For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@j I assume that’s your comment? https://rivsdiary.wordpress.com/2018/04/15/goldmunds-shit-test/#comment-3899 I like the approach that leaves room for both attraction and comfort (or doesn’t cost you more comfort later). But I’m wondering what makes you think she needs the latter so early in the interaction. Her questioning him twice? Him not going anywhere with his cockiness? I find this bit ambiguous, we’re working with 2-3 tweets and G insinuates condescension (may as well be his ego). Describe to a non-natural how you feel torque… lol Or maybe your interactions look like that anyway: don’t let her value drop too much below yours, just… Read more »
@Sentient
Hmm… your interaction reads different. She wasn’t dismissive, her BT was high and she was trying to make you chase her. I don’t think G’s girl was there yet. You’d still have to do some work after delivering your line (and subcomms etc.) in his situ. But… the fucker didn’t provide a full FR, just tweeted to get a line for line… lol
IRL
Sure, but because I already blew up her attitude on the open with a nuclear neg.
In the Goldmund situation… if this line from her was in the beginning, OK IOD from her… IOD from you then… “we’ll see how you play your cards” serves that purpose… then DHV… He has no capital G game from what I can see from his blog.
“The words aren’t as important as the understanding that you know what’s up, she knows what’s up and she knows you know what’s up… someone else commented on that subcomm I think. The seal the deal component is after the line, you are chill, unphased and you keep drawing her into your frame. Good place for a DHV story “so check this out”” https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-80/#comment-247976 “But I’m wondering what makes you think she needs the latter so early in the interaction.” I don’t think he got these shit test early in the interaction. I mean how would a girl figure out,… Read more »
a 10 will not react the same way as a 6 Ya: “a lot of guys panic when they meet a 10. Because a 10 won’t give them the same blatant approval that a 6 will give them. So when they say something funny to a 6, she’s all “OMG LOLOLOL” and touching them and practically sucking their dick. So they think “okay, a girl has to react like that for me to know what I did has attracted her.” But then they meet a 10 and they do the same thing to her as they did to the 6,… Read more »
” Her approval is in her not walking away or leaving the set or outwardly rejecting you…like it’s an implicit “I’m here, so of course I’m attracted” thing.” “ Yassss……. Okay, time for what a crazy old man thinks as what passes for hints and tips. I do the reverse of what J stated above, in that I talk to “6’s” and ” 10’s ” the exact same way. With girls that are used to be treated like they are the absolute shit, lol, The ” IOI ” i’m looking for is subtle ” compliance ” initially, then I look… Read more »
Ha. There’s a reason why I like Salma Hayek, and it’s not just her boobs either ( although…YEAH!!!! ).
http://energy106.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/salma-hayek.png
I know, I know, ” old chicks “. She’s 51 and counting.
http://33.media.tumblr.com/30771a7de98ca1a36865992a9990499f/tumblr_n9uo0pFxES1rxxq6eo1_500.gif
….. and where was his camera?
Okay, I’m done clogging the feed with pics and shit.
Mystery shows the way in a classic. Watch her eyes at the end.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SqFo2UIzZ18
Blax… All your little roll offs and compliance tests and diagnostics are pure MM…
That Guy Mystery might be on to something. Lol.
But that’s the thing, that chick did.not.move. No matter what wordz came out of her mouth, her actions spoke louder. Good shit.
And although mystery seems a little stilted ( probably on purpose ) he kept engaging in different ways. So even if your response to a shit test is ” Cuisinart “, the fact that she’s still standing there tells you all you need to know….. until your obliviousness blows everything.
thoughts on this article?
https://www.sashapua.com/direct-vs-indirect-the-truth-revealed-by-ryan/
jejckel
It’s for-profit deliberate mischaracterization or retardation.
This guy will be selling Indirect – The Master Level Game in 12 months…
In the meantime CLICK HERE! for his latest more!! https://www.sashapua.com/7-sins-download-2
@Blax: I think Salma used to be gorgeous. She still looks very good now, but not even close to what she used to.
Good thread on Sedfast… may help some of you. https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/rookie/319845-why-folks-fail-at-the-3sr-mystery-method-part-1-delivery So, I wanna say this is not a shit talking post , this is stuff I that i fucked up with and it wasnt til I took an infield with a guy who can do MM extremely well(Colgate) that I was able to practice and get the method working for me (well qualification is still a work in progress ,sporadic) anyhow I suspect a lotta you guys have tried to use mystery method after reading the book and you come to find out that it does not work at all… Read more »
The whole interaction (clip above jump cuts after the open)
Starts at 40:20 and ends at 1:03…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC8X-btgrzk
Watch the open, the hook, the roll off/compliance test, the bounce, the lock in, the phase shift, kino, more DHV’ing… etc.
This is how it works… the typical guy will be so excited his open has hooked, he won’t take the “bold” step of compliance testing/bouncing. Need to get used to that.
Wow 8,000 + comments 🙂 Good job!
Subtle compliance. I like to move a chick around, even if it’s only a few feet. I’ll move to her left or right a few times and see if she shifts along with me, or does she start looking away or get bored – but you gotta be saying some shit to her that she doesn’t hear or get everyday, even from all of those so-called ” cool ” guys that she has around her pursuing her. I’ll be in the middle of a thought, and I’ll lean in a little like I’m going to start whispering in her ear.… Read more »
she says to me now “you know nothing is going to happen here right?”
[deadpan look]: “No promises from me either way.” That’s the pro approach. Lots of aloofness and you’re telling her that you have no investment in the interaction. She will know that she has to play her cards right. Better not to be so explicit. Cat language is nonverbal.
Please don’t kj ASD…
[gonna separate this into two comments] @Sentient Not gonna lie I’ve seen that clip get linked a bunch of time here but never bothered to watch it until just now haha. Great job by Matador getting rid of the chode…Making her invest by sharing her “profound moment” This is actually something I’ve just now started doing in 2018. I was so used to talking and talking and talking I’ve had to remind myself “J, stop interrupting her, shut the fuck up and let her talk/invest goddamn it”. and nice emotionally stimulating topic with the days in a lifespan shit. My… Read more »
Gunwitch: “The game is a 3 legged table of attraction phase: social frame, sexual arousal, emotional stimulation. 3 Keys. Miss a key you lose a knee. You fall over. Social Frame: (frame control, contrasting, curiosity gambits, baiting, open-loops, qualifying, non-judgmental framing, etc) Emotional Stimulation: (teasing, “spiking”, time distortion, “story-telling”, trance/state induction via lush verbal description, cold-reads, etc) Sexual Arousal: (sex-talk, sex jokes, sexual framing, sexual prepping, innuendo, etc) Some techniques have a bit of over-lap and implement more than one key at once, so a Venn-diagram might be necessary. Social frame and Emotional stimulation minus sexual arousal. You approach her… Read more »
J I wish someone would break down the entire clip… So much there. I was so used to talking and talking and talking I’ve had to remind myself “J, stop interrupting her, shut the fuck up and let her talk/invest goddamn it”. The next clip, investment is upped, he sends the woman to go get him a cigarette… Next time have the girl go get you a drink… play with that kind of investment. Mystery was all about slow playing the seduction though, upping the investment by her, merging sets and developing jealousy the plot lines, which further up the… Read more »
lol @ Sentient
4:20
straight from the horse’s mouth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zx93SKjueA
Also Lmao @ 1:56. Daily reminder to never listen to girl’s advice on seducing them
Sentient thinks I’m kj’ing, lol.
Last time I said, “Let’s go to my truck and chat, but no promises, one way or the other,” the girl tried to talk me into having sex with her within a couple of minutes.
Very similar situation to a girl who says, “you know nothing’s gonna happen, right?”
You could also reply, “With you?” [and shrug like it’s no big deal] Preselection.
(The girls in Manley’s video were generally about as attractive as many girls I dance with. He was kissing a 7 at the end.)
ASD
So you are not having sex [or making out] with 7’s. Got it. Good FR.
@Sentient
Yep, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. My experience is valid, and my advice is as well. Blax’s advice is also very good. I’m not some incel 29 year old blogging about game theory.
Well you are a truthful guy.
But
That’s the pro approach.
A pro? Let’s not confuse the already confused here. Just say – “I did this and that happened” – is enough. People will judge your bona fides and professional status.
“To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth”…one of my favorite books. Nobody’s really a pro at mating…except hookers…because they get paid to do it. If I haven’t fucked many girls, it’s because I haven’t wanted to, not for lack of feminine interest. I’ve been propositioned probably over ten times during my lifetime…for sex, not just a date. And I really don’t care if that ruins my rep in some people’s eyes. I’m doing what I want to and I don’t have to fuck a bunch of skanks just so some fool will idolize me. I’ve had 15-20 makeouts with… Read more »
I’ve been trying to help a friend attain some game and it’s been frustrating to say the least. Thus far I’ve shared concepts with him but for the most part he’s unwilling to truly take the dive and discover / swallow the red pill himself even despite the success he’s experienced in this new approach. It’s fun to discuss game / RP stuff with him and we enjoy hanging out so it’s been cool. Recently he met a “green light girl” for him a month ago after not having much luck getting relationships off the ground and all seemed to… Read more »
ASD
Keep digging I guess. How’s your Mandarin?
@Sentient Ahh I remember this clip. When I watched it for the first time quite a while ago, it looked so boring: this strange PUA guy mentioning he needs to talk about something and then not saying anything, just jumping from one topic to another, no content. And yet he manages to get her focused on him by talking about the number of days in a lifetime… didn’t compute… lol… (I discarded this fact too… didn’t fit my narrative… Mystery didn’t get the girl so of course his shtick wasn’t the right thing to do… shaking my head now). Today,… Read more »
“Sentient thinks I’m kj’ing, lol.” “If I haven’t fucked many girls, it’s because I haven’t wanted to, not for lack of feminine interest.” Definitions (via NextASF): 1-PUA (guy who can get laid consistently from cold-approaching girls, and who regularly fucks new hot girls purely based on his game) 2-Player (guy who is getting laid with hot girls from approaches or dates and can get laid purely based on game, even if not as consistently or as fast as a PUA) 3-rAFC (the recovering AFC, would be the AFC or monogamous guy who is trying to better himself with women. So… Read more »
@Blaximus
you gotta be saying some shit to her that she doesn’t hear or get everyday
This (with the Cat-o-nese dance context) sounds like a great FR material.
Whenever you’re ready… scray’s not watching… lol
@Catchers
“he can’t help himself and replies within 15 minutes of receiving her text with a wall of text – no response from her.”
brutal haha. your assessment is spot on. Nothing to add. send your friend this:
https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/hall-of-fame/3698-relationship-rules-3-0
@CatchersIndifference My Thoughts? I’ve seen this scenario in play before. First of all the guy can’t accept red pill. He thinks girls will be sugar and spice and all things nice, if he just Games well with good Game technique. He has to be disabused of reverting to Blue Pill Ideals. Sure it’s fun to discuss Game/RP stuff with him, because he feels you are giving him cheat codes to get the girl. But if he still sees things with his Blue Pill lenses, he can’t keep up with her. She’s going to be able to game him or ditch… Read more »
alright now it’s time to get ready to head out and give one of these lucky girls what they really want:
https://twitter.com/Anonyphant/status/987011176499298304
@Sentient
I wish someone would break down the entire clip… So much there.
I see what you did there…
Just kidding…
Not exactly what you’re asking for, but here Mystery talks about many nuances from that clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYw-Xtc94eo
Also, he’s at a different level in this lecture. Great delivery. Listen to both the content and HOW he speaks, treats his students, takes specific statements/questions from them…
@j in response to Catchers. Great list of things for Relationship Game in J’s link from NextASF: In a relationship: – Have zero expectations of her. If you EVER feel disappointed, it’s because of your expectations. If she doesn’t hold up her end of the relationship, you don’t get upset; you punish her or Next her. – Always remain positive. You can have bad moods, but don’t let her see them. Your duty is to LEAD the relationship in a positive direction. Her job is to support you (via sex, cooking, etc.), NOT to coddle your shitty emotions. If you… Read more »
I have my own set of definitions, j. lol My sex life is as frequent as I want it to be. Probably as often as most married 20-somethings (2-3 times a week). My social life is about: 1. exercise (cardio, etc.) 2. improving my social skills (e.g., learning to calibrate people real time) 3. learning about women 4. practicing improv 5. improving my ability to tell jokes 6. practicing generating A2 (I get frequent shit testing and I pass the tests) 7. compliance testing 8. etc. most of these things require game skills…yet for some reason you insist that I… Read more »
IRL
Man, watching the mystery clip, I’m always completely fascinated.
The guy has so much detail for stuff that I still can’t fathom having detail for.
“My sex life is as frequent as I want it to be. Probably as often as most married 20-somethings (2-3 times a week).” Married Red Pill sex is not that often. But it is fun. And quality. I’ve been frustrated and I can’t actually function at my best at lest than 3X per week. I didn’t have a choice in the old days. New days, after more red pill mastery? Yes. But the median is 3X per week. 4X is over the top and leads to backlash. Shit, I was somewhat reassured that Blaximus does it 3X a week, as… Read more »
Learning. It’s what’s for dinner for the unlearned. Late in life.
Shit happens. That’s why guys invented the Manosphere.
I’m on my father and son holiday but I wanted to come in here quickly and talk about something I observed yesterday. I’d taken my 6 year old to a kids art class activity – helps them to be creative kind of thing. So he’s drawing next to a couple of girls around the same age who are working together. He does not know them or anyone else there since we are not in our home city. He tries to make friends with them and talk to them and mostly gets ignored when he tries to help them or make… Read more »
@TheMarquis What are you getting at? What are you thinking? This stuff does change as boys get older. The have influences outside of you telling him to stop 7 year old uninhibited boy behavior. During teenage years when hormones come in to play, he will actually not think saliva is so yucky and crave getting a taste of it. Then an attempt to civilize the toxic boy masculinity out of him. (On your part you are going to have to teach him discipline. On their part they are going to try to teach him not to fuck girls.) You’ll have… Read more »
Marquis
What SJF said… And this
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/10/16/the-son-becomes-the-satyr/
PS – he will face the same pressure from onlookers when he is 22 etc. White knights/rivals/fugs… Nature is competition and it is fierce.
A reading from the book The Wisdom of Psychopaths: (Not Sociopaths you silly Blue Pill guy) SEVEN SUPERSANITY Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!” —HUNTER S. THOMPSON Generation P At the back of the chapel of Magdalen College, Oxford, there sits a prayer board. One day, amid the numerous petitions for divine intervention, I noticed this one: “Lord, please make… Read more »
More: Saint Paul—The Patron Saint of Psychopaths Harrington’s inclusion of saints on the list is no accident. It’s also no one-off. Throughout his book, the cool, iridescent prose is littered with comparisons between psychopaths and the spiritually enlightened. Not all of them his own. He quotes, for instance, the physician Hervey Cleckley, whom we met in chapter 2, compiler, in his 1941 classic The Mask of Sanity, of one of the first clinical descriptions of psychopathy: “What he [the psychopath] believes he needs to protest against turns out to be no small group, no particular institution, or set of ideologies,… Read more »
Hey I’m going golfing today. So this: Quote: “Seeing Red Swings It for the Champion The ability to smile in the face of adversity has long been regarded as a measure of spiritual intelligence. Take, for instance, the words of the poet Rudyard Kipling, the last thing you see as a player before stepping out onto center court at Wimbledon: “If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same …” But though such a mind-set is usually associated with saints, the link with psychopaths is somewhat less often conjectured. In 2006, Derek Mitchell… Read more »
Life and Golf are not a Game of Perfect. Some tips from Bob Rotella’s book Golf is not a game of Perfect: https://martchap.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/my-summary-of-bob-rotellas-golf-is-not-a-game-of-perfect/ 1. Dream! 2. Think your ball to the target, focus on it during your pre-shot routine and trust your swing. 3. Keep a “hot-streak mentality”, remembering how you felt during a good phase of play – loose and confident. 4. Don’t think about technique on your shot swing. 5. Aim for a small, elevated, specific target (a twig on a distant tree for example) and keep it in mind as you swing. (This has been particularly effective… Read more »
“Even if this guy is Alpha, and want’s to operate as Blue Pill. Blue Pill idealism will get him put in a Beta Appearance.” @Catcher A very similar thing happened with my son recently. He got burned because of his blue pill ideals. It was a short term thing, only lasted about 3 weeks while the girl’s boyfriend had taken a break from her. Dude was probably spinning his own plates and she was using my son for her own emotional needs and validation. As soon as this girl’s other guy was back in the scene she ghosted my son.… Read more »
More: Quote: “In the same year that Klasen was playing video games, Kent Kiehl dusted off that eighteen-wheel fMRI juggernaut of his and hit the roads of New Mexico armed with a new experiment. Kiehl was interested in what, precisely, makes psychopaths tick when it comes to moral decision making. Are they really ice-cold under pressure? Are they really better at coming up with the goods when the chips are down and time is of the essence? If so, why? Could it possibly be something that’s hardwired into their brains? A triumph of cold-blooded cognitive reasoning over warm-blooded emotional processing?… Read more »
FR focusing on one set Got to my country bar around 10pm. I’m ready to bring value to people. I say hi to bouncers and the cashier as I stroll in. They wave me on in. I walk and look to see who’s there. Say hi to a few people. I stop and talk to a slavic wannabe player. He’s teachable, but I have to present the info carefully. We’re chatting, then a girl pulls him away for something. Another girl comes up (I’ll call her X) and asks me to teach her to dance. I don’t know her from… Read more »
I did a cool compliance test with a girl after she asked me to dance and after a bit said, “You’re fun.” “Let’s go dance around the floor with various groups.” She and I did just that, freestyling. I could have followed that up with getting her to try to get a makeout on the dance floor with another girl and do a sneaky grabass prank on one of my buddies.
“I could have followed that up with getting her to try to get a makeout on the dance floor with another girl and do a sneaky grabass prank on one of my buddies.”
http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-there-s-no-such-thing-as-coulda-shoulda-or-woulda-if-you-shoulda-and-coulda-you-woulda-pat-riley-56-25-24.jpg
how you post those gifs, J? i got a tile to go up
@theasdgamer – I know you mean everything you say sincerely, but I would suggest you think a little bit – without preconceived notions if possible – about why every other man in this thread is telling you the same thing and you are disagreeing with all of us (I haven’t posted an opinion this time but I basically agree with what everyone else is saying, more or less). Yes it is possible that we are all wrong and you are right. Obviously I don’t think so, but it is possible. But either way it may be of some benefit to… Read more »
PS – I should add by the way that you are not the only one doing this. @hank when he was posting more (yo dude, where are you? how’s the losing virginity going?) had a tendency to do this as well and for similar reasons. I was less concerned about hank’s advice though because even though he didn’t fully understand what he was saying, he was generally an accurate facsimile or summary of YaReally’s advice on whatever the newbie’s question was. And YaReally knew what he was talking about so the potential damage was much more limited..
lol @ Culum making shit up…nobody has criticized my analysis…(The only criticism is that I’m somehow a kj because, although I use game a lot when I’m out, I don’t have a right to speak about game because I’m exclusive…and if I don’t have a right to speak about game because I’m exclusive, then neither do the other OMGs who are exclusive)…on the contrary, my analysis is generally affirmed. So either prove your assertion that my analysis of the Goldberg failure is in error or fuck off. This is yet another example of the PUAs saying that OMGs can’t talk… Read more »
@Culum
You think highly of YaReally. Show me where YaReally ever criticized my game analysis. I dare ya. He knew that I’m out and about and doing the work.
@theasdgamer “I probably get to A2 faster than anyone else here because I’m gaming the entire bar.” This is what I’m talking about. Who gives a fuck about getting to A2 faster. The objective is P in V. That’s what the guys that come here for advice want. Sex (with a hot chick). Not validation (yeah that HB7 would have totally banged me guys haha). And it just so happens that this “overcoming ASD or LMR, so we shouldn’t try to speak authoritatively on those topics” is a HUGE part of getting P in V. My main wing has taken… Read more »
And it just so happens that this “overcoming ASD or LMR, so we shouldn’t try to speak authoritatively on those topics” is a HUGE part of getting P in V.
Which, of course, is so totally relevant to Goldmund’s shit test failure.
You PUAs aren’t looking for accurate suggestions about game…you’re just whining because someone else might be better at game than you are…game is more than P in V…although that’s one of the spinoffs of having game…dam, I must be channeling Blax again…
Guys that saw him take her out of the club probably assumed he fucked her
“It’s fuck or walk pal. You close, or you hit the bricks. You wanna work here? CLOSE!” – GGR
ASD is ego buffering… sad.
“you’re just whining because someone else might be better at game than you are…”
http://i.imgur.com/x1FrHvW.gifv
“game is more than P in V”
I want to fuck women. Everybody I hang with (puas and normies) wants to fuck women. If we are completely honest with ourselves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Whys), just about everything we do is for sex and that’s perfectly fine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjqXKgk5b18
it just so happens some of us like the fuck a variety of girls (PUAs) instead of banging the same bitch over and over and over again haha (OMGs) and that’s cool too I guess.
Wassmatta Sentient? Didn’t I give you a cookie?
Blax and the other OMGs probably figure that arguing with the PUAs is a waste of time, which it is.
So go do your P in V thing if that gets your rocks off, lol. Mrs. Gamer wants attention.
I’m eating a turkey sammich.
” carb free ” bread must be sawdust compressed with elmers wood glue.
Good thing I still had half a loaf of Portuguese roll from yesterday. 2 cheat days instead of 1.
@ IRL
… See why I stopped?
Blax
I totally coulda had a turkey sandwich man…
If we are completely honest with ourselves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Whys), just about everything we do is for sex
Like that camping trip or bike ride you took with just the fellas…whatevafloatsurboatman
@theasdgamer – someone *has* criticized your Game analysis: me. The others are saying you’re KJing and I agree, and I am adding that that KJing is the reason your Game analysis is wrong. It’s actually not because you’re exclusive or you’re older or whatever. That’s a red herring. Blax and HABD are both exclusive and their Game analysis is spot on. Both of them are 50+ and I think Sentient is around 50 too. Their Game analysis is spot on. Basically: 1. Your advice (and understanding of Game generally) is often wrong and is a mishmash of Game concepts that… Read more »
@Culum
I’m not confused by ASD’s comments I scroll past them, and have done so ever since the story where he thought a girl at the doctors office giving him the eye (that was it) was significant (for a newbie maybe).
A fair few approaches last night which always makes me happier the morning after. Nothing worse than regretting making no approaches due to AA! No joy again. Gonna need some luck to get laid again this year!! I feel it lol Main approach from my memory was on 2 stunning blonde girls who I opened with my friend. Up there with the worst ‘shields’ i’ve ever seen haha. They were Lithuanian, but their reaction was just how you imagine some stereotypical 10/10 in LA might be, Utter contempt lol! Sort of like they were Royalty. Opened her and she Looked… Read more »
Two whole minutes huh?
wow.
lol.
Since you mention Mark Manson, them girls sound like definite ‘No girls’ and would only talk back if you were Ryan Goslin. Even 2 minutes is too long to waste on them. Move on fast and find someone who likes you back
“We both gave up ”
This is it right here. You saw your approach was working, she was goinh from Zero to 1 to 2… Progression.
So you went to the gym, couldn’t move 315 off the rack. And quit…
How will this ever end? You can’t skip arm day, chest day and leg day…
http://www.myfitnesscloset.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/arnoldchest.jpg
Arnold became ARNOLD by just doing the easy reps…
Not.
Phil… Just don’t be retarded. No to you is not NO to all…
I think ‘retarded’ is wasting time on a girl who is barely speaking back and is scanning the room the whole time and is clearly not remotely into you, personally.
@philconnors
It’s a waste of her time because you’re not remotely interesting and lack confidence
@scars 1:55 This should be your attitude when approaching no girls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UCisrvgjlU&t= Friday I approached a french girl dancing be herself and she immediately rejected me. her friend saw that i was persisting a little bit, so she jumped into in give me the classic “we’re lesbians” line. So I replied, “oh no I’m actually gay, I chopped my dick off. it’s fine” her friend laughs. “I just wanted to dance with her” I say. Then I look at the girl I originally approached and she still wasn’t open, so I continued to game her friend. I asked her where… Read more »
@ChunkyMonkey
Lmao
@J – Yeah, that’s kind of what I tried to do. Teasing and plowing and stuff but it clearly wasn’t happening with them. Not to worry. Julien didn’t end up getting the ‘no’ girl in the infield I referenced either so I don’t feel too bad lol. Stunning looking girls, though! Never met a Lithuanian girl before.
[…] I mentioned on the thread and over @ Rollo’s, I’ve been “trolling” […]
It’s nice to come to a place online where guys talk about game, with differing opinions that are actually informed, by both practice and theory.
@scars
I like that you are approaching (only?) girls that are your personal 10. That’s what I’ve been doing the past two weeks (I’m 0 for 2 so far haha). Talked to I think a total of only 4 girls this week, when I used to go around approaching everyone to build state first, then go for the hottest girls:
https://nextasf.com/forum/nextasf/general/310452-the-most-straightforward-way-to-level-up
My main wing has recently stumbled upon the work of Alan Roger Currie (specifically his book “Oooooh . . . Say it Again: Mastering the Fine Art of Verbal Seduction and Aural Sex”) this month and has been experimenting with dirty talking. At first there were a lot of awkward sets like girls leaving immediately and taking their friend with them. I’d be like “dude what the fuck man” lol. BUT. Every so often, he told me girls would squirm and cross their legs (cause they’re wet he told me) looking down and getting all shy and shit that he… Read more »
@Culum someone *has* criticized your Game analysis: me. The others are saying you’re KJing and I agree, and I am adding that that KJing is the reason your Game analysis is wrong. Your “criticism” amounts to one hand fapping. So, you don’t add value and go on my scroll list. Like CM. I’ve never been impressed with your analysis, unlike j or HABD or Blax. Sentient is good sometimes and sometimes off. Monkey’s opinion has as much value as yours–zip. J has almost always affirmed my analysis. I figure he’s banging the kj drum because he thinks that Field Reports… Read more »
It’s a waste of her time because you’re not remotely interesting and lack confidence
Bingo.
”It’s a waste of her time because you’re not remotely interesting and lack confidence”
Me or scars? Eiter way; incorrect. If you appraoched you’d know that you can’t get all girls, but I think you’ve read too many pua books lol
@J
Not only approaching 10’s to be honest, but a few of my recent FR’s just happened to have been on super hot girls (like the Lithuanians). I also tried my luck with a fair few 6’s last night! 🙂
I’ve seen a young guy with about fourteen lays who is just very rude to almost everybody and very few young girls pay him any attention–just the older broads will fuck him…so phil’s problem might be social proof…i.e., rudeness…anti-game
@j
@ChunkyMonkey
Lmao
the sound of one hand fapping
XD
Are you guys confusing me with someone? I don’t have any problems lol. I haven’t even posted an FR?
Well, I’m thinking about a nice brisket myself.
@jejckel “Limiting Belief 1: You have to “create attraction” BEFORE you can telegraph interest, qualify or sexually escalate.” You don’t have to. It’s good practice. What I learned from watching naturals and guys who fuck a lot (not the same thing), is that a good telegraph of interest/qualification/or sexual escalation can CREATE ATTRACTION. – Hey good looking – or something along those lines – that can sometimes break a chick out of her mental shell – and she responds favorably – “instantly”. But there will always be a question of sub-communication. – We would never work out – Again, the… Read more »
“I also subtly amoged him by saying “I think he likes you a lot. You should dance with him” lol. I think it worked very well. Soon chode turned around and fucked off. I asked my girl “would he be OK we grab a drink for 2 mins?” She said of course.”
CLASSIC
@Philconnors
Usually if someone tags you they’re talking to or about you..
but common sense isn’t common
@Mersonia
But I didn’t post a FR? lol – You’re a confused dude
Since you mention Mark Manson, them girls sound like definite ‘No girls’ and would only talk back if you were Ryan Goslin. This comment shows a lot of misunderstanding. Where I dance, most girls will talk to me even if they won’t dance with me. If they won’t even talk to you, then you have some social problem. Now I’ll digress, following the rabbit trail of why some, er, a few girls who are regulars won’t talk to me… Girls who are regulars won’t talk to me for one of the following reasons: 1. I’m married and they disapprove of… Read more »