Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

So the takeaway Catchers?

If family is that important to you don’t get I to relationships with girls over 30.

Catcher'sIndifference
Catcher'sIndifference
4 years ago

@Sentient Certainly – your remark about fishing in the wrong pond was a poignant one. It’s so easy to enjoy the initial ride and remain ignorant to some of the truths in a relationship. Although I’ve advanced in RP understanding while enhancing game it’s a relatively new approach for me to define requirements and have MY pick of who I want to be with. Classically, I’d meet someone attractive, enter a relationship and live in their frame by and large for the duration of the relationship. What I don’t understand about myself is I knew her age, profession, met her… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Catchers

What’s your end game with her?

Catcher'sIndifference
Catcher'sIndifference
4 years ago

@EhIntellect

To build a family together that thrives.

I’ve been vetting her for long term commitment throughout the relationship and got to the point where my gut told me she wasn’t ready even though my mind really wanted her to be.

I just don’t know how fair / logical I’ve been with my approach and lament that fact.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“I just don’t know how fair / logical I’ve been with my approach and lament that fact.” Why are you lamenting that? Lost time? You take things where they present themselves to you. She presented to you and you had a good run of fun/intersexual experience. You can fault yourself for not having been perfect, but you are still in the same place (where things are where they are) right now. The problem you might be trying to say is that: “The greatest curse of the intelligent person is that he can rationalize anything.” (h/t to Rian Stone) Your brain… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Catchers

Yeah you just got caught up with the easy pussy… Which is fine. You could continue to see her while keeping her in “not relationship material” territory. Since she will never meet that threshold.

Just the consequences of vetting.

Really you should try spinning plates until you get one who meets all your tests and makes you want to stop spinning.

Don’t give your self away too easily.

Catcher'sIndifference
Catcher'sIndifference
4 years ago

@SJF Thanks, your post helps immensely. Your brain was telling you to settle for something your heart knew wasn’t there. Hence the cognitive dissonance. Yes, this was exactly how I thought. In another relationship I settled for a girl that the frequency of intimacy was lacking and she ultimately didn’t want to have kids but strung me along with her words over many years and I grew to resent her for it. There were many instances in that relationship where my brain settled for something my heart knew wasn’t there. I am unwilling to repeat those mistakes in a relationship… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Catchers, She hasn’t been fair to you. It has nothing to do with you being fair in your assessment. You can’t afford for your future desire to sire (children) to have a definition of fairness. You trust your gut. Sentient cuts through it all. “Just the consequences of vetting.” Which is a process that takes time. 9 months for whether sex is worth the liabilities 24 months to vet a wife (I just made those up solipsistic-ly). “Really you should try spinning plates until you get one who meets all your tests and makes you want to stop spinning.” If… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Catchers,

Congratulations. You’ve back out of a poor decision before it was REALLY bad.

You don’t fully understand the disaster you never experience, you know?

TRM is littered with damaged guys who listened to their minds overruling their heart.

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Catchers: thanks for the update.

Tell us, is your overarching sensation… Regret… Or Relief?

theasdgamer
4 years ago

TRM is littered with damaged guys who listened to their minds overruling their heart.

TRM is littered with damaged guys who listened to the FI programs running in their minds overruling their long term interests.

fify

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Catchers, when you go to a store to buy beer, do you expect to see only PBR, or do you like to be able to select from several options?

Play the field. Increase your options. If you lack options, it’s your fault.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Field Report Unusual stuff… 1. a couple of girls came to dance with me at the same time when they both had deferred when I had asked them to dance…one was wearing a tight dress that she feared would ride up and the other hadn’t had a couple of beers to dull her pain from a neck operation. Both were plausible excuses, but I wasn’t gonna ask them again until they asked me. I’ve danced with both before. 2. It was a fairly busy night and a cute 22 y.o. waitress who has been a little cool previously spent five… Read more »

Catcher'sIndifference
Catcher'sIndifference
4 years ago

@IAS

The next day I felt relief but was conflicted and hopeful.

Today I’m feeling regret.

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Catchers: go with the first impression… Relief.

Now you are probably feeling after effects from the FI social conditioning or some scarcity because you are missing the sex. Or both.

In any case, going back to her now would be a massive loss of frame. Don’t do it. You’d be not just back in the hole (ahah, jk) but actually much worse than you were before.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

@ ASD

Fify? IDK.

The FI is to men’s sexual strategy as staphylococcus aureus is to our skin.

The FI is a permanent feature and serves a fx, making species as resilient as possible. I admit the present FI strain is superbug, like MRSA. It serves the same purpose. The most resilient men reproduce. Nothing that some figurative RP hand washing and knowledge can’t prevent.

I’d not blame men en mass for their scaled eyes…ever. Though saying the FI is to personally to blame for Catchers and mens situ is like petsonally blaming bacteria for infection.

L
L
4 years ago

Hi guys, L here, new into the field

Noticed in my errands that lots of girls when i look at them they stare down, without smiling

Me, on my hand, i only look at them with impassible expression, like studying material. Don’t know if i’m subcommunicating something like dominance/submission or if scares them away or if there could be any other reason to behave like this, tried to replicate the posture to perceive feeling, only two popped out were 2 described above

Maybe someone experienced can help me figure it out, or how to discover that

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

L,

What’s your motive? Staring contests?

Just kidding!

Look L, girls are shy. Pick one and open her with some schtick…hey gurl, nice sneaks…and she’ll look up and you keep talking, relaxed like.

Watch your pressure of speech. Keep chillax and you won’t come off jumpy and inexperienced.

L
L
4 years ago

“What’s your motive? Staring contests?” Laughed instantly Noticed on a blog, in order to overcome look anxiety and inspire dominance and build up confidence, to begin with sustained look,it works Speaking about schtick, noticed, when giving compliments on matched color outfit or something inusual, they are all “really?” And i see that they are thinking “so i attract attention with this” You say shy, i say survivalist emotional calculators, and accept reality as it is, Note on speech, tried to perform “uh uh uh” like spartans in 300 on mornings, say whatever you want, rushing testosterone ahead, opening up diafragm… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

When a woman looks down after meeting your gaze, it’s a gesture of submission.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@EI

“minds overruling their heart” sounds like woo-woo bullshit, which I assumed you didn’t mean. I tried to pin the tail accurately on the donkey.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

300? Grunting? I wouldn’t open with that but you do you. Amyhoo, ya wamna bed women? Instantly stop thinking about movies and stop overthinking the process. No joke. Your brain is working against you. If you have to think about it we’ll…this is what I’ve learned about guys who want color-by-the-numbers mastery : You must be prepared to fail, like, 200+ times, before your opens flow natirally and not retarded. No joke. Ask Having A Bad Day commenter. He’s an inspiration of commitment to overcoming approach anxiety. It can be A LOT easier but that reqiureq you to shut your… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

ASD

Yep it’s woo.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

ASD, Call it what you will. Take L. What do you think his id/instinct/heart/soul is most likely telling him to do? What is his superego/conditioning/brain/intellect telling him? 1) Girls are sexy. Go fuck them. Apocylpse open one after the other until one says yes. Then fuck her. 2) Girls are sexy. Go fuck them…but first go to TRM, ask advice, hang out at ROK, check out RSD videos, maybe buy one or two. Then go out there and try your best but don’t worry of you get shot down you can always come back to the safe fold of your… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

L

“Noticed in my errands that lots of girls when i look at them they stare down, without smiling”

Smile at her and a curt head nod. Smile without showing your teeth or grinning like an idiot.

If she smiles back, say something.

West Indian Archie
4 years ago

“When a woman looks down after meeting your gaze, it’s a gesture of submission.”

Missed the context – so apologies (Seriously, there needs to be a daily recap of the conversations, or a forum), but the game is to ASSUME it’s submission and move forward with the pull.

Guys that are new to Seduction/Red Pill have enough excuses to not approach, not escalate – the community needs to start giving them reasons to approach/escalate.

Catcher'sIndifference
Catcher'sIndifference
4 years ago

Wow – this has been a brutal post break up. I’ve dated many women since my most significant relationship ended and none of them have felt like this at the end. I’ve always been the one to break up with them and have gotten over them all relatively painlessly with the exception of this latest one. It has been the only relationship since the aforementioned one where I’ve felt grief and immense regret although it comes in waves. I haven’t lost sight of the reasons I broke up with her but I can’t help but feel like I sold myself… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

@WIA “When a woman looks down after meeting your gaze, it’s a gesture of submission.” Missed the context – so apologies (Seriously, there needs to be a daily recap of the conversations, or a forum), but the game is to ASSUME it’s submission and move forward with the pull. If a girl looks to the side without also looking down, there’s no initial interest, so you need a plan to generate some interest…maybe a neg…if she looked down, she already sees you as high value and a neg would be detrimental @EI I didn’t understand your point. I normally think… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

I know it takes time but for some foolish reason I never expected this.

Do you understand now why we kept telling you that you were over-invested in this broad? Sunk costs suck.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Catcher’sIndifference props on taking action to better your situ… given your overall goal of ‘kids’, this really is the best choice for YOU… Wow – this has been a brutal post break up. sooo try to figure out WHY that is… bc doing THAT will help you get a handle on the FI pushing on you… it’s likely some type of ‘gonna be a lonely old man’ trope from the FI/social conditioning value set… I’ve dated many women since my most significant relationship ended and none of them have felt like this at the end. did any of those other… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Huh, here I am having a difficult day at work and there’s a HABD post to read!

Good stuff. I really need to go back and re-read some of those old “looks” and “marriage” threads. It was painful in length, but we really got deep into the weeds of some very important concepts in a way I’ve not seen anywhere else and there’s valuable stuff there…

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Right people. It’s officially 1 August.

The next four week Action cycle is beginning this weekend.

Agenda: to build on the steps taken last time around in opening/AA and focus on actually closing. Going back to night game (along with daygame) too after a focus on day game/street game opens.

Strong focus on the learnings right at the end of June – about “being” and not “doing” – just strong EC, body language and normal chat and the strong IOIs I had in coffee shops and Walgreens and girls getting flustered.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

“focus on actually closing.”

1. Logistics early in interaction.
2. Act. Lead in highs.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum Right people. It’s officially 1 August. The next four week Action cycle is beginning this weekend. Agenda: to build on the steps taken last time around in opening/AA and focus on actually closing. Going back to night game (along with daygame) too after a focus on day game/street game opens. MUCH better mental focus/goals!… like Sentient says, logistics early… and LEAD her to daylight… one quibble though…lol… girls are where you find them… sooo, ALL those hottest hottys in your ‘night game’ scenario are somewhere else the rest of the time, right?… and if they are ‘available’ at night,… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum forgot to add… girls during the day just need you to wake up their hamsters before you can game them… and while that true, you are doing THAT by just ‘being’ your AF stud self… like with all those girls you ‘flustered’…lol… (flustered = hamster being woke…lol)… and which situ do you think will ping as ‘more special’ to a girl’s hindbrain?… sooo, you get slotted into an even higher SMV level than if you were doing the same at night… giving her hamster even more to work with… the ‘why’ of that^^^ idea is that during daygame situs… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Thanks Sentient and HABD, I’m on it.

I don’t know if the coffee shop girl will still be there but I’m definitely going back and striking up a conversation.

Wonder if it is a good idea to go towards closing time (around 6pm I think) with a view to continuing when she’s done work…but then she’ll probably have to do cleanup. Probably best off just going at offpeak

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“Go towards closing time”

Well what’s the strategic move? Start thinking strategy before engaging. Have a plan to pull.

Do the work…

So you know the 3 coffee places, smoothly place, snack place, bars etc. That you can bounce easily to (logistics) and then boun e easily to your sex location (logistics).

Hint – if you sex location is not proximate to your meet locations you are hurting your chances and need to pick a new place (see Silver Fox).

Start thinking strategically and planning for success. Tilt the field in your favor. (Hotel lobby anyone!)

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Re “cleanup”

That’s overthink. Would she have to clean up if Leo asked her for a drink after work?

Part of logistics is asking “when do you get off” and off course heavily sexualize that and riff “whoa whoa slow down… I mean work. Naughty” etc. And because you know there is a place a block away you transition to “I’m going to get a drink now, come join me”

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum

I don’t know if the coffee shop girl will still be there but I’m definitely going back and striking up a conversation.

that’s the best you can do for a ‘path to daylight’ for coffee shop girl?…lol…

try again… and really try to feel the FI in play here…

good luck!

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

HABD – yes, nothing else obvious occurred to me. Clearly there’s a better way you have in mind but I’m not seeing it. Let me give it some thought.

I also heard from one of my better wings (not my usual good looking wing – this another mid 20s guy who is also good looking and kind of a natural – he lost his virginity in a threesome) who is having some down time at work and is up to go out a lot over the next few weeks. So that’s good.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum HABD – yes, nothing else obvious occurred to me. Clearly there’s a better way you have in mind but I’m not seeing it. Let me give it some thought. maybe you already have it worked out in your head and just haven’t put it up, but there is an apparent BIG gap btwn your ‘just stop in to say, “hi”…’ and [roll off her after blowing your load]…lol… and that^ lack of detail is a ‘logistics’ fail…lol… also, you’ll need to figure out how to engage with her (while she’s ‘working’) but not just stand around ‘waiting’… etc… etc…… Read more »

echo
echo
4 years ago

Anyone here visit Roosh forum nowadays? I used too a few years back, and I find it so interesting how the whole personality of the forum has changed. I’m not talking about new members either. The regular posters and the mods who used to ban people for talking about looks and their importance etc are now actively participating in threads that arer stressing the importance of looks, almost giving ‘game’ a back seat. I’m not saying they are wrong, but it’s an interesting change! I wonder if even yareally has changed his tune nowadays!!? (he used too imply looks meant… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

@echo

“? (he used too imply looks meant nothing and that it was all about game) but the same posters who used to share his view seem to have switched lanes.”

wrong.

“What could have caused this? Has the dating dynamic ACTUALLY changed since things like tinder etc to the point where the power of ‘game’ has been drastically reduced??”

Go outside and you’ll find out….

lol larpnerd

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@HABD – I hadn’t actually. I need to think this through a bit more as I was kind of banking on chatting while ordering my coffee and then somehow extracting her outside..hmm. @echo – mersonia comes across as a bit of a dick but he generally knows his stuff. To answer your question, I never read much but I read a little bit on the Roosh forum (back when they had a long running thread on sugar daddy game and I used to do a lot of that). I wasn’t a big fan although there were a few really good… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum hmmm, how to stay in a coffee shop for an extended period of time… while ‘not chasing’ the barista babe?… and while also DHVing… (i.e. doing your own thing… in proximity to coffee shop girl…) do you have a laptop?… and some important ‘work’ that you need to get done but wanted to take a break/change of pace?… so trying a new spot… lol THAT should get you at least several hours (if not all day…lol) in situ… w/o just sitting around waiting for her… and you can open other girls there too as they cycle through… so it’s… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

So I was out Fri. night and went to a place I don’t normally go because the dancing event was cancelled. A country bar, but no real dance floor. I got there early because it was Plan B and the place was pretty empty. Lots of people at a nearby outdoor event. Lots of them would likely head for the bar. The outdoor event was free, so I spent some time there. Trashy Euro dj music and lights. Just passing the time. So I chatted up some people at the bar, including a tall young buff guy. I said that… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

HABD, Sentient, I had kind of a big revelation in terms of my sticking points after an approach earlier today. I think this is a fundamental inner game self-sabotage thing blocking my cold approach success. It’s pure inner game – I already have the Game knowledge, the Game skills, *and* the experience to have way, way more cold approach success than I do – but for 2-3 years I’ve been “stuck” with cold approach and I think I finally understand why. In the last 5-6 years, I have literally had about 6-8 cold approach numbers and one cold approach lay… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum

sooo, no laptop, huh?…lol

good luck!

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
4 years ago

@Culum Re: Bad back and fear of not being good in bed I’ve got one of those life-long bad back (lower lumbar misalignment leading to compressed disks on occasion). Missionary position is hard (heh) on me. Stamina-ways, I’m not too good either, being on the verge of 60. I keep wanting to do HIIT which would help. I find changing up positions help with the least painful is either bottom or behind. Or from the top getting one of her legs up and not actually lying on her but sort of kneeling. That takes the strain off the old back.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

Don’t trade approach anxiety for performance anxiety. Have a post for you tomorrow.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@Culum THe fix? I’m not sure. All I can think of is just face it head on now that I now what the issue is. That means my goal above all else is to get a cold approach lay this month to “break” that habit. That means in practice, all I will focus on every day and night is to (a) approach; (b) Put out a SOI; (c) Keep going and not self eject. That’s it. No other game “tech” stuff. All that is inside me and will come out when needed and overthinking it will only paralyze me more.… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Thanks guys. I’ve been thinking about this a bit more and I’ve devised my plan for the rest of the month to focus on my “next steps” re closing chicks and my sticking points. It’s a new Challenge like in June, but the goals are different to reflect that I’m targeting different sticking points – I want to close on cold approach now and get laid off cold approach. That’s my main goal. This is where I hold myself accountable so I’m telling you guys I’m gonna do this. The goal is to do 20 days in August (some days… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum

still no laptop, huh?…lol

really feeel that hand on your shoulder…

how about giving up a quota system for ‘trying to get laid’ ( which implies you ‘are not there yet’) and just approach girls with the intent of getting 400 opens and then ‘following up’ when you ping a girl like that girl at the stop light?

you know, just BE the AF stud you ARE… and go meet girls…

good luck!

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Culum: here I am with an N=2 and don’t have performance anxiety. You may recall I asked for very specific technical advice on positions a few weeks ago 🙂 Don’t be shy and ask here for technical advice. Have you studied the spiderman fingering technique for squirting? Also, you have to feel free to really enjoy those BJs. They are performing for you (you are the prize). You “perform” for yourself, not for them. You tell them the positions you want and they will like to be led. Standing Doggy should be easy on your back for example, and it… Read more »

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Sentient: incidentally, my ESG doesn’t appear to orgasm. She moans a lot and I pound her deep and fast, she gets really loud when I do her Viennese oyster and even more when I transition from that into holding her legs up and together (I think in this position, the thrusts touch the front part of her vagina and possibly rub through the G-spot). But there isn’t denouement – my wife I can see she comes and partially shuts down for example. I don’t think there was single time ESG actually wanted me to stop… Except possibly when I fingered… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Thanks HABD. It’s interesting (and probably the reason for you saying what you said), but when I read your post and thought “yeah, he makes sense” just now, I actually felt a lot of pressure lift off me. It was almost palpable. Like I felt unburdened at the idea of not having to hit that quota under pressure. Like I was free. Probably the FI coming off my shoulder.. @IAS – absolutely. I am going to try what you and Disgruntled Earthling have suggested for my back and go from there. I mainly need more willing test subjects 🙂 (I… Read more »

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
4 years ago

I second Standing Donkey! Use your imagination – there’s nothing too weird or ‘dirty’ to them. Observe and adjust. My fave prop these days is the Ottoman. All kinds of variations there and also gets you out of the bedroom. Get a nice big fluffy one…

I find careful weight-lifting helps with the back. Bench press and any kind of pull-up will activate back muscles. Squats are iffy – I don’t do them much due to a hernia op a couple years ago. Just not worth the risk.

IRL
IRL
4 years ago

@IAS I’ve been thinking of gifting her […] Why would you do that? Why set a precedent (especially in the context of the previous bf-gf stuff)? The medium is the message. Going through the motions, mental habits and all that. I mean, ultimately do what you want whenever you want. Just don’t forget to check your motives. A simple thought experiment: why didn’t you say “I want to get her to a state that she can’t wait to do something for me, tell her to buy one and then make her come for me over the phone/text”. @Culum, you should… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

I was just reading this on my phone now in the coffee shop and in honour of you guys I opened and flirted with the fatty college girl who looked like she was working on her dissertation 😎

(HABD, not the same coffee shop with the cute barista)

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

IAS Your ESG has never had an orgasm? Ever? In her life? even by herself???? I’d tell her to put on a show for you… But you hit a good point, sex is NOT about female orgasm for women. That’s a nice to have. [I’ll stipulate for the sperg squad that yeah if you NEVER get your girl off that can mean trouble down the road]. Sex is about so much more, connection, being dominated, being penetrated… hindbrain hoping for a baybee… etc. So one should not stress over the short term…. Culum On sex… The biggest sex organ she… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

tine…

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Pro tip Regardless of how much you will see it repeated all across the sphere, ” good sex ” isn’t necessarily always about speed pounding a chick. Slooowwww doowwwnnn…… If there’s one complaint I’ve heard often over the years from chicks ( heard a 22 year old with the complaint a couple of weeks ago ), is the ” jackrabbit ” fucked who thinks he’s a ” jackhammer “. Timing. Rythym. Reason. One should be able to coax out orgasms while bare!y moving. Some chicks have great difficulty coming for whatever reason. 2 come ( no pun ) to mind… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Wetter than Pacific…

Put an eye out….

Dumb ass spellchecker…😐

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Regardless of how much you will see it repeated all across the sphere, ” good sex ” isn’t necessarily always about speed pounding a chick. Slooowwww doowwwnnn…… If there’s one complaint I’ve heard often over the years from chicks ( heard a 22 year old with the complaint a couple of weeks ago ), is the ” jackrabbit ” fucked who thinks he’s a ” jackhammer “. It depends on the girl or on the guy, Idk. Not enough data points for me. My 3 girls all wanted the dick immediately. One (my college gf) had to settle for makeouts,… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

She got wetter than the Pacific,

That reminds me…

“The grey sea and the long black land
The yellow half moon large and low
And the startled little waves that leap
In fiery ringlets from their sleep….”

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Put an eye out….

Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp boob…

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@IRL: glad to see you commenting again! @Sentient: one can’t 100% rely on a girl’s telling you these things even if you are pinging as alpha… But she says “I don’t know. It feels really good”. “I don’t know” I interpret as she did not have one. She had a religious upbringing so there might be quite a bit of lingering repression? She lives with her parents still, and allegedly doesn’t have a vibrator. From her physical response during fucking it looks like Blax’s “hardware girl” – she is definitely getting super wet etc. and she doesn’t mind not getting… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

culum

Related to that position above, you standing, her laying on a horizontal surface (edge of bed, table, desk, car hood etc…) should be easy on your back and with her knees up very deep… Hold her wrists and pull her into you as you thrust. Or put her legs on your chest and lean over her with a hand on her throat. Little added dominance.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum Thanks HABD. It’s interesting (and probably the reason for you saying what you said), but when I read your post and thought “yeah, he makes sense” just now, I actually felt a lot of pressure lift off me. It was almost palpable. Like I felt unburdened at the idea of not having to hit that quota under pressure. Like I was free. Probably the FI coming off my shoulder.. this^^ is great!… your hindbrain is finally tired of the FI bull sh*t…lol if you are doing more than (essentially) saying “hi… let’s f*k!…” you are still trying to ‘earn… Read more »

Jonas
Jonas
4 years ago

Might be a strange question but what do you guys think about youtube persona alpham?

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

@Jonas:

You coulda given me a trigger warning.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

And now my YT recommendations are full of metrosexual shill shit.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@KFG It’s August. My favorite dopamine month. I went out and planted two acres of deer forage food plots on Sunday. Had a soaking rain for germination on Monday. That makes it 5 out of 6 years that happened and it wasn’t a happy accident. I planned it that way. It was a lot of work spreading 300 lbs. of urea for the brassica seeds. Disking it in, dragging, spike harrow smoothing, cultipacking, spreading seed (four different varieties, four separate times over two acres, then cultipacking again. The getting a nice rain for early germination. And I have to wear… Read more »

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

I don’t care much for AiC in heavy mode. When they’re a bit more mellow you can really hear what they’re doing, which is quite nice. Extraordinary even.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Ok, Kfg

I was a bit too busy in Dermatology residency mode to enjoy that shit. I Think I read about Kurt Cobain’s death in Orlando during a conference week. Shit I was busy in the late 80′, early nineties. Didn’t have time to listen to much music.

Do me a favor, look up and list some AiC songs in mellow mode that might strike me as quite nice.

I can’t decide if they are nice or just draw out emotions.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

Here’s one from their Unplugged album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1-WTB61bL8

They remind a bit of Pentangle, only with a bit too much heroin and not nearly enough Jacqui McShee:

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

I see what you did there with the Pentangle, a jazz-influenced folk rock band. I’ve only mentioned No Excuses to my red pill buds like five times in the last couple months. I has a good vibe running on a treadmill, or pumping iron. Those guys, AiC were dumbfucks in the moment. But thanks thanks gods they can inspire dopamine in a red pill way. Like I said, music is just spurring me on these days. I am in a zone. I do have a red pill posse. I do fuck my beautiful wife a decent amount. I do parent… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MdpXW9Xos

Pickup Uber Alles fanbois gonna have a hard time with this one… Touching on Authenticity and fulfilling your real desire with a “quality” woman…

Been amusing wafching RSD grow up.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Highest Quality Woman. So, after years and years and bootcamps and whatevrthefuck, now the NEW thing is ” screening ” for hottest quality women. *Yawn* Btw, in 15-20 minutes or so I saw Zero ” Game “. But anyway, so they chanted consistently over the years about Pulling Chicks ( presumably for sex..), now they are branching out into a new bluer pill market. ” ….Feel better in your own body..”. Yeah, this is what you led dudes into, the whole ” Sex is the most important answer in life “. Of course guys don’t ” feel ” better if… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

sad thing is, he makes a video from Hawaii and it’s watched by guys that paid for their services….like..the service of going to Hawaii on your fucking dime.

Quality….

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Wrote these notes when I got home drunk last night – reposting for posterity Out with goodlooking wing. Bar hopping various trendy bars in the high-end area. Goodlooking enough that he had a fat six come up to him early in the evening (like 7 pm) when everyone was still sober and stroke his arm and go “niiice..” and look him up and down. Went to some fancy bars..not much crow.d. Coached him through a breakup. Pretty bluepill dude. Cool guy I got increasingly drunk. Final bar. I went to th restroom drunk Came back and wing talking to two… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“Drunk is no excuse not to number close by the way!”

Especially the boyfriend…

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

M O N & etc. the environment includes you. Influence yourself, influence your environment.

Start by controlling your emotions. Don’t be spraying your emotions all over the place like a toddler peeing on the floor.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
3 years ago

Another shitty weekend inside my head. It’s like I’m really good at talking myself out of taking action especially solo. It’s like my subconscious knows I’m attractive to women and capable of pulling, so it prevents from actually getting into proper conversations because those lead to lays. I’m done with this. What is that saying? Something about making progress when the pain of the status quo is worse than the pain of making the change? I succeeded with The 400 in June, when I left TRM for a couple of weeks to focus on taking action. Too much of the… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

@Culum shake it off… deep breath… that^^^ FR was GREAT!!!!!! and right on schedule too…lol… but not kidding… see below sooo, back to another 400 opens… but this time you have permission to follow up on any ‘ interesting ‘ girls… but only for instadates (so have your logistics sorted)… AND only after the first 100… doing THAT should be enough to ‘earn it’… (which is what you are stuck on…) it’s not SUPPOSE to be THAT easy for men to get laid… by all those ‘quality women’…lol… and especially by YOU!!!…lol… social CONDITIONING, yo!!!…lol… how’s that extinction burst (FI)… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Culum… Whazzup??? A few thoughts for you while you proceed on your quest… I said this here upthread “Especially the boyfriend…” As a joke, but not a joke… Because you are replacing one buffer/Validation loop with another… If the objective is to “get laid” then your focus needs to be on getting laid. Not on “winning” a conversation with your “better looking” wing… That’s bad validation… ruthless… Get ruthless… so in that convo you need to not ‘win” you need to figure out which girl is the best available for a SNL and then use your wing to engineer that.… Read more »

echo
echo
3 years ago

New PUA called Tony Hustle seems to be doing very well (won’t let me post youtube links for some reason. Tried before but post was never published). Only issue with him is: 1/He’s linked to Tom Torerro who obviously was exposed as hiring an actress for one of his infields 2/He’s a very good looking guy apparently. (according to Tom in one of his books as well as Tony himself). Find it hard to take infields seriously when the guy is good looking. Of course he will get laid since he has immediate attraction, but I doubt any of his… Read more »

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
3 years ago

Back in the dancing scene after my last relationship… This particular girl “A” has been on my radar for a LONG time but despite her throwing IOI’s and being flirtatious with me I’ve been taking mental notes but not acting on it because she’s much younger than I’m used to having interest in me. Anyways, the first night I came back, she sought me out of the crowd of 50+, was very excited to see me after 7 months plus and we danced straight away. When I left she gave me a big hug and reiterated her excitement that I… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Catchers

When you don’t lead they dont follow.

Lead. Act. Have a plan.

All that is communicating intent.

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

If you see her out tonight, sure you can test her and let her open you, but once that happens your job is to do what?

Isolate and escalate. Bounce her a few times in the venue and then out someplace else. SNL is the objective from there. If you end up getting push back then you follow for a day 2. Not before.

Ruthless.

theasdgamer
3 years ago

They’re only women, they amount to 50% of the planet and most of them aren’t going anywhere.

Amen, brother. Pussy is just pussy. There are something like 6 billion women on Earth. Even if a woman is in the top 1%, there are 60 million just as hot as she is. Competition. If she walks, bfd.

theasdgamer
3 years ago

Catchers

When you don’t lead they dont follow.

Culum has a problem leading. It’s why he doesn’t like dancing.

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
3 years ago

She no-showed!

Her friend was there however and happy to see me. She asked straight away if I went to the activity I mentioned to “A” and I confirmed, elaborated briefly, and didn’t make a big deal of it.

They obviously talked because I never mentioned plans to the friend. I took it as her reading my temperature on the flake out.

Other than that not much to report.

IAS
IAS
3 years ago

@Palma: well done there. You have more experience than me by far but sometimes a little bit of theory still helps 😛 Regarding bf destroyer game, the idea is to lead her to “destroy” the bf herself, not for you to do it. As you may have experienced yourself in the past, if you “attack” a girl’s guy directly her response is more likely be to defend him. That’s not where you want to be. You can of course get her indirectly to reach the conclusion “young men don’t understand young women” (or even say it yourself) without targeting the… Read more »

IRL
IRL
3 years ago

@Palma Bf destroyer? Why? I say don’t engage with the topic if you don’t have to. Has she given you any IHABF objections? No. She’s giving you a different puzzle to solve. Her hindbrain is trying to figure out if you’re a high-value Secret Society guy who ‘just gets it’ and won’t become a needy AFC who may ruin her everyday life (i.e. work and social circle – both of which you can step into). She wants the upside with no downside. The upside is the alpha stud. Your sub-comms do most of the job. Body language, eye contact, closing… Read more »

IRL
IRL
3 years ago

@Culum +1 to Sentient’s feedback, so just this one from me: Dude, what’s with the little bitch victim whispering in your ear? Discipline your thoughts or they’ll control you. Why can’t I do this sober “It felt good, time to do it sober!” Another shitty weekend inside my head. “Another opportunity on Monday! And the rest of the week. And the weekend. I think I wet my pants just thinking about it!” lol It’s like I’m really good at talking myself out of taking action especially solo. It’s like my subconscious knows I’m attractive to women and capable of pulling,… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

😀

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Palma Here are some thoughts for you and lurkers… First, on Service Pros… tricky if you go to the place over and over. On one hand you have more opportunity to DHV, on the other hand each time you don’t progress the pick up you lose some of that DHV. Hitting them hard and fast is critical. In your case, you tried to pull twice and failed. You don’t go into specifics of those encounters but it is reasonable to conclude you did not DHV enough and did not Game her enough to succeed. And instead of baby stepping you’ve… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Good game is all about consistency and replicability. Apocalypse opens can work, they just wont be consistent or replicable.

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Remember “whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt”.

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