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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Palmasailor
Palmasailor
10 months ago

@chunkymonkey “I believe you and your girlfriends are mutually manipulating each other. “ Get a glass of water to make sure you don’t choke on that red pill.. lol.. Well, I think you’re just seeing it for what it is. Since the dawn of time women have had men raise children that aren’t theirs because they couldn’t consolidate on their preferred mate choice. She got the seed of the man she wanted for species survival but couldn’t get his commitment, so she was forced into plan B. Amongst themselves women openly discuss this. “I believe the woman who is still… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  Palmasailor

Chunky

Aren’t you the 6’4″ masters swimmer? What’s going on with you?

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago

Pass this on for amusement. Stepped out early evening other night. Head into the local solo. Walking by the bar looking for a seat my arm is tugged from a low table. Turn around and its the husband of a woman involved around with and her. She says hey come join us. In play up the whole not interfering with “date night” thing. Emphasizing how cute it is etc. See an empty bar seat right across from them. It’s next to a good looking woman I know, who stopped by walking her dog a few months ago to tell me… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
10 months ago

@Sentient I haven’t been able to swim for a while now. I’ve not been well. I’m trying to make some plans and I’m asking a few hard questions that to be honest I never really resolved. @Palma, I didn’t really have anymore to say about your ex-wife or ex-girlfriend, but if you want an answer, I can’t say why your ex-wife hates you, unless of you did something pretty egregious to her in the past (like commit a serious crime against her), which I don’t think you did. Whilst your ex-girlfriend and your ex-wife have evolutionary urges, I’m questioning whether… Read more »

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

@Sentient
LOL

6:45 was the first spot he could have got the kiss… there were a couple of others… And those were great spikes, not faked…

This one at 4:41 is pretty funny too… with the big reveal at 11:16 (note the kino lol):

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

@ChunkyMonkey

Sounds like a bigger struggle, buddy. Need a fresh mind to think about how to address it.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@ChubkyMonkey “Did I know that women will slaughter/despise a man for showing weakness? I was bought up to believe that women were irrational, cruel, and completely justified for doing so, for any reason that they saw fit, and that I was responsible for their emotions. I don’t believe that anymore.” The “reason they see fit” is the subconscious hindbrain filtering out losers, in favour of winners that can protect them. So, it looks like you were bought up red pill and you’ve turned blue pill. It’s for you / us to manage them. Of course you could “expect” some standards… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Sentient “Had to be delicate in declining because she was getting g a bit unglued that I declined her” All you gotta do is flick some wine at her – sorts that shit straight out lol “and she says yeah she had no idea this is his thing.” Nah not swallowing that she’s DHV’ing herself (DLV’ing him) in front of you to imply her SMV is higher than his – ergo she’s in for a shot with you. “she usually has her hand on his leg and he is always very protective and draped all over her.” I’ve seen this… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

^^ so what I forgot to say was – dog woman wasn’t banging her husband. Secret Society game?

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Yeah I’ve been trying to distance myself from her. Put her in the friend zone. Every few months she texts and tries to reinitiate contact.

Silent Bob
Silent Bob
10 months ago

Palma, your ex reminds me of a friends ex wife. A total control freak and BPD. He got sole custody in court because everyone instantly sees she’s crazy, but she still managed to mentally poison the kids against him to want to stay with her. And he gave up in the end and let them, there was no other choice. He just had to hope things will turn around eventually. And this year they started to, the kids are maybe 10 and 12 or around that age and they themselves started to pick up that she’s mental and now want… Read more »

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
10 months ago

Hi guys! Here’s the report about Tuesday night. Tuesday noon the target asked if 8:30 was ok, I replied with something like “sounds acceptable”. At about 7:30 I realised I missed some soda for making spritzer (is that noun correct? It’s a mix of wine and soda), as people usually prefer that over pure cider, which can have a little hard taste. At around 8:40 they arrived, we went around the place a bit, they were somehow impressed as I live in the 7th floor of the dormitory with nicest view over the area. We sat down, had some cider… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  NoNameNumber1

I met target’s friend again and you could tell from her face how staggered she was about me just carrying two other girls into my room.

This.

Have you read Mystery Method yet? The Game is constantly on. Pawns, pivots, merging, jealousy plots, pre-election etc.

See the room. This goes for tactical decisions like seating etc.

Keep going.

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Well, I always wanted to read it, but as a cheap student I hesitated and read Magic Bullets (which I got from here). Am probably gonna purchase it the next days, as well as “The Game” if you can recommend that.

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Thx!

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

@ChunkyMonkey I was pondering on how to respond to you, but I don’t think you need more words. You need different reference experiences. Which you get only when you act/do. Sounds like you’ve spent years building logical structures that explain why the world makes you feel a certain way and justify what you’ve decided to do about it. Which is fuck all if you put the locus of control outside yourself. It’s “feelz over realz” for men. There are many little tells in your writing showing that you’ve retreated to your comfort zone (despite not being happy about it); that… Read more »

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

Good stuff @NoNameNumber1 build the momentum with all of them and enjoy the process.

@Palma (on dogs), you reminded me of a peculiar corner of the internetz:
https://incels.wiki/w/Dogpill
lolz

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@SilentBob “It’s a control thing, she hates you because she can’t control you anymore and still sees you as high value.” Yep I’m quite sure that’s where it’s at. And I didn’t really think of the ramifications from their point of view, this stuff literally defines the rest of their lives. My dad used to say “if she marries a dustman she’s a dustmans wife, but if she marries a prince she’s a princess” And you only have to look at how the SMV flips. Yeah my ex wife Is with some guy that doesn’t do it for her. And… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

My punishment would be eternal if she could inflict it. On the late Spearhead site I recall a man commenting a few years ago about his frivorce. It was the usual unhaaaapiness. He was surprised to find that she had kept dragging out the legal aspects; there really wasn’t any financial gain to it, but she kept slow-walking some things. His attorney was female, and one day she explained to him that basically his ex wanted to make the process last as long as it could, because it meant he was being told “Bad man!” over and over again. It… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Anonymous Reader

“That man was one of several over years at Spearhead who reported how after his child(ren) got out from under their mother’s thumb, they came to realize a few things, and he got along with those children better. But it took a few years.”

Thanks for that. Sometimes I need reminding..

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
10 months ago

@PalmaSailor “The “reason they see fit” is the subconscious hindbrain filtering out losers, in favour of winners that can protect them. So, it looks like you were bought up red pill and you’ve turned blue pill.” Do you include in that women who behave like that toward their own children? I don’t think it’s the job of little children to protect their mothers. Do you think you are responsible for what your ex-wife is doing to your son? I don’t think you are. I have a friend in a very similar situation to you, luckily he was never married to… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
10 months ago

@PalmaSailor @Anonymous Reader “That man was one of several over years at Spearhead who reported how after his child(ren) got out from under their mother’s thumb, they came to realize a few things, and he got along with those children better. But it took a few years.” Thanks for that. Sometimes I need reminding.. +1 on @AR’s advice… i’ve had several buddies that have gone through the same situs… most of them end up with a good relationship with their kids… it seems to work out that the more the man reacts (confirming mom’s opinion) the less good the relationship… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago

Living wellness the best revenge.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

So online dating this is the text exchange – as we speak she’s coming over tomorrow night apparently. https://imgur.com/a/4QRQzxn I have to say I’m not taking it the online thing very seriously, but it has to be said, lockdown has made it totally different – women are VERY keen to meet and this one is supposedly 31 and 5’10” and lives in Chelsea – which is a red flag. Most people claim to live there don’t / it’s a gambit from a prostitute. I don’t want some butter in my place but you boys could vote on whether I should… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

**^ Nutter!!

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Yeah getting strange vibes off this one Palma. Very awkward responses from her.

I’d meet a neutral site. But I’m not an online guy. Maybe they are all like that?

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Ok this is the rejection – you gotta read it to the end.

https://imgur.com/a/PxnnB8W

You boys gotta admit, although I say it myself, I do bring humour. AND it’s FREE!!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

She’s either a brass or nuts.

And it’s not like I’m short of dates to be honest.

It’s hotting up here fast for some reason.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

Ok so here’s how the rejection played out.

https://imgur.com/a/PxnnB8W

You boys gotta admit, I do bring humour – and it’s FREE!!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

Adjusted – fast and sloppy again – story of my life

https://imgur.com/a/fkUlDrt

stuffinbox
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma thanks for the entertaining virtual FR

By her own admission she had “the virus” it caused a stroke (Plausible but could be a sympathy ploy).

She thinks your pics are a scam = gaslighting as hers are a sham.

She is scared to meet in person and an admited excuse maker.

Looks to me like you missed out on some kinky sex with a half paralyzed spaz flopper with a frown smile.

Another cripple gets kicked to the curb and another bullet dodged.

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Absolute torrent… look at those time stamps..

great example of devalidation making her chase you if it’s real. Starting to think it was.

Can always test her on the video chat.

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

@Palma I don’t think that’s a prostitute. She seems insecure and you were just plowing through regardless, so some of her responses in the first exchange are due to your miscalibration. See, you were focused on your membership and meeting women in real life etc. She was trying to make sure you wouldn’t reject her for her stroke-related condition (my guess is there was something in her profile to hint at this, hence your mention of RSI = repetitive strain injury). She was unwell due to the virus (recently), but the stroke had happened before. Read her messages again, this… Read more »

stuffinbox
10 months ago
Reply to  IRL

IRL, consider that the sticking point is actually a well developed survival instinct. Experience teaches us to cut our losses so we develop a set of parameters for interactions for desired results. When people fall outside those parameters then things aren’t going to work out and we cut our losses. Sooner is better than later. I could tell a story of a man without that instinct who wound up feeling sorry for the woman,slept with her (a sympathy fuck) to boost her moral and wound up married to a gal with low self esteem in a chaos controlled hell. After… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@IRL It’s got Russian hooker written all over it. You can tell from her grammar that English isn’t her first language, but she’s passing off as Irish, complete with Irish sounding name and photo with red hair and other non descript stuff on her profile. Her what’s app is a “business” profile showing her business as “finance”, but the what’s app photo has a very different vibe of “glamour” as opposed to “professional” She doesn’t live in Chelsea, no fucking way. That’s like claiming to live in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard to you American boys. You know no one… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Stuffinbox

“IRL, consider that the sticking point is actually a well developed survival instinct.”

Yep.. that’s what it is.

We’re back to the mad gas man and his theory that there’s no such thing as gut feeling, it’s your sub conscious seeing behavioural patterns it recognises.

stuffinbox
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

The mad gas man likes the smell of his own farts.

My gut is telling me not to go bang the little redhead down the road tomorrow while the wife is out of town.
My cock say otherwise.

theasdgamer
10 months ago

We went for months where we didn’t know anyone who got covid. Then we got covid…and my brother’s family hundreds of miles away…and a friend’s family here in town whom we haven’t seen for months…probably 70 more friends have had it.

We were prepared and treated as soon as symptoms occurred and it was no big deal. Symptoms cleared in 24 hours. Then we got hit again and symptoms cleared in 12 hours the second time.

But we weren’t fooled by all the propaganda about covid, so we had an unfair advantage.

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

There’s a story that matches the topic… lol A few years back, a friend agreed to have his Tinder action taken care of. The goal was to tweak his profile, get him on dates… and have a laugh in the process. He wanted to see all text exchanges and pics before agreeing to meet any girl in person, but apart from that nothing was off limit. Oh the lolz… The first girl looked ok-ish… although the cropped shots from above were telling if you know what to look for… No matter, the messages were flowing and she was keen. After… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  IRL

Wow three hours driving AND roast meat and veg….

😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

@stuffinbox IRL, consider that the sticking point is actually a well developed survival instinct. Not thinking about “letting her into his space” (and I wouldn’t either). That happened later. I’m looking at this more meta… more like “bat to the fence” vs. “pulling someone into your world”. @Palma It’s got Russian hooker written all over it. Maybe a cripple or a wheezing fattie? Or she used to have a dick… lol You can tell from her grammar that English isn’t her first language, but she’s passing off as Irish, complete with Irish sounding name and photo with red hair and… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 months ago

@PalmaSailor

Looking over some of your text exchanges, it could be that you are too much for these older girls.

You’re revving up to 7,000 & they can’t take it.

Kinda like this…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@AnonymousReader “You’re revving up to 7,000 & they can’t take it.” Well Ken miles was a boy wasn’t he. So in that second exchange I’d already smelt a rat and decided I wasn’t doing it so I was spinning her up for sport, and she did go like a champ didn’t she.. lol.. @IRL “Or she used to have a dick… lol” Dunno – whadya a think – https://imgur.com/a/Ffz63qT Anyway, I get that in the interests of !SCIENCE! we’re gonna have to conclude this so I’ll pull her back into orbit by claiming all my mates (you lot) had warned… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma It could be – and this didn’t occur to me at the time – that she’s completely legit and was just blown away by my frame and pushback. That’s what I meant by devalidation. Those responses, look at the timestamps. It’s instant stream of consciousness. And she argues like a girl, keeps restating her position and deflecting any responsibility i.e. “the vibe wasn’t off” which means “it’s not my fault” and “it’s got nothing to do with me”. The image link is broke. Good on you for testing further. I can say I’ve a few FR where I thought… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Oh you might try and find some old Julien RSD clips on the power of devalidation to get girls chasing.

Yareally had a few posts on it.

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Hah

An olde twofer… err. Threefer…

https://heartiste.net/the-game-concept-of-devalidation-2/

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Palma The easiest way to describe it is that he devalidates the girl, then changes conversation threads before giving her a chance to qualify herself, and then he stacks that multiple times like Mystery’s multiple threading conversation technique and gets her extremely invested in trying to qualify herself to you and then after a while smoothly allows her to “win him over”, creating HUGE investment on her part which triggers a chain reaction back to her hamster that says “if I’m chasing him this hard he must be high value”. It’s brilliantly devious. [ed: indeed.] Do you see how, I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Sentient

Actually, our resident private investigator @IRL has tracked her down and she’s legit.

Honestly, It was a bombshell, I seriously, and I mean seriously had her down as a fake, and I did go all out to blow it up having decided to push it as far as it could go.. And it didnt blow up – not really.

The link was to her online dating photos so I thought twice and chopped it. I was gonna post some random guys online dating profile for feedback as well.

Anyway watch this space

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Sentient

“Hazards of the professional cynic”

I’ts a high penalty. They arrive, its a great night, they bang, and then they want munny. And if no money then its an allegation…

Its a standard operating procedure.. but hey.. It did have the wrong vibe, and just because she’s legit, doesn’t mean she’s not nuts.

It was still a situation where she was heading out the the boonies to meet a guy from the internet at his place. Most women wouldn’t do it.

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

It was still a situation where she was heading out the the boonies to meet a guy from the internet at his place. Most women wouldn’t do it.

Some smart guy on a blog said something like

“Women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas”

And

“If a girl wants to face you she will find a way to do it”

My best successes have been from a frame b of absolute entitlement and “of course she wants to fuck me”

And my biggest failures from a hedged position…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Sentient / All

Here we go – back into the breach

https://imgur.com/a/C0tDV8v

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

Ok marks out of 10 please boys 😎

https://imgur.com/a/hw1BYcT

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Nice work Palma. 8.5!

The sex might be nuclear here… what a wild one.

Good luck

stuffinbox
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

PALMA , I will give you a solid 9 on the text turnaround frame battle. However all I know about online and text dating is what I’ve gleaned here. Now she is looking to get a weekend commitment?

On the whole find a girl interaction I will give it a 5 in Deuce Bigelow points.

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

I’ll follow Sentient on this from a RP-forum-viewpoint, yet from my place in game it looks like a 9.5.
By the way: Do you all think she completly lost it – like, her Hamster now runs like a 5 year old after 10 bottles of coke?

having a bad day
having a bad day
10 months ago

@PalmaSailor

wow!… 3!!! “silly’s”…lol…

and overall just a bunch of ‘oh! come on, man! start chasing me!!!’ pleading…lol

well done!…

i could smell that arousal through the computer monitor…lol

and just to point out, that was basic textbook texting, with her putting in a LOT more effort/writing than you were doing… with good emotional spikes…

good luck!

LookForValue
LookForValue
10 months ago

Kind of confused about one of the 4 plates i’m spinning. Been fucking this girl for well over a year now. She goes to Miami a week ago, and this past weekend she facetimed me wanting to catch up. On the call she asks how my saturday night was. Tell her it was fun w/ friends out. She asks me if i got with anyone. I tell her it doesn’t matter, and say no. She says she’s suprised such an attractive guy like myself didn’t get with any girls last night. Then, she then tells me how her night was… Read more »

Jоhann Libert
Jоhann Libert
10 months ago
Reply to  LookForValue

./repeat @LookForValue You’re too nice, You don’t have Frame, You don’t have enough Game. Before you talk to any woman around you, you must have a strong Frame, even if it is your loving Mom. Sex is very businesslike, except for the rules are different. She gets what she deserves. A man with Game in your situation would not even talk to that girl except for some Quickies (Quick-Sex). He : (texting) You’re free to come over? She: Yes… […Scheduling Time] He: It’ll be alright then… […goes offline] The more she replies or asks you random things, the weaker your… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@LookingForValue Do us a favour and give us some paragraphs next time some of us are old and need glasses anyway! “Kind of confused about one of the 4 plates i’m spinning. Been fucking this girl for well over a year now. She goes to Miami a week ago, and this past weekend she facetimed me wanting to catch up. On the call she asks how my saturday night was. “ She doesn’t want to know this – she wants an excuse to rub hers in your face. “Tell her it was fun w/ friends out. She asks me if… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

This.^^^

She just wants you jealous and chasing so she can get a commitment.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

Ok it’s on for Friday night plus what might be beta bait about her staying over.

I locked it out – she can get a train still.

Then she says “mans choice” on the wine so she’s a girl that wants to be dominated. Why else is a 30 y/o after a 47 y/o anyway.

Final decision is whether I leave the birthday card as shown below from the nurse on display or put it away 😳

Obviously it’ll spike her.. lol

https://imgur.com/a/qSKmj2K

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Haha. Epic

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

@Palma Hahaha that was hilarious, had a good laugh today. To be honest – the vibe is actually probably wrong now anyway. My favorite moment. A great example of flipping this rolodex back on her, sending the signal for her misbehaving, stacking devalidation, being non-reactive and outcome independent – all in a single shot. Count the OMGs… lol… the hamster was fried. So now we know she’s not a tranny, whizzing fatty, cripple or Russian hooker (although that’s a funny ploy right there for you to exploit at some point lol). The stroke was probably just some minor thing… or… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

Just a bit of a note here. There’s been a paradigm shift because of da’pocalypse and lockdown. I have more dates lined up now via online than I have time to go on. This is like when I first got divorced at 44 which was 9 years ago and pre tinder. The nurse (who works in accident & emergency and sees people all day) said yesterday that: “People are either scared shitless or seriously pissed off, no in between” So the shitlib soyboys are scared shitless and so supply of “men” has tanked. Honestly, I’ve got another much younger one… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@IRL “Props for challenging your default algorithms and experimenting with your ego for !SCIENCE! lol” Well as I’ve said, my gut said there was something wrong. Unless you’ve been on an online date and got there and she’s 10 years older and twice the size you won’t get it. Remember that chick selection thing you were talking about… well that. Her photos are 5 years out of date as is the evidence you found online. So yeah, in the sense she’s not a prostitute, she’s legit. But in terms of everything else, who knows. Now if she gets here and… Read more »

IRL
IRL
10 months ago

@Palma @IRL “Props for challenging your default algorithms and experimenting with your ego for !SCIENCE! lol” Well as I’ve said, my gut said there was something wrong. Yeah there’s still that and I agree. We know online is full of suboptimal SMV girls. What I meant is that the secret to flipping the switch is in trying different things, exposing yourself to opportunities and acting on them to “test the truth of the situation”. So this is an interesting experiment beyond getting a bang. In the process, you’ve come up with and tested a new devalidation stack (the vibe is… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  IRL

A process to be build on compounding of experiences, decisions and actions. The bang is only an add-on.

So much this… playing The Game.

You mean no roast meat and veg?

Wha?! How can you have yer puddin if you don’t eat ya meat!!

[Maybe that will rouse Blax. Talk about engagement]

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago

Lol

Rollo been killing it on twatter

https://mobile.twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1331129327761510400

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 months ago

@Stuffinbox

Snowed in yet?

stuffinbox
10 months ago

AR , we have 10″ fresh powder , my son came over in his rav4 and we went sledding on the skidoos.

The weather guesser forecast 3 to 6 and got paid good to be wrong. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

Stacking the pipeline with target no.2

https://imgur.com/a/HVdcDwv

^^ @Stuffinbox I used to have a RAV4.. very reliable .. but damn for some reason I didn’t like it. Bc of eu regulations of some type they restricted the back door opening to about 70 degrees so the side opening back door didn’t obscure the tail lights. Only car I’ve ever bought brand new but I just couldn’t get on with it and sold it.

stuffinbox
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma , LMFAO , if your kidneys are like mine they would want a refund. Dis she keep talking to you after that line or quit? Yah not a big fan of the rav4 either every one I’ve looked at had a burnt smell to the trans fluid plus no low range and unibody. My main point was you could almost make it all the way here in a rav4 so the snow ain’t too bad. Bad enough though that Mrs. Box asked me to drive her shopping today so I will go out and view some split tail deer… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Stuffinbox

Yeah she came back tonight – but I over cooked it and blew her out. She might come back into the ranch in a bit after her inbox gets blown up by needy chumps.

https://imgur.com/a/pmQBKOX

I blew it just after “what use are you then?”

Like @AR said, I’m over revving it.

But in real life I’d have got away with that. And as I said above, there’s been a real serious change in online lately. It’s really quite bizarre.

stuffinbox
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma , she will likely be back cuz some lumber isn’t run of the mill and we all get tired of digging for the straight ones. Loads of beta chumps. Maybe things work better in real life cus of charisma that doesn’t come through online. I hate using emojis but “still what use are you’ should come with a smile. I might have said not even spaghetti ? All you have to do is get the noodles to stick to the wall, is your wall clean? Like a “smile when you call me that!” The “what do you do”? is… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Stuffinbox “Palma , she will likely be back cuz some lumber isn’t run of the mill and we all get tired of digging for the straight ones. Loads of beta chumps.” There is that, which is what I thought it was, but it’s just occurred to me that I’m listing my height as 6’7”, and it may just be that tall men get a much easier mode than shorter ones online. “Maybe things work better in real life cus of charisma that doesn’t come through online. I hate using emojis but “still what use are you’ should come with a… Read more »

stuffinbox
10 months ago

Palma “I’ve just moved back out of the people’s republic of ghey to somewhere normal.” Maybe manageable, I’ve not seen normal in years. ” I had thought it was my imagination.” I did too till I saw them all parked at the gaslight inn. ‘Dating there for a straight older man was hard mode.” Never been there but it sounds similar to a gaming town , everything is random and spur of the moment. Situational alpha changes in moments (it can even mean out gheying one another) and people flip at a flash in the pan. It is a constant… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

Update on tomorrow night

And game aside – I just don’t want this woman in my space.

Yeah – I know faux bailing was a shit test. But I’m bored with her now.

https://imgur.com/a/s7ZKAKA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=fmOgIHy3axQ

stuffinbox
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma , good move she is BPD or worse and an obvious nutter.

I could see trying to get rid of her

” I am leaving now.”

” Okay , I’ll walk you to the door”

“Are you kicking me out?”

On the YT film There is a link to FTL films, basically that film was a screen test also on the FB page there is another photo of her that makes her look like a psycho. So good onya.

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

IDK Palma She seems like a hot lay. Sure she’s a bit cray cray but that’s part for the course. I’d let this weekend go, then hit her up like nothing ever happened. She will go nuclear with the shit testing. You just hold your ground, even tempered, and keep repeating time and place until she caves. I bet she will. And THAT is what they are looking for. A firm hand, some guy who simply WILL NOT bend to their manipulation. And when she bends, it will be all the way. The nurse times 5… !Science! Demands it. You… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Man this stuff is getting really hard to find.

Mystery overcoming a sparky bitch

https://gotpickup.com/mystery-uses-a-routine-stack-and-deals-with-shit-tests/

The key is the timing of when he says “hey, do you want to get real here” words to that effect. That is the key, when to shift and pull the rug out from under her and call out her BS. He does it in a nice way even.

The goal of all this is making them want you. YOU can then choose not to, but that is after they show you they do. Those steps are progress.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Dunno.. Genuinely bored with it to be honest… plus gut / @Stuffinbox was right – she is crazy and whatever happened to “never stick your dick in crazy”? Plus I’m not gonna enjoy the sex – bc.. crazy.. I’d have to wear a condom and I never do bc I hate them.. plus all the way through I’m gonna be thinking “am I gonna be able to get this nutter out of my place” I mean she is genuinely nuts. Way beyond normal. She’s contradicting herself line by line. She’ll just cry rape and then it’s a shit show. And… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
10 months ago

UK coppers bust Elvis impersonator while he parties… alone. Yep, all by himself.
Now we see what PalmaSailor is having to deal with.

https://summit.news/2020/11/26/video-elvis-impersonators-house-crashed-by-cops/

kfg
kfg
10 months ago

” . . . under UK law police are not allowed to enter homes without a warrant unless they suspect there is a gathering at which a person infected with COVID is spreading the virus.”

Well there’s a loophole I could drive a SWAT team through.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago
Reply to  kfg

@KFG

They can’t get into your house within a warrant.

They’ll try to manipulate but if you just say “ok, but I don’t consent” and you don’t get shitty, they’ll back off. They can’t come in and that’s that. And it’s all on video.

Especially where I live. They don’t dare. You could be anyone, or know anyone.

But Elvis impersonators? Well, that’s just Karma.. lol.

IAS
IAS
10 months ago

Minor update:

N=4 is back in Europe (we kept in touch over the distance) and she really wanted to come over for New Year, so she will stay at my place for one week 😀

The new girl I kissed but didn’t bang (in the previous FR, she was “TC”) was almost coming over to my city to stay at my place for the weekend but she got cold feet due to COVID restrictions. I think she might come over mid-December, otherwise I’ll see her close to Christmas at my parents’ city.

I could pass through N=2 when I go to my parents’ city, not sure there will be an opening.

I’m not actively trying to get N=5 again. We only banged twice back before the first lockdown and since that she came over twice to my house. The first of those after 1st lockdown visits, I eventually went in for the kiss and she moved away, the next time she came and cooked for me and I didn’t even try to kiss. She is going away for Christmas and I think I should meet up with her once before and give her another chance, it would be good practice either way.

Meanwhile, N=3 is going along mostly smoothly and the sex is even better since I came back from my recent trip abroad.
There was recently another situation with Mr. T that got to me though. I’m actually leaning towards them never having fucked, and if they did doesn’t change things that much as I probably never will know, but some of her actions annoy me regardless. I mentioned it to Palma and he suggested I post it for analysis.

The context is what matters here (to me at least) so I have to get into some detail. A month ago for Halloween I set her up for some cosplay (me also dressing up). So I told her (with two weeks advance) to get some specific color of clothes and to put on specific make-up, which included red lipstick. She doesn’t wear much make-up and as it turns out she was out of red lipstick, so I tell her to buy some. Then we talked about it again one week before Halloween and I tell her basically I’m taking care of the rest, the clothes and make-up are her responsibility. On the day – she didn’t get the red lipstick and used a similar color instead. It was annoying and disappointing but not a big deal.

Fast forward to end of November, on a day that I know she is close to ovulation and also going to meet up with Mr. T on the afternoon, and before lunch time she sends me a picture of a red lipstick on her lap (I also noticed she is wearing some of her sexiest trousers) that she just bought. I also note she didn’t send a picture of her face with the lipstick on, but I know she tried it on (I asked about the texture), and it is pretty certain she was wearing it when she met up with Mr. T.

I’d like to know what you think of this.

Click here for my opinion, if the spoiler tags work
From my point of view and knowing her a bit, although I don’t think it was done with conscious, malicious intent, it was quite shitty – either very inconsiderate or even disrespectful.
Maybe I should have ignored it, but for disclosure here I basically told her right away when she sent the picture “you got it several weeks late”. Later when I met her in person on the next day (after banging her) I told her I was annoyed about the red lipstick. I’m not sure if she realizes consciously that part of that is not just the thing with Halloween but also the context of Mr. T.

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  IAS

Medium is the message right?

The time to make an issue, i.e. enforce a boundary was on Halloween.

“Uou look great. Except for the lipstick. Where is the red, this won’t do.”

On Mr T. – she has it for him. That’s what this whole hypergamy thing is about.

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
10 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient
So – I don’t get that. When it is true, that that she never banged Mr. T – why would she even care about him so much to get the lipstick for him? Or is it just another shit test, where she wants to make IAS jealous? Thus, she would not care about Mr.T but instead about provoking a reaction from IAS, wouldn’t she?

Anyway, pretty interesting to hear. You guys seem to be know each other pretty well.

IAS
IAS
9 months ago
Reply to  IAS

@Sentient and Palma (and everyone): Of full disclosure it is then. Indeed, the day after N=3 bought the lipstick (and before I told her the red lipstick thing annoyed me – she was surprised), I made her cum with very little “sexual” stimulation. I told her I wanted a massage on my legs. She massaged me, then I got her to blow me a little bit, then I put some music, lay in bed, she came to kiss me, I grabbed her throat with the right hand, cupped her cheek with the left hand, and kissed her intensely until her… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
10 months ago

@Sentient / NoNameNumber1 I’ve written a long reply to this but got ambitious with new formatting and lost the lot. I’ll rewrite tonight, In the meantime I don’t think she had the red lipstick for MrT. It was to shit test @IAS Good luck with getting a woman to wear something specific by asking her directly. I don’t think you should ever do that. Apart from anything else it implies you’re needy / you care, and my first instinct on this is that it gives her hand. Why would you give a fuck. If you don’t like the way a… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
10 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

“I don’t think she had the red lipstick for MrT. It was to shit test @IAS”

Ah my bruhs. Hypergamy is win win. It’s a twofer. Both are the correct answer.

Shit test (further btw) IAS and maximize attractiveness for Mr T.

She wins…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

He didn’t give you the full story – and he shouldn’t have been so coy – wait for the breaking news !

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma I got the news. Here is the issue. Alpha not 100% correlated with great sex. It’s close but not even. Take away – you can get her to cum on command, but you can’t get her to put on the lipstick you like, she is not a submissive. But she is enjoying the sexy games. Of which SHE is a willing participant. Kind of analogous to topping from the bottom. Weren’t you saying uptrend women these days acting more like guys used to? The best sex she ever had can be with an alpha. It could also have been… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

I don’t think it’s alpha to “make” or get her to do anything. Or to “get her to wear the lipstick you like” You should’t even have to do that. She should just be doing it, she should be seeking out what he wants. So ok I’ll have to think about your sex comments but if he’s doing her that well, then she should be just doing everything he wants. And grateful for it. My mindset was her hamster had spotted the weakness and was pinging for it. If he just DGAF and totally owned her / tied her to… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
9 months ago

Did someone swipe the wrong way? Get negged too hard, wound up frustrated? Run out of Xanax? Has a really serious grudge against Aldi?

https://nypost.com/2020/11/26/woman-smashes-500-bottles-of-booze-in-british-supermarket/

Treating for the injuries is ok, but…

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago

Funny little interlude Getting some food to go for the fam. Stop into a bar to wait. 50s guy and woman one stool over. She’s closer to me. Women gives me a look. I order. Chat up the staff, all guys but I know them and they are coming over to say hey. Its not crowded just 6pm. Anyhow it’s clear they are on a date or more likely an outing. She’s got a killer bod. 5’4″ is, 110. Really nice pert rack. hmm. Average, not old looking at all. So I’m like hmmm. She giving some sideways glances so… Read more »

IRL
IRL
9 months ago

@IAS @Sentient Shit test (further btw) IAS and maximize attractiveness for Mr T. ^^^^^This. Win win. Could even use the same material to beta bait any number of orbiters in social circle/on social media… lol… No big deal @IAS. It’s just her throwing it out there to see what happens… oblivious or not as to why. Not that you’re in a committed relationship or anything. Comes with the FB territory. Women are great ultra-sensitive feedback machines and will probe any curious spots in your frame or vibe. Use this to your advantage to improve your sticking points. @Palma So ok… Read more »

Silent Bob
Silent Bob
9 months ago

@Palma “But how do I leverage that to get my son back?” First, what HABD said: “i’ve had several buddies that have gone through the same situs… most of them end up with a good relationship with their kids… it seems to work out that the more the man reacts (confirming mom’s opinion) the less good the relationship ends up being… but mostly they ended up on good terms with their kids… in other words, making some mistakes isn’t fatal to ending up with a great relationship… however, one did not… he reacted to everything mom did ‘tit for tat’…… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago
Reply to  Silent Bob

Silent Bob “But so, I think maybe her whole story could be flipped over. Simply by passing to your son the info that your ex doesnt’t actually hate you, but deeper down still loves you.” Having been in the sons position while I was growing up , this^ is already the narrative. The truth is it takes two to tango and she checked out first. She claims that he checked out and she still loves him even though his character is defective.. The way to counter the narrative is tell the truth ” I still love your mom, things got… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago

The thing to do is show and tell the son his father loves him , keep the door open , provide discipline and freedom so there is always space to run free around dad.

Never mention the mother and don’t blame the son.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@IRL / Sentient / StuffinBox / All “What should we do with you, what should we do…” So Fridays non date has hit me up today to tell me what I shit i am. First two pages carried on from my last post and the last one is today https://imgur.com/a/nJlDe4c I know you boys think I should have spun it, instead of sitting on my own Friday night (which I actually really enjoyed) but the world is divided into 2 types of men. Those that have got ensnared with a BPD woman and those that haven’t. Hands up who has… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

IDK Palma. Looks like you played her like a ukulele and she’s purring like a kitten now. 😸 🐱 😽 😿 😸

^ 5 phases 😆

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Sentient “Never mention the mother and don’t blame the son.” +1 Take it a step further. It is a good bet he is catching plenty of blame where he is. because a stepdad can’t love a stepson as a father can , the boy will always be caught in the middle of an( imagined by the stepdad) oedipus complex. Factor that in with another mans offspring getting his resources and try as he may to overcome these instincts they are there below the surface. He (the son ) is being molded and shaped into some thing unnatural and the only… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@SilentBob / Stuffinbox / Sentient Thanks very much for taking the time on this. You must have read the book sometime age because I de listed it when things improved temporarily with him. Actually I never had my ex wife down as a cluster B. However although I do say it myself I think she’s my Alpha Widow. You’ve only gotta see the new guy. When I left after the dust settled she said to me “I know you’re not going to but you can come back”. Then we got on quite well and I got access which was good… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@Senteint “One beer, 20 minutes. Thought after shut i should have gotten her number.” Sometimes you just don’t think to close it and after you think “shit that was just on a plate – what is wrong with me” Was on a train a few years ago and there was a hot single mother with her daughter (about 3). And I mean this woman was banging. Early 30’s skin tight clothes.. everything. So the train carriage was full and she had far too much luggage – suitcase, buggy, child, etc.etc.. So she’s struggling to get it all together and I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@StuffInBox “He (the son ) is being molded and shaped into some thing unnatural and the only counter measure that works is to accept him for who he is and set an example of what he could become. He can learn self discipline by example from the father.” Ok set an example of what he could become So.. yes.. the message has been given to my son (by his stepfather – his mother doesn’t think like this) that “All he needs to do is get by” Ie he doesn’t have to really go for it – all he has to… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Palma “But as an example of what he could become / what he could achieve?” The sky is the limit. Divorce is a bitch , my dad didn’t take to it well. he went off the deep end for a short time and had some trouble keeping up with the judges orders, she landed him in jail and then figured out he cant pay while locked up either. These judgements pushed him into self employment where he could make more with more effort, an american freedom. Soon enough he owned a large business with 5 men duplicating his effort full… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@Stuffinbox I’d wait a week, and then phone to arrange delivery for the following week perhaps.. We had a discussion about the state of men, and I have to say it’s a very clear line. I recruited 2 last week for not quite construction, but nevertheless manual building type work. And I had a brilliant time. Recruited 2x 25 year olds on the spot. And put a 3rd one on hold til January. I was blown away with the quality of what walked in for that type of work as opposed to what I have been used to recruiting for.… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Palma , the porsche looks sweet and a fun spin, doesn’t fit my style and wouldn’t last on these roads.
My son likes this truck.

Yep there is still hope all the feminazi bs aside when reality hits a lad construction is a viable option. There are no sensitivity training classes involved. The breaking involves moving as much material as is inhumanly possible.LOL. And beer thirty comes around every day.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

That’s a great truck but the fuel bill on that here would be more than the payments on the Porsche and it’s fuel put together ! Lol But your son needs it – definitely, and if that’s what he wants I hope he has some targets he can hit, things he can achieve to get that truck. Bc that’s what it’s all about. To get the engine thing in perspective we’ve just bought a van bigger that that truck with what we call a tail lift and it’s got a 2.1litre Diesel engine.. And you got a 5.7 petrol 😂😂😂😂… Read more »

Silent Bob
Silent Bob
9 months ago

@Palma Ok, my shitty memory and jumping into conclusions and deep into thoughts after a puff of old MJ haha @Stuffinbox Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. I guess that’s the way it works in normal, sane cases and the demonizing just happens with extreme cluster B. Maybe I should introduce myself now that this is already a second time that I’m chiming in on a conversation here. 43, no kids. Stumbled upon llimitable men, Girls *Chase and then eventually TRM in 2015 after I went googling “how to xxx (can’t remember what it was exactly) on Tinder” after a bad… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Silent Bob

“Hmm, yeah, that makes sense. I guess that’s the way it works in normal, sane cases and the demonizing just happens with extreme cluster B.”

There are no sane – normal cases. The demonizing goes on in all cases , but she (still loves him inspite of how evil he is ) is more of a saintly woman. This is even worse as it compounds the demonic view of the ex husband. How could he treat a saint this way? LOL

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@Stuffinbox Beer thirty? What’s that? You get a beer everyday after work? Lots of builders do that here too. We call that Beer O’Clock. @Silentbob It probably took me 5 years to even start to swallow TRP. I’m probably 8 years in now and it’s taken that long to fully understand what’s happening. “Started a business this summer to employ myself as a freelancer, that’s what’s up next. Now life is starting to truly feel like worth living.” Well it’s a good start, and well done, but you haven’t stated a business unless the thing happens without you / despite… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Palma, beer 30 is 30min past beer o clock. That means real thirsty. and yes on residential jobs the boss is buying a round on commercial jobs its tough luck and the workers buy each other a round. There is really no comparison between a classic 4wheeler and a porsche . at 6k for the truck used vs 125k used for the porsche and 9mpg vs 20mpg, never mind taxes and tags the truck holds value and the porsche loses it. at 10k mi. per year the porsche loses 15k in value while at 20mpg it gains back 1.2k in… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

It’s not class, I’m working class, as are all my friends here. Regardless of wealth. It’s about whether you made it yourself or not.

And I was a bit tongue in cheek.

But £5.40 per gallon (which is what $7) over here and compare that with over there and drop the price of the Porsche to under £100k and increase its MPG to about 28.

Leave a residual on it (which it would have) and it’s not as bad as it looks.

More importantly, has your son got a plan to get his truck?

That’s the important bit.

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Palma , I know it’s late there and I’ve got work tomorrow . “More importantly, has your son got a plan to get his truck?” Hell thats my toy, he just likes to borrow it. These kids today may be even more impressed if you bought an electric car or put a hydrogen booster on something. Just saying There.is the hitch , he has a truck and an suv a dirt bike and his own home. None of it is a porsche or cowboy cadillac. Everything he has is utility , he is still working on his college at 38yo… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@Stuffinbox Actually it’s early! You just want to line her up when she’s ovulating really. None of it is a porsche or cowboy cadillac. Well he A) doesn’t want one, B) he can’t work out the plan to get to one, C) doesn’t believe he can do it or D) he doesn’t want to put the work in. Most men deep down it’s somewhere between C & D, and B as a result of those first 2. There was a poaster here that I met in real life who had a good self employment. I looked at it, and it… Read more »

IRL
IRL
9 months ago

Good stuff @Palma. You reminded me of Duncan Bannatyne: BTW his second wife is 30 years his junior (he’s 70 or so, married her only a few years ago): One thing you don’t mention – but do – is casually engaging in multiple little things around you. You increase your chances of success by not only developing new skills but also creating (and training your eye to spot) windows of opportunities. All while going about your day, ignoring dead ends/failures and going all in if you see any signs of market IOIs. Similar to a natural working a room. Applying… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Palma , a load to unpack here^ Yep , ovulation was my goal post initially and was pressing it to tight into the HOT zone + giving her too much time to fill her bill. self employment isn’t for every man , he has to be driven to the point of marriage to the business and willing to do what it takes to compete. I started my first big one at 21 , Pops told me I had a lot of balls going into that field , I took it as a compliment. The competition was fierce and powerful with… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
9 months ago

@Sentient

Never mention the mother and don’t blame the son.

10 years of RP post-divorce wisdom distilled into one sentence… outstanding!…lol

good luck!

Some hopeless incel
Some hopeless incel
9 months ago

I am new to Rollo’s work . I would henceforth question the author Mr. Rollo and the commentariat on their opinions about the r/exredpill subreddit and especially this thread about the fallacies in the Red Pill “Praxeology” https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/ho4cvx/red_pill_detox_first_aid_kit_start_here/ Notice that the author has included scientific articles possibly debunking the human alpha male , work done by Dr. Nerdlove , Mark Manson’s criticisms of the alpha male and more. I also would like to know the view of the commentariat on criticisms of the red pill for establishing monolithical and quite rigid stereotypes about men and women, and on the biological… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago

Well since I really didn’t see a question, I’ll pose one – Hopeless Incel, what is Alpha?

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
9 months ago

What is your goal, Hopeless Incel? Would you rather endlessly debate ever smaller details of someone else’s debate, or would you rather improve your life?

SOME HOPELESS INCEL
SOME HOPELESS INCEL
9 months ago

come on guys atleast answer mark manson’s criticisms of the alpha male, ffs. Well for me, I have some serious physical and hormonal abnormalities(having low T, manboobs, low self esteem, afflicted with cystic acne all over my face and upper body, have a very small erect penis; might be a micropenis diagnosis, my Mom wears the pants in the relationship; fucked me up psychologically, etc) So I am in my mid-teens right now and still live in my parents’ home , yeah I am lost in my journey through life. Advice required, thanks. PSA: This is not a troll post;… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
9 months ago

come on guys atleast answer mark manson’s criticisms of the alpha male, ffs

This site has a search tool. Here is an example of a search. Try reading Rollo’s essays.

https://therationalmale.com/?s=mark+manson

kfg
kfg
9 months ago

Manson sets up a straw man of TRP and alpha male so that he can knock it over and claim victory.

TRP is simply reality. You can’t debunk it, only correct and refine your perception of it, much as Einstein expanded Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation. He didn’t overthrow it. He simply revealed it as a limited case.

What Manson essentially does is construct a parody of Newton’s Law, points to a popular press misconception of Einstein’s Law and declares gravity bunk.

having a bad day
having a bad day
9 months ago

@Some hopeless incel

Mark has a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of alpha and beta within the context of intersexual dynamics. He blends several concepts and contexts in his blue pill infused analysis…

@AR is correct… IF you want to better your life, read this site… start up top with the best of series

https://therationalmale.com/the-best-of-rational-male-year-one/

just take it on faith that it’s all true… bc it is…lol… stop back in with specific questions after you are done with the first year series…

ps. change your name to something else… if you are here, you are not hopeless…

good luck!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

Lay report 25 y/o Russian doctor Well.. I’m now officially ruined.. So I met this girl chatting on a lockdown sceptics blog. It had a dating section for sceptics ago I went for it and she replied. Chatting for about a month or so as couldn’t catch up for one reason or another. Last night agreed to meet at our local green space with beer and wine. She arrived at the right time, she doesn’t live far. Small talk but it’s cold and wet so I suggest walking back to mine and I’ll cook / we’ll get movie. We walk… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
9 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

So I met this girl chatting on a lockdown sceptics blog. It had a dating section for sceptics

Prefiltering at the very least, with possible preselection on the side.
Perfect.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

^ by the way I had the DHV / IOD loop running in my head whilst in the sofa

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
9 months ago

@Not-hopelessIncel See, I’m 19 years old. While I was about 13 to 15 I was the lowest one in the class’ hierarchy – to cite J. Peterson here: “It’s no good place to be”. Thought about half a year about killing myself, but am thankfull I never did. I still have Acne, somehow pretty bad. Thought nothing might help it, until I went to a doctor and got “Inderm” (some antibiotics, really helped). I also thought nothing can help me, penis too small, belly too fat, you name it, probably pretty similar to your position. In the end I changed:… Read more »

IRL
IRL
9 months ago

@NNN1

Thanks for chiming in and sharing your progress, good effort. Take notes @Hopeless.
Any sports NNN1?

@Palma

No drama? Ahhh shit… lol

Lay report 25 y/o Russian doctor

He’s back. Nice!
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^ by the way I had the DHV / IOD loop running in my head whilst in the sofa

“The game is won in comfort” ~Mystery

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago
Reply to  IRL

Palma

Done by the book. Nice

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XwUlTbU1ONw

“I’m ruined”

That’s her line 😆 🤣

NoNameNumber1
NoNameNumber1
9 months ago

@IRL Well, seems like Ihave to thank the community as well. Yes, I did horseback riding for the last eight years. Did some running as well (for an annual youth “marathon” over a few kilometers), where the last years I did pretty well. It was like a competition of schools, where every school wanted to show up with as many runners as possible and also land the wins in each age group. DHVd a lot. Now, as life changed, I have not started horseback riding yet again. I cycle enough to stay in fitness training and do some small workouts… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Palma , nice going on the wine doctor. Do you think you can keep some on tap for later with some more DHV/ IOD?

Hopeless Incel , you def need to change your handle don’t make me do it for you lol. Who is Mark Manson? Seriously! ,

Some hopeless incel
Some hopeless incel
9 months ago

First of all thanks for the replies. It is heartwarming for me to know that there are members close to my age(17) in the community . Secondly thanks for the book recommendations . I will check them out immediately. It does not help me additionally that I’m socially retarded and barely know how to maintain conversations at all (being a Mama’s boy has its own disadvantages) BTW, as for Peterson, do I simply read and take notes from his books, watch his video lectures, or do a mix of both? Which book of his to start with ? Suggestions welcome.… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
9 months ago

@ SHIncel
Just read 12 Rules for life.
Then you’ll understand a lot of what is going on around you.
Starting conversations is pure practice. Maybe start talking more with adults, this often seemed easier for me.

Lastly, change your name – At least cut out the “hopeless”

Some Pessimistic Incel
Some Pessimistic Incel
9 months ago
Reply to  NNN1

Thanks man. Good luck
I’ll come back here after a week for the updates.
Hopeless–> Pessimistic Incel

NNN1
NNN1
9 months ago

See, thats a little, but a good first step.
So what do you plan to do?

Also: Do you only live with your Mom or both parents?

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@Some Pessimistic Incel Ok well that’s progress on the handle but you could do better than that. So having watched sons of anarchy I’m gonna name you @TheProspect and that’s how I’m gonna reply to you from now on. So you’re a 17 year old man, and that was a long time ago for me but there are things to consider about life that apply at all ages. There are things in life you have control over like man boobs, because you can lose weight, work out and build muscle. Others will put me right but I think lifting will… Read more »

Some Pessimistic Incel
Some Pessimistic Incel
9 months ago

Sorry for the late reply, @NNN1, live with both parents right now, have a plan to escape from home by May 2022, when I will be all set for my undergraduate studies. @All others, I am a self-described covert narcissist, and another crazy thing about my parents is that my Mom acts much like the Red Pilled man Rollo describes in his blog, handling all the decisions in the house but yet teases and criticizes Pops regularly; this dynamic has made me and my father both terribly dependent on Mom. Even to the point where my Father has to take… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago

@TheProspect

“Advice hence forth required”

What you have described may have been the exception , it is now not so uncommon. Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger.

Do your calisthenics religeously , and push your fears daily.

Stefan
Stefan
9 months ago

@Some Pessimistic Incel How do you know you have low T, have you done a blood test or are you just guessing? Do a proper blood test first. In terms of food, try low carb diet, high protein, high (healthy) fat. Start taking creatine and try to eat good amount of protein at least 2g of protein per kg of lean body mass or even full bodyweight (depending how fat you are, 300 lbs guy doesn’t need 300g of protein). For weights, don’t do BB splits, you are not a bodybuilder with 5-8 years of lifting experience, doing curls won’t… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
9 months ago

Thanks @Stefan BTW: I sometimes feel like I do better, when I eat more meat and less carb (like noodles etc) – what do you think about that? @The Prospect To be honest, it would help dramatically and improve the relevance of the advice we can give you, when you put out more serious (!) information about how you are in shape. What do you wear, what kind of school do you attend, also how high are you (roundabout) and how much do you weight. To break the ice here: I’m 178cm (5ft 10), with about 70 kg (154 lbs).… Read more »

Pessimistic Incel
Pessimistic Incel
9 months ago

Okay so here is the thing.
Height: 170cm, Weight: 74 kg, BMI:-25.6 (Slightly overweight)
Currently on a high-carb, low protein diet and Mom is in control over it, so can’t change things here (Moderate fruit intake on a daiiy basis however).
Would like advice on workouts (exercise) from home as nearest gym about 5 km from home(City outskirts).
BTW I’m South Asian for further clarity.

stuffinbox
9 months ago

@The Prospect “Currently on a high-carb, low protein diet and Mom is in control over it, so can’t change things here” Your mom is doing the best she can with what she has to work with. You could always ask nicely. It might work. “Thanks to Rollo and other writers in the Manosphere, I diagnosed these abnormalities successfully.” Come on dude! I’ve never seen a psycho self analysis guide on this sight or any other. How do you know your diagnosis is successfull? Was it confirmed by a professional, or does it just feel hypocondriacly correct to you? Now that… Read more »

Pessimistic Incel
Pessimistic Incel
9 months ago
Reply to  stuffinbox

Thanks man. Appreciate your help.

Pessimistic Incel
Pessimistic Incel
9 months ago

BTW about the question of the alpha male,
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2n6npa/how_you_know_youre_alpha/
From Illimitable Man

having a bad day
having a bad day
9 months ago

@stuffinbox @TheProspect great video workouts!… NO money or equipment needed = no excuses!… i reviewed those three workouts and they are solid beginner/intermediate routines… the pushing/pulling are balanced, with lower body/legs and core/abs… and with three routines, there is enough variety… just gotta put in the effort now!… and follow the complete routines… even if some exercises are more difficult… THAT just means you need work in those areas… @The Prospect “Currently on a high-carb, low protein diet and Mom is in control over it, so can’t change things here” Your mom is doing the best she can with what… Read more »

kfg
kfg
9 months ago

” . . . start adding beans/legumes to some meals…”

Lentils. The king of legumes. Highest in protein, lowest in toxins. Not exactly a stranger to south Asia. Don’t spare the ghee.

having a bad day
having a bad day
9 months ago

@TheProspect

one more thing…

WHY have you not changed your handle?…

good luck!

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago

The prospect

Olde Skuyle
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“They said I could be anything I wanted. So I became Zyzz.” – Zyzz

“What one man can do, another can do.” – Mystery

[We will get to that]

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Inb4

Muscles /= Alpha

Looks /= Alpha

PUA /= Alpha

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@TheProspect

Height: 170cm, Weight: 74 kg, BMI:-25.6 (Slightly overweight)

Well.. you’re taller than me. I don’t know how much by because IDGAF enough to measure myself. Since I was at school I thought I was 5’8” and I only realised I was shorter than that because a plate I’ve got is that tall and she’s taller than me so she called it out. And I shrugged.

IRL
IRL
9 months ago

Well put Archie: The “textbook” pickups are actually rare, because girls are chaos agents, and look forward to making you trip up. It’s fun for them. They might not want to see you fail, but they just enjoy making a mess of everything. It’s a feature not a bug. There’s the rub though. In trying to slow a guy down, they get caught up in that behavioral loop. Just them trying to stop a guy, is a guy hijacking their world. The guy knows it’s coming and he has something to draw the group deeper into the web. Her trying… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago
Reply to  IRL

That is a good thread. Funny seeing it over and over, guys coming back to old skool Mystery… Also having routines and material already prepared in my head I find does really make it easier to concentrate on the other stuff which plays a far more important role like eye-contact, facial expressions, body language and delivery (tonality) etc. At least in my limited experience that is what I am noticing. When I was being natural, most of my energy was caught up in coming up with things to say that I just did not have enough mental energy left to… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
9 months ago

Field report from this week: As everything is in lockdown, the most social happening at university is some microscopy exercise. The subject I study is scientific and demands a lot of work, yet there still are more women than men. For the exercises I sit next to a girl, ‘G’, italian heritage, smaller than me, but quite fit. She wanted to study sport science at first and looks accordingly. On Monday and Tuesday I already texted her a bit, some blabla with too much comfort without a load of attraction (I appreciate advice on textgame : )). So it’s Wednesday.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago
Reply to  NNN1

Should have gone for the next step – taking her to my place and bouncing around. Need to backward plan the logistics from the sex location, then uou can lead her through them. Also when uou are walking around and around and around, take her hand. It’s an easy way to escalate the kino. Do the hands test, if she isn’t gripping back drop her hand but keep on talking etc. A little IOD. If you had held her hand a while hugging her at the hard break would be smooth and natural. At some point BOTH of your bodies… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago
Reply to  NNN1

NNN1 DECEMBER 4, 2020 AT 3:14 AM “”Field report from this week: As everything is in lockdown, the most social happening at university is some microscopy exercise. The subject I study is scientific and demands a lot of work, yet there still are more women than men.” Trendy “For the exercises I sit next to a girl, ‘G’, italian heritage, smaller than me, but quite fit. She wanted to study sport science at first and looks accordingly. On Monday and Tuesday I already texted her a bit, some blabla with too much comfort without a load of attraction (I appreciate… Read more »

Yann
Yann
9 months ago

Hello Mister Tomassi, I apologize in advance for my English I’ve came across your masterpiece “Rational Male” volume one after reading “No more Mr Nice Guy” from Robert A. Glover, your two other volumes are on my wishlist Seeking for self improvement and a kind of “how to….seduce the chicks to get laid” I’m 29 years of age and have no experience at all at picking girls up and the major thing that I lack is “what to talk about” I’m a complete newbie, which doesn’t mean I never met girls in my life nor that I’m a virgin Your… Read more »

stuffinbox
9 months ago
Reply to  Yann

@NNN1 Back in mid november I hit the big 60, I’ve been running and gunning for that long and my feet are tired so I’ll take a minute to rest and write. You are a Kool Cabasca mainly cuz you are helping the Prospect. Now about this contact shyness , lets get some things straight. Say girls develop a couple years younger than boys so girls are interested in kissing while boys are playing games and riding wheelies. The girls want attention and are trying to figure out how to get kissed. They don’t initiate this as that is not… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

@StuffInBox – but really directed at @NNN1 This is where @ Sentients logistic advice comes into play but I’ll tell you now it really doesn’t matter she will do it anywhere, trust me. Back in the day my N number 4-5 was at a house party out somewhere next to a field. I was probably 18-19. So I got hold of this girl, and she was the sister of a guy that was having the party and he was protective and so she couldn’t make out / get with anyone because brother would lose his shit and this pissed her… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Lol. Golf courses were regular, beaches, parking lots of course etc.

it really doesn’t matter she will do it anywhere, trust me.

She will for sure. The issue is he wont…

So backward plan NnN and then lead the interaction accordingly, moving towards the sex location.

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Palma , LOL , pale gray trowsers look honest till they don’t.

Sentient @ NNN1 , No disrespect , if you are uncomfortable you should really have a logistics plan.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
9 months ago

Field Report So the nurse came up Wednesday afternoon and stayed over until Thursday night which meant I had to blow out the 25 y/o Russian Doctor who wanted to come over Thursday. Instead I put her back to tonight. So the nurse has started to buy shit for my place and I’ve told her not to – I don’t want anything in my place, and I’m gonna throw out anything she buys. She’s giving out literally pornstar sex and She thinks I’m joking about throwing out the shit she’s leaving here but it’s gone already in the rubbish. So… Read more »

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