For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@Fox – it’s not new tricks. If you have a high notch count you were doing it right before. Because you had the right attitude, the detailed strategy and tactics came naturally as an outgrowth of that. You didn’t have to consciously think about it. Now you’ve lost that attitude, so you’re having to think about all the steps consciously. But it’s EXACTLY what you were doing before. Like take this texting example before – we’re all telling you not to text her, but you’re in scarcity so you’re texting her. I don’t know when your “peak” time with women… Read more »
@SilverFox Good to meet you too. I just read your last message, this bit in particularly: “I must achieve this if i’m to truly live as a free man, who really doesn’t give a fuck, instead of half-arsed pretending not to…” I think it’s OK to care or invest time in something, but it has to be the right thing, top of that list are your well being, health, and finances. When it comes to people, give your time and care to people that would do the same for you. That text girl for example, she’s not a good person,… Read more »
@Fox, I read the following sentence of yours and had a question for you: “You’re only as good as your last game, hey?” Your use of the word “hey” – do you live in Europe? Is that a particular way certain people talk in a certain area? In America, people usually would say, “You’re only as good as your last game, huh?” I noticed a few times that YaReally used the same phrasing with “hey?” as you have here. Just curious. (also, check out the YaReally summary page I created by clicking on my name. On that page scroll down… Read more »
OK here’s my situation. I’m 57, divorced 10 years, discovered the RP a few years ago. Currently in a LTR that is very satisfying. She responds well to RP behaviors which continues to blow my mind about how easy but counterintuitive it is, and I normally pass the shit tests easily. Last weekend she mentioned after what seemed to me some good sex (for her as well), that I never found the thing that really makes her crazy. I responded with something like, well whose fault is that? (I know, mine, burden of performance) She said it wouldn’t be as… Read more »
@KrammarK
“I can’t treat this woman as I would have some throwaway whore from when I was in my 20’s.”
lol. If you don’t fuck her like the whore she is, she will dump your moral ass and find someone who will. That’s the red pill.
What’s with the ” whore ” thing?😁
Women, all women ( taking into account religious or other inhibitions) have particular needs, even if they don’t outright recognize them. It’s not so much about them being ” whores ” as it is about a biological mechanism manifesting itself.
It’s not about whores. I see that as a misunderstanding/misjudgment among men and to broader society ( which is bullshit of the highest order because people do a lot of shit they find satisfying behind close doors, as it should be, but turn all falsely puritanical in public ).
Those are valid points and I knew someone would say that. Actionable advice is what I’m after. Act like the conversation never happened and try new things until something clicks? A direct question as to what it is she wants didn’t get me an answer. So is this some type of shit test/ comfort test? I get that I may need a kick in the ass here, it seems I have a blind spot, but try and be helpful, don’t just AMOG me.
@The Silver FoX That wisdom is so valuable to me right now, HABD. Pure genius. Like i have mentioned, in the field i can hit the chicks with confidence & swagger, buuut can you pull/close them?…lol… THAT’s the goal, right?… but you have that FI monkey on your back… like this but have been out of rotation for too long out here on the ranch, that getting back on the pony is proving more tricky than i first imagined. it’s NOT really tricky… you did it before, right?… even without the combined wisdom of the current TRM brain-trust here… which… Read more »
@KrammarK “A direct question as to what it is she wants didn’t get me an answer” If it was anal she would have hinted at it or directly asked you “have you ever done anal?” (aka “let’s do anal”) So because she didn’t give you an answer to your question my conclusion is: rape fantasy. If she’d told “I want you to forcefully just skull fuck me, rip my panties off and fuck me to sleep” she wouldn’t get off, had you done it without being told to do it (“Just Get It”). She WANTS to give token resistance while… Read more »
Dog logic does not apply. She’s already gone overt so to speak, now she’s looking to you to just get it. Shit test? Hmmmm. Maybe but I doubt it. Being sexually tone deaf isn’t the same thing as ignoring or dealing with a simple shit test. A complaint I’ve heard consistently over the years from women of all ages is that their man seems to have built in limitations that they don’t recognize, and the women are reluctant to explain these things for fear of hurting ego. Now, for snl’s and fuckbuddies, it doesn’t matter. But longer-term relationships are different.… Read more »
From Nancy Friday’s My Secret Garden: Room 3: Rape, “don’t just stand there, force me” Rape does for a woman’s sexual fantasy what the first martini does for her in reality; both relieve her of responsibility and guilt. By putting herself in the hands of her fantasy assailant – by making him an assailant – she gets him to do what she wants him to do, while seeming to be forced to do what he wants. both ways she wins, and all the while she’s blameless, at the mercy of a force stronger than herself. The pain she may suffer,… Read more »
@ j
I’ve never had a discussion with a woman about anal beforehand outside of ” that’s an exit, not an entrance “.
Acta non verba.
KrammerK – Its just another Shit Test. Maintain your own MPO and frame. Don’t second guess yourself in the bedroom or anywhere else. Push both your boundaries and hers, but do it because that’s where you want to go, not because she is implying you have something to prove. With the divorce and the BP churchianity behind you, go out with other women and bring those experiences to bear with the LTR.
Lol, that secret garden book must’ve shook dudes to their cores.
“I’ve never had a discussion with a woman about anal”
me neither I just sticked me finger in their ass. If they don’t say anything or push me away, that’s my permission to shoved it in. RAPE!!!
Lol, that secret garden book must’ve shook dudes to their cores.
If I remember right, it freaked out Andy pretty hard.
That’s my recollection also.
It completely blew his mind.
@Blaximus – I always said it was a one-way street.
Built in limitations – kind of why I mentioned the moral conditioning, I know there is some of that happening, and as you say she probably doesn’t want to make me feel less by pointing it out.
I appreciate the comments. They are giving rise to some better thoughts to work with now.
@j – The rape fantasy sounds like it. If she has to ask for it, it won’t work. Thanks for the insights guys.
@KrammarK Those are valid points and I knew someone would say that. Actionable advice is what I’m after. Act like the conversation never happened and try new things until something clicks? A direct question as to what it is she wants didn’t get me an answer. So is this some type of shit test/ comfort test? I get that I may need a kick in the ass here, it seems I have a blind spot, but try and be helpful, don’t just AMOG me. the point you are missing is that AWALT… and given your social conditioning, you still have… Read more »
@HABD – LOL, thanks, good to be reminded of my victories like the 18 minute lay. No, I haven’t done The 400 yet, but real progress is being made (recently had my first daygame instadate and first daygame number, with different girls among other things). Still not pushing my comfort zone as much as I should (although I am to some extent). I got sick of posting FRs that went nowhere and were rehashes of the same sticking points so I stopped. I was planning to do a big update in the next 2-3 weeks, hopefully with even more progress..… Read more »
Married Shit Tests Field Report In a few days we’ll be taking a trip and Mrs. Gamer was worried about being ready…shit tests ensued…I had everything under control, but I hadn’t told her…so I was just lol’ing at her, joking, teasing…the one thing I did NOT do was take any of her overt communications seriously, many of which were marginally disrespectul and bossy…I figured out what was driving the shit tests and eventually let her know that I had everything under control. I let her stew a bit, which perplexed her…more manipulative machiavellian masterful married game…once Mrs. Gamer realized the… Read more »
@Culum @HABD – LOL, thanks, good to be reminded of my victories like the 18 minute lay. you really ARE an AF stud… you just have to get out of your own way… (ie tell the FI to f*k off!!!…) No, I haven’t done The 400 yet, but “but”…lol… didn’t you say that approaching WAS your sticking point?… you already know how to feeel that hand on your shoulder… NOW, it’s time for you to slap that hand away and step up to telling the FI to f*k off!…lol… but not kidding… real progress is being made (recently had my… Read more »
HABD, thank you. That hit home.
I won’t post again here until I’ve done The 400.
@Culum
HABD, thank you. That hit home.
I won’t post again here until I’ve done The 400.
that’s GREAT!!!… and i think i can speak for Sentient when i say that we expect a FR next week…lol… but not kidding…
we believe in you!…
good luck!
Time’s up Culum. No more sneaking out of it.
So gentlemen, i’ve also been distance gaming the other attractive Polish chick i met at the party a couple of weeks ago. She half-heartedly mentioned that she had a b/f but wasn’t sure where it was going…hint hint hint…which i just ignored and sarged on… So i text her last week, tell her to call me, and she complies. Set up a meeting that i had to flake on (another story), let her know in brief message & asked her about when she was visiting some town she mentioned that i haven’t been to in years. She texts me back… Read more »
Elaborate on what B and C mean. It’s not clear. If you go to C with her what does that have to do with B? Is she staying in C?
Bigger issue is why you are asking her to invite you? Just make plans you want to do with her. She goes along or not. You lead.
B & C are just town names. It’s her mission i’m inviting myself on. I just thought i’d throw a cheeky “invite me on your trip” to gauge her response, my own little shit test i suppose. Again, she lives 3 hours from me and the trip is another 4/5 hours west so i’m just trying to give myself the opportunity for us to hang out so i can either get into her pants or not…
She has 2 places she lives, about 4/5 hours apart…
She has a place in B which is close to C where some event is on she’s going to…
Fox
“to gauge her response”
But that is what your inviting her out does too, without the buffering and awkwardness of pretext.
I see you driving her, probably paying for gas and sleeping on the couch…
What do you think she is going to respond to your couch text with?
It’s an interesting one, for sure. I gamed her & dinner flake girl pretty hard at the party, but buffered with too much booze as previously discussed, so no cigar that night. I’m just keeping an open mind and trying to put myself back out there. Obviously not into the possible scenario you mentioned above (drive, pay, couch). So I need to sexualize it from now. Make my intentions very clear. She’ll either be into the couch text (swatting her shit test away) or not. If she’s not, then i don’t need to waste anymore time pursuing her i suppose…… Read more »
What happens when she doesn’t give you a yes or no?
her: Now look who’s cheeky [insert emoji that means something to her and something else to you]
My prediction – she gives you juuuuust enough beta bait so you go amd drive her. Sleeping status is unresolves.
OK Fox… Let her rip. Let’s see what happens.
Step up one and all… Place yer bets!
@FoX re polish girl when she threw out that IHAB and you continued to sarge did you bang her that night? you know, like a walk in’ hardon… errr alpha stud would have?…lol… I’m guessing not… = in the beta orbiter hole… sooo, stop digging!!!… she’s NOT a “good girl”…lol you COULD invite yourself along but that might involve some type of “surprise! I have a penis!!” i.e. it’s her frame all the way… questions – have you sexualized your interactions at ALL? have you touched her? at all? even just to violate hr space? like Sentients waitress at the… Read more »
plus
@FoX at 7:53p
really try to feel that FI hand pushing on you… and tell me why…
good luck!
@FoX
hint – it’s the difference btwn ‘boy time’ and ‘girl time’…
good luck!
@FoX
plus plus … she already TOLD you that she has a (((couch))) for you to sleep on…
good luck!
Have been physical with both girls at the party. Taught them both how to drop a track at party. I know how to sarge. I would have moved much sooner since then if i physically lived closer. Anyways, maybe i’m trying too hard to make something happen and should just forget them both unless i get obvious IOI’s from them. Fucked if i’d do that trip & sleep on a couch, but yeah, it is her trip, so fuck just tagging along. Just trying to make something happen. It was never this difficult in the past. Now i’m just second… Read more »
@KrammarK
There’s a podcast with Jack Murphy that touches on a few aspects linked to your question:
http://chloeluv.com/?powerpress_pinw=4734-podcast
21:16 – their discussion on dominance starts
25:30 – babystepping and pushing boundaries
1:03:31 – rape fantasies
And here’s Jack’s blogpost mentioned during the interview:
http://jackmurphylive.com/be-more-dominant/
Somehow related (credit to Archie):
http://www.westindianarchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/tumblr_p93rvzXJGi1qh59n0o3_540.png
http://www.westindianarchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/tumblr_p93rvzXJGi1qh59n0o1_540.png
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@Sentient Fox What the fuck about “Do not text her” do you not understand? This shit isn’t going to work if you keep ignoring what we say to do. Ahh the old good The Scorpion and The Frog fable… There are forces stronger that the rational process and logic. @FoX Apparently you can’t help but do something to target these girls. Your lack of abundance shows and the effects of your face-to-face game evaporate. Everything later spirals out into the orbiter territory. Guys here can’t stop you from feeling the need to do something, so go out and channel it… Read more »
@The Silver FoX ok, got more time and not on my phone… so here’s a better breakdown… So gentlemen, i’ve also been distance gaming the other attractive Polish chick i met at the party a couple of weeks ago. She half-heartedly mentioned that she had a b/f but wasn’t sure where it was going…hint hint hint…which i just ignored and sarged on… this is good, but if you don’t close that night, you end up in a bigger beta orbiter hole than if you hadn’t… that’s WHY pua instructs to not ‘make out or escalate’ until you have a clear… Read more »
@SilverFox I was just reading the text exchange with the Polish girl, and with the text about not being confident driving in the city and you sleeping on the couch. It looks like she’s trying to flip the script, grab the frame, and get you chasing (that’s how I read it, anyone, correct me if you think I’m wrong?). It seems to me she’s playing the vulnerable girl (as in, she can’t possible drive that far and through a busy city) and is appealing to the male propensity for protection, so you’ll say “No, no, don’t do that, etc., etc.,… Read more »
@SilverFox Don’t feel bad, texting and emailing women is a nightmare, they’re masters at manipulating, and the slower pace of the written word gives them more time to think. The most unreasonable and underhanded message always comes across as so innocent and reasonable on at least the first 50 readings, and then you find yourself descending the rabbit hole whilst agreeing to the most ridiculous things. The worst for me was, after arranging a date with a girl online, but at the last minute agreeing to change plans. So rather than meeting just her for a drink, I was to… Read more »
chunky
I thought of this:
He’s using text, not email. Too many words.
PalmaSailor
He’s using too many words .. period.. plus he’s not taking anyone’s advice anyway</i
He says he is…
The Silver FoX
June 7, 2018 at 5:53 pm
Good stuff Sentient. I’m paying proper attention now…
…but not acting that way.
Acta non verba.
PalmaSailor I think he wants to take the advice but is coming from a difficult place No question about that. Any man who has become Betaized has formed habits that are either unconscious or semiconscious. Friend of mine was a smoker, he had a mouse-maze habit that tied his ciggys to his coffee. Get cup of coffee -> light ciggy. I dunno if he ever quite smoking or not, but if he did probably one hard part was “coffee without ciggy”. It would be like a itch. These habits are neural networks. Literal neural pathways in the brain. The old… Read more »
@Palmasailor
Some people can quit smoking and some can’t. I suspect it may be related to the marshmallow test.
@ HABD I really appreciate you taking the time for such a detailed analysis of the situation i have created for myself. As obvious to all here, i’m having trouble swallowing and absorbing the RP, and it is tasting rather bitter. But it’s the FI as you have rightly pointed out, that i have to overcome. And i can feel it perniciously pushing down on me, from without and within. And it is very stifling indeed. Outside i can eventually learn to handle, but only after i to kill what’s coming from within me… My history is that back in… Read more »
@The Silver Fox props on putting in the effort… it does get easier… and overall you really are doing pretty well… but you might want to rethink this… Outside i can eventually learn to handle, but only after i to kill what’s coming from within me… i know i keep saying this, but this is the FI pushing on you…lol… this^^^ idea is that all that FI shit is actually a part of you that needs to be ‘killed’… as if you are defective in some intrinsic way… but it’s really just that you’ve been lied to and socially conditioned/programmed… Read more »
Cheers HABD! Yes, just accepting i’ve been lied to is enough, then getting on with my life. That’s what i was getting at regarding “killing it” inside me. But it does make one pretty pissed off, for sure. I just gotta keep remembering that all women are just the oldest teenager in the room, and treat their bullshit as such with as much Amused Mastery as i can muster… Anger is not something i cling to, but accepting the true nature of women is the most bitter pill of all to swallow, for sure… My dad used to say about… Read more »
@ The Silver FoX Brother, there is one thing that caught my eye in what you wrote there: “..i still fantasize about settling down with a cool woman who i can do good shit with. A team-mate, not a competitor (Blue Pill, i know).” This was my downfall. I got my rough awakening just a few months ago, and I remember looking at my “soul-mate’s” face is confusion and anger. What are you? Some being from a Ridley Scott movie? So intelligent, so confident, so strong. But she never wanted to be my equal partner. She wanted to be mine,… Read more »
Team Mate is Man Language for Surrogate Mother. His FIRST even.
No man, team mate is a woman you can have as a lover who also has your back who you can do good shit with. Could be a bit too far fetched for some of the more hard-core commentators here, but it does happen. Of course you have to stay RP, but I do have some friends in relationships where it actually works. Every relationship doesn’t have to be a constant fucking battle, for what is the point if it is? Sex every now and then? Not worth it… Certainly not looking for a surrogate mother. Careful what you project…… Read more »
@FoX
who also has your back
Umm careful at this junction. They can have your back, but it’s like gliding with no fuel. The higher your value, the longer it can last, but you run out of height and they’re out. Burden of performance.
Classic! Blonde flake girl has now pushed our 5pm meet out to 6:15pm because of work, but i really can’t be arsed hanging around and waiting for her. Feel i should hold my value and bail & she can set up our next meet, if it ever happens…
@fox
Tell her you can’t because you were meeting a friend at 7 for dinner. So tell her to meet you at X bar (near your place) at 9pm instead.
@ j Nice one, but i just don’t want to be hanging around here any longer than i have to. It’s winter, i’m driving and don’t want to sit in a bar alone pretending i’m with someone else. I live 2 hours from where I am, so this is my main problem. I’m here now, so now is when i could see her. I don’t even really feel like chewing the fat with her now, let alone trying to escalate things. Mid week, bad timing. Would rather just hit her at the next party. Less pressure, more fluid. She said… Read more »
@fox “don’t want to sit in a bar alone pretending i’m with someone else” lol you can spend those couple of hours day gaming at a mall, mate. “Would rather just hit her at the next party. Would rather just hit her at the next party. Less pressure, more fluid” it’s now or never. feel that hand on your shoulder. “She said 5pm yesterday, now says 6:15, and i just can’t be arsed waiting around…” ok so you’d rather go back to the ranch alone and jerk off without giving it a try because you can’t be “arsed waiting”. come… Read more »
@FoX You say that where you live there are no girls worth approaching (this aside for another comment from HABD), so this is your moment to go out and hit the field (and your sticking points). Come on now, you sexy beast, give the girls who are out tonight what they’re there for – the alpha experience. There are dozens of them hoping they’ll meet someone like you. Stick around. No waiting for a random chick though – just getting back in the game and having fun with strangers. She joins, cool. She doesn’t, even better – more girls to… Read more »
Yeah palma, she did give me a legit reason (working out of town) and i don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water, but also don’t want to lose any value in her eyes. I guess once we hang out for a bit i’ll soon know if it will be on or not. And i do think she’s sincere…
@ IRL I live in a remote place 2 hours from the town i’m currently visiting. I’m sticking around to meet up with my sexy date in a couple of hours. No sweat. I just gotta reset back to my old alpha self before i started second guessing myself and getting thrown by all of the advice here (much of which has been beneficial). Just been out of the game for 6 months, but been a pussy slayer for 20+ years before, and getting a little bamboozled by text game. Just gotta trust my instincts again as well as keeping… Read more »
@FoX
More of this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/02/01/3BC0EDAB00000578-0-image-a-56_1483320535178.jpg
Less of:
http://www.dreams.metroeve.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/dreams.metroeve_sniper-dreams-meaning.jpg
Have fun!
palma
You taking the piss?
Well, i’m back home in my remote crib now after a whirlwind couple of days. The dinner date went smoothly, though she was a bit nervous early on, which i like. Good conversation, free and easy. She’s a well travelled, seemingly uncomplicated country girl, around 30 i reckon. Former swimmer who almost made the Australian squad, so a nice strong figure, built to take a good pounding. She is sincere as far as i can tell, so a quick kiss goodnight and we went our separate ways agreeing to a more intimate weekend rendezvous next time i’m down. So i’ll… Read more »
Getting my mojo back again so feeling cocky like i used to when i pulled much younger women constantly, so just replied to Polish chick who was trying to Beta bait me, 5 days later: FoX: Don’t mind city driving, but sleeping on the couch…? Silly girl… (in Polish) Girl: (replied straight away): Yep, I’m definitely not giving up my bed! FoX: Who said anything about giving it up… No answer yet, but who cares. I’m gonna be no beta bitch boy to any bitch, not even in her head. Feels good to just lay it out there and blow… Read more »
@ palma Nah, i didn’t escalate as i felt she wants to get to know me better. But i did what i always used to do in such situations and told her straight up that i would like to see her again, and how did she feel about that? She said that she also wanted to see me again so i said good, i’m not into playing games and bullshit, so next time soon we’ll hang out over a weekend which she was cool with. I’ve had enough experience to judge if a chick wants to escalate or not, so… Read more »
F2F i’ve got pretty good instinct with girls (when sober which i was), so i’d rather lay it on the line than beat around the bush (no pun intended!). Always worked for me back in the day, gaming younger chicks. I’d just tell them that i wanted to fuck them, and more often than not it worked. They used to say no other guys were that forward and would reward me with their pert young bodies… Of course, there will be some backlash to that approach from some here, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat… Can’t… Read more »
Fox
Was the “blonde” the same one who canceled the dinner?
Yep. But she’s pretty sincere & turned up on time last night…
@Sentient
just like f*kin’ clockwork, eh?…lol
@The Silver FoX
Yep. But she’s pretty sincere & turned up on time last night…
props on staying in town to engage!… just play it out and report back… btw who paid for dinner?…
good luck!
Fox
Of course, there will be some backlash to that approach from some here, but there’s more than one way to skin a cat…
Do you know why there would be “backlash”?
Sure there is more than one way to skin a pussy… but that’s once you are talking about a skinned pussy.
so it’s not about that, it’s about how many pussy’s got away. Tight game brings consistency and choice.
Apocalypse Open been around for a looong time.
https://bristollair.com/2008/outer-game/pua-routines/shock-and-awe-the-apocalypse-opener/
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/i-tried-the-apocalypse-opener/
Yeah, AO, hey…? Back in my early/mid 40’s when i was slaying plenty of younger pussy, i had a tall, geeky but sexy 23 yo girl leave the group she was camping with at the local campground and come and stay at my place. Now, she did this off her own bat. I’d met her once before and we had mutual friends who brought her over. She just turned up with them with all her gear when the others went bush. Anyways, i play it cool, and being the older man, wasn’t gonna jump on her straight away, so she… Read more »
@ HABD
We split our bill. She’s making more than me, anyways. Next meet she’s cooking at her place, as originally planned…
Fox
Again it’s the difference between being the chooser and the chosen.
@Sentient @IRL
How do you guys remember this stuff?
I remember the apocalypse owner, horse girl, soul gazing, spells, david bowie, 2 puppies, who lies more, the cube, strawberry fields, 3s and 7’s, October Man Sequence, False Time Constraints…but both of you seem to have a great memory for the less popular stuff.
Yes Sentient, but as we all know, in the end it’s always the women who choose. You let them know you are into them and they choose, now matter how much you game them. They either want you or they don’t, and they aren’t all the same in the way they will go about that or feel comfortable with you or whatever. I have had enough real life experience to know that… Man, i feel like some of you guys here think that if you don’t bang them in an alley on the first meet then it will never happen.… Read more »
“Sure, i’ve been struggling a bit lately, but I’m in triple figures over the long run, if it means anything…;-)”
Obviously its not working out for you right now so….lol … if it means anything
Triple figures, mersonia. You…?
Fox
“Man, i feel like some of you guys here think that if you don’t bang them in an alley on the first meet then it will never happen.”
Hit it HABD…
But nah…
Look… you come here for advice. The advice is “get better Game”. You reject the advice because in days of yore you got laid enough to meet your needs using methods that no longer seem to be working. We explain why. You reject that.
OK then Fox. You do you.
Thus far you have a 4 hour round trip and a kiss.
Archie
It’s a fascinating hobby. Some of the old stuff is really interestinh. The approach to game was so different, much more honest.
@fox
Living In the Past lol
At a urban farmer’s market.
If you got a fxing dick and can cobble a coherant sentence, you’re in.
Mrs. is essentially atop me.
I’ll tap a girl’s shoes and say “nice classics.”
She’ll jump at the attention.
I’ll offer my raw asparagus by waving it in a pretty girls face.
That’ll make the whole group hide their laughs.
“You reject the advice because in days of yore you got laid enough to meet your needs using methods that no longer seem to be working.” stop the presses!!!! This just in. what worked for guys 10-20 years ago may be outdated and not work anymore. “Triple figures, mersonia.” doesn’t mean anything. The criteria is banging HB8+ <25yr old in 2018. that guy is up to date with what's going on today: Guys times are changing at a fast pace there are some things that DO NOT WORK ANYMORE with the millennials and some things that WORK…. I am making… Read more »
“If you got a fxing dick and can cobble a coherant sentence, you’re in.”
….you see what i mean
Wut verbals? Old is new… Lol.
The issue is more that guys get in a rut of doing whatever that one thing is for too long that is getting them laid until it doesn’t work then they flail around. Also PUA industry is invested in developing “new” things to sell (cycles)…
Understand the basics, the rules and adapt for whatever condition you face.
” doesn’t mean anything. The criteria is banging HB8+ <25yr old in 2018. that guy is up to date with what's going on today: Ohhhhhh shit. ( Luvs ya J ) Palma posted up recently about a Colombian chick. She doesn’t meet ” the criteria ” – in fact she’s a 37 year old mom if memory serves. Fox can speak for himself, but I’m not with some arbitrary criteria set up but some ” dudes ” for other ” dudes ” to follow. Ever. That. Shit. Is. Weak. As. Fuck ( even if a few guys 50+ fall for… Read more »
@The Silver FoX Man, i feel like some of you guys here think that if you don’t bang them in an alley on the first meet then it will never happen. ‘it’ might not…lol… https://therationalmale.com/2018/03/07/transactional-vs-validational-sex/ https://therationalmale.com/2011/08/25/the-desire-dynamic/ there are a couple of types of p in v… which one do YOU want?… all the game advice you have been getting is focused on getting validational sex (AF)… or ‘alpha seed’ per Rollo… quick question… was there any ACTUAL reason that you two didn’t bang your brains out after dinner?… or even during dinner…lol… you’re both adults, right? with no kids at… Read more »
@Blax nice pedestal picture,cool man. Trouble with the theory of carousel chicks taking stronger”game” is they are hopping around on the carousel. The epiphany girls are a little bit harder to game as now they are getting finicky with a sharp sense for BS ,they are getting serious and kid games don’t work.LOL
“Also PUA industry is invested in developing “new” things to sell (cycles)…”
It’s not about “buy muh e-book for all the “latest secrets” only for a low price of $3000
I’m talking about sharing your experience, comparing Field Reports with your wings (my wingman’s street game wing, currently has a flake rate of 85% post bang and he’s trying to figure out why) and reading what the advanced guys are doing. new methods.
Cost of staying up-to-date: $0
Boulder A few years back I was watching my cat toying with a mouse she’d caught. She kept fucking around and fucking around, throwing it against the wall…tossing it in the air…. … Until it ran under the tv credenza. She played herself right out of a righteous kill, a kill she was born to make. It’s not really about what the ” girls ” are doing. It’s not about what they think, who they’re fucking, what time their favorite show starts, none of that. They fall for Game in large numbers. Don’t fuck around throwing them against the wall….wait….that’s… Read more »
@blax
“Chicks I know/talk to don’t use Tinder because ” That shit’s lame AF “. Lol.”
“don’t listen to what they say watch what they do” – 101 bro lol
300.000.000 is a big number.
Where the fuck is Ellicott City???
Lmao.
” University ” huh?
Yes. Of course.
Blax, “always bring your A game” I currently have three,two redheads and one blond that all have the same name,just a coincidence i’m sure.
The list of types of women goes on and on ,more flavors than icecream. My point is after having read Preventive Medicine by Rollo Tomassi, the younger twenty yearolds are easy to score hell they pick themselves up and jump into bed.
If a guy doesn’t like women flaking he needs to up his game above flake level.
The trouble with this is sooner or later you may want her to go away.
“the down to fuck girls have gone to tinder and dating apps”
http://cdn.barstoolsports.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/28/MB1.jpg
those are the freebies. Skills is saying there are less and less of those in the clubs. They still go out tho…you don’t gotta do much to bang them cause they went out specifically looking for dick.
J
” It’s not really about what the ” girls ” are doing. It’s not about what they think, who they’re fucking, what time their favorite show starts, none of that. They fall for Game in large numbers ”
Don’t know who ” Skills ” is, but I been saying here for years about girls going out looking for dick. And yeah, they’re getting it. I see the before and after.
J
Are you saying that if a guy doesn’t have ” Tinder Game “, he’s fucked?
“If a guy doesn’t like women flaking he needs to up his game above flake level.”
He’s a pickup coach. They (HB9s – he’s shared his photos with the group) ghost him AFTER he bangs them not before (like most guys). There was another post eariler today about a guy facing the same problem:
https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/325116-retention-problems