Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

15,826 comments on “Field Reports

  1. Bet on the incumbent , the polls say different as they have before. The average IQ is low yet the bottom of the curve on the left can’t even fill in a ballot properly.

    1. The scary thing isn’t that the average IQ is 100, it’s that half the population are below that.

      That’s scary. And illegal migration is reducing that day in day out.

      1. “The scary thing isn’t that the average IQ is 100, it’s that half the population are below that.”

        It is only a coincidence that we read from left to right putting the far left at the low end of the curve. Yet they haven’t changed the IQ graph as of yet.

        “That’s scary. And illegal migration is reducing that day in day out.”

        Getting past the border controls requires some ingenuity.

        The enemy is within.

        From Rollo’s Twitter.

        https://quillette.com/2020/08/01/the-piety-of-the-impious/

        Teaser
        “The largely ineradicable character of the religious instinct means that it persists, even upon the apparently disenchanted landscapes of modern secular culture. Like nature, society abhors a vacuum. And with the demise of organised religion, other claimants have rushed in to fill the void.”


  2. Women: i liked the color of their clothing; the ay they alked; the cruelty in some faces; now and then the almost pure beauty in another face, totally and enchantingly female. The had it over us: they planned much better and ere better organized. While men were watching professional football or drinking beer or bowling, they, the women, were thinking about us, concentrating, studying, deciding whether to accepts us, discard us, exhancge us, kill us or wheter simply to leave us. In the end it hardy mattered; no matter what they did, we ended up lonely and insane.

  3. Women: i liked the color of their clothing; the ay they alked; the cruelty in some faces; now and then the almost pure beauty in another face, totally and enchantingly female. The had it over us: they planned much better and ere better organized. While men were watching professional football or drinking beer or bowling, they, the women, were thinking about us, concentrating, studying, deciding whether to accepts us, discard us, exhancge us, kill us or wheter simply to leave us. In the end it hardy mattered; no matter what they did, we ended up lonely and insane.

  4. @Sentient / Centuries

    I don’t know if I’ve ever said but I don’t actually gamble. And I mean even when I took the staff on an event to the races and gave them money to gamble I didn’t. I put £5 on a horse when I was about 20 and it ran backwards and I haven’t gambled since that day.

    Apart from 4 years ago when I had £1000 on Donald at 4/1. I ignored everything apart from his Facebook likes and he was smashing Clinton with those by a large margin. I haven’t checked FB this time.

    Anyway I’ve done it at 15/8

    https://imgur.com/a/JlzFVDT

    Looking from the outside it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that even moderate Democrats could vote for him. Not all people slightly to the left are arseholes. But most people want law and order, and don’t want the country going up in flames at the hands of a very small minority of lunatics.

    I was even tempted to go a bit harder to be honest.

  5. ^^ I don’t actually have FB so I have to look at what’s visible to a non subscriber but I can see Trump gets likes in the 100’s of thousands for his comments but Biden is concealing his likes. Doesn’t even show those. I reckon that’s all you need to know.

  6. What’s up boys?

    So this is interesting. Short strokes. Went to a coffee place in the morning. Pretty thin which is standard since plandemic. See a fine looking thing order and go and sit outside.

    Now I’ve been pretty locked up this past 6 months or so. Not much game going on at all. So I’m thinking shit maybe go open that? It’s been a while since I just rolled up on a hottie and put her on the spot.

    So I’m thinking I’ll go do so. See some old guy taking a picture of her dog. She has this weird looking little dog. Order my brew and then roll outside to confront her.

    So I go out and lean against a sign pole and engage her on her dog. I say that dog looks like he is struggling. She laughs and says he’s new to the area and hasn’t adapted. Soni tease her that she is having the same problem and she laughs and says she probably is.

    So the open is done. She’s maybe 5’6″ and 115 or so. Killer dancer yoga pilates build. Long hair, EE face and cheeks. No bra,, pert titles. Mid 30s. Worthy of an open.

    She says something like she just moved here and blah blah. Turns out she grew up not far from where I did so we talk around that a bit. Lot of solid eye contact. I tell her hold that thought and go inside and get my order. Come back and as I’m taking the seat next to her at the table ask her if she’s waiting for someone. Sit down.

    Just basic small talk stuff, neighborhood, places to go blah blah. At some point she says she’s separating from her husband. She’s in real estate and doing well, was in a bigger market now here for opportunities.

    Good general convo, she is EE, tease her about her accent and that stuff. She’s been here since she was 10 or so. At some point – this was interesting- she’s talking about it’s hard to meet guys, guys her own age are metrosexuals… she likes men. She’s pretty red pill so a bit of banter around that. She likes manly men.

    She says she’s been working out doing boxing, she can throw a punch etc. I tease her a bit about that and sexualize a bit, saying I’ll know what to expect. She says yeah watch out and is laughing.

    At one point she says she has good intuition and can read people so I challenge her to read me. She says she thinks I’m a fun social guy who loves his family but likes to go out and have fun and my wife probably doesn’t as much. She says it’s common. I tell her she’s pretty good.

    So I’m finishing up my covfeve and checking my phone as I’m going to meet someone. She says she needs to go and reaches for her card, says “if you know anyone interested in real estate, pass it on”.

    I take her card and say ” maybe I’m interested, but not in real estate. What about that?” She gives that EE smirk, and says “well maybe we will have drink sometime at XYZ, (which is my local)… unless that is too close to home?”

    I laugh and say maybe, we’ll figure something out. And we say goodbye and part.

    So I have her name, she just has my first name, so I Google her [HABD going to say “oooohhhh you like her”] but I’m more interested in what kind of situation this is…

    So Google says her husband she is “seperated” from… is doing life on a double murder ten years ago…

    Well then… that presents some interesting dynamics 😆 But really what to do? Take the candy? Or who knows what kind of can of worms this opens…

    Bitches man… 😠

    1. @Sentient

      “So I have her name, she just has my first name, so I Google her [HABD going to say “oooohhhh you like her”] but I’m more interested in what kind of situation this is…”

      First arm on the decision tree depends on when he’s due out…

      Over here it could be imminent.

      I don’t think I ever wrote up a field report where an ex bf hacked a woman I’d been seeing’s iMessage account and texted me to invite me over to her place did I?

      She wasn’t in and it didn’t go well..

  7. “But really what to do? ” Is it candy or bait?

    hmm? Alpha widow “realtor” Shady lady.

    Good investigative work , do some more looking. Something smells like a setup

  8. Recent shit test

    Yesterday after the nurse turned up for the normal recreation we’re laying in bed.

    She starts touching herself and says “if you were 32 you be ready to go again at this”

    I say “yeah well, if you were 22 I’d also be ready to go again”

    Her – smack!!!!

  9. ‪@HABD / anyone interested ‬

    ‪There’s some intelligent comment about da’pocalypse over here if anyone is interested:‬

    https://forums.lockdownsceptics.org/viewtopic.php?p=2557#p2557

    ‪@illimitible is me. Note the highly intelligent reply below my original comment re written below here.‬

    ‪Note his final assumption is a Trump win, and that is indeed the perception of anyone here with a brain.‬

    ‪There’s also a dating section on the blog – and I have a date on Thursday night within 5 minutes of posting my advert – so what gives there?‬

    https://imgur.com/a/8K6sUZP

    ‪“Illimitible‬
    ‪Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:11 am‬
    ‪I’m totally astonished at the ease with which they’ve almost totally removed freedom, and they are managing it with not only the support of, but also with shadow policing by the general public at large.‬

    ‪I’m stumped at the agenda. By any normal measure it looks like the death rate is flat lining. Yes, cases are soaring, but guess what? They’re now testing loads of people. At our local hospital down here in the people’s republic I have a friend that works in A&E, and the COVID ward is empty. She said there was one in intensive care and he had other significant problems. That’s been the story throughout this, very sick people have been dying. They also had COVID, so that is what was registered. ‬

    ‪There was a comment that an ICU somewhere was 30% full so PANIC and she found this laughable. Apparently that’s nothing, when it’s 130% full you panic it seems.‬

    ‪But something else is definitely going on. There is a class of people that live in a totally different world than most of us who work in the private sector. And those are civil servants of one type or another.‬

    ‪These people get paid no matter what. And for the best part they are left leaning redistributionists. They already lived in a utopian world where it was almost impossible to get sacked, and NOW they live in a world where it is impossible to get sacked and they don’t have to work either but still get paid.‬

    ‪Then you’ve got the pseudo public sector stuff that is bankrupt. And I’m talking TFL here. I challenge anyone to find any good news in their accounts. It costs 7BN a MONTH to run it, and almost all of that comes (did come) from fares; with a bit coming from commercial rents on real estate they own. They spend every penny of revenue they get, they have a load of debt, and other obligations including one to have 8 weeks cash available in the bank at any one time.‬

    ‪The slight snag is that passenger numbers have been slaughtered with no tourists, and commuting at a fraction of its previous numbers, but their costs are the same.‬

    ‪So you just know that Sadiq Khan is just itching to shit down London again. And why? Well my take is that he can’t actually open it. It won’t re open and support the legacy levels of debt and infrastructure that it’s got. Closing it gives him an excuse to seek another lifeline from the government. He’s apparently had one, but looking at the accounts I don’t know how he’s still paying the wages, I reckon there’s been more done under the radar that we don’t know about.‬

    ‪Now look at offices, things like the shard and Canary Wharf. I haven’t done the math, but I’ll bet you can’t actually get all the staff that should fill a floor up to that floor in in a timely enough manner to do a days work. If a lift could hold 30 it possibly now holds 3. So it takes 10 times as long to fill the floor and ten times as long to empty it. And that’s ignoring emergencies. What then?‬

    ‪So now look at the perceived value of those offices and what debt is stacked up against it. Capital values are a blend of rental amount, tenant covenant value, and assumed demand. This stuff is leveraged, with an individual or an investment fund taking the equity and the a bank or consortium of banks issuing debt to spread the “risk”. In the new paradigm all three of those things are gonna hit the shitter wiping out the equity and leaving the banks with huge bad debt that can’t be recovered.‬

    ‪And I haven’t even started with retail and the bars and restaurants.‬

    ‪So how is all this being funded? We know don’t we children.. we’re just printing more FIAT currency. More than ever. And again I haven’t done the math but I’d bet that on a global basis anyone with the ability to print is more or less doing it. This gives the perception that it’s all ok to anyone that doesn’t think. (Most of the afore mentioned civil servants)‬

    ‪So what have we slid into, and did we slide into it, and who does it serve?‬

    ‪I dunno. To me it looks like Zimbabwe 101. Massive inflation and devaluation on a competitive global basis with huge currency shifts in favour of countries that are more fundamentally sound. Ie they grow their own food; and at the expense of economies that have slid into a position of unproductive redistributional woke bullshit.‬

    ‪And I think that’s what Trump is trying to do. Bring manufacturing back home from China because the wealth transfer can’t continue at the expense of the US working classes. I don’t know what Boris is trying to do. I had high hopes for him because he doesn’t need money. We have the same problem, our wealth is being exported to China in return for goods that we should be making here. The working classes are feeling the brunt of this while the public sector and lefty urban woke are mainly unaffected and just want a cheap iPhone. I thought his ambition was to be a latter day Churchill and get us out of the EU menace to huge prosperity. But I really don’t know now.‬

    ‪Rant over I need coffee.”‬

    Reply by another:

    ‪“Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:23 am‬
    ‪> So what have we slid into, and did we slide into it, and who does it serve?‬

    ‪The answer to the why is now looking very obvious. The perceived very high risk of mass pandemic deaths at the start of the year for SAR CoV 2 was based on a number very widely published by the international medical community, the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), of the first SARs outbreak in 2003 that was completely and utterly fraudulent. The published IFR number for SARs CoV 1 overstated the risk of death by at least a factor of 10.‬

    ‪When you read the medical literature and see an IFR stated for an epidemic infectious disease that number is ALWAYS backed by post epidemic data sets produced by large population sample serology studies. If there are no studies to establish an accurate IFR this fact is always clearly footnoted. ‬

    ‪The SARs outbreak in 2003 was almost completely in China, 80% of the notified cases, probably 95% plus of the actual cases, were in China. It was the only country that had any kind of community spread. In Guangzhou province. The Chinese government went to great lengths to cover up the the initial outbreak and down play at all stages just how widespread the outbreak was. Once the cluster outbreaks outside Chinese were bough under control the outbreak mysteriously suddenly stopped in mainland China and no more cases. ‬

    ‪As part of the sustained and very deliberate cover up in 2003 the Chinese government made sure there were no post epidemic large population serological studies done in China. Because they would have shown just how big the Chinese government coverup had been. You cannot have 8K official cases if say 3% to 5% of the population of Guangzhou province of over 100 million people prove serologically positive. ‬

    ‪So the officially published IFR for SARs CoV 1 in 2003 was exactly the same as its Case Fatality Rate. The percentage of very sick people who died from it. A very very different number. You can be certain that everyone directly involved in the international medical community knew this number was fraudulent and the result of a very politically motivated coverup by China.‬

    ‪The why the governments are taking all these authoritarian is very simple. They are now attempting an even larger cover up of their utter incompetence back in March. Because of what they have done over the last six months they have destroyed a good 10% to 15% of the countries economy. For good. That is about a decades real growth gone. It has also destroyed at least 10% of the jobs in the economy. For good.‬

    ‪So the stakes are very high for the current political class. In all countries. Its a matter of survival. They need to keep the crisis going to postpone the day of reckoning, kick the can down the road, in the blind hope an even bigger external crisis will come along soon to deflect the anger of the people once they realize its all been a big con. There never was a deadly new epidemic disease, just a slight variation of an old one.‬

    ‪Unfortunately the politicians will be mostly proved right. A bigger crisis will come along in the next six months to a year. The politicians are hoping that their particular country is not part of the bigger crisis so they can blame the end results on “external events.” China may start a war with a neighbor, Xi is getting very desperate. Might even invade Taiwan. The final Euro crisis might happen due to the Germans miscalculating, yet again. The Russians may start a war in Belarus or the Caucasus that spins out of control. The Democrats in the US may go for broke, just like in 1861, in a last desperate attempt to hold onto institutional power after they lose the election.‬

    ‪And a bunch more other big geo-political problems in the offing in the next six months.‬

    ‪This is how real world politics at the highest level works. The devious, cunning and incompetent always maneuvering to hold onto power. And usually succeeding.‬

    ‪2020 was the year from hell. 2021 looks like it will be much much worse.”‬

    1. “So how is all this being funded? We know don’t we children.. we’re just printing more FIAT currency. More than ever. And again I haven’t done the math but I’d bet that on a global basis anyone with the ability to print is more or less doing it. This gives the perception that it’s all ok to anyone that doesn’t think. (Most of the afore mentioned civil servants)‬”

      The funding is only proffered to big powers that are on board with the big plan. Lets face it the tech is here to monitor full control of the population, the youth have been indoctrinated and have no problem without privacy.

      The way it is supposed to work is tax on productive commerce foots the bill for government protection of the same commerce. This government outgrew the producers ability to support it (some 80 years ago). Next step open new markets, bring backwater countries up to speed make them the producers and tax the commerce. Once this market reaches saturation (some 30 years ago) fiddle with laws and interest rates to create new bubble markets. The next step is to tax the air and sunshine going all in on “renewable energy” making laws to force economy.

      The bank doesn’t care about loan repayment , it would rather grab the land and build a pod where we work grow ouir food eat and sleep in one big stack , if anyone can’t conform theygo out into the lawless zone.

      ‪”So what have we slid into, and did we slide into it, and who does it serve?‬”

      Those no good doogooders , believe they know better and are willing to stake our lives on it we can either get on board or we are on our own.

      1. “The bank doesn’t care about loan repayment , it would rather grab the land . . .”

        I have pointed out here a few times that the really wealthy don’t necessarily have a lot of money, and thus aren’t necessarily counted in the richest people lists. They have control of the money, which they use to acquire real wealth, the actual resources.

        We, of course, are counted in the resource category, and, if we aren’t profitable, are counted as industrial waste, a negative resource. Useless Eaters.

        1. So money doesn’t matter unless you need it. If you’ve got enough day to day then you don’t need much more.

          On that basis, if you own a bank you can extend credit left right and centre for the poor people to acquire assets whilst adding their equity, then you can call in those loans when the poor people are skint and possess those assets yourself net of the original equity investment.

          Then turn on the lending and sell that shit back to the poor people again before you turn off the taps and skin them.

          And so it goes on. Wealth transfer.

      1. I used to read the Economist and the weekend FT.

        They’ve gone hard left and I can’t read them now.

        There’s nothing for me to read now. Intelligent debate is over.

  10. Word for the day, indomitable

    The adjective indomitable starts with the Latin prefix in, which means “not.” The second part of the word is also from the Latin word domitare, meaning “to tame.” So the word literally means “not able to be tamed.” Indomitable is often teamed with the words spirit or personality to describe someone with a can-do attitude.

  11. All things being equal I’m leaving the people’s republic of ghey and moving back to where I used to live one mile from my son. Frankly I’m fed up living in a society which seems to define itself on its gender politics / other politics and how oppressed it is at the hands of …. wait for it…. men!

    It feels like that’s the way it is and in the three years I’ve been here I’ve struggled to find two men I actually want to socialise with. On the women front, without the tourists, the locals look like they’ve walked out of the window of a charity shop. And no kidding. So I’m out.

    I started the project 3 years ago on my 50th birthday and I should move into my new place next week on my 53rd birthday.

    So I phoned my son to tell him I wanted to pick him up and show him but he refused to see me because da’pocalypse. Didn’t I know how dangerous it was etc.. he wasn’t having any of my sense, his brainwashing is almost complete.

    After that I dropped in on old friend and EEGF because I had a date and an hour to kill. I get there and one of her friends is there. She’s smokin hot. She prob can’t be a 9 bc she’s early 30’s but she was hot. She’s Norwegian and she’s living with (married) an older divorced guy that has a few kids by a previous marriage and makes quite a lot of coin in the city somewhere. I’ll call her VHF (very hot friend) On the way in I saw her 2019 high end big engine Audi and she’s got the worlds biggest diamond ring. Now I’ve met her guy and he’s a prick so there’s that (I know separately that despite his big income, one way or another, he’s spending all of it plus probably more)

    So I’m going on a date with a woman I met in the lockdown cynics forum, and she seems great fun but I have and hour to kill.

    So old friend chirps up that I’m moving back and have rented a flat down the road and I’m going on a date. EEGF chirps up “what about the nurse you’re seeing?”

    I say “that’s never been exclusive”

    Questioning ensues about “where we’re going on our date”, I say a nice pub xyz and someone says “oh for dinner”. I choke on air and say “definitely not. She might be awful”. You could just hear the girls brains about to say “well don’t you want to impress her?” But they didn’t say it.

    Then old friend busts me and says “Palma has got a process. He takes them to one pub, and if he doesn’t like them he calls time after the first drink and leaves. If they get past that then he walks them down the road to the next bar where they get a starter dish, and if he really gets on with them he walks them down to the next bar where they get desert. And if they get that far they end up banging him back at theirs” laughing.

    I don’t say a word. VHF says “ahh men full of this macho stuff about how they pull women”. I’m just smiling and saying nothing.

    There’s some debate about my dating choices and I resort back to my standard “I’m not interested in explaining myself to anyone”. There’s a lot of Debate about that and old friend says “you just haven’t met the right one yet”. I don’t know of that was tongue in cheek or just for the benefit of EEGF bc he gets around plenty.

    The conversation moved on to “conduct and standards” and VHF starts to lay it out. She feels that societal standards have dropped and she insists that her guy is home to eat a meal in the evening and sit round the table etc. (Poindexter) I say “I’m never gonna do that”. Unexpectedly she doesn’t bat an eyelid apart from a slight smile.

    She asks me how old I am and I ignore the question.

    The conversation turns to how it used to be in old school families where you’re all at the table, speak when spoken to, finish your food. Then leave when the last person was finished.

    I was asked if that is what my childhood was like. I laugh. And just say “yeah right.. A meal at the table.. yeah… I usually had to step over my mother to make myself a sandwich bc she was in her own piss on the floor”.

    We go on to discuss the dating scene in the U.K. and VHF says she doesn’t like women and if she were a man she’d have nothing to do with them. I feel like I’m being baited to denigrate women but I don’t say a word. Just give it the eyebrow raise. Then she goes on “not English women anyway” then I’m quizzed “what nationality is my date”. I say “Irish”. She’s apparently ok.

    The discussion turns to women just wanting money and one of the two girls say “the first thing they ask is what you do to see if you’ve got any money”. Old friend says “They don’t bother with that around here, if you’re here you’ve got money”.

    I go on to say “not me, I’m broke. I’m only buying a mattes because I can’t afford the bed I want until I get paid from our new project”.

    I’m gonna have a chair, a mattress and bed clothes plus my clothes and shoe collection, laptop and nothing else in my new pad.

    At some point during the interaction the precise location of my new pad is questioned because there are a few mid 30’s women that have got pregnant “accidentally” by rich local men and they’re living in these up market flats with the children funded by the men. The men realise too late they’ve been had. In one case she only fucked the guy once and she was pregnant. Or of course she was already pregnant before she fucked him. EEGF says “don’t you dare touch her” referring to one of them. And I sort of shrug “she might be cute”.

    So the summary is that I’m usually shamed hard for my “commitment refusal” and EEGF always winds in to me with “concerned questioning” however VHF didn’t bat an eyelid at my lifestyle choice. She was smiling and making eye contact sat next to me. I don’t remember an overt hair flick but I suspect there was one covertly that she suppressed.

    EEGF is not a consideration but I’d love to get hold of VHF. And I think I was being sussed out for secret society but would appreciate thoughts?

  12. @PalmaSailor

    If you’re worried about inflation keep an eye on M3. We’re not quite there yet, central banks need to print more. I’m sure at some point the politicians will oblige with further crises.

    1. Chunky – good to see you. Yeah it’s quiet, the rona limiting things.

      Palma – and I think I was being sussed out for secret society

      My conclusion, this is always always always going on, not in a conscious way and not overt. But BAMM! when you cock an eye, or deliver some OMGEEEE!!! comment with ZFG or stare her down, or touch her it triggers. They are all down for some. So play the odds she/they are attracted, they are 80% in your favor and no harm no foul if you are a little off, but almost impossible to claw back round the other way.

      1. @Sentient

        The thing with VHF is she’s full of it. What she does and doesn’t want. And she’s getting through a lot of money. So plenty of Alphas would have been there, but what’s the old adage? For every attractive woman there’s a man somewhere that’s full of her shit.

        Even a blue pill Alpha would struggle to contain her. You’d just have to be Red Pill or she’d walk all over you.

        So in actual fact she probably has consolidated on about the best BB she can for provisioning.

        But I want to bang her.. and that needs proximity and privacy which is going to be difficult to achieve. Though it will be easier now I’m back. Incidentally my sons head (his mother) has exploded at me moving back and he’s told me to fuck off out of his life again.

  13. Palma , thanks for posting.

    My take is VHF has no skills not even in the kitchen so her car and bling are window dressing on a trophy girl.

    VHF is highly tuned in to any future meal ticket and your confidence outplays the prick that is over leveraged.
    If VHF forms secret squirrel society with you it will be because of this confidence and while she is ovulating.

  14. Rollo

    Can you fix the comments so you can get to the last one without hitting all the pages from the beginning.?

    1. One way to get to most recent comments is via the root page https://therationalmale.com/ where the most recent 5 or so comments show up in the sidebar. Click directly and open in a new window.

      I keep a Field Reports pane open in my Rational male window to the latest and greatest, currently that is:

      https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-156/#comments

      Plague Prediction: with an increase in “cases” in the Northern Hemisphere we are definitely heading for a modified lockupdown. Not just Britland, but also a swath of western Europe and many US states.

      “Secret society” – I quote da HABD “They are always pinging for Alpha” and it is not necessarily conscious, it’s permanent low level routine. AWALT, but some suppress it better than others.

  15. @PalmaSailor

    ‪@HABD / anyone interested ‬

    ‪There’s some intelligent comment about da’pocalypse over here if anyone is interested:‬

    https://forums.lockdownsceptics.org/viewtopic.php?p=2557#p2557

    ‪@illimitible is me. Note the highly intelligent reply below my original comment re written below here.‬

    ‪Note his final assumption is a Trump win, and that is indeed the perception of anyone here with a brain.‬

    ‪There’s also a dating section on the blog – and I have a date on Thursday night within 5 minutes of posting my advert – so what gives there?‬

    https://imgur.com/a/8K6sUZP

    dearth of actual men in play?…lol… <— rhetorical…lol

    “Illimitible‬
    ‪Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:11 am‬
    ‪I’m totally astonished at the ease with which they’ve almost totally removed freedom, and they are managing it with not only the support of, but also with shadow policing by the general public at large.‬

    meta level sht test…lol… with beta boys trying to score pssy points with the karens…lol… but not kidding…

    I’m stumped at the agenda.

    world-wide global level commie insurgency… the pieces are moving all around the board… it really is go-time… there’s two countries that the commies actually need to take down… the US and Britain (bc of the brexit sh*t…) can’t let the peasants get uppity without punishment… and they are so close they can’t wait anymore… less than 3 weeks to a potential hot civil war here in the states… and it doesn’t really depend on who ‘wins’ the election… the commies are ready to/and plan to go either way… that’s just part of the playbook…

    By any normal measure it looks like the death rate is flat lining. Yes, cases are soaring, but guess what? They’re now testing loads of people. At our local hospital down here in the people’s republic I have a friend that works in A&E, and the COVID ward is empty. She said there was one in intensive care and he had other significant problems. That’s been the story throughout this, very sick people have been dying. They also had COVID, so that is what was registered. ‬

    same everywhere… have friends that are getting/have been laid off bc no patients in the hospital…

    There was a comment that an ICU somewhere was 30% full so PANIC and she found this laughable. Apparently that’s nothing, when it’s 130% full you panic it seems.‬

    ‪But something else is definitely going on.

    control… and the commie insurgency/colour revolution…

    There is a class of people that live in a totally different world than most of us who work in the private sector. And those are civil servants of one type or another.‬

    ‪These people get paid no matter what. And for the best part they are left leaning redistributionists. They already lived in a utopian world where it was almost impossible to get sacked, and NOW they live in a world where it is impossible to get sacked and they don’t have to work either but still get paid.‬

    same here…

    Then you’ve got the pseudo public sector stuff that is bankrupt. And I’m talking TFL here. I challenge anyone to find any good news in their accounts. It costs 7BN a MONTH to run it, and almost all of that comes (did come) from fares; with a bit coming from commercial rents on real estate they own. They spend every penny of revenue they get, they have a load of debt, and other obligations including one to have 8 weeks cash available in the bank at any one time.‬

    ‪The slight snag is that passenger numbers have been slaughtered with no tourists, and commuting at a fraction of its previous numbers, but their costs are the same.‬

    same for NYC… and that’s the whole city…lol… all the rich folks that have been paying the bills are leaving…lol… and dck head and numb nts/nipple rings are ‘confused’…lol

    So you just know that Sadiq Khan is just itching to shit down London again. And why? Well my take is that he can’t actually open it. It won’t re open and support the legacy levels of debt and infrastructure that it’s got. Closing it gives him an excuse to seek another lifeline from the government.

    NY/NYC is trying everything they can to get more money out of the federal .gov… d*ckhead sucked up to jerry seinfeld to try to get 10 Billion to keep open a ‘open mic’ comedy club/cafe (and other ‘local culture’)…lol

    He’s apparently had one, but looking at the accounts I don’t know how he’s still paying the wages, I reckon there’s been more done under the radar that we don’t know about.‬

    NYC has been furlowing everybody… like the cops…lol

    Now look at offices, things like the shard and Canary Wharf. I haven’t done the math, but I’ll bet you can’t actually get all the staff that should fill a floor up to that floor in in a timely enough manner to do a days work. If a lift could hold 30 it possibly now holds 3. So it takes 10 times as long to fill the floor and ten times as long to empty it. And that’s ignoring emergencies. What then?‬

    ‪So now look at the perceived value of those offices and what debt is stacked up against it. Capital values are a blend of rental amount, tenant covenant value, and assumed demand. This stuff is leveraged, with an individual or an investment fund taking the equity and the a bank or consortium of banks issuing debt to spread the “risk”. In the new paradigm all three of those things are gonna hit the shitter wiping out the equity and leaving the banks with huge bad debt that can’t be recovered.‬

    AND… those offices won’t come back bc the businesses are seeing that ‘work from home’ is just as productive without the expensive overhead costs…lol… talk about shooting your own feet…lol… those .govs lost a BUNCH of tax revenue…lol… and that sh*t is not coming back…

    And I haven’t even started with retail and the bars and restaurants.‬

    and they get pushed out of business too bc all that local work force is now going to be spread out across the whole country, instead of localized ‘downtown’…lol

    So how is all this being funded? We know don’t we children.. we’re just printing more FIAT currency. More than ever. And again I haven’t done the math but I’d bet that on a global basis anyone with the ability to print is more or less doing it. This gives the perception that it’s all ok to anyone that doesn’t think. (Most of the afore mentioned civil servants)‬

    ‪So what have we slid into, and did we slide into it, and who does it serve?‬

    the race is on between the commie insurgency/elite (includes central banks and the other groups that @kfg talks about) to consolidate power before the bottom falls out of the actual purchasing power of that fiat currency…lol

    I dunno. To me it looks like Zimbabwe 101. Massive inflation and devaluation on a competitive global basis with huge currency shifts in favour of countries that are more fundamentally sound. Ie they grow their own food; and at the expense of economies that have slid into a position of unproductive redistributional woke bullshit.‬

    mostly that sh*t is mixed into every country…lol… that’s WHY civil wars ramp so fast… bc hungry folks are crabby…

    and those attack vectors are still food and population density…

    and just as an aside… i’ve noticed that you lot over across the pond are ramping back up (or down as the case may be) to rationing… the articles i’ve seen are starting to push canned food, which is the first step (bc fresh won’t be easily available in the future)… and nostalgia for the good old war-time spirit… got a garden at that new place?… or close by?… no i’m not kidding… victory gardens were a thing for a reason…

    And I think that’s what Trump is trying to do. Bring manufacturing back home from China because the wealth transfer can’t continue at the expense of the US working classes.

    true… and Jyna sees that for what it is… an economic pressure/attack on the ccp control… like i said, world-wide global commie insurgency… with vectors focused on food and pop density… and Jyna is starting to ‘starve’… they are already ‘measuring’ food on restaurant plates… along with their ‘clean plate’ program… and it’s not even winter yet…

    and world-wide food prices are going up already…

    I don’t know what Boris is trying to do. I had high hopes for him because he doesn’t need money. We have the same problem, our wealth is being exported to China in return for goods that we should be making here. The working classes are feeling the brunt of this while the public sector and lefty urban woke are mainly unaffected and just want a cheap iPhone. I thought his ambition was to be a latter day Churchill and get us out of the EU menace to huge prosperity. But I really don’t know now.‬

    i just read BJ is walking away…lol… he must have talked to trump… or been paying attention…lol

    Rant over I need coffee.”‬

    Reply by another:

    ‪“Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:23 am‬
    ‪> So what have we slid into, and did we slide into it, and who does it serve?‬

    ‪The answer to the why is now looking very obvious. The perceived very high risk of mass pandemic deaths at the start of the year for SAR CoV 2 was based on a number very widely published by the international medical community, the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), of the first SARs outbreak in 2003 that was completely and utterly fraudulent. The published IFR number for SARs CoV 1 overstated the risk of death by at least a factor of 10.‬

    ‪When you read the medical literature and see an IFR stated for an epidemic infectious disease that number is ALWAYS backed by post epidemic data sets produced by large population sample serology studies. If there are no studies to establish an accurate IFR this fact is always clearly footnoted. ‬

    ‪The SARs outbreak in 2003 was almost completely in China, 80% of the notified cases, probably 95% plus of the actual cases, were in China. It was the only country that had any kind of community spread. In Guangzhou province. The Chinese government went to great lengths to cover up the the initial outbreak and down play at all stages just how widespread the outbreak was. Once the cluster outbreaks outside Chinese were bough under control the outbreak mysteriously suddenly stopped in mainland China and no more cases. ‬

    ‪As part of the sustained and very deliberate cover up in 2003 the Chinese government made sure there were no post epidemic large population serological studies done in China. Because they would have shown just how big the Chinese government coverup had been. You cannot have 8K official cases if say 3% to 5% of the population of Guangzhou province of over 100 million people prove serologically positive. ‬

    ‪So the officially published IFR for SARs CoV 1 in 2003 was exactly the same as its Case Fatality Rate. The percentage of very sick people who died from it. A very very different number. You can be certain that everyone directly involved in the international medical community knew this number was fraudulent and the result of a very politically motivated coverup by China.‬

    ‪The why the governments are taking all these authoritarian is very simple. They are now attempting an even larger cover up of their utter incompetence back in March. Because of what they have done over the last six months they have destroyed a good 10% to 15% of the countries economy. For good. That is about a decades real growth gone. It has also destroyed at least 10% of the jobs in the economy. For good.‬

    ‪So the stakes are very high for the current political class. In all countries. Its a matter of survival. They need to keep the crisis going to postpone the day of reckoning, kick the can down the road, in the blind hope an even bigger external crisis will come along soon to deflect the anger of the people once they realize its all been a big con. There never was a deadly new epidemic disease, just a slight variation of an old one.‬

    ‪Unfortunately the politicians will be mostly proved right. A bigger crisis will come along in the next six months to a year. The politicians are hoping that their particular country is not part of the bigger crisis so they can blame the end results on “external events.” China may start a war with a neighbor, Xi is getting very desperate. Might even invade Taiwan. The final Euro crisis might happen due to the Germans miscalculating, yet again. The Russians may start a war in Belarus or the Caucasus that spins out of control. The Democrats in the US may go for broke, just like in 1861, in a last desperate attempt to hold onto institutional power after they lose the election.‬

    ‪And a bunch more other big geo-political problems in the offing in the next six months.‬

    ‪This is how real world politics at the highest level works. The devious, cunning and incompetent always maneuvering to hold onto power. And usually succeeding.‬

    ‪2020 was the year from hell. 2021 looks like it will be much much worse.”‬

    good comment… looks like somebody else pays attention too…lol

    good luck!

  16. @PalmaSailor

    All things being equal I’m leaving the people’s republic of ghey and moving back to where I used to live one mile from my son.

    does he have a bike? a mile is a long walk, but a short bike ride… he might take up ‘running away’…

    Frankly I’m fed up living in a society which seems to define itself on its gender politics / other politics and how oppressed it is at the hands of …. wait for it…. men!

    meta level sht tests… and beta boys trying for pssy points…lol

    It feels like that’s the way it is and in the three years I’ve been here I’ve struggled to find two men I actually want to socialise with.

    that sh*t’s everywhere… kind of hard finding RP buddy’s IRL…

    On the women front, without the tourists, the locals look like they’ve walked out of the window of a charity shop. And no kidding. So I’m out.

    that sh*t’s everywhere too…lol… folks have really let themselves go with this virus lockdown excuse…

    I started the project 3 years ago on my 50th birthday and I should move into my new place next week on my 53rd birthday.

    So I phoned my son to tell him I wanted to pick him up and show him but he refused to see me because da’pocalypse. Didn’t I know how dangerous it was etc.. he wasn’t having any of my sense, his brainwashing is almost complete.

    sounds like mom is on a roll… and he is getting it from 2 sides… school is reinforcing that same message… my kids have to be constantly reminded that it’s bull sh*t…lol…

    After that I dropped in on old friend and EEGF because I had a date and an hour to kill. I get there and one of her friends is there. She’s smokin hot. She prob can’t be a 9 bc she’s early 30’s but she was hot.

    academically… maybe…lol… but i’ve seen some smokin’ epiphany girls…lol…

    She’s Norwegian and she’s living with (married) an older divorced guy that has a few kids by a previous marriage and makes quite a lot of coin in the city somewhere. I’ll call her VHF (very hot friend) On the way in I saw her 2019 high end big engine Audi and she’s got the worlds biggest diamond ring. Now I’ve met her guy and he’s a prick so there’s that (I know separately that despite his big income, one way or another, he’s spending all of it plus probably more)

    married… epiphany phase/baby rabies age (and ‘step-mom’ to boot)… and yet she still hasn’t gotten pregnant?…hmmmm…lol

    So I’m going on a date with a woman I met in the lockdown cynics forum, and she seems great fun but I have and hour to kill.

    So old friend chirps up that I’m moving back and have rented a flat down the road and I’m going on a date. EEGF chirps up “what about the nurse you’re seeing?”

    lol… i can smell the ‘mate-guarding’ from here…lol… better not stay over while you’re drunk…lol

    I say “that’s never been exclusive”

    bet that got an emotional spike…lol

    Questioning ensues about “where we’re going on our date”, I say a nice pub xyz and someone says “oh for dinner”. I choke on air and say “definitely not. She might be awful”. You could just hear the girls brains about to say “well don’t you want to impress her?” But they didn’t say it.

    that was the sound of two hindbrains kicking awake their hamsters…lol… you should start to watch for the ‘ping window’ when you say those types of AF comments…

    Then old friend busts me and says “Palma has got a process. He takes them to one pub, and if he doesn’t like them he calls time after the first drink and leaves. If they get past that then he walks them down the road to the next bar where they get a starter dish, and if he really gets on with them he walks them down to the next bar where they get desert. And if they get that far they end up banging him back at theirs” laughing.

    I don’t say a word.

    did you smirk though?…lol

    VHF says “ahh men full of this macho stuff about how they pull women”.

    sh*t test…

    I’m just smiling and saying nothing.

    did you stare her down?…lol

    There’s some debate about my dating choices and I resort back to my standard “I’m not interested in explaining myself to anyone”. There’s a lot of Debate about that and old friend says “you just haven’t met the right one yet”. I don’t know of that was tongue in cheek or just for the benefit of EEGF bc he gets around plenty.

    The conversation moved on to “conduct and standards” and VHF starts to lay it out.

    sh*t tests incoming…lol

    She feels that societal standards have dropped and she insists that her guy is home to eat a meal in the evening and sit round the table etc. (Poindexter)

    sh*t test… and whose frame is that from?…lol…

    I say “I’m never gonna do that”. Unexpectedly she doesn’t bat an eyelid apart from a slight smile.

    she doesn’t really WANT that…lol

    She asks me how old I am and I ignore the question.

    good… did you change the subject too?…

    The conversation turns to how it used to be in old school families where you’re all at the table, speak when spoken to, finish your food. Then leave when the last person was finished.

    I was asked if that is what my childhood was like. I laugh. And just say “yeah right.. A meal at the table.. yeah… I usually had to step over my mother to make myself a sandwich bc she was in her own piss on the floor”.

    We go on to discuss the dating scene in the U.K. and VHF says she doesn’t like women and if she were a man she’d have nothing to do with them.

    did you pick up on this insecurity/competition anxiety?…lol

    I feel like I’m being baited to denigrate women but I don’t say a word. Just give it the eyebrow raise. Then she goes on “not English women anyway” then I’m quizzed “what nationality is my date”. I say “Irish”. She’s apparently ok.

    lol… bc ‘irish’ girls are no competition for norwegian girls…lol

    The discussion turns to women just wanting money

    Who brought THAT up?…lol

    and one of the two girls say “the first thing they ask is what you do to see if you’ve got any money”.

    mate guarding/competition anxiety…lol

    Old friend says “They don’t bother with that around here, if you’re here you’ve got money”.

    I go on to say “not me, I’m broke. I’m only buying a mattes because I can’t afford the bed I want until I get paid from our new project”.

    I’m gonna have a chair, a mattress and bed clothes plus my clothes and shoe collection, laptop and nothing else in my new pad.

    At some point during the interaction the precise location of my new pad is questioned because there are a few mid 30’s women that have got pregnant “accidentally” by rich local men and they’re living in these up market flats with the children funded by the men. The men realise too late they’ve been had. In one case she only fucked the guy once and she was pregnant. Or of course she was already pregnant before she fucked him. EEGF says “don’t you dare touch her” referring to one of them.

    mate guarding…

    And I sort of shrug “she might be cute”.

    lol…

    So the summary is that I’m usually shamed hard for my “commitment refusal”

    those are also called sh*t tests…lol

    and EEGF always winds in to me with “concerned questioning”

    lol…

    however VHF didn’t bat an eyelid at my lifestyle choice. She was smiling and making eye contact sat next to me. I don’t remember an overt hair flick but I suspect there was one covertly that she suppressed.

    no doubt…lol

    EEGF is not a consideration

    don’t stay over while you’re drunk…lol… or if you do, expect that towel to slip off while she wants you to fix something in the bathroom…lol

    but I’d love to get hold of VHF. And I think I was being sussed out for secret society but would appreciate thoughts?

    invite her over to your new place ‘for her opinion on decorating’…lol…

    good luck!

  17. @ HABD

    “those .govs lost a BUNCH of tax revenue…lol…”

    Hahaha!!

    https://imgur.com/a/OKLIemB

    So the first chart is revenue on our VAT – Value added tax. Here it’s 20% of all goods or services. You have to charge it if your business turns over in excess of about £88k. You go on to deduct the VAT on any qualifying costs you’ve had.

    So you’re a builder that installs some shit somewhere for a customer, the raw materials cost you £500 plus the VAT = £600. You charge the customer £1000 plus the VAT = £1,200. You’ve made £600, but there’s VAT of £100 on that so that must be paid over every quarter.

    The remaining £500 profit is then subject to income tax and national insurance.

    If you earn over £150k then you lose all your tax allowances and your tax rate is something up near 70% . If you look at the difference between the munny the customer hands over as profit £600 and what you would nett if you follow the rules which in the above example is something like £150 you can see the extent we’re being skinned.

    But VAT went negative last quarter across the whole country. It’s never happened. BUT I can hear you ask “what are the implications of that PalmaSailor?”

    Well.. I’ll tell you bc this is the fun bit. If you’re sitting comfortably?

    If you’re running a business and you’ve had costs that you’ve had to pay VAT on (even if those costs have only been invoiced and you didn’t actually pay them) BUT you haven’t made enough sales in that quarter so that the vat you would charge covers the vat you have to pay out the then the gubbermint will REFUND the difference real cash munny right now into your bank – electronically and for the best part automatically.

    So they’ll give back the taxes that would have been deductible against bills you haven’t actually paid (they haven’t received the other side of those taxes)

    Of course if you’ve made that above loss then no other (income) taxes are payable either.

    So for the above quarter, on a aggregate national basis, no income / profit taxes were / will be received by the gubbermint. And I mean ZERO, NIL, NADA, NOT A FUCKIN PENNY. There would have been payroll taxes but the business activity in aggregate but you can’t deduct vat on payroll, so if vat went negative without payroll being deducted then the whole bag of cats isn’t making the profit – in aggregate to pay that payroll. TL;DR payroll came from “reserves” lol.

    As a little birthday present the next stats are gonna be released on my birthday, which in a sad way I’m actually looking forward to.

    Now look at the second chart. That shows the number of people on furlough payments. It got to 9.2M and stuck there. Around late August I was checking in and the figures weren’t being updated. At that same time other fluffy media reports that “most people had gone back etc..” So I thought “muh.. lying fucks have stopped reporting”

    THEN I re check a few days ago and PHEW!!!! They are still reporting, but now it’s MONTHLY! And guess what – up to 20th September, the figure still on furlough was – you guessed it – 9.2M.

    So as of under a month ago 1/3 of our workforce were still being paid despite not having “worked” since March. And those jobs are still there?

    So I was expecting a wave of layoffs, and we’ve had a wave, but not what I expected. And I didn’t get it until I spoke to another friend with a factory and he reminded me the cost of laying someone off. You have to pay them up ALL their accrued rights and pay in lieu. If they’ve been with you over 2 years it can get expensive. So it’s quite possible that these firms can’t actually make the payment needed.

    So are these business owners as ruthless as me? When my last business went, I gave all my key staff a pay rise before not paying them. They got their payslips but not the munny. Not from me anyway. But the gubbermint paid them out on their improved salary. Isn’t THAT FUN!

    So these owners have been calculating their options. Small cleaning company goes “bust” and I get the phone call that my Airbnb servicing will continue as normal, but errr- can I change the notifications to the other girl and here are the new bank details?

    Well I don’t know. But the free money stops this month. Which incidentally is why old friend and I have spent the last 3 months working out how to get money from the gubbermint for doing stuff. I’ve had to go back to SKOOL! And pay for TRAINING!! and get QUALIFICATIONS!!! To get ALL the right CERTIFICATES!!!! And learn about COMPLIANCE!!!!! [brainwashing] 50 pages of compliance to do a small project for a householder under a gubbermint initiative if you wanna get paid by the state. And believe me.. we do want to get paid by the state.

    Fundamentally though the economy did not supply any taxes to the state last 1/4. We will soon find out the figures for this quarter.

    I suspect that it isn’t actually possible now to levy enough taxes on what remains of the economy to even give the illusion that those can support the state, so it’s print and inflate. @ChunkyMonkey said look at M3 money supply and I’ll have to read up on that bc I don’t know much about the technicalities of economics.

    By the way – EEGF’s separate bedroom is next to my guest one and when I was walking past late a couple of weeks ago her door was open (that’s a first – it’s never open), light on, and she was sat on her bed reading with knees tucked under chin. You get the picture. I’m not going to be staying over anymore so that’s off the radar now.

    The thing with my son has totally exploded. And it exploded instantly I said that I’m moving back right to their doorstep and invited him for pizza at the end of the road for my birthday and offered to show him the new place. It’s very nice and she’ll hate that.

    Plus I’ll now shop in the supermarket that she does / her new blokes daughter works in. Honestly a part of me is just gagging to bang his daughter.. if she fell in luuurve she could even move in to my place to go through her “older man thing” whadya think? Anyway the entire pandemic has been leveraged and I’ve received a full email from him setting out his stall – he “can’t believe my arrogance” that I don’t accept the word of “the professionals who know better” and doesn’t want me in his life at all bc it causes him “anxiety”. This is not the same boy that could hit on groups of women he didn’t even know by throwing ice cubes into their cleavage’s, just a matter of 3 years ago.

    Ref VHF – you can’t usually decorate a private rental here but I do need to find the right place to put my elephant, I’m just not actually going to bump into her. I looked at her and her bloke and bearing in mind his BB status I still couldn’t believe the pairing.

    It just goes to show the scarcity of men at the higher end of the BB spectrum (that are willing to commit) – per @Stuffinbox, yeah she’s a trophy wife for sure. Then I think again about those women with kids in the apartment blocks locally. In one case she literally walked out in front of the guy in his Range Rover as he was driving through the village and started to talk to him. She banged him literally once and that was enough to attach herself to his payroll. And it’s everywhere here.

    If VHF is still with BB then that may just be bc she isn’t pregnant yet so she doesn’t have access to the munny supply. The woman who sent me to the Red pill also lives here (who I’ve e mailed for a bang) and she literally had just given birth to her second child with a Chicago Law firm partner when she put the baby in a cot and flew back to the U.K. and the poor bastard’s been chained to his desk seeing his kids for a week a year ever since. It took me time to unravel, but under US law he had to pay a given percentage, 30% ish? Under “her share” of his income she bought a £500k house, two cars and funded an au pair girl to look after the kids. And if he didn’t pay he lost his right to practice and gets locked up?

    When I dumped her for kicking my car doors in at midnight and refused to get back together I got a long screed from her. It was his week and he’d flown over. She though I was pissed that he was in town! God. Was she kidding, I felt so sorry for the poor bastard that I wanted to take him out and buy him a barrel of beer.

    Damn the red pill is important.

    As a final note, I can easily bang the date I had, she’s good fun but slightly too big (which I could probably fuck of her actually) Just thinking to take it on temporarily so I don’t get a dry patch when I move back that other women pick up on their radar from a mile away.

    1. Amazing info on UK economy Palma.

      Re your boy, don’t be too hard on him. I see more of this kind of “merge to conformity” takimg hold since COVID in my own son. It’s the relentless brainwashing of the schools, the media, social media dooms rolling and the fucking “experts”.

      It’s tricky to deal with, if you confront it to hard and direct they push back harder cause they are at that age. Pick your spots and use examples as you go about life to get them to think “oh yeah” and let that seed challenge their lockstep thinking.

      But it’s aggravating to have to go at this pace. More “awakening” will take place once they start dealing with life on their own and not in these comfortable bubbles.

      Re your birthday- might you be a Scorpio?

      1. @ Sentient

        I’m actually a Libra / Scorpio cusp and I believe all the woo woo.. especially if it gets me laid.

        So i pulled our compatibility while we were out and she got all super flustered..

        https://imgur.com/a/ScJ6Rcx

        Anyway then I said I’d blagged it, you only have to copy and paste 11 times and all women were a perfect match.

        Couldn’t escalate bc logistics and childcare etc but followed up with this and haven’t replied to her yet bc I’m busy on sofa scratching my balls / watching Clint Eastwood / hanging out in here / on the lockdown sceptics forum.

        https://imgur.com/a/GU0WSKY

        Probably going to bring her over and bang her because she’s good fun and I don’t want a dry spell… other women can definitely smell that on you and it can put you in purdah…

  18. Palma , yes them there those guys are in to deep to keep their word to the public.

    Low interest rates Ponzy schemes , fake crises and inside trades have destroyed retirement saving. Govmt workers city,county,state, fed including military and postal eat up a huge chunk of taxes that aren’t being collected and are guaranteed retirement.

    Some people it seems were overpayed unemployment and are being asked to give it back.

    I heard a rumor that E currency , block chain, g5 satellite tech and E identity are key to the “new world order”. I have long understood that cash is for poor people as everyone else carries a card so for the most part we have been on E currency for some time now. The big pitch will be bailout and the ability to track criminal activity including terorism , drug cartels and cronic tax evaders. Total control of munny. The tech is here, the black swan is here, the people want to be saved the main hold back is security and syncronicity.

    This is why there will be lawless zones as some are to poor to get on board and some won’t give up their freedom for protection and a bowl of ramen. Horse trading will rule and some things can only be aquired with efunds or apropriated by other means.

    My position is these moves will stifle creativity and motivation to the point of negative gdp,constant breakdowns, and more strange behavior. A gated community that locks out the threat of bad mans together with the promise of ambition.

  19. @RedPillDosed

    Thanks for the reply but there’s no way she’s gonna go for charges.

    “next time she says no”

    I’ve been seeing her since April and she’s never said no, and I don’t believe she will ever say no. She comes to my place 2,3,4 times a week purely for sex. Ie we don’t do anything else, she only sees the hallway, bedroom and bathroom. Then she goes. Occasionally we go out and do things but that’s the exception.

    My only risk is if I finish it and she concludes it’s final and there’s nothing to lose by bringing me down. But she’d have to write it off irretrievably for that. None of my exes (since taking TRP post divorce) have done that. They’re all holding it in reserve just in case.

    This is one of my exes that is now living with (and will probably marry) her new BF, I came up on her “timeline” so she pinged me:

    https://imgur.com/a/61D5gEa

    Anyway, how are you getting on converting your wife back to giving you desire sex?

    It can be done and once you’ve flipped it your life will totally change so if you’re out of the day to day shit it’s worth cranking the game up a notch.

    1. @PalmASailor,

      Since I have stopped tolerating the shit tests things have been a lot better. The repayments of the funds removed from the Mortgage have not missed a beat and are proceeding as expected.

      I get a challenge every now and again which I again deal with. For the most part all is well at my end. Also there is more antics of the desire sex…

      Things are improving.

  20. @HABD

    “The discussion turns to women just wanting money

    Who brought THAT up?…lol”

    I don’t remember which one, but they were both “on message”.

    “and one of the two girls say “the first thing they ask is what you do to see if you’ve got any money”.

    mate guarding/competition anxiety…lol”

    I didn’t rate VHF as a 9 bc she’s 30’s and I thought you guys would throw the spaghetti marinara at me for stupidity, but seriously she’s supermodel level. Incredible, top to bottom. The idea that she should have any anxiety at all, looking from a male POV is just absurd. But at the end of the day she’s childless and living with the best BB she could get.

    Damn. I’ve seen mate guarding in real time, my ex wife used to put her hand on my shoulder if we were out at parties with other women, and I used to swat it off. She stopped in the end. Looking back it was after she’d gone through my wardrobe and insisted I throw out almost all my clothes and replaced them with dull shit. But I’d never actually considered the idea that women guard a mate that they don’t actually have yet, ie a POTENTIAL mate.

    Now shit, that redefines a whole load of interactions and relationships looking back for decades.

    Plus looking at this again:

    “and one of the two girls say “the first thing they ask is what you do to see if you’ve got any money”.

    lol.. talk about those two hiding in plain sight..

  21. @PalmaSailor

    @HABD

    “The discussion turns to women just wanting money

    Who brought THAT up?…lol”

    I don’t remember which one, but they were both “on message”.

    “and one of the two girls say “the first thing they ask is what you do to see if you’ve got any money”.

    mate guarding/competition anxiety…lol”

    I didn’t rate VHF as a 9 bc she’s 30’s and I thought you guys would throw the spaghetti marinara at me for stupidity, but seriously she’s supermodel level. Incredible, top to bottom. The idea that she should have any anxiety at all, looking from a male POV is just absurd. But at the end of the day she’s childless and living with the best BB she could get.

    this is one of the hardest ideas for men to choke down… (that RP is bitter…lol)… that a girl that is SOOOO HOOOOT!!!! (<— note the 4!!!! exclamation points…lol) could ever NOT be getting her evo/bio psych needs met in any way shape or form… (and why the old PUA saying about ‘giving her the gift of your attention’ came about…)

    once you understand the AF v BB algo concepts… and that they are mutually exclusive… and almost never able to be fulfilled by one man… you understand that a girl filling one of those needs (most usually BB) is almost always more than open to having the other algo satisfied… you just need to be able to SEE what is right in front of you… and then take appropriate (RP informed) action…

    easy peasy…lol

    Damn. I’ve seen mate guarding in real time, my ex wife used to put her hand on my shoulder if we were out at parties with other women, and I used to swat it off. She stopped in the end. Looking back it was after she’d gone through my wardrobe and insisted I throw out almost all my clothes and replaced them with dull shit. But I’d never actually considered the idea that women guard a mate that they don’t actually have yet, ie a POTENTIAL mate.

    i think @Rollo has a couple OPs on this very topic…lol… the concept is generally know as ‘her plan B’…lol

    https://therationalmale.com/2016/03/14/plan-b/

    note – 43% of girls ADMIT to a plan B dude…lol… if course those girls are going to ‘protect their (future) resource’…lol

    Now shit, that redefines a whole load of interactions and relationships looking back for decades.

    ya, that sh*t’s everywhere… and has been for a looong time… and the knowledge really puts the past into perspective…

    Plus looking at this again:

    “and one of the two girls say “the first thing they ask is what you do to see if you’ve got any money”.

    lol.. talk about those two hiding in plain sight..

    as an aside, this^^ is the mech behind ‘solipsism’… every girl is functioning as AWALT… but they can’t (literally can NOT – it’s like being color blind… physically impossible on a biological level) see themselves in that scenario…lol… because they operate on an unconscious level through feelz… but intellectually they understand what is going on with all those other girls…lol

    therefore, they MUST be a special unique snowflake…lol…

    good luck!

  22. Back to Field Reports…

    Matched up with a late 30-something lawyer (1st red flag). I didn’t ask what she did for work so it came out during the first meeting. Walked around a bit with her dog (2nd red flag) and the conversation was unusually uncomfortable (3rd red flag). It felt as if she had one look at me and had decided Naw. One look at her and I realized I had gotten catfished since she was overweight (4th red flag). She rambles on a bit about politics and ranted on how much she wanted to see Trump die (this was before his covid experience) (5th red flag). At that point I turned the walk back towards my car and ended the meet.

    Ended another relationship with a 25yo black girl I had met a few weeks before. She’d be staying over a couple of times a week and was a real nympho but she was giving me pouting and silent treatments frequently when I said something she didn’t agree with. Was also playing the race card a bit too often for my taste and was overweight so I made the calculation: am I so desperate for sex that I’ll put up with this shit?

    I ended it last week with a polite talk about what I like and what I’m looking for in a partner (which is for sure note another pouty bitch). Drove her back to her place and that’s that.

    Honestly, the best experience I’ve had since my ltr/sb ran off to scientology was a blond wisp of a white 18yo girl/sb weighing barely 100lb that I could throw around the bed as I pleased. I don’t know – sometimes you just get what you pay for.

    1. @DisgruntledEarthling

      Your LTR ran off to scientology…. LOL…. They are evil….. she will get exactly what she deserves there. In my younger days. I was involved with them….. I was chasing after some tail. I left the group when it was obvious that nothing was going to happen.

      But yes. They are evil. It seems to me that a lot more women are overweight. Entitled etc. But hey…. it is a Gynocentric world at the moment.

      Eventually the Pendulum will swing back the other way as more men become RP aware.

      1. Yeah it’s a nit of a joke – she was headed into SeaOrg specifically…
        Unfortunately, we were living together for 2 years and I had fallen for her heavily so I took it rather hard. Drowning my sorrows in a bunch of other pussy helped a bit. She was young, black, thin, sexy, and smart(?). Everything I wanted

        1. Remember that: “She was never Yours, it was just your turn.!”

          Move on to the next. Develop what you want to do with your life. Focus on your own personal improvement. The women will come to you when you do so. Make yourself the centre of your Frame.

          Remember women are there to compliment you. By you being the best version of yourself. You compliment them. So focus on what you will look like, Next week, next Month, Year, etc.

          Remember that women wait at the finish line. They can have their own work etc but if you focus on them and reward them for shit tests that they throw at you then you become their dog… they dont look after them s they get bored and look for an AF.

    1. I would think that you need to develop your Frame better. Although I am not the best one to guide you on that.

      So with that said I will put the following Caveat. Everyone else will be free, as they are, to correct me.

      If you can see a Midget Spanking the ass of some 8 or so woman b/c he is well off financially then the same can be for you as well.

      Looks play some part in attraction but the Hypergamy Miindset will mean that if you work to be the best version of yourself. Confident in who you are. Own what you look like. You will find that women will still want to hang off you.

      But always remember that they are there to compliment you. Not the other way around. Dont put up with any attitude.

      Look to what your goals are. Take AIM, Lock and load. Then Keep shooting your way forward. Navigate your way around what you cant shoot through and keep going. If you reach your goal. Look for another one.

      You will find that women will gravitate toward you once you reach this mindset.

      Chopper Reid (famous Australian Criminal) cut off his own ears.After he got out of Jail. I bet he was still pulling the women in with his AF bad boy frame.

      I dont admire him……. but he didnt GAF about the FEELZ.

      Neither should you.

      I will now hand over to others who are a heck more Red Pill concentrated than me.

  23. Mini-FR:
    I’m in a hotel abroad for some days already and yesterday the girl that is taking the room number before I get breakfast goes “I don’t remember your room number”.
    My room is 916 so I tell her, and then go with my fingers “Look…” and draw the numbers in the air “9I6… If you spin it around you get the same number…” and she looks at me for a bit so I do it again and she goes “ooh I see”. I smile and go “Tomorrow you will remember” and wink.
    I get breakfast finish breakfast (my older female colleague from work is around and joined my table) and I go out and the girl says goodbye and I nod at her.

    Indeed today I get there, same girl and she goes “916” and I go “Told you you’d remember”. I get breakfast (served by the male cook). My older female colleague joins me. When I go to get some fruit etc. she serves me (this happens normally when the cook is inside, it wasn’t just for me) and goes “I think I’ll remember your room number the rest of my life…” I smile, look at her and shrug my shoulders.
    Again when I finish I leave and this girl is smiling (under the mask but I can tell) and we say goodbye from a distance.

    I’m fairly sure she is into me. I’d like to pull. If she is there tomorrow morning (and still remembers my number) I can try to get her number / logistics on days off / shift etc. before my older female colleague arrives and when the cook isn’t around.
    Even if I succeed in getting it that far, given that she works here I imagine it isn’t ideal to bring her back to the hotel as the front desk colleagues probably know her?
    Although it would be funny to make sure she does remember my room number the rest of her life…

    Advice?

    1. Been in this situation, management generally don’t want staff hanging around on the property. Also she may not have a change of clothes from her uniform if you are thinking of bouncing her. So plan on a time bridge to a different place and see location. But yeah first things first, attraction and number…

  24. @IAS

    You gotta run it through the numbers, DHV – make her laugh until you get a couple of IOI’s then you gotta venue bounce to get her alone somewhere (bar?) and progress from there.

  25. Hi guys,can you help with something, please?

    I’ve been chatting with this girl on whatsapp ( got her number off OLD ) and was gonna meet last week, however i didn’t feel confident enough that day, lol, ( I know how it sounds), so i said to her that couldn’t make it.

    Here are the texts:

    Last week on Wed, when we were gonna meet:
    Me: “Hey, something came up, so can’t meet today, rain check?”
    Her: “No problem. I made plans anyway because I hadn’t heard from you”

    Yesterday
    Me: “I can do tomorrow or Thur”
    Her: “I can’t, and I m not sure you are overly interested anyway (cold sweat emoji )”
    Me: “Hahah, why would I ask if not interested :D. Plus, I have to hear how you speak bulgarian, its quite interesting. [turns out she knows quite a lot, cuz her father remaried and has been living actually in my hometown past 10 years, she goes there every summer, etc, etc,. so she is learning the language ] Ok, tell me what days you can do, then.”

    So, no answer from her all day, which was weird as she would answer quite quick normally. I couldn’t see her “last seen” on whatsapp so I assumed she deleted me, lol, so I just sent her this today : “B, Where you hiding 😀 ?”

    And she answered to my text about being interested: “To fill time? Maybe? Just most people who want a date tend to keep in touch ;). I am actually free all of next week. It’s half term. Can’t do Mon or Tue evening though unless there’s no netball. I do however have a date tonight…”

    So, my question is how to approach this? Why is she saying she has a date tonight instead of just say that she is busy, what’s the meaning? Is it a shit test to see how I react and if so what should i say?
    Btw, this is the 3rd time last 2 months i flake on girls, I see them as cute and don’t feel like I’d be good enough/confident when we meet, so I am trying to fix it.

    Thanks

    1. Her: “I can’t, and I m not sure you are overly interested anyway (cold sweat emoji )”
      To me this comes across as a shit test.

      You should have ignored this and responded with “You’ve told me of your Bulgarian Oral skills so they need to be demonstrated and I am your Judge on this.”

      “Me: “Hahah, why would I ask if not interested”….

      Why are you chasing her…

      …..”Why is she saying she has a date tonight instead of just say that she is busy, what’s the meaning? Is it a shit test to see how I react and if so what should i say?”

      Yes shit test. She is signaling to you that she is possibly regulating you as BB.

      Don’t Flake on them. They will pick up on it.

      I would ignore her comment about being on a date or reply back saying that “You should eat more than one date as they are good for you. I have a banana and some nuts here for you which will help put you in a better mood.”

      I will as always defer to others who are more Red Pill Concentrated than me for further Critique.

  26. @Stefan

    “Hi guys,can you help with something, please?”

    Ok I’ll give it a go

    “I’ve been chatting with this girl on whatsapp ( got her number off OLD ) and was gonna meet last week, however i didn’t feel confident enough that day, lol, ( I know how it sounds), so i said to her that couldn’t make it.”

    Muh… quite by accident you cancelled the date which was a DHV. But sort that shit out in your head.

    “Here are the texts:
    Last week on Wed, when we were gonna meet:

    Me: “Hey, something came up, so can’t meet today, rain check?”
    Her: “No problem. I made plans anyway because I hadn’t heard from you”
    Yesterday”

    She’s butthurt and the made plans anyway is an ego defence but there are obv other guys.

    “Me: “I can do tomorrow or Thur”

    Errr. No. Now she’s gonna punish you bc you don’t have enough DHV at this stage.

    Her: “I can’t, and I m not sure you are overly interested anyway (cold sweat emoji )”

    Butthurt and shit test

    “Me: “Hahah, why would I ask if not interested :D. “

    Not quite a shit test pass but not a terminal fail.

    “Plus, I have to hear how you speak bulgarian, its quite interesting.”

    Make her qualify – probably saved you from the above – just

    “[turns out she knows quite a lot, cuz her father remaried and has been living actually in my hometown past 10 years, she goes there every summer, etc, etc,. so she is learning the language ] Ok, tell me what days you can do, then.”

    “So, no answer from her all day, which was weird as she would answer quite quick normally. “

    She’s probably busy sucking some other guys cock that busted a move.

    “I couldn’t see her “last seen” on whatsapp so I assumed she deleted me, lol, so I just sent her this today : “B, Where you hiding?”

    That’s your self esteem and she’ll pick that up 100 miles away

    “And she answered to my text about being interested: “To fill time? Maybe? Just most people who want a date tend to keep in touch ;). “

    Shit test

    “I am actually free all of next week. It’s half term. Can’t do Mon or Tue evening though unless there’s no netball. I do however have a date tonight…”

    SHIT TEST!! Buuuut she probably has got a date. He’s probably a chump. Correct response “brilliant news, if you marry that guy I’ll be forever mortified, but I’ll come to the wedding anyway as long as it’s free beer and you promise to sit me next to your hottest bridesmaid”

    “So, my question is how to approach this? Why is she saying she has a date tonight instead of just say that she is busy, what’s the meaning? Is it a shit test to see how I react and if so what should i say?”

    Yes it is a shit test and say that ^^^

    Btw, this is the 3rd time last 2 months i flake on girls, I see them as cute and don’t feel like I’d be good enough/confident when we meet, so I am trying to fix it.

    We’ll sort that shit out in your head. If I can give my time away free to reply, the least you can do is go on the fuckin date and give it a shot.

  27. Plus

    “I m not sure you are overly interested anyway (cold sweat emoji )”

    Prob got low self esteem. So watch out for the negs.

    1. lol @ that mail article. The details matter as always. He obviously escalated but wasn’t too good on the logistics. She lives alone with her Pomeranian, in the US that’s coming to be called “dog mom” – similar to “cat lady”.

      A clue to the impulsive “pull him on top while lying on the pavement” behavior:

      ‘She has medication for bipolar and personality disorder and taking particularly strong alcohol is likely to have led to this situation happening and it’s highly embarrassing for her.

  28. FR update:

    I failed and thought I should own up to it.

    Hotel girl: next morning she isn’t there. Also not there the following day. Lesson to learn: don’t waste opportunities.

    Eventually she is back after two days away, still remembers my room. Unfortunately my colleague is already waiting for me at the table and the Chef is around. I ask for something that is low on stock and the chef goes into the kitchen to get more, while I wait for the chef to get something for me I go to hotel girl – and go “Hey what you doing?” she is folding napkins around cutlery so I say “Ah folding napkins” and she goes “Yes, like origami ahah” “Can I get a napkin?” she goes sure and gives me one then says “you can also get one from over there” (or whatever) and I just smile, collect my breakfast and go to the table with my colleague. I fold the napkin into an origami, notice the Chef is inside the kitchen again and go “Excuse me I’ll just go do something charming” and go give the girl the folded napkin. She lights up (behind the mask) and giggles and takes it… And like an idiot I don’t ask her what time she gets off. Eat breakfast, arrange a meeting time to rejoin my colleague and wait for her to go away. Get up and start heading for hotel girl, who passes by and goes inside the kitchen to go do something else, giving me a very enthusiastic “Have a nice day!”. I say “yes to you too” and curse myself for wimping out earlier. Lesson to learn: don’t waste opportunities.

    I arrange a meeting with some other girl I knew before on my previous visits and had appeared really keen on me before but I had shitty logistics; unfortunately she is on surgery recovery and I know it is going to be uphill to lay her. This time she had been giving me info on logistics almost unprompted (address, mentioning she is staying there alone, mentioning ex boyfriend so I know she is single, several green lights) but then after the surgery she isn’t feeling so good (not super surprising) so I waited a few days until she felt a little bit better and decided to try it at last chance as she tells me she is feeling a bit better and would like to actually get out of the house a bit. As I’m going out to meet this girl I get out of the hotel and through the window I notice hotel girl is alone in the breakfast area. I briefly wonder if I should backtrack and try to do something but I’m a bit pressed for time with surgery girl and wimp out on making a move on hotel girl… Again.
    With surgery girl I go up to the place she is staying, then we go for a walk in a park, put arm around her while sitting in a park bench with no resistance, I say I’m getting hungry lets go back. Back at her place I eat something I brought but she isn’t hungry and goes to rest in bed and I sit in bed with her for a while, get out my laptop and pull up a DHV video of me doing something and get real close to her to show it, and then she looks at the time and goes “Ah sorry IAS I have to kick you out soon because I need to do this and that bla bla”.
    I don’t try anything more after that, give her a hug and we talk about visiting next time I’m around. I think it is actually quite possibly on the next time if she is in her own place and not on recovery, but each time is a new time… We will see.

    1. IAS

      “Lesson to learn: don’t waste opportunities.”

      You are the cusp a of great breakthrough. When the pain of regret outweighs the fear of approaching you are turning the corner. This is how uou become a “walking hard on” and start to project that sexy energy and when every interaction becomes game.

      Onward

  29. @IAS

    ““Excuse me I’ll just go do something charming” and go give the girl the folded napkin. She lights up (behind the mask) and giggles and takes it…””

    I’ll look at the whole thing later but this stuck out. You issued an unearned IOI.

    Whenever I’ve accidentally done this I’ve never got first base and been blown out cold. The hamster puts you below her bc you did something for her that she didn’t earn.

    I know you probably attempted it as a DHV but I think giving it to her blew that. So possibly go through the motions, watch her face lite up in future but then take it back – “thanks for your opinion – it’s for my niece”

  30. Mini FR.

    so I’m back at home now and there were a couple of interesting things on my last day abroad.

    The first is a bit stupid but I still want to write it out.

    Straight in front of my hotel room there was a girl who opened up the curtains wide. I saw her go around her living room many times in the morning because the desk in my room is facing my window so that is where I spend my time, in the computer. She has a huge mirror at the back of the living room which confused me the first time as it looked like there were two persons there until I figured it out. I didn’t pretend to not be looking but also wasn’t staring. The visibility as you can imagine wasn’t perfect.
    Anyway, in the last day I had opened my own and because I was traveling took a shower in the morning, and was walking around my room naked. She was in front and I wondered if she saw me topless (well I was naked but she couldn’t see the legs, may have been noticeable I was naked though). I got dressed and am making some time before I go for breakfast.

    At a certain stage she is not super close to her window and changes out of her top, facing sideways quite precisely, in front of the mirror. I can see her profile very distinctly and it is easy to discern her silhouette and reflection – she is topless and has perky, nicely sized boobs. She dresses some top and comes closer to the window, has breakfast.

    Later she is again not very close to the window and is bending forward and shaking a bit. This makes me curious and it takes me a bit to realize she is again changing. This time she is undressing her pajama pants. Then she comes closer to the window – on her panties – and sexily dresses other trousers. Then she goes elsewhere, comes back with a toothbrush in her mouth and brushes her teeth there close to the window.
    Later she is dabbing on some perfume or something. I was already wondering about it and now think there is a high likelihood she is putting on a show for me.

    Then she puts on a jacket… I decide that if I can figure out that she was seeing me, I’ll try to meet her downstairs. So I join in. I get up put on a jacket and I smile. Then she sits for a while.

    I take off my jacket, then my shirt and start applying some cream while topless (central heating in the hotel dries my skin a lot). It looks like she is watching. I get my shirt back on.
    She comes out to her balcony and I can see her better without the reflections on her window (she had done this earlier but I don’t remember if it was after her topless move, or after brushing teeth, or when). She goes back inside.

    I brainstorm myself and think about writing a huge “HI” on my Computer to show her, but as I’m getting ready for this she gets up, applies some perfume (or something) again, puts on another jacket, a scarf. Clearly she is getting out. I smile broadly. I get up and get my jacket on.
    She comes close to the window and actually waves goodbye at me (I didn’t get to show the “HI”). I wave back and keep smiling. She goes out and I go out and try to spot her but no luck. Really put a smile on my face though.

  31. Mini FR:
    Second one was on the plane fairly standard.

    Girl arrives after me to board the plane, I EC her on entry, and she happens to sit on my row. It is just me on the left, just her on the right. Each of us has the 3 seats to ourselves in one of the emergency row.

    During maybe half the flight I’m doing something else and I do some EC with her ocasionally but nothing special.

    At a certain stage I’m getting ready to go to the bathroom (I think I grabbed some fruit from my backpack) and she gets up to get something from her bag and I spot some drawings. I go to the bathroom and she comes after me. When I get out of the bathroom she goes in.
    Back on my seat I peek at her drawings and wait for her to come back.

    She buckles in grab sketches and I open her, cold reading her job (it was kind of easy with the drawings). I’m in… She congratulates me on the guess, I say I didn’t have to be a genius but she is impressed. So we are talking with masks on and she is like on her window and me on the aisle she is leaning quite in and I’m more neutral and I go “If you don’t mind” and I move to her row’s aisle. I get logistics on where she is going (not my city). Good news is she is living in the country, bad news is not my city. We get talking about the sports we do (she looked like a sporty type and she dropped it in the conversation early, as it was related with the location she is staying).

    The row in front has mom, daughter (maybe 10-12 years old?) and dad, and the daughter stands up on her seat and looks back at me smiling. I smile at the kid and nod.
    I was probably DHVing a bit without thinking too much about it and the bored girl was also interested in some entertainment I guess. Anyway sporty girl mentions something about sponsor (presumably she is qualifying) and I’m like “Oh you are good then?” and she goes “I don’t usually mention it” or something (riiight). I tell her “show me some pics of you doing it!” and she starts going through her phone showing me some stuff, talking about her dog (which her ex fiancee is keeping even though she was the one who adopted) etc. I grab my computer and show her some of my videos and photos of my sports to DHV a bit more.
    I number close her easily telling her we should get in touch when she comes by my city.
    I see a photo with her dog (not with her) that I really liked and tell her “Send me that one later!” she goes “Sure” (kind of a time bridge). Lets see if she does send it.
    I chat for a bit more, she talks also a bit about her work (which she clearly likes). I already got the number so after a bit more chatting I go “I’ll let you get some work done and I will go rest for a bit”. I get back to my own row, get out of my shoes and lay back on the 3 seats, close my eyes and take a rest.

    Not sure much will come from this but it was good practice and it was a great way to pass the time on the flight.

  32. @Sentient

    Update on the U.K. economy.

    The VAT figures are “running late” and there’s no reason because all the returns are done electronically so they have the numbers on an instantaneous basis. But perhaps they’re shitting themselves about how to spin it / how much they can fudge it.

    https://imgur.com/a/NzV2pTr

    Plus – there were still 9.6M people furloughed as at 18th October. This month end is their last payday subsidised by the state. And they haven’t worked since March.

    There have been various “surveys” and “articles” suggesting that “the bulk were back to work” but it appears – actually – nah.. the numbers haven’t changed.

    I could be wrong but I don’t think there’s enough of a fundamental economy left to tax. All this talk about taxes in the years to come to pay for da’pocalypse is just that, talk.

  33. @Palma

    Thanks for that, it kinda worked but still it seems like a done deal.
    Here is the conversation after I told her about wedding and bridesmaids(what you gave me):

    Her: laughing emojis, hottest bridesmaid or hottest single bridesmaid?
    Me: laugh emoji
    Her: between both of them

    Then we didn’t chat for 3 days and yesterday I asked her about her netball stuff and then we banter for a bit about work and robbing banks,etc. Then I say this:
    Me: Since you are doing the netball these days, how’s Wed to get them drinks, say 6pm? I hope you know a good place in B.
    Her: Depends why you want drinks, might be a touch late for a date

    Then I told her I could do coffee, bla bla, I thought she meant literally too late but then she says:
    Her: I more meant you might have missed your chance, also I m busy Wed

    Me: Yet, you are still talking to me 😀
    Her: For some reason

    Me: Yeah, I think you are curious
    Her: Maybe, or I like to self sabotage

    Then she says she needs to come to my city to get to a shop and says: And I’d probably get thirsty, I guess.

    Then I banter I know a place with amazing water, bla bla, she banters back a bit about covid and not mixing inside, etc.
    The she says her shop is open 10-4 and I say to meet in town square at 2, she says she will do her best.

    Now today, just 2h before the meet she says:
    Her: So, I m going to cancel. I dont think I want to go to A [my city] today, and I also like the guy I’m seeing so its a bit of a dick move if I see you with any date-like intentions. Sorry (some weird emoji )

    I just gave her a thumbs up and that’s it.

    So, seems its a done deal, doensn’t it? I missed my chance, lol, I regret now, cuz seems like a cool, fun girl, plus she is learning my language I could’ve used it as a contextual alpha or something since I know something she is interested in and is learning. I think this was quite the opportunity, plus she is fit 24 yo, would’ve been goooooood.

  34. @Stefan: you definitely failed a shit test when she went “a bit late for a date” and you said you were ok with a coffee.

    She knew the drinks were for fucking after, you knew the drinks were for fucking after, you had to show her you were confident about it and that is what you wanted and that it was fine. If she didn’t want to, then you have better things to do. And unless she thinks you are super high value, you had to convey this meaning to her without directly telling her all this.

    And then if she shows up and you don’t mess up, you get the bang.

    You could have teased her with “Who told you this was a date?” or “This, late? Your parents put you on a curfew or something?” and put HER on the spot and lead. You let her lead you and then she loses interest.

  35. @IAS
    Hotel girl: next morning she isn’t there. Also not there the following day. Lesson to learn: don’t waste opportunities.

    Scratch that surface. Remember how your planning was in the way of “discovering the truth of the situation” with the two birds at your place?

    I’ll follow my gut and assume your perception of “wasted opportunities” is only in relation to the breakfast girl. But these were only a few small windows within a week of you being in this city. A tiny fraction of what could have been. The real opportunity cost was… not creating more opportunities. In that lobby, on that street, in that city. Morning, afternoon, evening. How many times did you go out to explore and see what could happen?

    Think about how opportunities are created. Not when a window is open because a girl smiled, but how you become open to exploring and actively giving the world little nudges here and there as you go along your day. Eventually, so much more becomes possible. Because you’re unblocking new ways of thinking about what’s in front of you and connecting the dots. Warming the environment towards you. Creating new contacts and relationships. Building your network. Starting new ventures. You don’t come up with new ideas by sitting in your room. You do it by engaging with the world and seeing where it sparks or needs you. It’s a skill and – as any skill – needs to be developed.

    When we have only a limited view of our options = limit ourselves to seeing only one or two them, it creates anxiety of “what if I fck it up”. It becomes scary to make a misstep and lose the opportunity. So we plan, scenario build and fixate on precise ways things should fall into place. But you know that a plan rarely goes according to plan. Which creates more anxiety and hesitation. The part of the brain responsible for execution disengages to let the logical part re-analyze and re-plan… half way through you busting a move… lol…

    It’s the difference between having a plan and being prepared = being open to peeling back the layers of what’s in front of you and teasing it. You have a good understanding of the laws of evo-bio-psych and can sort out your logistics anywhere. What else do you need? If you don’t want to be in your head when it matters, then…. ? You saw the difference in your mini FRs.

    Soooo… what was your opportunity cost?
    You’ve got your shoes on yet? lol

  36. So something hilarious has cropped up.

    I’ve moved out of the people’s republic of ghey (PRG) and now live back where I used to in what we call “the shires”.

    Anyway when @IAS came down to the PRG we went out to a meet up and I got a smack around the face by the hostess. She queried why my beard was grey, and I said “because the women I deal with have sucked all the pigment out through my cock”. I got an instant slap. (Shit test) which I think I passed bc I didn’t bat an eyelid and just smiled at her.

    After a bit we bounced location bc @IAS didn’t like (deservedly) the older woman in the set who had homed in on him. We could have worked her as a pivot but there wasn’t any point as no other candidates for him so we moved on and crashed a hen night.

    I knew the slapper also ran a meet-up in London near me because she travels between the two locations. Working in London and staying with her daughter in the PRG at weekends. The london meet-ups are always her and a load of chumps lining up for her attention and hardly any women.

    Anyway roll on da’pocalypse and there’s a meet up near my new place on Friday night and because of the REGULATIONS it’s limited to 6 attendees. Plus because of flakiness etc.. you have to pay in advance at RSVP. So they’ve all paid and so have I.

    So I’m looking at the attendees on the meetup at the Italian restaurant and it’s 4 women so far. Looking at the women, and there’s a blonde and I’m thinking “ I know you”.. and then I remember, I already banged her 😂. She was hot but from memory I didn’t keep her in orbit bc I thought she was nuts and I had others on the go. She was mid 30’s and she’d claimed she’d only had one previous bf that she’d met on a uniform dating site. I remember I thought “yer right. You’ve banged the entire battalion” at the time.

    So it’s me, one woman that’s slapped me round the face, and one I’ve already banged plus two would bangs. There’s one free space and I’ll bet that none of the men have the balls to walk into a group on those ratios so it will be filled with another woman.

    So I want to bang either or both of the two I don’t know. And would bang the “slapper” host at a pinch. My gut is that she is hardcore BB filtering. I’d met her at prev meet-ups and tried to isolate her but she always had a “time slot” allocated to give her an exit so I always blew it up and didn’t play. I just have never believed there isn’t some tatted AF badass tapping that in the background and she had me in the BB category.

    Communication has been on and off over the months since she slapped me as shown here:

    https://imgur.com/a/uVVMUjC

    I opened her after a period of time may 5th 2019 because she’d posted a new event, she replied that she’d been getting others to host (too busy getting banged out by Chad) but said she thought she’d come and do another weekend (got dumped by Chad and needs a new one / or BB provisioning).

    Then I ignored and she hit me up Feb 13th (day before valentines bc she’s so ronery!! Lol)

    I ignored that.

    Then she had a meet up event in the PRG which I went to on Mar 6th 2020, but I walked in, took one look at the attendees, and walked out without speaking to her or anyone else. She texted me at 8.59 the same evening which I ignored. I then texted her the next day at 10.22 AM inviting her over which she ignored.

    So there’s a hardcore frame battle going on here and I haven’t had enough DHV to win it on AF terms YET. I know for a fact that she’s been out with much older and frankly gross men bc she’s sussing them out for munny. The script is the same. She goes out with a time limit bc she’s gotta be back, she drives and doesn’t drink much, but collects them or drops them back so she can check out their place.

    Anyway I’m not doing that.

    Logistics are “OK” back to my place but I’m gonna have to drive which means almost no drinking for me, of course I could “give anyone a lift” home.

    At the moment the plan is to enter the group like I own it, be super happy friendly with the hostess who slapped me – she’ll be happy friendly back, perhaps I’ll lead and try to get another slap as an opener – I’ve been growing some grey stubble just fit her, then greet the one I banged like a long lost friend?

    Any suggestions..

    Need a bit of fun. Posted here to put myself under pressure!

    1. Do it by the numbers Palma… DHV to the girls (how about some yacht sailing stories), ignore, neg the target, work the pre-election and jealousy plot lines… then when she is grabbing your arm for attention work her and isolate. A firm hand/challenge may work here “time to cut the bullshit” when the moment is right.

  37. @Sentient

    “DHV to the girls (how about some yacht sailing stories)”

    Well.. since you mention it, I did get caught in a storm that damaged the rigging and threw me across the boat – I head butted the gps and smashed it.. then it got properly heavy and serious because I couldn’t tell if I was making way so o called out the RNLI.. which is shameful. But I was on my own.

    There was a lot more too it becaus I couldn’t give them GPS co ordinates I had to send up a flare etc.. and I couldn’t read the GPS co ordinates from the ray marine because writing too small and my glasses were in the vomit in the bottom of the cabin etc… which I couldn’t get to because too rough.

    So they came out and towed me in to the applause of the yachties who were standing at the docks with a bottle of scotch. Apparently they get their fun from listening to CH16 which is the emergency channel..

    But I was thinking any reference to that is a bit too beta buxy?

    1. PAlma

      Plenty of wealthy guys avoid the BB trap. It’s all frame. You are perhaps a bit over sensitive to this. Consider SHE might think you are BB, at first, but you then prove otherwise in your actions and behavior.

      Alpha </> Poor

      Money can serve as a form of pre-election cause she knows all the other gold digging sluts will give it up for a shot at the 💵 💸💰

  38. ^^ actually when they got me in the RNLI bloke said “you ever thought about taking up golf skipper?!”

    That’s his standard line. I told him I couldn’t bc my ex wife got my balls..

    1. Ooh you have a yacht!!!??? How big is it???

      Palma : Easy tiger, slow your roll… you a size queen? [Laser] They say it’s not the size of the ship but the motion of the ocean. Right? But we’ll see how you play your cards, maybe you’ll find out, maybe not. Tell me something about you know one else knows…

      Etc.

  39. @Sentient

    Everything shuts at 10 here at the moment, and they’re just itching to get us totally locked down again.

    Some of these women haven’t had any male attention for months and months bc exactly the type of virtue signalling allies that would normally be all over them are the ones that are shitting the bed about da’pocalypse and neurotically hiding. Numbers are up on the event and she’s got 2 tables now (2x groups of six) so I’ll have to get on the right table or I’ll end up in all out war with the COVID police if I try to change tables mid event.

    There’s left wing women advertising on a conservative forum for lockdown sceptics. Plus the mask thing, they’re all having to cover their faces so it’s interesting times that’s for sure.

  40. I dont like the nested replies. So IAS et al here is an example of “testing the truth of the situation”.

    A few weeks ago went to a pub with a buddy. New bar maid. Got some eyes a few times and eventually she comes down and asks if we know each other. She saying I look very familiar etc. Now usually I ask if she watches porn with this kind of open. But my WK buddy would freak so I just played it down with “I have that kind of face” and laser. She ends up keeping coming back over and chattingand teasing etc. Eventu she asks my name and we do the name thing. WK buddy is getting a bit anxious she keeps giving me attention. Late 20s rocking bod. I keep catching her looking back over at me while she’s over the other side doing stuff. So some good iois. Eventually it comes out from WK buddy questioning she lives with a guy, good professional dood. So I would have flirted a bit more and tested her but some other guy rang us out and we left.

    Saw her next the other night. She tries to play the “remind me of your name” shit test and I’m like please with that uou know it. She asks if I know hers I say yeah but I have an exceptional memory. So then she says my name. Lol… anyhow with same guy, we settle in and she comes down and is chatting. I met her a bit a few times, little too strong. She says I’m very aggressive lol… but she keeps coming round to chat and doing the look from across the room. Etc. So while the game is subpar and I know it I figure what the he’ll take a shot. We cash out and she is cleaning up outside I go out buddy hits the head. We look at each other a minute as she is cleaning up a table, I lean back against the wall and say ” so when are we going out for a drink”. She says “I’m going home tonight right after this” I laugh at her and say “didn’t say tonight. Some other night”. She stops cleaning and comes over, I’m leaning back leg up on the wall arms crossed full laser.

    She says “I’m not single, so I can’t do that”. I smirk at her and say oh yeah? Just chill leaning back. She says “thanks for asking me though” and I chuckle at that. I see wk buddy coming tell her “have a good one” she goes in as he comes out.

    Now there was a lot of meat left n on the bone there. For one that wasn’t a “I don’t want to” so a bit of opening. I just left it. Stopped gaming, rushed things a bit. Litle rusty.

    Anyhow that’s that for round one. One could think ooohhhh blown out. Or one can think well it’s out there. Bottom line I’m somethkng of a threat, not just some chump staring at her tips all night.

    And who knows maybe there will be a round two down the road. Next time her dood may have passed her off, or she’s horny or my game is tight…

    Never bad idea to put it out there and test the truth of a situation.

  41. @Sentient

    In haste as I’m going out

    “thanks for asking me though” = huge IOI

    What she means is “convince me you’re secret society compliant”

    It’s not a rejection, it’s a request for more information

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