Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

On OLD photos I’m not online at all… But I have eyes… and an artistic bent. Do yourselves a favor if you persist in this realm and get some PRO shots done. Your objective is to stand out and cast a net. Some background https://johnclarkphotography.blog/2016/07/25/the-actors-headshot-as-a-marketing-tool/ Headshots introduce you the actor to the casting director. It is your first impression, don’t let it be your last. Without a great headshot you limit your chances of being seen for top class film and TV auditions. Actors have to realise that, though acting is an art form, actors are a business and any… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

That’s very interesting.

j
j
4 years ago

Update to this list:

https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-133/#comment-280398

1) Dropped Kinobody’s 3x/week warrior workout program for this 4x/week one:

https://twitter.com/iEatOrganMeat/status/1131373672688758784

and reading Shanahan’s Deep Nutrition as per recommendation in the thread linked above.

2) Recently discovered Alexandria Fragrances (https://alexandriafragrances.com/) (high quality clones of $$$ fragrances for very affordable prices). and purchased one of their fragrances to replace my nearly empty 10ml bottle of Dior Sauvage. It’s good and no doubt it gets me compliments but its kinda too mainstream tbh.

Morpheus
4 years ago
Reply to  j

2) Recently discovered Alexandria Fragrances (https://alexandriafragrances.com/) (high quality clones of $$$ fragrances for very affordable prices). and purchased one of their fragrances to replace my nearly empty 10ml bottle of Dior Sauvage. It’s good and no doubt it gets me compliments but its kinda too mainstream tbh. FWIW, I use my Uber driving to do extensive testing of different fragrances and basically see which ones get the most compliments from women, especially 20s Versace Eros (young girls love this one, it gets the most intense compliments) JPG Ultra Male (one woman said she wanted to eat me) Rasasi Hawas (one… Read more »

Morpheus
4 years ago
Reply to  j

MORPHEUS

Hotel Game… – check back Monday or Tuesday…

Eagerly waiting 🙂

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Lol. I.have used jpg make since the 90’s and to this day if I’m wearing it women make comments.

j
j
4 years ago

Ya I’ve sampled all those except Rasasi Hawas. None really stood out to me tbh. For me, its important to actually love the scent of the fragrance in addition to getting massive compliments. Only two to date to accomplish that were Creed Aventus and Dior Sauvage. My recommendation would be (if you don’t wanna buy samples online) to go to one of the department stores (Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdale’s) that lets you sample the fragrances of the top niche designer brands (Creed, Tom Ford, Parfum de Marly, By Kilian etc.), then go to AF and buy the clone(s) of the fragrance(s)… Read more »

theasdgamer
4 years ago

“Recently discovered Alexandria Fragrances”

I dab a little semen behind my ears. XD

IAS
IAS
4 years ago

I don’t wear any perfume or cologne beyond whatever is in shampoo / soap I use.

Some scents give me headaches.

I have considered deodorant a few times but always wound up not buying any.

ford
ford
4 years ago

Any UK guys see that BBC program/exposé about the ‘seduction industry’ last night? lol – A fair few of the UK PUA’s have had their channels deleted. And one of them has been charged with ‘harassment’ lol (for ‘plowing’ after she said she wasn’t interested, from what I gather!). Also lots of uproar about the age thing. Program kept talking about how Eddie from street attraction, in his mid 30’s, banged a 17 year old or something. Surely the journalist knows that the age of consent is 16 here, and we dont have any ‘age gap’ laws. Why keep bring… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

We discussed the BBC special on our chat a couple days ago before it aired.

Here it is for anyone that didn’t see it:

https://youtu.be/w8gdvMZCuFI

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@ford – not seen it, but it’s just part of overall attacks on masculinity/FI stuff that Rollo talks about a lot, so someone decided to dust off some old prejudices and half-baked truths about PUAs for a new special. It’s unfortunate for this guy (and the risks of running a PUA business and filming girls etc keep going up) but anyone approaching girls with even a modicum of social skills and awareness will be fine. And guys who are good will be more than fine – a good PUA just comes across as a cool, sociable guy – it’s not… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

😑

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

😶

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

J thanks for posting the link. I’m gonna watch it. As for pua bootcamps, my position is well known. Without watching the video, I expect to see some strange and ” creepy ” shit. Culum this ain’t about masculinity. Pua isn’t ” teaching ” masculinity. It might be about the FI though. Ive watched guys approach/game women my entire life, and I’ve never seen anyone like what bootcamps and programs and videos portray. Woo I’m still not completely certain what’s going on. Maybe I’ll hit you up with a ( no lay ) fr that I fucked around and never… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Blax – we’ve been over variations of this before. The reason those PUA infields etc look weird and artificial (and many of them are absolutely), is because you’re watching the baby learn to walk. Watching those guys is like watching 12 month old baby taking his first steps and saying he’s shit at walking and doesn’t do it fluidly and naturally. Those of us who didn’t have the benefit of the masculine influences you had growing up had to learn it as adults. I’m past the awkward/weird stage – but I sure as hell remember what it was like to… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

PS – If you want to laugh at PUAs, try this video:

I’m the guy who usually defends RSD’s PUA/Game coaching on here (especially after YaReally and Scray left), but FFS – Julien is teaching business now? RSD is running business coaching courses?? WTF?

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

Keeping in mind that BBC special is the confirmation biased version (30 minutes hand picked for negative content from hours of footage), it sounded from the reporters accent that he was talking about pick-apart-ists, which is really what they do as in picking apart each interaction looking for flaws. This is silly as it dehumanizes the interactions and the pick-apart-ist can’t get a read on the vibe or chemistry happening between two people. They could literally be teaching boys to pickup chicks on the rag or something. I will have to blame tech for breaking society down to a level… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Palma – uncensorable (well, nothing is absolute, but very difficult to block or censor) blockchain based websites are on the way. Proofs of concept exist already. Ready for mainstream in 1-2 years max. Going to be interesting..

kfg
kfg
4 years ago

“RSD is running business coaching courses?? WTF?”

Remember I’ve mentioned before that the RSD guys go to seminars and bootcamps themselves, but that they have nothing to do with PUA? Well, they’re dropping the fourth wall. This is what they have always been about behind the PUA facade. They aren’t PUA community, they’re Internet marketing community. PUA was what they marketed, but as the market shifts, they will shift along with it.

wentworth
wentworth
4 years ago

What I find strange is that i’ve seen DWLF’s infields and they were no different to the other coaches/PUA’s. In other words, I can’t imagine him doing anything especially uncalibrated. Didn’t seem like he massively lacked social skills or anything. (certainly no more than many other pro PUA’S I’ve watched) I think his issue was going for teenage girls in a fairly small city where he could get a reputation easily!! He looked like all other coaches i’ve seen, tbh.. ‘Hi, I had to stop you for a second. bla bla. You caught me eye. I like your clothes. You… Read more »

ford
ford
4 years ago

haha – yeah, now that everyone knows about ‘game’, I wonder if the remaining UK coaches who have somehow avoided the cull thus far will be able to capitalize and make an absolute shed load of money! (James Tusk, Kezia Nobel to name a few)

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Time.

It still reveals all.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

will have to blame tech for breaking society down to a level that requires classes for basic human interaction. At least and I mean the very least these guys are getting out and learning to relate on a personal level. Wahoo this is my issue in total. I’ve asked for YEARS what percentage of guys that study ” pickup “( it’s not game….😁) are successful, and how is that success quantified. Strictly P in V? If you teach a guy to rush up to a stranger, or block their path, while reciting a basic bunch of shit, I cannot ever… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Morpheus Had a longer post got eaten. Anyhow “You mentioned traveling…I’ve actually thought about hitting hotel bars to maybe catch female business travelers who fit the “age appropriate” zone for me of 35-50 who are away from home. What has been your experience on that?” whoa…. what’s with that “age appropriate” thinking? Youngest hotel pull was a 22YO 8 stripper. Wasn’t even at the bar, but in the hall… So that mindest is a concern. Also I am getting a feeling you are looking for an “easy button”… Sure you will come across women who are alone at hotel bars… Read more »

Morpheus
4 years ago

whoa…. what’s with that “age appropriate” thinking? Youngest hotel pull was a 22YO 8 stripper. Wasn’t even at the bar, but in the hall… So that mindest is a concern. Also I am getting a feeling you are looking for an “easy button”… Sure you will come across women who are alone at hotel bars but you are still going to need your solid Game – Open, Spike attraction – Build comfort – Have the right logistics – and seduce… How are your cold approach chops? Thanks Sentient, So…I was with my ex-wife from the very beginning of 2006 when… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Morpheus Con’t. Tier 2 These are your nicer 3.5-4 star traditional “road warrior” corporate stay points places, usually in a CBD. The top offerings of Marriott, Hyatt, Westin, Hilton etc. (not their luxe brands or their lower priced suites, expresses etc.). Here is where you run into the 6-7 women, the girls just starting corporate careers and the mid level managers. Lot of 35-45 married women. Insurance, tech, accounting, markleting. Cube farm stuff. These places don’t have weddings and cool events, but they do have conferences and conventions. So you may see a lot of people with name tags on… Read more »

Morpheus
4 years ago

Thanks for the hotel specific info! Much appreciated

The Langham in River North is an example… Also a great neighborhood.

Well, just so happens this is my neck of the woods so to speak, if you are regularly in the area maybe we could meet up sometimes. My e-mail is morpheus7447@gmail.com

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Morpheus “I’m thinking…perhaps it will be good for me to challenge myself and actually open women who haven’t shown even the slightest interest first because maybe it will force me to develop skills I don’t have enough of.” Yes you will need to develop this. It’s not often that women,all alone in a hotel bar will be very overt with IOI’s. Them just being there is basically an approach invite. But… they will have buffers… Phones for sure. You need to work on “phone destroyer’ game. I like to use “how are the cat videos tonight?” and similar lines. Your… Read more »

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

Blax,”The prosecution rate will eventually outstrip the success rate.”

LMAO,stop it man just stop it. your hurting my grin worse than shrooms.

There needs to be a balance,not egalitarian or equal yet still human. This dehumanizing of others directly effects the self.

Morpheus
4 years ago

Going to try and answer and address numerous comments here: PlatonicHB is married to both “boring” and “asshole”. The marriage is sexless, they sleep in separate rooms, she encourages him to go out and meet women and have affairs, she could care less. She stays in the marriage for a number of financial and logistical reasons most of which relate to her kids and the school system. She plans on divorcing “asshole” as soon as the youngest hits a certain age. At the time she reached out to me, she had a guy she was regularly fucking, that ended, and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Morpheous

Don’t need to read the texts… 10/10 from this

right now she is not fucking anyone…I have no reason to think she is lying to me, we are extremely candid with each other. She is very sexual, likes sex, and we talk a lot about sex, especially most recently over last couple of months.

theasdgamer
4 years ago

“Didn’t seem like he massively lacked social skills or anything. (certainly no more than many other pro PUA’S I’ve watched)”

lol

theasdgamer
4 years ago

“FWIW, we’ve had hundreds and hundreds of hours of the most candid, person revealing conversations you can imagine over the last 2.5 years”

BFF!!!!! (frantically waving fingers over face)

theasdgamer
4 years ago

“What their losing their shit over is men have found a way of fooling them.

The male equivalent of make up and a boob job.

“What their losing their shit over is men have found a way of fooling them.

The male equivalent of make up and a boob job while still remaining insecure boys who won’t enforce their boundaries–unattractive after the spiked emotions simmer down.”

fify

Women won’t lose their shit over fucking men who are truly masculine.

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

Morpheus, ya what Palma said, try this keno, when she goes for the hug slide your hands down and pull her ass cheeks apart while you tongue fuck her ear. She has set herself up as your female advisor I don’t need one personally but had one once and after a few months I finally banged her and then she wanted it all the time. Turns out all her advice was solipsistic and she would listen till she heard what she wanted and pounce. When I told her it wasn’t serious she got all but hurt yet she still calls… Read more »

Morpheus
4 years ago

ASD,

Context bro LOL,

I added that part because someone up thread had suggested running the method on her that INCLUDES comfort building as well as part of the stages…my point in including that was because building comfort with her is unnecessary at this point and not going to be a determining factor in whether I bang her or not.

Morpheus
4 years ago

Scribs said up thread somewhere that he didn’t understand why men marry again, and it is precisely this situation, you’ll fall in, think “she’s different” and put a ring on it before you’ve completed your RP journey so you’ll make all the same mistakes you’ve made twice before. That’s the risk here Palma, Duly noted, and you are right…I need to be aware of my weaknesses…I’m prone to be a “rescuer” and believe this is the “right girl” and so I need to be aware of those tendencies. After my first wife was my “mistake”, my second wife was “the… Read more »

Morpheus
4 years ago

Palma,

Ha, maybe that is the kick in the ass I need lol. Her schedule slows up in a few weeks, so I am going to try and arrange our meetup ASAP…I’m going to use the next weeks to ramp up the sexual tension in our messaging…and then we’ll see how it plays out.

Morpheus
4 years ago

Palma,

Thanks!

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Morpheus Thanks Sentient, So…I was with my ex-wife from the very beginning of 2006 when I was 32 until 2017. After that, I met a woman on POF who also happened to be an old high school classmate and it literally fell right into my lap, I basically did zero work or effort on her, that lasted a year until this past April, that’s when I got active on the apps. You may be right on your assessment of the “easy button”…TBH I’ve never really worked that hard for what I got, it was more just show up, and even… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Palmasailor @Morpheus Your problem is gonna be that she’s going to want to move in with you and because you’ve come out of a shit situation and she’s gonna fuck you til you can’t walk there’s a big risk you’ll get blinded by the hole and fall into exactly the same shit you’ve just got yourself out of. Bang her but avoid “boyfriend like activities”. Scribs said up thread somewhere that he didn’t understand why men marry again, and it is precisely this situation, you’ll fall in, think “she’s different” and put a ring on it before you’ve completed your… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Gang, quick Field Report with some events in the last couple of weeks I’ve been meanign to write about – just to illustrate/think through a couple of points: First. In a coffee shop line – Cute HB7 mid 20s walking out past me (maybe 7.5 even – quite eyecatching) – about 6-10 feet away from me, eyes lock on and we have solid EC – it was under a second but definitely noticeable. Then (the reason I mention it), as she walks past me she jostles my arm. It wasn’t crowded, there was plenty of space on the other side,… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

PS – I should add that of course I know she was attracted to me and there was chemistry between us (both today and 18 years ago) – but I’m not sure what/how much to read into her remembering me etc. In fact I just remembered now as I type this – at one point during the conversation she even said something like “I couldn’t even concentrate on the questions being asked to the panel even though I had to answer them..I saw you and thought “I know him from somewhere” and then I just kept going back in my… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

One final PS – also remembered she is married and never mentioned her husband. It was all “I moved from City A to City B”, etc not “We”. No kids (I think) in late 30s. It only came up when she said something like “I…got married…but that’s not why I changed my name..I just did it because of visa hassles when moving abroad” and that’s it.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Morpheus Just be sure and pull that pan OFF the flame when you pour in the brandy. Culum All right… some good progress. Let’s hit the “next steps”… Cute HB7 mid 20s walking out past me (maybe 7.5 even – quite eyecatching) – about 6-10 feet away from me, eyes lock on and we have solid EC – it was under a second but definitely noticeable. Then (the reason I mention it), as she walks past me she jostles my arm. It wasn’t crowded, there was plenty of space on the other side, and it wasn’t a light touch –… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Gratuitous pre workout RATT video…

btw – since the death of the music vid, what are all those models doing these days…?

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Hehe I knew this guy would have a RATT video… Bad song, better video…

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Lol, a big cup of Ratt to start the day!!!!!

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum lol… do you even TRM, bro?…lol Gang, quick Field Report with some events in the last couple of weeks I’ve been meanign to write about – just to illustrate/think through a couple of points: First. In a coffee shop line – Cute HB7 mid 20s walking out past me (maybe 7.5 even – quite eyecatching) – about 6-10 feet away from me, eyes lock on and we have solid EC – it was under a second but definitely noticeable. Then (the reason I mention it), as she walks past me she jostles my arm. It wasn’t crowded, there was… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum

oh ya… i almost forgot…

how’s that FI treatin’ ya?…lol

(thanks for the reminder @Sentient…lol)

good luck!

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Congrats Palma!

You’ve managed to set yourself up as the perfect branch swing candidate.

A bad boy who is looking to settle down.

If you really want to avoid issues, move out. Now.

Else I suspect she will next do something that allows her to show herself naked to you. Walk out in a towel that slips a little etc. Or you “catch” her by “surprise” getting changed etc.

wentworth
wentworth
4 years ago

That scottish Daygamer has been in prison for 9 months whilst awaiting charges for ‘harassment’. (which sounds like approaching a hot 17 year old and trying to get her number from what I gather) Seems odd. I’d assume that’s longer than any actual sentence would be. But then read this this morning! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7557947/Shy-awkward-student-19-faces-JAIL-sex-assault-conviction.html Potential 10 years for this teen for touching a girls arm? Kind of baffled. Is it that bad in the UK? I often see Field Reports from UK guys on reddit/seddit, and it seems they get much harsher, faster rejections, even in bars, than other posters. Rarely… Read more »

SJF
SJF
4 years ago

@Wentworth

“…or are you dealing with an anxious and awkward young man, someone who struggles to make friends by his own admission? He is a particularly shy, anxious young man who spends most of his time studying with his parents.’ “

He needs a mentor:

https://freenortherner.com/omegas-guide/

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Palmasailor wow!… and yikes!!!…(<— how’s that for combining my two new words of the week?…lol) @HABD / sentient “lol… that girl is smoooooooth…lol” I feel that this is going from bad to worse, and I’m effectively up against a master chess player. remember… this is ALL her hindbrain… SHE is like a third-person observer too…lol… she just gets feelings she follows… but ya…lol Bear with me on this bit: Because some stuff is actually two handed I need the odd help out and she’s the only one here so we are doing the odd thing “together”. Yesterday was a shit… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

“Old friend pipes up “don’t know why you give a shit about her, you’ve had Loads of women and you haven’t put any SERIOUS effort into finding one for the last 2 years””

Good wingman

j
j
4 years ago

“he’s not helping your situ… or his… although he doesn’t know that”

Oh we’re not trying to help him bang her?

Gay

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Have you guys seen? RSD seems to have got out of the PUA business completely. All PUA related videos are gone off Youtube for all instructors (they still have old videos up but only the most generic ones, not the direct Game/pickup related stuff) they’ve rebranded to general self help. The website too – there are a few lingering references to game but basically, pickup, getting girls all gone. Tyler has been talking for ages about moving to the larger self-help market, but not sure why he’s burning his bridges by eliminating his steady cash flow from the PUA products… Read more »

wentworth
wentworth
4 years ago

Maybe game denialism had a role.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74174-post-2028253.html#pid2028253

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

culum

“general gender war can it?”

What RSD is – a shrewd marketing machine. They are just following the market.

j
j
4 years ago

“Game did create attraction. Also, most PUAs used to apply approach tactics to create attraction.” Comment from the now defunct site seductionmyth.com back in 2011: “You can not create attraction where there is no attraction. Attraction is nearly instantaneous, it’s in the subconscious mind, it’s a natural reaction to unconscious signals a woman or a man picks up on… a smell, a look, a face, a smile, a voice. It exists without awareness. But creating attraction and seducing a person to do something are not the same. A woman can be attracted to a man and turned off by what… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Sentient, HABD. Oof. Okay, point taken. Couple more things I remembered (it doesn’t change the analysis just more for the sake of me recording the factors): -In the panel discussion itself (before she came and introduced herself at the end), another panelist made a reference to a fairly obscure poem. Then I asked a question a while later and quoted the poem from memory to illustrate something in my question to the other panelist and out of the corner of my eye, I saw Conference Girl looking at me and nodding with a BIG grin on her face, like “yes!… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Palma – bang your friend’s ex-girlfriend if you want to enjoy yourself I guess, but how would that help your situation with current EEGF? It’ll just give you more social proof and bad boy street cred and increase her interest in you..

j
j
4 years ago

“RSD seems to have got out of the PUA business completely.”

Many are happy to see them leave:

https://imgur.com/a/bC6WOIi

It seems the more experience I get, the more I find myself agreeing with blax.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

Okay guys, so interesting Field Report from last night (when I started doing the Eye Contact thing). I’m 90% sure she was a hooker, but would be interested to see if you guys agree because there were a few things that were off – like her not asking for money or being more direct etc (even if she was a hooker, what I find fascinating is just how fast interesting things can happen to me when I’m alert and engaged with my surroundings and making eye contact etc instead of just drifting through life). I’m still in my conference city,… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Palma – I think it is more likely that it will just increase your social proof with EEGF. But then again, at this point you may as well try something new. The most obvious solution for you is just to NOT be around her or interact with her – but if that’s not possible due to the work you’re doing, then maybe you can try this. Clear it with your old friend first (not like “I’m going to bang your ex – is that okay?”, more like bring up the possibility as a joke or sometihing and see how he… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum

I suspect she was a hooker, probably a newish one and when you stopped leading and went boring she thought you were a cop. 👮 So she shut it down.

Had a similar experience in NOLA, nice looking 7. Big IOIs but it became clear early she was a hooker and when I said I’m not paying she broke off and didn’t want to chat further.

j
j
4 years ago

@Culum I don’t care if she was a hooker or not but a couple game notes for future non-hooker girls: “I was like “what are you up to?” and she was like “just walking around”. So I turned around (facing the way she was going) and said “okay, I’ll walk with you for a while..it’s a nice night” (I don’t think she understood everything I said but she got the gist of it) and I could see her looking a bit skeptical and hesitant and then complying and walking along (me guiding her a bit with hand on her back… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Palmasailor @HABD / Sentient How about this for an idea – what if I go and bang friends ex girlfriend… (she’s married by the way). He wouldn’t care about that… See this from her https://imgur.com/a/QB9CFe7 lol… sooo, your hindbrain seems to really be workin’ against you…lol not only would you get some pre-selection for banging a married girl… you set a precedent for banging girls that are ‘done with’ old friend… not helping your situ…lol ping your son, maybe you can talk him into meeting for dinner… ‘just the two of you…bc you have to catch up’… else, just get… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum Sentient, HABD. Oof. Okay, point taken. Couple more things I remembered (it doesn’t change the analysis just more for the sake of me recording the factors): -In the panel discussion itself (before she came and introduced herself at the end), another panelist made a reference to a fairly obscure poem. Then I asked a question a while later and quoted the poem from memory to illustrate something in my question to the other panelist and out of the corner of my eye, I saw Conference Girl looking at me and nodding with a BIG grin on her face, like… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 years ago

@Culum Okay guys, so interesting Field Report from last night (when I started doing the Eye Contact thing). I’m 90% sure she was a hooker, but would be interested to see if you guys agree because there were a few things that were off – like her not asking for money or being more direct etc (even if she was a hooker, what I find fascinating is just how fast interesting things can happen to me when I’m alert and engaged with my surroundings and making eye contact etc instead of just drifting through life). I’m still in my conference… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Culum The only question is as HABD says how let go of that “rock in the river” that I’ve been stuck on for a couple of years now. just gotta do it… This. Stop “planning” and just start acting. Your “hey” was a great first step, not your fault it was a Mongolian hooker… Just keep ACTING as you spot stuff. And then act again when you spot more stuff. and again etc. That’s the whole cycle, just a series of interactions based on stimulus… And yeah DON’T go giving guys a lot of direct eye contact, unless you want… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

Lmao.

Thanx Palma.

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

….. oh shit. I think I’m blushing. Lol.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Good stuff Palma… “The last few weeks have convinced me that women actually have no choice who they are attracted to so you should be able to pull most things at Will.” Nice. Now how far have you gotten into MM? Did you finish it? The lock in props are for her. Hard to tell from your narrative but with German it seems like you didn’t get to much compliance. Sure you venue hopped but it reads like you waited for her rather than other way around. Also didnt see any comfort/rapport. That said you gave up too easy on… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Palma “I ask how they know each other and she says bloke is her partner and other woman is her sister.” The thing to do here and the other barmaid set is to engage the group. You had some iois from one sister… That’s transferable to the other you know… Anyhow you engage the group, become the AMOG then you venue bounce them. You walk into your bar hop with two hot girls… You now have options. You have the partnered sister… You have the free sister… You have preselection from coming in with two hot girls for the german… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Palma

Ahhh. So the German was on the bar hop as well?

“I can’t believe what a chump he is ”

Lol. That guy was way into black cock… Girl not as much….

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

If they are on the bar top, and the group is bouncing. It’s not compliance. That’s what was missing. Didn’t quite grasp the sequence in your first telling.

So with respect to Palma, where was the A2 from this girl? Just some general IOI at the beginning. Not much A2 from your report. I suspect the kiss was not on. As you sensed.

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Palma

The Game is the Game because it works. It’s observable and repeatable.

We can all try and fit the Game into our own predilections and reference experiences. The trouble with that it is inconsistent.

When you go the other way, and fit your predilictions and experience into the Game, you make big leaps and get more consistent outcomes.

Just takes Doing The Work. Part of the work is breaking down what happens when things don’t come off. To me that is the most valuable.

wentworth
wentworth
4 years ago

Nice FR palmasailor. Age of consent is 16 in the UK? Would be inspiring if you get bang a few 16-20 year olds from cold approach! I was disappointed in Tylers attempts with the much younger girls in his final few videos before he rebranded/quit RSD. He was getting mainly rejected/ignored or getting the very occasional makeout (with the help of his wingwoman/girlfriend who seemed to kind of make it happen) and I couldn’t help but think it was his age, but would love to see some succeed as I’m certainly all about the much much younger girls. In terms… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Palma

“Amirite?”

Yup. That’s it.

ford
ford
4 years ago

Hopefully will have an FR of my own tomorrow. Had a mildly hot spell, but last 2 weeks have been brutal. (Last weekend in particular!). Going out with a big time slayer dude tonight to do some nightgame which may or may not be a good idea for my mental health!! 🙂 (having hot girls opening him and outright flirting with him kills my state!)

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago
theasdgamer
4 years ago

@Palma

“I’m absolutely convinced that younger are easier than “age appropriate””

Good to see you starting to question and try new things. But I have something for you to think about.

Who determines what is age appropriate? Did you think it through one day and come to a decision about what is “age appropriate” or does that idea just seem to be there in your mind? (I’m trying to help you find another FI program executing in your mind that most men have been propagandized with.)

Keep up the good work!

Blaximus
Blaximus
4 years ago

@wentworth “Age of consent is 16 in the UK? Would be inspiring if you get bang a few 16-20 year olds from cold approach! I was disappointed in Tylers attempts with the much younger girls in his final few videos before he rebranded/quit RSD. He was getting mainly rejected/ignored or getting the very occasional makeout (with the help of his wingwoman/girlfriend who seemed to kind of make it happen) and I couldn’t help but think it was his age, but would love to see some succeed as I’m certainly all about the much much younger girls. In terms of physical… Read more »

TT
TT
4 years ago

Profile of the day:

I will never date someone who:

“Has or wears no suits”.

j
j
4 years ago

Sharing my current iteration of my game to compliment my looksmaxxing guide (https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-133/#comment-280398) Shoutout to Gunwitch, Saul Tee, Gabriel Grey, Teevster, Bacchus and JP for the inspiration. INNER GAME If you do nothing, you get nothing. Trying will make you feel good because you took a risk. She could be the one for you and even if she’s not interested, you’ll be able to exit gracefully. It can’t happen if the excuses you cling to, for fear of stepping outside of your comfort zone, get in your way. Anything that you’re not enjoying, take a step back and realizing and… Read more »

TT
TT
4 years ago

@theasdgamer Well, who determines… on what level? Legal and cultural, it’s a co-operative effort of the èlite and the majority of people, not? Truth-wise… we know it’s usually below 18, and it can vary a lot depending on the person one is talking about. Some girls look more than ready to couple, and even to sink adult men’s lives for that matter, soon as they are 13. Others look as if they’d better remain virgins up to later than 20. This applies to men too. I had my first time at 24, and before then it would have been too… Read more »

j
j
4 years ago

“he liked to point out how Tyler looked and that he was still banging ” hotties “, but in the videos posted that’s not what I ever saw.”

Truth.

https://redpilltalk.com/viewtopic.php?p=2252739#p2252739

Took me a long time to see this but yeah.

Completely unrelated note…sharing this cause I thought it was funny.

https://imgur.com/a/FWww2hB

Aight peace!!!

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
4 years ago

@Sentient, HABD, @j LOL. I deserved that I think. I did think she was a hooker 90%, just wasn’t certain because of the not asking for money etc plus the area is not a redlight area etc. Besides, it was an interesting experience out of nowhere, which was fun to see how far I could take it. Noted on the turning around/lack of leading. @HABD – yes, my posture improvements have carried over into daily life, outside of training. I’m not perfect and slouch sometimes, but for the most part, standing/sitting straight is unconscious and internalized now – aka I’m… Read more »

ford
ford
4 years ago

uneventful FR i’m afraid, but i’ll do a writeup anyway. Went out with good looking mate. Opened a hot girl with amazing legs at the bar with a situational opener that I was gifted (some guy threw his pint glass at the barman because the barman wouldn’t serve this guys drunk girlfriend). Opened her about that. Laughed with her. Teased her. Done a little cold read and asked her who she was with. She was with a group of coke head guys who were playing pool a few meters away and she went back to them after getting served as… Read more »

YoungShagger
YoungShagger
4 years ago

Hey all. Thought I would give a quick update. It is quarter of the way into the school year, and I can happily report that I am on track to reclaim the number one spot in my class (valedictorian). My wrestling training is going really well, and I feel primed to make a dominant state run this year en route to my second state title. Virtually all of my time has been dedicated to training and studying, so I have kinda entered a bit of a monk mode. Last night was my school’s homecoming, and I grinded with a lot… Read more »

YoungShagger
YoungShagger
4 years ago

And yes before you guys flame me for entertaining ideas of fools mate, in my defense homecoming at my school is a bit more of a special occasion where girls have less inhibitions.

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
4 years ago

It was my latest squeeze’s birthday yesterday. I just got home after being away for a couple of weeks. She comes over on my request & I’m tired so just make us both a quick gourmet 2 minute noodle meal as she wanted to go out to a community film nite. When we get home I present her with a very basic shop bought cake with candles and some sexy lingerie. She giggled and cooed. As she was in the red zone, for ‘her birthday’ I got 2 enthusiastic balls popping blow jobs (CIM) that night and another first thing… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

Palma

” I think their hindbrain is programmed to breed with the FITTEST RIGHT NOW!”

Welcome to capital G Game…

Sentient
Sentient
4 years ago

YoungShagger my game is a bit off. YS – look you are a noob. You have NO game. and you haven’t been practicing. Having accomplishments is not = to Game. my calibration seems a bit off. I think I am coming on too strong at times. Yup. Confidence and entitlement not = to Game. What is annoying is that I am a physically attractive guy, so I feel like I should be able to get with whoever I want if my game was solid. yeah… Elliot Rodger kinda thought this too. It’s not how Attraction works. On one hand I… Read more »

redlight
redlight
4 years ago

@YoungShagger

“Although one of the girls I quite raunchily danced with had to be DTF and I am working on getting her over to my place soon to hookup”

No need to stay in monk mode. Look for the low hanging fruit like this so you don’t have to invest a lot of time. In particular look for:

1) Girls who chat you up while giving IOIs (for example pay attention to what they do with their hands)
2) Girls who show up to watch or cheer wrestling

Then isolate with something innocent, “study session”, “netflix”. Have fun!

YoungShagger
YoungShagger
4 years ago

Palma,

I read MM. I think I got to just follow it more to a T in the field.

YS

YoungShagger
YoungShagger
4 years ago

At that dance this weekend I did not bang that girl I cut in to dance with. And then there was another opportunity later in the night at a party where I was talking to this girl and then got her to sit on my lap for a couple minutes, but I did not escalate enough or start kissing her fast enough before her friends who were her ride later told her they were going and she left after a couple of minutes where she was on my lap. I feel like I missed 2 bangs honestly thinking about it… Read more »

redlight
redlight
4 years ago

The M3 model seems to be a mystery to some

wahoo Mcdaniels
4 years ago

“Unfortunately I seem to have a mental block on how he should escalate”

First carry a condom, second, naturally go in for the make out escalate from there on the baseball game,2nd,3rd and home run. The nice part is at 17 logistics are closets, stairwells, church bathrooms any place where adults are ignoring the pains in the ass youth.

YoungShagger
YoungShagger
4 years ago

Redlight

Look I get the concept: attract, connect, seduce. The issue I am having which I have said before, is that my proximity to new prospects on a daily basis is suboptimal, so I usually end up with a snapchat, but I am trying to figure out how I can get my snapchat game better so I can facilitate future lays with.

And Wahoo that is what I did not capitalize soon enough on the other night.

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