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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
16 days ago

@Sentient

Just looked at the comments and this one stood out:

Shannon Mitchell
2 years ago
Me too,it was once and a life time passion when I was in my early twenties with an older man.If only to have that again. I did anything and everything to feel that euphoria and still long for it now.

NNN1
NNN1
14 days ago

Chat report with the girl I banged on Sunday According to her period tracing app, her menstruation is scheduled Monday to Wednesday. On Sunday we scheduled to meet again on Friday. Gonna reiterate the chat history from then on: Sunday: Her (20:07): So how was your remaining day? Have you read this paper? //Told her I should read that paper for university. Me 21:43: Hi, the paper sounds quite interesting – didn’t finish reading it ’cause I had to go downtwn. Me 21:43: Send a picture tomorrow morning, I wanna know wether that dark bags under your eyes are still… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
14 days ago

Palma Yet no one wants to believe it 😉 How is lil Palma coming along? NNN1 Selfish girl – perfect! It was a fitness test and you knuckles her under by doing nothing. There’s the lesson. Now doing nothing may not be optimal all the time, but it does remove over game faults. Here – now that she has complied Mystery would say offer IOA, reward her. Couple of ways to go – 1.Ignore selfie but reach out and make a date with her. Expect shit test on selfish, just be like “yeah. I’ll take one of you here and… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
14 days ago

@Sentient, Thanks!

I just texted her (remember her “We can meet up on Friday, but I’ll still menstruate there”):
You won’t escape so easy, little girl.
Friday afternoon / evening is fixed.

And she agreed on that, so I guess it’ll work well.

Gonna go for a short bike tour now and think about what else I could’ve gone with / go with in the future as a response.

Sentient
Sentient
14 days ago

NNN1 Ha. You are entering a phase, quickly, where overgamimg can become an issue. Probably have to just go through it. However – watching what they do vs what they say, should guide you. No need to rip defeat from the jaws of victory. Start to think that YOU are enough and when that mindset is firm, you will begin to act with fluidity and ease and avoid thinking too much about game. Remember – backward plan from sex, sex location. Everything else is then just a>b>c>d process steps. Here, objective was overcome fitness test, steal the frame, make her… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
13 days ago
Sentient
Sentient
13 days ago

lazer wolf eyes

How was that opener? “every time I see you you’re buying chickens”…

Openers don’t matter

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
13 days ago

@Sentient

How is lil Palma coming along?

He’s kicking a lot. T-37 days and counting…

Time flies..

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
13 days ago

@NNN1 She is on the back foot now, and you could over game. AND ignoring shit tests, which is actually what being a bit aloof (amused mastery) unwittingly achieves isn’t a bad default setting. Assuming you’re owning her in bed (and at N=2 – with all respect, you won’t be yet) then apart from increasingly infrequent shit tests (fitness tests) the only thing you need to look out for is the guard dog spinning up… In terms of owning her in bed, don’t worry about breaking her. In conventional sex, they can take it as hard (if not harder) than… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
12 days ago

Barn report: This Thursday I hit the party barn again. This time again with a girl from the social circle of the girl I’m banging now. Let’s call her K fur this text. And her Homie, the gay dude from last Thursday. We went in there around nine (I guess) and in the queue I opened the first set, just to get a bit more social (asked them over their shoulder wether they’d know this theater piece I just told my new friends here about). Last time I realized (and of course read it in the MM as well) that… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
12 days ago

NnN1 Well that’s progress. Not a pull though, but progress. But no cofveve for you. You still aren’t being “ruthless”, and that is interfering with your success, and giving you false positives, which is going to retard your development. Not saying you aren’t having fun etc. Just that if you want to “pull” and pull consistently, where “pull” means pebis in vagina, you’re going to have to stop fucking around and get ruthless… Backward plan from sex location, logistics, actions moving things toward the result you want. Not fluffing around, having a lark, “better luck next time” and “well I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
11 days ago

@Sentient I tried to poast this to Carlos but it’s in Moderation and prob. Won’t make it past the delete key.. Carlos – Sentient mentioned you checked in so I thought I’d update you and Old Friend.. Pleased to report that J Dubya is kicking and due to arrive soon. Being a dad again is an experience.. and the difference in the mothers underlines the adage that the most important decision in your life is who you choose to be the mother of your children. Your life will fork in one of only two very different directions depending on that… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
11 days ago

@NNN1 Barn report: I’m actually picking up more from @Sentients analysis than your report, there are higher level things to consider. Your most substantial risk is that you’re social and probably “good with women” like I was. This risks is that you end up like @youngshagger, who poasted here for a bit until he decided “he’s learnt game and didn’t need it” His situation is that he is apex alpha in life – which means he’s academically at the top, and physically at the top. So he will be phenomenally successful financially, and he is also phenomenally successful in his… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
10 days ago

@Palma Did you get any IOI’s? Was either an actual target? Open or closed questions? No IOIs, I just opened for the sake of opening. Now I did pack it in the conversation with the gay dude and the girl in a way that’s fun. None of them was actual target, kinda closed question. Later in the set with the short HB 6 I told the others “we’re gonna head to the bar to return my cup.”. Fair enough in the first place I actually wanted the HB 7 and engaged the HB 6 at first just to win her… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 days ago

@NNN1

^^ good. Well done

ApocJason
ApocJason
8 days ago

For the last months I’ve done segeral questionable things: Started to visit scorts again even though it fucks up my finances. Got back to my porn and fap addicion (up to 4 times x day), therefore my normal sex drive decreased significantly. Got into this zone in which one wonders if the pua stuff and intersexual dynamics aren’t as complicated as they are shown in the manosphere (while others just get it why should I go out of my schefule and approach), thinking that just being myself and improving bit by bit things will come i.e: success with girls. After… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
8 days ago

one wonders if the pua stuff and intersexual dynamics aren’t as complicated as they are shown in the manosphere (while others just get it why should I go out of my schefule and approach) Intersexual dynamics are actually pretty simple once you got the gist. Truth is simple: 80 % of men are just deemed unattractive and might eventually get a girlfriend when she really needs ressources. Of the remaining 20% only 5% are deemed really attractive and 1% might actually get hit on by women. The 5% (so 1 in 20) just need to enable women to hit on… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
7 days ago

@NNN1 Excellent report, and excellent ownership. The only thing I think you should re think is “regrets”:- but more specifically regrets in life.: And I regret this pretty hard – for them girls were dtf, you could really tell that. Yeah well,.. so what.. there will always be more girls… half the planet is full of them. I have done some really stupid things over the years. The most stupid was freebasing crack cocaine. By the guy that never did drugs, and it could have got really out of hand. But I don’t regret it. That doesn’t mean that I… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
7 days ago

nothing is a mistake if you’ve learned from it Yep, I asked google for venues in my university city (didn’t do it that way yet), found some club-like venues with free entrance. Gonna go there on the weekend to check it out (and see about the possibilieites to open and pull). I figured I need to go out more and to venues to meet new people, I won’t open and approach that way when out with my Homie group (especially as that’s a mixed group with dudes petrified of opening a set). So I’ll check wether a fellow student (guess… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
6 days ago

@NNN1

so my gut was sure he is her boyfriend

Open question “how do you (all) know each other?”

Deals with that..

NNN1
NNN1
6 days ago

Open question “how do you (all) know each other?” Deals with that.. I had done that, they know each other from the same lecture. They didn’t talk about a Relationshit, it was my gut feeling of how the guy behaved (mate guarding). Should’ve ignored that probably… Compliance report: Went to a salsa lesson / party yesterday evening. Couldn’t stay past half past ten, got an important presentation today (as part of an exam) Learned some salsa moves and met some new women, one HB 8 from Syria. Chatted with her for quite a while, but didn’t see IOIs – so… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 days ago

NNN1

Open question “how do you (all) know each other?”

Deals with that..

I had done that, they know each other from the same lecture. They didn’t talk about a Relationshit, it was my gut feeling of how the guy behaved (mate guarding). Should’ve ignored that probably…

Good logistics up front…

Next time, you could do something more fun – “So you boyfriend girlfriend?” etc.

Put him on the spot. A lot of the time the guy will be quiet but the girl will say “we’re friends”…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
5 days ago

^^

You look like such a happy couple when’s the wedding?

NNN1
NNN1
5 days ago

OK so here’s the game plan: Entry to the party. I plan eight o´clock, maybe a Homie’s gonna join me but I’m using him only as a pivot. The gay dude and the girl from last week implied they wouldn’t attend the party today but I texted them so we’ll see. Actually they’re not necessary, just for the first fifteen to thirty minutes – which is to have fun. Open a set in the queue before the entrance just to get into the mood of opening – when there’s no queue take the first set I see when I enter… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
5 days ago

Use the Homie as a pivotal opener – tell them I said he looks so much like one studying xyz but he neglects it. What do you think he’s studying – and then guess what they do. That is: whirl them around. Actually follow up with “why do you think he’s studying that?” I’m most uncertain kinda about that “let’s go check out that cider”, but I guess I should just assume attraction when she’s still there after that bunch of storytelling. Then there’s the other part: Is that really alpha enough (in the stories)? I could also include stories… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
5 days ago

@NNN1

Reference the girl that was “with” another guy

https://therationalmale.com/2017/05/31/the-utility-of-beta-men-part-i/

Do a Goldmund… look at the comments by the way, it got really heated..lol.

IAS
IAS
5 days ago

LR N=18. Target B. Still hot but epiphany or post-epiphany phase. Some white hairs already, natural redhead, something which I’ve been wanting to add to my “collection”. She was passing by for about 1 week, and very obviously flirting with me for several days. I was pacing it until I got her right where I wanted her (my place). I finally arrange logistics to get her to my place but some unexpected malfunctions delay us. I get her home but we were short on time to something scheduled and I decided not to be late just to bang her, so… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
5 days ago

Probs on that @IAS! So you’re basically banging through your social circle here? Pretty nice I only have a fail report – like a Drama in 5 acts! … Oh man lol Introduction: I arrange with a fellow student (L) to meet at 8 to go to the party. As we arrive there’s only very few and virtually no girl set. I use the time to chat a bit with my fellow student and meet my Homies as well. My fellow student met some other dude and I merge that set with my Homies. Nothing substantial up to now –… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 days ago

@NNN1 The big question of course is what went wrong? You didn’t get any traction in the sets with the cube. I’m not sure how you’re running it. The last time I ran it was with a 4 set and I was out alone. Each of the girls wanted their turn, and each ended up with their own outcome. How are you actually running it? Looks like you’re hitting it quite hard and you’re bouncing around the venue hitting on sets and getting blown out, and this is visible, women have a radar for it. It would probably be faster… Read more »

Last edited 4 days ago by PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 days ago

By the way, you have to make solid eye contact with her and don’t break away, make sure you’re smiling, smirking, laughing or you’ll come across as a serial killer

NNN1
NNN1
4 days ago

How are you actually running it? When I’m kinda locked in and already telling some stories I say “OK, so we’ll play a little game here – I’ve been taught it by an old friend of mine, and he studies psychotherapy – so there must be something behind it. First you’ll imagine a landscape and then I’ll know all about you, at least when we believe in it” Actually, when I’m looking back my delivery wasn’t confident enough. I think most times I need to sack the “when we believe in it”. And then make it more funny. Building a… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 days ago

@NNN1

psychotherapy

then I’ll know all about you,

I think you’re drilling down too hard with this and their closing down.

Being psychoanalysed on a night out isn’t usually fun…

I go with the scene

Flowers

Sky

Ladder by the box

And ask them what animal they see

There may be a bit more I’ve forgotten

NNN1
NNN1
3 days ago

And ask them what animal they see There may be a bit more I’ve forgotten Landscape, Cube, Ladder, Flower, Horse and Storm was what I did, but I guess letting them imagine what type of animal might be an even better story. So game plan for today: Gonna go to a university party at another university downtown with a male fellow student from my extended social circle. I guess he’d actually be a good wing, but we’ll see. We’re scheduled to meet there at nine o´clock, I guess there’s gonna be a bunch of girls (guessing from the demographics at… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
3 days ago

Nnn1

Are you a sexual threat? If not, why not?

How did the other guy make out with that girl you spoke with and leave with her?

Why are the girls there?

Are YOU enough, or are you trying to find a value trade?

Where is the sex location an hour away?

Second place is a set of steak knives… 🔪

NNN1
NNN1
3 days ago

Are you a sexual threat? If not, why not? I have a hard time getting why not. I realized my hair style is shit right now and I made an appointment at a decent coiffeur for Tuesday. However, I doubt this really explains it. Maybe I’m not directly sexual enough, but then that’s not backed by my experience from the report of yesterday: Went out to that party, muh fellow texted me an hour earlier he won’t make it (which didn’t surprise me lol, but it didn’t matter anyway as I knew where the party went down). I arrive there… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 days ago

@NNN1

No time really to analyse much right now but I’d suggest you stay away from online for the time being.

You have plenty of leads that are on demand.

You can and will pull an 8/9 in real life. There are no real physical looks / height / other barriers that can’t be overcome.

However if you stray into online it will damage you at this stage in the game.

You have plenty of leads when you go out, you’re just not closing. That’s the problem. Online won’t cure that.

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 days ago

@NNN1

only one question from me…

when you go out, do you or do you not feel like a walking hardon?…

if not, why not?…

good luck!…

NNN1
NNN1
2 days ago

You have plenty of leads that are on demand. True, I just don’t convert them and the big question is what I do wrong – I’m kinda certain we’ll find out somehow. However if you stray into online it will damage you at this stage in the game. @habd when you go out, do you or do you not feel like a walking hardon?… if not, why not? Looking back – not really or at least not the largest portion of the time. Maybe because I don’t feel like I can pull her. – Which is fatal, as nothing might… Read more »

IAS
IAS
1 day ago

@NNN1

It’s not the hair style LOL.

Don’t be in a rush. You are putting in the work. You already started getting results, and you will get results more consistently.

COVID was an issue but on the other hand if it wasn’t for COVID maybe you wouldn’t have found about this site. Don’t hold onto it as an excuse 🙂 You are doing good work, you will get good results.

Be patient and keep banging DWG. Your confidence will keep increasing and the Uni girls will notice it in subtle hints you don’t even realize you are sending.

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 day ago

@NNN1 So I reallly want to know what I do wrong in the attraction phase or rather how to do it right. walking… hardon… lol… ya know, we’ve been doing this for a while now (trying to give men advice on getting p in v)… and it really does come down to THAT^^^…lol AND your social conditioning IS/WILL be pushing on you to ‘not’… sooo, here’s some actionable advice… the next time you go out (whether for class or social) (and any time after that…lol) look around and spot a cute girl that you would want to bang… don’t approach… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 day ago

@Sentient your ex will go mad when she finds out about the pregnant RD Well I hadn’t told anyone except a few, but it seems word has spread. I sent my son a Xmas card last week which told him and invited him to meet his new brother. Turns out he’s been working since 2019 which covers when we were meeting once a month and he didn’t tell me. Anyway today I got the court summons for an interim order. She doesn’t know that I don’t owe any money because she co habits and my income tanked for 3 years… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 day ago

Palma Oh boy. Yeah when she sees RD and lil Palma, she’s really gonna go nuts. Related to women going nuts… I was chatting a 33 yo 7.5. She was in a mood, really fiesty and angry. She’s all worked up over the “love of her life” – who’s she’s been seeing a year, since her divorce – breaking off with her and avoiding commitment. He’s such an asshole… blah blah. She says she sent him a really hot pic earlier and he didn’t even reply. This all in full venom. She shows me the pic, and 10 others. She’s… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
18 hours ago

@Sentient Oh boy. Yeah when she sees RD and lil Palma, she’s really gonna go nuts. Well, I’m not planning on them coming face to face. I don’t know what’s to be gained. Though I did email her today to tell her “out of courtesy” that other son has a brother due soon. Though we do live less than two miles apart, I rarely even see her. Somehow I never really get the feeling she is going nuts. And I don’t know why that is because I know she’s miserable and despite the trappings, Range Rover etc.. all of that… Read more »

Last edited 18 hours ago by PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
16 hours ago

Field report The visit to the ex wife’s house to deliver Xmas present to son no.1 So in the end I decided to doorstep son no.1 and deliver his Xmas present. So I turn up at about 7.30 pm and knock on the door and the ex comes to answer and sees me through the clear glass door. Standard practice, she’s pissed off but answers the door demanding to know what I want. I hold up the envelope and say Xmas present for A. Is he in? She’s like “he’s at university” I say “yeah but he’s living here, university… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
14 hours ago

OK, another compliance report: Went out downtown with two friends (one male, one female) to that “student party” at some club. We arrived there at 10:30 pm and there was legitimately nothing going on (telling through the window). So we went to a cocktail bar first to have a drink (only male sets and mixed two sets there). At around 11:00 pm we go to the club and there’s legitimately nothing happening (sent a pic to Palma). So we decide to go to the next club (open, according to Google) – as a female 2set enters the room. Now I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 hours ago

@NNN1 – ***** PAGING @ALL – HOW THE FUCK DO WE TURN THIS AROUND ***** While banging her in the car on Sunday I told her I wanted her to love me Did that translate right? You want her to be in love with you, and you told her that? That’s equivalent to telling her that you love her and in direct contravention of one of the rules of poon. If so that ^^ was a needy bad move. (which she said she can’t right now) She would have been well on the way to falling in love with the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 hours ago

Palma Classic Palma bat to the fence move… Good for you keeping the fire vur I guess for your son, making effort. I think you are in the right head space. He’s 20 gonna do what he does, HOWEVER in 5 years time or whatever he will look back on your long string of attempts and it will register. Until then , we’ll you are going to be envy busy soon mate 😂 NNN1 100% agree with Palma. You’ve shown too much soft blue underbelly, best thing you can do is limit contact and yes go off campus and hunt… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
5 hours ago

@Palma – thanks for your quick reply, I wouldn’t be so far in with the bang without your advice. =I might see you on Friday on my terms but I probably won’t bang you. Probably, yet I’m super confident I would bang her there. I think I’m gonna reschedule to Sunday (in one or two days). Having set light to the hamster you ignored all that and she got nothing back –> Do I get this right, setting light to the hamster is usually good… Which would mean it’s actually better than I feared. you’ll greet other girls. I think… Read more »

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