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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Palmasailor

The same sentiment about facebook applies by me. For people my age communication is virtually all sc and ig. Although I lament about how toxic social media, especially sc and ig, can be on society as a whole, I by no means have bad texting game. That is a good rule to keep in mind though, thanks.

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Thank you to Sentient IRL Wahoo SJF and Centuries I appreciate the thoughts. Yes I think definitely time to Escalate my responses beyond being passive. I have to say the suggestions to escalate made by IRL are a bit scary. I could probably pull off the sexual comment one but it feels for now like a big leap to just walk out. Especially because it just seems excessive. I can understand doing it if my wife completely flips out over something but for a relatively small argument or her being a little upset it seems like overkill. Sentient’s framework of… Read more »

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@Wahoo – also I don’t think she was proud of his tantrum. She knew it was wrong but she can’t see the disconnect between that and her opinion that he should be more emotionally expressive.

No one is saying that he shouldn’t learn to control himself. But opinions differ on how, since her opinion has a contradiction built in. This is something I’m still figuring out in my head.

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Marquis, I am not suggesting you talk about fight club,rather that the truth is printed and displayed and to have her read or watch those articles. Maybe some of the guys can suggest some thing better.
Yes definitely lead.

https://pjmedia.com/drhelen/whats-under-the-hood-of-the-apa-guidelines-for-men-and-boys/

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“Plus in my ideal dating world verbal and face to face communication would be the gold standard. Ig I am tradcon in this regard.”

Yeah I suspected as much.

The RP does not care you are a Tradcon. Hypergamy does not care.

The point is establishing a relationship enough to lead to in person interactions, not the comms method. Use the tools at your disposal and if you don’t at least realize you are handicapping yourself and will have sub optimal outcomes.

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@TheMarquis you are still doing great… props!… and still getting great advice… just keep putting in the work… @IRL i KNEW you had that link!…lol @Palmasailor @Sentient / HABD So the texting with my son was degenerating into absurdity. I texted him and told him I was driving over to collect him and I wanted 10 minutes in the car. He said not to come over, but I got in the car and shared my live location so he knew I was in my way. Then I called the new ex wife’s new bloke and told him I wanted 10… Read more »

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Sentient I would not classify myself as tradcon in everything. I agree I have to use my resources. Everyone (especially Palma) I had an interesting convo with my dad today. He is 53, but one of these boomer conservative Trump cuck types. He was reading a statistic on facebook of why there is such a high suicide rate of males in Great Britain, and he asked me why I think that is so. I told him a little bit of my thoughts. Eventually it boiled down to him just denying feminizations role to degrading male fullfillment, and him denying the… Read more »

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Uh-Oh…. Lol.

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@Youngshagger I’m not sure what the question was there? I’m too busy working on my own stuff to worry about shit I can’t change. As far as the Male suicide rate in the UK is concerned, I don’t know much about it, but if I were a gambler then I’d say it’s more to do with men getting zeroed out than much else. At my age it’s difficult to recover from that. Bad credit for instance takes 6 years to recover from here. That’s a long no grind and I think a lot of men simply can’t see a light… Read more »

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Palmasailor

My question was more about suicide rate in UK, but I did not know if anyone else had a similar experience broaching RP with a family member.

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@YoungShagger

I don’t have any live family members apart from my son who is a year younger than you and I haven’t discussed the red pill with him in so many words.

In terms of older men, no one I’ve given the rational Male to has ever spoken to me again. I usually give it to them because their marriages have gone sexless etc.. and they don’t take it well.

I think the Male suicide rate here (which peaks at 45-50) is about men being zeroed out. Primarily losing their family and their wife, but also financial destruction.

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YoungShagger You are swerving into irrelevancies. Your dad is not going to change his ideas because of you debating him. I’m not sure if you have any mommy or daddy “issues”. But maybe you should state them if you do. Men go through phases with their fathers. They get chafed by how their father’s treat them at your age. And by their father’s ego investments. It serves no purpose to evangelize about red pill. Red pill is a praxeology. It’s not an ideology. Ideologies are a set of beliefs. (And often, no matter what is in place.) Politics and religion… Read more »

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” Society is no more broken than your frustrations in your individual purpose and plan as a red pill praxeologist…'”

Nope. Society is pretty fucked up.

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“Nope. Society is pretty fucked up.”

Even if it is, it doesn’t matter. No one man is going to change that, but each man has to get on with it and take from life what he can.

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“Nope. Society is pretty fucked up.” Even if it is, it doesn’t matter. No one man is going to change that, but each man has to get on with it and take from life what he can. All you have to do is scroll back through history. “Fucked up” is an opinion. And relative to how things ought to be, rather than how they are. What are you going to do about it? is a man’s prerogative and an exercise of free will. You can have any mindset you want. But you shouldn’t let others determine it for you. Or… Read more »

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Young Shagger,I think most of your dads argument is aimed at not getting to negative about the situation. The way I see things is there are differing ideals and then there is reality. Red pill isn’t ideal for civilised society rather it is the way we evolved and what we fall back on when the ideals fail. You can test your ideals to see if you really live up to your expectations of others realistically or if you just would if you could. At any rate the key is not to force concepts directly, look for the humor in it… Read more »

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You are right it is pretty irrelevant. In terms of “daddy issues” I do not have any. He is his own man, and I know it is futile to attempt an argument with him (too obstinate). Although it is unfortunate for me to see how his life has turned out this far. He is constantly miserable and cannot control his alcoholism no matter how bad he wants to or tried to. His alcoholism does not affect me though. I stay on my mission regardless.

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“He is his own man, and I know it is futile to attempt an argument with him (too obstinate). Although it is unfortunate for me to see how his life has turned out this far. He is constantly miserable and cannot control his alcoholism no matter how bad he wants to or tried to.” And… “You are right it is pretty irrelevant. In terms of “daddy issues” I do not have any….His alcoholism does not affect me though. I stay on my mission regardless.” One of these things is not like the other. And your mother is fine? It’s not… Read more »

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@YoungShagger

“He is constantly miserable and cannot control his alcoholism no matter how bad he wants to or tried to. His alcoholism does not affect me though. I stay on my mission regardless.”

To be honest I’d known there was something more to this from your first post here which is why I engaged so heavily.

Takes one to know one – My mother’s drug abuse was probably similar.

Talk if you want to – either here or privately.

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“He is constantly miserable and cannot control his alcoholism no matter how bad he wants to or tried to. His alcoholism does not affect me though. I stay on my mission regardless.” This is one of the paradoxes of alcoholism, the alcoholic with superhuman willpower will suffer delirium tremens, liver failure and capillary damage to the point of hemorrhage. After a certain point of no return the brain damage is to severe for short term recovery and can take years to return to normal. Takeaway, after the point of no return is reached willpower is off the table and treatment… Read more »

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LOLZ Old Buzzfeed article/hit piece on PUA and Mystery interview… A few choice nuggets drop… And yet, over the course of two interviews over the phone and in person in mid-August, Mystery steps into his light, hits his mark, and charms me, and I see, instantaneously, how he’s packaged himself into someone enticing and sweet. At a pub in Toronto where we meet, he shakes my hand and uses his real name when we talk. He tries to present as Hollywood (stupid hat, a lot of jewelry), but he has a recognizable Ontario accent, which is comforting to my local… Read more »

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Sentient Old Buzzfeed article/hit piece on PUA and Mystery interview… Only about a year old, so pretty new. New to me, anyway, since Buzzfeed is just another facet of the standard narrative. Pretty funny reading. Oh, teh MIssOgInEee! <blockquoteThe pickup artist’s influence on culture — one that has made me and women like me feel unsafe and angry — means that without question, I would like to hate Mystery. Lol. Yeah, because no women were angry until 2005 or maybe the 1990’s when alt.seduction.fast was newgrouped. Nope. Discontent in women is totally the fault of PUA’s, that’s why it’s never… Read more »

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classic scene

“my head feels all buzzy”

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You got me pegged wrong. I by no means have any white knight fantasies to “do better than my dad” so to speak. I want to accomplish my goals for me and have relationships that serve me in the future. It is about building the best life for myself regardless of any shortcomings my dad made. I would not say I am a promise keeper by any means. I strive in my life to reach my full capabilities for myself at the end of the day, no one else.

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Fair enough, YounShagger.

That is very healthy of you.

Thanks for that comment regarding you.

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fast night game pull

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She was super into his looks. Same as the lay reports I read at Nextasf etc. I’ve lost my love for infields and FR’s since this pattern seems to be so clear lol. I’m just not impressed anymore. ”You banged a girl who thought you were handsome?! – I can do that too ;)”

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A four minute pull is a recipe for swallowing some other man’s cum and all his shit.

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meh. Typical aggressive 6 (barely… very barely) “golden hour” pick up. Look at those girls around, all at best 6’s. And she was 30. And she bounced him, for chicken nuggets. lolzlozlzozlzozlzz

If I was trying to sell PUA stuff, I’d be way more selective about putting stuff out. But guys are so thirsty…

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“meh. Typical aggressive 6 (barely… very barely) “golden hour” pick up. Look at those girls around, all at best 6’s. And she was 30”

yeah gotta agree with Sentient here. Look at her stomach bro. As soon as she unzips her pants, you in for a surprise (ask me how I know…lmao). barely an ass. Cute face tho.

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Looking at this guy Kyle’s stuff. He understands game, he just doesn’t actually run much because the girls are so marginal…

Typical NJ “boy band” bro… Cue up “Summertime Lover”…

lolz

Still not a 7…

And look at the girls around there… yikes.

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PUA’s seem to like the old girls. They should take a leaf out of ‘thatwasepics’ book or something. They get actual super hot teenage girls (although they aren’t PUA’s)

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@sentient – ”meh. Typical aggressive 6 (barely… very barely) “golden hour” pick up. Look at those girls around, all at best 6’s. And she was 30. And she bounced him, for chicken nuggets. lolzlozlzozlzozlzz If I was trying to sell PUA stuff, I’d be way more selective about putting stuff out. But guys are so thirsty…” Yep. I agree. Also, yeah lol @ her bouncing him! First thing I noticed too. Surprised she didn’t mention an ‘after-party’ RSD style! ( If I was a PUA i’d not post the ones where girls are all over you calling you handsome and… Read more »

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Phil don’t be butthurt. Conflating mysterys propensity to go for old hags with competent PUAs. Thatwasepic doesn’t fuck the girls in his video. Notice his latest clip where he goes around telling girls they incompatible because of their zodiac sign, the girls go “awww 😔” then “ok bye 😛” then keep walking like no fucks given. (They ain’t stopping him “no no no please don’t leave good looking guy!”) Good looking guys are abundant. Good looking guys with game are not. Had he actually tried going on an instadate with these girls (instead “lol it’s just a prank bro”). And… Read more »

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Oh my Phil… [posts 15 yo clip…] Yawn

Last GF – https://www.instagram.com/p/Brbgc-0BmbW/ 26YO to his 47 years…

Discovery’s last GF – https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm4-aRzhYHQ/

even the faggy Beckster is in on it… https://www.instagram.com/p/o3m6EKD5bN/

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At least we still have old Tyler vids if you wanna see someone pulling girls above his ‘looksmatch’ (even if it did take him tonnes of approaches to find one who was interested)

PS – Unrelated – Julien Blanc got married recently?

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She was super into his look

Nah. Put your insecurity / anxiety away.

It’s really obvious.
He passed all her little tests…age? Where you from? Not used to New Jersey? Where are your friends? Etc.

Plus she didn’t want to be the girl who didn’t get taken home “All my friends are with guys they shouldn’t be with so I won’t introduce you”, lol.

He compromised on a little Provider – “chicken nuggets” – which is lol.

“Chicken nuggets? What are you, 8 year old? That’s not even food!” but it’s his infield.

It’s possible she and her girlfriends all have boyfriends “back home”, too.

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Well I’m willing to believe the chicken nuggets thing was an excuse to leave together. Unless he actually went and bought chicken nuggets…

It was her leading though. She picked him up. Because “girls fuck”.

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She gamed him. Bounced him to another location…and was planning on making out with him in the car,, then winding up ” someplace ” for the bang.

She picked him and pulled him. She decided long before that she was going to get dick. He walked in with a dick.

Presto!!!!

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“Unless he actually went and bought chicken nuggets…”

Top comment on youtube:

“Coach Kyle
4 days ago
(We didn’t get chicken nuggets)”

“It was her leading though. She picked him up. Because “girls fuck” she was super into his looks and passed her ensuing softball shit tests.”

“She decided long before that she was going to get dick.”

Yet. there she was. Leaving the club with nobody (pretty sure he wasn’t the only dude that approached her). Standing in the parking lot texting an uber to go back to her hotel alone when he showed up.

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She’d definitely have been hit on, but just not by anyone who she thought was good looking. She thought he was handsome thus it was extremely easy to get her in bed

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The better question to ask is why was “Coach” hanging around wating for a bleh girl to make a move on him…

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“why was “Coach” hanging around wating for a bleh girl to make a move on him…”

because he didn’t get anywhere with the girls (hotter?) in the club.

Coach Kyle: “this is at the end of the night after 3 hours of approaching lol ..I’m not always this smooth brotha”

So he settled for her…lol.

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“A four minute pull is a recipe for swallowing some other man’s cum and all his shit.”

Downvotes, lol. Sure, a girl won’t give some guy (with gonorrhea) a bj in the bathroom and swallow his cum and kiss you a minute later without using mouthwash because girls are speshul

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If you value your health at all, make girls rinse (with hard liquor or mouthwash) before you kiss. If a girl seems at all skanky, (e.g., prematurely aged or making out with multiple guys), wear protection.

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“She’d definitely have been hit on, but just not by anyone who she thought was good looking. She thought he was handsome thus it was extremely easy to get her in bed”

Nah, she’d already veto’d prospects and had given up. Kyle shows up and he’s better than nothing. Possibly he had lower SMV than prospects whom the girl had veto’d and who had left already.

Sometimes you just have to show up at the right time.

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LSDGamer’s homosexual fantasies – not that there’s anything wrong with that – belong somewhere else, like on his own blog. Nobody here wants to read that stuff.

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Mouthwash😂😂

Blowing a guy in the bathroom, swallowing, then kisses you.😂😂😂

Asd where the fuck are you hanging out?????

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The better question to ask is why was “Coach” hanging around waiting for a bleh girl to make a move on him…

Oh, well, that’s easy. He was just showing other men “how it’s done” at closing time, for sure. On his own he would have been outa there with a girl 2 hours earlier but he stuck around to demonstrate for the noobs.

Totally sure. Yep;

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Does coach Kyle specialize in how to pickup thirsty 6’s?

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“Mouthwash😂😂 Blowing a guy in the bathroom, swallowing, then kisses you.😂😂😂 Asd where the fuck are you hanging out?????” where there are drunk girls who don’t give a shit who they kiss after swallowing cum guess you’ve never read Tucker Max or heard girls tell you about how they forgot to use mouthwash after swallowing cum, then kissed some desperate PUA. lol lol @Blax’s Blue Pill fantasies that some girls are more “speshul” than others…AWALT, because biology…some actually are special cases if they have been well-trained I bet there are PUAs here who will tell you that girls have told… Read more »

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and here’s a tipsy HB7 (that was all over him) he failed to close earlier in the night.

HB8 @ 10:55-10:56 walking thru on the right.

Nova’s HB rankings:

HB6 = good face + ok body / good body + ok face
HB7 = good face + good body
HB8 = great face + great body
HB9 = your personal HB8 type (“dude she’s a fucking model for Victoria’s Secret!!” just because she’s a professional model who gets paid on her looks, doesn’t entitle her to an HB9 rating).

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😂 Asd I missed your foolishness these past few days. First: I’ve never been a bottom feeder trolling bars for drunk bitches. Second: yes, girls that are drunk will fuck you or anyone else for that matter. I ignore drunk/high chicks unless I’m the one that got them drunk or high. Third: please, tell me more about what women have told you or what you’ve witnessed them doing when drunk in bars. Fourth: I’m not a big reader of what some dude wrote ( outside of fr’s ) about what he did or what was done to him by drunk… Read more »

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@theasdgamer

“I have seen girls making out with multiple guys. Grinding on multiple guys.”

No bro. THIS definitely does happen on a regular night out. Just that this:

“Blowing a guy in the bathroom, swallowing, then kisses you.”

Is why blax is out here questioning where the fuck you hanging out that this happens on a regular basis? That your brain automatically goes “oh 4 minute pull = she just took another guy’s load in the bathroom earlier that same night. Is it possible? absolutely. Is it probable?
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Lol @ guys who were triggered by the thought that they might have made out with a broad after she gave some other guy a bj that night. Lol @ Blue Pill fantasies that girls won’t do this shit…when drunk, for revenge, to scorn a beta bf or husband, or just because…because, she’s so hot, bro! She’s speshul! Girls that go to my club are speshul and won’t do this shit! Pro Tip: This shit happens everywhere. Not sure of the frequency…can’t rely on CH to find a study on the subject any more. Maybe someone will post about this… Read more »

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“Is it possible? absolutely. Is it probable?”

The question isn’t whether it’s probable for one bitch, but whether you can avoid eventually being a victim if you are making out with drunk bitches.

Maybe it’s better if you never find out.

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😂😂😅😅😄😅😂😂

You’re killing me!!!!

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Thanks for introducing me too an new PUA – I like watching infields.
Although i’m 3 infields in now and they all have the girl telling him he’s ‘cute’ within a few seconds so I don’t think there’s much to learn.
Same as Max’s ‘natural’ infields – girls just think he’s good looking but he thinks it’s his ‘game’ lol

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Field Report My favorite bartender is not behind the counter–she’s holding a drink and opens me, telling me that she’s sick and going home. I reply, “Sick of work.” It’s a teasing, asshole comment. I tell her that I hope she gets well, just in case she’s not faking and leave. So I go to the beauty sculpture bartender and she’s friendlier than usual and even comps me water which the bar is now charging for. Later, she is also outside the counter talking to some young guy and turns from him–turning her back completely to him–to talk to me.… Read more »

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LR Been a while since I’ve written one of these. But I liked this one, in that the ending was epic. to an otherwise, shitty beginning. Will share a beautiful gambit developed in the Facebook group chat. As well as my usual cunning tactics…. Had trouble finding which bar I wanted to go to last night. Music wasn’t inspiring me and I was’t all that horny. this lead to being stuck in my head. Opening zero girls for the first 2 hours. Walking around outside with my earphones in. Trying to listen to music or any bad ass scenes I… Read more »

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Interesting encounter. Get off my flight, head over to some seats by the gate to organize some things in my bag. Sunglasses on 😎 Note a sweet looking thing sitting a few seats away. She is putting sometging in her bag. She sees Me and gives a quarter smile. Very slight. Then focused on her bag. I open. “So what are you up to today?”. She says she is waiting for her connection. I say me too. Mine’s delayed. Hers as well. She says she going to get a bite. I say me too. Come with me. And she grabs… Read more »

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“She’s blushing and saying OMG how did this happen! Who are you? I say didn’t mama warn you about talking to strangers? Now I move her napkin off her lap and expose her upper thigh. Stroke it. Laser. I say “little red riding hood was just taking a walk to grannies… And she met the big bad wolf””

hahaha I love it.

P O W E R F U L stuff.

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Good stuff from Sentient.

One thing I want to add is that for guys reading, some of the dialogue and lines may come across as “weird” when you read it – but when you’re in the bubble and laser is locked in and the connection is there it doesn’t sound weird at all. It feels absolutely normal and right.

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Weird??? Ha.

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Sentient – the sex talk, yes, to a guy who isn’t used to speakign that way with women. It would definitely have come across strange and contrived to me a decade ago, when I didn’t have experience of actually having that kind of conversations with women.

Hell, I remember feeling nervous even about asking women to send me sexy pictures when we were texting..

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So I’m living with same mate in the week and the threesome date with same girl hasn’t happened yet Meanwhile same mate, his hot younger Eastern European GF (EEGF) and I went out and had dinner and drunk too much a few days back. I’ve met his EEGF many times and talk to her but never discuss women / girlfriends etc.. she’s never seen me lust after women / I don’t flirt with her / nil nada / nothing on that front but laugh and joke a bit and make small talk. My mate has however told her that I… Read more »

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** by the way, despite working with women for years and years and dozens and dozens of them have suggested “setting me up with a friend”.

It’s never happened, not once.

I don’t think they ever set up their backup man with a “friend” unless it’s to park him with one they think they can pluck him away from later if they want to.

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@Palma I seem to say this in every other post, but YaReally wrote a lot about this dynamic and how to handle it. From what I recall, basically, be discreet, don’t do bf/gf/relationship type stuff with her (only sex) etc. He also minimized how much personal information the girls had about him (only his first name, even if he took them home, he would kiss them as they went in so they wouldn’t notice apartment number etc) but that kind of stuff may not be practical for you. But the rest of his advice will apply. He also said if… Read more »

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@Culum

It won’t be her chasing me. She’s basically married this guy, and his house will be worth anything between £1-£10m where it is.

Plus whatever cash he’s got. Could be a lot more.

It’s about me not looking like I’m gonna blow that up for her.

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Women don’t set their Plan B guy up with a friend unless it is in the circumstances you describe. They do share their fuckbois/Alpha Fux though – the secret society guys.

YaReally’s advice was not on the basis that the girl was looking to branch-swing and make him her new boyfriend – his general vibe made it clear that wasn’t a possibility. It was more to avoid messy scenes and angry boyfriends and that sort of thing if it came out that she was cheating.

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@Culum

Yes..

So it feels like I’m being put through a process – an interview

For a bigger job than the one woman

Because there are loads of these women where I am.

For this reason I think my next move has to be nothing.

They need to come to me..

Non needy DGAF

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I feel like I’ve been watched for months. These women have a LOT to lose

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@Culum

So some of these local women are in play with their husbands for big settlements. Largest local one I heard about, and I’ve met the woman, was £20M

Other one I know about has been told she’ll only get 2, but if she does a couple more years she’ll get 5.

So it’s high stakes.

Am I being tested on a low stakes sister?

Or am I imagining things?

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@Palma – possible, but I doubt there is that level of master-plan stuff at play. Probably just your secret society vibe leading to a recommendation to someone trusted – and then if that goes well, the network builds. No doubt the local MILF network gossips about you (I get the impression you’re not in a huge city or anything so the group can’t be that big), but I doubt there is a group effort that is testing you with a low-stakes woman. More likely the woman who recommended you has put forward someone trusted… ..but hey, anything’s possible. And these… Read more »

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Ask for a photo to see what EE girl looks like. Face and body. If she looks good, then tell EEGF that you want to meet her (EE girl) for a drink. Then all you guys go back to your flat. And bang. If you play your cards right, you could even have a MFF threesome. If she doesn’t look good, then all of this doesn’t matter. But yeah…get that photo. Don’t be reckless by going to her place, risking her getting caught by her man and losing the £££ house. That wouldn’t be very secret society of you…

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@J

Seen her

Would bang++

And it’s with EEGF who is going to “arrange something”

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“Sex is not a big deal to women, in that they can always get it.” True. I’m now gaming an HB8 24 year old. We’ve gone out 4-5 times. She has resisted sex although she likes to me grabbing her ass and escalating. It’s a game. She resists, I ignore her, she escalates, I resist. What she’s more interested in is getting inside my mind, “discovering” me…and gets all tingly about meeting up, dressing up for me etc. It’s a very primitive mating game. I will eventually bang her. But clearly the mental sex is much more important than the… Read more »

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@palma “And it’s with EEGF who is going to “arrange something”” You need to follow up, mate. As you said, you’ve had tons of girls suggest arranging something with a friend, and its never happened. Stop wanking off at this “I’m not doing anything. Girls have to come to me” garbage. You are a man. You want something to happen. Then you need to make it happen (in this case, by nudging EEGF, to ask EE girl for a drink with you @ X place). Don’t mistake this for being ‘needy’. Neediness is a mindset. Not a behavior. The girl’s… Read more »

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@j

Ok I’ll follow it up.

Didn’t think “chasing it” was the right thing to do but I’ll get her number and get her out to the pub.

Thanks

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4 dates is a long time..

I made the mistake of doing 8 once and the sex was terrible.

I just get bored with them if I don’t get them into the sack between 1-3..

The line is definitely 3 now, no matter about anything else

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Palma

“So EEGF has said she wants to set me up with EE girl because she “EE girl wants the sex”.”

That’s it. Secret society intro secret handshake…

This is Why I told Culum not to worry about banging girls in his social circle and small town.

Have fun.

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“For a bigger job than the one woman

Because there are loads of these women where I am.”

Yeah man. Burden. Never ends…

“This old porch is just a big old red-and-white Hereford bull
Standing under a mesquite tree out in Agua Dulce
Just keeps on playing hide-and-seek with that hot August sun
He’s sweating and a-panting ’cause his work is never done, oh no
I’ve known a whole lot of ol’ bulls in my life, and their work is never done”

https://genius.com/Robert-earl-keen-the-front-porch-song-lyrics

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Palma

“And it’s with EEGF who is going to “arrange something””

Well there you go. She is coming to you.

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@Culum Where I am in the week – where this is playing out population is 20,000 Where I am weekends is 250,000 but also 11 million visitors a year. Better pickings is in the former in my opinion. Think very old English village where 4 weddings and a funeral was filmed. There is a bit of history here, my nickname is “dirty palmasailor” despite the fact that no one local has ever sampled the goods. It’s all in their imagination based on the fact that I never talk about it and I’ve been a bit of a boy about town.… Read more »

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So I’ve got back from the pub and it turns out that EEGF has been out with EE girl..

Despite all the talk a few days ago Nothing was mentioned. I said “hey get me her number I need to book her in” and EEGF says she needs to speak to the EE friend first.

Oh right, you’ve just got back from a night out with her and didn’t mention it…..

As I’ve said it’s never happened.. probably because I’ve never been banging the referrer as AF..

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@palma “Despite all the talk a few days ago Nothing was mentioned” what did I say about not waiting on the sidelines for something to “just happen”? “I said “hey get me her number I need to book her in” and EEGF says she needs to speak to the EE friend first.” Good. Now she’s gonna tell her friend about you “probably because I’ve never been banging the referrer as AF” The sex story that I’ve shared most often, involves me arriving in my AirBnB on a Thursday night. The hostess knew I was going to one of the most… Read more »

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@J I have to be a bit careful what I’m doing as there’s just no way I’m going anywhere near anything that’s banging my mate. With this friend that’s off limits. Don’t get me wrong, about 15 years ago I banged a business associates daughter who was at university so I’m not claiming to be on some sort of moral high ground. But I get what you say about pushing for what you want. I’m still calibrating in two areas : Younger women Secret society – married ones (just not ones that are involved with very good friends). Although I’ve… Read more »

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Palms I think your gut instinct was right, have her come to you. J is dealing with a younger demo with less baggage. “. I said “hey get me her number I need to book her in” and EEGF says she needs to speak to the EE friend first.” Calibration is hard on this. Another way to approach this would have been to give EEGF your number, perhaps on paper, and have her friend get in touch with you. So she’s tasked with making it happen and you aren’t chasing. Preserves your non needy position. Then if she did get… Read more »

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@Sentient So at the moment I’m working as a builder during the day and doing appointments for my new startup in the evenings. Net result is I’m probably in the best physical shape I’ve been in decades. EEGF sees me in shorts and t shirt every day. I have 3 staff in the new startup and I’m going on a girls weekend with 8 women including two I employ at the end of the month. EEGF was really “surprised” about that. I’ll just refuse to comment on what happened on tour when I get back because I never kiss and… Read more »

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@Palma 4 dates is a long time.. I made the mistake of doing 8 once and the sex was terrible. I just get bored with them if I don’t get them into the sack between 1-3.. The line is definitely 3 now, no matter about anything else”” It would be except it’s low investment on my part so ghosting her would be shooting myself in the foot. I have 3 other plates so I’m not sitting around hoping she’ll bang me. She is interested. I think she’s inexperienced and the age gap requires additional comfort. At one point she did… Read more »

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@Blax: Let’s see, something that wala wouldn’t call ” yesterday man-ish “, lol. More recently I grew the meetings we had for young men/youth from it’s initial 50-100 attendees to ( the last one ) 1,500. Some of by best buddies said that younger dudes wouldn’t listen to any guy my age or over 30 years old. I was told judges and lawyers and law enforcement wouldn’t volunteer their time because nobody gave a fuck and that I was just wasting my time. Now that I have less free time ( work constraints ), I’m calling out the ” religious… Read more »

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http://www.tremcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/20150918_103004.jpg

Wala’s weekly delivery of haterade.

Thanks for the sideways compliment, but it only shows that you really don’t get it.

Dad sweater…😂 that’s a good one.

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@walawala

These things are worth it if you’re enjoying it or if you’re establishing a pattern that you can replicate.

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I figured out the meaning of a code word for a group that meets so people can pair up at the end of the night at a bar. A broad invited me into the group a couple of times and told me the code word but didn’t explain the meaning. (Why would she invite me into the group?) I asked one of the guys in the group if the code word was happening that night. “How’d you know about that” was his response.

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Dunno why I suddenly had the urge to check this, but this guy “of wudan” – he with the war rooms and big bank balance?

Neither of “his cars” are legitimately registered.

They are U.K. privatised plates (that means old ones that have been transferred from another vehicle) and should be registered; but they’re not.

https://imgur.com/a/gDo0o3e

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Palma

That funny if not unexpected. I think the Tate’s will go to jail eventually.

And the greatest PUA Owen ever raised got married.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2Pp7Z8H0W9/?igshid=g1rvtspeeh54

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…but why would he get married when there are billions and billions of hawt 20 year old hb9-10’s all over the place?

Did he hit his head?

Time. That shit reveals all.

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@Sentient. Great breakdown of that interaction. The age thing is irrelevant just shows game works it’s just a matter of calibration . The short shorts at her age would be a tell. But the other thing to pull from this is the logistics suck. You spike her buying temperature And then there’s no where to go with it which is where most guys get blown out…this happens and the next time he texts her he has to start from the beginning which is why a comfort shift from attraction is critical. I now bounce back and forth to always be… Read more »

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Wala “But the other thing to pull from this is the logistics suck. ” Yep. There really is no place to isolate away from eyes inside the security ring at any of the airports I’m in. This is just a bit of fun. Stepping up, seeing where it can go in an hour. From my perspective it’s all just an opportunity to practice and you usually get something from it. That “heels to bed” line is new and will go into the toolbox. And there is no real downside. So at best it leads to a little snogging and a… Read more »

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