For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
scars Had planned to maybe take a break from game, Did you plan to take a break from breathing, too? The only way to rewires neural pathways, to carve different thought-action channels into your brain, is to rewire. To think AND act, act AND think. Don’t think “game”, think “self-amusement”. Then do it. Don’t think “game”, think “flirtation”. Then go and do it, chat up the 40-something store clerk ringing up your groceries in a friendly male fashion and don’t let the convo die no matter what, rather decide to end it at a logical point with a decisively pleasant… Read more »
Marelius, I have no quarrel with you either. Your nephew has hope, if he will put in the work. Social cues and body language can be learned, with practice. I’m not great at them unless I’m really focused on them, but I do Ok, when I focus. Part of the issue with me is that Mrs. Gamer’s signals are quite subtle. On one hand, that makes me more perceptive of her signals and signals like hers. On the other hand, when girls give more overt signals, I might miss them. The intuition I had was new to me, which was… Read more »
You ever mentor anyone IRL? I’d like to hear those stories. You’ve got much more to offer than petty battles with J. As a matter of fact, a former buddy asked me to accompany him on a date. My former buddy is a psychopath and women generally are much taken by him. (He was fucking a whore for free and he got annoyed when he found out she was a whore and threatened her and wouldn’t repay a loan.) And he claims that he has fucked over 50 women and I believe him. He thought that his date was unusual… Read more »
@ ASD
That story was curious and more grop-y than I expected. Thank you.
I prefer Hollywood endings. More to the mentoring point, have you mentored a buddy from hardship to personal victory? With your experience, you’ll have no problem writing that. That’d be a compelling addition to your personal memior too.
Everyone loves a comeback story.
@EI The girl was a little strange–almost confrontational and very competitive. The touching was so that I would be amused by messing with her. Anyway, my former buddy had been dumped by his gf a few months before I met him and he was still heartbroken over it. I nursed him through his crying spells, to some degree–many hours–and he eventually started getting laid again. So it was a comeback story, of sorts, tho I really only mentored him with one girl. However, he really was a psychopath and it was beyond me and my skill to “fix” him. He… Read more »
ASD, no kids, I assume, since you never mention any. Have you had any medium or long term interactions with youth programs, like scouts, church confirmation mentoring, Big Brothers, etc? Inter-generational mentoring like that would really help you and your mentee grow, I think.
Marelius, I have two daughters, but no sons. I try to help guys at the bar occasionally, but very generally, saying stuff like “Ask a lot of women to dance; shotgun, not rifle; girls ping off of each other.”
Oh, I also have tried to help my son in law, but my daughter will get in the way if she hears about it.
@Culum
Could be fake of course, but YaReally didn’t think so
@theasdgamer
Btw, YaReally pretty much always confirmed my read of signals in my FRs. So your blanket putdown of my ability to read signals isn’t believable.
@j What I most liked about the clip is actually getting her up the apartment. Funny you should say that. About a year ago, I gave myself a challenge: right, I’m insta-dating and pulling to my apartment as soon as I can, go! It’s around noon, a nice sunny day. I meet this blonde girl and we get ice creams within 5-10 minutes. We sit at a table and I tease her, there’s some banter and kino (touching her thigh on high points, noticing her earring and caressing her earlobe and hair, etc.). After about 15-20 minutes, I suggest we… Read more »
IRL, did you get that pic from your little sister?
@IRL “And I like having girls submitting to me, chasing or at least giving me strong IOIs first. Screw you LMR! I’m not in a rush.” Agreed. After a while I realized I faced this problem over and over again was because of my ego…trying to rush the process. (wanting to bang every chick under 20 mins flat. zero comfort. extracting after I sense she’s horny enough). It’s not super consistent. Part of the learning process. Aiming for under 45 mins now 😉 @scars great LR from Teevster I just read. Check it out: https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/hall-of-fame/9848-nightgame-threesome-with-2-swedish-girls ok time to bang my… Read more »
Oh boy… If touch is not only socially acceptable (like a formal or polite handshake) but also required as in a dance, it’s not “kino”…
Please… just stop.
You don’t get it…lead/follow dance was designed to provide kino, getting in girls’ grills, the opportunity to DHV by leading well, a liminal space, etc. Girls’ feel the kino just as if it weren’t “required”.
You need to think a bit more.
@Sentient and ASD:
Whether we call it Kino or not I think all of us here understand that touching, even when required (as by dance or other partnered activities between a man and a woman, even martial arts) can still act as DHV and be escalation, used to subcommunicate interest etc.
I think it is also obvious than in such instances it is not as big a DHV / escalation / IOI as if it was NOT “socially acceptable” / “required”.
“I think it is also obvious”
You’d think… but apparently not.
I think it is also obvious than in such instances it is not as big a DHV / escalation / IOI as if it was NOT “socially acceptable” / “required”. You’d think, but women would feel. It seems less risky…to dogs…it still feels risky…to cats…yet the dance floor is also a liminal space, so women think it’s less risky…putting the woman’s cortex offline so it can’t cockblock, but still stimulating the woman’s midbrain. You’d think that women designed dancing to give them access to alphas or something. lol NB It’s important to distinguish between lead/follow dancing and freestyle. This only… Read more »
You need to think a bit more. Yeah, @Sentient, you need to. It’s the same as in marriage so why are you making it difficult? Jesus, just bang that backyard meeting group married woman or a strange chick at the airport already. Lol BTW, can you drive a car? It’s the same with a plane. Also at high speeds or with crosswind when landing. By default, you should also have a good grip on racing, monster trucks and IDK maybe even underwater basket waving. It’s all Game, man. Think! Lol, ok. Why on Earth guys who were slaying pussy in… Read more »
The vertical bop (dancing) will NEVER feel the same to a woman, no matter how hard and long you protest that, ASD, unless, of course you, are doing it wrong. Even if the dancing kino / sex kino feelz are aligned and parallel to each other in the limbic system, at some point the dancing escalation stops, along with the feelz. Not so with sex.
The vertical bop (dancing) will NEVER feel the same to a woman, as the horizontal bob, no matter how hard and long you protest that
Bop. I meant Bop. Lucky guy, that bob…
socially acceptable dancing
= no kino
socially unacceptable dancing
= kino
lol @ j…just look at the pic Mareliius, you bring up some good points…there are lots of escalation moves you can do during dancing…hip block…lead at the bottom of the back/top of the butt, shoulder block, tummy block. Nobody says that you have to stay on the dance floor. But it’s a very good place to start…(cue “Do Re Mi”). Then move to isolate. Very common in the old movies and very socially acceptable. And it moves you towards your goal. Dancing Bachata tight is very socially acceptable. Girls can move to dance close or tight (happens to me a… Read more »
awww, come on. They’re touching, hes in her grill, their heart rates are climbing. Clearly this means the guy really knows what that woman is thinking about. Old Guy: (to himself) This is going really well. I haven’t stepped on her toes, and she smells really good. Old Lady: (to herself) I hope everyone likes the lasagna I made. Hmmm, did I turn the oven off? Old Guy: Oh no, her brow is furrowed. Am dancing OK? Maybe she doesn’t like me touching her hand that much. Old Lady: Oh yeah, I set a timer, so it will turn itself… Read more »
I believe men should always avoid seeking comfort zones. At least not some form of long term, stable comfort across the majority of their lives. Too much comfort makes you stop growing and building.
That’s what vacations are for.
Struggle is nothing but a temporary challenge, not a way of life.
Marelius, how old are you? I mean, if mid-20s are old ladies to you…
See – thats what I mean – we all know your dance scene looks like the first picture, but you keep imagining its more like the second one.
Rollo
I want a post on “A pure masculine imperative ” , how feminine imperative started to dominate masculine imperative with some spices of our evolutionary past… This would be a very enjoyable reading as well.
Senior readers should motivate Rollo as well…
Marelius, so much of what you know just ain’t so.
Re: bad dancers. It don’t matter when you’re full tilt elsewhere. In a recent interview, Jane Birkin described her first date with Serge Gainsbourg. They met on the set of the 1969 movie Slogan; he was 40, she was 22. “He barely spoke to me and I thought him terribly arrogant and unkind,” she recalled, “so the director suggested we go out for the night. We went to dinner, then to a club, where I dragged him onto the dancefloor. He trod all over my toes, and I realised that under the rashness and the mauve shirt, he was devastatingly… Read more »
I’m not aware of too many things
I know what I know if you know what I mean
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are – or what?
As per the advice here (which i knew deep down anyways), late last night (after a few drinks) i texted her & told her she was a narcissist and pathetic (probs a bit bitchy on my behalf & i know Sentient said to totally ghost her). Anyways, she responded: ‘I sense that you are angry Fox, am i right?’ which i ignored. This afternoon she texted: Fox, i just realised from your texts last night that i haven’t thanked you for all your support and encouragement on Tuesday. I really appreciate it and i feel bad for not saying something… Read more »
I would have ignored except the last line: ‘How can i make amends. X’ gives me an opening that i don’t want to fuck up, as pathetic as that sounds…
@FoX As per the advice here Huh? No one advised to send anything angry/bitter. We just told you to cut the Beta crap. i texted her & told her she was a narcissist and pathetic Hamster alert system activated: Average Frustrated Chump status confirmed. Detected frustration level: high. Known risks: occasional emotional outbursts due to mismanaged expectations, monitor further. Known rewards: access to medium to high social potential (music industry = higher concentration of alphas and wealthy betas). Next action: soften and keep in a safe orbit, try to show dog logic when target needs it. I would have ignored… Read more »
Fox
WTF? smh
Post the entire thread again.
@ IRL
“Huh? No one advised to send anything angry/bitter. We just told you to cut the Beta crap…”
Yeah, i know. It came out wrong. Thanks for taking the time to respond…
Post the whole thread from your text to her on.
your angry text that is.
Either ignore for some time and start again as nothing ever happened (don’t even acknowledge this episode; Sentient’s approach to text exchange still applies), or ignore completely and move on.
Agree with everything IRL said upthread… and this quote.
But we are where we are now, and HABD’s advice is try and turn everything around…. like that B52 in self inflicted death spiral.
Newsflash – there were no survivors. Probability of nailing the landing extremely low.
But there are a couple of angles to try here. Post the whole exchange and let’s see.
@ Sentient Well, i’m just about over this now, but here’s the text disaster since the long one i posted a few days ago which you’ve already commented on… Tuesday FoX: Morning P. How u feeling today… (Urrrgh) P: Better today, thx for asking FoX. X FoX: Anything exciting planned… (Boring) P: I have an app, and yoga today FoX: Glad you’re feeling better… (So Beta, i know) P: Thankyou x Late last night drunk after all the feedback which has confused me more than anything… FoX: So u still sulking… P: Haha no, I’m ok now.. thanks for asking… Read more »
i feel like i have nothing to lose
It’s your feelings that are fucking you over. Fix yourself first and overcome your feelings. Proceed as if you are Commander Data or Spock. As a novice, you have to be coldly analytical; once you have mastered your emotions, you can learn to ride them. Like breaking a horse.
IRL and Sentient have great advice. Do exactly what they say without letting your feelings fuck things up.
“It’s your feelings that are fucking you over…”
asd, my feelings have been fucking me over for most of my life…I find it very difficult to be coldly analytical. Thing is, i’m no novice. I was a pussy slayer back in the day. It’s just not fun anymore…
@ SSFox You made my day…for a few reasons. I was there once. Conscious incompetence, that is. There you are, thinking about what to text, trying to channel the spirit of RP, game…you know you’re on to something…you can pull this off, but are unsure exactly what to type…then you serve up a turd sandwich. Fortunately conscious incompetence isn’t unconscious incompetence. You KNOW there’s a way out of this but it’s gotta be in a natural SSFox style or you’ll inauthenticly fuck it up again. You know this isn’t a wolf in sheep clothing exercise. That’s why it frustrates you,… Read more »
Thing is, i’m no novice.
The point is that you’re a novice at mastering your feelings. You’re a novice at self-control, am I right? Once you have your feelings mastered, your game will blossom. By “game”, I don’t mean merely slaying pussy–game can be applied to getting gigs, dealing with salespeople, handling relatives, handling friends, etc.
“i feel like i have nothing to lose so should just go full on sexualizing now…” FINALLY! Go full on asshole. You’ll learn to love it. The second she attempts to leverage anything, throw it back in her face. She beta tests you? Extract something that she might find humiliating. There’s a lot to work with and fleezer and Sentient, in their own way, are rather good. Pick something, personalize it to context, and let it rip. Fuck it. What’s to lose? It’s no big deal, women humiliate themselves all the time. You too will enjoy abject filthy female subservience.… Read more »
Thx gents. Yes, life is rather challenging at the moment. But i’m sick of wallowing my own self pity. I was in good form last night at a function as part of a 2 day professional conference i was at, charming the women & men (successful professionals and politicians) not giving a fuck (a few drinks helps), yet i’ve gone to shit over some chick i’ve pedastalized who does not deserve fuck all from me… I can feel a shift. The BP shit inside that’s been fucking me over is gonna be expelled. I appreciate your patience & counsel. I… Read more »
OK Fox… I’ll lay out a strategy here. I’m disappointed you did exactly what we told you not to do by a) reaching out to her and b) sending the exact kind of beta puke text that we said not to send… lol Seriously lol and wtf and a smh for good measure. You really need to own that shit to make progress. So yeah you are getting beaten over the head because you seem to require it… Now… Moving on. Here is an angle. I lay this out mostly for other dudes. Frankly I have low confidence in your… Read more »
shit fox… posted to late… but you can still go with what I laid out, don’t wait for her to respond to your knee text.
Little shout out on Friday, from Life Lessons soundtrack – Sex Kick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lST2PvUp76k
Take that Karen O…
@ SSFox
We got your back.
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-2/#comment-183160
Mrs. Gamer showed me a text she got from someone named “Nikki” who was seeking a sex partner and lived on her street. I told her that I wanted to arrange a meeting with this person and that I’d respond. She quickly deleted the text. I’d at least have punched the person, male or female. Somebody fucks Mrs. Gamer will get fucked up–a few weeks in the hospital should do the trick…broken ribs, broken knees, broken fingers, concussion, broken balls.
Pro-tip: Don’t fuck around with married women–especially when they’re married to old guys.
Mrs. Gamer’s girl game is strong… lol
Ok, here’s another conundrum to figure out. I was shopping for produce with Mrs. Gamer at Price Chopper. Mrs. Gamer wanted some fresh dill. An old guy in the produce section asks if he can help me. Just as I’m starting to tell him what I want, out of the back room rushes a pretty young thing (PYT) and asks if she can help me. Takes me away from the old guy who was doing just fine. (This seems a little confusing. Why did she do this?) So she shows me where the dill is. Then, after showing me, she… Read more »
@Sentient
Mrs. Gamer’s girl game is strong… lol
This was a one-off…Mrs. Gamer seemed genuinely dismayed and discussed it with our daughter when our daughter called. The dismayal was evidenced during the phone convo–especially that the person may live on our street. I thought that it might be a bot trying to find active phone nos.
@scars ”the 10 girls I banged last year from cold approach” I think maybe you should be giving advice rather than asking for it. Most of the stuff (FRs if you can call them that?) i’m reading from others is making me die of cringe. You needed to isolate (find an excuse to do so) and if she agreed, you simply needed to be brave and ‘make the move’ as you put it. You seem to be wanting to find a way of doing so without there being a risk of rejection or awkwardness or uncertainty. It doesn’t exist. Stick… Read more »
“i feel like i have nothing to lose so should just go full on sexualizing now…”
no…
not if you want to turn it around. you are a couple steps away from that^^^.
no time right now and on my phone so no in depth analysis… will try to get to this asap…
good luck!
Lol @ ” 2018 “.
2018…was that AD or BC?
“Stick with @J. He’s at least playing the same game as you (trying to bang hot young girls from cold approach) and knows what it’s like out there nowadays in the year 2018”
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/cage_bliss.gif
awww yeah. sweet sweet validation
@ASD – I wouldn’t spend too much energy trying to solve that ‘conundrum’! lol. I think it sounds like a girl doing her job. Although I do love your optimism!! You must ‘see’ massive IOI’s everywhere! I imagine you one day being 110 years old, and some hot 17 year old girl from across the road will sneeze, and you’ll wheel yourself over to her thinking it was an approach invitation and that she must want your dick! lol. I like it though! Your posts make me giggle. I need to adopt that mindset
Blax, you do know that Game has changed from January to May, right? So you need to take my May bootcamp to keep up with the latest changes in Game.
McKay, glad I made you giggle. Sometimes IOIs are slight, but not really in this case. The girl was really hustling to get to me. It was kind of weird. Then she was standing a bit too close for comfort. Yeah, she was doing her job…I’m sure that was her hamsterization. The hottest girls give very slight IOIs. Mrs. Gamer’s IOIs were hard to read…the only IOI given by the first girl I banged was that she was compliant…she was willing to move with me away from our social group so that I could ask her a question…then, her IOI… Read more »
@theasdgamer “keep up with the latest changes in Game.” yeah. and if you were actually banging these girls in the you might have stumbled upon this spot-on observation from a guy who, like me, goes out with the sole intention of picking up hot chicks from cold approach and retaining her for multiple bangs, instead of sitting here wondering if some cute employee was giving you an IOI or just being friendly/doing her job: “A lot of what guys here have historically called FB and MLTR were very “string along” in nature. You’d meet a girl, fuck her 8-10 times… Read more »
“I imagine you one day being 110 years old, and some hot 17 year old girl from across the road will sneeze, and you’ll wheel yourself over to her thinking it was an approach invitation and that she must want your dick!”
fucking died laughing at this lmao
@ Sentient Yep, no response from knee text. Knew i should have waited. I’m failing miserably at this. F2F i’m pretty good when focused but this brave new world has me fucked. Acting so beta out of desperation and poor game is destroying my confidence (coupled with a hard mid-life crisis that’s hit me) as a man. It never used to be like this, but then it always has been… “Basically you are museless… and this is creating emotional conflict in you. You want to convey to her that you are passionate driven guy and that your art is more… Read more »
Also seem to be in limbo with the other (German) girl. Texted her the other night after the P debacle: So R, i’m inviting you to be my guest…
Early next morning she responds: Good morning:) To the event?
FoX an hour later: Yes (keeping it brief, aloof…)
No response…
I have so much more success talking them on the phone, but texting just ain’t working for me…
Fox
“I have no instinct for this game. ”
Great!!! Now you can stop using your instinct and start practicing and learning.
Up to you…
PS – you were supposed to send the text after the knee one. You didn’t.
That’s on you.
Try it. No instinct.
@Fox
“So R, i’m inviting you to be my guest…
Early next morning she responds: Good morning:) To the event?
FoX an hour later: Yes (keeping it brief, aloof…)
No response…”
lol. where’s the /\/\/\/\/\/???
Read NarrowJ’s first comment here:
https://www.girlschase.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=5510
lmao, j…you guys were stringing me along and now the worm has turned…
cooking up some collard greens, tater tots, vinegar slaw, and roast pork loin which we got for .99 a pound at Price Chopper. Already cut 16 cutlets from it for grilling and froze the other half. Later I’m planning to head out for dancing and socializing.
@theasdgamer
“Later I’m planning to head out for dancing and socializing.”
Haha same. Have fun my man!!!
Ssfox, Nah your thirst will be audible. Don’t do it. Look brother, this isn’t a race. You’re taking on water and drilling holes in the hull to let the water out. The point of RP is to let the world come to you. That’s it. Full stop. Don’t overthink this or do anything rash. Just stop a moment. You don’t need to evaluate yourself publicly here. Yeah your fouling up the basics of PUA. Yeah we know. You’re being unattractive. Stop that by stop texting. Honestly. Don’t call. FFS! How do you come off on stage, as out of tune… Read more »
ASD I’ve figured out your conundrum. You are a letch.
Occams razor slices through your constant search for IOIs in PYTs and exposes that the signals are all coming from you. It is not them giving you IOIs, its you leering at them, hoping upon hope that they would see you as an attractive studmuffin. No matter, though, since its all just game – head game in this case.
Slay some poon, J.
ASD I’ve figured out your conundrum. You are a letch.
Dam straight. Girls can tell it and it turns them on.
Or so you imagine.
FR I’m a FR virgin so here goes…kind of a brain dump of what’s been going on. I don’t contribute much here so maybe this is a change in a positive direction… 45yo POF woman messages me. I’m on the dating apps but I don’t really message first much anymore, unless she’s a hot young black woman (my fave), but that hasn’t worked out much recently. She’s skinny with a nice ass, long auburn hair, pleasant personality, 2 older kids (19 and something…). We banter on text for a couple of days then I suggest we meet so we set… Read more »
“In the meantime I’m going to try juggling the three.”
fixed that for you. Put a period there. Full stop.
I didn’t go out last night after all. I decided that it was time to let Mrs. Gamer win one. She’s being very sweet, but wants to be cajoled into doing stuff for me (she wants to be wanted, I think–some form of validation). You all know just how much I love sweet girls.
Just another lovely shit-testing day at home.
She’s out of town for a funeral this weekend so maybe next week.
Forgot to mention, the funeral is for her sister’s ex-boyfriend. She dumped him about 6 months ago and he was having a hard time with it. Killed himself last week because she refused to come see him. MMA guy too, maybe 27. Such a shame
@DisgruntledEarthling Take a look at these: I decide against pressing for a lay [with 45yo POF] on the 2nd date. I do kino, tease, hug tightly on greeting and end up with a kiss. If I was younger she’d [first SB] probably be the mother of my kids. The 45 pof woman is more my type (in terms on societal norms) and she seems eager. She’s coming over again tonight and I’m sure well end up in bed. I’m not hard-up for sex after my divorce 4 years ago. The 20yo ex-live-in is my dream-girl but it’s all on the… Read more »
Yes, two worlds. But that’s the way I roll. I’m inconsistent. ‘I see the 45yo as having more ‘standards’ or responsibilities because of her kids. Who knows. But she’s coming over this afternoon and if I don’t get a 3rd-date bang then I’m less inclined to go on with her. But she does seem eager so it’s highly likely. The 20yo is my preference. I booted her because of some drama and mostly because I lost frame and pulled a bitch move. I’m like that – I don’t yet have complete control over my emotions. We’ve talked about that last… Read more »
@DisgruntledEarthling Yes, two worlds. But that’s the way I roll. I’m inconsistent. I meant Blue Pill and Red Pill. I see the 45yo as having more ‘standards’ or responsibilities because of her kids. Do you even read here? 😉 But she’s coming over this afternoon and if I don’t get a 3rd-date bang then I’m less inclined to go on with her. Let me remind you: “I decide against pressing for a lay on the 2nd date“. So what is it? Her token resistance that brought you to a 3rd date or you not knowing what you want? But she… Read more »
“The 20yo is my preference […] her family would probably kill me if they found out…”
@The Silver FoX ok, made some time… take a DEEP breathe… hold it… hold it… breathe in deeper… hoooooold it……………… exhale… keep pushing…. push out… push….puuuuush….hold it…….. inhale…deeply… feel better?… we’ve ALL been there… the good news is you’re not dead… and you are still breathing… right?… the ‘bad’ news is that the FI is pushing on you pretty hard…and the FI is cunning and pervasive… here are some examples… I would have ignored except the last line: ‘How can i make amends. X’ gives me an opening that i don’t want to fuck up, as pathetic as that sounds…… Read more »
So gentlemen, been laid up in hossie waiting for appendix op since last sad sack post. It just came on, a culmination to the shit i’ve been putting myself thru lately. Have used this opportunity to just go harder gaming the girls, going for broke, nothing to lose, checking their sympathy. Did have a surprise visitor yesterday, the married woman I’m into, who came in wearing a sexy jumpsuit with a homemade piece of chocolate cake & a cute handpicked posie from her garden, leaving hubby in the car. More background on this one later. Will post it all up… Read more »
@ having a bad day I appreciate the time you took for that response. Good to have u guys having my back. I amped it up with P girl once in hospital. Tricky to bounce it on my phone, so will lay out reset brief interaction when holding my laptop. Back the lowdown is that i told her I was gonna put her over my knee & give her a good spanking, but that it would have to wait til after i delt with hospital, to which she responded: ‘Haha I can wait, I wish you a sound recovery xx’… Read more »
@j, funny old night. I went too a posh town like 40 mins away for a change. Location theory really does exist. Every time I go too an posh town, opening sets becomes about 50 times easier than where I usually approach in my home town. It feels more like gaming in the US. (When I went to America 2 times, both times I was blown away at the difference in how easy it was too at least reach the hook point). Typically, in my home town, I will be more or less flat out ignored on 6 out of… Read more »
@scars You sexy bastard. Good night out. You don’t give yourself enough credit. Sticking points: – You still don’t extract them (babystep if needed). Why escalate when you don’t have a ‘start to finish’ plan? J doesn’t make out there and then because that makes them chase him on the way to a sex location. Cat string theory. It’s kiss denial PLUS leading. She wanting to kiss you = high point. What do we do on high points? – You still don’t disarm cockblocks. You knew that Blue Dress was around! Chess not checkers. Why don’t you just keep doing… Read more »
@scars awesome night, mate! I pulled a drunk girl (hb7) literally within seconds last night. I’m 6 feet, and this chick was about 5 feet tall, as soon as we started dancing I lifted her up, hands on her thighs, told her to wrap her legs around me, then I thought, “wait a minute. I think I can fucking pull this girl right now!” and I did. Lead her out the club (zero cockblocks) Got her out the club and into a taxi to mine. she accused me of being a very naughty boy 😉 anyway…. “she instantly turned a… Read more »
Can you feel the FI pushing on you? l Hehe ordinarily I completely agree when this line is brought out here. It’s so true most times. In the case it’s a bit misguided. My 20yo is South Sudanese and the old African culture will literally kill me… unless I come up with a 100 cow dowry (comes out to about 90000 USD). The parents and siblings are not very forgiving. The 20yo is pretty westernized though. Anyways the 45yo stayed the night and I banged her last night and this morning. But the weirdest sex – what sort of lover… Read more »
Do you even read here?
Good point. I do. I need to be more ruthless and think about these details in real time
Disgruntled “But the weirdest sex – what sort of lover doesn’t touch your junk?” Mostly the kind that isn’t desire sex… With some women it’s a lack of experience (yes even older women, those with low N counts) or extreme submission – want/need to be directed. But go with lack of desire. See your self imposed delay for a hint of how she reads you… Moving on… Scars “Location theory really does exist. Every time I go too an posh town, opening sets becomes about 50 times easier than where I usually approach in my home town. … I live… Read more »
Mostly the kind that isn’t desire sex… With some women it’s a lack of experience (yes even older women, those with low N counts) or extreme submission – want/need to be directed. It’s just old-fashioned ASD in some cases, even if you’ve been married as long as I have. (Garn! I’m a good girl, I am.) Sometimes it’s a shit test and you just need to be insistent and persistent in a humorous way and build the sexual tension some more. (This is a different way of saying what Sentient said. Hopefully it will add something that some people may… Read more »
Sentient, I’m sure that not all chemistry leads to sex. I don’t think that you had a problem building some desire. But were you aloof enough? Did you develop Preselection? That girl might have been deliberately cockteasing. But it sounds like she was interested because she tried to give you her no. Maybe you needed to bounce her to another location or two before going hard for the lay. Idk. Otherwise you get ASD, amirite? That’s the theory I’ve read, anyway. That’s what I’d try if I were going for the lay. NB It’s been said before, but it bears… Read more »
@DisgruntledEarthling Hehe ordinarily I completely agree when this line is brought out here. It’s so true most times. In the case it’s a bit misguided. My 20yo is South Sudanese and the old African culture will literally kill me… unless I come up with a 100 cow dowry (comes out to about 90000 USD). Ah ok. Can you feel the FI pushing on you? LOL The fact is always dull, at all times more like a calf than a god. [F. Nietzsche] Have you seen me saying OMG what if my wife decides to divorce me for hitting on other… Read more »
Boris Vallejo
One for Sentient:
http://art.cafimg.com/images/Category_8668/subcat_143946/Jeannies_Kitten.jpg
One for Blax:
http://art.cafimg.com/images/Category_40410/subcat_162111/Boris_Aries_small.jpg
Lol
Some sexy Jheri curl there Blax. Smooooove
@ Senient etc Did you see my last post? Here it is again… I amped it up with P girl once in hospital. Tricky to bounce it on my phone, so will lay out reset brief interaction when holding my laptop. Back the lowdown is that i told her I was gonna put her over my knee & give her a good spanking, but that it would have to wait til after i delt with hospital, to which she responded: ‘Haha I can wait, I wish you a sound recovery xx’ I left it at that for now… Also bouncing… Read more »
@FoX
P girl
Is that the Persian girl, the one we were commenting on? Or are you sending spanking messages to multiple girls? lol
I’m not sure who the girl #2 is either. German? Not that it matters, but consistent naming would help to follow it.
Tricky to bounce it on my phone
Tricky to balance your laptop on a boner! LOL
Are you still at the hospital or are you able to lay out the rest?
Just had my appendix out yesterday after unexpected pain on Saturday morning. One of the surgeons was a young Chinese woman, quite serious but rather attractive. Anyways, i just had a visit from her and 3 doctors and one of the doctors was a 40 something woman, not too bad (a bit skinny for my taste) who was beaming at me from the get go, picked up one of my books to peruse after asking permission, then really gave me big IOI when i asked when i could get back on my bikes. She left by saying, “It’s all about… Read more »
@ IRL
P girl is Persian & #2 girl is the German. I simplified things as to de-pedastalize them as rightly encouraged here, and it’s working. From now on just gonna look at all women i want to fuck as annoying girls and truly seeing myself as the prize, which i fucking well am.
Just texted the German (who i haven’t amped it up seXually with yet:
“Not enough seXy nurses here…”