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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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@Palmasailor @Morpheus Your problem is gonna be that she’s going to want to move in with you and because you’ve come out of a shit situation and she’s gonna fuck you til you can’t walk there’s a big risk you’ll get blinded by the hole and fall into exactly the same shit you’ve just got yourself out of. Bang her but avoid “boyfriend like activities”. Scribs said up thread somewhere that he didn’t understand why men marry again, and it is precisely this situation, you’ll fall in, think “she’s different” and put a ring on it before you’ve completed your… Read more »

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Gang, quick Field Report with some events in the last couple of weeks I’ve been meanign to write about – just to illustrate/think through a couple of points: First. In a coffee shop line – Cute HB7 mid 20s walking out past me (maybe 7.5 even – quite eyecatching) – about 6-10 feet away from me, eyes lock on and we have solid EC – it was under a second but definitely noticeable. Then (the reason I mention it), as she walks past me she jostles my arm. It wasn’t crowded, there was plenty of space on the other side,… Read more »

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PS – I should add that of course I know she was attracted to me and there was chemistry between us (both today and 18 years ago) – but I’m not sure what/how much to read into her remembering me etc. In fact I just remembered now as I type this – at one point during the conversation she even said something like “I couldn’t even concentrate on the questions being asked to the panel even though I had to answer them..I saw you and thought “I know him from somewhere” and then I just kept going back in my… Read more »

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One final PS – also remembered she is married and never mentioned her husband. It was all “I moved from City A to City B”, etc not “We”. No kids (I think) in late 30s. It only came up when she said something like “I…got married…but that’s not why I changed my name..I just did it because of visa hassles when moving abroad” and that’s it.

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Morpheus Just be sure and pull that pan OFF the flame when you pour in the brandy. Culum All right… some good progress. Let’s hit the “next steps”… Cute HB7 mid 20s walking out past me (maybe 7.5 even – quite eyecatching) – about 6-10 feet away from me, eyes lock on and we have solid EC – it was under a second but definitely noticeable. Then (the reason I mention it), as she walks past me she jostles my arm. It wasn’t crowded, there was plenty of space on the other side, and it wasn’t a light touch –… Read more »

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Gratuitous pre workout RATT video…

btw – since the death of the music vid, what are all those models doing these days…?

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Hehe I knew this guy would have a RATT video… Bad song, better video…

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Lol, a big cup of Ratt to start the day!!!!!

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@Culum lol… do you even TRM, bro?…lol Gang, quick Field Report with some events in the last couple of weeks I’ve been meanign to write about – just to illustrate/think through a couple of points: First. In a coffee shop line – Cute HB7 mid 20s walking out past me (maybe 7.5 even – quite eyecatching) – about 6-10 feet away from me, eyes lock on and we have solid EC – it was under a second but definitely noticeable. Then (the reason I mention it), as she walks past me she jostles my arm. It wasn’t crowded, there was… Read more »

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@Culum

oh ya… i almost forgot…

how’s that FI treatin’ ya?…lol

(thanks for the reminder @Sentient…lol)

good luck!

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Congrats Palma!

You’ve managed to set yourself up as the perfect branch swing candidate.

A bad boy who is looking to settle down.

If you really want to avoid issues, move out. Now.

Else I suspect she will next do something that allows her to show herself naked to you. Walk out in a towel that slips a little etc. Or you “catch” her by “surprise” getting changed etc.

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That scottish Daygamer has been in prison for 9 months whilst awaiting charges for ‘harassment’. (which sounds like approaching a hot 17 year old and trying to get her number from what I gather) Seems odd. I’d assume that’s longer than any actual sentence would be. But then read this this morning! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7557947/Shy-awkward-student-19-faces-JAIL-sex-assault-conviction.html Potential 10 years for this teen for touching a girls arm? Kind of baffled. Is it that bad in the UK? I often see Field Reports from UK guys on reddit/seddit, and it seems they get much harsher, faster rejections, even in bars, than other posters. Rarely… Read more »

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“…or are you dealing with an anxious and awkward young man, someone who struggles to make friends by his own admission? He is a particularly shy, anxious young man who spends most of his time studying with his parents.’ “

He needs a mentor:

https://freenortherner.com/omegas-guide/

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@Palmasailor wow!… and yikes!!!…(<— how’s that for combining my two new words of the week?…lol) @HABD / sentient “lol… that girl is smoooooooth…lol” I feel that this is going from bad to worse, and I’m effectively up against a master chess player. remember… this is ALL her hindbrain… SHE is like a third-person observer too…lol… she just gets feelings she follows… but ya…lol Bear with me on this bit: Because some stuff is actually two handed I need the odd help out and she’s the only one here so we are doing the odd thing “together”. Yesterday was a shit… Read more »

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“Old friend pipes up “don’t know why you give a shit about her, you’ve had Loads of women and you haven’t put any SERIOUS effort into finding one for the last 2 years””

Good wingman

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“he’s not helping your situ… or his… although he doesn’t know that”

Oh we’re not trying to help him bang her?

Gay

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Have you guys seen? RSD seems to have got out of the PUA business completely. All PUA related videos are gone off Youtube for all instructors (they still have old videos up but only the most generic ones, not the direct Game/pickup related stuff) they’ve rebranded to general self help. The website too – there are a few lingering references to game but basically, pickup, getting girls all gone. Tyler has been talking for ages about moving to the larger self-help market, but not sure why he’s burning his bridges by eliminating his steady cash flow from the PUA products… Read more »

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“general gender war can it?”

What RSD is – a shrewd marketing machine. They are just following the market.

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“Game did create attraction. Also, most PUAs used to apply approach tactics to create attraction.” Comment from the now defunct site seductionmyth.com back in 2011: “You can not create attraction where there is no attraction. Attraction is nearly instantaneous, it’s in the subconscious mind, it’s a natural reaction to unconscious signals a woman or a man picks up on… a smell, a look, a face, a smile, a voice. It exists without awareness. But creating attraction and seducing a person to do something are not the same. A woman can be attracted to a man and turned off by what… Read more »

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Sentient, HABD. Oof. Okay, point taken. Couple more things I remembered (it doesn’t change the analysis just more for the sake of me recording the factors): -In the panel discussion itself (before she came and introduced herself at the end), another panelist made a reference to a fairly obscure poem. Then I asked a question a while later and quoted the poem from memory to illustrate something in my question to the other panelist and out of the corner of my eye, I saw Conference Girl looking at me and nodding with a BIG grin on her face, like “yes!… Read more »

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@Palma – bang your friend’s ex-girlfriend if you want to enjoy yourself I guess, but how would that help your situation with current EEGF? It’ll just give you more social proof and bad boy street cred and increase her interest in you..

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“RSD seems to have got out of the PUA business completely.”

Many are happy to see them leave:

https://imgur.com/a/bC6WOIi

It seems the more experience I get, the more I find myself agreeing with blax.

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Okay guys, so interesting Field Report from last night (when I started doing the Eye Contact thing). I’m 90% sure she was a hooker, but would be interested to see if you guys agree because there were a few things that were off – like her not asking for money or being more direct etc (even if she was a hooker, what I find fascinating is just how fast interesting things can happen to me when I’m alert and engaged with my surroundings and making eye contact etc instead of just drifting through life). I’m still in my conference city,… Read more »

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@Palma – I think it is more likely that it will just increase your social proof with EEGF. But then again, at this point you may as well try something new. The most obvious solution for you is just to NOT be around her or interact with her – but if that’s not possible due to the work you’re doing, then maybe you can try this. Clear it with your old friend first (not like “I’m going to bang your ex – is that okay?”, more like bring up the possibility as a joke or sometihing and see how he… Read more »

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I suspect she was a hooker, probably a newish one and when you stopped leading and went boring she thought you were a cop. 👮 So she shut it down.

Had a similar experience in NOLA, nice looking 7. Big IOIs but it became clear early she was a hooker and when I said I’m not paying she broke off and didn’t want to chat further.

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@Culum I don’t care if she was a hooker or not but a couple game notes for future non-hooker girls: “I was like “what are you up to?” and she was like “just walking around”. So I turned around (facing the way she was going) and said “okay, I’ll walk with you for a while..it’s a nice night” (I don’t think she understood everything I said but she got the gist of it) and I could see her looking a bit skeptical and hesitant and then complying and walking along (me guiding her a bit with hand on her back… Read more »

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@Palmasailor @HABD / Sentient How about this for an idea – what if I go and bang friends ex girlfriend… (she’s married by the way). He wouldn’t care about that… See this from her https://imgur.com/a/QB9CFe7 lol… sooo, your hindbrain seems to really be workin’ against you…lol not only would you get some pre-selection for banging a married girl… you set a precedent for banging girls that are ‘done with’ old friend… not helping your situ…lol ping your son, maybe you can talk him into meeting for dinner… ‘just the two of you…bc you have to catch up’… else, just get… Read more »

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@Culum Sentient, HABD. Oof. Okay, point taken. Couple more things I remembered (it doesn’t change the analysis just more for the sake of me recording the factors): -In the panel discussion itself (before she came and introduced herself at the end), another panelist made a reference to a fairly obscure poem. Then I asked a question a while later and quoted the poem from memory to illustrate something in my question to the other panelist and out of the corner of my eye, I saw Conference Girl looking at me and nodding with a BIG grin on her face, like… Read more »

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@Culum Okay guys, so interesting Field Report from last night (when I started doing the Eye Contact thing). I’m 90% sure she was a hooker, but would be interested to see if you guys agree because there were a few things that were off – like her not asking for money or being more direct etc (even if she was a hooker, what I find fascinating is just how fast interesting things can happen to me when I’m alert and engaged with my surroundings and making eye contact etc instead of just drifting through life). I’m still in my conference… Read more »

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Culum The only question is as HABD says how let go of that “rock in the river” that I’ve been stuck on for a couple of years now. just gotta do it… This. Stop “planning” and just start acting. Your “hey” was a great first step, not your fault it was a Mongolian hooker… Just keep ACTING as you spot stuff. And then act again when you spot more stuff. and again etc. That’s the whole cycle, just a series of interactions based on stimulus… And yeah DON’T go giving guys a lot of direct eye contact, unless you want… Read more »

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Lmao.

Thanx Palma.

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….. oh shit. I think I’m blushing. Lol.

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Good stuff Palma… “The last few weeks have convinced me that women actually have no choice who they are attracted to so you should be able to pull most things at Will.” Nice. Now how far have you gotten into MM? Did you finish it? The lock in props are for her. Hard to tell from your narrative but with German it seems like you didn’t get to much compliance. Sure you venue hopped but it reads like you waited for her rather than other way around. Also didnt see any comfort/rapport. That said you gave up too easy on… Read more »

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Palma “I ask how they know each other and she says bloke is her partner and other woman is her sister.” The thing to do here and the other barmaid set is to engage the group. You had some iois from one sister… That’s transferable to the other you know… Anyhow you engage the group, become the AMOG then you venue bounce them. You walk into your bar hop with two hot girls… You now have options. You have the partnered sister… You have the free sister… You have preselection from coming in with two hot girls for the german… Read more »

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Palma

Ahhh. So the German was on the bar hop as well?

“I can’t believe what a chump he is ”

Lol. That guy was way into black cock… Girl not as much….

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If they are on the bar top, and the group is bouncing. It’s not compliance. That’s what was missing. Didn’t quite grasp the sequence in your first telling.

So with respect to Palma, where was the A2 from this girl? Just some general IOI at the beginning. Not much A2 from your report. I suspect the kiss was not on. As you sensed.

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Palma

The Game is the Game because it works. It’s observable and repeatable.

We can all try and fit the Game into our own predilections and reference experiences. The trouble with that it is inconsistent.

When you go the other way, and fit your predilictions and experience into the Game, you make big leaps and get more consistent outcomes.

Just takes Doing The Work. Part of the work is breaking down what happens when things don’t come off. To me that is the most valuable.

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Nice FR palmasailor. Age of consent is 16 in the UK? Would be inspiring if you get bang a few 16-20 year olds from cold approach! I was disappointed in Tylers attempts with the much younger girls in his final few videos before he rebranded/quit RSD. He was getting mainly rejected/ignored or getting the very occasional makeout (with the help of his wingwoman/girlfriend who seemed to kind of make it happen) and I couldn’t help but think it was his age, but would love to see some succeed as I’m certainly all about the much much younger girls. In terms… Read more »

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Palma

“Amirite?”

Yup. That’s it.

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Hopefully will have an FR of my own tomorrow. Had a mildly hot spell, but last 2 weeks have been brutal. (Last weekend in particular!). Going out with a big time slayer dude tonight to do some nightgame which may or may not be a good idea for my mental health!! smile (having hot girls opening him and outright flirting with him kills my state!)

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@Palma

“I’m absolutely convinced that younger are easier than “age appropriate””

Good to see you starting to question and try new things. But I have something for you to think about.

Who determines what is age appropriate? Did you think it through one day and come to a decision about what is “age appropriate” or does that idea just seem to be there in your mind? (I’m trying to help you find another FI program executing in your mind that most men have been propagandized with.)

Keep up the good work!

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@wentworth “Age of consent is 16 in the UK? Would be inspiring if you get bang a few 16-20 year olds from cold approach! I was disappointed in Tylers attempts with the much younger girls in his final few videos before he rebranded/quit RSD. He was getting mainly rejected/ignored or getting the very occasional makeout (with the help of his wingwoman/girlfriend who seemed to kind of make it happen) and I couldn’t help but think it was his age, but would love to see some succeed as I’m certainly all about the much much younger girls. In terms of physical… Read more »

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Profile of the day:

I will never date someone who:

“Has or wears no suits”.

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Sharing my current iteration of my game to compliment my looksmaxxing guide (https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-133/#comment-280398) Shoutout to Gunwitch, Saul Tee, Gabriel Grey, Teevster, Bacchus and JP for the inspiration. INNER GAME If you do nothing, you get nothing. Trying will make you feel good because you took a risk. She could be the one for you and even if she’s not interested, you’ll be able to exit gracefully. It can’t happen if the excuses you cling to, for fear of stepping outside of your comfort zone, get in your way. Anything that you’re not enjoying, take a step back and realizing and… Read more »

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Well, who determines… on what level? Legal and cultural, it’s a co-operative effort of the èlite and the majority of people, not?
Truth-wise… we know it’s usually below 18, and it can vary a lot depending on the person one is talking about.
Some girls look more than ready to couple, and even to sink adult men’s lives for that matter, soon as they are 13.
Others look as if they’d better remain virgins up to later than 20.

This applies to men too. I had my first time at 24, and before then it would have been too early, for me.

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“he liked to point out how Tyler looked and that he was still banging ” hotties “, but in the videos posted that’s not what I ever saw.”

Truth.

https://redpilltalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=2252739#p2252739

Took me a long time to see this but yeah.

Completely unrelated note…sharing this cause I thought it was funny.

https://imgur.com/a/FWww2hB

Aight peace!!!

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@Sentient, HABD, @j LOL. I deserved that I think. I did think she was a hooker 90%, just wasn’t certain because of the not asking for money etc plus the area is not a redlight area etc. Besides, it was an interesting experience out of nowhere, which was fun to see how far I could take it. Noted on the turning around/lack of leading. @HABD – yes, my posture improvements have carried over into daily life, outside of training. I’m not perfect and slouch sometimes, but for the most part, standing/sitting straight is unconscious and internalized now – aka I’m… Read more »

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uneventful FR i’m afraid, but i’ll do a writeup anyway. Went out with good looking mate. Opened a hot girl with amazing legs at the bar with a situational opener that I was gifted (some guy threw his pint glass at the barman because the barman wouldn’t serve this guys drunk girlfriend). Opened her about that. Laughed with her. Teased her. Done a little cold read and asked her who she was with. She was with a group of coke head guys who were playing pool a few meters away and she went back to them after getting served as… Read more »

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Hey all. Thought I would give a quick update. It is quarter of the way into the school year, and I can happily report that I am on track to reclaim the number one spot in my class (valedictorian). My wrestling training is going really well, and I feel primed to make a dominant state run this year en route to my second state title. Virtually all of my time has been dedicated to training and studying, so I have kinda entered a bit of a monk mode. Last night was my school’s homecoming, and I grinded with a lot… Read more »

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And yes before you guys flame me for entertaining ideas of fools mate, in my defense homecoming at my school is a bit more of a special occasion where girls have less inhibitions.

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It was my latest squeeze’s birthday yesterday. I just got home after being away for a couple of weeks. She comes over on my request & I’m tired so just make us both a quick gourmet 2 minute noodle meal as she wanted to go out to a community film nite. When we get home I present her with a very basic shop bought cake with candles and some sexy lingerie. She giggled and cooed. As she was in the red zone, for ‘her birthday’ I got 2 enthusiastic balls popping blow jobs (CIM) that night and another first thing… Read more »

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Palma

” I think their hindbrain is programmed to breed with the FITTEST RIGHT NOW!”

Welcome to capital G Game…

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YoungShagger my game is a bit off. YS – look you are a noob. You have NO game. and you haven’t been practicing. Having accomplishments is not = to Game. my calibration seems a bit off. I think I am coming on too strong at times. Yup. Confidence and entitlement not = to Game. What is annoying is that I am a physically attractive guy, so I feel like I should be able to get with whoever I want if my game was solid. yeah… Elliot Rodger kinda thought this too. It’s not how Attraction works. On one hand I… Read more »

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@YoungShagger

“Although one of the girls I quite raunchily danced with had to be DTF and I am working on getting her over to my place soon to hookup”

No need to stay in monk mode. Look for the low hanging fruit like this so you don’t have to invest a lot of time. In particular look for:

1) Girls who chat you up while giving IOIs (for example pay attention to what they do with their hands)
2) Girls who show up to watch or cheer wrestling

Then isolate with something innocent, “study session”, “netflix”. Have fun!

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Palma,

I read MM. I think I got to just follow it more to a T in the field.

YS

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At that dance this weekend I did not bang that girl I cut in to dance with. And then there was another opportunity later in the night at a party where I was talking to this girl and then got her to sit on my lap for a couple minutes, but I did not escalate enough or start kissing her fast enough before her friends who were her ride later told her they were going and she left after a couple of minutes where she was on my lap. I feel like I missed 2 bangs honestly thinking about it… Read more »

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The M3 model seems to be a mystery to some

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“Unfortunately I seem to have a mental block on how he should escalate”

First carry a condom, second, naturally go in for the make out escalate from there on the baseball game,2nd,3rd and home run. The nice part is at 17 logistics are closets, stairwells, church bathrooms any place where adults are ignoring the pains in the ass youth.

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Look I get the concept: attract, connect, seduce. The issue I am having which I have said before, is that my proximity to new prospects on a daily basis is suboptimal, so I usually end up with a snapchat, but I am trying to figure out how I can get my snapchat game better so I can facilitate future lays with.

And Wahoo that is what I did not capitalize soon enough on the other night.

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Let me clarify what I mean by proximity. On my daily routine I do not encounter many new prospects because I am usually at school studying or training mostly. But the real issue is my time allocation. It would be optimal to get girls that are DTF on deck so I can just call if I want to bang, that way I do not waste time. Like I said before though, a lot of this would go smoother if I had a more concrete idea how to apply the MM to snapchat game, and overall just implementation of the MM.

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Young shager, i was a 17yo HS wrestler once, we didn’t do snapchat way back so don’t even know what it is. My steady girl was a cheerleader and I would walk her home after practice, we would stop at the cafe when we had time for sodas and fries,she would let me over when she was babysitting after the little ones were asleep. The rest of my time was spent at the local college student lounge shooting pool on the reg tables for .01 a min.(where I pulled a few SNLs) and at the college weight room. Had a… Read more »

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@youngshagger For a girl who already knows you, like the girl who sat in your lap, you will use snap to establish an emotional connection and find a shared interest. By emotional connection it means you will make her feel a range of emotions, both by the snaps you send her and how you react to hers. Finding a shared interest gives you a reason to meet and isolate. Any plausible reason will do, such as you can help her with the school work shown in her last snap. Once you meet then you move to seduction. Don’t use snap… Read more »

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@wahoo “church bathrooms any place where adults are ignoring the pains in the ass youth” …church…reminds me…how do you ignore the pains in the ass adults? Or get them to leave you alone? lol, there was a broad at church who was going all out to get me to take some cake she brought…she didn’t try to push the cake on anybody else…Mrs. Gamer doesn’t sit with me there, so people might infer that we aren’t happy…from the beginning to the end of the service, the pushy broad keeps trying to get me to take some cake…obviously a strong IOI…not… Read more »

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“Lol, a big cup of Ratt to start the day!!!!!”

lol, I couldn’t give a Ratt’s ass

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“Any one else ever see the blankets bouncing at the park or beach?”

no, just chevy vans

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Wahoo

“Any one else ever see the blankets bouncing at the park or beach?”

Hehe

When 15 or so. Fishing at a little lake which fronted a four lane highway with stoplights. Dude throws a blanket over he and girl and pumps away. Cars stopped at the light witness the motion. Old men amd ladies honking their horns, disgusted.

It was 1 PM after all…

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Young Shagger, have you read mystery method? If you have then you understand that there are instinctive reasons inherent to your nature that will stop you from escalating the sexual nature of the encounter in a public setting. ie, the girl on your lap. this is a survival mechanism and not a bad thing so don’t kick yourself for passing the opportunity, as there are and were better ones all around you that you aren’t aware of. First off, in a school setting that is chaperoned you shouldn’t spin plates for physical sex, you either get a steady or jump… Read more »

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Palma Physical competence… thats the DHV It’s a very primal thing, her seeing you do something, almost anything really, with your hands, especially around the house. The opposite is her seeing you sitting on your ass watching TV. Goes back to “will their be Mastodon meat or not?”… For a while I got very complacent, was much cheaper and easier to just have someone fix things, do stuff etc. Never had any issues but after I started doing projects around the house again, saw a big uptick. Little stuff… change this or that. Nothing major even. Just activity, that didn’t… Read more »

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Much bigger impact than a big check…

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Palmasailor
I’m in shorts and shitty clothes and they’re giggling like schoolgirls, flicking their hair behind their ears and offering me “work” at their place

They are not like schoolgirls, they are all girls. It’s just how they are.
That 40-something or 50-something professional woman in the power suit? With the right sensory input she’ll giggle just as she did when she was 16 years old. Her inner teenager wants to come out and play; the hair twining is just the same as it was then, too.

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DHV around the house

+1

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I’ve been told to post here,so here is my story: I am a 29 year old eastern european living in the UK. I am an engineer and make some good money, lift 3-4 times a week, do occasianally some mma in the evenings, ok dressed, but 5ft6 and balding :(. And guess what I can’t get pussy to save my life :D. I am thinking of taking the black pill. Just don’t see a way out of this, i bang hookers eveery now and then :D. I think black pill guys have it right, some things are genetics and you… Read more »

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obviously I am not some alpha chad to offset that.

Frankie Edgar is 5’6″… Been 5’6″ a long time…

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“hear me on the street with my accent”

Have you ever watched “A Fish Called Wanda?” Many women are turned on by foreign accents.

Your problem isn’t what you think it is.

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“I feel like I missed 2 bangs honestly thinking about it now and now I am left with snapchats of missed bangs.” Youngshagger…. Uh no, they weren’t missed bangs. They were never-to-be bangs. Missed bangs are what PUA’s tell you to keep you on the hook to their go-to, soi-distant-never-fail algorithm hokum bullshit. It’s like kfg saying “I had to get divorced because this or that death and murder so I had to flee”. It’s back building a story for not getting the bigger picture IRT long before the failure-of-result happened. Know thyself and all this shit is superfluous. Most… Read more »

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“Physical competence… thats the DHV

It’s a very primal thing, her seeing you do something, almost anything really, with your hands.”

Yeah. Todd talks about this in The System under evolutionary answers as to what is “Value”:

https://imgur.com/a/PLOIqcB

Her watching you play the guitar, cooking, driving, playing sports…exceedingly well with absolute focus will turn her on. In a meta sort of way, gaming her well, “knowing the dance”, accomplishes the same.

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@palmasailor – ”Dunno, going out with a wing that good looking seems like needless hard mode. I did it by accident a few weeks back and he was a bloody liability because he was basically on fools mate.” lol – yeah, it’s not ideal. It’s an absolute eye-opener, though! If he was to write FR’s and stuff online, people would assume his game is amazing, but it’s really not! (starting to think that’s the case with the LR’s I read) Anyway, whatever. We still have a laugh. I’d rather game with him than go solo tbh Been in a bit… Read more »

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@Palmasailor
I don’t know, I just… I want a healthy balanced life, good job, social circle, some pussy, that’s it. Nothing too much really.

@Sentient
I am a Frankie fan, the guy is a beast, former champ, but he is an outlier. There is also Chad Mendes, same height top 5 in featherweight who got a 5ft10 blonde. But these guys are top 0.001% in their field that gives them sort of a preselection stuff, doesn’t it? What about avg 5ft6 guy who is not top in anything and not alpha?

@theasdgamer
I guess it’s not a problem most of the time.

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Aqualinespirit

that gives them sort of a preselection stuff, doesn’t it? What about avg 5ft6 guy who is not top in anything and not alpha?

That first link (pic did not display) is Frankie in high school. That girl with him then is the same girl he is with now. From when he was nobody, just a short guy with an attitude.

Outliers all start from the same place. They make a decision. Demonstrable Alpha is the culmination of choices.

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Aquaman 10 point action plan Get Tinder Plus, use Passport feature to change location, and set up many meetups before you go on holiday (or travel to the location). Also get on Facebook dating (I’m starting to get good results). Join a public speaking club and give speeches. Take Improv classes. Read Mystery Method and watch videos on pickup. Key: boring kills attraction. On free days (weekends etc.) do both a day activity and an evening activity that involves a social setting with plenty of women, and talk to multiple women at each. Check local event calendars. Take various one-time… Read more »

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And as yareally said about a weekend almost here:

It’s Halloween weekend. There is NO better weekend of the year to be out, solo or with a group. No one cares about age since everyone is in masks and shit

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I am trying to wrap my head around the core of what you are saying. Are you saying essentially not to overthink my female interaction action and to not be so formulaic? I feel like I am missing something but let me know.

YS

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@YoungShagger I can’t speak for EhIntellect. He commented to you after we had an hour and a half talk on the phone last night. And I mentioned to him, your situational questions. There is a lot to figure out in Process. Which is a thing you will figure out in how to proceed. How to become Valedictorian. How to be State Champ in wrestling. “Are you saying essentially not to overthink my female interaction action and to not be so formulaic? “ I think you got the question right/correctly… You are not binary nor is any given experience ATM fixed… Read more »

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@J – The ultimatemanproject product (book?) out yet?

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Hey!
Anyone here knows where I can download Gunwitch’s product “Way of Gun”?

Thanks in advance.

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Youngshagger, You’re understanding it well enough. Any given situation is a combination of the sensible known (physical, emotional, intellectual) AND that which can not be quantified (this part TRM refuses to address, fyi). Science is an observation of nature. It is not NATURE. RP is an observation of the intersexual dynamic. It is definitely not THE dynamic. Free advice is generally worth what it costs you. Therefore I’m not likely to tell you to do anything specific. I do want you to understand some concepts, though. PUA and MM and such speak to the known as they prefer to see… Read more »

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@passerby Don’t have it. Way of Gun is one of his earlier products. Without much technical game. More 101 basic shit that we all know today. So you’re not missing out. His 2013 product, Seduction MMA, is the one I would really recommend. If you haven’t checked it out already (GirlsChase interviewed Gun a couple months ago, if you wanna listen to a quick 30 minute overview first (https://www.girlschase.com/content/gunwitch-basics-seduction-mma-podcast) (SMMA Link here: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-123/#comment-277584) @scars Not yet. David Swift said on their Facebook group that the book is now complete. They had to make a couple of changes which caused the… Read more »

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“More 101 basic shit that we all know today. So you’re not missing out.” Gunwitch back in 2013 on his old method (this was before SMMA) : Remember this was like 2000, there was 2 pages of mystery method, double your dating and speed seduction. We didn’t exactly have what many would call captain obvious materials laying around to just be grabbed up and studied. It’s easy to Monday morning quarterback when you’ve learned all the principles I brought back from the field after years of practice, on the first day you entered the community. If you arrived in 1999… Read more »

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@aqualinespirit Having a lot of money won’t necessarily make you happy. Having desire sex with a hot girl won’t necessarily make you happy either. But having the skills to get all that can bring a lot of fulfilment to your life. Sort it out. So first things first. 5ft6 and balding Too much focus on that, you have other internal things to worry about. [Rollo’s spam filter doesn’t like the link to 5ft2 Cupid Shmupid watching his pickup videos with his girlfriend, you can look it up on youtube] I think black pill guys have it right, some things are… Read more »

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Youngshagger, “I feel like I am missing something but let me know.” You’re asking all the right questions as your conscience senses incongruity. Good on you. Try it this way: “Not overthinking” isn’t the lack of thought as purity isn’t the lack of dirt. They are two wholly different states of existence. Imagine this: You are to wrestle a chump so you slapdash any few moves and reverses and takedowns for fun and it really doesn’t matter much if your technique is stellar as he’s got nothing. This is what the manosphere generally describes as “not overthinking” They don’t know… Read more »

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@j ”but the hook stage is always iffy” Is gun talking about how he finds it difficult to ‘hook’ the set (which would then give him a chance to run the ‘3 keys’?) even now? (I think he says that in the interview too) I find hooking the hardest thing by far, but often, if I AM able to reach to hook point, i’m able to do well almost on autopilot (presumably hitting the 3 keys naturally by just trying to be fun and also flirting etc) But then again, that COULD be because my game ‘post hook’ is decent,… Read more »

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@ford “Is gun talking about how he finds it difficult to ‘hook’ the set (which would then give him a chance to run the ‘3 keys’?)” Yeah. The purpose of hooking (attraction) is to buy you time, so you can run the three keys on her (seduction). Which is what we want to do, if we want to give ourselves the highest % of getting what we want. “if I AM able to reach to hook point” “there’s also the nagging thought that the girls who hook simply like how I look (and so LET me hook) and thus they… Read more »

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@J – I prefer some of your examples to Gunwitches (more on that in a bit) Yes, I want to get better at hooking girls who AREN’T into how i look. Usually I ask girls in the morning why/when they liked me, and it’s basically always along the lines of ‘You just had the look I go for so when you said hi, I decided we’d probably hook up’ kind of thing. (ps – not to make it sound like i’m some sort of handsome stud. That’s not the case as ALL! But i’ve learnt there are some hot girls… Read more »

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All right guys. Been going through a lot. First breakup, learning a lot, mostly that I’m not over it when I mistakenly thought I was, even though it’s been a long time. Moving on: I’ve been listening to the Mystery Method audible book for a couple days now, got Palma’s book on the “Bean Farmer” type routines and been sifting through that. I’m trying to get into a headspace where I can start practicing Game. Feels very overwhelming. Anyway, this is not really a “field report” and this is gonna be rough. But this is where I’m at. So, market.… Read more »

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Ford

You never listen so…

“not to make it sound like i’m some sort of handsome stud. That’s not the case as ALL! But i’ve learnt there are some hot girls out there who have unique taste when it comes to looks! I’ve banged some girls that my mates literally can’t believe, and I know it was down to ‘looks’!)”

You realize that is an inconsistent statement right?

Softek

Welcome to conscious game. So now you have Approach Anxiety. Time to get to work. And lose the self deprecating humor. You are not in a Woody Allen movie.

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@ford

yes, that opener was a joke, like the one Rollo linked to:

https://twitter.com/rationalmale/status/1182361033253388288?s=21

Foreign opener:
Your cunt really is nice to strangers

(repeating your country is …)

Local:
Tits very loud in here, but I can read your tits

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@Sentient Noted. Also going over “When I Say No I Feel Guilty” audible book as recommended by SJF a long time ago. The self deprecating humor is a symptom of a lack of assertiveness/low self worth and I agree I should ditch it. It is not in line with how I want to be perceived or how I want to perceive myself. It comes out as a manifestation of anxiety and an urge to ‘correct’ the anxiety. The bodily sensations feel similar as to when someone asks me to do something and I automatically feel obligated to say “yes,” or… Read more »

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A couple of quick data points from me: -Was just in a trendy coffee shop. Full of English speaking tourists. Australian couple late 20s come in. Girl is blonde HB6 (well, I like blondes and big tits – some of you would call her a HB5.5). Boyfriend obviously beta. Girl opens me (something about the coffee I’m drinking). Asks if I’m a tourist too or I live her. I’m telling her about my training etc and she’s eating it up “Oh that’s so cool” etc (and then BF joined conversation and built me up too). Frustratingly, I can TELL I’m… Read more »

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@Palma No, I didn’t reinitiate with Facebook girl. She did. She was thinking about my comment all week, and she reinitiated. THEN I said we should meet up if we’re in the same town etc. She’s definitely keen, no doubt about it. The rest of your post I agree with. Honestly, it’s not practical for me to go all the way to see her – even when I’m back in the states, I don’t travel anywhere near her. I don’t really care to bang her either – I mean sure I would if it was offered up on a plate,… Read more »

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