For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
J
“How you say “hey” matters more than opening chicks with half-assed “hey””
erm… Duh?
The point is if you can’t say anything “hey” works. “Hey” opens. “Hey” gives you the chance to do SOMETHING else after the open. Don’t be so concerned with any “screening” on her part. If you actually have some game seeding her some benign expected response allows your next move to bring the hammer. Rope a dope.
Recall the setup on the “owe me money” upthread.
Saying nothing is ZERO percent.
Smh.
@Sentient
“Don’t be so concerned with any “screening” on her part.”
yes because turning around instant NO girls is very easy lol. I’m talking about the higher percentage move for average looking guys. I, for example, take an additional 5 seconds to notice something about the girl I want to open (what she’s wearing/what she’s doing/thinking about doing) to give me time to come up with a emotionally stimulating opener…then I’ll approach her…instead of following Mystery’s 3-second rule…
Context. It’s a thing.
When in doubt… “hey” and open.
Did non-sexual game last night…we needed a last minute motel room and trivago booked us for the next day, which made our confirm questionable. I just maintained frame with the female black clerk (a tough old broad) who was anxious to keep us happy. We invested some convo with her after she was hooked on booking us (but no ass-kissing or guilty white black-pedestalizing anti-game) and she was very pleasant and helpful. Later on, the clerk helped us get some vinegar for Mrs. Gamer’s fish. Pretty cool how game works in so many circumstances. I was in a gift shop… Read more »
@Culum The 400 is done. Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Not many push their boundaries and take action, so it’s always inspiring to see someone doing it. Keep at it man and keep us posted. @Jonas Pay attention. This is how you find cracks in your impossible to overcome mindset and let the light shine through: you act and put yourself to a test. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: your habits are shit. Your mind just follows what your body does. Fix it, little things put big ones in motion. I don’t start with the mind. The… Read more »
@IAS
@j: a hot girl, 7 months without dick?
WTF… Probably not true.
Define ‘true’… lol… Dog logic concept, no?
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/sex-and-love/a19898291/what-counts-as-sex/
Is sex with a beta really sex? Etc. etc.
Besides, don’t forget about this (lol at Palmasailor’s tweet):
https://twitter.com/Palmasailor1/status/1009822583515205633
All Secret Society stuff…
Thanks guys – HABD, Sentient, IRL . It’s kind of a cliche but really without HABD’s first suggestion (last year!) and then a push from you guys I never would have pushed my comfort zone and done this. I’ve taken a couple of days “off” and had dinner with friends one night and hung out with my FB another night (not completely off – I did a couple of approaches to keep the skills fresh! Good reactions too). On a tangent with my FB – she’s a nice 40 year old HB6 (similar to last year’s FB but not quite… Read more »
@j – have you been looking at RSD Luke’s “Social Circle Blueprint” (and similar products) for high-end clubs, building social circles in high-end nightlife and social proof etc so you no longer have to rely on pure cold approach etc? I won’t link anything because I think Rollo still has a ban on RSD video links but RSD Luke has an update out to his social circle game product and there are a bunch of new promotional videos and content on Youtube. It sounds like it would be ideal for you – high end nightlife, hotter girls etc. I have… Read more »
Culum “my entitlement levels seem to have gone up – like I want a 7 or something (why not the girl I stopped at the traffic light)?” Let it go… Higher and higher. If not you, who? If not now, when? I mean why deprive her of your dick? Seriously, raw attraction is a powerful motivator. Tap into that and you won’t be able to talk yourself out of opening or trying to close. Your body will compel you to try. How natural is that? On this point, a powerful frame I found from Bobby Judge… “Testing the truth of… Read more »
RSD Luke, Social Circle, and High-end Venues I don’t watch any content from Luke. I previously linked a video, by former RSD assistant, Denton Fisher (youtube channel: Karisma King) that said Luke has shit game. In another video, titled “why I hate day game pickup artist” (really good video btw) he says Luke once told him, “you don’t have to be good. you just have to have a following. you just have to market yourself. you don’t have to be good at game” Then there’s this comment from a post on reddit: “Anyone who knows Luke knows he has no… Read more »
Thanks Sentient – looking at the Judge video now. It’s interesting re the whole social access/high end circles thing right. This has been going on for literally millenia in one way or another (well, since homo sapiens invented agriculture and settled communities 10,000 years ago anyway – since settled social hierarchies became a thing). This is literally why the pretty maid marrying the lord’s son or the peasant pikeman knighted for valour on the field of battle and given a castle and a noble’s daughter as bride was a thing. Or the modern equivalents (including the tennis coach marrying the… Read more »
@j – your post slipped in while I was writing my big post. Good tips re high-end clubs – when I move on to those I’ll definitely try those since I’m not really interested in full-on social circle game either.
I haven’t seen anything from Love Systems’ Social Circle product so I know nothing about it, but I strongly suspect it will suffer from the same *structural* issues we’ve been discussing…
PS – Yeah I didn’t think much of Luke’s Game either but there’s no doubt he’s good at networking so it’s worth getting tips on that from him..
@j It’s all related, so I’ll address this bit to indirectly answer your initial question from the OP thread (Blax covered the stuff I wanted to pick up anyway). What we do is….he enters first shows the app, gets stamped. then he waits 5 mins inside. then texts me. he meets me outside a block away from the bar, and we exchange phones. So I show them the app on my wing’s phone and then I get stamped. We make sure not to enter together to avoid suspension… When I was a poor student, I used to spend enormous amounts… Read more »
@Culum Working in banking, financial markets, and the corporate world is possible without qualifications and networking, if you have some related experience (or can do something connected but not at the core of the business) and are competent. It’s also not a big party once you get there (there’s a lot to be said for the freedom of smaller companies without all the frustration of bureaucracy, procedure, and politics, of the corporate world). I personally found banking and the markets to be extremely dull (it’s really very easy to understand if you read about the fundamentals i.e. what is a… Read more »
@Culum like asking for more difficult directions so that there’s more reason to talk a bit longer I beg you pardon? instead of just saying “straight ahead”+layering in emotional value addition to the girl where possible etc, but still not actively trying to close, but rather congruently ending the interaction I thought HABD was clear, no? if you really want to get better, you can pump them up and then just leave…lol… do it socially congruently, but seeing all that disappointment when you leave will really give you an ego boost…lol I dunno, but maybe… just maaaaybeeeee… he meant something… Read more »
@Culum HABD – interesting catch re “becoming routine/boring”. Yes, it did. Right at the end, the last 50ish opens or so on the day I did 150 when I was solidly in the groove. I wasn’t thinking of AA at all – only how tired I was after a week of this and how much longer before the next set came around the corner etc. You’d think it would have happened earlier, but it didn’t..I did get into a “groove” on all the days I did 50+, but it didn’t really become “boring” till right at the end. it wasn’t… Read more »
Culum No never read that guy. I don’t read much finance news/prediction stuff. Usually at best it’s ex post facto rationalization. Most often there is some angle being played. Chunks Working in banking, financial markets, and the corporate world is possible without qualifications and networking, if you have some related experience (or can do something connected but not at the core of the business) and are competent. Well those are qualifications. J/IRL What if you could have both? You haven’t even tried. Tyranny of The Or. J – I know you are steeping yourself in the “I’M a PUA” persona… Read more »
Culum
That clip upthread was cut off.
Here is the full length
@23:58 “change your motivation to… finding out the truth”
@Sentient, I should have qualified that with “degree from Oxford or Cambridge” (they say “red brick university” on a lot of the job adverts meaning that). CVs without that tend to get ignored, unless a firm is on a big recruitment drive, is struggling to fill vacancies and you can demonstrate aptitude at interview (particularly if there’s a test of some sort). Personally I wouldn’t bother, starting your own business is best (followed by a small firm where you are given a high degree of autonomy and can get involved in lots of aspects of the business), working for corporations… Read more »
@Everyone I finally got my first number from day game by the way. I’ve been practising for months now (not to the concentrated level that Culum has), just trying to make conversation with pretty much anyone I came across as I was going about my day. For ages, I couldn’t get any traction whatsoever, I would open, usually make an observation of some sort, and then it would politely fizzle out, or I could tell that the person I was talking was distracted and wanted to go, or the other thing that really messed me up was feeling that other… Read more »
Chunky
I casually said “it’s a shame to leave things there, what’s your number?”, and she scribbled it quickly on a clothing label.
Nice! You are a sexy beast.
BTW – How many girls did you try and number close since you started?
starting your own business is best (followed by a small firm where you are given a high degree of autonomy and can get involved in lots of aspects of the business
Yup
@Chunky “the other thing that really messed me up was feeling that other person was very nervous, which would make me nervous and want to end the conversation (I was starting to get a bit disheartened wondering if that was all I could manage).” Ok. First start out by calling it out with a statement of empathy. “i know this is really weird. I don’t normally do this haha” (she’ll probably be like “no no it’s ok”) then qualify her/why you approached her, “but the way you were walking just now…caught the corner of my eye….and I said to myself… Read more »
Thanks guys. I think I’m locked and loaded for the rest of the week now. @Sentient – just 15 minutes into that Rob Judge video now. Haven’t got to the part you’ve been talking about yet, but so far he basically sounds like Blax (he literally just said “they’re just girls” lol). So far he’s criticizing PUA techniques and strategy and saying you should just be normal and go talk to girls and have it be natural and not be weird PUA guy with techniques. He basically wants you to be Nike. I understand the message he’s trying to send… Read more »
@IRL “What’s with the poor student mentality?” Grew up in a poor family. still have some of those ingrained habits like trying to hack my way through life. Except with savings and investing. I’m really good about that, cause I grew up reading personal finance books at a young age. “the 5 WHYs for your kicking the green eyed girl out of your life so fast.” I don’t feel an urge to do boyfriend/girlfriend activities. Dinners, going out to the movies, clubbing, paintballing, basketball, bowling, going on day trips etc.,….I’d rather do that with my guy friends than a chick… Read more »
Culum Buried somewhere (and not that deep really) is a lack of entitlement – if I don’t feel I’m worthy of the HB7 (much less the HB8) walking down the shopping street holding her bag from the fancy lingerie store and with her headphones plugged in, then of course I’m going to be nervous about “bothering” her and trying to number close her to spend time with her (even as I write this it feels silly because of course objectively that girl would be lucky to spend time with me, but that’s just “knowing the path” – it takes “walking… Read more »
23:35 – “I don’t want you guys to go through this. I want to give you a shortcut to improve”
spoken from a guy who came out the otherside
@HABD Or anyone else. Can you provide a link for HABD’s concise explanation of the Guard Dog Spin UP Situ? I need to explain it to someone and I’m not a great explainer, sometimes. I can explain what it is, and I know how it works, but need to explain better “how it works” and what to not fail to ‘get’ and ‘do’, in that situ. PalmaSailor did a good job of of the gist it here: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-59/#comment-224661 @SJF You have to recognise an extinction burst when you see one. If you inadvertently crack before the end of the burst… Read more »
@j Grew up in a poor family. still have some of those ingrained habits like trying to hack my way through life. The FI mental grooves we fall into. Spot them in real time just like the ‘ping windows’. They sit right next to playing not to lose (instead of playing to win), not feeling to be enough and entitled etc. Mental habits matter. I don’t feel an urge to do boyfriend/girlfriend activities. I don’t think you’ve tried. What’s the difference between Jonas and Blaximus when they say they don’t feel an urge to do something? Dinners, going out to… Read more »
@SJF
Can you provide a link for HABD’s concise explanation of the Guard Dog Spin UP Situ?
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-59/#comment-224489
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-63/#comment-227944
@Culum, No worries, you came across as quite keen on the banking/finance sector, and or working for a big corporation, and it reminded me of my thinking on this, about 10 years ago, which is very different to how I think about it now, after having experienced it. With regard to shop girl, in terms of the conversation we had, I wasn’t really trying to game her, as I had got myself into a bit of pickle a while back, whereby I was over thinking everything I was saying, to the point, where, I don’t know if you remember this,… Read more »
Mini FR vignette Crowded trendy hipster coffee shop (this isn’t the usual place where most of my coffee shop anecdotes are set – this is near the PUA shopping street and I was taking a break from approaches – I’ve seen Malcolm Gladwell sitting in here writing before which should tell you the kind of place it is). Ordering my latte at the counter with the cute 7.5 mid twenties barista. I said “latte with one shot” slowly and with EC. She misheard me and said “one sugar?” And I said “one shot” and then I wasn’t sure if she’d… Read more »
Way to go, Culum!
Chunky I’ve tried number closing about 6 times now As I suspected, few attempts. And closed one. 17% rate. Way better than Krauser… the girl getting nervous is happening in at least half my approaches. Yeah because you are a 6’4″ (right?) competitive swimmer… damn straight they will be nervous, you are a dream guy… HOWEVER – the lizard brain will still have to test you a bit, sniff out any incongruency… it’s automatic and not rational. So you have two ways to deal with this… ACCEPT you are making her hot on the open and roll with that super… Read more »
On this… I thought I had a number close a month or two ago, although this wasn’t really day game as I met the girl through work a function, got her number, asked her out, but she blew me out saying that she sorry because she thought I only wanted her number in professional a context, that she was already in a relationship, and she was sorry for giving off misleading signals. Well this was in the realm of plausible deniability. You can help yourself in situ by sexualizing the subcomms or via statements. However… also consider her response was… Read more »
@sentient
“If they are lower than a 7, yeah give them the easy qualifiers J outlined”
lol that was my assumption. The only girls that get nervous when I open are <HB7 and foreign girls that struggle speaking english (HB rank irrelevant)
Hence my recommendation:
slightly lower your value temporaily while pacing her reality. Then smoothly lead the conversation to a strategically advantageous topic that will help move the seduction forward (instadate)
Vs
going for the number when you feel the conversation is coming to a close
@ChunkyMonkey – in each interaction, try doing *one* thing that sets a man/woman vibe. Just one. It sounds to me like that alone will take you to the next level. Because it sounds to me that in some of these interactions there’s much more of a “friend” vibe (the work event girl, the shop girl, etc). You don’t need to tell her you want to fuck her in the ass (unless you want to – lol), just anything. It can be a compliment about her looking hot (or cute, whatever). It can be an obvious checking her out look and… Read more »
PS – Re daygame, I remember seeing – as a benchmark – in an old RSD Madison video somewhere, he says he averages 2 phone numbers from every 10 girls he opens (I assume 2/10 includes girls he instadates). It’s lower in daygame than nightgame for obvious reasons. So your 17% success rate is pretty good (of course, that’s 17% of girls who you tried to close, not 17% of girls you opened, but still). I haven’t been trying to close with The 400, but before that (a couple weeks ago), I did some daygame with a wing. Had horrible… Read more »
RE: Luke
Met him. Decent guy.
Camera makes him look huge, but in person he’s just a normal fat guy.
His game is definitely not one on one game.
He wormed his way into the scene – nexus of strippers, service industry hotties, club promoters, (and scammers,, drug dealers, etc) in Vegas.
Every big city has something like this. It’s all designed to milk whales.
@Sentient
That’s a cool video. I’m going out this weekend. I’ll try it out and tell you what happens.
Nice!
Field Report after doing just short of 100 approaches in the Second 400 Most observations from last week still hold so I won’t repeat them, but surprisingly, there are new things I’m learning as I go further along (shocker there!) so I wanted to note those 1. I’m learning my rhythms and state better – I’ve had a couple of days where I went out and did a few approaches (5ish – maybe 10) and that wasn’t enough to get me in the groove and I just talked myself out of continuing. It wasn’t really AA (a bit of that… Read more »
@SJF Daughter Gamer prefers submissive feminine, but will revert to masculine frame if she can’t figure out how to get what she wants in a feminine frame. She is overly protective of Mrs. Gamer’s feelings and will challenge me if she thinks that I’m the cause of hurt feewings. I need to just laugh at her and make fun of her when she does that. Now I’m a bad person in the female Gamer eyes because I wouldn’t pick up Mrs. Gamer from the hospital after the baby was delivered. I had been driving to and fro the hospital several… Read more »
Shit, wrong thread.
Cut and paste it over to the right thread.
No harm, no foul.
@Culum “(like a fast moving set who has barely stopped long enough to give me directions).” “It was a very crowded part of the street and they probably didn’t hear me properly or even register” “I had two successive moving sets refuse to stop for me (walking towards me). Both cute HB7s” […] one of them shook her head at me and the other didn’t even do that” Hey man, just curious. What’s the timeframe that you are doing these 100-set day game sessions? Cause if you’re doing them in the afternoon (before 4PM), although there may be more targets… Read more »
@Culum props on getting back out there!… couple quick points… re cute coffee shop girl My point being I wasn’t in Approach Mode or followint a script or anything but a fun moment and a bit of a flirt with a cute girl can happen anywhere out of anything and nothing and be completely silly and that’s the kind of thing I need to remember and focus on. And she’ll remember me next time. girls are where you find them…lol… and THIS^^^ is what Sentient and i have been trying to get you to understand/accept…lol… that you are an AF… Read more »
Nothing exciting to report. Just want to short cut it to the most recent comments, gentlemen…
@Fox
Since you won’t try anything new …There won’t be anything new
Hello all – checking back in and looking for some help with my situation. I’m still dating the girl I mentioned a couple of weeks back because she’s easy to be with, very attractive, and has been great to me over the past 7 months. Despite the reservations I have about having kids with her this has been the best relationship I’ve ever had. I’ll spend all day having an argument inside my own head for / against being with her, resolve to break up with her, then she’ll text me something sweet, or open the door and smile and… Read more »
@catchers
Blah blah blah. Do you want kids or not? If yes, you know what you have to do. If not, keep being with this girl cause she’s sooo “easy to be with” and shit lol
@j
Thanks for the reply. I don’t know if I want kids or not but generally believe that I do. Am I ready to change my life right now and get a girl pregnant? No. I’m happy where I’m at in life.
I just wish I could let the relationship play out and not be so tortured by my inaction on a daily basis.
@CatchersIndifference Funny your moniker is Catcher’s Indifference. Maybe you should change it to Cognitive Dissonance. Why don’t you let the relationship play out and enjoy the ride? It’s not the last time you’ll face a fork in the road. And it’s not like your primary mission is to go find a girl to give you some babies. Having children is a result of your relationship with a girl, a by product of it. You can’t have a crystal ball, you have to go with uncertainty, do your best and continue on. I don’t have an opinion on what you should… Read more »
@SJF
Appreciate the insight, brother – this is why I posted today.
MiniFR: At Walgreens. HB6ish mid twenties cashier – cute smile. Totally businesslike at the start. She gave me some advice about adverse reactions with something I bought. Then she asked me about a loyalty card and I said no. Normally I would then have stayed silent and let her ring up the purchases and bag them because I wasn’t in Approach Mode, but I’m actually changing internally after doing 500-600 opens in the last 8-9 days and I just started talking about loyalty cards and I always said no to them. Then I kind of saw a bit of a… Read more »
@ Culum Struan That’s what i often do, man, when down from the hills and into civilization. Just yesterday had a similar situation with a 6 in a chemist (drugstore). She asked me the same question re loyalty card and i replied with a grin, “I dunno, maybe i need one? What do you think…?” with a subtle grin whilst casually lasering her. She giggled something out, i stood a bit longer than necessary looking at her, grinned having ignored her response, said my goodbye using her name from her name tag (never met her before) and casually strolled out,… Read more »
@CatchersIndifference You’re a big (red pill) boy. Don’t seek external validation. But definitely swap notes with guys. (That’s exactly why someone invented the manosphere…) It’s not Blue Pill to enjoy a woman on your terms. And Deida’s The Way of the Superior Man was early Red Pill, standing on your own, relaxing into your best self, complementary, but independent of her–you on your purpose and mission and you ‘not seeking a completion in life’. https://youtu.be/MH6TJU0qWoY ….Happiness Coming and going I watch you look at me Watch my fever growing I know just where I am But how many corners do… Read more »
Yeah it’s fun isn’t it? I’m really not used to doing this at all – that’s why these new experiences are so great. I’m so used to being in Seduction Mode – and pulling from online dates, or being switched OFF and doing nothing the rest of the time and I’m finally breaking out of that artificial sort of distinction like Sentient and HABD have been saying for like two years now It’s funny because I am having so much fun just learning to do basic flirting like this when I can actually consistently pull dates and get BJs in… Read more »
LOL I just have a Luke video on background and he literally just said “you can’t expect to start networking and immediately meet Dan Bilzerian”.
I get the networking concept he’s trying to get across and he’s right on that, and of course Bilzerian is a big deal in the Vegas nightlife scene but still..I can’t help LOLing at the automatic assumption that he’s some kind of super-high status world leading guy we should aspire to meet as some kind of role model…
Culum
“I’m finally breaking out of that artificial sort of distinction like Sentient and HABD have been saying for like two years now”
Bye George I think your getting it. Next the you know you’ll just start acting on your feelings and jumping throughy the windows…
Also re tactics…. Remember Happy Hour is great because the girls are mostly going to split off alone to go home etc.
@ Catchers ” Hello all – checking back in and looking for some help with my situation. I’m still dating the girl I mentioned a couple of weeks back because she’s easy to be with, very attractive, and has been great to me over the past 7 months. Despite the reservations I have about having kids with her this has been the best relationship I’ve ever had. I’ll spend all day having an argument inside my own head for / against being with her, resolve to break up with her, then she’ll text me something sweet, or open the door… Read more »
Was at a country western store and was looking to buy some new boots. A hottie had just finished her purchase and I was in the way of her exit. She brushed past (I wasn’t moving out of her way), looking at me, with me looking back, kind of wondering and carefully sensing, then she said, “Excuse me….Love.” (“Love” was an afterthought and she said it kind of soft, like she wasn’t used to using it with strangers..) I wasn’t in the moment and girls always surprise me. I was like “Whoooahhhh! Where did that come from?” Girls get off… Read more »
@Catchers and Blaximus I posted a follow up comment to Catchers earlier and it disappeared. Probably a good thing because I think Blaximus said it better. (and involved cutting and pasting lyrics to two songs) It’s hard to to relapse to Blue Pill when you have the good thing going on that you do. But it is not essentially Blue Pill to enjoy what you have with a beautiful woman. It still can be Red Pill. (Read some Deida, it’s red pill rapped in a gooey coating, but kinda cool stuff when consorting with a good choice you make in… Read more »
Mini FR: Walk into bar with wife. I’ve to pee. Tell wife to sit by 2 not fugly post wall women and glibly tell wife to talk to them to bide her time. I throw a 20 down and tell her to order a Makers on the rocks. When I get back they’ve bought shots for all and start quizzing me. What do I do? Artist of course…and blonde next to me says non-sarcastically in a AYFKM “Of course you’re an artist” and I rap at them a little about my art. I lovingly laze all throughout and the blonde… Read more »
Guys is it just me or are the RSD videos getting really shit? Not so much the infields – because the “name” instructors are genuinely good at Game and there’s stuff to watch and learn and they can explain stuff well too (although most of that stuff is in their earlier videos till 2015 or 2016 – not much new since then). But like I’m just watching some “lecture” video with RSD Tyler and Madison from a couple weeks ago and it’s shit (I hate to say this and give Blax the red meat he wants – lol). Or not… Read more »
Soon a man will have to get written consent witnessed by a judge in front of a jury before rolling a leg over…
Culum RSD guys have grown up like all the ither game gurus and basically left the game. They are teying to bring a few new guys in but the arc is the same. After some hyperfocus shit gets old and they move on. Just look at Julien. At a social circle function recently. Large crowd. Talking with an acquaintance’s wife. Pretty hot woman. Tight. She mentions going outside for a smoke. Pretty funny that after the third time she says it I’m like Ahhhh… Ok you want me to go out with you. Duh. Lol. Who smokes? That’s for young… Read more »
@Sentient
“Then she rubs my dick . She says oh god your hard… What are we going to do about this.”
Ping window! Lead! lol..Was there no isolated location to take her hand and say “come here I know a good spot” ? but instead you:
“I say we’ll figure it out. Some more clit rubbing.
Then she’s like i need to go back in. I say cool . She splits.”
lol. Girl notch.
Good shit anyway
J
Yeah there wasn’t a place and I wasn’t too interested. Just messing with her a bit.
@Blax
Field report about vetting a girl for friend status.
She’s HB6, 22, fishes by herself in her kayak, hunts, and owns her own home. A tomboy with her shit together. Nice and sweet and fun to be with and not boring to talk to. Doesn’t chase hard.
It’s like you said.
Asdgamer
Am I solipsistic? Please check me it’s a great issue for me. I just read Solipsism 1 & 2 and I think I work the same way
@Sentient: the most interesting (not the most fun) bit of your FR is when she mentions her sister. That was a mix of a strong IOI and also testing you to see what you would do, but it wasn’t really about her sister at all.
If you worry too much about getting respect from other people, then you’re probably solipsistic. If you’re focused on your mission, you won’t even notice minor instances of disrespect. You’ll be “above” that.
IAS
Yeah that was about being married and “just getting it” secret society code.
HABD will be chiming in about threesomes shortly… Lol.
I got a kick out of the video game comment… So much frustration there.
@Culum props on getting it worked out… Talk about “ping windows” like HABD says!! I literally didn’t do *anything* except lock eyes and smirk a bit (and talk a bit more than the average customer). This is just more of the same like the coffee shop girl from a day or two ago – but I just keep posting these experiences partly for other guys and largely for myself because it helps me internalize and accept this stuff as true (and spotting ping windows and how *little* I seem to have to do). THIS^^^ is what Sentient and i have… Read more »
HABD
Yeah I did… lol Something hot about sisters.
The last Ozzie video was okay.
The Madison joint about sliding into the dm’s was horrible. As solid as I think his game is, he’s not the best teacher.
As for the shift to self development, it is no more useful than the shift to politics.
I have been tempted to do a this week in pickup, but I have my own stuff to write.
OK Gentlemen, I am beta testing a new forum system here at The Rational Male. I may shit can this whole idea or I may move it off-site, but for now I’m opening the forums up to the Field Reports page people:
https://therationalmale.com/forums/forum/field-reports/
Have at it. Tell me what you think works and what doesn’t. This is just a beta test so don’t get too attached to your topics. I’ll archive what I can, but no guarantees.
https://therationalmale.com/forums/
Yeah, like palma said, no way to log in.
@Sentient – lol when I first read the married woman FR I got really confused about the sister. It took a while to click that she was talking about the sister, but the sister wasn’t actually there and you got it on with the married woman herself. I thought it might breach opsec for you but I guess if you’re both married you have the mutual assurance. Still surprisingly overt for a woman – she was so explicit. She still had deniability with the smoking invite but everything after that – very rare for a woman to be so explicit… Read more »
Culum
Sister was there. But yeah risky.
In terms of overt, not really. When they get hot they get hot. Remember thebone who raped my hand lol. Pretty overt.
There at function that is.
FR Weird stuff. A woman was hitting on me strongly early on. Deep into my personal space and lasering me and hand on my back. (Was with a guy she introduced as her friend.) Named “Brandy.” Maybe a working girl, Idk. We danced together once. A female ex-cop was there with weird hair. She was friendly and also with a guy. Kind of lit up when I was around. Told me that she no longer worked as a cop because she believed in advising a suspect of his rights, as we danced. Maybe the two girls were working Vice? With… Read more »
@Everyone: let’s get this to 100 pages while Rollo sets up the forum properly. Some stuff I’m wondering about: how far to take it in social circle settings? Social circle of a guy friend of mine (seems fairly BP, but I don’t think I can RP him). We go swim, him, his gf (pretty but now overweight, I think she has gained weight since they started dating couple of years ago); gf sister, and female childhood friend of his gf (would-be target). I only know him (he knows I’m married, doesn’t come up during the swimming). I flirted a bit… Read more »
@Palma: seems like a good idea if you are into sailing.
I LOL’d at the turning off hot water – not sure if that is a sustainable solution as it may start appearing in the AirBnB reviews.
@Palma – it sounds like a fun idea. Certainly worth trying out (you already have the yacht right? So it’s worth putting it up on Airbnb and seeing how it goes the first time). I know nothing about sailing and the season – but if summer is the season for sailing then you still have time to do it at least once and maybe twice in July/August… @IAS – She clearly likes you. I think you know that too. I would not mess around with Facebook etc. Just insta-date or number close and escalate as normal when you have her… Read more »
Palma Now we are talking. Industrializing… Peter Tunney – DPA Hall of Famer – when he was making his first millions in biotech investing and partying hard… Opened a modeling agency to have steady supply and access to hotties. I think I’ve shared my thoughts here… If I cash out of marraige, to develop a mixed use property. First floor three bays… A yoga studio, a coffee bar and a champagne/tapas bar. A few floors of rentals above and my penthouse on top. Yoga brings the hotties on site. They get their before or after coffee… At night the bar… Read more »
@Palma: thanks. @Culum and Sentient: right. Social circle is easier and I just notice and understand more than a few years ago. Doesn’t help that I’m horny. I don’t wear the ring any more, so I think “inviting” the shit test by dropping the wife is the way to go there, if I were to go there. That “reputation” can be good for banging even more girls, but in principle it can damage other relationships (in this case I think the BP male friend wouldn’t approve at all LOL). Even if the seduction goes well, you can’t really trust girls… Read more »
….decently looking girl…
…and she was really cold LOL…
She wasn’t even that hot!
You understand the Game dynamics there, right?
Low self esteem girls don’t respond to negs the same way as high self esteem girls.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/study-the-neg-works/
@SJF: I didn’t neg her, I genuinely liked her shoes. It could be that she was really unable to tie shoelaces and got pissed because I pointed out the shoes. Or she just wasn’t in the mood to interact and I didn’t DHV enough in the open to overcome that barrier.
IAS
For future reference
Or she just wasn’t in the mood to interact
Don’t change her mind change her mood.
So this here
I just smiled and left the public transport on my stop, a couple of stops later.
well do the math. How is that ever going to play out?
Now if you plowed… “check this out” and started to tell a story, continue the interaction… well your odds go up no?
@Sentient:
your point is valid.
Now I remember, I didn’t just smile, I actually showed her my shoes, so she face turned on me (not quite a back turn so I still had a shot LOL). THEN I gave up
In any case I wasn’t going to miss my stop on her behalf, I had my luggage with me.
http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/files/2017/01/preview0108_40107596.jpg
Field Report I went to a swing dance venue first last night. Danced with two hotties. Taught the single girl a dance. Then I taught the married girl a dance after asking her husband permission to ask her to dance. But first I got the husband to like me, chatting him up and giving him positive strokes. The wife was lit up around me, as was the single girl. Both wanted to chat me up after dancing. Then I left and went to a non-dance venue… …it was a country bar with no dance floor…loud music…lots of people and packed… Read more »
At the country bar I noticed that there were three main areas:
1. High energy near the VIP stage. Party animals.
2. Low energy where people were spectating. Awkwards & introverts were here.
3. Areas where groups were insular–only interacted with people in their groups.
A little over two weeks later and I decided to end the relationship. Went over earlier this weekend, let her know that I wasn’t happy because there were three themes present in our relationship that are in conflict with what I want. Family – While neither of us comes from an ideal background I had always envisioned the future mother of my children to come from a strong, supportive, family. I see this as vital to the success of raising a child. After writing this out it seems hypocritical of me… Her response: I am being unrealistic because what I… Read more »
@Catchers – it’s not clear to me – are you still together or not?
@Culum Struan
We are not together but the break up was two days ago.