Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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j
j
5 years ago

“average dudes” = gameless UMC betas

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

What’s up with Julien in the above? Is he experiencing a cerebrovascular accident?

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

This all has been discussed at length by TRM. Peterson has the masculinity guru market cornered. Anyone who shows up after will be considered a Johnny Come Lately. “Studies on anti-social behavior show that men often resort to outright violence while women prefer reputation destruction, innuendo and gossip. “Who controls women? … You described yourself as a liberal and I think that a liberal doesn’t think that society controls women or men. … What is an out-of-control woman? What is this creature? How would we know when we’ve met one?” Ms. McElvoy shot back during a series of exchanges. “I’m… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago
The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Ok, gentlemen, Sentient, Eh, scribb, palma & co, i think my text game has improved significantly with this new girl from last Sat night at a party i was playing at… FoX: So ambrosia girl (because she smelt so nice), i’ll be in your hood on Tues… G: Hehe. Ok well maybe we can catch up for dinner somewhere? (Drinks pics) Haha F: Are u a good cook…(grin face) I can bring (desert pics) G: (An hour later. I thought i might have blown it with the ‘Can u cook’, but no…) I can cook yes. But I realized the… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

I try to not become the curmudgeon complaining about ” teh kidz today ” and just let some stuff that I don’t get just pass by without comment or response. But Jesus on a Ducati, wtf is julien wearing in that pic above? Lmao, he’s like an amalgamation of every shitty fashion trend from the last 5 years. The hat, the beard, the designer logo t-shirt, the super gay skinny tight jeans, the crazy feminine looking footwear, all thoughtfully combined to project the resounding message – ” I’m a balding dick with no real personality of my own “. I… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Lemons are an opportunity to make lemonade. Sweet and sour. If life was only gumdrops, how boring it would be!

Blax, now think of the exciting possibilities that your goddaughter has to turn her life around!

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Asd

True. But it’s gonna be like a drug addict learning to live life without getting high.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Fox, Better. “Can you cook” was fine. Beware overanalysis. Like this: “chick who wants to please me…“ She hasn’t pleased you yet, you’re projecting, predicting. THAT right there fucks up your ZFG needed to seal the deal. Scrub that shit from your mind and allow her to come to you. Think of it from a pure RP framework. Women do nothing, NOTH-ING, to “please” you. It is all an attempt to satisfy one side of her BB/AF. She fucks you? It’s to get at your DNA so HER genes perpetuate, not yours. She feeds you? It’s to betaize you so… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“But Jesus on a Ducati, wtf is julien wearing in that pic above?”

I didn’t notice. That’s Julien Blanc? I thought it was an authentic weirdo with a psychopathic mindset on the cobblestones in front of Schönbrunn Palace in Vienna. (Looks the same as it ever was when I visited there in 1977.) Is that a cum stain on his shirt?

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Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox Way better. But… Look at her filter. For dinner out she was free… For dinner in she was… Busy. Odd that no? No. So she tries again for the next meal. Which is costing you extra in time and travel to boot. Next time when they come back with “oh hey I have plans” just hit her with logistics “until when?” Then “we can meet for a drink at xyz at x”. But avoid the whole dinner thing all together. Dinner is for betas or girl’s you banged already. Better to pitch meets later in the evening and for… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
5 years ago

““DO THESE EFFECTIVELY HIDE MY THUNDER?”” dr. tobias funke would be a TOP pua and better coach than anyone at rsd if he took red pill chief of psychiatry at mass gen? he can mindfuck the shit out of any girl he wants i would fuck lindsey bluth until she passed out from exhaustion i don’t think she cheated on tobias, even when she tried multiple times he is so delusional and self obsessed that it works as game “i think my husbands’ a fa…” (airhorn goes off) dread. and i would absolutely go out with her and insist she… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox

Edit – missed the line she is going to cook for you. That’s good. Assume it’s at her place. Should be easy.

Game on.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

I thought it was an authentic weirdo with a psychopathic mindset

just a douchebag

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Truth be told, I admire and respect Julien for being himself–a successful PUA. The guy had mad skills and along the way digested a lot of intellectual and spiritual and masculine self improvement stuff as evidenced by some of his videos on Julien Himself. The good psychopathic part of him (traits) while not being sociopathic (unless he is, was or will be is admirable and shares traits with spiritual masters. A good thing. So there is nothing wrong with Julien being Julien. For himself. But there is Julien representing to followers or disciples in PUA that seems kinda weird when… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
5 years ago

“The Softboy is the most sinister breed of fuckboy because he thinks he’s nice. Eventually, when woman after woman exposes him for the snake he is, he’ll retreat into the shadows of Reddit to learn all about Red Pill theory and scold himself for being such a beta all these years. He’ll blow up your phone with screenshots of the new guy you’re dating, accompanied by texts that say things like, “So this is him, huh? LOL thought you were better than that. Guess not. You’re like the rest.” How dare you spurn him, a Nice Guy™ with his vinyl… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

SJF, I was only referring to the pic’s representation. I agree that Julien has accomplished a lot of self-improvement.

j
j
5 years ago

“amanda ross, hb5”

accurate.

j
j
5 years ago

“I mean, look at those jeans cutting off the circulation to his ankles.”

lol those are skinny-fit jogger pants. which are actually pretty comfortable. Julien definitely takes his style inspiration from HYPEBEAST:

https://www.instagram.com/hypebeaststyle

I honestly don’t hate the outfit. It’d probably receive high praise over at r/streetwear. I’d imagine the older guys here, favor LeBron’s left outfit to the right lol:

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Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Nah, bron looking crazy with the highwater tight assed suit thing. There’s just something odd looking to me about pants falling 6 inches above the tops of the shoes.

I’d rock the look on the right minus the skinny bottom thing.

Admittedly I’m more traditional concerning suits. I like well fitting tailored suits that accentuate. I don’t see the point in a suit that looks ill fitting. Looks uncomfortable.

I haven’t worn a denim jacket since the 80’s, but I’m not opposed to them. I like leather better, or just a hoodie of some sort.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Guys have to be careful. Men’s current fashion is getting more androgynous and even feminine. What’s with juliens collar?😀 My daughter wears shirts like that.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

#guccigang😂😂😂

jejckel
jejckel
5 years ago

You kids with your skinny jeans and your hippity hoppity! lol
Juliens fashion is pretty on point in that pic, tbh
Obviously not recommended for the dudes on this blog due to age, but he rocks it fairly well.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

So I take it you have a few paid of checkerboard slip ons then…….

marelius
marelius
5 years ago

Here’s a coupla snaps of OGs rockin suits they way they were meant to be worn…

marelius
marelius
5 years ago
Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ jej

Ummm…. I was here for the creation of hippity hoppity.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

C’mon Marelius, you can do it!!!!!!

marelius
marelius
5 years ago

Can’t seem to get a jpg to post…argh! Tips for the noob?

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Blax is correct. Men’s fashion by and large is a product of gay men and women opinions what we should be wearing. If J thinks skinny fit is where it’s at, de gustibus non est disputandum. Though LeBron appears masculine in spite of what clownsuit he’s being paid to wear. J’s got a queer eye for the straight guy thinking that’s fashion. But he has a law-of-power point. Dress contemporary to be accepted…but there’s more to it, as alwsys: Law 34: Be royal in your own fashion: act like a king to be treated like one The way you carry… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

J crews opinion of boy’s wear:

https://goo.gl/images/WkFM9T

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Marelius,

Post the link. Good enough and the load doesn’t slow down.

j
j
5 years ago

“If J thinks skinny fit is where it’s at”

nah. skinny-fit is for skinny dudes or guys who skip leg day only:

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Whatever fits your specific body shape well (slim-fit for me) is where it’s at 😉

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IRL
IRL
5 years ago

@fleezer “I go somewhere for a day (or night) or even a shorter period.” sounds fun but also i could see how that might put a guy in the “on the lot” mode. your new locale is the lot, and then because of the compressed timeframe, every hb a potential sale. does this effect subcomms because you know deep down you got to get her to sign right now, tonight? short con vs long con maybe. That’s a fair point and a good perspective to keep. I’d say going for the kill in a short window is important at the… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Skinny leg pants vs. regular vs. big…it’s all cyclical. Look at old movies and older pictures. Men in the 40’s and 50’s wearing pants with pleats that look like a kilt or a skirt. Men 100 years ago wearing stovepipe-leg pants. Men in the 20’s wearing bell-bottoms with big flaring cuffs that are tight on the thighs. Any form of pants that anyone can think of has probably already been worn, if you go back a few centuries. So what’s the goal? I choose my pants for various reasons, some of them practical…and I don’t care about other people’s requirements… Read more »

j
j
5 years ago

@Anonymous Reader

“Men in the 20’s wearing bell-bottoms with big flaring cuffs that are tight on the thighs.”

Aight. Put your money where your mouth is and field test it. Hit the club this weekend dressed like this and let us know how it goes:

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“So what’s the goal?”

0:51

https://youtu.be/WmzopMCMCn4?t=51s

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

@ Sentient I’m assuming dinner is at her place if she’s cooking, ’cause i’m just staying at a mate’s at this stage. I live 2 hours away. Can’t just hit her for a random late night drink. Interesting that she hit me with the other questions, “How long are you down for? Where do you stay when down?” then concluding with “Dinner Wednesday night instead and yes I can cook that night?” but finishing with a ?. I’ve only met her once before and flirted with her married friend (didn’t know she was married at the time) whilst I handed… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox

I’d just roll in for dinner. Keep things to logistics. And do your Fox thing in person… Sounds like a bang and a meal.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

IRL

“Apparently every now and then we need to be told what is possible and reminded that we can allow ourselves to go for what we want.”

Exemplars are important. It’s one thing to look at a light switch and another to see a guy switch it. Fuck!!!

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Where do you stay when down?

Here is where you want to be vague…”depends”…if she presses (and she probably will because she’s trying to figure out her competition)…be even more vague…”sometimes with a friend”…if she continues to press, tease her about being nosey. “A guy needs a little mystery.” She’ll probably grin.

j
j
5 years ago

“She’ll probably grin.”

smh. You know what she’s actually gonna respond to that text? “uhhh ok?” better: X part in town with a friend (could be male or female – there’s your vague shit). maybe she’d rather go back to his place instead of inviting him to her place for some reason.

j
j
5 years ago

@Fox Damn. Setting up plans one week ahead? hmm. I’d have just teased her over text a little bit to keep the tension alive. Then I’d send that “i’ll be in your hood on Tues…+ what’s your schedule look like” (to avoid that soft rejection: “I realized the Tues night I already committed to going out to dinner with work. I’m sorry.”) till Sunday evening. One week in advance, gives her a lot of time to change her mind/make new plans with friends. Waiting till Sunday evening (always next girls in the evening), after the weekend ends, (where she probably… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

“bang and a meal.”

In that order.

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

@ j

I hear you. I tried my best to hold off longer, but boredom got the better of me. She’s been quite responsive so i don’t think she’ll flake. She knows i’m not very available to this stage, so she appears to be jumping thru my hoops. If she flakes, well, she flakes…

Should i hit for coffee tomoz on my way thru, or just hold off until dinner on Wednesday night…?

j
j
5 years ago

@Fox

“Should i hit for coffee tomoz on my way thru, or just hold off until dinner on Wednesday night…?”

Nah its too late. (you don’t want to appear to available/indecisive) Follow Sentient’s advice. Like you said if she flakes she flakes, no big deal. My advice was just for next time. You want to bang as soon as possible (Ideally the same night) to solidify AF status. The longer you wait (she will continue to text you though, cause bitches loves attention) -> the less likely it’s gonna happen.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

@j

Remember that girl who “liked” a joke I made in the meetup chat? I decided against messaging her. She didn’t invest enough to warrant my attention.

scars
scars
5 years ago

Friday’s here! I’m looking forward to your lay report tomorrow, @J!! I’m off out myself now to try my luck. Later!

j
j
5 years ago

FR I could tell the 7 I was talking to wanted to kiss me. How? not by kiss denial, but every time I leaned in to make a point, she didn’t tilt her back back and had that “I wanna makeout with this guy” look. She was there with 4 girlfriends. All celebrating one of chick’s 23rd birthday. The birthday girl was actually pretty hot, but drunk. The 7, asked me if I had guys for their friends. I didn’t. I found out a little later she was from out of my city, so then I gave her my “I’m… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

j, what would you have done differently if you had it to do over?

j
j
5 years ago

@theasdgamer Let’s see. The 7, I knew I had her. I bailed because 1) Didn’t want to take the train to her city 2) it was still pretty early (1 AM) and 3) wanted to approach hotter girls. The taxi girl, that was more a Hail Mary move. I’ve successfully jumped in a cab with girls that were already hailing a cab before, so I know it could be done. Now what I could have done differently with the Italian (and I’m glad you brought this up cause I just thought about this)…when she wanted to smoke a cigarette, I… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Was back to good gaming form at a bar with lotsa women from the show that my track opened. All mostly married, friends of the show’s creator. Had a ball, machine gun repartee with one chick i fancied at the bar. Just went bang into gaming her, professional looking type so i asked her what she did & before she could answer i said, no let me guess. Hairdresser? i say with a straight face. Just totes taking the piss. She was taken aback briefly, the cogs of her hamster spinning, before regaining her composure, but the gig was up.… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Just had the chick i was going to have dinner with this week flake ’cause she’s “too busy” this week…I think she’s sincere, but what to do? My gut feeling is just to ignore her. I’m slowly sinking to rock bottom in my world of scarcity at the moment. I’m trying to stay afloat but need to kick a goal pretty soon. Dark thoughts abound…

j
j
5 years ago

@Fox “What i should have done was dismissed him for just being a dj and playing other people’s music, which any talentless fool can do” No this would instinctively make her want to defend her husband. Kind of like when the nice guy tries to bad mouth the girl’s jerkboy boyfriend (“he’s such a jerk. He doesn’t even have a job. why are you with that loser?”) will make her want to defend him “Hey he’s not always a jerk. He’s really sweet sometimes too. Like last week he…” Better, is set a frame where you are actually praise him,… Read more »

IAS
IAS
5 years ago

@SilverFox: just a quick tip about husbands boyfriends, if you diss them, the majority of times the girl will automatically defend them and that is not what you want. So-called boyfriend destroyer are you compliment them such that the girl attacks them or sees them in a negative light.

For example, you can say “He sounds so nice, he must like you so much” will tend to make the girl think of him as beta and needy. Her tendency then will be for her to “attack” him for you.

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Good advice on the husband b/f, gentlemen. I don’t want to diss other people to build myself up anyways. It’s not how i roll, nor want to. So the way ‘j’ presented how i should approach this scenario next time is great, ’cause dj’s are way over-rated but girls don’t know this ’cause they just want to have fun, and dj’s playing the same old commercially acceptable music and having a heaving dance floor is all the validation they require. It’s men who produce a majority of the best music anywayz, and it is men who also seek it out.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox Ignore dinner girl. Do not text her. Fight the urge. On the rest… Capital G game is the major leagues. It’s professional. It’s about being paid for the gig what you are worth. It’s not some backyard jam session or bringer show. Capital G game is ruthless. You need to get ruthless… Now after you have established a track record and are satisfied, sure go ahead and jam. But now it’s about Doing The Hard Work and getting paid. Why? Because now all the good time Charleying while going home with your dick in your hand is just a… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Sentient, glad you checked in, man. I’m at a fucking loss now as to how to move forward. I’m putting myself out there but to no avail. Everything in my life now seems to be conspiring against me. I getting very over it…

What’s Capital G game? Don’t know how i’m buffering? Don’t worry, i’m not going to text the bitch. It’s like they’re all just playing with me now. I was a stud now i’m just a dud. It’s fucking boring, and much worse…

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Capital G game is Game… Learning what game as practiced really is, the actual methodologies, reasons, switches, sequencing etc. Start with Mystery Method. Your buffering when you are going out to get laid and you don’t get laid because something else – the buffer – gets in the way. So drinking, getting high, “just playing”, bad logistics you had control over etc. Are all forms. There are many forms. You “were a stud”… You were / are a natural. But what happens what what you used to do doesn’t work any more? Figure out an alternative . You can do… Read more »

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
5 years ago

The saga continues … Overall had a great weekend and have little to complain about when it comes to spending time with my girlfriend. I completely forgot about my cognitive dissonance Saturday as we had a great day together. That’s the thing – I’ve ended most relationships for cause but she’s been wonderful since the jump that’s why this has been so difficult. Fast forward to Sunday after spending the weekend together and I’m heading to her place as she’s cooking dinner for us. I had her stuff in the passenger seat with the plan to break up with her… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Catchers

It seems like breaking up with her is the quick fix – but to what end?

YOUR Happiness…

What are the opportunities that I’m not considering?

See above…

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

If she broke up with you Catchers, you would be relieved…

That says it all.

This about her age and babies, not monogamy.

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

@ Sentient Yeah, just read MM. Plenty of good ideas. Lot’s of stuff an experienced guy like me has lived through already. I’m not in the game of picking chicks up in bars and bouncing them around to various venues etc… Whatever is going on, i am in some sort of a deep funk where i just can’t close, just can’t hit a break, where no part of my life seems to be working. Y’all predicted the 3 recent flakes that just happened, but it’s deeper than that. I’m in some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy at the moment, and i’m… Read more »

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
5 years ago

@The Silver FoX

I hear ya, brother. We all get down on ourselves at times. The only person that can change this is you so what are you doing to change?

Do yourself a favor and find some social event in your town or a way to be around other people and just relax a bit. Call up your best friend and bullshit w/ them for a while – do SOMETHING!

Good luck.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox

Come on now… enough of this.

Whatever is going on, i am in some sort of a deep funk where i just can’t close

Yeah you can’t close because you are not playing the Game… You are mucking around, based on your old methods, and it’s not working…

“You wanna work here? Close!!!”

So no coffee for you Fox…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVM1V1ntFks

“I’m not in the game of picking chicks up ”

Indeed…

mersonia
5 years ago

@fox

no one cares

Testi
Testi
5 years ago

I see this thing Fox is doing in a lot of girls in relationships. Wallowing in their state of unfinished education, broke-ass finances, ‘not where I’m supposed to be in life’ , not seeing a way out, no matter how many solutions the boyfriend offers up. There’s this one particular commenter here who had the same tendencies.

I agree with Sentient. Less buffering, less wallowing, more experiences, should ultimately lead to more closing. Closing begets closing, no?

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

A Always B Be C Closing Always Be Closing. Failed last night on a sweet 33 8… was awesome. Just not enough good game on my part. Toned down the sexualization and got hit with the “your wife is home” thing. Thing is, by understanding game, I knew I was running subpar game. I had to compress the bounce because of a timing constraint, i had to go. So I knew where things stood and knew this was going “all in” too early by the diagnostic feedback i was getting (some kino back from her, some bubble… but not enough)… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

I will be having OJ this morning… 😉

IAS
IAS
5 years ago

I don’t get the Orange Juice reference…

IRL
IRL
5 years ago

@Catchers Overall had a great weekend and have little to complain about when it comes to spending time with my girlfriend. I completely forgot about my cognitive dissonance Saturday as we had a great day together. I had spent part of the day at the local park in part to remind myself what’s out there girl-wise Did you even talk to any girl? Think about why you’re not pursuing other options. Because the answer will tell you why you defaulted to this blue pill manstering: got lost in a self-defeating mindset based upon how good our relationship has been, how… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

IAS

Watch the video right above… Coffee’s for closers.

[Btw One of the most important videos you will ever see in your life, cuts across a number of areas. Cleanly]

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

How to Exploit the Path of Least Resistance for Personal Gain
Western Mastery June 3, 2018

http://www.westernmastery.com/2018/06/03/path-least-resistance-personal-gain/

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Field Report Went to a gaming meetup in an upscale beer joint. One girl, nine guys. I’m chatting, joking, having fun with people. Not too serious about the games and I still won two out of three, lol. Finally, I ended up sitting next to the girl. We’ve been together at an Improv meetup but I didn’t say hi to her. Never formally exchanged names. I was cool and was interacting with everyone else at the meetup, joking, having fun, making people laugh, they were joking back, good times. Never opened the girl. I’m not sure why, but that felt… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

…was wearing a shift, not a shirt…feminine clothing

scars
scars
5 years ago

@J – You ever heard Gunwitches newer stuff like ‘MMA Seduction’? I know that you’re a fan of Bacchus, and he seems to always recommend Gunwitch. I started listening to it last night. Weird how I can relate so much to some of the stuff he says in regards to different methods and how he feels about various stuff and his own experiences. So many thoughts of his mirror my own based on my own experiences with trying various things out. Won’t go into it here, but it’s interesting. PS – After last weeks lay I got a few makeouts… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Scars “Like, the IOI’s were so strong that there was no awkwardness/fear of rejection when it came to physically escalating.” Right. This is how game is supposed to work. In sequence. Why when you are getting IODs you don’t escalate you DHV for IOIs. “At a certain point in the night when it gets late, girls (even hot ones) literally open you, compliment you and then ask you if you want to come home with them. ” Truth. The caveat is you are the chosen, not the chooser. Which may not be bad on the given night, but it’s not… Read more »

j
j
5 years ago

@Scars

yeah I’ve mentioned SMMA and the three keys a couple time here. Bacchus, Teevster, K (formerly Kant) and other advanced posters highly recommend it.

Gunwitch recently sat down with the GirlsChase podcast to talk about the basics of his system:

https://soundcloud.com/girlschase/23-gunwitch-the-basics-of-seduction-mma

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Well, against the advice of Sentient & j (once again), i did send an Agree & Amplify text back 2 days later to the cute blonde flaker (who i do like) who was very apologetic for flaking, but flaked nonetheless… FoX: No worries, busy girl. You can come for a drive to my place instead & i’ll dry those tears…(laughing teary face emoticon) ’cause she sent me a teary sad face emoticon at the end of her flake… She was non-commital 5.5 hours later with “Sorry just got a bit going on at the moment. We’ll catch up at some… Read more »

j
j
5 years ago

@fox I’d wait till Tuesday afternoon to text her. Radio silence till then as punishment for flaking. I’d text: “I’ve got some good news and bad news….Which do you want to hear first?” – or with less words “good news and bad news” – chick crack to get curious The good news is I’ll be in your town tonight. So I’m free to get a drink with you after my show. The bad news is I’m only here for one night. (scarcity principle) Leaving in the morning. (cancel your plans girl or you won’t get to see me aka The… Read more »

WestIndianArchie
5 years ago

The Handmaid’s tale got good this week.

Wife got outta pocket, tried to pull an Eleanor Roosevelt, and the husband did what was culturally, morally, and legally appropriate for the world they constructed.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox

What the fuck about “Do not text her” do you not understand?

This shit isn’t going to work if you keep ignoring what we say to do.

Do you see how you fucked this up?

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Don’t fucking text her now until she sends you another text.

Don’t respond until AFTER her next text.

AFTER her next text, not before just shoot her Monday ” Been busy. Will be in town tomorrow but not a lot of time. Meet me at XX at 9 for a drink”

Where XX is a bar close to where you can isolate and bang her.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

And read the section on text game in the YaReally Archive. It will explain everything the guys here are saying.

I know there’s a gulf between having the knowledge and implementing action (boy, do I know), but having the knowledge is still useful and gives you a baseline to work from and self-diagnose.

having a bad day
having a bad day
5 years ago

@The Silver FoX can you feel the FI pushing on you to get you to text her?… after all, SHE couldn’t be like all those other girls, right?…lol… SHE couldn’t possibly respond to THAT by slotting you into orbiter status… right?… can you feel the scarcity?… like if you don’t respond, she will forget who you are?… did you feel relief when that 23 hour text pinged?… like YOU still ‘had a shot’?… (as opposed to HER having lost a shot with you?… and you moved on to other options…) deconstruct your whole exchange (content and timelines) and you will… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

Also, read the stuff in the YaReally Archive and/or here in the comments where YaReally was telling Scribblerg how to pick himself up off the floor and pull younger chicks as an “older guy” – in particular, how to do it as an older guy who used to be really really good with chicks but then somehow lost his way

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

having a bad day @Silver Fox if you really want to get better at this shit, you can start to catalog her rolodex by writing down what you think the purpose of each of her texts are…lol… or post them here for a translation… HABD’s advice applies to more than just text game. It applies to voice calls, emails and in-person interaction. Because a girl’s Rolodex [1] isn’t infinite, she doesn’t have an unlimited number of buttons to push / stimulus to activate / tricks to play with you. Realizing this is important in destroying that whole “wimmenz are SO… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

“like if you don’t respond, she will forget who you are?” They don’t forget. They may act like it, but they don’t forget. Two yeard ago gamed a local bartendress… Good vibe going. Didn’t close cause local and she was about to get married. Haven’t been back there since. Went a few nights ago and she was there, little heavier now. I just got a beer from her and left, just thinking “oh that’s that girl”. She didn’t say anything to me. Last night went to another bar and she is at the bar eating. Sit next to her and… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

Sentient is this the same WK buddy? I mean, lots of your FRs talk about being with a WK buddy – is it always the same guy and what does he think of your exploits? Has it changed his thinking and behaviour?

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Culum

Yeah same. He thinks I’m obnoxious. He also cant pick up on the “so how you doin…?” vibe. He wont change. He’s turning hard towards Old Man…

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
5 years ago

@SilverFox HABD’s advice is gold, especially this: “like if you don’t respond, she will forget who you are?… did you feel relief when that 23 hour text pinged?… like YOU still ‘had a shot’?… (as opposed to HER having lost a shot with you?… and you moved on to other options…)” I did some online dating a few years back, and got completely played, with ghosting, ignored texts and emails, flaking, etc. The more the women played games, the harder I tried, until I was on tenterhooks waiting for texts/emails, and absolutely exhausted. You probably not as bad a state… Read more »

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
5 years ago

@SilverFox

One more thing, that woman is 2 hours drive from you, in other words a 4 hour round trip, she must know this, yet she texts you “You must pass through here pretty regularly”.

She’s taking the piss, and my first thought would be “You goofy cow, it’s 4 f**king hours”.

This wouldn’t win her over, but for mickey taking like that I would be tempted to text back “I’m 2 hours away, and if you suck my cock when you get here, I might consider giving you some petrol money”.

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

You gentlemen fucking rock! Gold advice, straight up. I love this shit and right now need it as much as oxygen, almost… “can you feel the FI pushing on you to get you to text her?… after all, SHE couldn’t be like all those other girls, right?…lol… SHE couldn’t possibly respond to THAT by slotting you into orbiter status… right?… can you feel the scarcity?… like if you don’t respond, she will forget who you are?… did you feel relief when that 23 hour text pinged?… like YOU still ‘had a shot’?… (as opposed to HER having lost a shot… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox “where i hit her for home cooked meal on Tues, as she had originally promised. ” No no no. Get this. NOTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE MATTERS… There is no contract with her for a meal. You are starting again from zero. Whatever you text from here has to get her attention all over… This is the Game. The good news for you is now you get to reset the frame. She complies with your plan or she doesn’t come. Reread HABDs advice over and over cause you are still missing things. For all you know she’s had 10 cocks… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Good stuff Sentient. I’m paying proper attention now…

j
j
5 years ago

@fox

“where i hit her for home cooked meal on Tues, as she had originally promised.”

Also I wouldn’t mention this (home cooked dinner) because it will remind her that she flaked on you before. Hence the “get drinks at a bar near your place” to reset the frame

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

Gotcha j! Cool, man. Fuck, i feel like a beginner which is strange with my notch count. But times have obviously changed and it’s time for an old FoX to learn some new tricks. I’ve obviously just charmed myself into all their pants over the years. Never knew one had to be so strategic. And AWALT, for sure! It’s so easy to pedastalize one with, “But she’s different…” No she fucking ain’t! No wonder it’s so hard for blokes to unplug who’ve had little success with women. I have to totally recalibrate myself, but i will & already feel stronger… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

@ Anonymous

“…she doesn’t have an unlimited number of buttons to push / stimulus to activate / tricks to play with you. Realizing this is important in destroying that whole “wimmenz are SO mysTERious” nonsense that gets programmed into a lot of men. They’re not that smart and they are not that mysterious…”

More excellent advice. I hope you’re compiling this Rollo (I certainly am)… This is killer advice for all men struggling to swallow the RP…

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