Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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“Her: Why? [non compliance: didn’t answer my question]
You: because you’re literally like the 4th girl I’ve seen in the past hour or so, wearing that exact dress. So I was wondering if ya’ll part of some cultish secret society shit or something [tease]”

you followed an IOD with a DHV…just like the MM loop

a tease is a DHV because:

1) it’s inherently judgmental, which means that you assume higher status
2) it’s inherently engaging, which means that you assume a right to intimacy

J, you’re just following the loop without realizing it

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I’ll point you back to the book J.

Cause this…

“[Open from the side]

You: Excuse me where did you get that dress? [investment hoop]”

Is straight Mystery indirect opener. Not an investment hoop. Lol.

So go to chapter one and watch Mystery

A) open from the side (and body rock)
B) throw aFalse time constraint
“Hey. One sec. I have to get back to my friends”
C) open ” so answer a question for me, who lies more, guys or girls”?

MM 101. Maybe try Audible…

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“open ” so answer a question for me, who lies more, guys or girls””

I don’t do cringy 2003 pickup lines. But thanks.

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But yeah. I know what an indirect opener is, brah. I’ve been doing pickup for a couple years now if ya didn’t know.

The reason I called it an investment loop is because I’m asking for compliance. Straight from the open. She can either comply with my question or not.

Same with the “who lies more” opener. She either doesn’t comply (“I don’t care”/”is that your best pickup line?”) in which case I’d IOD (tease/cold read) or complies, in which case I’d continue my routine.

If she complies, do X (reward/compliance test/explore topic).

If she doesn’t comply, do Y (tease/disqualify/takeaway/sexually misinterpret).

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@Sentient – yes, it’s an interesting train of thought. Kind of thing that could be made into a blog post. I don’t want to read too much into it, but definite difference in how I perceive skill development and “feeling” how I access the right state of mind. I was a typical nerd in school – the most exercise I got was getting my ass off the computer and walking downstairs to eat. Certainly I’ve learnt skills, both then and as an adult, but all related to abstract thought, nothing physical (except sex I suppose but even there you’ve told… Read more »

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Culum, “But really, it’s the same in pickup and Game – what I’m really striving for is to reach that “feeling” – that feeling of kind of calm authority, of being centred and at peace with the girl (and indeed the men around too), reacting to me, of being the cause, and enjoying being authentically me in full flow. I’m even struggling to find the words to articulate it but you guys know what I mean – it happens in the best moments. And what if the best way to get there is explicitly to follow that “feeling” and try… Read more »

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@j
I left a comment on this page a which is a few posts above now with my situation. Could you please help me?

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FR Went out last night. Opened a 2-set. Asked who they were. Started teasing one of the girls about her posh accent and stuff. Cold read them about their jobs and we had a fun little convo. We wanted to go too a different bar and they wanted to stay so I said ‘maybe i’ll bump into you later’ and left. I then get a text from the girl I cold approached 3 weeks back who I kissed : https://imgur.com/a/y0USjdZ I’m trying to arrange to meet her as I really wanna bang her, but it’s hard and she’s messing me… Read more »

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@Palma Went out on a usual gig on my own last night despite not feeling like it. Props. I need a strategy for dealing with that but I can’t work one out because I rely on talking to them and the venues just get louder as the night goes on. If you want P in V compliance, start small first. See if you can isolate from the group. Just turn her away from them. Then move her to another part of the bar. Then outside etc. If you haven’t unlocked/addressed something, she’ll let you know (=objections). Figuring our her logistics… Read more »

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Triple digit club

https://imgur.com/a/iGICqFE

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“I used to do direct London style daygame and hardly any sets would hook. Now, I am picking only lone stationary girls like Bacchus advises and have an almost 50 percent hook rate.”

Nice bro. Glad SMMA’s having a positive impact on your game.

“I approach far less, sometimes in a two hour daygame session, I approach just 4 women. Is that okay?”

yeah you good. Bacchus has said that sometimes, he’ll only approach 1-2 girls per session. Due to his standards being ridiculously high lol.

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That doesn’t look like much fun.😐

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FR I went to an out of town bar Fri. night. Lots of people. Women don’t grind on each other. Not much hip hop and girls aren’t as drunk as my hometown bar. A mountain of a guy out with his family opened me about what I would do with the pretty young girls in front of us. He’s drunk and fun. I chat with him and meet his family and dance with a couple of the girls. Fun time. I chat a bit with a waitress and she’s looking for sympathy because of her shitty life. It’s a shit… Read more »

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“yeah you good. Bacchus has said that sometimes, he’ll only approach 1-2 girls per session. Due to his standards being ridiculously high lol.”

yeah, couldn’t be because he has low energy, low T, and shitty game

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@theasdgamer

https://imgur.com/a/UHhbAy7

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Blax

Triple Digit Club may mean thrusts per minute.

Palma

Can’t make the covert overt. You know they aren’t getting the sex they want, you “just get it”. Now just add secret society judiciousness to the social setting. Get the number for a plausible reason other than banging, away from her friends viewing.

And wings suck.

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😂 that looks like ” nothing better to do ” sex. Technically, it is ” sex ” because P in V, but if I had to choose between that and watching the gane, the game would probably win.

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It was the 4th fuck session. I was pretty exhausted by then. and wanted to fuck her one last time before she left. figured i’d take a short video with my phone for ego lol.

I could upload the entire 3 hour clip if ya’ll want tho.

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@ j Thank you. But I feel sometimes, I will not improve quickly, if I just approach so few women. And you also mention that you are in a group, where the veterans who are purely interested in Game exchange ideas and posts. Can I have access to that group? Or view the posts? I really get lost on these Redpill spaces where people talk about feminism and other gender issues. I have read the Rational Male thoroughly, I understand what I should not do to fuck up my life. But I want to use this knowledge to build an… Read more »

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That Bacchus girl is indeed flames, but it’s nothing to do with his cheesy ass NLP lol. (some of his FR’s I read made me cringe so hard. Not gonna lie)
Dudes a male model. She opened HIM! (as is the case in basically every LR I’ve ever read of his)
You really can’t fail when a girl thinks you’re very handsome, and that’s his secret. Fair play, though. I think she’s very pretty

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Nah, that’s okay.

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@gamenoob “I feel sometimes, I will not improve quickly, if I just approach so few women”. “And you also mention that you are in a group, where the veterans who are purely interested in Game exchange ideas and posts.” Yeah, its a small private facebook group chat. I was invited because of my posts and lay reports I wrote on sedfast. If you post a couple good FRs/LRs on here or on the GirlsChase forum, then I’ll rep you, and let them know, you wanna join. (Can’t add you myself, cause I’m not an admin). Don’t know when the new… Read more »

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Gamenoob what I’m going to say isn’t popular. Zero fucks…😁 It’s not wise to make ” banging beautiful women ” a life goal. Men should bang women, as ” beautiful ” as they have access to and can manage, but what you have to understand is the ” why ” of the thing. Is ” beautiful ” by your own standards? How does banging beautiful women actually enhance your life – long term? Faster way to understanding is to ” bang ” women. Very few people take their driving test in Ferraris or buggatis. I’d wager that 99% of guys… Read more »

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Gamenoob what I’m going to say isn’t popular. Zero fucks…😁 It’s not wise to make ” banging beautiful women ” a life goal. Men should bang women, as ” beautiful ” as they have access to and can manage, but what you have to understand is the ” why ” of the thing. Is ” beautiful ” by your own standards? How does banging beautiful women actually enhance your life – long term? Faster way to understanding is to ” bang ” women. Very few people take their driving test in Ferraris or buggatis. I’d water that 99% of guys… Read more »

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@Blaximus You are dropping some gold wisdom on these guys, but they just don’t get it(yet). When you are spending a lot of time and energy on something the first question you need to ask is the , “Why”? If some of these guys just slowed down and thought about the why and were honest with themselves they could start inching towards their actual real goal which is most likely the inner calm/certainty most of them are seeking, that goal in all actuality has almost zero to do with women. Some of these guys are postponing some very real life… Read more »

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@ Blaximus Okay. Maybe I was not clear. By beautiful I mean the woman who I look at and go, I would love to do her. I already get women, but they are not the ones I choose. They choose me. I want to choose the women I want. And no, I am not delusional. I am not looking to bang models. I call myself a Gamenoob because I know I am a newbie. The beautiful women I am talking about are everyday women I see in the mall, on the street, in bus stops etc.What you said makes no… Read more »

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@foxguy I am really sick of this manosphere thing where people are shamed for trying to learn Game. What makes you think we are concentrating only on women?? Just because we want to get good at it. What is the use of all this if we don’t take action. One of the fundamental things the sphere is built on and what Rollo emphasizes also, us to learn Game. And I am doing that. Just because we have the drive to get good at Game does not mean we are defective. That’s why I would rather talk to on a forum… Read more »

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@Gamenoob92 Let’s give this a shot, if not for your benefit than for the benefit of others. First, it’s good you are asking questions, this is a start, second once you gain true wisdom you will find you will stop asking questions to others and will only ask most questions to yourself, you will become your own true mental point of origin. What is it you want? Not what the Manosphere says you should want ,or what Foxguy says you should want, or Rollo or anybody but yourself. Ask yourself what you yourself really really want out of this life,… Read more »

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@IAS Okay, so re ETH and BTC, it really all depends on what your investing timeframe is. In the short term (days/weeks/months) nobody knows what is going to happen. Especially with the volatility in this market. There are lots of narratives (market took off in June because of Facebook’s Libra, BTC is improving now because Chinese are piling into Bitcoin to get out of the yuan, fears of trade war turning into a quasi-gold asset etc) and they are probably true to varying degrees, but the market is still very immature and unregulated and easy to manipulate so never take… Read more »

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@Palma

I know you know but worth repeating:

Going with or leading her out has a higher probability of success than telling her to admit she wants your D, yes.

😉

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@ J

Thanks a ton! The Todd video was great. Realistic and sustainable process to get good at Game.
Sure. I have a field report I wanted you to critique but they are basic ones, since I am still a newbie and they are not lay reports.

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@Gamenoob92 – post ’em and we’ll critique ’em and if you follow the advice and keep going out you’ll have to change your username pretty soon. I have my disagreements with @j on various issues to do with broader mindset (you’ve seen some of our disagreements right in the last couple of pages of this thread) but he’s very good on basic PUA stuff that you’re trying to learn and the specifics (and Todd’s videos are generally great – he’s one of my favourite PUAs). If you’ve not read YaReally’s stuff, you really need to do so stat. Single best… Read more »

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Gamenoob ” I am really sick of this manosphere thing where people are shamed for trying to learn Game. What makes you think we are concentrating only on women?? Just because we want to get good at it. What is the use of all this if we don’t take action. One of the fundamental things the sphere is built on and what Rollo emphasizes also, us to learn Game. And I am doing that. Just because we have the drive to get good at Game does not mean we are defective. That’s why I would rather talk to on a… Read more »

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Palma Lol. I try not to talk about my ” N ” count ( I didn’t know what an N was either until I started reading the comments here ) because it’s mostly inconsequential at the end of the day. The only reason I have an idea is because my 1st wife ( and second, but I didn’t answer her question ) asked me, because she’d known me since I was 15 or so, and she’d known firsthand that I was knocking chicks back, including many of her friends and neighbors. She popped that question after seeing my high school… Read more »

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@foxguy Yes, lets do this. Till my patience runs out at least. “First, it’s good you are asking questions, this is a start, second once you gain true wisdom you will find you will stop asking questions to others and will only ask most questions to yourself, you will become your own true mental point of origin.” This is ridiculous shit! What does mental point of origin have to do with a newbie at Game asking a more experienced person about something. So the beginner who asks an advance tennis player for tips is not his own mental point of… Read more »

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@ Blaximus I took exception to foxguy for what he wrote about us not being ourselves for looking to improve. We are considered as people “obsessed with women”. As far as your post was concerned, I was just clarifying that I am not making learning Game my only goal in life. I listed the other things I am doing and that I do not have unrealistic expectations about wanting to bang models. It is just that I have different people that I ask questions about on my fitness goals, different people I consult for my language learning skills and I… Read more »

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@foxguy

What is a man being led to willingly betray in your hypothetical scenario?

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@palmasailor ”ford -Looks like you’ve got tighter game than me rude boy” ha, I doubt it. We just kind of clicked and I could sense attraction from her fairly early on, so it was more about just not messing it up (which is probably easier said that done, depending on just how attracted to you she is) She was quite hot, but there were definitely hotter girls in the club who I wanted more but who weren’t interested in me lol Going to Prague on Wednesday for a few days so hopefuly gonna get the chance to hit on some… Read more »

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Gamenoob Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in ” This is ridiculous shit! What does mental point of origin have to do with a newbie at Game asking a more experienced person about something. So the beginner who asks an advance tennis player for tips is not his own mental point of origin? Wtf? Shows you have misinterpreted what mental point of origin is. Secondly, you talk about after I get true wisdom I will not ask questions to others. And how do I get true wisdom? By posting on manosphere forums without doing anything… Read more »

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Gamenood

…. I’m starting to like you though. You’re like a blank canvas somebody spilled some paint on.

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Palma

Have fun man.

I’m not a big porn guy, so what J posted didn’t stick to my neurons very long before being replaced by a chorus of cicadas in my backyard.

I get why he posted it though, because he feels good.

Lol, I don’t think I’ve had ” sex ” like that since the 70’s though.

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“and so I had to get out of bed, get dressed and walk to the pub at the end of my road for a double”

Let’s fucking go palma 🔥🔥🔥

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@palmasailor My question was directed only at J or the few who actually talk about Game here. It was phrased in a very adult manner and he answered me. I did not intend to get into any discussion about ideologies and life priorites. It is the others who jumped in. I am just a guy looking for advice on Game and j has helped a lot on that. Culum also pitched in on that. I do not understand why you guys are even bothering to butt in. Feel free to ignore me and my “misdirected” efforts to learn Game as… Read more »

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Gamenoob

Cool.

I’ll spare you then.

Good luck out there in the real world.

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Funny.

I am talking about Game but a ” noob ” tells me to spare him. Lol.

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“I’m not a big porn guy”

midgets are cool

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“My question was directed only at J or the few who actually talk about Game here.”

Lol, J’s real handle is Dumpster. Finding women to bang is easy. Not being insecure isn’t.

“Oh, I must be so awesome because a woman let me rawdoggg her…” Pedestalizing women you bang.

“I gave a woman Chlamydia…” Wtf were you doing rawdogging a woman with Chlamydia? Don’t you value your d1ck at all????

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“I don’t do cringy 2003 pickup lines.”

Cool that you keep your cringy pickup lines up to date.

ta-dum

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Culum I’ve been thinking about this since you wrote it. ” Especially for someone like me who specializes in overanalysis and “word salads” (you guys have been reading my FRs for years right?), but is now invested in full-time physical training and realizing that words are of limited use in describing the experiences I’m having and the skills I’m learning (the words just don’t convey enough information and can even actively confuse – I have to learn to “feel” something and then if I get the feeling – and therefore the associated skill – correct, I have to be able… Read more »

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Yollo, “What is a man being led to willingly betray in your hypothetical scenario?” Anytime he fundamentally presents himself as someone he is not, “I’m a dynamic go getter, who owns a multi-hundred million dollar company” when he doesn’t. I’m not saying it’s wrong to lie to the girl per se I actually care little about the woman. I care about the damage it does to the guy because that type of misrepresentation will come back to haunt the guy in the long run sometimes spectacularly because it’s a tradeoff for only pleasure, in other words it’s a trade a… Read more »

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@Sentient: about the pattern recognition thing… You don’t have to be a scientist to think scientifically. And you certainly don’t have to be an academic to do, nowadays with the current environment in Academia, being an academic may actually anti-correlate with scientific-thinking in some fields of research.
@Rollo has excellent pattern recognition skills, and is clearly a scientist by any decent definition of the word (as @kfg might say).
Much more so than many “professional” researchers in psychology that are academics

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@Blax: as far as I’m concerned, a bit of high frequency pounding Doggy style feels nice to me and 2/3 girls enjoy it a lot (LOL at my N=3 statistics). @Culum: thanks for the added insight. I mentioned before I’m very “buy and hold” so there we go. I probably won’t reinforce my poistions (or won’t very much) as I want to invest more in the “business” that Palma mentions. @J: obviously the pr0n was a bit of (not so) “humble”-bragging and you are getting rightfully blasted for it, although I don’t quite get the “AMOG” bit here about the… Read more »

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@Foxguy – girls aren’t my top priority anymore. They (or rather learning Game) was, for a long time – I made huge improvements over years doing that, but eventually I hit certain mindset limitations that are not learning more techniques. That’s why I am basically not Gaming this year (maybe do a bit on holiday or something) and I’m focussing on intense physical developments, which is offering surprising mindset benefits in itself. But that’s a good way to look at what I’m trying to do – to be free of fear, and external constraints. @Blax – lots of thoughts triggered… Read more »

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@palmasailor @Blaximus @ Culum @Foxguy Palmasailor and Blaximus, I understand you guys have lived different lives from my own and of people who are looking to improve with Game. Like Culum says if you were naturals, from when you were young, you do not understand where I am coming from. Yes, I know women and bedding them are not the key to happiness. I know people who have obsessed over it have regretted it later. And yes, I have read Roosh’s Game, actually read some parts over and over. He clearly mentions that Game is something he thinks everyone should… Read more »

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Yareally didn’t leave because he was criticized. He stepped too far out of what he knew and didn’t like what he was hearing. The blows came in pretty rapid succession. First, Rollo deleted so rsd videos because he didn’t want the guys that were sniping at him having a shitload of videos on his site. Then there were the ” marriage debates ” where he’d made disparaging comments about men’s wives, strictly to put on a show for ” the newbs “. Then the final straw was the ” having kids while avoiding courts and still gaming chicks ” fiasco.… Read more »

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@PalmaSailor ”Yer you’re over cooking it on round one without closing it so they think it’s gonna be direct to the mattress the minute you meet them again.. so ASD kicks in turbonutter mode and she shuts up shop so you cant spike her again.” Yeah, I think there is definitely an element of that! Good point. I hadn’t really considered that a lot of it could be down to her and just decided it was that I’m bad at 2nd meets (which I am, but that helps me understand one possible element of it) I get this quite a… Read more »

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Oh, I’m definitely going! It’s all booked and sorted. Packing later on when I get home from loading lorries!! smile
Luckily lots of my friends are loaded, so i’ll be OK if they decide to do any expensive things during the trip! haha

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@Blaximus Palmasailor

The fact that his archive and book are still always referred to shows he knew what he was talking about when it came to Game.

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@Game

Stick around, something about the style/structure of your writings leads me to believe you may have a shot at having a decent head on your shoulders. Stick around, explore girls all you want, lot of hustlers in the red pill mostly all hustle with the exception of Rollo, Ryan, and Carl these days so keep your eyes/mind sharp.

Guy don’t step on the lot unless he wants to buy.

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@Culum Even opening – the times I completely nailed opening were when I focussed on repetition – like during HABD’s 400 Open challenge and a few other smaller scale versions in clubs (and I remember HABD kept asking if I’d reached “the feeling” yet – the feeling of it all becoming routine and a bit boring to go and open another girl, ho-hum – which I did, right at the end of the challenge, but I’ve struggled to recapture that feeling consistently – which is actually very similar to my physical training – first I can’t do something at all.… Read more »

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@Culum Struan I hear you brother, you are on the path. If you haven’t already you may need a transition/forging challenge in your life that will prove to yourself that you fully belong in man land, unfortunately this can’t be gained via women. Something like go into the woods for a week or so with minimal provisions and survive off the land, go to an agricultural field and work for a month with migrant workers doing backbreaking manual jobs, it has to be physical and it has to push you to your breaking point. The purpose of this is two… Read more »

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Gamenoob See, this is what’s so frustrating. Nobody ever said YareAlly didn’t know what he was talking about wrt pua. Over years he was pressed for more details about his experiences, and the closest I recall was him saying 1) he was in a relationship that didn’t work out – ” relationship ” defined as sitting on couch watching Netflix in worn out underwear, 2) he believed everyone kids to him growing up. That’s pretty much it. But outside of pua, he didn’t seen to know very much else, or have decent experiences – this came through in his own… Read more »

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@j VERY helpful link to Teevester’s tactics on sexualisation: “Or another innovation: Sex Talk. Invented by Teevster https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/321180-my-dream-verbal-stack” Have recently had a few messaging exchanges with some 20-somethings – although I lack text game to close a meet, despite coming close a couple of times (they both flaked at the last minute). That said, I do get the value of not just talking a good game, but in walking a good game. Eg, in my early days with Babushka, I would tell her how I was going to make her cum … and then do so in the exact manner… Read more »

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@Calum Struan “I will leave you with a martial arts analogy. What you are saying is kind of like someone saying “All this martial arts stuff is nonsense bro – just have big muscles and be aggressive and hit first in a fight and you’ll win”. And the thing is, being big and aggressive IS helpful and you will win most fights – until you come across someone who is a trained fighter who is just better than you and you’ll be flat on your back (or worse) no matter how aggressive and how big you are, and then you… Read more »

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@Palma Culum Blaximus Foxguy Okay. Let me give you my perspective and what has happened to me in my life. Before discovering pickup/Game I thought I was a shy person, introverted and not really social. That was the story I had told myself all my life. After I discovered Game they said you have to become social and a good conversationalist to get girls. Pussy was the motivator so I forced myself to socialize, and after a few months I discovered I love to socialize and that I am not really shy, now it is something that brings me joy… Read more »

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@ Palmasailor @Sentient “Tantum and I are going to hit town more and put it through the paces by the numbers. Our logistics don’t mesh so that’s a pain in the arse but I need the disciple of being reported back on to you mugs. Need to be able to show my face without hanging my head in shame” Looking forward to it, Palma – and you know that I have absolutely NO fear of falling flat on my arse – that’s my only saving grace at the moment. As for ‘hanging your head in shame’ – not at all;… Read more »

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@Tantum Ergo – thanks! On 20s girls flaking – especially (but not only) because you met them online – it’s normal. Don’t think of it as a mistake you did. You can only risk-mitigate (stuff like never booking anything more than 1 day in advance, and ideally the same day..always having a backup plan etc). I seem to say this in every post, but YaReally had a lot of stuff on text game and mitigating flaking both – worth reading. @Palma – no, the martial arts analogy works for pickup. It’s not sticking a picture of Bruce Lee on your… Read more »

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Seduction is defined in the Cambridge English Dictionary, as the act of persuading someone to have sex with you. I am a Pickup artist. And so, when I go about this timeless art of persuading someone to have sex with you, there are a list of dos and do nots I engage in. I do NOT lie to women, that I’m interested in seducing, that I will become their boyfriend, if they’d sleep with me first. I do NOT promise them a starring role in my upcoming film or tempt her with a job promotion, if she’ll get down on… Read more »

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@ Blaximus “It goes back to the idea of Yin and Yang. It’s important to have a rational, reasonable,reality based understanding of life and things, but it is of equal importance to understand and develop feelings. One without the other is a state of imbalance, and in imbalance there can’t be lasting internal peace or confidence or freedom.” Yin and Yang or as the old Japanese masters put it, ‘In-Yo’ – ‘Breathing in and out; Active and Passive’. This is the perception, wisdom and understanding of Zen – the way that the Warriors of old lived their lives. This is… Read more »

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“same with girls… bc game is just the martial art of intersexual dynamics…lol… but not kidding…”

So … proficiency in one area (Martial Arts) ought to convey some transferable skills into the other (‘the Venusian Arts’ – as MM puts it).

Needing to make the transition.

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@Palmasailor I get you … “Yes, but I’m martial arts you become that man. You are capable of delivering those moves.” Yes, you do, and yes I am – through years of training, developing technique and overcoming the fear of being hit – which is always an occupational hazard of training which reduces over time and with practice at the threshold of one’s capability. “It’s not a life size photo of Bruce Lee stuck on to Harry Hills body that you are using to fool your opposition.” Indeed – and no-one will buy it. Women can smell a fake in… Read more »

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@Culum Struan “On 20s girls flaking – especially (but not only) because you met them online – it’s normal. Don’t think of it as a mistake you did. You can only risk-mitigate (stuff like never booking anything more than 1 day in advance, and ideally the same day..always having a backup plan etc). I seem to say this in every post, but YaReally had a lot of stuff on text game and mitigating flaking both – worth reading.” I think that you have already steered me in the direction of YaReally’s text game, and that you sent me a link,… Read more »

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:: Abortive / Potential FR – Saturday Night (10th August 2019) :: First up, this isn’t really a Field Report, but, I think that I had a v e r y narrow window as a a result of an IOI, which, had I captitalised on, might have been interesting … @Palmasailor already knows the details. Here goes: Was having a beer on Saturday night in a local bar near to where I live. A young couple came in (white Beta BF with ‘on-trend’ beard and slim Indian / Asian GF). When he went up to the bar to order her… Read more »

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Palmasailor He’s in North Korea – inaccessible behind enemy lines with Stockholm Syndrome. That’s where it is and I need a life as well. If he emerges in here and I’ve told him that. But he has to emerge. This story is familiar to me. You can’t know how much of that brainwashing is sticking, and how much of it is “I see 4 lights” blather to keep her off of his case. You remember being his age, right? Sometimes it was like being a spy undercover in some dictatorship. One thing that might just happen: he gets out of… Read more »

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habd on guard-dog-spinup other dudes out in the world end up in various flavors of dead…lol… but not kidding… One of those in my area a few years back. In an upscale housing area. Textbook – loud arguments from time to time, lovey dovey makup. Then one night she called an ambulance. He was bleeding out from the torso, still trying to cover for her by lying to the EMT’s, something about “ran into a …”. The blue pill will kill a man. She was a little clever; the cops never found whatever it was she stabbed him with. She… Read more »

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We all left the bar at the same time and on the walk I spoke to her about her university course and tried to lead the convo in a slightly more man-to-woman topics and she told me the guys her age don’t every approach her

That hunger is real. A man with clear vision can see it just about everywhere.

Time for this vid again. Entertaining and instructive.

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@Gamenoob92 Just post an FR and you’ll get feedback on your sticking points. You’ll see if you’re ready for some 🔥🔥🔥 to get better. @TantumErgo When he went up to the bar to order her a cocktail, she did a 180-degree turn to look at me (my back was to her) and then flashed a smile at me (clearly an IOI). Had half-a-mind to get her number while the BF was at the bar, but didn’t move fast enough While going for the number after her just flashing a smile at you on her date(?) is not optimal (what had… Read more »

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@Palmsailor Palma “PS: (in packed carriage) “what shall I carry, I could steal your daughter and sell her body for medical science or take your luggage and rummage through your underwear?” – eye contact… and she flicks hair looks at ground.” “She mumbles that she hasn’t had any interesting underwear for some time, and her eyes flirt back and forth to mine while I’m smiling and so is she.” So she responded to your classic piss-taking humour with a not so tacit admission that she isn’t getting any good sex (if at all) plus the hair-preening. Strong IOIs = 1… Read more »

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@IRL << When he went up to the bar to order her a cocktail, she did a 180-degree turn to look at me (my back was to her) and then flashed a smile at me (clearly an IOI). Had half-a-mind to get her number while the BF was at the bar, but didn’t move fast enough >> “While going for the number after her just flashing a smile at you on her date(?) is not optimal (what had she done to earn your interest?), I’m all for making a move and doing whatever comes to mind. You can’t get better… Read more »

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Hello everyone. My name is David and I am new here. I was referred The Rational Male to me by a close friend after experiencing a bit of sexual frustration and dissatisfaction in how my 3 year long relationship was playing out. I am almost done with the first book, and I have been reading the blog more lately, and it definitely speaks to me a lot. I am 17, and I will be a senior in High school and turn 18 soon. My girlfriend is a younger senior and just turned 17. Essentially what this issue I am experiencing… Read more »

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And thank you all for your help with this it is greatly appreciated. I look forward to learning more and using this knowledge to better my life.

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Somewhat of a PSA, after reading the past few pages, especially for the newbies and lurkers: Just post Field Reports if you want help. If you just post a FR, and ask for help, you’ll get it. I’ve never seen anyone here get bushwhacked for posting a strict FR and asking for advice. Your only goal in life could be to bang as many women as possible and you don’t even care if you end up homeless and drunk and shooting heroin behind a dumpster somewhere, but if you just share the FR and ask for advice, pretty much 100%… Read more »

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On a lighter note:

Fucking lol’d at J giving the thumbs up at the end of the video of him banging that chick. I watched it along with this playing in the background. If you time it right, right when he gives the thumbs up, it goes, “Mentos: the freshmaker!”

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@Softek +1 😊 Thoughtful and considered post with some good analogies and examples on what it means to communicate in a masculine frame. I deal with a lot of young men and women (late 20s / early 30s) in my line of work, and, while I expect the women to ramble on in their comminications, most of the young men do so as well, because nobody ever taught them how to get to the point, construct an argument, and be assertive in the way they express themselves; this is a hallmark in the way men communicate. Most of the young… Read more »

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Also on a lighter note, and because some of us here obsess a bit about this kind of thing (you know who you are), when I saw this comic today I thought of you!

http://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/bigolstf.png?t=82BB0D

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Welcome David. Break it off. You’ve started the relationship on the wrong foot and only with enormous amounts of recalibration could you reestablish yourself as Alpha. You’ve got physical and intellectual chops. That’s the basis for physical desire. That don’t mean shit after at this point. You’ve set a standard of equality in fact she will not relinquish. She’ll accept your Alpha only after you leave her…and for a year or five. Perhaps you can bang her at your 5 or 10 yr reunion in a better frame and make it go then. If you break it off quick and… Read more »

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@DavidF170 / youngshagger You’re cruising in the right direction but still asking wrong questions (that’s ok, part of the process). Look, it’s not about her and it’s not about saving this LTR. It’s about you and your personal journey. Which may be without her and you need to be ready to accept it. I could say it’s possible to turn it around. At the same time being with just this one girl (soon in a Long Distance Relationship) will just delay inevitable: discovering of what you’re capable of and what you really want in life. Because you’ll try to accommodate… Read more »

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Some great stuff going on… IRL – Never forget the meatballs!!! lol http://www.emikodavies.com/blog/nonna-annas-polpette/ But man that Blax stuff is really HoF / sidebar worthy… Good stuff Blax… Softek In a very weird way it’s like I went through a long rite of passage in my mid 20’s. Maybe in some tribal society or a masculine urban society I woulda gone through that in childhood. But here we are. Exactly this. Masculine development REQUIRES this kind of passage and development. And btw you can get it as a MC suburban kid as well… so get after it. And consider this, if… Read more »

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Blax overworks it for young guys. They don’t connect to him as well as her like as lecturing the masses dilutes the meaning.

Speaking of meaninglessness, Blax recommends that young men have enough pointless sex until sex itself becomes pointless. Then, young men should search for meaning in sex.

Huh?

Anyone here see a downside to that?

Anyone?

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@Palmasailor sounds like you’ve got it sorted… and props on that!!!!… just have to run out the clock… a couple points that i saw… Firstly this has only been a relatively recent “glitch on the Matrix” until about 9 months ago we had a very good close relationship. Because of that she’s having to pull out all the stops and use all possible propaganda, and a lot of this will be obvious to him. and Before it kicked off I had sent him various snippets on women and game. We were out somewhere and a woman was bitching her man… Read more »

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@HABD

“same with girls… bc game is just the martial art of intersexual dynamics…lol… but not kidding…”

So … proficiency in one area (Martial Arts) ought to convey some transferable skills into the other (‘the Venusian Arts’ – as MM puts it).

Needing to make the transition.

yep… just different forms of blocking/punching/positioning/etc…lol…

good luck!

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Tantum / IRL IRL is opening your eyes Tantum to “the game”… this isn’t really a Field Report, Well every observation from The Field is a FR… Don’t discount the dozens of short little daily interactions, you can learn from all of them. First you learn by spotting them in real time, then you learn by going through the process to wherever it leads. The more, the more learning potential. Was having a beer on Saturday night in a local bar near to where I live. A young couple came in (white Beta BF with ‘on-trend’ beard and slim Indian… Read more »

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David, Imagine yourself with the same situation when you are 27 years old. Or 37. It’s enough to make a guy puke. You must realize the opportunity you have next fall when you go to college. A whole new adventure. And wrestling is a microcosm of masculinity. Isn’t it? One of the most important thing in wrestling is individual excellence, but also team cohesiveness. Team cohesiveness in terms of a tribe competing against other tribes. A brotherhood. Do what you want with this girl during high school, but don’t be a fool and thing she is of any value to… Read more »

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😂😂😂😂😂

Dogfish!!!!!!!!!

😂😂😂😂😂

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“dogfish”…

lol… that was great!!!

i believe the ‘sphere just got a new label/definition…lol

good luck!

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Sentient Dudes get touchy if they get ” critiqued ” because all that matters is putting penis in vagina, period, but imo that kind of ” sex ” is like servicing a chick. It was either you or a dildo. Considering female anatomy ( nerve concentrations and all ) I can’t see how it’s possible that a chick in doggie, which is the deepest penetration, could just be casually hanging out while getting thrusted. ” Doggie ” is supposed to be an ” oh shit!!! ” moment for her, not an ” okay, I’m going to do this ” type… Read more »

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“her phone was right there, at least she wasn’t actually on it” After our third session. Her friend facetimed her from Uber. She had just left, some dudes place and refused to fuck him because he had a small dick. Once she saw it, she said “she’s not that type of girl” and we laughed about it. Things got sexual, then I started escalating, and began fucking her. I had mentioned how I have this fetish for fucking girls while they’re talking on the phone. Might upload the clip about us laughing about it when, when I get home. Very… Read more »

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“imo that kind of ” sex ” is like servicing a chick. It was either you or a dildo”

lol y’all real tempting me to post that 3 hour clip

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Is that an avatar of you about to mount a cake?

I have this fetish for fucking girls while they’re talking on the phone.

Well don’t be a piker, try giving her a book next time then… Maybe an iced tea on the side table. lol Sounds like some hot sex.

There is some strange fetish porn where chicks are on their computers and stuff, oblivious to whatever the guy is doing. And this is “validating” to guys? Strange times.

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Palma

“He plays hockey…”

Nuff said right there. All will be well.

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