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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

^^^ honestly why are you letting this guy live free in your head.

Fuck him.

You proceed as usual…

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

IAS So you’ve fucked 50% of the bangable girls yet feel insecure about Mr T. K You’re killing me… But I get it. Remember cats are not dogs. We are programmed to read physical cues as threats. Plains of Ur. The real threat is the guy who makes the biggest emotional impact. And here is where I think you are maybe going too secret in the society. All these other girls don’t know you are banging the others. So you are losing some of that preselection and that reputation. They are still able to treat you as a one off.… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

Update, another attempt with N=5. The early FRs were just reposted if anyone wants to recap, but the short version is we banged in two different days in March, then haven’t banged, I proposed she come over and she explicitly said it wasn’t for sex (there was the funny exchange about her looking fat). She came over and we didn’t bang. This time she reached out to me and proposed she cook. I agreed and so it is. She didn’t mention it wasn’t for sex (which was encouraging). I ended up cooking some meat and she makes a fancy side.… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

@IAS “She says she is in a confused situation and trying to figure some things out.” You’re not playing her game, she’s trying to stuff you in the exclusive boooooyfriend / provider box.. She’s given up the V twice but it didn’t work, bc she hasn’t got the exclusivity she “wanted” so now her only option is to pull back the v so she’s pulled it back – (very early doors but a long soft next for exclusivity) black dragon: https://blackdragonblog.com/2016/11/21/women-leave-return-several-lsnfte-case-studies/?r_done=1 She’s pulled back so hard after only two bangs bc she’s epiphany phase and running out of time.. tell… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

By the way I think you might have blown secret society by giving away that you were banging N3.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

“a gentleman doesn’t kiss and tell”

And chaaaàaaaaaaaaange the subject. Otherwise you are still in her frame answering her guesses.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

IAS
How do I know this? Because both N=3 and N=5 (separately) insisted on telling me all about it (ugh).

Did you laugh? If you did not laugh, why not? This stuff happens pretty frequently, it’s not your concern.
You’re not their girlfriend. You’re not their gay friend. You don’t owe them any kind of explanation about the SES or the SMV.

Just be amused by their high school antics.

Sentient
===> going by the book he should be treated like an ugly girl.

Lol, exactly.

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

@Palma: I wouldn’t say I gave it away that I was banging N=3. She was wondering whether I was banging anyone from the social circle since March, and this is because she saw me return from isolation with N=3. I actually did go for the walk also with the MILF before N=3 woke up. Then N=3 woke up so I went for a walk with N=3. There was nothing else to do in the morning while everyone else is sleeping so it isn’t that suspicious if she wants to think about it. Then she went that bit “Oh you didn’t… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

IAS I think you did confirm banging N3 in this part Then she is like “You and N=3 would be such a nice couple” and “She is intelligent bla bla” “Why don’t you date her?”. And I’m like Shrug and then go “I don’t want to have a girlfriend…”. Stuff like that. I suspect N5 will say something to N3 like “IAS said you where having sex?” As if you said it. Or “I hear you are banging IAS” maybe with a “it’s OK I am not anymore” depending upon the power dynamic between them. The secret society dynamic is… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

@Sentient: Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t see it that way at all, but maybe Palma and you did and I could be wrong. My “Why don’t you date her” reply isn’t confirmation as far as I see it. It was a more general thing like “I don’t want a gf at all” (see below) and to me it seemed clear N=5 was still unsure either way. N=5 probably does want drama but I suspect N=3 won’t play into it. I did explicitly tell N=5 “Why don’t you ask N=3” at the start of that bit of the convo, and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago
Reply to  IAS

IAS

In Catonese “Dating” comes after “fucking”… which you already grinned broadly at… 😉

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Random

Could not believe my eyes… Saw a stout back guy open the car door for a chubby white girl… Then walk around to the passenger side and get in…

Smh

Blax where are you????

Also random

https://www.elvis-atouchofgold.com/cybill-shepherd/

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago
Reply to  Sentient

Could be a strong, independent woman. Or could be the car title and insurance is in her name. Maybe too many points on his license? He doesn’t like to drive?

Or…it’s a standard transmission? Lots of men can’t drive a stick nowadays.

lol anyway.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

And they said shivvalrey is dead

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

@Sentient I’ve been reading @CH on game and its mostly as expected but there’s the odd line where you think “OH DAMN.. THATS where I’ve been flunking it” In my case as you know I’ve been hitting much younger women. I’ve been flirting and I’ve got the IOI’s flowing, but time after time I’ve been flunking it when I’ve upped the anti with my “cocky arsehole” approach. The overt public flirt has been frying their hamster and I’ve been sat there scratching my head thinking “damn, I got 6 IOI’s and she’s just blown out”. Then I read P 65:… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Palma Then you should escalate rapidly Cavemanning works. They have no defense to feels at that age, which is why the cock carousel spins. I have an 18 yo in sight that is totally up for it. Just feels too young for whatever reason. Iean half of these girls have had NO dad living with them. The other half, 25% zero masculinity. It’s really wild how much just a hard masculine vibe and a willingness to check their bullshit and challenge them works on the modern girl. I’ve been laying low with corono no travel. And a couple of ”… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient So the beach has opened here and the bars still suck for the best part. You get allocated your table in most and can’t “mingle”. Plus seating capacity means they’re only 10% full. You have to follow the one way system which I forget to do and get in arguments with door staff So useless. Yesterday I’m walking into town bc I’ve had 6 guys in my air Bnb and they’ve broken the front door lock coming in pissed and I have to replace. I’m not even carrying tool bag, just 2x screwdrivers and 2x sets pliers in one… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma

So I’ve got a mental block on that.. any ideas?

“Yeah it was quite a trip. Come round after work I’ll show you the pictures. Amazing.”

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago
Reply to  Sentient

Yeah ok but would involve a time bridge.

Even if a a specific arrangement was made it would be a Phone number close and a “cooling off period” where she gets to say where she’s going to the “board of directors” at work and they put in their opinion.

I had hoped for the straight escalation without those potential pitfalls.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

So then be there close to closing time when you make the suggestion.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient “I have an 18 yo in sight that is totally up for it.” I had one of those about a decade ago and my female MD at the time said “don’t do it, she’ll fall in love with you”. Everything else aside and apart from the fact I should have done it, it might be a bit close to home for that. Some waif on your doorstep weeping and wailing. “And a couple of ” entanglements” from last winter kinda sorta raising up in the back yard. Both situations girls have been asking around about me such that it’s… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Interesting Ran into an acquaintance today. He looked a bit haggard. Great guy. 6″, trim, athletic, fun, former frat guy, now successful money manager. 34 or so. Has two kids under 4. A house in a great spot. His wife is a solid 7.5… great face. Great body, bounced back quick after the kids. I ask him if he has corona. He says no other stuff and eventually spills he isn’t living at home and they are splitting up. Don’t get into details with him, but looking back… Always caught a little glint in her eye. Was 50/50 over the… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

He needs to start shoring up his defences and take a stance. If she leaves the door is right there. But the kids are staying put. He also needs to start liquidating any assets that he has that he could loose in the divorce and start hiding them or setting up a family trust with the kids and himself as a beneficiary.

Get some advice from an accountant that can advise him in this situation

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed. This may be relavant , MAP male asset protection. Since witnesing my father and many other men getting stripped of the ability to provide while at the same time being orderd to by the court I’ve been sympathetic. They take away driving and hunting privelege as well come back years later attaching bank accounts for welfare fraud comited by the mother that both sells property hides the funds and collects aid from the state. then the man cant pay and as he gets back on his feet wham he has his funds taken or frozen by the… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

The really Machiavellian thing to do
Is check out mentally.

Then, with that mindset it’s easier to turn round the marriage.

So turn it round.

Once you have done that then getting wiped out plus off the table. You can move on to taking what you want when you want it.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

This

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
2 years ago

I’ve been listening to Kevin Samuels on Youtube – completely red-pilled black image-consultant who tells it pretty raw. Pretty entertaining. I listen to him mostly because of my interests in black girls but don’t think his content is completely black-specific and can be useful to all. I see a lot of what he says is pretty spot-on.

I listen to him at 1.5 speed…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

@Sentient / HABD So riddle me this. Part posted at WIA I’m seeing plate and banging her 3-4 times a week for last 2-3 months. She shows up and we get it on then we either get wine at pub or she leaves / goes home. We do all the usual games – domination / rough sex etc.. the rougher the better she likes it. All good. Last night she shows and we hit the sack, clothes off and on bed but she’s fighting hard back physically and isn’t letting me progress. Fighting back, clamping legs together biting etc.. and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma why has the whole episode left me completely and utterly cold towards her. I mean it’s a NADA. I’ve lost total interest. It’s gone, I have no interest in “that” role play whatsoever. Quite simple really. She’s just trying to “top from the bottom” and it hits a nerve with you. If you went ahead the sex – the rough “dominant” sex – would all still be in HER frame. You like to dominate, not be told to dominate. It’s going to be hard to work that into her rape fantasy. One angle is try and really break her… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago
Reply to  Sentient

I think she’s pretty much totally in my frame and looking at it with your analysis this was a last hurrah for her self defence mechanism trying to retain some hand.

Basically she’s fallen in with feelz and is just gonna totally submit and she’s scared of it.

Quite easily handled really, is she pushes back again I’ll throw her out. And tell her if she’s good enough she might – just might get her girlie fantasy. When I decide.

Then I’ll go to the pub.

Thanks

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 years ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@PalmaSailor @Sentient / HABD So riddle me this. Part posted at WIA I’m seeing plate and banging her 3-4 times a week for last 2-3 months. She shows up and we get it on then we either get wine at pub or she leaves / goes home. We do all the usual games – domination / rough sex etc.. the rougher the better she likes it. All good. Last night she shows and we hit the sack, clothes off and on bed but she’s fighting hard back physically and isn’t letting me progress. Fighting back, clamping legs together biting etc..… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

So now I am confused… she was trying to induce something she didn’t actually want, or using that to induce what she did actually want?

Either way, I thought it was the right move to shut it down at the time and not give her either type of sex.

She was angry as fuck with the morning sex

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 years ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@PalmaSailor i had the feeling i should have explained better…lol… the ‘not really want it’ meant that from your POV a rape fantasy appears as she doesn’t want any sex at all… and will fight you to avoid that happening… = the opposite of desire sex… So now I am confused… she was trying to induce something she didn’t actually want, or using that to induce what she did actually want? SHE is doing what she does based on her feelings… ie unconsciously… and is trying to solve a problem… sooo, when she gets the feelz and tries to get… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

@HABD ‘not really want it’ meant that from your POV a rape fantasy appears as she doesn’t want any sex at all… and will fight you to avoid that happening… = the opposite of desire sex… Well.. I knew she wanted sex BUT the thing is that I only have sex on my terms. If they try to dominate or call shots I shut down. Standard saying is “my bedroom my rules”; but it’s actually any bedroom my rules. Since I’ve understood the difference between desire sex and transactional sex I lose wood if I sense a transaction, and it’s… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Palma

give me a crisp > hold my bag > buy me a drink > eat my pussy > rape me…

Just a progression right? lolz

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 years ago

@PalmaSailor So I’m sitting outside the bar and bought a beer and abag of crisps, there’s a woman next to me and she’s seen my bag of crisps. She’s with 2 white knight chumps, she says “can I have a crisp, it’s for my dog” I say “no” She rambles some shit, “she can’t afford her own” and I ignore. Her and the chumps are astonished. They shit test everywhere in every direction don’t they. Frantically pinging for a hard boundary. can you think of a better way for a girl to ping for AF (or BB provisioning for that… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

And so you should not have to. She might want to go through the rape shit fantasy but I see this as dangerous ground for setup etc. as she says no but means yes…. next time she says no confuses the situation and opens you up to charges. To hell with that you took the right path IMHO.

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

Update: N=3 was all confused and wanting some space. On part 1 of that particular talk I still grabbed her hand took her to bedroom, banged her and it was very good (probably increasing her confusion). The next day after that we get to part 2 because she hadn’t said all she wanted and basically wound up asking about exclusivity. I could see where this was going and I go like “mine or yours” and she was super hesitant in replying. After a bit of “help” from me, she does go “mine” and eventually winds up admitting she is attracted… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

N=3… And now that I had some time to process the reveal, what I want to do (but probably should not do) is to stress that while attraction is not a choice, what you choose to do with it is. But that is likely a DLV. It was quite obvious, even explicit, that a great deal of the conflict is that she wanted permission and was feeling “trapped” by it not being non-explicit that we are non-exclusive. What I want to do is to tell her that I don’t mind her feeling attracted, but I do mind if she does… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

@IAS I’ll read it in more detail over cofvefee but this sticks out: “What I want to do is to tell her that I don’t mind her feeling attracted, but I do mind if she does fuck someone else… But it is probably a mistake.” Firstly, bang her hard and totally own her, preferably tie her to the bed etc.. Secondly, tell her that she and Mr. T look like a great couple and she should marry him, you’ll give her away at the wedding. Then, bang her again. Lastly charge Mr.T rent for the space he’s taking up in… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

@Palma: thanks for the help. I was spinning my hamster. It is funny how the “instinct” I have (although I knew better) is exactly the opposite of what I should do. Fortunately I managed to keep it in. My plan is to invite her over when she returns (it will be near her ovulation). I had been some specific sexual ideas before. I’ll try to go mostly silent during her holidays. Complete silence would be outside my previous behavior with her so can appear butt hurt. Then when she is about to return I’ll provoke her a bit, and invite.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago
Reply to  IAS

IAS +100 to Palma’s advice. Part of spinning plates and realizing that most of them are going to drift off to test you and try and force commitment. Part of keeping plates exclusive to you is being the guy who realizes this and is unthreatened by this. DiCaprio mindset son. Now to your feewings… 1st your true initial instinct is to kill this rival right? Deep down. Don’t try and package that I to something else. Be in touch with it. 2nd. This is all about your ego. Hypergamous sifting has occurred and you’ve been sorted. The potential for this… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

The path to bring her back around is to increase intensity with her hotter friends and let that get back to her. “I can’t believe you’ve given up IAS” they say…

I’d just go no contact unless she is contacting you and then be brief until she comes back around to ” see how your doing”…

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
2 years ago

Hi guys, just wondering if you can read this comment since I can only still read them via email-notifications. Short update: The text game works pretty well (thanks to Sentient’s ping-technique). As with every activity, as you tear down one wall, you see several more up, like my heavy problems with kino. I realized them at the last two dates, where once I did no kino and on the other one did it in a wrong way. However, as one plate falls, new ones can be set up. (is this even correct English?) Many thanks to you all, your work… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

@IAS Stop spinning over it. It was just a slip of frame, like stepping into quicksand. The societally approved approach is to struggle to get out, its second nature, but if you do that you just sink faster. Actually you need to stop moving. You still feel the need to respond to all the shit she says when in fact you can just ignore 99% of it. It’s sooo deep seated that almost all of us still slip up. I slipped up yesterday. Bc of the current nonsense you have to queue for coffee, so I am and there’s only… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

Testing last attempt

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

@Palma: many thanks. You had my back when I got N=3 and you had my back now. Update: she pinged me for my schedule, told me hers. I kept mine and she comes home almost 2 hours earlier to allow for it to happen… I get there, acted like usual, proceed to get her to suck me until I’m really hard then bang her in the bum. No talk about feeling “confused” or “trapped” at all, she is all smiley and caring. Verdict: It was a massive compound shit test and I passed. I had been slipping and she almost… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

IAS

Verdict: It was a massive compound shit test and I passed.

Nice…

Speaking of shit tests Palma

Mother said “hmmm.. what are you going to do now”.

There it is… The socially unacceptable thing would be to say “we’ll I’ll let you join me” and sit (if that was possible).

Nonamenumber1.

Who dis?

Do you have any tips on how to learn calibrated kino?

How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

Praaaaaactice!

https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/vhie130501/16768511-vindicarloescalationladder

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kmZa-dtruFI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=csnQWDPD9Ps

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

I’m a huge huge fan of early lino and strong boyfriend posture lino. Nothing seperates you from an AFC or nice guy faster than lino with strong eye contact. Yes it’s “risky”… Lol That’s the point. You have to take the shot and be prepared to roll off if if you get a string negative reaction. But that may also just be a shit test… See how that works? So early in the convo touch her arm to make a point, use the back of your hand… Or when she tells you her name shake her hand and hold just… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xy4FXhkm6Nw

Lino 😂😂😂

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

@Sentient

Yeah. I knew it in real time.

Only a two seat table, one would have to have sat on my lap. That’s prob the line. “Hey that’s my table but if you can tell me a joke you can sit on my lap”.

She was a would not bang but the place was filled with would bangs and overtly passing the ST is commutative.

Anyway.. muh..

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
2 years ago

“The goal of lino is trust. Not arousal!!!” You can flick her ear for being cheeky. That way you can calibrate breaking societal taboo with the restraint that she’s hardly been touched. As an aside I’m in my local pub the other night and there’s a bloke mid 40’s, professional job etc.. and we’re chatting shit.. I leave bc he’s boring me and I limit my drinking. Next day, mid 20’s bar manager says to me: “do you know him?” I don’t and I say no. She’s like “god he was in tears last night telling me how I reminded… Read more »

Old Blue Dog
Old Blue Dog
1 year ago

Old guy here, can recommend an old movie to watch using the red pill lens, The Philadelphia Story, all the men except 2 put Hepburn on a pedestal, Cary Grant and the guy that plays her father. Would be very instructional for the younger folk.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Old Blue Dog

Don’t forget Uncle Willie …

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  Old Blue Dog

Just for a start:

The Maltese Falcon

Double Indemnity

The Big Sleep

Two John Wayne flicks: “The Quiet Man” and “McLintock” also educational.

Red Pill Dosed
Red Pill Dosed
1 year ago

Well, Fuck, Here is the short Married 19-20yrs 48 Children, girls, 12, 18. Usual trappings. Been through various rough spots. Always the threat of divorce has come up. Last time she brought it up.(3yrs approx) “I flatly said. It’s a free country. Door is there. But the girls and I are staying put.” Anyhow shit around the mortgage I caught her out redrawing on it and using it as a personal bank account… I called her on it and it immediately became a feels over reals. I pulled that up and gave the facts. (Being mindful of the Gynocentric Blue… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Red Pill Dosed

@Red Pill Dosed If you still want to bang her then this can be changed round but it requires a mindset change which is counterintuitive and takes quite a lot of balls. The fact you’re calling her out on it means you haven’t entirely been pussified by her and it’s not as bad as you think. We can talk through it here but there is also a book on game by heartiste that I’ve just got the paperback of (bc I think they’ll ban it) which has a specific section on it about turning round long term relationships. It’s a… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@PalmaSailor

Thanks for the advise. I have not been cowtowing to the BS she is dishing out at the moment. Will look into it further and deal with it.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Red Pill Dosed

Here is a link to a great comment from Agent P

https://therationalmale.com/2016/10/13/case-study-mitchs-purple-pill/comment-page-7/#comment-174751

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
1 year ago

RP Dosed

I was in much the same situation as you albeit a bit older. I didn’t know RP at the time so I just blew it up. It felt good and I’m living life more on my terms than before.
Sometimes I regret the blow up but what’s done is done and I own it.

The advice here is top-notch. (most) of these guys know what their talking about

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago

I’m taking it on board. Took the time today to clean out my wardrobe my older one who is in year 12. Asked. What are you doing. Wife was in ear shot, so I said. “Working out what I don’t need anymore.” The younger one has noticed the wife’s short temper… so I’m taking that opportunity to build stronger bonds with her. It is already solid but re-enforcement won’t hurt. My girls are what I do most of what I do. Not going to detonate anything right now. During previous communication with the wife she noted that the dynamic had… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

You’re actually doing very well so it’s not as far gone as you may think. The strongest position to be in from a self preservation And recovery point of view is where you have already checked out mentally. It looks like you might be there. You now have the options of recovering it on your terms which is her submitting to your frame, returning to the sweet submissive thing you married and cutting the attitude. Do that right and you’ll also get her Losing weight and initiating desire sex – which you may find impossible to believe right now. Or… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

I have to say that I never did easy. I guess a little background on me would help with context. As a 5-6 year old growing up in a divorced house hold. (Mum fortunately never tried to poison us against my father). I would regularly get into fights in primary school. I was not popular and because I was determined to be me, It didnt fit in with the blue pill dogma that was in the system back 40 years ago. Even in high school I would be comming to the aid of my friends who were being picked on.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed Look. Passive aggressive shit like silent treatment is the stuff that causes her to seeth and despise you. The draw down was a mega shit test to get a response out of you. To shut her down. This I have a verbal from her saying that she is going to pay it back just not when. Is just lolz. The equivalent of “nothing physical happened” and “I was drunk”… Your going to hit her with feels? Good luck with that. You need another dose of red pill hoss. I’d lock down the account since she can’t be… Read more »

stuffin box
stuffin box
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed. Thats^ a pretty long screed. A few thoughts. The main takeaway from your school experience is that you were learning to be your own man aside from public opinion etc. This will be helpful in the restructuring of your relationship as this is what is required of men to go it alone while supporting others. The idea of divorce is to divorce yourself from her opinions , ideals , expectations and wants,then only take care of her needs as you are not technically divorced so the support of the mother of your children is beneficial to all.… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Red Pill Dosed

Cut off her access to the Mortgage drawdown.

When she kicks off about it Grab her by the hair, to the bedroom, push her face down in the pillow, and fuck her..

Don’t say anything to her.

Then put your clothes on and walk to your local bar for beer.

Get home at 5 smelling of some other woman’s perfume.

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago

First of @Sentient, @StuffinBox, @PalmASailor, thankyou for your feed back and input. Last night was another shit Test, The Wife turned around to me and said that she had a dream that I asked her for a divorce. I was in the middle of trying to sneeze when she finished the statement and it took about 10-seconds before I sneezed two or three times. After which I looked at her squarely and stated with a small grin. “You know that I am allergic to divorce.” @PalmASailor, Marital rape was criminalised in all Australian jurisdictions, starting with a partial criminalisation in… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Red pill dosed Yeah you are doing great. Just keep doing you. One thing to watch is your focus on the girls. That’s a point of leverage she can use at some point. The HEAT anology is walk in five minutes. The USUAL SUSPECTS anology is Kaiser Soze wiping out his family in front of the bad guys… Nothing has a hold on you. But it takes time to get there. It’s the equation that prevents zeroing out. 0 x 0 = 0. Now that said if you really want to get her brain take the girls for a drive… Read more »

Red Pill dosed.
Red Pill dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

While my focus is the Girsl I have a solid relationship with them and keep building on it when ever the wife is overtly harsh on them. The girls dont disrespect me. I am sure to stop that BS as soon as it looks to rear its head.

Stage 4 Lock Down in Victoria, Australia at the moment. Gotta Love the CCP virus that they unleashed.

I will keep it in mind for the near future.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Dosed

The girls dont disrespect me. I am sure to stop that BS as soon as it looks to rear its head.

Just remember your wife is just a girl too. Oldest teenager in the house is the saying.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

Field report day one Woke up this morning on boat and fucked about a bit checking diesel / sea cocks / rigging – getting soaking wet and filthy and with no water to shower or anything else so got in dinghy in yesterday’s clothes and rowed in to shore for cofvefee and breakfast. Wandered round town first thing and the only place open only does coffee and pancakes etc.. slim HB7 ish at least 5’8” (so taller then me) and about 35 is working. Bright red lipstick. Put my head through the door and asked if there was any chance… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Ha Love in the time of corona… This is how it’s supposed to be. Enjoy I’d have got her number first is the only change I’d make. A word on the “interrogation”… I think a lot of us can get a little to focused on women’s sorting mechanism… Not that we shouldn’t be aware of it but pay the “process” they go through less attention, give it less headspace. I’ve come to the conclusion they just act like beta males early in the interaction, and just roll through the seven deadly questions… All just threads for a master to weave… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient
Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago

That time capsule from Heartiste 7 years ago really takes me back. Especially the part where YaReally gets into it with King A Matthew King, lolzzz.

I notice that the comments nested at least 3 deep, too.

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@PalmaSailor good FR… looks like that boat is starting to pay off already…lol Field report day one Woke up this morning on boat and fucked about a bit checking diesel / sea cocks / rigging – getting soaking wet and filthy and with no water to shower or anything else so got in dinghy in yesterday’s clothes and rowed in to shore for cofvefee and breakfast. Wandered round town first thing and the only place open only does coffee and pancakes etc.. slim HB7 ish at least 5’8” (so taller then me) and about 35 is working. Bright red lipstick.… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@HABD / Sentient “one question… did you even think about hitting her up for a shower at her place?…lol…” I’ve only just got to the point where the switch has flipped and I see most of this stuff in real time as opposed to after the event. After the last two dog girls I just seem to see it now. I don’t know what flipped the switch. I didn’t intend the phone number as a compliance test (but obv it had that effect), I just thought “if you want it come and get it, I’m not chasing” plus I know… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

“(betas get stuck in the interrogation as the process… = as if the interrogation itself will lead to happytime… bc they assume she is attracted bc she is asking questions about them… and if they answer all the questions, they’ll get laid…)”

Yeah .. but no.. she’s asking questions because she’s looking for reasons to exclude. She’s trying to smash it and see if it breaks and if you “comply” then you fail.

You’re better off ignoring ALL of them than answering any.

Red Pill dosed.
Red Pill dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Single parent…. partner has the kids, Either one she is looking to let her hair down and enjoy abit while the kids are with the father. The good thing is that it looks like 50/50 share so means that she is not a Tomi. Kids are 6 and 8. so she had them at 27. The clock was ticking, hamster was running and wall was approaching. Popped the kids out. Divorced the father. Revenue for the kid support in place. CHECK Inviting two friends around to the boat….. I am immediatly suspicisous…. “one has big tits!” “Commander Ackbar: “Its a… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Red Pill Dosed Single parent…. partner has the kids, Either one she is looking to let her hair down and enjoy abit while the kids are with the father. [So there’s the forebrain and the hindbrain. The hindbrain overrules the forebrain and she doesn’t know it. She didn’t know why she picked red lipstick (she’s ovulating) and that means she’s more drawn to men on the basis of r selection RIGHT NOW. which is why I should have hit on her that night. By Friday that could all have changed. The forebrain did consciously think she’s got a bit of… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Put the beer in a sturdy bag and in the water if it is cold. That should cool it down enough. For you 52, divorced, then yeah, go for it. I said “wide birth” as she is divorced, 2 kids… but that said… who am I to talk…. if you can bang her…. I read somewhere that banging younger women is good for your health. I’m based in Australia, Duluth model is squarely in place. Common for women with one kid or two to get another man on the hook to be a father paying child support. Alienate the father… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago

Lulz. I’m on travel in a pseudo Tiki bar that serves food (local requirement) with a middle aged couple off to my right. She’s circling around “I put her in your car but…” and he’s doing a lot of kino with “eh, it doesn’t matter, really” while she gives him a side eye but keeps on rubbing his leg under the bar as if no one can see. I notice all this stuff because of years reading here, reading @ old Heartiste, reading West Indian Archie, reading some of YaReally. And it’s just amusing. Oh, here we go — “No… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

Field report So back to the other restaurant with the 40 y/o that I didn’t fully write up. They do a better breakfast than sausage girl. Arrive about 9, and she doesn’t serve me, a different girl does, and in fairness she doesn’t actually see me. She comes over mid way for a chat and lets drop that she has an 8 month old baby, and a yacht but isn’t doing much sailing at the moment bc baby. I say “ha ha, you only need four hours sleep what’s the matter with you? lol..” All finished and I’m ready to… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@HABD Ref local barmaid ouch!…lol… put into the friend zone… she’ll remember you for sure…lol I’ve had reported back that she’s gone and bought one on her own and that the mast has snapped before she got it home. Thats actually a super rare thing to happen. She must have bought a pig. Strong independent feminist that she is lol… “if you know what you are looking at, that sh*t’s everywhere…lol… and it’s ramping up every time i’m out somewhere… and not subtle at ALL…lol that’s one of my indicators of how i can tell the system is actually being… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago

@PalmaSailor @HABD Ref local barmaid ” I’ve had reported back that she’s gone and bought one on her own and that the mast has snapped before she got it home. Thats actually a super rare thing to happen. She must have bought a pig. Strong independent feminist that she is lol…” her hindbrain was/is still hoping you will bail her out…lol It isn’t just me then. nope… but you have to be able to SEE what is right in front of you… most people can’t directly see reality… it’s just too scary… = psychic self-defense… their heads would explode…lol **Obviously… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@HABD Typical, they built a dam in a straight line. All the pressure on the back needs to be resisted in a single opposing dimension, ie an opposing force. If they’d built it concave, (I haven’t done the math but possibly parabolic), then the force on the back, would have been greatly transferred laterally. Buuut.. some chicom senior said “we need a dam across there” and no one argued. My first thought was that It would have taken roughly(pi x d)/2 times the concrete, but a semi spherical shape would have had such a superior integrity that it may even… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Here’s a couple of 20th century dams in the US.

Theodore Roosevelt in Arizona is called an “eggshell” dam because of its shape.
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Flaming Gorge in Wyoming is similar but a less radical curve
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I kinda suspect that whoever was in charge of inspection in China was also in charge of construction. Not that China is corrupt or anything.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

The eggshell dam is also relatively slim and delicate, which was made possible because of the strength the shape gave it. it has a beautiful curve.

That guy in Wyoming was a poof though. Didn’t have the courage of his convictions.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@HABD / Sentient “ouch!…lol… put into the friend zone… she’ll remember you for sure…lol” That was seven days ago and it’s been no contact. She had a bit of a stamp of her feet. Now this text interaction which I need to avoid sliding into save – a – ho. No mention of her new boat or any problems, but it could easily slide. Bc @Sentient is pissed I didn’t properly deal with sausage girl, I’m gonna hit this one just so I can continue to show my face in here. Text convo today, I’m not gonna be local for… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma

What happened with the Friday night thing? She and her friends?

From this thread it seems she is already into you so isn’t going to banter too much… You have too much value.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient Nothing happened Friday. She had my number but never used it. Got a coffee Saturday am bc she’s got the only place open and she tried to engage on something or other but I was busy reading stuff I needed to check out so I didn’t engage. From her conversation with other member of staff she didn’t do anything Friday night. “From this thread it seems she is already into you so isn’t going to banter too much… You have too much value.” Interesting. I threw out 3x sexualisation and she ignored all 3. And I thought that =… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Yep. You just have to lead and set it up.

Guys like us like the sassy banter and all, lots of fun, so you lose that with these types. Can he a bit boring.

But if she’s hot…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Ok

In the meantime this with the nurse

https://imgur.com/a/bWH5xwd

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

So here…

She’s tries what two or three times to get you to come over…?

Then keeps the thread going asking about stuff your doing… Compliments your skill…

Offers up spare paint…

I think she self deprecates on the playing with yourself thing…

IDK seems ripe to get together. Issue will be logistics with her kids.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Sentient So here “She’s tries what two or three times to get you to come over…?” Honestly I only saw the first pass, and still can’t see the second / third “Then keeps the thread going asking about stuff your doing… Compliments your skill…” Didn’t see that at all, but yes “Offers up spare paint…” Didn’t recognise that for what it was “I think she self deprecates on the playing with yourself thing…” Yes. But I didn’t see it in real time. I think she plays with herself a lot. Thinking about what/who exactly 😒 “IDK seems ripe to get… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Is this the 35 yo with the red lipstick? The bacon sandwich? I thought she had kids. 1st offer the breakfast beer. 2nd brunch… 3rd was a “I’m all alone here” Gambit. Sometimes we are looking past everything for the shit test / angle and blow past openings. Happens, especially if you are used to reving up banter etc. Reminds me a a 30 yo is a sexless marriage, had FR on her a bit back. Basically saw her at breakfast a quick chat and a bit of lino, she asked what I’m up to told her I’ll be at… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

No it’s the 24 yo local bar manager who bought a boat. The one I drove around with and bought one in the end with a broken mast

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Ah. My mistake. With that context it does look more like FZ. But you can still bust out. You’ve not really made a move on this one.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed Last night was another shit Test, The Wife turned around to me and said that she had a dream that I asked her for a divorce. I was in the middle of trying to sneeze when she finished the statement and it took about 10-seconds before I sneezed two or three times. After which I looked at her squarely and stated with a small grin. “You know that I am allergic to divorce.” Well that could have been handled better… She was testing and you ended up failing by giving her some reassurance… That YOU are ellergic… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Red Pill Dosed Firstly – I didn’t say rape. And I wouldn’t advocate that. So if she says “no” then you stop. If you do it properly then she’ll badger you for sex. But, in the scenario I suggested, she has a lot of of opportunity to call a halt and say no. My point is, if you acted sufficiently dominant and went for what you wanted, she probably wouldn’t say no bc what she actually desires is for you to take the lead and own the relationship and set boundaries. So. If you did what I said with confidence… Read more »

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Redpill dosed +1000 on palma and sentients take on this. A few suggestions Learn to maximize the use of your balls. Make and store testosterone to maximum capacity,till you are waking up with a raging boner every morning that is got your balls crawling all the way up the shaft. till you are in roid rage from your own juices and are using self control to keep from violence or shouting. Get horny enough to desire what you have. Quit looking at the stage 4 lockdown as limiting and start looking at it as an opportunity. Figure out what is… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

“Last night was another shit Test, The Wife turned around to me and said that she had a dream that I asked her for a divorce.”

** actually thinking about it, that’s projection. She’s planing to divorce you.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

*** where did the mortgage drawdown go anyway? Her own account somewhere?

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@PalmASailor, @Sentient, @stuffinbox Well Looks Like I have a hell of a lot more to learn and change. @PalmASailor From my audit of the Loans ingoings and outgoings, The payments were going to her bank acount and also to one credit card. (I have visibility on the card spend as I am also a joint holder. I dont use it as I manage my funds. She use to have more than just the one till I cracked the shits and she had them cancelled. Does she have more that I dont know about? Unknown. As mentioned there have been amounts… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Red Pill Dosed “But grabbing her by the hair and dragging her to the room… this would be so out of character for me.” I’ll make a small adjustment and re read it: “But providing a strong and dominant framework that she feels totally safe and secure in… that would be so out of character for me” If you look back at the text exchange between me and the woman I’m seeing she says “Fuck I’ve missed your cock this week” It’s not true. She hasn’t missed my cock, she thinks that she’s missed it but she hasn’t. What she’s… Read more »

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed. ^ this from Palma^ is pure gold^ pay attention!!!!! There is a constant barrage of women=> men that becomes 2nd nature. This could be why you are offended by her competition (your hobbies) anxiety, you see it as a threat or a diss. What it is ,her solipsism sees competition for dadys time. She believes she is entitled to complain. Complaints go up the chain of command not down. There seems to be a feature where women get a dopamine rush for windfall profit. Taking money out of the kitty and putting it where she can spend… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

I took what you have been saying on board. I failed another shit test at the table. She asked why I “..make so much noise when I get up and then dont even say good bye.” (Fact is that I am quiet as can be) I replied with “Thought you didnt want me to say good bye…” Like I said I failed it and I knew it as soon as I spoke the words. IT got me angry and riled. I kept my shit together and kept thinking on the best way to deal with the BS. Later on that… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

Ahh man, you’re not getting it – someone else is gonna have to step in And try to get through to you but just the first thing: “She asked why I “..make so much noise when I get up and then dont even say good bye.”” Possible answers: 1) ignore 2) say “fuck off” 3). Because the food you cook gives me chronic wind (you smirk) 4) What are you talking about, shut your legs and stop fanny farting.. (smirk again) 5) belch and fart loudly again and say “you know you love it” and ignore everything she says after… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

As I mentioned. I knew I screwed the pooch on that Shit test. That is a given.

Curious on your take on the rest.

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed. “I failed another shit test at the table. She asked why I “..make so much noise when I get up and then dont even say good bye.” Could the reason be that you are pussy footing around? “(Fact is that I am quiet as can be)” Maybe you should act as if it is your house and quit tippytoing,just make the normal noise. Leave the toilet seat up and leave yor stuff around more, hang up your pictures ect. “Later on that night, (I could not work out the best way to bring up the points so)”… Read more »

SJF
SJF
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

“Ahh man, you’re not getting it – someone else is gonna have to step in”

I could step in and comment, as I have a lot of experience in this realm.

If I weren’t blocked by Rollo, after commenting for five years.

SJF
SJF
1 year ago
Reply to  SJF

Well, my phone works. I doubt my computer IP addresses do.

And I’m not making a long-winded SJF comment on my phone…

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago

@Red Pill Dosed

name three girls in your weekly ‘routine’ that are hotter than your wife… and that you would like to secks up…

simple question…

good luck!

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

No I dont street race but I do have a number of repair manuals for celica’s, hard copy and also digital what I refer to when someone in one of the FB forums needs some advise on a busted bit on their celica. I know enough to replace rotor discs and brake pads on cars. Oil Change etc. If I can you tube it I can work my head around most stuff. I was also getting back into martial arts as well before the covid shit kicked in. I have some Sai that I practise with. The 5 swords are… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Stuffinbox (wahoo?)

“Taking money out of the kitty and putting it where she can spend is a rush for her like the day before her birthday.”

I’ve not properly thought this through but as well as being a shit test, I think that constantly buying “little bits of shit” ie “stuff” is filling up the void in her life which should be occupied by a secure anchor.

She’s spending on constant shit as a proxy for “security”

Boulderhead
Boulderhead
1 year ago

PalmaSailor, Ya stuffinboxboulderheadwahoomcdanielswahoo I worked as casino security for a while. This requires constant profiling. Women gamble differently than Men. Women account for the biggest head count in a casino, they’re more apt to play pure chance games (slots ,raffles ,lottery ) than games of choice (table games,keno,machine poker). Women are sexually turned on by these slot machines and are constantly looking at men while they (the women) are playing. Men will be more drawn to games of choice ( blackjack ,poker,keno) where they can change the odds. Dopamine is released in the thrill of the chase for Men for… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Red Pill Dosed I’m going to be otherwise occupied for a few days but I’m stumped as to how to get you any further bc you can’t see it. You should reply to @HABD bc he probably has spotted a thread to pull that will get you closer to seeing it: “name three girls in your weekly ‘routine’ that are hotter than your wife… and that you would like to secks up…” So name them. In the meantime there’s other things you haven’t answered like what you’re doing during that hour of permitted exercise (I suspect nothing) and the odd… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@HABD, @PalmASailor, @Sentient, @StuffInABox Thank-you for your input. To be clear I bought the car because I wanted it. For me it had to be a manual, had to be a Celica. I used to drive one previously before marriage, family, house etc. The fact that the wife could only drive an Auto didn’t come into the equation. She wanted me to get an auto. She wanted our daughter to learn in an auto. I flat out told her no on both points. The day before I was due to pick up the car which was 890km (about 553miles) away… Read more »

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed.

You are on the defensive,here and at home. We all want to give you an attaboy buuut you don’t get one for blowing shit out of proportion.

Have you called your mom lately?

Red Pill Dised.
Red Pill Dised.
1 year ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

@stuffinbox I didn’t think I was under attack here. Just pointed questions being asked and advise being supplied to assist me to shake off the shackles of Gyncentricism. Since I have had it out and called the missus out on the numerous things that I have previously let slide (I know that is on me with weak frame, etc). Things in general are better. No shit tests I could pick on. Concerning other women, while I notice other women and admire their beauty. There has been opportunities, definately. I don’t Perdue them. Personally for me from a marriage vows view… Read more »

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Red Pill Dised. I see what you did there. “I didn’t think I was under attack here. Just pointed questions being asked and advise being supplied to assist me to shake off the shackles of Gyncentricism.” Shake em off. Rule 1 dont take anything personal. “Since I have had it out and called the missus out on the numerous things that I have previously let slide (I know that is on me with weak frame, etc). Things in general are better. No shit tests I could pick on.” It’s been a whole 24 hrs with no ST’s? HT you shook… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago

@PalmaSailor Red Pill Dosed then go do something else. That one hour of exercise for instance, but drag it out to three hours and don’t take your watch / phone / timekeeping device with you so plausible deniability about the hour turning into three. the FI is cunning AND pervasive… you don’t need plausible deniability at any time… and it works better if you just ignore her trying to impose her frame on you… and this ties into the name the 3 girls exercise… The 3 women question. There are three at work. But since lockdown. They have not been… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago

PSA…

i was worried for a while that the commie insurgency here (in the us) was gaining traction (it was…)… but here’s an update on the soon to be collapse of that insurgency… it usually takes a while to process through buuut…

the mocking has started…lol…

and once that inflection point is reached, it’s really hard for an insurgency to pivot back to ‘we’re scary and dangerous!!!’…lol… (not impossible but it’s exponentially difficult…)

pretty good too…

and props to the Kenosha Kid…lol

and released about a DAY after the shooting… THAT’S some fast turn-around for a parody…lol

good luck!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@HABD

“the mocking has started…lol…”

The shit test has been dealt with by “reducing to absurdity” huh?

“and once that inflection point is reached, it’s really hard for an insurgency to pivot back to ‘we’re scary and dangerous!!!’…”

Well once someone laughs at you, you’ve either got to piss or take your pot home and…….

So that’s why the lefty / woke brigade are trying to shut down humour so aggressively. Once everyone is laughing at them it’s over.

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago

To the tune of Bohemian Rapsody by QUEEN. My own parody… Rittenhouse Rapsody Is this the real life? This is just Anarchy Black Lives Matter RIOTS They lost grip on reality Open your eyes Look up all the lies and see I’m just a poor boy, I need no sympathy Because I’m easy come, easy go Aim little high, little low Anyway the crowd goes, doesn’t really matter to me, to me Mama, just killed a man Aimed a gun towards his head Pulled my trigger, now he’s dead Mama, he was a paedophile And now I’ve gone and blown… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@HABD

^^ what he would say to her didn’t even cross my mind, I was thinking of what he’d say to the judge if he found himself there bc of over zealous law enforcement.

Being a judge is pinnacle blue pill “game”

IAS
IAS
1 year ago

@Everyone: advice wanted… An interesting logistics situation sort of landed on my lap. I offered a place to stay to a couple (M-F) who will be visiting from another city, on their camper van. I’m friends with them, closer to the guy. Some other people from that city’s social circle are also joining (without a camper van) so the guy basically suggests “Target M and Target R could stay with you? You get along well with Target M.” Indeed, we get along well and she is quite frisky so I’m fine with that. I don’t know the other one. Target… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  IAS

Damn lost my comment. Anyhow – have to lolz. This is the N1 guy now planning foursomes. With identical twins yet! [Tips hat] What’s your interaction with M been? One possible weakness in your plan is by designating a bed you telegraph interest. Maybe just say something like “you’ll figure it out” and leave it open. Otherwise… You have a captive audience. Game on. Be your sexy self, work those jealousy plot lines and any preselection and above all when the time comes lead lead lead… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RlOcas4K61c To the victor the spoils… Also have plenty of easy drinking wine on… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@IAS Don’t labour the sleeping arrangements, just tell them all to “bring a sleeping bag or something” – like you haven’t given it any thought… As sentient said – get some wine in, and don’t underestimate their capacity, most women can down a bottle and it won’t touch the sides, so three bottles and get it cold. Also get some stuff in like strawberries that you can cook (flambe) late night with some vanilla ice cream. So you need some brandy and sugar as well. Give you an excuse to bounce from Mr. T’s – “I’ve got some desert at… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 year ago

@IAS

+1 to the previous comments.

Also, don’t limit your options to bed/bedroom. It happens where it happens… 😉

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Red Pill Dosed looks like a sock puppet with intent to take down the TRM. My vote is ban her.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

Pfffft… 🙄

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

@StuffInBox
Sorry but didn’t understand what you were getting at.

Earlier in Relation to Red Pill Dised… it was a typo on my end. But it happens….

As a quick update. Things in the house are definitely better. I feel more in control than being manipulated. (IE being a simp).

Again thank you for the input/ feedback etc.

I haven’t been challenged with any further shit tests.

I will keep in mind the 3 rules And maintain the control.

Ignore:
Reduce To Absurdity:
Agree And Amplify:

I know that there is more to it but this is a start.

IAS
IAS
1 year ago

@Everyone: Update. Twin sister not coming for now (maybe joins later on the weekend but not to my place). Target M and Target R are not staying at my place after the party. 2-set is trickier. Anyway… First night, lots of sex related talk with both of them. I’m laying in the guest bed with the 2 of them and such. Target R is more “accidentally touching” me at times when I’m in the middle of them talking about whatever, some eye contact with both etc. Got to massage Target M (started just before Target R went for her shower),… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 year ago

@IAS

Lots of windows and no walls. Why no leading? Push it forward until you sense a wall, then solve that puzzle.

What if R simply gave you some space to close M?

They’re waiting for you to lead. How will a sleepover with a topless massage look like after the fact? Ghey friend. Don’t disappoint them. You CAN bang one at a time lol.

Why are you holding back?

Go on you sexy beast.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  IRL

Concur…

Sometimes you get in your head a strategy or a way to go about something and you try and fit everything into that paradigm… And miss what is happening in front of you.

Also a bush in the hand is worth two… Elsewhere.

You could have escalated on topless M while the other was in the shower?

“Turn over”…

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Great red pill movie – Latin Lovers (1953)

They knew what was up then.. including the sham of therapy (lol)… worth watching, especially the grandfather. Great lines.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@IAS You know these things need to be led. Both of those women could have been sat there in that room thinking “damn I want to get fucked by @IAS while [other girl] is sucking my nipples and fingering my arse” The reddit forums are full of women that can hardly control their urge for sex and are lusting after men in the street. Buuuuuut dammit, they’re not gonna say it are they, and they just WILL NOT bust a move, that’s your job Charlie Brown! There should have been an escalation when one left the room, then the escalation… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

So bored and out for dinner on my own I never get caught in the HB rating hamster wheel but this waitress was a solid 9, and no kidding. She had the run of the place, but no real self esteem, and no plan in life at all. Challenged her to tell me a joke, which was a no way, she didn’t know one, so she went off to ask the others and they didn’t know one either. Just posting here for observations really. I went cold on it when the age came up = same as my son, but… Read more »

stuffinbox
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

What do you call a L1 tip for a bar wench that is going to law school?

A quid pro quo.

IAS
IAS
1 year ago

@Everyone: Update on the sleepover targets. I didn’t close, and that night was pretty much the opportunity. You are of course right, there were windows. In hindsight (and after further interaction with both in other days), Target R was the correct target and I set up the wrong order in the showers as I should have had isolation with her instead of with Target M. Still, I had the opportunity to attempt a make-out with Target M and if I get shot down so be it; and I didn’t go for it. Some small technical details I could have done… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@IAS

Meh.. the world is full of women.. cut yourself some slack and hit another couple.

Wondering
Wondering
1 year ago

I got some really good advice here, when I had a ONEitis about one girl some months ago. I know this isn’t a field report, but which lecture would you recommend, aside from Rollo’s books? I have: All three books of Rollo (++) Neil Strauss – The Rules of the Game (+) Carl Adaugeo’s Gendernomics – Building Value (+++) Models – Attract Women through honesty (purple stuff) (+) Tripp Kramer – Magnetic (purple, but not that bad) (+) Bruce Bryans – What wome want in a man (++) Jim Wolfe – The happiest man in Hollywood (maybe this is purple,… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  Wondering

Agree with Palma and Sentient on Mystery.

Then go and make 100 approaches. It’s not difficult to do even wearing a mask, if that’s required in your zone.

Do not overthink.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@wondering

Theres game by heartiste that’s worth a look.

Apart from that, depending on your desired outcome you may be falling into the trap of too much reading, not enough doing.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

You should read Mystery Method. Other than that I’m with Palma. You’ve covered all the reading how is the real world going?

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Lol

At a spot where there used to be an early 20s flirty girl. Asked where she’s been. They say she is back at school. I’m thinking college. They say no she’s 15 she’s back in high school… 🏫

Some lucky high school guys…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@HABD / Sentient / others So my son has been more and more engaged since we’ve bought the boat. it’s been an eventful journey and I had to bring the boat back on the first leg on my own and I’ve been checking in with my son at various stages. First day was planned at about 8 hours sailing / 40 – 50 nautical miles sailing which is a heavy day single handed.. but anyway…. So the weather was scheduled to be good and 90% of the journey was brilliant until the last 10% when very bad weather moved in,… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Awesome man. And that really didn’t take long did it.

Re the boat – amazing how one little thing going wrong can set if a cataclysmic chain of events…

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

He probably sees his mom’s bs more clearly but still doesn’t want to rock the boat too much at home, so I’d avoid any situation where he’s forced to choose in the near term and just keep enjoying things and building that bond.

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Definately Keep the lines of communication open with your son. Let him know that you are there for him should he need you. Sounds like he has your contact number, email, etc. Children will always need their fathers. They also see the crap that goes on in the house and tend to work out, even if they dont feel they have a voice, who causes the problems. Keep the lines of communication open with your kids, always. The big thing that I have seen on some of the father divorced groups is the amount of misandry that is levelled at… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@PalmaSailor sorry to hear about your boating ‘adventures’…lol.. get that head injury looked into… concussions are not to be taken lightly… not kidding… puking is a symptom… and brain swelling is BAD… <— note the all CAPS… I finally get my location to them and I’m recovered, and towed back in to the marina that I was heading for. I arrive to rapturous applause from about 15 yachties stood at the dockside. It seems they get their fun from monitoring CH16.. and have turned out complete with a bottle of whisky (for me) to welcome [take the piss] out of… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Sentient

“He probably sees his mom’s bs more clearly”

It’s difficult to be more specific in this place but just turning up to the house It’s clear there’s stuff going on where she’s getting uptight about all sorts of minutiae.. / and I mean really uptight.

Stuff no one would get uptight about if they were getting laid properly and had a more whole view of life.

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Has your son been introduced to this site yet?

I think that he would probably benefit from it.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Red Pill Dosed “I think he would probably benefit from it” No he wouldn’t. He knows what a shit test is and I think he’s doing his own lurking around the manosphere. He’s sorted his diet and he’s lifting, plus I think he’s getting what he wants from girls right now so I’m going to taper him in. True understanding of their nature is too ugly for him to confront right now, he has to see some of the positives before the negatives, and he has to understand the “why” behind their nature in order to forgive them for it… Read more »

Red Pill dosed.
Red Pill dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Completely understand and respect your stance and reasoning. It sounds like you have imparted some knowledge to him verbally in any case. Which is as it should be from father to son.

Wishing you and yours the best for the future.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Palma Stuff no one would get uptight about if they were getting laid properly and had a more whole view of life. It always seems to come back to this. They need male attention and boundary setting and structure and leading. So my wife is in the big M now and between that and kid stuff and Covid propaganda has been bitchy this weekend. Classic meta shit test. So I just split yesterday for six hours at one of the places you can be and drink. Then watched the NHL game. Came back and she is “asleep”. She was furious… Read more »

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient
” A few hours later she is still tossing and it’s clear she’s trying to demonstrate she is “awake” …”

Yes I know that particular play from my wife…. I got jack of it and called her out on the shit and didnt let her wriggle out of fessing up on her shit. (Stuff that I had let slide for way too many years. Which was on me for being a limp dick, not willing to deal with confrontation).

Lesson I learned was if there is an issue confront them with it.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient “So my wife is in the big M now and between that and kid stuff and Covid propaganda has been bitchy this weekend.” Looking back, my wife was going through that as well and the shit testing accelerated very hard coinciding with that. “She was furious with me earlier I the day mind you.” Furious is good. Indifferent would be bad. As a side note pertinent to a conversation up thread which was in relation to women’s attraction to Alpha regardless of them being shit humans, @asa told me a story of a woman with her booooy friend on… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Sentient

“She was furious with me earlier I the day mind you”

Well.. that’s down to her. As long as you’re getting your cold beer!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

This guy posted a photo of himself on a billboard and got 1,000 applicants – hilarious!

Even funnier, some people were seriously angry at him…

https://www.reddit.com/r/EntrepreneurRideAlong/comments/ioegck/i_advertised_myself_on_a_billboard_to_get_dates/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Red Pill Dosed.
Red Pill Dosed.
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Good on him. I think it was a fantastic Idea. for all the reasons that he mentioned. Interestingly he also got a number of applicants from outside his state.

Thanks for the post. it was a good read.

Silent Bob
Silent Bob
1 year ago

@Palma

How’s Asa moving forward in RP life? Did he ever bed that Norwegian eventually?

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
1 year ago

Actual field report… I get the occasion hit from young women online but they rarely go anywhere. Most seem to get cold feet and run away after a while. So in the meantime I practice on young SBs and get my jollies in that way… Recently got a match on Hinge – a 25yo black girl (a bit heavier than what I like but what the heck – I’m 61). We joke around a bit about how she only wears black but in one of her photos she’s wearing a blue mask. So I say she needs a black one…… Read more »

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
1 year ago

Oh and congrats to Palma for finally getting results for his patience about his son. Good job!

My youngest daughter who’s 20 just never, never texts/calls me. But when we do meet up she’s great and funny. Hopefully one day she’ll hold up her end of the relationship.

IRL
IRL
1 year ago

@IAS

IRL asks why I was holding back – I’m pretty sure I have some fear of blowback to the social circle if I mess up.

If your goals don’t scare you, they’re not big enough, right?

Pretty sure at least Target R was quite horny and interested in me.

What’s the female equivalent of blue balls and dick in hand again? Lol

All good and fun, man.

IAS
IAS
1 year ago
Reply to  IRL

@IRL: It was good and fun and I’m pretty sure N=3 felt the pre-selection. I should have made a more deliberate move on Target R though. Next time she is around I’ll start from the beginning and see where I can take it. I’m happy that I’ve done two cold/warm approaches in the gym. This worried me more in the past as even though the gym is a semi-sexual zone, it isn’t a bar and I don’t want trouble at my gym. I opened them and number closed them. First was just passing by, the window was short and she… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 year ago
Reply to  IAS

@IAS I’m happy that I’ve done two cold/warm approaches in the gym. This worried me more in the past as even though the gym is a semi-sexual zone, it isn’t a bar and I don’t want trouble at my gym. I opened them and number closed them. First was just passing by, the window was short and she flaked (warning me that she couldn’t make it) on meeting on the same night and then she left the next day. Second was just this week but she is local, I’ll see if she shows up for an activity this week. Pulling… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 year ago

@DisgruntledEarthling I’m 61 Nice, I remember that. The basic problem now is proximity, especially in times of covid. Cold-approach in non-nightclub settings is the next mountain to cross… Sooo…. when are you building a system… where they come to you… with their friends… and you just choose the ones you want… because there are too many? lol Look at this in business terms. At the moment, you’re still a freelancer. You did quit your 9-5 slog (aka bluepill) and found a way to make money without the man. But your entrepreneurship hasn’t set you free. Your small business is still… Read more »

GrumpCat
GrumpCat
1 year ago

@IRL re: changing lifestyle…. yeah, that’s a tough one. I”m at retirement age and could in fact retire tomorrow but my software work pays too much to quit. That’s my dilemma – how much do I want to risk my future retirement compared to how much do I want to get laid. I do have plans to extend myself out of my 9-5 cubicle (working from home until at least January though). I’ve got a buddy with a sailboat who also resides in Thailand so I have the potential of working from there for up to 3 months at a… Read more »

IRL
IRL
1 year ago

@GrumpCat

How about something simple, like this (refined to your cool older guy style):
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/the-secret-to-forming-a-huge-social-circle-full-of-sexy-women-step-by-step.4671/

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
1 year ago

GrumpyCat is another log-in I used for other sites. Here, I’m still Disgruntled…

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
1 year ago

@IRL

I understand the premise – become a social party animal. That just seems a one-size-fits-all solution that doesn’t necessarily care over to most men. Hugh H didn’t overnight become surrounded by golddigging hoes. He built his empire starting in his 20’s.

I’m not sure becoming a party animal after a lifetime of being a cubile-drone is possible. There’s got to be a middle ground somewhere

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Disgruntled IRL is killing it… And you’re right there is a middle ground. But it still involves getting out and around girls as a first step then merging them into your social circle. Mystery called it Level Five game. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2bBk2gd1Kfk So for you a middle ground might be moving to an area with better access to things like coffee shops, yoga places, parks, cool bars and restaurants… Then LIVING your life with some purpose. Morning – go to the cool coffee place every day. Open the young hotties and just be cool and vibe. Don’t stress picking them up. You… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Disgruntled

“I’m not sure becoming a party animal after a lifetime of being a cubile-drone is possible. There’s got to be a middle ground somewhere”

That cubicle drone is in your head. Anything is possible, you don’t need “middle ground”

IRL
IRL
1 year ago

@DisgruntledEarthling I understand the premise – become a social party animal. Not quite. You see a party, I see a system. Ignore the high energy party element. Change the environment, make it all aligned with your own style. Keep it low key if you like. @Sentient gave you a great example. You could become a boudoir photographer for instance. Like this sexy super fit alpha stud Adam that gets girls to happily pose naked: https://www.adamnorton.com/gallery (spice it up with Attraction Comfort Seduction and voila) Specific methods and style are really up to you and limited by your imagination. The underlying… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Saw this her day. Really couldn’t believe it. Going through the park there is a couple taking pictures in front of a sculpture. Guy taking phone pics of a woman. Guy is 40’s muscular black dude. His T shirt – believe me – says “Alpha”… The woman is similar age, black woman, wearing some revealing top, no bra under, big hair. About 25 lbs overweight. Guy takes some clips, she goes and looks, some commentary ensues evincing displeasure on Madam’s part. She gets back to posing and he snapping, presumably with corrections made… I suspect these were to be used… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Honestly that shot is everywhere here. I went through a stage of photographing it but it’s so common I gave up on it.

Bloody boring in here, anyone getting hold of any women?

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Honestly that shot is everywhere here

In the “Alpha” T shirt? I did think of taking the pic, it was so perfect for an RT essay.

Bloody boring in here, anyone getting hold of any women?

Indeed. I’m really getting bored, still not normal here…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

I’m sat here right now:

https://imgur.com/a/7zm45n9

It should be absolutely banging but there’s Jack shit apart from the waitress….. and she’s not exactly target material

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

Bit of lite gossip from the politically influenced dating scene. It’s the same here that lefty women would presume that no one on the right wing could be attractive never mind dateable. Plus there’s been the assumption that they, the lefty women are the ones holding the “choice” card. But his guy flipped the script, he’s a Trump supporter and he’s dumped her bc she’s a democrat / lefty. Note she says she wouldn’t have dated him in the first place, but now… boohoo.. I don’t think those tears are for him, I think subconsciously she can’t reconcile that a… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

Harry and Meghan

Look at his body language… the ankle lock, he’s defensive.

https://order-order.com/2020/09/23/watch-meghan-and-harrys-us-election-intervention-tell-voters-to-reject-hate/#comments

He doesn’t speak for most of us over here

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Harry and Meghan

He doesn’t speak for most of us over here

These days he doesn’t even speak for himself.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago

Rimshot!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

Field report I get back to local pub at about 8pm after working on yacht to meet local friend I’ll refer to as “punchy” as he was amateur boxer (still trains and fights). For the heightists I’ll mention he’s about 5’3”. Punchy is the other shareholder in our yacht. He is a 62 y/o player, he doesn’t understand game or anything else but before he got his current gf (34), he had 6 plates so natural. It’s our local pub. He owns three businesses that are three adjacent shops directly opposite the pub. Including one “antique and odds and ends… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

PS.. we’re under 10pm “curfew” with enhanced “regulations” Some states are the same here in the US, plus some towns. You can have the Mayor of Whassup decide that normal is good but the County of Nowhere decides otherwise. Plus you can have the state governor decide everyone should go home and hide under the bed. For example: It’s pretty funny to walk into a food place with a full bar where all the staff are masked up but all the clientele are barefaced and you can’t proceed past the front door until some waitress has used what looks like… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago

@Anonymous Reader Rules and local lockdowns are changing by the minute here. Some devolved areas like wales literally have police road blocks stopping people going in and out. I’ve stopped reading the news, and I get my covid news from the nurse I’ve been seeing since lockdown in March. Last week there were three cases in hospital across three hospitals covering a large part of the region. That’s right 3! Two were not serious and one was but he was a lot older and had other issues. The one thing that is changing is that people that attend testing positive… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Some devolved areas like wales literally have police road blocks stopping people going in and out. Can’t do that here except for the Indian reservations — and most of them have done exactly that, seem to be doing ok. I’ve stopped reading the news, and I get my covid news from the nurse I’ve been seeing since lockdown in March. Last week there were three cases in hospital across three hospitals covering a large part of the region. That’s right 3! We all need to hide under the bed to flatten the curve, though. Flatten it moar! Flatter! Oh, wait,… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
1 year ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

@PalmaSailor +1 on stuffinbox’s comment… bright red lipstick and green suede high heels are definitely ovulation indicators…lol AF… OR… BB algos in play… with the BB as the default… the ideal for girls is alpha provider… and girls try to lock those guys down the same as BB providers…lol… = ‘chase me!!!’… ‘i’m not that kind of girl!!!… at least not anymore…’ lol… just from your FR… “Punchy is sitting in the pub wit a brunette mid 30’s ” sooo, epiphany phase girl… “and I am wearing a sailing cap with a bit of string attaching it to the back… Read more »

theasdgamer
1 year ago

“good explanation of cavitation”

Ask my English teeth about cavitation. ukukukukuk

stuffinbox
1 year ago

Palma , thanks for posting. Red lipstick green shoes missing out brunette was ovulating at this date. Palma the yacht sailor you were over qualified and she was intimidated because you didn’t sexualize the banter enough for her to be assured of your seed. With the role reversal these type women pitch a bitch if they don’t get the D in a timely manner. She likely had other prospects but you could have tapped it if you would have pressed it.

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

Ehhhh…. Not sure.

I’d bet the “sex party” talked spiked ASD. Yes it is illogical, but yeah…. One thing if it is one on one and building a vibe and bubble. Another when it’s a group.

That said, you might have tried getting her to stay and buy you a drink etc.

This I say “yeah take them off then” and she does

This is how you reframe. Hoop theory in action. She sets a hoop for you to jump through, you take the hoop from her [reframe] and make her jump through it, then continue…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago
Reply to  Sentient

Yeah so I’m hindsight I’m thinking the sex party talk was beta bait. Though I could have escalated harder. Looking back she was pressing her knee because I was suddenly aware of it and I hadn’t moved so I could have touched that under the table and moved it up a tick but for some reason I didn’t. She expected bigsupershocksurprise… ohmigod what??? A SEX PARTY!!! ID JUST LOVE TO COME TO THAT!!!!! Then she could say “ha – gotcha – only kidding” – ASD contained. Instead she got “yeah no problem but we’d have to talk about the money”… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
1 year ago