For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@ j I’m not experienced at explaining these kind of things. It’s a handicap for me because I’ve not studied pua for purposes of getting laid. I’d think that in the beginning, a guy would need structure until he reaches a particular comfort level, and at that point, he should kinda be on auto pilot without thinking. That sucks, but it’s the best I can muster. Lol. When I was a youth ( lol ), I used to wake up in the morning with a raging hard on, feeling like I was a ticking time bomb. I’d sit on the… Read more »
… I’d have to learn all of the ” language ” first, but it can’t be harder than coding was initially.
@blax “Do you enjoy interacting with females outside of trying to get the lay?” Every hot girl i interact with, I’m only talking to her because I want to fuck her (ugly girls i use to warm up). “Do ya regularly just talk for an hour to a random 7-8 just to have a conversation and a few laughs?” Only fuckbuddies. I love talking with them and sharing interesting things I’ve read about or watched a movie about, having a few laughs between fuck sessions. I only want to be with hot girls that share a similar sense of humor… Read more »
@ j
” Every hot girl i interact with, I’m only talking to her because I want to fuck her (ugly girls i use to warm up). ”
Serious question, even if it sounds dumb as fuck, but have you considered that just talking and interacting with females as much as possible will improve all interactions, including the ” want to fuck ones “?? Lotta opportunity bro.
So are you saying that you don’t have any female friends at all? ( feel free to tell me to mind my business…. I’m just curious ).
“So are you saying that you don’t have any female friends at all?”
ya no female friends. that’s what guys are for
“So are you saying that you don’t have any female friends at all?” Well, well. Blax, What might….might the girls be thinking about you when you hang, for an hour to a random 7-8, just to have a conversation and a few laughs?” 8 hours for a FEW laughs? Are they family? Well I’d better be installing a toilet or something. How many removed cousins are they? I’d install the toilet and GTFO. Are they coworkers? No toilet, no show. Are they a mix? Let me think about that a bit. I have to think all that as the reality… Read more »
Eh Lol. I like talking to women. I have probably a dozen females I consider close friends. I grew up with as many, or even more female friends as guy friends. I think I knew ” red pill ” way before I came to trm, I just didn’t have a name for it. And one of the biggest factors in that knowledge was my ” girl friends ” growing up, and our honest and frank conversations – for years and years. So basically, I don’t see women as the ” other “, just different=female, and all the stuff that goes… Read more »
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioZ2AO2CpX8&w=1280&h=720%5D
lol, all just girlies.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJmiZgVwLgw&w=1280&h=720%5D
feelin’ torque.
@Blax
“I’d think that in the beginning, a guy would need structure until he reaches a particular comfort level, and at that point, he should kinda be on auto pilot without thinking.
That sucks, but it’s the best I can muster. Lol.”
This is spot on. And entirely in line with everything YaReally posted. It’s just that not many guys who start to learn pickup make it to this stage (how many guys who start going to the gym actually end up with a 6 pack?)
“His “method” is not even game, its to go up and “screen” and then try to escalate.”
Lookism on JMULV
are they (lookism) right or wrong about that, though?
PS – You read lookism?!! I stumbled upon that place years ago and it wrecked my mind lol.
PS – The lookism crowd (only thing that matters is handsome face. No such thing as ‘game’) have really started to take over lots of pickup forums – In particular the RSD forums. They are unrecognisable from a year or so back. I wonder what caused that?!!
“I wonder what caused that?!!”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5476118-3×2-940×627.jpg
It’s all in my course bra…
Download for free!
-E
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1173808-elliot-rodger-manifesto.html
Redlighthouse, Well that’s better than examining your shoes. Congratulations. You’re still pedestalizing. They laughed at your mouth agape. Don’t do that and stop rating women on HB scales…she could be a 2 and you’d still fuck it up. It’s not the girl messing you up, it’s you. Just gitls, yo. “What do you say to a random woman? Whatever you want – if you’ve talked to enough of them to know how to say whatever you want, and know enough about them from interactions, not reading or watching videos, you will pickup on a ton of shit that is completely… Read more »
“That’s being weird isn’t it?”
That’s you being wierd.
No RedLightHouse, Them laughing is not weird because they all knew what was going on there. Yes, you doing what you did is weird. As in: you looked like a creep to them. You may not actually be a creep, but they perceived you as being a creep. Creeps are laughable to her peers. You were invisible to the perfect 10. Next time, what are you going to do? How did you benefit by staring longingly rather than engage with her or her peers? What are you going to do about that? (one idea is to engage with one of… Read more »
@RedLightHouse Work on learning about social things and developing your social skills before you work on girls. You don’t understand social things enough yet for you to even comprehend any advice about girls that we might give. Keep reading The Rational Male in the meantime and learn what you can from it. NB Working on learning about social things involves watching what others do and learning from them. Observe when others make social blunders and also when their behavior gives them social success. And experiment yourself with social things and learn from your failures. If you have questions about the… Read more »
@RedLightHouse Rookie RedlightHouse: “Everyone. Today when I was walking home after class, I saw a perfect 10/10 on the street. Again, I was staring at her but couldn’t make it a bold act. God that nymph! Her peers started laughing after I had passed them. That’s being weird isn’t it?” Future RedPillLightHouse: “Everyone. Today when I was strutting home doing day game after class, I saw a cute girl (no 10s out there cause they all take shits) on the street. I situation-opened her, teased her, then took her to the coffee shop. God these girls are easy. Her peers… Read more »
@redlighthouse: How many minutes did you use typing up that last comment of yours? 10? 30? That time is gone to never return. Get busy living.
lol only reason I linked the lookism link was because I agreed with Krauser’s claim that JMULV bangs hookers. Krauser talks more about it here in the comments section:
https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2018/01/07/jmulv-has-the-best-advice-in-game-right-now/
ctrl + f “krauserpua”
@scars
I registered to become a member of NextASF last night (mainly just to view the LRs over there, but I might contribute over there as well) and got approve this morning. Good luck
I still think jmulv is probably banging hookers or something, lol. Just a feeling. But krauser hit on this here- ” Do the maths as well, per your data-driven approach. You said he claims 766 lays? Ok, let’s say he’s 35 now and started getting laid when he was 15, giving him an active sex life of 20 years. That’s wildly favourable assumptions in his favour, but make the calculation easier. 766 lays in 7300 days, or one new girl every 9.5 days. Consistently, over 20 years. Non-stop. That’s the average, not a one-month hot streak. That average includes learning… Read more »
@redlighthouse
Check out “No More Mr. Nice Guy” by Robert Glover.
Also you might want to work through the sidebar links on reddit/r/theredpill
South America/Brazil, Panama. Carribean/Dominican Republic. Thialand/Pattaya/Bangkok ( Pattaya doe….yaasss…)
Blax
Now that number’s not counting doods either 😉
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhF0gGVgJg1/
“One new girl every almost 10 days.” and that’s exactly how I’ll pitch it to them me: “I’m on a strict program. super strict” miss day 10: “i bet. you look like you lift” me: “i outta knock you the fuck out right now. that’s a huge insult where I’m from. next your’re gonna say I fucking count calories” miss day 10: “that is what fags do these days” me: “here’s how this is going to work, miss day 10. first, the quiz. then, if you pass, the thing that rhymes with quiz. question one: bikini, thong, commando miss day… Read more »
@J – have you been able to login yet?
I have also been approved this time, but the temporary password/username combo they emailed me isn’t working. I’ve emailed the site owner 12 hours ago but no reply. Wondered if maybe it was a site issue rather than an issue at my end
@scars
haha yeah i had the same issue. Go to Login in — > hit ‘forgot password’ — > they’ll send you a link via email to enter a new password. — do it and then login in with the new password. That’s what worked for me.
I actually tried that a few hours ago but didn’t receive an email! lol.(checked junk email too)
Gone midnight here. I’ll see if I have any luck tomorrow!
About the head out tonight with my wing. First Thursday night in months. Just saw this clip from the one man ThrillRide’s (Barstool fans here?) thoughts on last months “triumph of the beta male” cover. POWERFUL. Let’s get it:
@redlight That list of stuff that traps guys, I have always used those kinds of descriptions when I’m running my trust game. “Oh he really understands me” Then i withdraw that type of talk when she *most* wants to hear it, and get her to “do something for me” The personality/life analysis is a draw, but she ends up in my bed because I get her to invest in the interaction. It is the “do something for me”, that gets me closer to the pussy, not my “deep” insight into human beings. All of them shits describe everyone, at some… Read more »
Everyone I can’t reject a friend boldly even when I have strong ground for it. Whenever I say something rude to a friend, I start thinking what he is feeling inside. What other people thinking about me is extreamely important for me even if they are wrong. That’s why I avoid social interection, sometimes I use “socially correct” behaviors to prove that I’m not from other planet. And I harshly criticise myself. That is improper. Don’t do that. That renders you powerless in social interactions. It is weak. Google Jordan Peterson Dark Side/Shadow self. Better to be malevolent and not… Read more »
Field Report on Social Skills Development Last night was both weird and a peak experience. The weird part was a girl. I didn’t recognize a girl I had danced with previously a few nights–29 yo hb7, but she was hooting and hollering around me…yelled that I was awesome…kissed my hand…danced a line dance close to me and was kino-ing me continually…I danced once with her just before I left and she was very huggy after the dance…she danced pretty close…she was “lit up” when I approached her table to ask her to dance…she was with a guy who is a… Read more »
Goldman needs help….
https://www.twitter.com/GoldmundUnleash/status/985258627538849793
Some awful suggestions in the comments.
Thoughts?
You dont get told no very often
1. Haha.well sometimes. Like No no don’t stop…
2. We’ll see how you play your cards.
You always get what you want.
1. You’ve never met anyone like me.
2. We’ll see how you play your cards.
You always get what you want.
Of course. Do you get enough of what YOU want?
“We’ll see how you play your cards” is a great all-rounder pretty much anywhere.
Me?
Mmm..maybe something like “Me? I’m just a simple boy whose mom taught him to be nice to girls…” [with huge smirk]
1. but when I do, I go home and cry and eat ice cream [with a hurt expression] (this includes a DHV and gives comfort…it has the advantage of using her imagination visualizing you crying and eating ice cream like a girl) 2. more often than you’d think [amused mastery smile] (holds frame and parries the entitlement imputation) 3. two-year-olds are such fun! [cocky grin] (flips the script and forces a girl to qualify that she’s not a two-year-old) 3. tough crowd [with a deadpan expression] (an indirect reply that denies her assumption that you are arrogant and entitled and… Read more »
Goldmund, no need to answer all her questions. You’re the dude, aren’t you?
Tap her nose and call her playful. Or something.
* singing* ” you can’t always get what you want…but if you try sometimes, you just might find…you get what you need…. Aaawwww yeah!!!! “. I’m a high achiever, but evidently I require a few more drinks. I’m dyslexic, so most times ” no ” sounds like ” on ” to me. It’s not so much a question of getting what I want, as much as it is a question of wanting what I get. Anyone can just say ” no “. I’m encouraging you to be bold and exciting and break the boring standards. I usually take what I… Read more »
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4a/4a15d350f338c7c2047f68dcd684e71d61021810baa3a1234a8e45201cfb9720.jpg
The girl wasn’t happy with goldmund’s cocky “so?”, so while the cocky comebacks to this girl are funny, that’s not what she wanted to hear. She wants comfort. So that’s why outta all the replies, I think this one is the best: “Speaking of ” no “, I got a question for ya, how many times do you think you’ve said no in your entire life? And have you ever regretted saying no and wished you’d have said ” yes ” instead?” Doesn’t qualify himself, and then uses “no” to delve into a more emotionally stimulating topic…(NLP: If she doesn’t… Read more »
@j The girl wasn’t happy with goldmund’s cocky “so?” Good point. Not clear what else happened there. Interesting how we all read it. For me, it was not enough A2, so I was thinking of keeping it up for one more round, getting another response to see if this was a tease, a concern or a hard NO, and calibrating from there. No more context in the tweet. Yours is smooth. Achieves the same (and more) without compromising the flow in case you come off uncalibrated. You just DHV in a storytelling way… you could even open with Blax’s line.… Read more »
Speaking of A2 and calibration… I was trying to watch this in the background:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8hVT3Yeur0
German Aziz Ansari?!
Hmm… Goldmund’s choice:
https://twitter.com/GoldmundUnleash/status/985533147847823360
lol….game isn’t pickup lines
when it comes to picking up women
puas >>>>>>>>> manosphere ‘alpha males’
It would explain this (@j good read on ‘too cocky’):
https://twitter.com/GoldmundUnleash/status/985293963245572096
Jesus, this German Aziz Ansari guy has a full blown coaching channel with 70k+ subscribers.
Some topics:
– How to be confident as a men
– How to get a healthy body Fitness for guys
– Double your dating with HOT girls in 7 days
Das fliegt? 70k+? RLY? 😬
The girl wasn’t happy with goldmund’s cocky “so?”, so while the cocky comebacks to this girl are funny, that’s not what she wanted to hear. I thought this at first, then I thought some more. No snark intended. Caring about what a girl wants to hear is the FI pushing on you…you should be focused on what will advance your agenda…I agree that she needs comfort here, or at least something to alleviate her ASD/fear/caution. You can do this with clever comebacks if your response also soothes the girl’s fears. Hence the eating ice cream response. “Speaking of ” no… Read more »
when it comes to picking up women
puas >>>>>>>>> manosphere ‘alpha males’
Desire-sex relationships are puddles. Pickup is the Atlantic Ocean!
If you make yourself into a lolcow, I’ll milk you for sure. I do that a lot and that’s probably why so many people don’t like me. Ask me if I give a fuck. Hmmm. Maybe my psychopathy index is higher than I first thought.
“game isn’t pickup lines”
“game isn’t pickup”
fify
“Caring about what a girl wants to hear is the FI pushing on you” No its called calibrating to the girl’s blueprint in order to achieve your goal. Personally I like cocky feisty girls cause then I can go full jerkboy scumbag mode and that’s fun for me. “game isn’t pickup” hmm so what does snoop mean in this when he mentions “game” in this clip?: https://www.instagram.com/p/BeMnqmZh1c1/ Maybe I’m wrong, but I think he means having the ability to pick up (hot) women. Don’t give me this ‘pussy is pussy’ shit. A dude that pickups up a shit ton of… Read more »
should go without saying but if you banging HB10 hookers (like this red pill alpha male) that ain’t game either:
https://twitter.com/huntfored/status/985077446214078465
IDGAS about some rapper’s shitty opinions.
Learn sales and politics if you want to learn game. The same ideas translate to pickup and relationships (both male friends and female lovers).
Read Greene’s “The Art of Seduction” if you are inclined to read.
Me: “Caring about what a girl wants to hear is the FI pushing on you”
j: No its called calibrating to the girl’s blueprint in order to achieve your goal.
Beta Game. Got it. lol
…bro you just dance with girls but like….
Reading a girl’s signals and responding within your frame is alpha game.
Responding within a girl’s frame is beta game. Betas are pushed around by the FI.
j, you can eat at the big kids’ table after you’ve been married 20 years.
I see lots of PUAs get tooled and dumped by girls because they have no frame. But they have oodles of pickup “game”.
“after you’ve been married 20 years.”
Lmao…thanks but I’ll pass
@ASDGamer
Autistic traits are equivalent to not using emotions when dealing with things that present themselves to you. That is a value in Game. Same as the wisdom of psychopaths.
Here, take this 11 question inventory of your psychopathic index:
http://www.kevindutton.co.uk/test/the-psychopath-challenge/
My definition of Game is “the strategy and tactics that enable you to have success in meeting your goals in a social context.”
Now, j, I am using Game and meeting my goals. So, clearly, my practice of Game is at least somewhat proficient and gives me some expertise and weight to my comments about Game.
Why is that a problem for you?
Autistic traits are equivalent to not using emotions when dealing with things that present themselves to you. I can’t agree with that. Autists are frequently incendiary and easily triggered. Otoh, they frequently miss social cues. That’s one of the key diagnostic traits. Maybe to some people they seem wooden. Autists frequently manifest blank expressions, even when their emotions are stirred up. I’ve had to learn to not let others trigger my anger. It’s not autism that did this. I had to work at it. I took the test. My psychopathy index is high, but is governed by my ethics. NB… Read more »
Asd Thank God you defined ” Game “. The fully grown men who were teaching me ( and came up with the concept of Game…) In my community in the 60s and 70s, and the millions and millions and millions of men ( and women ) since then who are game savy, well, they need to read your words. Too bad I never saw you back in those days…anywhere…but it’s not important. You’re here now and we need your guidance.😀 @ J Young lion, when I speak of ” pedestalizing ” I am correct in as the way guys see… Read more »
“Learn sales and politics if you want to learn game. The same ideas translate to pickup and relationships” damn how many times do I gotta link this shit: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/defining-the-alpha-male/ “I knew a guy who was alpha by most people’s definitions — an Army soldier and lawyer by trade, built like granite, he was a fearsome warrior with a taste for fighting who could knock a man out with a punch that landed like a piledriver. He walked with purpose everywhere and immediately cowed men into deferring to him when in social situations. ” sounds like a guy who is using… Read more »
@ j
You ever watch Boomerang, with Eddie Murphy? If not, you should put it on your watch list.
Ok, ASD, I get it, missing social cues is not the same as not being fazed by difficult situations, which is the hallmark of psychopathic traits.
I’m pretty low or intermediate on that quick psychopathy test. Like 13 or so out of 33.
I have an unusually powerful ability to concentrate on something, without the noisy emotions that might rattle that concentration. Mostly because of Stoicism. I pick up on social clues readily.
Hence, my former comments that I had autistic traits, which I don’t, I just had commonalities because of preferences that way.
so why despite the fact these guys have ‘Game’ according to your definition Were they meeting their goals in a social context? If their goals were to get laid with hot girls, was that happening? “social context” = “anytime you have to deal with other people”…maybe you thought I meant bars only…it includes business meetings, political rallies, sex, etc. Charisma alone isn’t game. It’s a tool in the toolbox. Sometimes you have to be a dick. Another tool in the toolbox. It’s always good to have frame. A tool in the toolbox. (You can get laid without having frame, but… Read more »
@Blax
haha just saw the trailer. I’ll check it out. thanks
Game=life.
You’re welcome.
J
“Time to stop pushing the ‘PUAs getting tooled by girls’ meme…the community knows how to keep girls fuckbuddies hooked long term now)”
Really? What is the definition of “long term”, and what is the frequency of fucks over that period?
J
It’s like 26 years old but you will pickup on a ton of stuff that many will only see a laugh in.
Field Report
Last night was meh. I was low on sleep and my energy level sucked, but I tried. Danced a lot as usual with a lot of different girls. One girl tried to grind on me, but I swatted her butt and walked away. (The swat was meant to be a friendly show of displeasure.)
I learned to just stay home if I’m low on sleep. I don’t need to go out to exercise and it lowers my value if i’m not sharp.
“Time to stop pushing the ‘PUAs getting tooled by girls’ meme…the community knows how to keep girls fuckbuddies hooked long term now)”
In theory, maybe. In reality, I SEE them getting tooled. But I’m sure you know what’s actually going on better than what my eyes see.
The best explanation of calibrating to the girl I saw was in a Julien video (possibly from PIMP) where he talks about congruency and identity. It was something along the lines of how in any situation (with a girl, but actually this would apply even in non-Game contexts) there are a range of things that you could do or say that are congruent to you and your personality (ie, authentic), not just one thing. Your job is to do or say the thing *from that range that is authentic to you*, which is best calibrated to that particular girl and… Read more »
Culum Yes, it will usually boil back down to authenticity. The ability to know when and why to walk away is crucial. Hell, sometimes the chick might just do the calibrating and follow. The good news is that a man can be authentic at a super wide variety of things and mannerisms/beliefs if he internalizes . It’s hard to fail that way. Lol, I don’t think I disagree with j that much. He’s putting in work and no matter what, that is to be respected. Our age difference is expected to cause a perspective difference. The more I ” talk… Read more »
Another take on Goldmund’s shit tests, this time Yohami:
https://rivsdiary.wordpress.com/2018/04/15/goldmunds-shit-test/#comment-3895
Here’s a little more analysis about the grinding girl… 1. there was a guy with her who suggested that I dance with her (obviously a setup) 2. she wanted to grind at the edge of the dance floor (therefore it was not for her social validation 3. she was a random girl…I didn’t know her and I don’t think I’ve danced with her before (no reason to trust her) 4. this was late at night and she probably was drunk So, this was about her personal validation she would get by grinding with me…kind of an IOI and kind of… Read more »
Rivsdiary actually has a post – are you fucking her hard enough.
😂😂😁😀😂
Some aspects of the ” manosphere ” are unbelievably priceless.
….Too much masturbation.😂😂
Riv says: “i feel like i would have smirked a confident smirk, and said, “you’re precious”.” Nope. “Precious” is a reward. Rewarding her when she’s giving you shit means, if she’d stay, that she’d continue to give you shit to get that reward. But likely she won’t stay as girls (the ones worth of keeping around) are actually for a guy who won’t put up with their shit. So the proper response is a punishment. If you feel like negging, now is when. And if you’re going to neg her, pick something that is out of this frame reference so… Read more »
Blaximus, Amen to all that.
Think of a shit test as an attempted takedown in wrestling…the best reaction is to avoid it…you can also take down the opponent instead…kind of flipping the script…so, there are several feasible responses to shit tests…shit tests aren’t coming from the cortex, but from the mid-brain…sex is on the table in her mind and she’s testing your strength to see if you measure up…
…comfort tests are more like a puppy cowering on its back with its legs in the air, exposing its throat…
So let’s consider Goldmund’s response to the test. “So?” implies “So where’s the problem?” That is in line with all of the responses by Blax and Yohami, yet it somehow failed.
ASD, “So?” can mean many different things depending on how you say it. Was it defiant? uninterested? cocky? bitchy, mirroring her? And she wasn’t ‘happy’, what is this girl in particular responding to most of the time? is she hunting for a beta? what’s her specific taste? is she looking for romance? a romp? a travesti with a flower in his ass? Bottom line we’re talking about generalities here. If a girl is being bitchy she wont get comfort from me, but a dosis of ‘don’t cross this line’. And if she can’t take a boundary she can go play… Read more »
@theasdgamer
yet it somehow failed
Not enough thrust to take off. Hitting one button over and over again doesn’t move you forward.
how you say it I think you’re on the right track. The nonverbal communication likely drowned out the verbal communication. I was once given a similar shit test to Goldmund’s. Me: I want to make love to you. She: Do you do this with all your friends? (subtext: Are you a player?) Me (cocky grin): Sure. (very similar to Goldmund’s “So?) Then a 2nd shit test followed immediately. She: You know I’m engaged, right? Me: Of course. Then she figured out the logistics and said she’d contact me when to come over. Yohami is missing the important point that a… Read more »
I got another shit test Fri. night from the girl who was part of the engaged couple I was chatting with. The man informed me how old he was and asked how old I was. Me: Old enough to know better, but too young to care. (humor, a DHV) Girl, laughing: No, really, how old are you? (shit test #1) Me: I get that question from young girls sometimes and I just tell them that if they behave, I’ll get them an ice cream. Girl laughs some more. She: Come on, tell us how old you are. (shit test #2)… Read more »
…. For 16 year olds
Back to basics… everything boils down to context, calibration and congruence: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/are-you-a-player/ You want to know how to respond to this super shit test from a girl. First, judge the context and the delivery. Did you just meet her? Is she in a flirty mood? Is she a sassy girl who loves to “get one over” men? Or, is she genuinely curious about you? Is she comfortable sitting down with you to talk, away from supervision? Do the number of hair tosses and the shine in her eyes betray a surging interest for more intimacy? If the former (she wants… Read more »
Blax, don’t you have a car to work on today?
Yareally archive down, any one here with a backup?
Kayos
There is no free lunch…
” Blax, don’t you have a car to work on today?”
Nah. Just got out of teleconference with Dubai.
No car work until next weekend.
IRL
Back to basics… everything boils down to context, calibration and congruence
This is what was troubling with Goldbugs responses…
https://twitter.com/GoldmundUnleash/status/985641608455520256
See with this kind of attitude you have to flip the script… why “we’ll see how you play your cards” works… it has ambiguity on the surface, buuuuut it will register with her, as YOU being discerning about your interest in her and subcomms that you know what’s up, her little act, feint… script flipped.
https://twitter.com/GoldmundUnleash/status/985529208289026048
Also this attitude is weak ^^
@Sentient I missed that tweet. In that case, assuming he’s not interpreting her behavior to match the “impossible” narrative, she was dismissive and not submissive/vulnerable = no compliance, not invested enough. She was still engaged, so the value levels weren’t massively mismatched yet. But he was just frame clashing and it went nowhere. Any question/qualifier (e.g. my initial suggestion) she could have easily shrugged off (she was communicating she wasn’t compliant already) and I can’t see how self-deprecating jokes could have moved it forward. A much better way to unlock it is here: “how do you behave when you don’t… Read more »
@Kayos, click on my name to see YA’s pinned summary post.
Girl: You must do it a lot.
Mystery: Are you suggesting I’m smooth?
IRL I did have one with the “cards” line, it was instant DDB OMG eyes after that… direct hit to the hindbrain. I’ll see if I can dredge it up. Basically the same thing as the “we aren’t having sex” in a way… The words aren’t as important as the understanding that you know what’s up, she knows what’s up and she knows you know what’s up… someone else commented on that subcomm I think. The seal the deal component is after the line, you are chill, unphased and you keep drawing her into your frame. Good place for a… Read more »
IRL
https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/29/the-cardinal-rule-of-sexual-strategies/comment-page-5/#comment-165553
I am using strong boyfriend familiar kino… not sexual but hand on her waist while she talks, my head turned away from her so she can talk into my ear, but I can keep eye contact broken and survey the room. she says to me now “you know nothing is going to happen here right?” and I tell her with a smirk “well we will see how you play your cards” and her jaw drops again…