Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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IAS
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@Everyone: Happy holidays!

Sentient
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Sentient

culum Good to hear your health is going well. Best of luck to you. On this literally keeps giving me a DDB look and smiling every time I go in and today was engaging me in conversation and smiling. ummm… Go back there… spike [naughty or nice?] and ask for her number. Just do it for the reference experience. she is there you are there… get unstuck… On the sex thing, don’t let this become a buffer… Fuck her mind… that is the payoff… especially in SNL context. They are so worked up from the seduction you don’t need to… Read more »

having a bad day
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having a bad day

@Culum Sentient culum Good to hear your health is going well. Best of luck to you. On this “literally keeps giving me a DDB look and smiling every time I go in and today was engaging me in conversation and smiling.” ummm… Go back there… spike [naughty or nice?] and ask for her number. Just do it for the reference experience. she is there you are there… get unstuck… On the sex thing, don’t let this become a buffer… Fuck her mind… that is the payoff… especially in SNL context. They are so worked up from the seduction you don’t… Read more »

TheMarquis
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TheMarquis

Hello Sentient and Having A Bad Day and others End of year update and question We have moved back on a trial basis to the city where the children were born and generally everyone is much happier which makes the overall environment so much better. Wife keeps thanking me for making the move happen and says she knows I am under a lot of pressure to make it work financially after the move etc. More sex in December than rest of 2018 combined (although it is more like 7 months together since either wife or I were travelling on work… Read more »

IAS
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IAS

@TheMarquis: this is a good exercise for me so I’ll dive in. First impression: you care too much (hence the lengthy, detailed description). Go more into your own MPoO. “Also, she is much more frequent in thanking me for making the move happen and keeps saying I’m the only man she’s ever trusted and I am the only man who makes her feel safe and no other man has ever made her feel safe. I think this is also good but also partly kind of an instinctive play to make me feel guilty just in case I was cheating.” Shitty… Read more »

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

Thanks Sentient and HABD. Was back in the new coffee shop today. Usual DDB eyes barista girl wasn’t there but the other one (slightly cuter) recognized me and served me with locked on lingering eye contact – just long enough for me to know it was not accidental. As for the rest, I feel better and not just physically. I appreciate I can’t turn this into an excuse not to take action, but it actually feels really good to be in the Big City and “live my life” and not have that constant pressure of “Why am I not going… Read more »

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Sperg Field Report

Lol, I totally missed a DTF signal from a girl last night. Last call as I was leaving, a late forties woman (smoker-yuk) whom I know saw me as she was returning from another bar. Came in close and pressed her tits against me as we chatted and held my lower back. Well, at least I set the tone for New Year’s Eve when I asked her if she’d be back then.

Lol at my autism.

Sentient
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Sentient

Marquis Happy New Year… “But there are still lots of frame battles especially because I engage with her logically and start arguing much more than I should – not necessarily supplicating but more arguing when I shouldn’t. Also occasionally Qualifying to her.” Stop doing this^^^… This is why you get frame battles, because sometimes she wins… It’s the random pellet so she keeps hitting the lever. You want capitulation. You are close… Keep up the dread. More A@A… Less logical discussion. Great work with the coworker with the crush… On the dinner situation… You don’t want to mollify her… You… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Oh amd on the parenting stuff… There Will be times you will have to put your foot down and stand your ground. “My way or the highway” style. She Will fight ferociously… Stand your ground.

And never agree to censor your speech or actions… Fuck that. Next time she wants to hang with those folks just tell her “nah” they are boring… Etc.

Sentient
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Sentient

Oh and remember Athol was Purple Pill… He pulled lots of punches so as not to piss off his large female base.

Sentient
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Sentient

Culum

“It’s a much better base from which to take action and connect and engage.”

Great!

So ughhh… How is the taking action and connecting and engaging going???

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Sentient to Marquis This is why you get frame battles, because sometimes she wins… Marquis, you are in the process of retraining your own behavior and hers. When you backslide and qualify to her, you not only set your own retraining backwards, you also as Sentient pointed out set her retraining back also. If you persist in these behaviours it will take longer to get her settled down. It may even aggravate her contentiousness, because sometimes she gets what her hindbrain wants and sometimes she gets what her rebellious forebrain wants, and it can make her very irrational. Extreme worst… Read more »

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@The Marquis I’m not pitching in on this as it’s covered except to elaborate slightly because sentient mentions the random pellet and you might not understand the enormity of it. You are intermittently reinforcing and by doing this you will likely cause an INCREASED prevelanve of the undesired behaviour. “Psychologist B.F. Skinner (1956) discovered that while behavior is often influenced by rewards or punishment, there is a specific way rewards are doled out that can cause that behavior to persist over long periods of time, causing that behavior to become less vulnerable to extinction. Consistent rewards for a certain behavior… Read more »

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@The Marquis Having said I wouldn’t pitch in I read this and have to “The main challenge is that my finances are really tight and cash flow is hard, especially after making the move with family. The wife knows money is tight but no idea just how bad it is and how many risks I’ve taken and the debt etc.” A year after the 2008 banking crisis in 2009 I got the wrong side of a perfect financial storm. It shouldn’t have been a storm as I’d been there many many times before. The usual MO was to meet the… Read more »

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

Sentient

Erm.

shuffles feet

I’m gonna do HABD’s 400 Challenge Round 2 this month (the revised version). I’m working (and working out) a lot so I can’t do it in a few days like I did the last time, but I’ll do it over the next few weeks and build from there.

Sentient
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Sentient

Culum

Look man don’t overcomplicate things… Round 2 400 Open Challenge is Just Blitz Week in disguise…

Just ACT in the moment… As you are living your life, going about being the Alpha stud you are… When you see that girl you want to talk to…

OPEN YOUR MOUTH!

That’s it. Your training will kick in from there.

Remember the frame of Bobby Judge – you are just “testing the truth of the situation”… No big deal, no risk. No takers? So what? Move on. A spark? Well then fan that flame.

Sentient
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Sentient

Culum

Once more

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Tg__kFrus

23:58

Sentient
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Sentient

Culum Why is it important to “test the truth”? reference experience. You need to build up reference experiences. Social circle FR, demonstrating reference experience… So NYE we go around to a bunch of house parties, cocktail things. Neighborhood stuff. went to one with the wife and this other couple is there. Met them a few times but briefly. They are 10 or more years younger and live on the fringe of our area so never really see them. Woman is attractive but starting to hit the wall, thickening in the middle. Guy is tall, good looking, like Kevin Costner and… Read more »

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having a bad day

@The Marquis looks like you are still fighting the good fight!… props on that!!! Hello Sentient and Having A Bad Day and others End of year update and question We have moved back on a trial basis to the city where the children were born and generally everyone is much happier which makes the overall environment so much better. Wife keeps thanking me for making the move happen and says she knows I am under a lot of pressure to make it work financially after the move etc. these are wins… More sex in December than rest of 2018 combined… Read more »

having a bad day
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having a bad day

@Culum

Thanks Sentient and HABD.

Was back in the new coffee shop today. Usual DDB eyes barista girl wasn’t there but the other one (slightly cuter) recognized me and served me with locked on lingering eye contact – just long enough for me to know it was not accidental.

and?…

where is THAT field report?…

good luck!

j
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j

@Sentient Great FR “He mentions he started his own business a few months back.. so we talk about that… she buts in that she is the “chief marketing officer” I ask her if she has a card with that fancy title on it, she say no. I say to him, well you need to fire her then, if she is CMO and you don’t have any cards. she gets a little chuffed at this. i ask him the name of the firm, she chimes in she wanted to name it something else. I say what… she rattles off a few… Read more »

Palmasailor
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Palmasailor

New Year’s Eve field report I went out solo on an arranged bar crawl. I know the organiser vaguely and a few of the usual faces but I’m not interested in socialising with them to be honest and I do better solo. I knew there would be targets out Met at the usual bar and it was a range of people, there were 4 women who were staying in my air bnb who I had recommended the event to but when I saw them I thought … err perhaps not.. but I chatted a bit to them The group moved… Read more »

Sentient
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J “A bit of qualifying from you here. ” Let me amplify. This wasn’t about me per se. Or seduction. It really was about laying down some life lessons for those kids. There is a place for the smirk or shrug, but you have to be aware of a) overgaming and b) the raw power of connecting on a deeper level. Like here after I called her out on her position by saying it was the fourth option she was like… Yeah. Damn. And lights going off that she was a total fuck up as a parent. If you have… Read more »

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@Sentient “It really was about laying down some life lessons for those kids”. yeah I get that. You demonstrated that early by talking about boundaries and consequences. What I’m talking about, is the shit test she threw at you: “Now she is all indignant “I new you where on of those guys” “the raw power of connecting on a deeper level”. We all know there are correct ways of responding to shit tests, whether it be outright dismissing it or by A@A, but another way (in the right context) is by having what I like to call, “a moment of… Read more »

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J

“what I like to call, “a moment of real” (even tho that “real moment” is calculated). Which is what I think you did here.”

Well… there is real, then there is the realistically faked.

It’s OK to have some “real real” J… That authenticity yo. Very powerful.

Sentient
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Speaking of AMOGing… funny old story from Tyler… Out-alpha’ing guys is a fast way to convey value. It’s like stereotypical male fantasy of wishing that they could slay the dragon or save a girl from harm. Why is that? It’s because they may have balls of steel, but they don’t know how to CONVEY it fast. This sort of thing helps you to do that. Also, it’s so important to have this stuff down in clubs, because there are always guys trying to lower your status to elevate theirs. So being savvy of the subcommunication that’s going on in between… Read more »

Palmasailor
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Palmasailor

Hey Rollo

I like the new look – very classical indeed and very up market.

Nice.

Palmasailor
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Palmasailor

Yup these things are designed by assholes that don’t actually use them so you get stupid shit like that.

It still looks very nice.

I’m struggling for the right words because whilst the old feel wasn’t exactly wrong, it wasn’t right either and this one is.

You might want to think about changing the book covers to sync in perhaps?

The look and feel needs to be stable across the brand.

IAS
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IAS

@Rollo: this one is sleek. Although for me the best change was the previous one that made navigating to the last comment so much easier!
Thanks for the great content and happy 2019.
I have some hope I might thank you in person in Poland.

Sentient
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Sentient

Rollo – well on too many pages there is no link to recent posts… And on a mobile, the layout isn’t good. Maybe try adding Recent Posts to the menu.

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

Sentient, HABD – I’m on the job.

Math Dr
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Math Dr

For online dating game, peak desirability is 18 for women, 50 for men.

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Oh Jesus.

Dating apps again.

Frame. Stay the fuck out of women’s frames.

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

Math DR
For online dating game…

We can be sure that no writers at the NY Times would ever be gynocentric or peddle blue pills. Nope .Never happen.

StudentoftheGame
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StudentoftheGame

Hey guys! Need your input on this. I have in the past committed this mistake several times and hence now want to analyze this and weed it out of my Game once and for all. I met a girl, first date went great lasted 9 hours was very unplanned and spontaneous since we were both on holiday and free. First date consisted of walking around a park, then getting a few drinks, climbing up a hill in our town at night while drinking, a lot of kissing on top of the hill and then grabbing some food. As the date… Read more »

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Trying to have sex with a woman in her frame can be frustrating.

Do you have any plates now? A saucer?

Do you see where she worked you! Converted you?

Under her terms.

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

@Blaximus

I don’t understand what you mean? I know she now redefined the context. But I used to not allow that before and what happened was the girls never replied or met me again. Whereas here I like the girl and I don’t mind taking it a little slow with her as I have other dates with other women lined up.

I am sure if I had pushed this, she would have not met me again. But I want to continue this with her.

Can you tell me what you would suggest I do?

theasdgamer
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@student

Do you have any plates now? A saucer?

Blax is asking if you have any Preselection working for you. Hint: this is probably the #1 thing in game.

Do you see where she worked you! Converted you?

Blax is saying that you need to look at your own field report and figure out where you lost frame.

</Blaxtranslater off>

Blaximus
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Student So you’re giving off strong boyfriend vibes, and she’s assuming control with your blessings as you chase. Now the plate potential has eroded greatly, and the potential drama quotient has risen substantially. It’s decision time. You say You like her? Well, okay then, but you must get out of her frame and retake control and guide this where you want it to go, under your rules, in your timetable. But I’d say this much: don’t straddle the fence. Either you want girlfriend, or you want plates. They aren’t the same thing. She’s put the brakes on and is trying… Read more »

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@studentofgame – it’s “Anti Slut Defence” or “ASD”, not “Buyer’s Remorse”, but otherwise your friend’s analysis is basically correct (you get Buyer’s Remorse when she sleeps with you quickly and then later regrets it for some reason – you get ASD when you get her so turned and go so far the first time you see her without sealing the deal that she knows the next time she sees you it will be for sex – there’s no doubt or ambiguity, so then she feels like a slut for meeting a guy “just for sex” (not logical I know but… Read more »

Studentofthegame
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@ Theasdgamer Blaximus and Culum Struan First of all thanks a ton for your comments and advice. Yes, I do understand that I have lost the frame to her as of now. She basically was overwhelmed with the pace at which we proceeded and as Culum pointed out she expected that I would next invite her over to my house. But now that I took a step back and said coffee in a public space she wants to meet again and said she wanted to show me a favorite cafe of hers. What I am confident about is her following… Read more »

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@studentofthegame Good work on your improvement and better results. Your plan for this girl is fine – meet her and slowly escalate on the sexual tension. Just remember to make sure the coffee date venue is convenient for your place (ideally walking distance) so that you can easily move there (or if you’re going to more than one place, the last place is convenient for your place). Also make sure you “seed the pull” – give her some plausible reason for going to your place so that she can at least pretend to herself you’re not going there for sex.… Read more »

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@Culum Thanks a lot for the response. The one impediment I might face is that since I have already caused a lot of ASD she might be really weary when she meets me next. She has said she is going to show me one of her favorite cafes which I am pretty sure is not on the side of town I live in as she has mentioned it before. I am reluctant to now change the date location as I am in a precarious position with her ASD being high and everything. But I am confident I can change her… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Student

Going forward, it’s generally a good idea to reject any meet at a venue she chose. You want the territory working for you, not her.

j
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@Student “She has said she is going to show me one of her favorite cafes which I am pretty sure is not on the side of town I live in as she has mentioned it before. I am reluctant to now change the date location as I am in a precarious position with her ASD being high and everything” Cancel the date. Tell her you lost your phone the day, after you were guys were suppose to meet up (meaning complete radio silence from you, the day ya’ll were suppose to meet), then tell her you feel bad and you’ll… Read more »

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

Thanks a ton for the hard hitting advice here guys. I realized what I did wrong and I think I am just investing too much into this girl. Going to forget about her for now and concentrate on other girls I am going to be meeting.

I feel now reflecting back on my behavior, I haven’t killed the Beta in me fully. It rears its ugly head whenever I get close to sex with a girl but don’t actually get it, I loose frame, act needy and start chasing the girl.

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@studentofthegame – good self-analysis and understanding of yourself. You should certainly invest less in each girl and have more of an abundance mentality. That said, there’s no need to forget about this girl. Even if you don’t sleep with her, it’s good to try turning the situation around for practice – even if it doesn’t work you will learn something. Why not try @j’s tactic? It’s high risk/high reward, but if it works you will be in a good position. Or you could go on the planned date with her and try to lay her in a car or the… Read more »

palmasailor
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palmasailor

Thought I’d give online dating a go in the new year and it’s being quite successful for some reason..

Who says one word introductions don’t work – they do when they think they’re being invited to Michelin starred restaurants.

😂

https://imgur.com/a/uzgZHqU

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

Palma – are you sticking to your age group? Tinder/Bumble or going further afield with the sites?

palmasailor
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palmasailor

@Culum Inner circle and plenty of fish Refuse to do bumble and I’m probably 1/2 stone too heavy for the shirtless abs shot I’d need for tinder so not bothering yet Been on it 4 days – and id have had 4 lays if I liked them in the flesh. Got 1 lay who could be a plate. Got some much younger Russians hitting me up in IC but apart from that they’re early 40’s Being mobbed by older wildebeests.. Real life is very much easier / quality is much higher – I’ll probably delete them all by the weekend.… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Culum

Resist!

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

Sentient – Hahaha, you read my mind! I do shit online anyway – I don’t have the looks for it (except for sugar sites where I do well because I learned to game the system). Either that or the marriage+kids provider seekers close to my age..

palmasailor
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palmasailor

@Culum

Don’t do it – I’ve just deleted them

IAS
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IAS

@Culum, Palma and Sentient: I loved and LOLed at Sentient’s short and to the point “Resist!”

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

@Culum Struan Yes, exactly. I wanted to just see if I can turn it around just for the experience. But yesterday when I texted her about the coffee date, she wasn’t really enthused about it and said she did not have time this week and that next week would be better etc. Now, I think I have lost too much Frame and me hitting her up again next week would just ooze neediness. So I have decided to only try to set up a date if she gets in touch with me by herself. And does someone have YaReally’s work… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient
Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@studentofgame You can read it here on the Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20170818153612/http://www.yareallyarchive.com:80/ It’s slow, but it’s the complete, up to date Archive. It’s basically a compilation of posts and comments by YaReally over 5 years on the Heartiste blog and here on TRM, so you may see some of the same names you see here now discussing things with him. There is also a PDF version floating around (which may not be as complete, but is a lot easier and faster to read). I suggest you go to Reddit and ask on the “yareally” sub – someone will have it (I… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient
Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

Wow! Thanks guys. I just read a FR Yareally breaks down. It is so similar to my situation. I understand so much more just by that one read. I see what happened with this girl in a whole different light now. I wasn’t congruent. When I met her and the two days we ended up making out and fooling around, I was the cool guy living life in the moment and having fun.During the second day, when we were making out and having fun in the thermal bath and she was telling me how she is going to be so… Read more »

j
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j

@Student

“when I texted her about the coffee date, she wasn’t really enthused about it”

Can you screenshot the texts and then upload them on imgur so we can see the convo?

Sentient
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Sentient

student

Would love to have your thoughts. I might have lost this girl, but I don’t want to make this mistake again.

OK. don’t do that again…

Beyond that, are you a student of game? Have you read Mystery Method? Do you understand the A-C-S model?

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

@ J I deleted the thread as I did not want it to to be on top of my inbox as I would be tempted to text her or send her a joke or something again and I did not want to end up doing that. My neediness sometimes gets the better of me when I am free and sitting by myself. But here is what she said I will try and write it down as exactly as I remember: Me: “Hey! I get done with my exam tomorrow. Lets grab coffee! How about Friday? I guess you get off… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Student

Sounds about right… “Natural” game stuff works I til it doesn’t. Mystery Method – which is what Yareally and RSD are steeped in – fills in the gaps and allows for consistency.

That text was painfully happy puppy wagging tail…

When you say you are in Central Europe and you are an Asian what do you mean? Oriental?

j
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j

@Student “Me: “Hey! I get done with my exam tomorrow. Lets grab coffee! How about Friday? I guess you get off work early on Friday right?”” Your mistake was sending the offer right off the bat. Which signals neediness. Rookie mistake we’ve all done it. What you want to do instead, is build up to it by first, establishing basic rapport and spiking her emotions. Then at a high point, make the offer. Like in sales. You don’t go right into the sales pitch right away, cause your target, is most likely gonna say no even if they kind of… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Student

You might want to watch this before reading.

palmasailor
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palmasailor

@Culum Here you go this is what you get online dating https://imgur.com/a/rmfsJIJ She used to live in shoreditch (think somewhere just off Wall Street and that would be about right) which is one of the most happening place in London and she used to be a pole dancer there. Don’t suppose she met many men.. lol..(Ask me how I know) Now she’s moved to a rural village and is getting pissed that men on a “high end” dating app aren’t playing ball. She’s written down what’s going through all of their heads at that age. She’s not enjoying it is… Read more »

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

@Sentient

I am India. Thanks for the link. I am going to watch the video now.

@j

Ahh. I make that mistake all the time, I think I picked it up when I was learning that it is better not to chit chat too much via text or something. But it is beautifully explained here, a little spike is needed before I ask them out. I just wrote that down so that I never make that mistake again.

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@Palma – lol. I’ve seen a lot online profiles like that. I used to hang out on swingers websites (and clubs) years ago and those are even worse because the supply/demand curve is even more skewed – all the aggressive, unpleasant (and proud of it) fat 50 year olds specifying “only men with six packs and 10 inch cocks” or whatever. It’s kind of like the loser guy who goes on a sugar daddy site and says “I have a lot of money to spoil the right girl with..but I will only consider under 22 year old Playboy model equivalents”… Read more »

palmasailor
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@Culum There’s nothing to crack with online it’s simple: The women don’t have a real life date because they are in denial about their true market value. If they weren’t they would have a date. They’re in asset bubble territory. There is such colossal thirst (demand) that the asking price is waaaaaayyyy above cold blood value. This does not adjust down with age, in fact they double down on their requirements which counterintuitively means they only attract successively more gimpish Poindexters as their demands become more ludicrous. They make rules for betas which is by the way because they really… Read more »

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

Hahaha at “asset bubble territory”

I did the swinger club scene both as a single guy and with various FWBs. It was hilarious:

Going as a single man = pariah
Going with various average 30+ HB6s = member of the club
Going with my 19 year old redhead FWB (still the best sexual chemistry I’ve had anyone ever, although she didn’t like the swinger scene) = rock star

Sentient
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Sentient

Palma

That online screed… lol…

You:Hey!!!! It’s nice to meet someone who is not shallow!
Her: [whatever]
You: So you are very pretty, but I need someone who is smart too… Tell me about that?
Her:[whatever]
You: Are you good at math?
Her:[whatever]
You: Do you know how many feet are in a mile?
Her:[Siri – how many feet are in a mile?]
You:Do you know the average cock is 6 inches???
Her:[whatever]
You: So how many miles of cock would you say you’ve run through, or run through you I mean?
Her:[Siri – what is 6 inches times 60, times 20???]

palmasailor
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@Culum

Yer in the right circumstances you are the Rock star

I don’t look at the men but if the other women are right I pull their hands through the cage to feel up the woman I’m with

It’s invitation only and everyone knows that

palmasailor
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@sentient

Only 60 😬

Most of them have more cats than that

Ohhhh 60×20!

TheMarquis
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TheMarquis

Dear Everyone who replied – thank you for the comments. I’ve been pondering them for a few days. I think the main takeaway is that I need to be a lot more consistent. The good stuff is good, the bad stuff I’m doing is bad, and most of the time I seem to be able to figure out which is which for myself. So I need to focus more on just doing the good stuff. But there has actually been quite a lot of improvement since I started posting here a couple of years ago, first in patches, and now… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Marquis You got this… Glad to hear of all the progress and you are getting it… Had to laugh at this She sat me down a few days ago and said she’d realised that I was actually getting more selfish and self-centred as I got older, and I used to be a lot more “emotionally sensitive” when we first met over a decade ago and I’m not the man I was then. I wrote this in 2015… 5. and the coup de grace, when she wants to have a BIG TALK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP and she says “I don’t like… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Playas / CULUM

“no man has ever made me come like that before”.

Listen up… Do you think Marquis learned some awesome new “techniques” in the last few months? That he hadn’t done in the last 10 years…???

FUCK HER MIND, and her body will follow. Biggest sex organ between her ears. Spike ^-^-^ the emotions… Be unpredictable… and be WANTED by other women. [DREAD is an aphrodisiac…]

All better than another inch on your cocka…

theasdgamer
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What’s her game? I’d like to get some opinions on a Black Swan event. I was walking out of Panera’s in the entryway. There was a woman there and she was avoiding eye contact, so I looked past her as if she was invisible. She opens me as I open the door. I look back at her and she is smiling a big, friendly smile as she lays out her spiel (German for “play” or “game”) in a high energy way. The woman is early-30s and quite lovely and olive complected as if Greek or Italian. The woman has locked… Read more »

Blaximus
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Blaximus

” Biggest sex organ between her ears “

TRUTH.

” All better than another inch on your cocka…”

Ummm…well if you can manage it, go for it.

theasdgamer
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another inch?

…reminds me of White Goodman meeting Kate in his office…inflating his pants…

Sentient
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Sentient

Blax

http://blog.heartland.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Austin-Powers-Penis-Pump.jpg

Not my bag, baby… If others want to do it and report back? Field is king!

SJF
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@TheMarquis I’ve been through a lot of the waters you are going through. “-She sat me down a few days ago and said she’d realised that I was actually getting more selfish and self-centred as I got older, and I used to be a lot more “emotionally sensitive” when we first met over a decade ago and I’m not the man I was then. This is actually true I suppose, as I am now prioritising myself in a way I didn’t then. I just basically said something like “I am who I am”. A few days before that, I said… Read more »

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

@Sentient @j @blaximus @culum struan Thanks for all the advice on here. I just watched the Mystery Method video that you sent me. It had amazing insight and I am now rereading the Mystery Method thoroughly. As I mentioned before as I got into Game just a couple of years ago, the routine based Old school pickup was always made fun of by the “Natural” and “Direct” Game guys and I fell into that way of thinking. Without having any solid structure I have been practising Game and it has got me sporadic results, a few lays here and there.… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Student Look at this chart. Is it daygame or night game? Do not fall into the trap of thinking that “routines” are the game, when the STRUCTURE is the game… Routines are just Demonstrations of High Value that have been used before. Aspie nerds learning PUA fixate on the word routine and miss the lesson… “Naturals” use “routines” all the time… whenever you have a story or joke or something you have told before, that is effectivly a routine… A “Natural” telling a girl about his crazy ex GF is just telling a girl story about his crazy ex GF.… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Student Student:… sits in park at lunch next to girl… plane passes overhead… points to plane and asks girl “man, some days it would be nice to just be on one of those huh?” … Girl responds: [doesn’t matter what] Student: wonder where it is going? If you could be on that plane where would you go? Girl responds: [doesn’t matter what] Student: Man I would go to [XYZ Cool place] again. I was there last summer for two weeks with my ex girlfriend… well she is my ex now because she got really jealous one night at the end… Read more »

having a bad day
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having a bad day

“POOF”

looks like i lost a comment…

having a bad day
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having a bad day

since that test went through… here’s the short version of the one that ‘poofed’…

Sentient to TheMarquis

+1…

Sentient to Studentofthegame

+1…

SJF to TheMarquis

+1…

that was easy peasy…lol

good luck!

SJF
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“Learn solid game – Attraction – Comfort – Seduction… IOI’s IOD’s, DHV’s, Compliance. Instigate Isolate Escalate… etc etc etc…”

What?

Can’t we just skip a lot of steps in our Hero’s Journey?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

@Sentient You are right, it is harder for a brown guy like me, to run Game in CE but at the same time, there are certain section of the girls here, who are fascinated with eastern culture and tradition and stuff like yoga or are bored with dating CU guys want to taste something different. So I don’t want to use my situation as an excuse for anything. But I think a lot of my odds can be improved if I locate areas which women who are looking to meet foreigners frequent. I am working on that. And yes, you… Read more »

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

This is a FR of an indirect daygame approach I did a few days ago. I am standing at a street corner trying to decide which street would be more target rich for daygame at this time of the day. I see a woman with a nice figure walk by, she seemed clearly older than me, I don’t catch much of her face, but I see she has a fit body and nice legs. I walk behind her and she stops at a pelican crossing. I walk up and stand beside her and look at her and open with: Me:… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Student

I realize now after watching the Mystery Method video and from the book that I am now rereading. That I did not do much of attraction and it fell very quickly into rapport.

Good. yeah you just freindzoned yourself, maybe signed up for BJJ lessons… lol. and your idea of DHV story is not Mystery’s idea.

See how the little blurb I wrote upthread about the park is different and gives you hooks into making it man to woman?

Sentient
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Sentient

But you seem to have good social, verbal skills, so you should make progress if you try.

Sentient
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Sentient

Student The key to these interactions is making sure you are sexualizing. You can sexualize with demeanor, eye contact, posture, closure of space – all non verbal and non physical. Of course you can also add verbal and physical as appropriate. “Commonality” is a trap…. guys love it though. “Oh you went to Ohio State too! Wow!” or whatever. They think it is great because they can keep talking about stuff they have in common. Chodes who are attracted to pickup love it because they have an attractive girl talking to them. None of this is pick up. better to… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Student

Take a look at this old classic clip of James Marshall

[this is in NYC btw not Budapest]

This is a good example of sexualizing with tone, posture, eye contact, close space. AND by 3:33 he introduces sex…

[It’s not a great example of game… he misses a bunch of chances to move it forward by just going for the number… by not leading this someplace…]

Puss In Boots
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Puss In Boots

Test, I am just test to see how this chat works. Why can I not comment of other peoples comments?

Puss In Boots
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Puss In Boots

Sentient, I have the same problem with making sexual tenstion. Even if I tease and Push Pull, tell stroys and kino, I can not make end feel the sexual vibe and energi, any advice for me?

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@Sentient – noted! I never had any complaints about the sex either..just in my head mostly. @studentofthegame – everything Sentient says is spot on, but I just wanted to add a couple of things Do not get sucked into the “I am Indian so it is harder for me” mentality. It’s fundamentally not true, and even if it were true (it’s not), having the thought in your head and worrying about it will damage your results far more than your ethnicity. There was a post – I think somewhere on West Indian Archie’s blog – where he pointed out that… Read more »

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@Puss In Boots There are no nested comments here. You cannot reply to a specific comment inline to that comment. Any reply you post will go to the end of the full list of comments. As to your question, you really need to post a detailed FR of a few of your conversations with women (as much of the conversation as you can remember, as much detail as possible) for us to help. However, I’m willing to bet your voice/tonality and your eye contact and distance from the girl (especially eye contact/laser eyes) are not on point. Those are the… Read more »

Sentient
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Sentient

Puss in Boots

Re problems with sexual tension.

Let’s begin at the beginning. Have you had sex?

Studentofthegame
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Studentofthegame

@ Sentient Yes, I think I have good conversation skills. At least after I found pickup and Game, I developed my conversation skills. But I was never a complete social retard. I think the problem with me is that I am over sensitive to social cues, I care too much about what people think of me and this has reduced in the year and a half since I started learning about pickup but I think I am still too sensitive to what others think of me. Since, I primarily did online dating till I moved to Europe, what I got… Read more »

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