For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
““The girl was following a strange man.” Daddy, boss, big brother aren’t strange men.” total stranger? yes. but he is confident, attractive, well put together and older. it was daytime in public in a nice neighborhood. he is her neighbor. he is social and polite. he knows cool stuff to do in the community. she obviously felt safe. older men often signal protector despite the commanding words they speak. of course they pull younger, but the initial vibe is “he won’t rape and kill me” because my dad and older brother wouldn’t rape and kill me. “I think that Krauser,… Read more »
@Culum Nor have you sourced it, which leads me to assume you just made it up. That’s okay – it’s fine to use a made up number for illustrative purposes when making an argument – but you need to be careful not to build an edifice of seemingly solid numbers and odds on top of it. In mathematical proofs, you’ll find lots of examples where a minimum delta and epsilon are used to prove a theory. I used a lowball HIV number–1.2 mil HIV cases in the U.S.–and divided by 10. I assumed best case for the opposing argument as… Read more »
@fleezer total stranger? yes. but he is confident, attractive, well put together and older. it was daytime in public in a nice neighborhood. he is her neighbor. he is social and polite. he knows cool stuff to do in the community. she obviously felt safe. Lessee…was it likely that at some point she looked at him as a potential sex partner? Check…are PUAs confident, attractive, well put together? Check…is he socially skilled like a PUA? Check. Was she chasing him? Check. Did she throw herself at him? Not overtly. Was she DTF? Not likely, but her wiring made her consider… Read more »
that women want of ton of other stuff way more than the D.
…not necessarily more than…besides the D, depending on whether or not she’s In the Moment ™.
I want to game but I can’t find targets. the places I used to go… all dead.
I don’t have that problem…seems strange that you do. Are you saying that you can’t find places where hot girls go?
@fleezer dude, chill… you are getting ramped for something that should ideally be FUN… girls are girls… @habd I know I can’t keep up with all the frs, but how many pulls did you have last month? besides my wife?… zero… i’ve been focused on other shit… aaaand i can feel my skillz degrading…lol… although the wife is a shit test generator…lol… what was your ratio of opens to closes? how about hours applied versus pulls? was this better or worse than the same month last year? i started from literally the worst position you could be in… depressed/suicidal, old,… Read more »
@fleezer
I feel ya man
In regards to YaReally’s lays, I remember YaReally saying every other night (around 50/50) he’ll have a good night, and his definition of a “good night” was getting a sober lay. Can’t find that shit in his archive but i read it the other day. Could be an exaggeration but idk. His advice seemed on point and every now then he’d thrown in an FR
“but you didn’t fuck her and you weren’t trying.”
lol ^^^this.
“a pua must have this data in a simple excel sheet or else what’s the point.”
great point.
@Fleezer That was quite a good rant. Don’t be turned off by my pedantic red pill theorizing. Or my cut-and-pastes. Or my apparent lecture. It’s not really a lecture like a parent will lecture a child. Because I am affirming that you are doing things right (red pill guy to red pill guy). It’s just that you’re stuck in a Grief stage. My guess is that it is Depression. For that stage alternate pathways (via neuroplasticity) are important. Point of fact is that you have excellent masculine tactical skills in a terribly feminized world. And you are really alive. And… Read more »
@Culum From the CDC website: Total combined cases of chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis reported in 2015 reached the highest number ever, according to the annual Sexually Transmitted Disease Surveillance Report released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). There were more than 1.5 million chlamydia cases reported (1,526,658), nearly 400,000 cases of gonorrhea (395,216), and nearly 24,000 cases of primary and secondary (P&S) syphilis (23,872) – the most infectious stages of the disease. The largest increase in cases reported from 2014 to 2015 occurred in P&S syphilis (19 percent), followed by gonorrhea (12.8 percent) and chlamydia (5.9… Read more »
@Culum I found this site to be interesting…not sure how they source their claims. http://justherpes.com/facts/genital-herpes-statistics-us-hsv2/ “Genital herpes affects more Black than White Americans: 39.2% of the overall Black population, with 48% of Black women affected.³ The largest increasing population is white teenagers.⁴ One in four American teenagers has an STD. 50-75% of unmarried American women between 45 and 50 have genital herpes.⁵” CNN, NPR, and globalherbalsupplies.com All highly reputable sources, lol…fun for discussion Apparently there are dating websites for people with genital herpes…Positive Singles CDC facts about race/ethnicity and Herpes… https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5807a6.htm?s_cid=mm5807a6_e Bear in mind that estimates are required because people… Read more »
@ fleezer You have been my one mystery man here. How can a man with so much sexual satisfaction, confidence have an imperceptible burden of performance? I assumed the burden was assimilated into your personality. “I am unhappy with my FUTURE situation and I am baffled at how to address it. I am sure that the red pill is the only path though.” Ah, this was me a year ago on my little journey. Once I started, my marriage was improving in sexual satisfaction with corresponding increasing amplitude, variety and frequency in shit tests, tests I’ve failed previously and remedied… Read more »
” . . . we don’t seek or won’t seek ‘a completion in life’.”
Don’t have to. It’s going to find us.
Read those herp/std reports for years. Utter bullshit.
“Don’t have to. It’s going to find us.” Fleezer is going to find his way. By instinct. The fake Frame of the Feminine Imperative, Feminism and Social Conventions might not find him and enter his Frame. Cause Frame is not power. This doesn’t apply to Fleezer, you can tell he’s not afraid of death. He’s just thinking about really living too much in someone else’s frame. I don’t blame him, I get frustrated with stupid Frame battles too. But the newbies following along might think about it every time they get approach anxiety. When you are not afraid of dying,… Read more »
I walk into an old club I used to go to in my younger years. It is quiet. A number of girls and dudes here and there. I head straight to the dj’s cube and start chatting up the dejay. During animated chit chat with the dj, a girl approaches us, says hi to me, cant remember the convo verbatim, then she kinos me. I push then pull. Then push as I continue chatting with the dj. Moments later I notice her seated at a vantage point with her girlfriend and they are staring at us. I walk over, we… Read more »
@cheupez
Did you kiss either girl before fucking?
@SJF
There is a sound prophylactic reason why wine was the drink of lovers. heh
@ASD I don’t believe for a second that wine will do jack shit for preventing any transmission of disease. 15% alcohol, YGBSM. That being said paradoxically, I share your fear of any STD’s as real possibilities, but not your admonitions here to worry about it. I wouldn’t really worry about it if I were non-monogamous. When sex is on the table, a man should be comfortable with not being in absolute control of disease transmission. Sex is all about not being in control (of yourself, you can be in control of her). It’s about abandoning pretty much all else in… Read more »
Thursday FR: Had a really shitty night. Stayed out for about an hour. Felt really stressed out, maybe due to school and other shit, lack of sleep maybe, idk. Got in an argument before hand with my roommates, where some of their comments really pissed me off so the whole night I felt out of it, frustrated, pissed. Within that hour I had a few really good opportunities and just fucking blew it. I literally had no reason or excuses, and i’ve done that kind of thing before so I knew what the worse case result would be, yet i… Read more »
@EhIntellect
When the burden of performance has run it’s course for a chick, she wants the right to get off the bus no matter who is driving it.
You can’t perform your way out of engineered obsolescence.
I think the burden to perform and the burden to manipulate with dread are opposite things.
@theasdgamer
Yes.
She kissed me a few times during. I dont remember it before. Neither do I remember how many times during, may be two, or three. May be more. I was a bit drunk. I cant quite say I kissed back, the kissing just happened, more like getting my lips sucked on.
“@ fleezer You have been my one mystery man here. How can a man with so much sexual satisfaction, confidence have an imperceptible burden of performance? I assumed the burden was assimilated into your personality.” I don’t find Fleezer mysterious at all. He is upfront. Straightforward. Masculine. Red Pill personified. Impudent. I take Fleezer as a good manophere role model of a man with these traits. I do cringe over his uncomfortableness with how his soul aligns with his forebrain SuperEgo. He’s not in the “What Me Worry?” mode. No one man can gauge, or judge another man’s burden of… Read more »
@SafeSpace “This game is really fucking hard lol” What are you going to do about that? And why did you attach a lol to it? Is that a girly chuckle to fill the void? Honor among men is a tactical virtue. You are here commenting in a group of men and want their feedback. We expect you to honor our expectations of you stepping up to the plate and performing. To have merit in a meritocracy. Not to get sympathy for the game being fucking hard. Honor among men. Honor it. https://therationalmale.com/2016/02/15/the-warrior-princess/comment-page-5/#comment-141140 Honor is a concern for one’s reputation for… Read more »
“I got this, no big deal”
Yeah. That’s what I was getting at. His confidence is powerful. Something we all can appreciate. Esp. me.
@Everyone: ASD is even more paranoid about STDs than I am, he expressed his opinions previously. It didn’t contribute to me freaking out.
@Sentient: I think based on my freak out yesterday your 50/50 guess was generous, but I’m holding my own now. But Culum and SJF’s input were rather important in helping me regain control, whether I did get infected or not.
@SJF: e-mailed you, thanks for offering.
” I don’t blame him, I get frustrated with stupid Frame battles too.” Aaaahem….tell me about! Frames battles can get out of control. Sure as fuck I’ve learned the hard way they are not power. I got caught up in massive battle recently and the harder I tried the worse it got. Letting go and focusing on self works. The lessons are good when they stick. I’ve found building my Frame to be satisfying for myself. Worrying about how my Frame is in relation to women is male hamster spinning. Do what you want, when you want, and what brings… Read more »
@SJF I don’t believe for a second that wine will do jack shit for preventing any transmission of disease. 15% alcohol, YGBSM. Research on The Antimicrobial Properties of a Wine Based Disinfectant http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1957/22588/WaiteJoyG2004.pdf?sequence=1 12% alcohol. Even the most resistant bacteria was inactivated in nine minutes. Viruses are far more vulnerable than bacteria. They wouldn’t last seconds.. Wines are acidic because alcohols are acidic. Deadly to viruses. Somewhat less deadly to bacteria. Even Galen used wine to disinfect wounds. I don’t think that I am overthinking or over-cautioning. The problem with viral infections is that they can linger after they no… Read more »
@SJF As regards risk. If a man has 100 partners, he will almost surely get a couple or three viral infections of various types, likely totally unaware that he has been infected. Then, when he’s older, he gets the flu and those latent infections activate and hose his immune system and he dies from something as normally treatable as pneumonia. This doesn’t seem like manageable risk–more like an unavoidable wall. Condoms don’t work well against viruses–voids in condoms are too large. Wine won’t help prevent viral infections for PIV. It will help with kissing and bj’s, but she has to… Read more »
@theasdgamer
The misinformation you’re spreading…….. smfh Stop it little boy
@mersonia aka “Ostrich”
Go out and play with the other little boys.
FR: 6 pm. community hot tub I’m soaking alone. mid 30s mom in bikini with folded wrinkled gut hanging over her bikini bottom and her two daughters, probably 5 and 6 ish enter. I am disgusted and say nothing. no eye contact. just keep the jets on my sore muscles. they stay on the opposite side of the tub from me. the little girls complain about bugs. mom drones on in mommy voice about bugs being part of being outside and some incorrect information about ants and bees. then out of nowhere: 5 year old: “am I skinny or fat?”… Read more »
@fleezer, damn dude! That was some deep shit right there – something I sense Rollo with want to expand on.
Yeah, my claims are misinformation… like my claim that wines are acidic… http://winefolly.com/review/understanding-acidity-in-wine/ Unfortunately, that article wrongly attributes the ph of wine to components like oxalic acid. It DOES get the acidity of wine correct, however. If you look at the following link, you’ll find that a solution of 50% ethanol in water has a pH of about 5, which is weakly acidic. http://www.imeko.org/publications/wc-2012/IMEKO-WC-2012-TC24-O4.pdf Let’s consider a 12% solution of ethanol in water. Ethanol is highly miscible in water despite its organic character and water being ionic in character. Actually, ethanol is slightly ionic because it is a two carbon… Read more »
Fleezer
Naah what really happened is in kindergarten the government gives out lick and stick tatoos for good behavior.And then later on in life the only way a tat parlor can get licensed is by using government ink with a time release LSD that keeps tat wearers triping on conspiracy theories untill the ink fades. And then some kid said she was phat.
Psych!
Holy shit – Got laid!! At last, lol AirStewardess – 21 years old. Decent looking. I WISH I could give more info in regards to a detailed FR’, but I was pretty drunk! I basically approached a group of girls who were sitting down in a bar. I think I just sat next to the one I liked and was like ”Girl in the blue dress….What’s your story?!” Anyway, she hated me! Kind of ignored me. But I carried on plowing. Talking nonsense. I plowed long enough to stay in set for when her friend (the girl I ended up… Read more »
Good work Mike. You ACTED without thinking, led the situation and BANG!
#Bob’syouruncle
Repeat 10x
@Pitbikemike – Woohoo!
Congratulations. Action+Escalation = success.
Don’t worry about the details – just keep that forward momentum in mind and keep going.
Culum – any ideas here? Mike – “honestly wish I remember more about how I done it.” the keys… 1. “I basically approached a group of girls” – Approach… bust a move. 2. ” was like ”Girl in the blue dress….What’s your story?!” – Don’t sweat the opener… 3. “Talking nonsense. I plowed long enough to stay in set” – self amusing (DHV) and did not self eject… 4. ” I then suggested going too a different bar. They came with me.” – compliance test, bounce, change venue trust building… 5. “pulled her towards me by her waist. She complied.… Read more »
#Bob’syouruncle You sure structured that along Mystery Method. Congratulations. “Boned (no condom! D’oh!).” I hope you at least swished some wine around. Doesn’t that inactivate sperm too? Which was it? You were too drunk to remember, or you were so not thinking that you were able to get laid that you didn’t have one readily available. “Happy, but I honestly wish I remember more about how I done it. I’m also angry that I didn’t get my 20 approaches in last night as that was actually my goal since i’ve been so lame with AA recently! But She was basically… Read more »
Isn’t the manosphere great? And to think most guys in real life don’t know what a manophere is.
#Sentient’sYourUncle
Most things in game are subtle/covert but sometimes when people are drunk all bets are off. When YaReally used to post stuff in here, he used to talk about DHVing by chatting with other dudes in the club. I think he should have dedicated a whole post/comment to just chatting the dj. I have discovered that chatting up the dj seems to be a girl magnet especially if the two of you laughing yourself silly. A girl (or two) soon shows up. I was out last night. A drunk hb3 came at me as I was chatting with the dj,… Read more »
Good shit Mike
“Then I just pulled her towards a slightly secluded brick wall as her friend was talking too the cab driver, and rubbed her pussy a bit over her dress, She moaned.
Then I just said ”You’re coming with me”. Grabbed her by the hand and marched her towards a different cab rank
Then got her back to my place”
Loved this part. Alpha as fuck. Making shit happen. Now go out and do it again tonight!
Well I feel I was fairly lucky if i’m honest. I mean, I know that you make your own luck too an extent, but I kind of feel that that I didn’t do anything special and she was just maybe kinda into me from the start? I can only give myself credit for the fact that I approached, and for the fact that I actually escalated. But I didn’t really learn much last night. I feel as though she made it kind of easy on me. And thinking back, now that my head has cleared, I DID make about 3… Read more »
@pitbikemike nice job! Everything went as planned. You escalated and pulled the trigger. And over the course of these past months your persistence as paid off and you haven’t even noticed! Keep going at it man!! — FR for last night: Went out between 9:30 and 1:30. Made 3 approaches. Girl 1: Asked her if she was from X. She said “No, i’m from Z.” I bantered with her for a few minutes, didn’t get physical or isolate her as I should have. A friend of hers – I think it was an orbiter – dived in and asked her… Read more »
3 approaches in 4 hours on Friday night in a college town?
yea
That’s almost impossible unless you are intentionally ignoring girls… just the crowds alone, at the bar etc.
Fix this.
@pitbike
the girl stopped me a few seconds into a small DHV story/routine and said something like ”that’s a bad pickup line!”
Probably a shit test, which means that she was thinking about reasons not to bang you. So, it’s good to be able to recognize this quickly in real time and react appropriately…”So, how many times have you used it?”
@Sentient
Nah not really. Just cause there are large crowds doesn’t mean girls will automatically be approached.
“Just cause there are large crowds doesn’t mean girls will automatically be approached.”
Try deliberation.
@kfg
what do you mean by deliberation?
The opposite of automatically. With thought, intent, agency.
Quick run through here. Firstly, I MAY have solved the last major health issue I have. I’m extremely paranoid about it, because its been going on since this past december, and just all of the sudden started to go away. So I’m not sure it will get better, but then again it did just pop up out of nowhere to begin with, so who knows. But I am staying optimistic about it. We’ll see how it goes, but hopefully I will be good enough to be able to seriously go out this may, and then I can do my uber… Read more »
@pitbike
should read “the less you CARE about that, the more you’ll win.”
Last night was another rough night. Talk to a fat chick at the very beginning. She seemed into me but I wasn’t in to her at all so I cut the conversation. Talked to some some indian girl later in the night; she seemed into me as well, but I wasn’t really into her, so I left before things go too serious. The rest of the night I just roamed around the downtown area, saying hey and chatting with people I knew, joking with a few bartenders about the hockey game, but avoiding talking to girls altogether. A lot of… Read more »
but i’ve definitely come to the point where getting good at this game, and getting laid, is a thing i take really seriously – maybe way too seriously. idk. that’s why i think a break might be good. Focus on schoolwork, go hunting and fishing or something.
“– i’m not to sure what would be beneficial.”
Dealing directly with your approach aversion.
“. . . go hunting and fishing . . .”
Always good.
@Safespace Do you not think that you can use the fat chicks and Indians as a pivot to a social situation in which you plow through to their friends? Both the fat chick and the Indian were there by themselves? Unlikely. Use them as a pivot to the girls you are attracted to. On thing I learned from the PUA’s commenting here is that when you socialize in a group, that you be fun and add value to the group. Practice being fun an adding value, even to the hapless women. When you come across an attractive value, then also… Read more »
Well shit, forgot today was easter. Was gonna do a bit of in field to get warmed up for blitz, but not much out. Probably go out in the next few days though. @pitbikemike Here’s a more detailed write up for your LR I WISH I could give more info in regards to a detailed FR’, but I was pretty drunk! Unusual you got laid here lol. Usually being drunk fucks you up because it makes it harder to read people and to think on the fly. Here though, I think it helped you because it shut down all your… Read more »
I’m scared to write this FR because she was batshit crazy and i’m literally sitting here wondering if the police will knock at my door soon because she was so hot and cold. Crying. Then kissing me. Then telling me to leave. Then making me finger her. etc, But I banged the hottest girl i’ve ever imagined I could bang in my wildest dreams a minute ago. I’m Literally in shock. Stunning girl, People were looking at me with envy. 18 year old girl! I could be her dad. I’d say 9/10 lookwise. Easy. Almost feel as though i’m content… Read more »
@pitbikemike “Almost feel as though i’m content with never getting laid again as she is literally about as hot and ideal as i’d imagine i’d ever get” Lol I remember this feeling after banging my first 9. You now have reference experience of banging a 9 which will be communicated in your vibe (entitled to 9s instead of feeling unworthy of them) and help get more 9s (“I’ve done this before, I can do it again”). I know this because it wasn’t until I had a couple of 9s under my belt that my game really took off. Game is… Read more »
@pitbike OK man, check and correct the type of feelings you say you are experiencing re the 9. You are going deep into blue pill pedestal territory. Don’t do this…. Your life and happiness depend on it. As I’ve stressed here countless times, a hawt hb9-10 is still just another girls at the end of the day, always. Of course they can be fucked because they too have vaginas.you’re allowing yourself to perceive her as somehow a special pinnacle or something, when at the end of the day she’s just a girl you had sex with. Go bang a bunch… Read more »
@Pitbikemike – Congratulations! Even without the details – you must have done things right to get it done – so great work (again) on taking action and escalating and moving forward. See how momentum builds up? If possible, mask the identifying details and post an LR – sounds like it will be interesting. But don’t risk anonymity or anything for it. Also make sure you read YaReally’s stuff on preventing Buyer’s Remorse in the girl (cuddle afterwards, try and get some text messages post-bang about how she had a good time etc to prove consent..that kind of thing) and follow… Read more »
Pitbikemike
Nice work…
If possible, mask the identifying details and post an LR – sounds like it will be interesting.
I bet it looks just like the last one… You were out, around girls… and Open, Self amuse, pass shit tests, physicality, sexuality, and leading… Keep going. 9x to go!
Hank You still haven’t responded to me from before. – wrong You need to explain why you were demonstrably, patently 100% incorrect on your statements here before you move on to criticize me on anything else. – wrong again… but I guess you found a shoe you saw fit? Listen Hank… Gamma is not attractive to women… Gammas are wanna be leaders of men, not leaders of men. women suss this out quickly, and most guys as well… work on this… Each year on the Lax teams there are two kinds of new players who show up… Both lack experience.… Read more »
OK, I need to put some thoughts down. I’m still sitting here nervous and anxious. I should feel like a million bucks since she really is close a ’10’ in terms of looks (Super young, slim, perfect face, stunning broad smile, bright eyes), but instead I feel a bit sick. This is about the events that happened after i’d got her out of the club. So after moving her too a different, more secluded part of the bar, we had a chat and then started kissing again. She kind of played with my cock over my jeans, and I rubbed… Read more »
@pitbikemike
Cluster B man. Gonna have to let chick go.
“There are 3 billion chicks in the world, if a girl brings you ANY sort of drama or gives signs of cluster B shit, get the fuck out of there. Lie if you have to, it ain’t worth it, she’ll cut your dick off in your sleep. I don’t have a 3 strikes you’re out policy, they get 1 strike so I’m out before I’m too entrenched in her world”.
http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=Cluster+b
Mike Bizzarre mix of emotions. I’m anxious. A bit scared. I feel a bit bad for her, too. I’m worried about if I ever bump into her again. Worried about other ‘repercussions’ – I also have a weird feeling of ‘loss’ since she must legit hate me yet she was clearly into me at one point and it’s like I know I could never salvage anything with her which hurts because she’s like my dreamgirl to look at and I feel I’ve kind of squandered a gift from the Gods! WTF? R E L A X… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPEcDg6mUsM This is all… Read more »
I didn’t want to spell it out, but i’m concerned about her getting some epic ‘buyers remorse’ judging from her erratic behaviour and getting the police involved! That’s the main cause of my anxiety.
….
But, she was hot. A gift from teh Gods even.😐
What they all said. She does sound weird but in all likelihood nothing will come of it. Get on with your life like Sentient said. Not much you can do about the buyer’s remorse now (maybe send a text saying you enjoyed spending time with her or something – the idea isn’t to see her again but rather to get a return text saying the same thing so that just in case the police turn up you have proof of consent). But frankly nothing will happen – if she was going to complain she’d have done it by now. I… Read more »
@pitbitmike
lol bro…. you didn’t fuck her……. She fucked you
Mike I didn’t want to spell it out, Duh… we know that… The reason you feel this is because you feel unworthy of her… The FRA thing is well blown out of proportion… But Blax is right there are no time machines… there is NOTHING you can do about it. Sent your comfort text? Bought her a McMuffin? So what… in a month or two or 30 years later… she can still make THE SAME CLAIMS… [ed. Yes I get you can bolster your claims and help mitigate “buyers” remorse, that’s not the point]. See Cosby… http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad267/jmj542/cosby.jpg when i was… Read more »
Mike
Remember what you feel she feels… if you feel weird and rapey when you see her or her friends or friends of her friends… just don’t.
Or you can go down to the police station preemptively and tell those guys “hey really nothing happened here that wasn’t consensual, just want to let you know” and see how that shakes out…
I make a habit of not fucking chicks that are crying ( unless it’s tears of joy ) or acting oddly hesitant. Guys get confused about LMR and can’t calibrate properly, because they read pua theory but aren’t experienced enough to read warning signs. Pua teaches to push past LMR. Risky proposition for inexperienced guys. Sometimes you gotta let the 10 go and look elsewhere. Learn Pitbike, or you may find police and charges in your future. Reading your fr, I see multiple signs before you got in the cab, where you should have cut your losses. You did not… Read more »
BTW that up there in Sentient’s post – is the single biggest thing from reading Ya’s posts that helped my resolve my own situation. When she was sitting outside my apartment in her car after rushing out of my place and texting me about how uncomfortable she felt about what had just happened inside (she gave me a HJ pretty much as soon as she came in because I opened the door in a towel)- I held my frame and didn’t apologize and imposed the right (positive) frame on it without apologizing or acting as if something had gone wrong.… Read more »
Thanks, guys. I know you think i’m being melodramatic, but you kind of had to be there!
I maybe didn’t do the situation justice in my write-up
I’m gonna try to relax and will have a work out tonight.
I’m assuming if a complaint was made, i’d find out about it rather soon even though she knows almost nothing about me? (like where I live, my number, my full name etc etc)
You gotta be able to read the degrees of ” odd ” behavior. Is she acting a little strange because she’s nervous? Is she acting strange because she’s excited? Is she acting strange in anticipation of sex ( panties drenched )? Is she acting strange because she feels pressure? Maybe intimidation? Is she acting strange because she doesn’t know what else to do? Is she feeling obligated? Feeling like she might’ve lead you on? Maybe she should just let you have your way so that you will leave? Is she a slut that’s trying to change? Lol, happens more than… Read more »
@blaximus
”Is she acting strange because she feels pressure? Maybe intimidation?”
”Is she feeling obligated? Feeling like she might’ve lead you on? Maybe she should just let you have your way so that you will leave?”
yeah, these two are closest to what my thoughts are now with the benefit of hindsight, Especially since she’s only just recently turned 18 and the fact that we’d basically had an argument in her kitchen which must have put a serious hammer blow into the sexual tension!
Mike
yeah, these two are closest to what my thoughts are now with the benefit of hindsight,
and yet a pimp might’ve bitched slapped her for real as well, and she’s begging him for more…
get control of your frame.
@Sentient and yet a pimp might’ve bitched slapped her for real as well, and she’s begging him for more… Fuckin’ A! Mike whined: Afterwards she turned her back to me and when I tried to make sure she was OK and stuff she kind of snapped and clearly wanted me too go away. get control of your frame. +1000 Not trying to be a dick, Mike, but Sentient and Blax are telling you like it is and you’re not buying it because you’re being a pussy and buying into the bitch’s frame. Why was the bitch giving you mixed signals?… Read more »
the fact that we’d basically had an argument in her kitchen which must have put a serious hammer blow into the sexual tension! More like raised it x 1000…cats aren’t dogs…if a girl’s emotions get on a roller coaster, it amps up her sexual tension… Example of a girl’s emotions amping her sexual tension: Once when Mrs. Gamer and I were having a loud argument, she pulled off her panties and threw them at my face. At that point she was totally naked. We didn’t bang right then because I didn’t want to…however, 3x in the next 24 hours and… Read more »
FR Had been looking forward to going back out all week and feel like I am starting to become more aware of the social dynamics involved in attraction thanks to continuing to read TRM and absorbing as many of the posts here as possible. All of my approaches have started with asking girls to dance at a place that I’m comfortable at so here are a couple that I can remember. These are from the combination of both nights. I danced with 20+ different women during that time span at least. 1. Based upon advice here in other people’s FRs… Read more »
Don’t know if this fits in to the other advice, but I thought this curated tip from Krauser might help in future game situations. Take it for what it is worth: Overt Sexuality Most guys are too nice.They completely underestimate how sexual girls are, how much they want sex, how quickly they will have sex, and how many horny thoughts go through their minds in everyday interactions with men. So once a guy breaks out of the nice guy trap, he tends to overcompensate in the other direction and become a foul-mouthed douchebag. It’s normal – swinging the pendulum to… Read more »
@catchers
“most of the conversation was more me layering questions on topics she brought up to keep things flowing but was not necessarily fostering emotional connection”
Two things:
1. The objective of talking with a woman is not conversation, it is emotion. Cut unproductive threads and introduce good threads like here:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/3/#comment-heartiste-418271
and here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PUApolyamory/comments/1vu6mm/pua_masf_repost_how_i_conversate_by_chopan/
2. You want to pace her reality and bring her into a sexual state:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey0cHvLFzB4&feature=youtu.be
Doing those two things will help you close with girls you find sexually attractive.
Good luck
Having A Bad Day And Sentient and other men with kids Not sure if this is the right forum since I’m not asking about my wife but my kids. It is ironic in a way that the best resource I can think of to ask for advice on fatherhood is here, but there it is. My oldest is an almost 6 year old boy. I am going to have about 3 weeks alone with him on holiday soon with the rest of the family joining us later. Mostly in a city and some short road trips. I am running a… Read more »
The Marquis I just want to have a good time with my boy and start laying the foundations of the right values and fight back against the message he gets from the rest of the world. I am going to have about 3 weeks alone with him on holiday soon Three weeks at 6 years old is a looong time. Don’t wing it. Do some research before hand, have a plan. Here are some ideas. 1. Zoo – show him around a zoo, compare the male and female of the species, discuss the differences. 2. Fitness – take him to… Read more »
12. Go Carts – lots of fun too…
This here She objects if I say things like “Boys are stronger than girls”. arm wrestle her in front of him… lols
A technique I’ve used twice now and has been positive is something like: assuming the sale…but not right now… A month back I met a girl at party, I gamed her but realized that ejecting her at the party would immediately activate her ASD and she’d blow me off….So I got her number, she texted me “hi”—at the party to confirm the number. So I knew it was on. As I was leaving I said: “I’m leaving now…I’d ask you for a drink but have to work tomorrow, but let’s do that drink tomorrow. I’ll text you.” She agreed, we… Read more »
J HB: Do you always say that to girls? Chopan: (smile). What’s your name? HB: Michelle. Whats yours? Chopan: Michelle… michelle…. She who resembles God HB: What? Chopan: Your name. It means she who resembles God. Tell me something Michelle… have you ever been to France? HB: Yes, Paris 2 years ago, I loved it. How do you know about my name? Chopan: This is a great song. Come on lets go dance Do you guys see how this goes? Here is the key: Your mental state during conversations should be that she is already yours. So you are playing… Read more »
wala – “This may have a name”
Cat String Theory… also known as DNGTWTWWTEI – Do Not Give Them What They Want When They Expect It. simple to remember and covers a lot of ground.
Marquis
13. MMA – watch fights, bonus points if you can get to a local life event. Teach him some basics of striking, guard, grappling. Practice with him. Teach him to strike back if provoked etc.
Marquis
14 – Contact – put your fucking phone away, computer etc. and LOOK him in the eye when you are speaking with him. same for him – other than when you watch something together, no screens. be out and about. sit in the park, coffee places etc. walk around the city and look at sites… Contact.
@Marquis Sentient Sentient is giving you great advice… one thing to be sure to do while you are engaged in those activities is to ask him “so, what do you think about that?…” (about whatever…) and then wait for him to think about it and tell you… mostly kids (and especially boys today) don’t get anyone actually listening to what they think about stuff… also, you can have him take the lead when you do stuff (you can help him but don’t do it for him… and then let him ‘suffer the consequences/figure it out/get the reward’ for his actions…)… Read more »
@TheMarquis – wow, 6 yo and 3 weeks w/out mommy? That right there might be the biggest issue, how to keep his mind off mommy, especially at bedtime. Regardless, excellent time to show him daddy can be way more fun. Sentient’s suggests are great. Also might be the only time I can remember Sentient giving specific, prescriptive actionable advice lol And never forget, they watch *everything*. For me, one of my biggest eureka moments was the realization that the best way to teach him how to be a man was to BE that man. If you’re not already that man… Read more »
” . . . one of my biggest eureka moments was the realization that the best way to teach him how to be a man was to BE that man.”
Primo: Where did you learn our language?
Secundo: I listened.
“Kerim had been firm about the evening. Bond had wanted to stay in his hotel room and wait for the first contact to be made—a note, a telephone call, whatever it might be. But Kerim had said no. The girl had been adamant that she would choose her own time and place. It would be wrong for Bond to seem a slave to her convenience. ‘That is bad psychology, my friend,’ Kerim had insisted. ‘No girl likes a man to run when she whistles. She would despise you if you made yourself too available. From your face and your dossier… Read more »
@sentient Typical. Whenever proven incorrect, you refuse to acknowledge your mistake and instead spew insults. No, you were utterly and provably wrong about yareally not having friends outside of game. One again, you wrote: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-13/#comment-192314 Complete delusion… go read the archive. He stated numerous times his main hobby was being alone, being online, posting about PUA and that he avoided doing things with his “friends” outside of that he found it boring and energy draining. Now… PUT. THAT COFFEE. DOWN! Here you state that I was “delusional” for believing yareally had friends outside of game, and that I should look… Read more »
Oh Hank… keep digging…