right here… I had a follow up that was innocuous to blunt the edge, but that cat jumped out of the bag.. lol…

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“you PUSHED that last bar” There are guys who recommend bailing unless there are overt IOI’s. Persevering in the absence of IOI isn’t totally unwarranted. An absence of her overt IOI isn’t a IOD. There’s no reason to assume she didn’t want your number until she said “no”. It’s a good practice to efficiently move the conversation along…which you did. A lot of guys assume without an overt declaration of IOI there’s no point in opening or pushing the bar of expectation. Sentient is aggressive in his approaches and doesn’t back down in uncomfortable shit testing. Formidable frame under withering… Read more »

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Good points Eh. To clarify – what I meant by “pushing” the last bar, the one with the greek, was that it was late, the bar was closing etc. It would be easy to go home. But so often there is gold waiting to be picked up… They do call it “golden hour”… even post golden hour can be golden…

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“golden hour” Anecdote…. A buddy and I are downhill skiing. We’re at an apres ski party in the main resort. I pick up a woman and left to bang I forgot to hand off the hotel key to my buddy. He’s sleeps in the hotel lobby until he’s kicked out He wanders up to the room and is hanging out, sitting with his back against the door at 2AM waiting, pissed. A girl walks up and chats with him. At some point she asks if he’ll come back to her room to fuck. Just like that. No joke. He popped… Read more »

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The options being some sort of substance abuse. There isn’t a substance that I haven’t abused at some point. That turned out to be the best form of self medication ,walking in bitter creek. Just lucky to come out the other side in one piece. “In hindsight I contained the ex wife until the 2009 banking crisis at which point she pinged me for weakness when I was at my wits end. The shit tests went nuclear after I failed one after another, but here’s the thing, I woke up one morning after a nuclear fall out and told her… Read more »

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One more for the road.

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@Palma Boundaries are good to have set,I finally learned to draw the line at physical contact. Abuse from a primary care giver leaves out boundaries. The way things read if it is patriarchal abuse thats believable and will garner sympathy, if on the other hand it is matriarchal abuse then you must have done something real bad to deserve it. basically I am on my own,may as well get used to it. I run to extremes ,I am extremely sober at the moment and have been for years. And have a tendency to go all in on people and then… Read more »

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@TantumErgo +1 on IRL’s analysis… i could add some more detail, but the basic idea is that she has you fitted for your shiny armor… AND the bit and saddle…lol… but in spite of that^^^ you are actually doing great!… and props for getting in the field… especially that solo at the end of the night… like @Sentient says it is really easy to just call it bc your wing went home… IF… and that’s a big IF bc she is 55…lol… if you want to turn it around with the GC, you are going to need a game plan…… Read more »

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@palmasailor Instantly I was hit with more shit and every form of blackmail she had in the Rolodex. I just said no and walked. Before long she was begging but by now I’d had it. She was beside herself in pieces. I reckon most men could swap the frame of their marriages like that. that’s the only way is actually works… you have to be willing (and mentally there) to just leave… and then just ‘don’t get divorced’… if you want to stay married anyway…lol but the more you ‘want’ to stay (which is BP… and a frame shift away… Read more »

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@wahoo McDaniels

I run to extremes ,I am extremely sober at the moment and have been for years.

props!!!… that sh*t ain’t easy… but it is worthwhile…

good luck!

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“bc every time she criticizes you, she is criticizing one half of HIM… most parents don’t get that idea… or they really don’t care…”

This ^ is a fact, when he loses respect for his tribe of origin his identity is gone. This tends to the worst.

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Ahhh nothing like sweet validation 🤗

https://imgur.com/a/oTiuj2E

Feeling like my idol
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@HABD or anyone else

Hey HABD,
I have seen you mention the guard dog spinup situ many times but havent seen it used by anyone else in these parts of town and don’t get it from context. Would you mind explaining it in short?

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@Palma Tantum I accidentally discovered a way to get a girls hamster spinning without saying a word.

I sent a WhatsApp message to the wrong girl and then deleted it. It appears as “message deleted” in her messages.

The girl immediately began madly texting wanting to know what I said and then ended up reconnecting to meet up.

Try it….send a message and then within1 minute delete it. Watch the fireworks.

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Ummm J, Ruby’s sex tourism was from 3rd world to 1st world… Not the other way round.

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@walawala Nice! I use this open loop concept infield to great effect. I alternate between leaving them open, by side stepping her inquiries into things she wants to know more detail about (“nah don’t worry about it. its not important.” “nah i’ll tell you later” etc) (but never closing them) and closing them, by answering the bait I threw at her, by DHVing myself. By alternating between the two, it always leaves her unsure of what I’ll do. @Sentient P O W E R F U L neg. lol. but seriously. ya because 1st world is ALWAYS higher quality than… Read more »

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Hold up. Spoke too soon

1950’s Vikki Dougan can get it
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@j these accidental situations often can be worked into something that becomes more natural.

The kitten-string idea can be worked out in ways you describe.

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@Johann

How do you feel when you know a girl you banged yesterday banging some other guy today?

If it’s a plate, honestly, I don’t care. I just don’t want to know. The girls are usually smart enough not to bring it up and I don’t ask. There’s truly no strings attached.

If it’s a girl that I’ve been seeing and am interested in pursuing and I find this out…I dump her immediately. I don’t explain, I just ghost her.

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I was trying to think where I saw that pic before
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Ah yes. Indigenous peoples.

Look you miss the note as per usual. It’s not about a 5/6 or even pygmy fetishism.

It’s about the validation seeking. Break that before it breaks you.

Enjoy what you want, leave the validation at home.

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@ Sentient @ Calum Struan @ Wahoo McDaniels @ IRL @ Palmasailor :: London Summit – 26th July – Field Reports :: Gentlemen Many thanks for your considered analysis and feedback, which is much appreciated There is a lot for me digest here, and I will endeavour to get back to you on your individual responses as soon as I can. The short-and-ugly of it is that, while I have never usually had any trouble getting women – doing so according to a tight game-plan is STILL new to me, and I am here to learn. None of last Friday’s… Read more »

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@ Sentient

That’s fucked up man.

😂😂😂😂

First belly laugh of the day.

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@Sentient Wat? 😂 indigenous looking girls are just as ugly as black girls to me, broski. I shared her face before in a separate post. No indigenous facial features. “Look you miss the note as per usual” You framed it as 1st world women are superior to 3rd world women. Looking at Ruby’s roster, that’s laughable (although I understand Ruby was using these older girls to fund his lifestyle). “It’s not about a 5/6” If the girl in the pic is a 5 (lol) then what are Ruby’s girls rating (I know you have a bias for blondes so you’re… Read more »

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No indigenous features

😆😆😆😂

It’s about ” preference ” and that’s all.

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@Tantum

“Me: Very well — Catch you next time”

maybe I’m reading this wrong, but I think what she was trying to say was that she just wants to fuck. And doesn’t want to stay over for dinner/sleep over. so I would have replied, “aight see u friday”

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@j

Read FR #4 and my later follow-up.

She already made it clear that if we meet on Friday, then she plans to go home straight afterwards because she has “plans on Saturday morning”.

Hence the ‘I am cooking dinner gambit’.

GC knows that if she comes round to my place then I will nail her. 😊

TantumErgo

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@Tantum Yeah mate I’ve read it. To me “after seeing you” = “after fucking you” (she already knows where you live. And even if she wants to meet somewhere else first, then just meet her at a spot near your place (don’t let her pick). Then just turn her on, and bring her back to your place (“change her mood, not her mind”) (“hey lets go to my place for a bit before you go back home”). “She already made it clear that if we meet on Friday, then she plans to go home straight afterwards because she has “plans… Read more »

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My point on YOUR Ruby comparison is it is harder to come from a shithole and get laid in the top strata of society than the reverse.

Aim higher… And still leave your sweet validation to the side.

I did discover this though

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Dwarf_vs_Midget

Could be a good opened in there.

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Tantum Yeah man agree with J… she was down to just come over and bang… Question: Are you OK with just providing the dick and NO rom-comming? Or do you think you have to earn it in some way? Are YOU enough? [serious questions] Your path to improvement is going to be inner game/frame and technique/sequencing… Look at this Took some good advice from Palma, and played the ‘I am cooking gambit’ – here’s how the exchange of messages has run: Why do you need a gambit on a girl you’ve banged what FOUR times??? Unless YOU are NOT enough…… Read more »

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Likely that Saturday morning she is having brunch with one of her boyfriends…

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That pic is from one of Roosh’s lesser works – BANG! – Manaus I believe…

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@Sentient “it is harder to come from a shithole and get laid in the top strata of society than the reverse.” I agree. But while Ruby may have been born in a shithole. He was always banging upper class pussy. He was born to UMC parents after all. And spent much of his youth in Paris, France (a first world country) up until age 17: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porfirio_Rubirosa Brazil and Peru, like Dominican Republic, may be shithole countries in general. Especially when compared to the likes of Switzerland, Norway, and America. But the neighborhoods of Jardins, Sao Paulo, Brazil and Miraflores, Lima,… Read more »

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I suggest you get around more before making such generalistic claims.

There is a reason there is a term sex tourism and there is a flow to it. For men and women… And gradations as well… Based on core concepts of value and who has it and what they are willing to do for it.

Why do you think all these London guys were heading to former SU countries? Cause there are no hot girls on the high streets?

See if you can figure the dynamic in play here…
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The claim was that I was banging 5/6 indigenous girls.Which was false. Now you admit there are hot girls, south of the border, but that they are “easy” for men from 1st world countries. “It’s suppose to be hard to get laid bro!”

I’m not traveling to these and other countries because I can’t get laid in my own country like the London daygamers. I travel because I want to.

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lol… I know there are hot girls all over the world… but still that pic is not a good pic hoss…

Carry on playa

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” Brazil and Peru, like Dominican Republic, may be shithole countries in general. Especially when compared to the likes of Switzerland, Norway, and America. But the neighborhoods of Jardins, Sao Paulo, Brazil and Miraflores, Lima, Peru, where both of these girls live (upper class neighborhoods), are anything but shitholes. I suggest you get around more before making such generalistic claims.” Question: What does any woman’s ” class ” have to do with anything, especially wrt ” hotness “? Btw, sorry J, you post up an awful lot of 5/6’s as if they’re universally ” hot “. Lol, you talk a… Read more »

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And…. drum rolll…

It’s OK to bang average chicks – if you want to… Just don’t get all validaty over it.

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…. ohhhhh, maybe that’s the ” validation ” thing. Upper class chick ( lol ) banged me, so I have worth that’s been validated .

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Correct. There are more average chicks around than above average chicks. There’s nothing inherently ” wrong ” with banging them. I’d bang that chick J posted ( although she’s carrying a little extra around the waist ), but I drive past those every day when I’m out. 5/6 on a good day.

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cute though.

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I post girls that are 7-7.5s (and i take photos while I’m with them. So they don’t have time to Photoshop/alter the images. I notice some guys post pics from the girl’s instagram. Where she looks her best. And not as good as she looks like IRL). and you call them 6s. (If I recall correctly, sentient called skinny no tits or ass Taylor Swift a 7. And you call your 50 something year old wife a 7. I know what a fit 42 year old woman’s body feels like. It’s nowhere close to as good as a fit 22… Read more »

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Lol, don’t get upset playa.

I’m still waiting for you to post a 7-7.5. Haven’t seen it yet, but you are posting up 20 something average chicks.

There’s. Nothing. Wrong. With. Average. Chicks.

like sentient says, as long as that’s what you want to do.

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for the record… I believe in her best day she was a 7 and change… most ‘stars” are artfully contrived.
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Now ‘skinny”? You’ll need to retract that claim… smile

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“skinny”?

Ya. Let’s take off that photoshop shall we?
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Photoshop?

lol

You haven’t gotten the memo… Swifty done got fat.

https://twitter.com/taylorswiftfat?lang=en

Blax – I think you broke J…

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“in her best day she was a 7”

well, In her best days she was a
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“You haven’t gotten the memo… Swifty done got fat.”

To quote my guy, @AR, So?

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Semi related, another one of these “stars”, people say is “hot”, Miley Cryus, recently posted this pic:

https://www.barstoolsports.com/iowa/miley-cyrus-is-fully-embracing-hot-girl-summer

The most downvoted comment, said “6”. which was my first thought.

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So it’s not Photoshop. It’s fat…
😂

And that’s with an F.

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@Sentient
@J

So… re GC .. (FR4#) — All good points, so thank you both. 😊

Key question: Can I retrieve this situ now, or should I let it ride?

@ Sentient

Your guess that she plans to meet one of her BFs for brunch on Saturday is probably on the money.

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Oh you still got this. Put those red pill glasses on and her next pitch is going to look slow and fat.

Those glasses and some game knowledge and you are all set.

In your next interaction just forgo and beta buxy stuff and focus on logistics – time and place and give her the D she was out late at night looking for.

Then take yourself to brunch 😁

If she doesn’t hit you up, hit her up to come over when you have a window.

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@ Sentient

“Oh you still got this. Put those red pill glasses on and her next pitch is going to look slow and fat.

Those glasses and some game knowledge and you are all set.

In your next interaction just forgo and beta buxy stuff and focus on logistics – time and place and give her the D she was out late at night looking for.

Then take yourself to brunch

If she doesn’t hit you up, hit her up to come over when you have a window”

CHECK. 😊

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People buy me/comp me drinks a lot. Last Sat. night a buddy gave me a shot that a waitress had “comped” him when she assumed that he had a tab. He gave me one of the shots. Ex cop and gave me shit about nystagmus cuz I’d had two “boosted” bourbons already. Mom taught me to play dumb and it has never failed. Was on a flight and a female flight attendant comped me some booze. I told her that I had been on the maiden flight of the airline. True story. @ Blax Grandbaby Gamer pointed at me and… Read more »

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@ wahoo McDaniels

FR1#

“Her “Por que?”

Tantum “Estoy muy caliente””

Yes!!

So why weren’t you with @Palmsailor and me last Friday? LOL. 😁

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“I sent a WhatsApp message to the wrong girl and then deleted it. It appears as “message deleted” in her messages.

The girl immediately began madly texting wanting to know what I said and then ended up reconnecting to meet up.

Try it….send a message and then within1 minute delete it. Watch the fireworks”

I really like this — and I have a couple of targets in mind…

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Presumably at no stage did you even attempt to justify the deleted message, but rather brush it aside and go straight for the meet? I ask as a newbie. 😊

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https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCXscPJme6nG7mgFh4vGA-fg?itct=CBkQ6p4EIhMImJrZ7rXg4wIVMwdlCh1nwgFy&csn=8TJCXbDnH4L4j-8Pt_aS0Ao&wlfg=true

Here are some of the Mystery video seminars. Getting hard to find on YouTube. Maybe someone has a torrent site?

Worth watching to get the most out of the book.

Might want to download because they keep getting taken down.

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@Tatum “Presumably at no stage did you even attempt to justify the deleted message, but rather brush it aside and go straight for the meet? I ask as a newbie.” In the accidental case I suggested drinks after the “Was that for me hahaha” and “What did you want to say to me?” i just replied with “oh. let’s meet up. drinks. what’s your sched?” and we’ll be meeting up next week. After I posted this I tried it with a few girls I had lost contact with including the girl I posted about who wished me a Happy Birthday… Read more »

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@ Sentient

Many thanks for the MM video link:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCXscPJme6nG7mgFh4vGA-fg?itct=CBkQ6p4EIhMImJrZ7rXg4wIVMwdlCh1nwgFy&csn=8TJCXbDnH4L4j-8Pt_aS0Ao&wlfg=true

It’s very late here in the UK, but I will take a look first thing in the morning, and download as you suggest.

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@ walawala

Many thanks for the clarification about how to use the deleted text gambit. (I am a Chess player, and am starting to see the analogy between certain types of Chess Openings and Game).

I am really looking forward to trying this out, but need to give it some more time before I do for the two targets I have in mind, both of whom have effectively nexted me for the time being…

“Remember that a girl’s imagination is your best tool in getting her thinking about you.”

I do get this, and have actually managed to put this to the test.

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“(I am a Chess player, and am starting to see the analogy between certain types of Chess Openings and Game).”

Now we are cooking.

Yareally used to say “chess not checkers”…

Go check out his archive as well… Well it’s only some early stuff. You can find the whole tging with wayback.

Yareallyarchive.com

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@Tantum Context is everything. If they nexted you because of a lack of attraction, this won’t work. If they nexted you because you wouldn’t be their bf or if you banged them already, then i’d recommend this. The other girl I tried this on actually gave me the idea for it by doing it to me. So I did it back to her a week later. No response. The overall goal is to spin plates and have a few on the go. Girls in their 20’s are prioncesses used to soy boys chasing them. You have to find a way… Read more »

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@Tantum – also you need some practice at text game generally. It’s not really one specific mistake (or rather it’s lots of minor ones that add up), more that overall you’re chasing her too much and giving her too much validation. You need to text less, compliment less, focus more on emotional spikes and let her chase you. YaReally’s text game advice is still the best going – lots on it in the YaReally Archive. PSA to everyone: The Book of YaReally PDF can be downloaded at the link below. Much faster than reading the website on the Internet Archive.… Read more »

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