For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
FR At a crypto meetup. Smallish attendance so it’s just about 10 people around a big table. 9 men and 1 woman (Asian, about 30 – although who can tell with Asian women – and HB6-6.5 (maybe 7 if you’re into Asians – very well dressed and made up etc unlike the men). Two separate conversations, my side of the table is the woman (who is to my left) and another 3-4 guys). I vaguely some of the men from before but hadn’t met the woman before. I walked in, sat down, listened and asked questions etc for a while,… Read more »
OTP
Where do you want to take it?
Catching up on comments.. @stuffinbox Been awhile, congratulations on your red pill journey and your new family. Thanks – where ya been? I hadn’t picked up that my son was passive aggressive, but he really is. And you’re right, that’s not down to me. That’s the environment he’s in. And he won’t be enjoying that. @NNN1 is probably digging that bomb shelter… He’s back to back exams right now I think so he’s off the radar until those are cleared down. There was a suggestion a few of us fly to Germany for an evening for a catch up and… Read more »
@PalmaSailor @HABD Have you seen Scott Adams melt down on Twatter as he’s finally accepted the anti jabbers were right, but he can’t reconcile how he came to the “wrong conclusion”. i had heard something about that…lol… but i hadn’t really looked into it… if’n he’s not accepted that he f^ked up, he’s probably a dead man walkin’… bc he won’t get on the treatment protocol asap… which is what needs to happen… the longer you wait post jab, the worser your chances… social conditioning can affect anybody… even dudes that notice that sh^t for a career…lol and it looks… Read more »
@HABD I won’t pretend that I understand the IgG4 stuff, especially at 3.48 AM when I should be asleep. ya, that sh^t is getting out into the mainstream…lol… and folks are NOT happy… I think the tell tale was that real estate agent that asked what my wife thought of the Jab.. and her visual reaction. But separately you can’t avoid it. I have 2 friends that are dead, and one guy from the rugby club that now has “heart problems”. The two friends that are dead are my oldest friend who I’ve never referred to here, and my accountant.… Read more »
@PalmaSailor @HABD I won’t pretend that I understand the IgG4 stuff, especially at 3.48 AM when I should be asleep. i haven’t really looked into the actual mechs that are involved in your immune system, but my understanding is that you have an immune response that is a process… based on evo/bio principles… first your body tries to keep sh^t out of your system… with mucus/etc… in your nose and throat/eyes… next, if something gets in, it gets evaluated for ‘issues’… if it needs to be neutralized (like a virus/pathogen) then your IgG3 system kicks in to do that… there… Read more »
…And remember what RT has said about BPD/Cluster Bers, if you will.
They can be master manipulators.
They can be dangerous.
It IS them, NOT you behaving poorly and trying to sabotage.
Trust…maintain your FRAME and stay well; almost guaranteed, they will NOT.
Thank you RT and TRM.
-Halp
Palma – spanking – occasionally light spanking during sex. Tying up – never done it, not really my thing, but quite often hold her hands/arms back during sex and physically restrain her with my weight which she quite likes. Sentient – I’m not sure what I want. I know I’m not done with other women yet (particularly not till I’ve ticked off some of the cold approach type stuff I still haven’t nailed, plus a few sexual things – threesomes etc) but I’m not really looking to add lots of notches to the lay count (to mix metaphors). I’m more… Read more »
Rollo will have a field day with this
https://nypost.com/2023/02/04/kentucky-woman-is-lovesick-for-idaho-killer-bryan-kohberger/
OTP
It’s not even what I’ll be able to do if I take the initiative more and strike up more conversations etc. But then what?
well “then what” is going to lead to Teh Seks… So if you aren’t going to go there, just have the short breezy interaction and leave it at that. No number, no day 2 etc.
@Sentient
Rollo will have a field day with this
https://nypost.com/2023/02/04/kentucky-woman-is-lovesick-for-idaho-killer-bryan-kohberger/
what’s the over/under on this girl having at LEAST 3 dudes beating on her door to be her plan b?…lol
good luck!
Already cued up for Sunday
HABD
I suspect she has 20 tradcon orbiters already, none dissuaded by her 16 YO son.
The real meat on the bone here, tying back to Palma… Her biggest sex organ is her brain…
She is having “sensations” just “thinking” about this guy, 1,000 miles away…
@Sentient / HABD She is having “sensations” just “thinking” about this guy, 1,000 miles away… It’s not really a sec organ, it’s a reproduction organ. Kentucky woman doesn’t have any choice. If you look at her, there’s definitely a gene pool in her that needs adjusting with a dose of bad arse if her offspring is going to have any hope of survival. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. Though that ^^ phenomenon is scary to mainstream society, the thing that’s really scary is sitting here in the covefee shop people watching everyone else. Most of the women… Read more »
LOL@ that woman – it’s not her first time pining for a murderer and it got so bad that the first murderer blocked her from visiting him in prison! Just how nuts is she? From the article: “Kohberger isn’t the first jailbird Hislope has pursued, having previously pined for local convicted killer Cody Hall, 33, who fatally shot a 50-year-old man in Pulaski County, KY, in 2017, before attacking his sister and another woman with a machete. “I visited him, put money in his [commissary] account, wrote him letters, and I wanted to be in a loyal, commited [sic] relationship… Read more »
I didn’t see the Sunday show linked any where.
“She is having “sensations” just “thinking” about this guy, 1,000 miles away…”
Committing murder and getting banged up are not really options on the table for average fella.
Neither is autism
for average fella
Don’t be an average fella..
One of my daughter’s friend’s moms is always super friendly to me. I don’t see her that often (usually my wife handles the play dates etc and is friendly with her) but sometimes I pick my daughter up or like yesterday ran into her at the mall with her daughter when it was just me and chatted for a few minutes. By miles the most attractive of the “mom circle” at school or any of my wife’s friends. About my age, attractive face, great body and in great shape. Slim brunette. Used to be a professional ballerina and now teaches… Read more »
“Neither is autism” Autism is a development/neurological disorder, there’s very little choice for those afflicted. “Don’t be the average fella” Even in a world of everyone attempting to be in the top x%, someone has to be average. Any distribution curve you care to look, in terms of human activity, have approximately 80% of all data points within two units of deviation of the mean (with 10% existing at each extreme) In other words the Pareto principle. Saying “don’t be like that”, is a non-sequitur as a general piece of guidance, not to mention nihilistic or even solipsistic, someone has… Read more »
Think you’re missing the point NedBelly. Someone has to be average, but it doesn’t have to be YOU. Or any man who makes up his mind to no longer be average and push his limits. You do that (and put in the work required) and I guarantee you will no longer be average and a lot better than when you started off. I’m not saying you’ll be world champion at a sport or a billionaire or whatever (although it’s possible) but simply making up your mind and putting in the work pretty much guarantees you will no longer be average.… Read more »
@NedBelly
This place is all about understanding what you want and getting it. Nothing about that is average.
If you’re honest about what you want then getting it probably won’t be easy for you, but it can be done.
But that’s where it is.
If you want to improve and get what you want stick around and tell us more about yourself.
If you don’t then Twitter is down the hall on the left.
What’s it gonna be Nedbelly…
Cope or work?
Start with a bio, how old, where are you generally, n count, last lay, ever broken up with a woman (your choice not hers), some things you want from this short life…
Go!
” . . . in a world of everyone attempting to be in the top x% . . .”
And here is your fundamental error. Most of the people in the belly of the curve are just coasting, and these days with minimal kinetic energy.
The minimal effort it takes to learn to ride fixed is all it takes to lift yourself above.
@kfg
” . . . in a world of everyone attempting to be in the top x% . . .”
I’m not sure many people right now are seriously trying at anything at all.
It should be easier than ever.
Otp
https://twitter.com/YockeySlutRedux/status/1615091614606852096
Very entertaining account…
@Sentient I dunno, I’ve been off the matrix for a bit. I’ve taken my eye off what’s going on out there to a large extent. Very few women turn my head now but there have been a couple in their late 20’s who have something about them. Two potential customers, both living with effeminate, soy ish boyfriends, both living in houses where I’m in doing the work. I could just feel the sexual energy spinning off both of them. Both dealing with me, and boyfriends taking a back seat. Both cases I think I could have just taken their hand… Read more »
Palma there have been a couple in their late 20’s who have something about them.* Two potential customers, both living with effeminate, soy ish boyfriends, both living in houses where I’m in doing the work. I could just feel the sexual energy spinning off both of them. Both dealing with me, and boyfriends taking a back seat. Both cases I think I could have just taken their hand and walked them to the bedroom. That’s the ole male competition/dominance drive kicking in… works well for the ladies don’t it? Reality is, those guys probably would’ve enjoyed watching…. smh So few… Read more »
Enjoy the ride is about all we can do +1… and to that end… we take our fun where we find it… just like our girls…lol chatgpt knows whats up in the good ol’ US of A…lol https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/16aA95ATM9/chatgpt-makes-dr-suess-poem-on-w/c/ Shooty shooty pew pew pew! Let’s all learn what guns can do! Liberals in the USA Love to nod their heads and say, “You bought your guns from a store! You can’t fight a civil war! Fight the army, you will lose! They have jets and tanks to use!” That’s not where the story ends! They have homes, and kids, and friends!… Read more »
@Sentient Reality is, those guys probably would’ve enjoyed watching…. smh Exactly the same thought occurred to me but that’s definitely not my bag. And it’s not the first time I thought it. When I used to hang out at a specific bar in the PRG, there were couples who would open a conversation and offer a glass from their bottle of wine, did I want to try their food etc.. So few have experienced the moment of turning the table on a bully… so sweet and such a profound lesson. worthy of study. It is. And I’m not pro bullying.… Read more »
Palma
Yeah I’m in no way surprised that skilled workers on their own can generate $250K plus. What I am surprised about is that the two income couple who produce nothing but ESG reports and BS and move bits of digital paper around can pay it, plus all the other BS they are spending their $250K a year on… That’s the mindfuck.
Sentient – heh@ that Twitter account. I barely understand half of what he’s saying in some of those tweets, but it’s entertaining.
Had an interesting alpha move performed on me at the coffee shop. Standing in line and went to put my gym bag on a seat, and came back and the big dude behind me with a straight face is like “Hey, you just cut in to the line there” and I was like “Err, I was just..” and he started laughing – got me good.
@Palma
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wX4rwcgli9Q
@OTP
Monday morning QB, Hey big guy if you need to go wee wee I will hold your spot.
@Stuffinbox
Lol.. all the poofs do it like that..
@OTP Interesting coincide ref your coffee shop thing. I was in the builders merchants at the counter beside this guy (2 servers at the counter) and he’s collecting small bits and pieces which he picks up from the server and to get out he has to turn towards me which he does and drops the lot on the floor. I’m not looking but he’s facing me now shouting you f* ing c*nt and I didn’t touch him – so immediately I escalate with “Sack (fire) the juggler, you’re no bloody good at it mate, don’t give up the day job”… Read more »
@Sentient don’t even get me started on bitcoin In the news, the latest bank to “clamp down”: Nationwide said it will not allow payments to crypto exchanges using credit cards and will limit adult current accounts to 5,000 pounds ($5,995) of purchases per day. The building society said the move was in response to regulatory concern over the risks of buying digital currencies. Little known fact that over here, credit card companies are liable for what you buy with them. Under S75 of the CCA 1974, if you buy something on credit which turns out to be a crock of… Read more »
Instead of giving my opinion on crypto (which you guys know anyway), I’ll just ask – what would you need to see happen in the real world to think “maybe I was wrong – maybe there’s something to this crypto stuff after all”. Not what logical argument will convince you – rather, what would you actually need to see happen in the future? And if the answer is “nothing will convince me” – there’s nothing wrong with that, but if you don’t have a falsification condition, you don’t have a scientific opinion based on facts (because then there must be… Read more »
@OTP “Not what logical argument will convince you – rather, what would you actually need to see happen in the future?”
TPTB are moving us closer to an sdr currency that would be a digital medium for all cbdc;s .What I would need to see is a crypto connected to commodities. Back in the early 80s there was a company called smarter barter , a bulletin board of sorts that you could post your wares and asking price or what items you are in need of.
interesting daily read
https://tradingeconomics.com/stream
@OTP what would you need to see happen in the real world to think “maybe I was wrong – maybe there’s something to this crypto stuff after all”. Government acceptance. The ability to use it to pay taxes. The fiat stuff we’ve got isn’t really a currency either because without government backing it’s not a store of value, it’s just paper. It’s only a store of value within the system we’ve got whereas for instance using grain or pigs as a value store would be much more legitimate because you could eat them. That’s a real value store. If you… Read more »
” . . . if you don’t have a falsification condition, you don’t have a scientific opinion based on facts . . .”
The hypothesis is that crypto has value.
” . . . without government backing it’s not a store of value, it’s just paper.”
Paper has value. In the Somalian economic collapse the market determined that the monetary value of the paper a bank note was printed on was 2 cents.
As a side note, being able to pay your taxes with it is what makes it Legal Tender (accepted as payment at law, i.e. by the government), not currency. A currency is anything generally accepted in trade, say, in certain situations, .22LR cartridges.
” . . . in certain situations . . .”
i.e. “currently.”
@OTP Instead of giving my opinion on crypto (which you guys know anyway), I’ll just ask – what would you need to see happen in the real world to think “maybe I was wrong – maybe there’s something to this crypto stuff after all”. Not what logical argument will convince you – rather, what would you actually need to see happen in the future? like the others, i too would need to see crypto as Legal Tender… and also based on some solid commodities… like these…lol https://luxe.digital/lifestyle/scene/most-valuable-beanie-babies/ https://www.workandmoney.com/s/most-valuable-beanie-babies-e902756fef944af3 of course these^^^ are based on a type of arbitrary scarcity model… Read more »
@kfg – c’mon man. “Crypto has value” is not a hypothesis – it’s a fact. We know that because you can use crypto to buy anything you want right now (except love – lol). Now you can argue (as Palma and HABD are doing) that crypto’s value is entirely speculative and it will all go to zero eventually (like beanies or tulips or whatever) – and maybe they are right. But that’s not the same as saying “it has no value” – it clearly does, and I’ve been supporting my family and putting food on the table primarily with crypto… Read more »
@OTP @kfg – c’mon man. “Crypto has value” is not a hypothesis – it’s a fact. We know that because you can use crypto to buy anything you want right now (except love – lol). i think you are mistaking some cause/effect here…lol Now you can argue (as Palma and HABD are doing) that crypto’s value is entirely speculative and it will all go to zero eventually (like beanies or tulips or whatever) – and maybe they are right. But that’s not the same as saying “it has no value” – it clearly does, and I’ve been supporting my family… Read more »
@OTP
on second thought, you should point me towards some basic crypto education resources…
if you’re gonna hire me as a brand consultant/innovator, i should have a better understanding of this sh^t…lol
and you are right, some folks made a LOT of munny in tulips…lol
good luck!
@OTP, I love you little buddy, lol not like that ! Imagine a big inedible onion and the skins between the layers are gold leaf. The center of the onion is thousands of years old and consists of useless eaters, decendant’s that skim off of every transaction between all the layers a little more gold leaf . Now imagine the rest of the onion gains awareness. LOL What may happen is an extinction burst from the inside out that tries to shake off various layers out of order ( a big fn mess)….. This is what I see in crypto… Read more »
@stuffinbox Imagine a big inedible onion and the skins between the layers are gold leaf. The center of the onion is thousands of years old and consists of useless eaters, decendant’s that skim off of every transaction between all the layers a little more gold leaf . Now imagine the rest of the onion gains awareness. LOL What may happen is an extinction burst from the inside out that tries to shake off various layers out of order ( a big fn mess)….. great analogy!…lol… that’s actually a great explanation of (real) civil war…lol aaand, we know that the US… Read more »
@kfg
Paper has value. In the Somalian economic collapse the market determined that the monetary value of the paper a bank note was printed on was 2 cents.
It could get to the point where you’d take that trade..
@Habd I really dig those triple exclamation points. lol Ladies come get some dick!!! What will likely be the deal breaker for ‘ private ‘ crypto’s ( and a whole lots of other great things) is the online monitoring or biometric digital ID’s to even log in. So not expecting the Escabar’s to be moving a lot of funds in crypto any time soon. Couple that with high interest rates and a decline in M2 , there could be safer bets out there like an elvira slot machine on haloween. lol The rough part is the sunk cost fallacy, we… Read more »
@Stuffinbox The rough part is the sunk cost fallacy I’ve never met anyone in real life that can or will voluntarily write off a sunk cost (accept that it’s sunk and gone). I regard it as “taking the first loss”. @OTP We know that because you can use crypto to buy anything you want right now You can’t. I can’t buy food, diesel, materials for work, beer, or anything else I can think of that I would want. Normal day to day shit, I can’t use it. It likely does have a Yuge bull run in it before total collapse,… Read more »
@Palma “It likely does have a Yuge bull run in it before total collapse, and that’s because of @Stuffinbox’s sunk cost fallacy. It’s the ego investment which is the sunk cost, not the ackshual munny. That’s why it will go again before total wipe out.” Who is buying? LOL IMO the only reason any crypto is worth anything at all is sunk cost , the ‘ investors ‘ (gamblers) are hyping the hell out of it hoping for a return to ‘the good old days’ when things were on the uptick, much like an old lady with her favorite slot… Read more »
@stuffinbox (@TOM!!!) The rough part is the sunk cost fallacy, we have bit miners actually running abandoned coal power plants to run their computers. Now they are crying about the ‘investment’ of time and money. Sometimes it is just a bust and we have to write things off and move on quickly. this is one of the issues that bothers me about ‘crypto’ but I couldn’t quite get a handle on it, but this^^^ pinged it for me… crypto sells the concept of scarcity/value… which in one sense is true… within the original math function… but there is never any… Read more »
looks like I’m censored!!! lol
@Stuffinbox
looks like I’m censored!!! lol
We’ll I still love ya.. no ghey.. but I haven’t had time to check in properly.
Sort of 3rd person field report might be of interest to any lurkers, if there are any left here. Got a phone call from a friend that I have from the PRG. I’ve referred to this guy before here. He’s 65 ish, old school player, he’s had two wives, 5 children. He still, at 65, boxes at amateur level for fun and he’s got several women on the go. They chop and they change. This includes several women in their mid 20’s who come and go when it suits them. The early 20’s ones just come and go for sex,… Read more »
Palma The blue pill alphas have a hard time believing where things are. They have so much success with getting laid they get lost to the true nature of women and the state of open hypergamy.. A 5′ 10 BEB Barbi doll I know, near 9. Well she just turned 35… she’s been trying to lock down her former live in bf, who she still shares a house with (his) when she is in town and not jetting off to one of the many trips she gets offered to go to every weekend – nfl games,skiing, beach, etc. etc, I… Read more »
@Palma, @Sentient, @kfg I don’t want to get into an argument over the internet. It doesn’t really make any difference, and I accept I could be wrong. It seems to me Mr. Tomassi, and you all appear to be describing, in your anecdotes, is the very archetype of R selected women. I’ve know the sort you describe, as I’ve had to deal with a fair few of them, as they were the “carers” that came to provide “help” my wife as she lay slowly dying (think single mothers who are paid by the government to breed with layabouts, drug addicts,… Read more »
NedBelly
Do you read TRM bro?
How is a woman “K selected”? Genetics? Is there a DNA test you can administer?
How many of the divorced hordes of women appeared K selected? what – the sun dress shit again?
Learn about the nature of women (and Men!), learn about the Red Pill. Look at life that way and THEN use the knowledge to do what you want.
[sidenote – you can forget about the “save the West” bs from the basement dwellers]
pop quiz
K selected or not?
Extra Credit
Circle the K selected ones…
@Sentient You seem a bit defensive. I’m not sure what your argument is, nor why you’ve mentioned sun dresses for that matter. I can’t understand why you’ve posted the photo for comment, people tell you who they are, you just have to be quiet and listen. You guys have an interesting germ of a theory, but be mindful that its based on anecdote, and there is a danger for confirmation or selection bias. For example, Mr Tomassi was in a rock band and admits to meeting lots of groupies, and then according to his bio became involved with liquor marketing… Read more »
@Nedbelly
So you’re not getting what you want from women then.
@PalmaSailor
I don’t want anything from anyone. I want to leave this world in a better state from when I was first able to perceive it, although I don’t believe using Mr. Tomassi’s theories to espouse a mixture of Epicureanism and Nihilism is part of that (teaching young men to be strong, capable and informed is good however).
All the best.
@Nedbelly
I thought not.
I want to leave this world in a better state from when I was first able to perceive it
How are you planning on doing that?
@NedBelly just one question from me… which one of the parents drives the r/K selection – male or female?… and one comment… if you are going to teach young men to be strong, capable and informed… about girls… you are going to have to understand girls, right?… sooo, you should be able to tell us exactly how TRM and @Rollo’s teachings are wrong… so, instead of just discounting TRM analysis of ‘girls’, you should be able to explain to us (and young men in general) how girls actually work, right? (ok, that was two questions…lol)… and just saying that the… Read more »
@Having a bad day I think you’re picking and choosing what to quote me on. In case I wasn’t clear, I’m not suggesting a better theory, I’m humbly suggesting the possibility for selection or confirmation bias in Mr. Tomassi’s anecdotal theories (or the comment posters’ steadfast belief in the absolute truth of such theories, from what appears to be their own anecdotes). I have some questions because it doesn’t appear to reconcile with some of the people I’ve met in the course of my life. It’s quite possible for inconsistencies in a theory to be found before a better theory… Read more »
@PalmaSailor
It’s a question I ask myself whenever I have a moment for reflection.
Nedbelly
You can’t come on here and deflect broski..
Which are the K selected women?
And answer HABD and Palmas questions…
And also look up the definition of “anecdote”.
@Sentient The blue pill alphas have a hard time believing where things are. They have so much success with getting laid they get lost to the true nature of women and the state of open hypergamy.. It’s quite bizarre actually. He does actually get the Alpha / Beta thing. We were having a conversation about a customer I didn’t want to work for. So I had been contacted by the male, and “he” had done a refurb on the cheap on a rental they had and a part of it was a louse up and I had quoted to repair… Read more »
@NedBelly @Having a bad day I think you’re picking and choosing what to quote me on. i can respond to your whole comment…lol… but i thought i would just cut to the chase…lol… which parent drives the r/K selection process… mother or father?… In case I wasn’t clear, I’m not suggesting a better theory, I’m humbly suggesting the possibility for selection or confirmation bias in Mr. Tomassi’s anecdotal theories (or the comment posters’ steadfast belief in the absolute truth of such theories, from what appears to be their own anecdotes). i ALWAYS check my confirmation bias… that’s just sound analysis…… Read more »
@Nedbelly
i can respond to your whole comment…lol…
He can. That’s a featured not a bug.. lol…
Why don’t you drop the buffers and say what’s really bothering you – which you are trying to rationalise having swallowed a thesaurus, which is that you can’t get what you want from women – and we’ll work through that.
@All If @Nedbelly is who I think he is He would be the late 60s commenter here that just lost his wife of 40 plus years and is now the prize of the one legged race? I have invented the one legged race where all the contestants are 60+ women with their legs tied together at one end of the arena the prize at the other end is holding the most eligible bachelor sign , at the firing of the gun anything goes in the race for provisioning. Then I would be about to go where he has been with… Read more »
@NedBelly
“If @Nedbelly is who I think he is He would be the late 60s commenter here that just lost his wife of 40 plus years and is now the prize of the one legged race?”
if this is true, my condolences!.. that’s a big loss…
and you really do need to understand how girls work if you are back in the SMP after a long marriage…
just post up your questions/comments and we’ll try to help…
good luck!
@Nedbelly No one wishes that on you if it’s true. Buuuuutttt…. If that’s what’s happened you’re about to get mobbed with a million women literally delivering you cake and cooked food to your door. You’re the mark, and you’re in a very dangerous place. Please step in here and talk. @All On other news my BP alpha amateur boxer friend has fallen hard for Ms. 42. He’s been avoiding the phone for days and I finally got to him today.. He’s started taking his daughters anti depressants and he’s been hanging out with her and he’s proposing to “make a… Read more »
@Palma “@All On other news my BP alpha amateur boxer friend has fallen hard for Ms. 42. He’s been avoiding the phone for days and I finally got to him today.. He’s started taking his daughters anti depressants and he’s been hanging out with her and he’s proposing to “make a go of it” because he’s “beginning to see that he’s getting on and should settle down” Blah blah blah … shit … what can I do with that ^^?” Is this the same one he saw making it with another man, through the window, while he was on his… Read more »
@SIB.. Is this the same one he saw making it with another man, through the window, while he was on his way to propose? Yeah… NO way We’ll he says he hasn’t exactly been an angel himself either so he’s cutting her some slack… His rational is He is running out of time so lets spend the rest of my life tied down to an entitled demanding branch swinger that will keep him busy while she is looking for something better. I’m not sure he’s got any rationale Maybe I’m just being negative? Nope you’re just being real. Sometimes I… Read more »
@All Happy St Pattys day! Things are going good here ,Mrs, Box has corned beef and cabbage going on the wood stove top, the chickens are laying, the bees are all overwintered alive and well,Mom is cashing in the fruits of my labor (selling the house I built for her in ot 2 that has doubled in value) and my 39 yo daughter that moved back home last month is working her new job as a supervisor. I am going out to put the finishing touches on a gym I have been building from dirt to trim the last 9… Read more »
@PalmaSailor @All On other news my BP alpha amateur boxer friend has fallen hard for Ms. 42. He’s been avoiding the phone for days and I finally got to him today.. he knows what you are going to say…lol… AND he knows you are right… at least on some level… He’s started taking his daughters anti depressants and he’s been hanging out with her and he’s proposing to “make a go of it” because he’s “beginning to see that he’s getting on and should settle down” Blah blah blah … shit … what can I do with that ^^? you… Read more »
@PalmaSailor
My money the entire landscape has re valued via yield shift to reflect lower rates and that’s reversing so everyone is gonna be shit out a luck.. and liquidity…
also… yep… the concept of ‘interest’ has priced out of the market…lol… my ballpark WAG is that 90% of transactions can’t make financial sense at ANY interest rate above 0%…lol… and liquidity gets tight AT 0%…lol
good luck!
@HABD then, ask him how many kids he is gonna have with ms 42…lol… bc in the modern era, there really is no reason to get married except for kids, right?… That is the whole point she’s been overt about it – I must have forgotten to say it. He’s already got 5 he knows about, plus he suspects he has one more from a particular occasion some time back. And she probably won’t get pregnant, then it will be IVF – and there goes 6 figures – And so it goes on. does he know about TRM?… or is… Read more »
Rollo
On your search for “normal” women, here ya go.
https://paworldandtimes.wordpress.com/2023/03/11/honesty-in-springtime/#comment-80830
Palma, your friend, same one that had that EE girl?
Lolz… Rollo – normal woman and her “Boyfriend Qualified Lead” spreadsheets…
@Sentient No, this is a different guy. It was old friend that had EEGF. He, unfortunately is BB. He plays the money / house / cars game, though he is dark triad enough to not get fully involved and just pass through a lot of women / has several in the go. Except it looks lien he has now been “caught”. Same script – he’s “getting older” – 67 ish and is getting fed up of the chase so it looks like he’s “settling down”. Nothing I can do about that. His BB game has worked so well for years… Read more »
@All As @kfg has pointed out “women are the apex predator.” IMO;;As we men age our testosterone levels drop and womens levels increase at the same time. This spins up the @Habd’s “guard dog syndrome” and if a man doesn’t have game he is basically dinner. So to some extent we can never relax and let our guard down and @ Palma’s 67 yo punchy friend will never find the peace that he is looking for in marriage without bringing in game. Also it would appear that making the transition to ‘red pill’ value’s as it were becomes less likely… Read more »
@SIB
Yup.
Both punchy and old friend are fucked.
They’ve had too much intermittent reinforcement of their ways to believe they’re doing anything wrong, or that there is a better / different way.
@Palma: damn it is sad that “Punchy” actually sees her making out with another guy (and what does he think she did afterward?) and goes for it and intends to wife her up and try to have kids with her after that…
@Everyone: N=19 🙂 Very happy with it.
She lives in a different city.
Met her about one month ago, we stayed in touch and she was giving me IOIs, one month after I’m in the city again, I get myself invited to her place, go for the K-close, makeout, then spend pretty much the whole afternoon building enough comfort…
This included a stop on the makeout and groping and a joint trip to the supermarket to get stuff, cook a snack, eat a bit, she barely eats, makeout, again, and finally get to the PIV hours later.
Hot Crazy Matrix A Man’s Guide to Women
makes me smile every time I watch it
” . . . the social conditioning at the time said it was…)… not an error of the theory…”
It was Newton who pointed out that failure mode of his theory in his publication of the theory.
So, guys, next week I have a few days alone at home since my family will be away. I haven’t done any cold approach for almost 5 years now (a few situational openers and chats aside where I didn’t even try to close), and I’ve not even slept with any woman other than my wife for almost 1.5 years (because that is when I last did online dating). But I last went out properly to pull in 2018. I haven’t even really tried to flirt or set a man/woman vibe or make laser EC with a woman since 2021 (excepting… Read more »
OTP
Wow 5 years since an approach? Damn.
Feels like you are freighting this time period with “blitz energy” which never worked for you.
I’d just slow down, focus on taking action. See an attractive girl, and GO! That’s it go. ACT. Because to do otherwise is to mask you desire. Unless the desire is not really there?
Which might be ok if that’s the case.
Sentient, yeah, crazy. Since fall 2018, so like 4.5 years since a true cold approach. I stopped to focus on other things in my life that were suffering from the blitzes and Game – marriage/family/parenting, fitness, finances, martial arts, and I did that (and went to Asia for over a year), and then the pandemic etc delayed things more. But things are on much more of an even keel now. There’s always some work to do to keep everything going, but I don’t need to focus so much on the other stuff and am starting to have more mental energy… Read more »
Jeez, I just searched on Youtube for “Mystery Method” and it looks like Mystery and Beckster are still going with the coaching. There is some infield footage from Bali very recently. He must be like 50 now – great inspiration.
(I have all the old school MM videos on my hard disk anyway)
thinking about this some more – while my desire is certainly there and I want more variety, the main driving force behind doing this is a strong sense of unfinished business. I promised myself in my 20s that I would become good with women – hence doing Mystery Method workshop etc before getting sucked into the relationship that became my marriage. In my 30s I started taking it seriously, beginning in 2012 (although not much progress that year), and particularly in the 2013-16 period I made huge progress – finding Heartiste, then YaReally, then TRM and this gang and going… Read more »
Also, I’ve started watching various old videos and reading old FRs etc. Not so much for the knowledge, but more as a refresher and to put me (back) into the right frame of mind. Anyway I came across a great story in a video by RSD Todd who talks about how he had a 70 year old man steal some girls from him which proves everything we talk about here. Basically Todd (maybe early 30s at the time) was daygaming in London’s Leicester Square day game area, and had hooked a 3 set of early 20s girls. He was telling… Read more »
@OTP
That old guy was treating Todd as an ugly girl and Todd’s initial domination of the frame as a shit test which he reduced to absurdity.
There could have been a save a ho element. Before being RP I’ve pulled girls out of situations before when they were getting hit on by some chump and it was obvious they really didn’t want to be there.
Amusing incident with the wife today. She came in to my home office around lunchtime to tell me she was heading out to do shopping. I hadn’t heard her come in as I had headphones on so I only noticed when the door opened and she came in. I had my laptop on my lap (screen facing away from her so she couldn’t see the screen), with TRM Field Reports up on it (lol) and as soon as I saw her, I used the keyboard shortcut to close that window. So she saw my fingers move and was like “What… Read more »
Nice work OTP
But ya know this is going to come up pre sex or post sex or both…
Time to drop the hammer.
Oh just to add – she’s taking the kids on a trip tomorrow so I’m not sure if this will come up again before she goes, but if she brings it up again on text (or next week in person when I join them), I’m thinking about how to handle it. Either I can continue with more of the same or turn the tables on her but not sure what’s the best play strategically. She’s obviously having a big “Dread” phase and to an extent that’s fine but this level of stuff is really annoying and more than I want… Read more »