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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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WestIndianArchie
4 years ago

At the extreme levels, pretty much anything is possible. If you’re ability to influence someone’s emotions and behaviors is @ the presidential level (reagan, clinton, bush 2, obama, trump, etc) – you can get away with being fat, slovenly, and poorly dressed….for a time. The rest of you fuckers need to get in the gym and wear clothes that fit. Even RSDFatLuke can dress accentuate his “imminence” to give the “big teddy bear” appeal to some chicks. As they like to say on Style Forum, a good suit can hide a multitude of sins. There is a bare minimum of… Read more »

boulderhead
4 years ago

” I’m 19 y.o.. I’m 5’6″. I live in Asia where this 5’6″ is the average. My weight probably 65 kilograms.”

Like Jet Li.

“I live in a very cheap house,”

Most people do,this doesn’t mean they don’t take pride in it and treat it with respect.

“Those girls were seriously staring at me. But when I looked down like a cat, they started laughing.”

Never look down or away from girls, you are the man. Learn to smile with your eyes then do it.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“Never look down or away from girls, you are the man. Learn to smile with your eyes then do it.”

Bonus points for sticking your tongue out at them… Of course now when they laugh and OMG you need to go open them.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago
theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Redlight First, I know east Asians who are awesome. You have the capacity to do awesome things. Your potential is awesome. You are young and might well develop that potential. Even knowing that you have the potential should be enough to encourage you greatly. You sound like a smart guy and that’s good. Now put those brains to work to figure out how to improve your social skills and your mental frame. About westerners dissing you…what’s probably going on is that they are dissing your frame because you presented yourself as someone to be disrespected. Change that thinking immediately, if… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

LR I see this girl on her phone walking in my opposite direction and I just attempt to grab her but she fights back I’m saying “let me text for you men know how to text better than girls I’ll get a response” she’s laughing. Then she’s like I’m looking for your friends. Fuck your friends. This is the moment I realize she’s a 9. I open her purse and put her phone in her purse and zip it, spin her around and start dancing. putting both her arm around me. tell her my nationality and she tells me a… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

just one minor detail I just remembered that I thought was funny: before that set. there was the 7 milf sitting by herself at a table. I opened her. Found out she was from the place I grew up. Said her boyfriend was in the bathroom. he’s a “nice guy” but your so cute she tells me. If only I was single and you were a little older she says. little flirting. then the guys comes in kind of upset. I say “it’s all good man. She’s just from the same place i’m from. your a very lucky man bro!… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

BRUUUUUUCCCCCEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

😀😀😀😀

one of my distant mentors.

fleezer
fleezer
4 years ago

“But if you have zero game or frame, your just retarding your progress the more you veer from hygienic and presentable. If this is the hill noobs want to die on, well you are gonna die on it.” agree. i’d sarge with Sentient and any other similarly put-together gentleman pussy slayer in high end joints every day of the week… if i could but i live in shit town. with millions of shitbags. and i fuck girls I don’t want to be seen with. not because they aren’t cherry, but because they’re super immature and borderline retarded i don’t currently… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Fleezer Come on man, you are too smart for this kind of thinking… Nothing I say here has anything to do with any kind of contrived James Bond shit, or what you think “oldman” game is… But if you have zero game or frame, your just retarding your progress the more you veer from hygienic and presentable. If this is the hill noobs want to die on, well you are gonna die on it. It’s a warning to noobs not to fully embrace the PUA mantra that looks don’t matter… Because at a basic level, and all noobs are at… Read more »

fleezer
fleezer
4 years ago

“That being said the primary reason for preferring friends of husbands was that they understood each other, closely followed by the key attribute of actually listening to what another person is saying. The full list of reasons can be read below. We can talk about everything (57%) She listens more (45%) I can tell her things I could not tell my partner (44%) We enjoy the same things (41%) We laugh until we cry (39%) I can truly be myself (29%) We go back much further (29%) She offers better advice (28%) She is less irritating (26%) We have much… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“what does it take to achieve basic access to those big pools of candidates?”

Tenure. Get paid as well.

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Sentient: LOL.

But nowadays the Professor would just get fired, surely.

That Indiana Jones scene is hilarious:

fleezer
fleezer
4 years ago

“Tenure. Get paid as well.” and while i’m at it i’ll turn some lead into gold just for fun. i’m thinking brothel owner instead. already have a great madam ready to go. funny how it always comes back to the oldest profession. is there really any other? the thought chain of a modern western female: “the fact that ashton kutcher basically dropped his career as an actor to create an organization to help stop sex trafficking and has saved over 6,000 victims and has identified over 2,000 abusers is so fucking badass i will forever have so much respect for… Read more »

boulderhead
4 years ago

This bill will move prostitutes back out in the open.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Weird occurrence on the dance floor…a hottie nipped my ear after a dance…probably was trying to be fun and maybe give me a thrill.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

“market tiers. expectations rise as girls age/experience rises. also as the average male in their social circle ages, so do his economic prospects increase, which in turn increases girls economic demands and at this point there are so many betas with means and the willingness to use it for her benefit that she can name her price” Only if you are in beta category in her mind. Then yes, expectations rise as you get older. If all she expects from you is the emotions you provide, then it doesn’t matter. HOWEVER, there is a nuance to this that I only… Read more »

scars
scars
4 years ago

So I had maybe 6 interactions last night which aren’t really worth writing about since they were kind of -non-events’/instant rejections, but man, one interaction is bugging me, because I felt I was kind of ‘in’ with some really hot, 18 year old Italian girl. I’m not sure if I done something wrong, or whether other ‘factors’ played a role. By ‘factors’ I mean: I kissed her friend a few weeks back. I’m assuming maybe her friend told her this. I don’t know. I also slept with another girl that she kind of knows (who WASN’T out last night), so… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

“the vibe would just change when she saw my place ”

This is where “fake it to you make it” fails. PUA fanboys will just say you needed more xyz… Think about HOW much xyz you would need if you have a micropenis… Lol. At a certain point there has to be something behind the act.

That does not mean money etc. It’s authenticity. Authenticity is the bedrock everything is built on. It’s the girl’s prime filter.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

Sentient – you seem like a guy with a point to make. So I’m gonna try again here (because I want to understand your point on this Authenticity thing). Are you saying to Culum Struan that the fail(s) he referenced are probably due to an incongruence borne of inauthenticity? Like perhaps he projected an image with the various women he was pursuing that was not in keeping with the lack of poshness of his personal environs, or something like that? Which would be another way of saying – ‘well – if CS were truly authentic in his interactions with said… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum said that himself.

One does not “project” an image, one simply exists. Once you are trying you lose authenticity.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Redlight house Try inserting the words “how to beat oneitis” into a Google Search. You’ll find concrete ideas. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3ip7vv/beating_infatuation_the_most_common_form_of/ And some abstract Ideas: https://therationalmale.com/2016/12/28/disassembling-oneitis I chuckled yesterday as I was discussing red pill ideas with a friend. He’s well put together and has a typical (for my environs) Anna Karenina principle happy family. My son and his were buddies growing up. I mentioned a few things and a light bulb went on over his brain. He said “Yeah, we should try to figure some of these inter-sexual principles out based on biology.” I responded with a comment, that, well actually… Read more »

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

@Everyone, FR: I could post a FR but it is somewhat redundant. It was my typical night out when I get into a club, but this time I had pretty good logistics (15 min walking to hotel from venue). Didn’t pull. Earlier in the day (day time) I’m going back to my hotel before dinner (meeting a friend for dinner) and 3 cuties are walking in front of me with luggage. I figure out “they must be going to my hotel”, so as they turn a corner I speed up to be closer to them. Then as they pass a… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

RedLight.

If you say “Hi.” to a 50 year old cashier, do you question “What others will think about me if I do this?”

No snark question.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

She’s accepting my kino why use the word “accepting”? was she the prize or were you the prize…sounds like an internal frame issue…sounds like her accepting your kino is some great prize for you instead of her getting your attention (kino or whatever) is a great prize for her…there goes that FI pushing on you again, lol occasionally she’s kind of pushing her thighs into my groin as she talks this is classic beta bait…you need to tell her to back off (in a nice way)…woooah, let’s keep this friendly (as you leer at her)…keep her mentally off balance…it’s not… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Redlighthouse “Whenever I try to do something, I always have the question on myself “What others will think about me if I do this?”” Do you realize how that is utterly, completely unattractive to girls? That is pure Beta, Average Frustrated Chump mindset and beliefs. You need to move towards Alpha. Put one foot in front of another in that direction. A classic resource for this is a book No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover. Dr. Robert Glover has dubbed the “Nice Guy Syndrome” trying too hard to please others while neglecting one’s own needs, thus causing unhappiness… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Gosh, while I’m at it and Redlighthouse is simple and young and is presenting to the triage unit for direction, another good article for him to use and understand. (It is a mirror of what some of us have done positively in our lives, but never really thought about the process.)

Have to start somewhere Redlighthouse! Hope is not a strategy. Take small steps in the right direction and Stop Hoping for a Completion of Anything in Life.

http://www.masculinedevelopment.com/slight-edge-will-transform-life/

j
j
4 years ago

Excellent breakdown @theasdgamer @IAS “Or grab one of them by hand, body language code to the friends that is only for a bit and try to get her to a quiet area (in this club, there was NO quiet area though).” yeah dance. occasionally spike her emotions, then at a high point in the interaction, give her an excuse to isolate her – “I’m thirsty, let’s go to the bar really” “oh I just remember this really funny thing happen to me earlier haha” wait for her to say “what” then “actually its to loud lets go over there and… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

game question from my experience last night… I have a guess about what was going on last night when a girl nipped my ear after a dance, then said that she had to go back to her bf…she was saying that she liked me and sex was on the table, but she saw the logistics as insurmountable…maybe hoping for a time when her bf isn’t around…of course, this probably means starting over from my standard preselection in my dance venue and she won’t be lit up until we dance…i.e., the window of opportunity will be temporarily closed the next time… Read more »

boulderhead
4 years ago

asd me thinks the logistics aren’t insurmountable if you kick her bf’s ass. Some little cuties love to start trouble.
Could be she pegged you for a bird dog and was setting you up for a game of cat and mouse.

Like you are setting us up for what is she thinking?,what was she thinking? is she thinking at all?does she eat ear wax when she is drinking?.

j
j
4 years ago

@theasdgamer If her bf is at the venue, I don’t see how you’d take her home that night. hmm actually a risky move, if you felt she was really on, I’d have told her to meet me outside and tell her to tell her bf that her stomach hurts and is catching a cab home. Then when she’s outside pick her up in your truck or catch a cab with her and go to a nearby motel. but the safer option, would be the standard number close and tell her to save your name as Jenny”. game her via text… Read more »

boulderhead
4 years ago

j,sizzle.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

Sentient – your comment:

“One does not “project” an image, one simply exists. Once you are trying you lose authenticity.”

So, for DPA, the Authenticity = flow?

But I thought that the Dynamism was more-so about flow (which becomes vigorous or energetic flow, once the Passion informs the Dynamism)?

Or does ‘one simply exists before any considerations around trying’ ….. mean something other than ‘flow’?

Maybe you mean by: ‘one simply exists before any considerations around trying’ = Authenticity, …….. something like ‘core being’ or something along those lines?

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Wild Man
April 8, 2018 at 3:51 pm

Did you get off on that mental masturbation? Because intellectualism is a buffer for you. Think less. Do more.

Sugar Babies are looking for Sugar Daddies. Culum’s situation and his dissection/explanation was straightforward. Ever hear of Occam’s Razor?

Make fewer assumptions/Buffer Less.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

SJF – Sentient and I have difference of opinion on DPA. He maintains DPA is independent of masculine principles, but I can’t see how DPA makes any sense whatsoever without the hard work of carving our masculine principles for oneself. I think Authenticity demands this hard work.

As such, I am requesting that Sentient better define ‘Authenticity’. The sugar baby/sugar daddy thing is just a segue into the DPA topic and kinda besides the point (as Sentient would know, by way of our last exchange).

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Wild man

Authenticity = Integrity confidence

PUA teaches algorithm techniques to guys who don’t have confidence in themselves.

The FI tells these guys to be themselves for easy filtering…right? We tell these guys NOT to be themselves but not to be someone else, you know?

We tell them to be the best confident version of themselves, not a facsimile of someone else and when they do this translates as unflappable congruity. Chick crack for one and men, though threatened sometimes, respect the steadiness.

Get it?

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Thanks, j. My biggest problem is real-time calibration. It’s an autism thing. Figuring out social rules and power games are easy for me. The nip on the ear after the dance was the first in a social situation and it rattled me a bit and was pretty sexual (the girl was very hot, in case anyone wonders). When I realized that it was just a sexual IOI, it was no big deal. I am used to being kissed under the ear after a dance and that seems to be something in a lot of girls’ rolodecks. The nip was a… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

SJF – Sentient and I have difference of opinion on DPA. He maintains DPA is independent of masculine principles, but I can’t see how DPA makes any sense whatsoever without the hard work of carving our masculine principles for oneself. I think Authenticity demands this hard work. What the Fuck are you talking about? Stop talking masculine babble hamstering. What the fuck does “the hare work of carving our masculine principles for oneself…” exactly fucking mean? You talk hard work. I talk lowering your barriers to success. You need Buffers. I don’t. Stop buffering because “Life is So Hard!”. It’s… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Authentic dude. http://www.elheraldo.hn/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=5Ms9hG7Jzx8ikZ8Z3rM28c$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYsCCIrzvR563N4cRcqwvz$e6FB40xiOfUoExWL3M40tfzssyZqpeG_J0TFo7ZhRaDiHC9oxmioMlYVJD0A$3RbIiibgT65kY_CSDiCiUzvHvODrHApbd6ry6YGl5GGOZrs-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg Authentic dude too. Time tells no lies. Authenticity boils down to knowing and being who you naturally are at your core. I’ve met a lot of people that struggled with authenticity for a variety of reasons, the most basic one was that they did not know who or what they were naturally, so they assumed an acceptable identity that would make life easier. The struggle comes when that pseudo identity isn’t fully internalized. Inner conflict on varying scales ensues, and can last an entire lifetime. I guess one could fake authenticity for other people to witness, but… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

jpeg fail.

1st authentic dude…..

comment image

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Say what you will about Charlie, but he never changed. Not even in the end.

j
j
4 years ago
SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Blaximus

You are over explaining in light of you being Natural.

So you are actually pontificating in a way that us OMG’s get criticized for being Abstract.

Well, the old Greek Maxim: Know Thyself. Still holds.

Know thyself first and then go on to enhance your strengths and minimize your weaknesses, because, in a recursive fashion, you know yourself.

And in knowing yourself, a simple tip is to know your preferences. As well as acknowledge your weaknesses and don’t feed or Buffer them.

Know Thyself. Advance your self.

Where the hell is kfg? He’s taking a siesta.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

EhIntellect – “Authenticity = Integrity confidence” …….”The FI tells these guys to be themselves for easy filtering…right? We tell these guys NOT to be themselves but not to be someone else, you know?” ……. “We tell them to be the best confident version of themselves, not a facsimile of someone else and when they do this translates as unflappable congruity”. Yes, got it (I think). Pretty sure you are saying that Authenticity demands the hard work hard work of carving out masculine principles for ones self (and I like your “respect the steadiness” reference – yes for men, ….’respect’ trumps… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Rupaul hasn’t carved out masculine principles.

In the manosphere ,that might be an objective goal, but authenticity is individual and specific to who one is.

The FI has an agenda that isn’t aligned with what 99% of men are authentically at their cores. The constant ” training ” and equalism espoused is in direct conflict with authenticity.

Usually, others cannot tell you who you are. Therapy is sometimes the exception to that rule.

Whoooooooo are you? Who..who..who..who….

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Wildman

Hard work? Sure….if you’re into self-flaggelation, automasochism.

You take pride n joy in overcomplication and fucking your own life up.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Wild Man

“DPA is Sentient’s concept, and I have noticed his cryptic style of posting seems to often insinuate that the DPA concept is not contingent on doing the hard work of carving our masculine principles for oneself. ”

Not cryptic, you just choose to keep adding on your modifiers.

Alpha is attractive to women. The irreducible elements of Alpha are dynamism, passion and authenticity.

These can be displayed absent whatever YOU think are masculine priciples. And hard work is not neccesary. You’ve heard of Naturals no?

So that is that. The rest are your word salads.

boulderhead
4 years ago

R Lighthouse Life is a double edged sword. full of paradox’s, gender dynamics has more of these than you can count on all your fingers and toes. I for one agree with sentient that try hard is not authentic while also agreeing with Blax and SJF. I don’t see anyone talking past rather giving their view from different perspectives. Here is mine,you can’t have the cake and eat it to,the world owes us nothing,rather we must earn it or take it,earning it will come with more longevity than taking. You should at some point go on a vision quest where… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Wild Man I got a few minutes, so I’ll try to give you one example from my own life experience to try to illustrate my pov. Without going into specifics, I was raised by a mom that was less than nurturing. Not her fault, she was young and immature when she had me. Fortunately for me, my father was a loving dad who was thrilled to have a son. Lol, he saved me from becoming a serial killer.😁 Because of my relationship to my mother from birth, I’d developed this weird attachment to women,/girls. I figured that I was looking… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Women can’t love men the way men want to be loved.

Who said dat????

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Wildman Here’s you as an analogy, so play along and don’t overcomplicate this: You’re fat. You want to lose weight. You decide to learn about food calorie counts and superfoods, metabolism and exercise techniques amd even rent a trainer, fill out a calendar and progress app on your cell phone to get you on your way. Lots of work, right? Or….. You become ok with being hungry all. the. time…..until you die. Thin. See the difference in self improvement as masturbating and self improvement as self control? What do you need more of: masturbation or self control? Dudes who are… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

You get off on the exoticifcation, touristification of life as it fits your wierd-assed addiction to rationalizations, constantly force fitting your life into the acceptable but convoluted BP polite world. Hard work = self control vs. filling your time with unnecessary thoughts, movements. Take home message? Don’t use Over-Intellectualization as a buffer to not get things done with The Law of Least Effort. Acceptance There are three components to the Law of Least Effort — three things you can do to put this principle of “do less and accomplish more” into action. The first component is acceptance. Acceptance simply means… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

Blaximus. Thanks for your personal anecdote. I can relate to that. What you outlined there is that you went through the process of identifying what your core attributes are, realized you had to find a way of interfacing with others that allowed expression for those core attributes (cause there is no way to deny them), in a way that brought success to yourself (which often turns out to bring success to the others around oneself as well). That whole process requires alot of self-awareness. That whole process wasn’t easy, like you say, precisely because it demands self-awareness, which is not… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

Sentient – your latest comment: “Alpha is attractive to women. The irreducible elements of Alpha are dynamism, passion and authenticity. …..These can be displayed absent whatever YOU think are masculine priciples. And hard work is not neccesary. You’ve heard of Naturals no?” Here are some thoughts for you to ponder: – how is one to interface with others without a method to do so? How is that method formed? Is the forming of that method developmental? (If you kneejerk towards saying – ‘hey man, I was born that way, interfacing with others, alpha-style’ you gonna loose all credibility Sentient, and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Wild Man

how is one to interface with others without a method to do so? Word salad… being in the corporeal realm is “method” enough wrt “interfacing”. So you might not like the outcomes… OK.

But that man is not gonna be lucky with respect to all the types of social interfaces that people are expected to engage in.

You could have just said “Naturals, I don’t know any…”

My point? That’s been made. I really have no idea what you are trying to do.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

‘Word salad’ is a cop-out. You now gonna make this about ‘flow’ again? (i.e. – your reference to being in the corporeal realm, as your prescription), without answering my earlier query as to how you see the flow state relating to the three components of DPA. I do know naturals (in the sexual-attraction aspect) ….. to a man they got other problems, often some of these problems stemming from their inability to deal with their unthinking successes within the sexual-attraction aspect. Sentient – maybe you can’t see masculinity holistically, and therefore can’t see alpha holistically. That’s what it looks like… Read more »

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

“Where the hell is kfg? He’s taking a siesta.” I wish. I’ve been dealing with a customer who wants me to dig him out of his 1980s data hole by digging him a new 1990s data hole. So, since he falls into the friend category, I’m doing two jobs – the one he’s paying me to do and the one he doesn’t want me to do but ought to be paying me to do (setting him up for clear sailing through the 2020s, and BEYOND, which would actually be cheaper and much, MUCH faster), so when he comes back crying… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Sentient – maybe you can’t see masculinity holistically, and therefore can’t see alpha holistically. That’s what it looks like to me. Thus your cryptic comments. Seems like you might even be celebrating the psychopathic. Not sure. Do you?

Lol.

Hat tip to Rian Stone in the Red Man Group round-robin Youtube discussion on Saturday mentioning the Wisdom of Psychopaths. book by Kevin Dutton.

Quick question for Wild Man: How many soccer balls is this guy showing?

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EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“Interface with others”

Wildman, you strap a cyborg eye and jetpack on yourself every morning.

That’s some of the LMFAO poorest understanding of human communication. You gotta step away from the computer, do fight club shit.

Interface….LMFAO.

He’s talking wierd Marrix talk. That’s not odd, that’s pseudointellectual but I hear it only among the college crowd generally, not so goofily then I don’t pay attention, but look for attempts to hit on women when they gt all smartypanty.

I’m not surprised people don’t believe Wildman qua him. You’re a bot.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“Celebrate the psychopathic”

LMFAO!

SJF: Pass me the tissues!

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

EhIntellect – Jeez. It’s the iternetz and all, so what am I gonna do? Huh? So, best just to cut to the chase. Your current line of drivel directed my way today: Pathetic. Is that your default? If so – you be pathetic. I’d be glad to sort that out one way or the other, and back that up if proven true, if given the chance. But internetz and all, what you gonna do? Ignore the pathetic is all I can really do.

fleezer
fleezer
4 years ago

“Long-term use of antidepressants is surging in the United States, according to a new analysis of federal data by The New York Times. Some 15.5 million Americans have been taking the medications for at least five years. The rate has almost doubled since 2010, and more than tripled since 2000. Nearly 25 million adults, like Ms. Toline, have been on antidepressants for at least two years, a 60 percent increase since 2010.” so what are the real numbers? can’t increase drug use like this without changing things in the smp easy to find out what she’s on. just come at… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

At least someone is paying attention.

newlyaloof
4 years ago

@wild man ,

Perhaps this summary of Sentient’s DPA will help you. I created a page for it so that I could review it from time to time:

https://newlyaloof.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/sentients-dynamic-passionate-authentic-framework/

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Why you here again? No snark.

Definitions?

If you can’t take a little blunt criticism. Yes, by all means buffer on, goofball.

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

@RedLightHouse:

Maybe you need a bit of Gran Torino before you can Fight Club.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Psychopaths are the ultimate optimists; they always think things will work in their favor. Sentient and EhIntellect are actually quite psychopathic. The the great benefit of their families. For the win. Dutton’s book at any rate supports the idea that to thrive a society needs its share of psychopaths – about 10%. It not only shows the value of the emotionally detached mind in bomb disposal but also the uses of the psychopath’s ability to intuit anxiety as demonstrated by, for example, customs officials. Along the way his analysis tends to reinforce the idea that the chemistry of megalomania which… Read more »

mersonia
4 years ago

@Redlighthouse

Escher your autism is showing again.

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

To the great benefit of their families.

mersonia
4 years ago

@Escherhouselight

I can get you the number to the national suicide hotline ,but I can’t save you lol

mersonia
4 years ago

@RedEsch

You can only be you.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

Women are on antidepressants because they don’t have a dick. Pay attention you pathetic young man-lings!

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Escher: 19yo. Chinese incel college kid who lives with parents who was banned a week ago.

RedLighthouse: 19yo. Chinese incel college kid.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Fine….

You wanna get laid. I get it.

What are you good at? Anything?

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“Seems like you might even be celebrating the psychopathic. Not sure. Do you? Wild Man, re-read this: https://therationalmale.com/2011/11/28/humanism-behaviorism-and-the-amorality-of-game/ And consider this from Kevin Dutton’s book: Qute: Or if you are a brilliant neurosurgeon, ruthlessly cool and focused under pressure, you might, like the man I’ll call Dr. Geraghty, try your luck on a completely different playing field: at the remote outposts of twenty-first-century medicine, where risk blows in on hundred-mile-an-hour winds and the oxygen of deliberation is thin: “I have no compassion for those whom I operate on,” he told me. “That is a luxury I simply cannot afford. In… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“I’m not in a hurry….” Interpretation: I’m like my incel life, I take pride in my suffering. Liar. You know somethjng? You can get laid without knowing yourself or trying too hard or getting much better than you are. It’s rather simple. PUAs teach it, you apply the steps and it works. Now you’ve cleaned up, combed hair. Next step get out there and: 1. look girls in the eye 2. wink at them 3. keep walking, unless one smiles back, then 4. you stop, shake her hand say hi and ask her name….straight up, that easy. It’s that easy.… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

newlyaloof – thanks for the link to the longer description of Sentient’s DPA. Yes – that is helpful. Hers is the quoted section I am scratching my head about: “Authentic – male truth, the counter to female truth which is emotion. Being who you are by living as you say. This is independent of any moral judgement. Authenticity is the bedrock of leadership. So when you declare to drive your enemies from their land, raze their buildings and salt their fields you mean it AND you do it. Walking the talk even when difficult” ‘Being who you are by living… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“you choose to live as a hermit or a psychopath, both of which lifestyles discount the ‘consensual realities’ aspect, to the detriment of the subject”

Consentual realities? Huh?

“and secondarily you gotta seek to know how that fits in with other’s perspectives”

Wrong

I need to know how I fit in with others?
To what end?

“Sentient balks at that chance. ”

Clearly, you’re sweet on him. He a rather handsome bearded fellow if you’re into that.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

EhIntellect – wow you be one kooky guy. Degenerate?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Oh boy…

Wild Man – go on and list your mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive list of “masculine principles”… and what you will see is a) a large percentage of them will not be attractive to women and b) there will be so many exceptions to the rule that the rule will be pointless.

and really you shouldn’t do this in the FR thread. this is for FR’s… So move along.

Someone so invested in “consensual realities” should get that…

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

@ RedLight

Atta boy.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

@ Wildman

Getting sweet on me now?

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

Sentient – like I already pointed out – you not straight man. Showing more of that here. Misdirection so you can avoid coming clean on your own incongruencies, with respect to your use of your own concepts. Best that people who may be taking your advice know that. Judgement around masculine principles is gonna be a contest. The wider social sphere (mainly the men) are gonna make that judgement. We are social animals – that’s the way it works buddy. You probably already know my principles (got kicked off here probably two years ago for spelling those out). This time… Read more »

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

“Misdirection so you can avoid coming clean on your own incongruencies, with respect to your use of your own concepts.”

Ooooooooooooooh, the irony.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

“Judgement around masculine principles is gonna be a contest.”

Cosign.

Wildman vs. everyone else

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Btw your insults are multivitamins and calling me degenerate is super nice but you gotta stop.

Fleezer mght get jealous.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

OK Eh – I’ll humor you – from now on you’re Ehlen Degenerate (you know – in keeping with your gay shtick).

IRL
IRL
4 years ago

Whoa… leave you alone for a while… Ok, I’m slowly catching up… @Sentient et al. Mystery Method… back to ‘going deeper’… What Archie said: Shades of grey, overlapping circles, nothing is strictly linear – but that’s essentially calibration. Give the girl want she needs at the time to get to the next level. This linearity/sequencing is my main thing with MM. I agree A->C->S is a solid structure, solves many problems (with “comfort first” for most guys) and is rooted in intersexual dynamic. I wouldn’t call it fundamental though. It’s not that sometimes you can skip comfort and it works… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

SJF – career-wise, you do some kind of surgery – right? What type of surgery do you do? The reason I am asking, is that I had a run in with a neurosurgeon recently. I came away with the very strong impression that neurosurgeons should not be trusted to recommend any sort of post-surgery patient-care protocols. But they got dibs on those calls, when it comes to protocols stemming from pathology occurring downstream from the surgery, even when that pathology is due to the ramifications of trauma caused by the surgery itself, and in this way have dominance over the… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

“I would like to then know what your opinion is on this impression of mine, that neurosurgeons should not be trusted to recommend any sort of post-surgery patient-care protocols.” Now that would depend entirely on the praxeology of their protocol and “what works” to resolve the medical complication. A car mechanic should be judged by the quality of how he reliably fixes your car. Not by his moral squeamishness or how much empathy and love he showed in fixing your car. The proof is in the outcome. Patients often use “bedside manner” as a metric (with their amygdala in play)… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Wild man

How old are you, the size of town you live in, your sexual history?

That might help us understand you better.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Oh, why am I degenerate? I want to live up to my billing.

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

No SJF – you are misunderstanding again (like always it seems), or projecting something about feelings onto me (that is getting old fast … makes me start to wonder if you and others here that perceive me that way have weird issues around feelings, of your own, or something – I dunno – I can’t really know that unless I actually know you – but come’on buddy that be ditto for you too – right?). Anyway – I’m not gonna go into too many details here because I don’t want to dox myself. But this neurosurgeon counseled actions (and later… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
4 years ago

Ehlen Degenerate – I didn’t say so you self-centered cunt. You said so (or at least you said you liked the label).

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

Anyway – I’m not gonna go into too many details here because I don’t want to dox myself. SJF – you never answered whether you are a surgeon. What kind of doctor are you? LOL. Compare and Contrast. Compare means to see the similarity and contrast means to see the difference. Stop with your fucking whining about psychopathy. Game is amoral. (And no, that does not mean is is amoral. Dark Triad Traits facilitate game. Do you even read Rollo, bro? Why don’t you just tie the two lobes of your brain behind your back and whine about engaging socially… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Wildman, The medical world runs by the same dynamic as any. You need to take a step back from your overanalysis and stop fighting the world. You see injustice and strike out at it in futility. By all means, hate perpetually on a faceless medical, legal, corporate bureaucracy. What do you think you will prove? Honestly, what’s your incentive, your benefit, there shaking your fist at Sentient, SJF, me, neurosurgeons, one in particular and many in general? You’re trying to learn all the matrix rules and then claim you’re living a smarter life while still playing their game. They don’t… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
4 years ago

Oh what in particular makes me degenerate?

Details, details as then we can look a little more into your value system.

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