Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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PS – The Facebook girl story I only mentioned because it came so soon after Conference Girl and was so similar. Similar dynamics etc. Interesting how an abject beta like my teenage/early 20s self could still leave enough of an impact for these girls to hit me up so much later.

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“why did she message me in the first place if no group? Just how much was she thinking about me for the last week before reinitiating??”

The fuck I am reading here? You KNOW why.

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Too much talk about PUA/life coach grifters.

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Palma “But the thing is, if I really can’t see a route to the mattress (which I couldn’t with the slim hot women at the bar last week) then I take whatever fun I can get and move on to one where I can see a route to the mattress.” Well that’s pretty much what Culum is doing here, except he’s cloaking it in feigned ignorance… I’m with HABD, push all the sets as hard as you can – especially when you are fighring things out or practicing. It’s only “free” validation for them if you actually give them something,… Read more »

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To be clear “pushing” in this context means staying in set and running your best, calibrated game, with the goal of banging SNL.

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Quick FR for the brain-trust Went to Brighton to see a gig with old friends I a bar before hand and there’s a 3-set. All average. Use it to warm up and approach them and tell them they look kinca grungy and ask if they’re going to the gig. They laugh. I tease one about her boots (they’re super unusual. Brighton is a very ‘quirky’ area!). My friend joins the set. I pic the one I like and cold read her and she tells me she’s Spanish. I say something lke ”Is it true what they say about Spanish girls?”… Read more »

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Oh, also last weeks FR I mentioned a girl who I was chatting too and it seemed to be going well but she just left with her friends kind of abruptly even though I kind of sensed attraction
My friend told me last night that his girlfriend is a friend of a friend of that girl, and she’s been asking about me and apparently likes me so watch this space as i’m sure she’ll feature in a future FR -See if I can mes it up or not wink

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@IRL “Where are you with talking to girls in social settings? Girls are where you find them.” Yeah, about that, I haven’t spoken with a girl in social setting since i broke up with my ex 2 years go, only chatting on tinder and POF,etc. I rarely go out, a bit nervous in social settings, I just go to work,gym,home. That’s it. I don’t know where to meet women or how to start, which is why i tried the online dating apps. Another problem is that i have no social circle, no friends, nothing, I have a few friends but… Read more »

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Well you’ll have to get out of your house. Go to coffee shops, food courts and bars at happy hour to start. Socialize.

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“my friends are calling me from across the road saying we need to go into the bar together as he’s reserved a place or something and I leave the girls. I don’t know why I didn’t ask them to come with me. They were straight up gorgeous”.
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aqualinespirit So what are you going to do about it? And how can we help you? At least you are starting with step 1. Admitting you have a problem. Or are you really doing that? Start with socializing with men. They tend to be more straightforward. And have purpose, mission and goals. If you don’t socialize, perhaps cut down on internet usage and read some non-fiction books as guidance. Go out there and befriend some solid guys. Get a mentor, or at least seek one out. And don’t have apprehensions about socialization. Because you are going to socialize in order… Read more »

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@Sentient – hahaha, yes you’re right. Of course I know, it’s more just…noting it I guess (she replied telling me she is probably terminally ill with cancer but is undergoing treatment and she’ll look me up if she survives and comes to my city). @Palma – that’s the big change in my attitude. I’ve done plenty of being focussed on the goal and I’ve banged lots of girls. I’m consciously trying to step back and just be social all the time. Which in this case, yes, means talking to a girl (and her bf) with no path to the finish… Read more »

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Sure enough is.

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I see what you guys are doing there. Chapter 37 from You Are Not So Smart by David McRaney: Quote: Learned Helplessness THE MISCONCEPTION: If you are in a bad situation, you will do whatever you can do to escape it. THE TRUTH: If you feel like you aren’t in control of your destiny, you will give up and accept whatever situation you are in. In 1965, a psychologist named Martin Seligman started shocking dogs. He was trying to expand on the research of Pavlov—the guy who could make dogs salivate when they heard a bell ring. Seligman wanted to… Read more »

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My cut and paste on learned helplessness was meant to go in the regular thread The Truth About Standards in regards to commenter Aeon and Aqualinespirit regarding large hurdles in front of them. That’s what the “I see what you are doing there” meant. And what the mind steps on it’s own foot in doing normal human thinking. It is not meant to be pejorative. It is meant to avoid groupthink and go forward in a masculine way to be successful at what you want to do. That book by McRaney is really good. It’s short and breezy, unlike Robert… Read more »

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A hypothetical question about the phenomenon of monkey branching: what if a woman was monkey branching to you? Is it a red flag?

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@Escarole – I wouldn’t think monkey branching in itself is a red flag – it’s part of female psychology. But would depend on the precise circumstances and sometimes could be a red flag. @Palma – indeed the hold-drink thing is a very useful compliance tool from your end as well. If YOU give your drink to a girl and tell her to hold it till you get back (and she does), you’ve essentially locked in with her and prevented (or at least made it much more difficult) for her to forget you and go off with another guy. Classic Mystery… Read more »

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Palma “having made her work for it…” Yeah it’s in the book. These things are all about compliance and dominance/frame tests. Mystery says she gives you a compliance hoop to jump through, take her hoop, reframe and male her jump through yours first. So here she asks you to hold her drink, so in your social setting you don’t want to say No! So take her hoop (her request) and make her jump through yours. Her: Hold my drink. You: I only hold drinks for girls that dance. Do a little dance for me. Her: (dances) You: (taking drink) hmmmm… Read more »

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“Mystery says she gives you a compliance hoop to jump through, take her hoop, reframe and male her jump through yours first.”

I should add – this is one way to handle. You can reject of course. And so can she. Again it’s a diagnostic, she defies you know you need to build more attraction.

Go back to the ioi- iod loop… Which is in MM!

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It might be worth it for you.

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@SJF Thanks for sharing these. It was an interesting read, but i don’t think there is a point in reading the books, i have read so much over the years – Rational male, Dave Diangelo alphamale, Carlos Xuma’s How to become alpha male, No More Mr Nice Guy, lots of articles on GirlsChase,etc. I have read a lot of theory basically but so difficult to put into practice. I understand everything is more or less a skill and can be learned with practice. But when i learn engineering or lifting,mma, i only get frustrated or pissed off when i fail… Read more »

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but how do I fix that?

By making a wish on a falling star!

errr… No. Not that. By fucking Doing the Work(TM) and getting after it. Until then, no coffee for you.

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heh… all tongue in cheek… wink
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But if the ass fits, kick it!

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“But with socialising/women its more than that, when i fail i get fuckin depressed and i hate it, and i don’t want to try again. I am ok with physical pain, but emotional/social is so different. How do you deal with that, any advice? I didn’t go to a few weddings of some good friends of mine because i didn’t want to be the socially akward guy in there, sitting alone in the corner and I hate when that happens, so I avoid situations like these, but how do I fix that?” I don’t really know. I’ve never known any… Read more »

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aqualinespirit It may just be my solipsism, but I totally disagree with your assertion that reading stuff is of no value. It is of no value in you becoming better at socializing because you aren’t putting any of what you read into action. You are just resting on it. Why is it that you think that knowing and learning and reading stuff isn’t of any value. Give a rundown of that. Why? Not attending a wedding or two because you think it won’t provide value is clinically retarded thinking. With a loving care placed on the term clinically retarded. It… Read more »

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Aquilinespirit Step 4. In the Hero’s Journye is: Meeting the Mentor In which the Hero acquires a personal trainer. The Hero’s decided to go on the adventure — but they’re not ready to spread their wings yet. They’re much too inexperienced at this point and we don’t want them to do a fabulous belly-flop off the cliff. Enter the mentor: someone who helps the Hero, so that they doesn’t make a total fool of themselves (or get themselves killed). The mentor provides practical training, profound wisdom, a kick up the posterior, or something abstract like grit and self-confidence. Wise old… Read more »

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“If it’s worth it to anyone speak up and I’ll do it.”

Yes, I would be interested. I’ve got a first date from online Thursday night meeting at local bar.

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@Palma I’m absolutely convinced that younger are easier than “age appropriate” by an enormous margin and I know for a fact that it’s just my mental logic gates that have been lousing this up. NO. Younger girls ie: 20-29 year old ATTRACTIVE HB7 and up need much tighter game because 1. they get so much douchebag attention from EVERYONE 2. Most guys their age are soy boys. I’m now plating 2 girls in their 20’s (the third one dropped out). The 24 year old wants the fantasy she sees in those action films of a guy who knows how to… Read more »

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Palma/Wala “I’m absolutely convinced that younger are easier than “age appropriate” by an enormous margin and I know for a fact that it’s just my mental logic gates that have been lousing this up. NO. Younger girls ie: 20-29 year old ATTRACTIVE HB7 and up need much tighter game because 1. they get so much douchebag attention from EVERYONE 2. Most guys their age are soy boys.” Well let’s be more specific gents. You talking about SNL from cold approach? Generally need tight game all around and logistics. Generally [pay attention to that qualifier spergs] younger girls are easier to… Read more »

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Morpheus I’ve got a first date from online Thursday night meeting at local bar. The meet should be at a place you choose, not her. A place you know and have social proof in (i.e. you will be greeted by managers, hostesses, bartender, waitresses etc.). A place near your sex location. First drink at the bar, easier to kino, first bounce to a table or couch area, sit side by side if possible. If you have to move to a table put her facing you, not her back to the wall and you facing her. You are the focus not… Read more »

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1. Pre-plan logisitcs for insta-date. 2. Meet women in non-sexual business environments, such as networking breakfasts, seminars, community board meetings, etc. 2. Pitch a bounce to breakfast (or lunch?) and expect a lot of shit testing when you do. 3. Have breakfast (or lunch?) and run outcome independent game as usual. Put up with shit testing in non-reactive way. Do not bring up a day2. No kino or sexual stuff. 4. Later, pitch day2 dinner date over telephone call or worst case, email. Call in early afternoon and pitch dinner for that night. 5. Have dinner date 10 minutes from… Read more »

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lol J… You know that is how about 99% of the world in the last 50 years came to being born?

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What does that gotta do with telling guys in 2019, if they wanna bang 33+ year old women as fast as possible (cause it’s like really really super hard to SNL 33+ year old women. It’s got nothing to do with having weak game. Nope. No siree), they should invite them have breakfast with them. But DO NOT bring up sexual stuff. Then later on, touch base by emailing them to have a long ass 3 hour dinner (which you will be paying for) with you (don’t calibrate if she’s sending signals she wants to be pulled way earlier than… Read more »

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I see, you didn’t read anything but the summary post… and not well at that. Otherwise you’d get that this is just an example of “a” System [i.e. not “the” system] which was developed based on Generalities and specific Operating Conditions.

It’s got nothing to do with having weak game. Nope. No siree

Hmmm… second and third sentence… “You talking about SNL from cold approach? Generally need tight game all around and logistics.”

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“I suppose I might change my mind if I ever get any game, become a leader of men, or cure cancer, pilot the first Mars landing etc..”

What and give up life-guarding at the car wash?

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@Sentient “I see, you didn’t read anything but the summary post” Blackdragon: “The summary is that he meets women at business breakfasts or events, has breakfast with them, then buys them dinner as a day2, then escalates to sex after dinner” “Otherwise you’d get that this is just an example of “a” System [i.e. not “the” system]” which was developed based on Generalities” No. It IS thin man’s system. Like that’s not a general example blackdragon provided lol. He’s literally telling you where to go to meet 33+ yo women (networking seminar), what to do (insta date to breakfast/lunch then… Read more »

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It IS thin man’s system.

QED

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@Sentient/@j/@Palma et al On the “Over 33” thing. I like Blackdragon for the most part and don’t understand the crap he gets in the sphere these days. I don’t agree with him on lots of things but the dude turned his life around and he’s practiced everything he preaches. I even used his online dating system in my early days (then I ditched a lot of it as it was too cumbersome for me but it was a good early framework). I have long thought that BD is overstating the difficulty of sleeping with “over 33s”. It’s not some impossible… Read more »

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@Palma Yes, BD is pretty perceptive on some stuff – I just feel that I’ve kind of gone beyond what he teaches in the last few years. I think I read every post on his blog up to about 2017 or so before stopping. I agree with your analysis about superyacht-girl and similar women completely. But that whole algorithm pertains to the beta bucks side. My point – the point of my approach – is to completely rule yourself out of contention on that side – either because you’re poor/young (like @j) or married (making it clear you’re not planning… Read more »

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Thanks Palma. Sounds like very similar dynamics to Trump – interesting how similar the two countries are. I struggle with expressing my political opinions in my social circles (all very coastal liberal UMC types) – although I have other social circles as well which are different. I’d literally be excommunicated if I admitted voting for Trump or thinking there was a witch hunt against Kavanaugh or whatever. Even the very mild comments I sometimes make (about how shitty the Dem presidential field is and how Gabbard is the only one who actually seems to have any kind of grasp on… Read more »

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Culum “I have long thought that BD is overstating the difficulty of sleeping with “over 33s”. It’s not some impossible mountain to conquer.” OK let’s be clear here, and this will likely be my last word on BD. BD makes no such claim. At all. What he says is he and many others find is it takes longer to get to sex with over 33 than under 33 under THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS/CONSTRAINTS: Sex within four hours of meet Guys over 35 Not Night game/No clubs/bars/alcohol infused Activities ending by 11PM Spend less than $30 total She’s not social circle/on vacation/… Read more »

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A big part of BDs problem is the “structure” of online… Generally speaking, Young girls are online to meet for “whatever” but older ones are online for “something more”. So they try and play their sex card carefully to get the best shot at “something more”. Back to the “make rules for betas/break rules for alphas” thing.

By sticking to live action cold approach you change the fundamental structural dynamic, to your advantage.

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@Sentient – yes. I think he’s wrong even when all those criteria are met – I think you’ve explained the reason for that yourself. in relation to the level of his game and what he’s happy with. But I’ve had literally a couple of dozen or more consistent lays in sub-2 hr time frames with over-30 women from online, which meet every single one of those criteria (in many of them I was travelling, but not the woman so it still meets it). So it is certainly possible to do it. Like I said in my previous post, the core… Read more »

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I find older women (30+) much much easier to hook and bang than the 16-23 type girl, personally.
I feel like they are much less superficial and respond better to ‘game’ (teasing etc) and as long as it’s obvious i’m not trying to be their boyfriend, it’s easy pickings. Unfortunately i’m rarely that attracted to women of that age.
The young ones seem to be super hostile and guarded and if you don’t look like what they deem to be ‘hot’, you’re just wasting your time.

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“Like I said in my previous post, the core issue he misses is that you have to ruthlessly disqualify yourself from ANY BB/provider potential and then spike her and sexualize hard anf ast.”

Culum, can you expand on this? I’ve got this date tonight with this 48 year old who actually looks younger in her pics… We’ll see… But I want to avoid exactly this issue which I think was the problem with the last girl.

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“I find older women (30+) much much easier to hook and bang than the 16-23 type girl, personally.”

WT actual F?

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I’m not in the US – 15 is legal age of consent.

This is what 16 year olds look like nowadays

https://imgur.com/a/XVC0wQm

https://imgur.com/a/elzl5S2

They’re not at home playing with their ‘my little pony’ dolls like in the olden days lol

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Motherfucker I know what 16 year old girls look like.

No fucks given about age of consent either.

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What are you talking about? We don’t have any ‘gap gap’ laws here. I’m doing nothing illegal. This is like talking too the feminists at reddit lol.
As long as it’s legal, don’t worry about it. Just live within the law

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UK doesn’t have age gap laws either. Consent age is 16

Lowest i’ve gone in recent years is 17 which was still a MASSIVE age gap, but it is what it is. She was also the hottest girl i’ve ever banged so I don’t regret lol

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Too bad you don’t live here.

I’d love to catch you hanging around a high school or something trying to ” pick up ” a 16 tear old girl, with your sorry, weak ass.

Child molesting piece of shit.

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“It’s only consent at 16 so similar age kids don’t get themselves in trouble for messin around, which is fine.

You gotta fuck off and play with adult toys.”

“Child molesting piece of shit”

The white Knight is strong in these two…

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This ain’t about no dumb assed white knight shit.

It’s about how some dipshit ” men ” have fallen so far in life that they have to target children, and then say stupid shit like ” age of consent “.

You’d have to actually have kids or know some to get it evidently.

White knight. GTFOH with that.

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Everything’s a big fucking joke though, right?

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It’s part and parcel of the decline of men in general. I’m curious to see how many other comments will cosign pedophiles.

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GIF girl is very sexy tbh, but I don’t mind pretending she’s not to please r/niceguys. (Unless she’s actually 18 and legal in the US in which case, I admit I want her)

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@ALL

Is this mode of thinking acceptable to the bulk of men here? Is this a part of the hotter younger tighter trinity?

I understand the whole women are difficult thing and I read endless exaltation about only going for young girls/women. This is the danger in making that idea widespread , especially on the net. Some men are too emotionally immature and weak to parse what the meaning is and choose to look for a reason to go after children . Age of consent being one.

It’s disappointing.

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Downvotes?

Who’s pro pedophiles?

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@Morpheus – it’s basically what I said in my last few posts and Sentient and Palma commented on (in particular read the Sedfast thread that Sentient linked to which discusses the problem in more detail). Women have both AF and BB routines running all the time. But as Palma has explained with his examples, they prioritize BB more (consciously) starting in the epiphany phase around 30, but gets more extreme after 40-45 as they realize they have to find a man to support them for the rest of their lives. So unlike younger girls who will just go with the… Read more »

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HammerSmith, a ‘man’ can be purple pill in the respect that his red pill colors spin plates with an uninformed blue pill objective view of females. This ‘mysterious female’ porn focus on desire for innocence shows a complete lack of understanding and the end game is the man loses. Payback is truly a bitch and there is always the fucking you get for the fucking you got waiting around the bend. From Rollo’s , The Truth About Standards “We condition men to prioritize the Emotional process from a very early age. Again, all this makes actually vetting a woman for… Read more »

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“@Sentient

I don’t know if you want the feedback on your radar but it’s spot on.

Towel thing and food thing are escalating.

Not long and I’ll be out of here.”</>

Once you internalize RP and Game it’s hard to be wrong on this stuff. You can still fail to execute of course, but you usually know what’s going on… The flip side is you need to wade through idiots making false claims about looks or this or that technique or their hang ups… but we get there.

But now for you – RUN FORREST RUN!!!

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Who’s pro pedophiles?

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/lSA0JmhJuCvl.jpg

Female HS teachers?

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@Sentient: something that is (on the surface) a bit puzzling about those female HS teachers is that several of them are actually attractive.

Then I realized, many of the ones that aren’t attractive also would bang the (situational alpha) student if he is there in their class, but the student doesn’t care enough for them to make it realistic.

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IAS the (situational alpha) student That is a dog’s eyed view of these things. “Why didn’t I have THAT teacher when I was in school!”… “That’s my boy!” and “How is that a crime lol?” For every imagined Alpha Jock I’d bet there are ten introverted, shy, lonely and confused sons raised by single moms who these women are in fact emotionally abusing. But the FI does not want you to believe that power imbalances they crow about between these creepy “powerful older men” and “immature, idealistic, naive” young women go the other way… And the disparate outcomes in jail… Read more »

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Let’s get after it tonight boys!!!

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I finally get it! I just reread the Book of Pook recently. Now I understand the message of Rollo and some of the veteran commenters here who dissuade people from getting into hardcore PUA! I have been obssessed with PUA for 3 years now. Have tons of products in my hard drive. Notes that run into tons of pages. Field reports for every date I went on. But something hit me, when I was trying to engage in conversation with this 20 year old girl who had no personality, no similar interests as me, nothing that impressed me except she… Read more »

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Went to a Halloween party. It was fun. Tried to socialize, no “Game,” just socializing…rough. There was a cute blonde there that I definitely had my eye on. Didn’t know what to do though, and I could feel myself drowning. There was a dude dressed up that was around her most of the night, but it wasn’t clear they were together. So I tried just being friendly and engaging both of them, and also people near them as well, just banter back and forth, some joking around. The dude hanging around the girl was dressed as a scarecrow. They made… Read more »

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Wanted to share a clip but it shows my face. Fuck what a great night. Girls were so fucking receptive all night. No bitchiness. Everyone just wanted to have fun last night.

Pulled a chick home who I fucking destroyed in bed.

Now in a taxi on my way to fuck my Fuckbuddy. Hope everyone had a great night!

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@J – Good stuff. Don’t really need to see people having sex though lol. Don’t worry about posting vids wink

Actual detailed FR’s are better, but I imagine that as is always the case with a pull, there was really nothing too it. You opened, she thought you were handsome, and so everything just happened easily (she was receptive and let you escalate etc) and it lead to sex? In which case I agree an FR is kinda pointless too haha

Anyway, keep going. Get that 1000+ JMULV slay count, bruddah!!

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Well done as always J.
No joy for me. Girls weren’t playing nice last night
Hopefully better luck next weekend

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The following video is a tabloid press video from Turkey (the country). For some context, the van in the video carries the son of a very rich family of the country (whom can be seen inside) and some of his friends as they are leaving a club. The relevant part of the video is how they “forget” one of the girls that they were with. You can clearly see the frustration on her face (the fake blond) as she tries to get into the van and fail miserably for a long time. The guy with the beard is probably the… Read more »

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And she probably has been one of the entertainments of the night for our rich dudes.

Don’t be so sure of that…
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Hypergamy is Win/Not Lose if not Win/Win straight up…

Get on her level bitch!

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Those imgur links aren’t working fyi

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Loveroflife Decided I would just meet any woman anytime I liked the look of. There you go… when I went in this time, I was not looking for an interaction, I just went in with curiosity as to what might happen, open to any outcome and voila ended up on an instant date. Yep. Bobby Judge called this “testing the truth of the situation”… The “test” is the objective, the outcome. Not the result of the test. AKA “relaxing into it”… Of course you need to be able to speak “Catonese”, understand The Language of Female Seduction(tm) to be able… Read more »

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18?! They’re children. Lets keep is classy. Hitting on children isn’t on smile

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Palma Assuming they are slim – Erin a 6 and perhaps the other two are 7’s. All very bangable. spotted an IOI off one of them, slowed down and put my arm out for the link which she complied with, got everyone to link arms and got them chatting and got myself invited to a club with them. Baller… That is the key, to start acting on the IOI in the moment [cough… Culum…] Now worst case you roll up to the club with three animated young girls on your arm… Preselection, open and forward merge sets easily with girl… Read more »

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I agree with sentient. One in the middle a 6, other 2 possible 7’s. (slightly generous maybe, but around there somewhere for me)

Did you try to escalate on either? I bet @J would have just went for the instant makeout lol

When you say you ‘don’t have game’, what do you mean exactly? Have you not read or watched any PUAbooks or programs?

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Cousin had her 18th B-day yesterday and going round to see her and I know that this girl is gonna be there.

https://imgur.com/a/2YQBpAT

Gonna see if I can get any attraction at all out of her!

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That the same “five-head” girl you posted before? lol

Drop the exclamation point…

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”He’d have gone for – and got – the three some straight out the gate.. we know that”

haha!

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Palma No it was half past midnight and I was knackered – which is the precise reason for this current process I’m putting myself through. To get them WHEN I want them AND have logistics (including energy) to see it through, as opposed to the situation happening on their territory which are clubs at 4am. Yup. This is the Doing the Work(TM) part, that most guys wont do. They will just bitch about how hard it is… The good news it you are smart and open to learning and not an incel fagboy. so you don’t need too much reference… Read more »

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@Sentient and others: here is a funny Game situation in multiple ways. I’m interested in acquiring an (unusual) asset with a fixed (stable) income. Palma has suggested sending two persons in to the seller to make lowball offers to attempt to price condition the seller, then I offer my amount higher than that (but lower than the asking price that I already know is negotiable). That I get. Then Palma went “You have 2 plates, send them in, also DHV for them win/win” and I was like “Uh?”. So I’m like they are kind of lefty (the plates) and don’t… Read more »

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IAS So the setup is you are going to have your plates go in one after the other to buy this thing, and then you are going to show up after and do it? Not sure if I get the set up. Regardless, bringing your plates to observe you doing something high value is definitely a plus… [do they know each other? open harem here!] Don’t worry about triggering BB. Betu Bux trigger is in how you use your money with respect to their pussy. If they are just along for the ride, no problem. If you are using it… Read more »

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“If they rub their tits at the vendor he may even take their low ball offer” “bringing your plates to observe you doing something high value is definitely a plus[…]If they are just along for the ride, no problem[…]think about it more like a display of power, like if you brought them along to see you beat the guy up.” Have them do the work for you by sending the uglier of the two first (don’t let her know this is why you’re sending her in first heh). Have him reject her by making an offer way below the asking… Read more »

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“do they know each other?”

IAS: “N=3 and N=4 are from the same social circle and know each other […] At some point I even pulled N=3 and N=4 into a triangle and we were dancing to music while rubbing our asses together (ass to ass grinding basically), they were laughing their asses off as well”.

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“Open harem” I.e. do they know each other as IAS paramours.

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“do they know each other as IAS paramours”

lol not yet.

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@Sentient: not openly, if they either suspect or know they haven’t let it on.

Presumably girls are good at spotting stuff like that, but at what level I’m not sure. They probably spot the IOIs and kino I receive from the other which pre-selects me, but maybe not enough to make the leap from there to “he’s banging her as well”.

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Palma- all okay? More or less? Anything we can do to help?

Hope you’re not leaving the comments section permanently. Perhaps think about returning with a different username after some time.

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yeah what gives Palma?

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Not leaving but want to tie up loose ends in threads to batten down.

hope everything works out well…

good luck!

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“^^ basically every time I encounter adversity, she steps up with girl stuff.”

Rollo has posts on Standards and Vetting… smile

Now just let her blow you before you go and be done with it…

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@Palmasailor @HABD Thx.. but I’m an old scabby dog so will survive plant based bandits, plus I have cold beer.. I know what you’re gonna say but indulge me on your opinion of EEGF making a speshul journey to get me speshul biscuits (cookies) today. Serious escalation right? yep… it’s the next step on the girl game escalation ladder… the next step up from just arranging a meal or ‘sharing’… bc it’s her personal efforts to you personally and specifically… ^^ she didn’t buy anything else for anyone else ^^^ all you need to know…lol no special effort for old… Read more »

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“Standards & Vetting”

Do you have a link bc my google Fu isn’t linking me to what I think you have in mind?

Wait, what???

https://therationalmale.com/?s=Standards+%26+Vetting

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@Palmasailor @HABD ^^ everting you say is correct. Plus there’s the overt communication (when covert fails right?) Ie the verbalisation – she said: “I’m gonna do XYZ and then go to town to get you cookies” yikes!!!… (<— notice the 3!!! exclamation points…lol) get OUT!!!… the call came from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!!…lol Last night as I finished I was leaving and I got questioned “where are you going?” yikes!!!! (<— notice the 4!!!!…lol) depending on how this was said, she was either just making small talk… OR… she (her hindbrain) is showing some possessory interest in you… based on everything,… Read more »

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HEY! hamster!!! wake up and drop that towel!!!

Lolz…

Palma

I was kidding about standards and vetting, that is the next post in RT’s series though… Basically she is trying to make herself attractive to you…

Also…

this “she (her hindbrain) is showing some possessory interest in you… “

and this “I’ve lost 3 stone since divorce and can’t shift the final half stone…

I’ve told her this and she keeps buying them and I keep eating them… “

can be linked… with the idea that you “stay attainable” for her…

with all your stress… I expect a backrub to come your way in 3… 2… 1…. !

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Palmasailor

I’ve told her this and she keeps buying them and I keep eating them… and drinking cold beer.

Heh, obvious IOI is very obvious.
Agree with Sentient, you are soooo tense in the shoulders right now, even though you do not notice it. No worries! She’ll help with that too.

I’ll join with HABD: good luck!

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“No fucks given about age of consent either.”

Just remember, fifteen will get you twenty in Texas. There was this fifteen year old in Texas…lol…jk…

As to fifteen year old girls’ looks–back in the day there were plenty of fourteen year olds who looked like mature women. Even a few thirteen year olds.

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“I find older women (30+) much much easier to hook and bang than the 16-23 type girl,”

I’m not in high schools much these days, so the lower end of that range is outside my current experience…except for malls…sometimes young girls will hold my gaze…

Obviously, since I have girl friends in the 20-23 range who ask me out….

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“Obviously, since I have girl friends in the 20-23 range who ask me out….”

“Women have boyfriends and girlfriends. If you are not fucking her, you’re her girlfriend” – – Rollo Tomassi

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