Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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anon
anon
8 years ago

ascended acceded that power…

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“It was her idea to come to your home . . . ”

“Taking advantage” of a woman is the FI pushing on you with a giant, industrial strength press. Exactly what are to “taking advantage” of?

Her desire.

Unless you clubbed her over the head and dragged her off or something, she did it, whatever “it” is, because it was what she wanted to do.

“And she could totally screw you over.”

https://infogalactic.com/info/Kitten_with_a_Whip

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

kfg Marquis Anon IS the FI. I wish she would just accept that… And to be clear, my comments about how tour wife might react have nothing to do at all with Anon’s Oxygen Network movie of the week fantasy BS… What I am getting at is akin to Joey’s frame in I Love You to Death… The scene where his fling wants to cook dinner for him and he is shocked… Because she’s not his wife… It’s out of the question. Catchers Good stuff from J and Culum for you. Go back over the Thin Man’s 3 date model…… Read more »

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“Anon IS the FI.”

Yes.

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
8 years ago

@j @Culum Struan Appreciate the insight. It’s like chicken soup for my soul. After posting my last LR I had a conversation with a good friend of mine about dating and relationships and he’s still firmly AFC but interested in improving his ability and attracting more girls. I’ve given him my copy of TRM but can tell he hasn’t read it yet by some of the things he says or ways he thinks through situations. Case in point; he firmly believes that any girl that sleeps with a guy “early” is a slut. He told me that he prefers to… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Thanks kfg – Gratuitous Ann Margret clip… 23 YO here…

http://pmd.cdn.turner.com/tcm/big/tcmweb/FILMCLIPS/2010/03/kittenwithawhip_everydirtylittlemind_FC_133a_24f_iphone.mp4

Guess what YSG’s… the whole False Rape Accusation thing [i.e. the boogeyman] has been around a loooong time… It did not originate with <25YO 8+ girls in Teh Current Year

Actually there is a story preceding this one… some cat named Joseph… You might have heard of his coat…?

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Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrH0WhcI2TA

The 60’s were a golden age for women for sure…

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

OT: 1965 – Once a Thief

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HgxLVgZjL8

Alain Delon and 24YO Ann Margret… 1965 San Francsico…? Buena Vista was crying out for a time machine on the other thread… Sign me UP!

I think I will watch this today… San Francisco is about the last American city that comes close to what it was in 1965, believe it or not… that dark underbelly, that bit of Americana… But that is all going away now too… Fuck Google and Apple et al…

Set date to 1965 Sherman!

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Catchers…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpQDzq8pOow

Day 2…

anon
anon
8 years ago

“Anon IS the FI. I wish she would just accept that… And to be clear, my comments about how your wife might react have nothing to do at all with Anon’s Oxygen Network movie of the week fantasy BS…” Facts remain facts regardless of where they come from. I make no assumptions, just go by the statements made and put them into a cost to gains equation (which is pretty easy, since as you mention I’m the FI…what would I do in her position, holding that deck of cards…what would my motivations be?). Facts: “Crashing at his house” was her… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago
Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2iHngxn1dg

Last gratuitous clip… 18YO Diane Lane [pre Bon Jovi]… and an alert Johnny Carson…

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

@anon: “Facts remain facts regardless of where they come from.”

My style may have caused a modicum of confusion. I addressed a comment to the words you wrote, but did not address it to you. It doesn’t make much sense addressed to you because . . . you are the FI.

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
8 years ago

@Sentient Yes to all of your questions. With regard to the “sex within minutes of meeting” I completely agree this is possible but will require improving my game and logistics quite a bit to get there. I have no reference experience with seduction this fast but it doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. On another note re: 1965 – I’ve had women ask me what my biggest turn-off is and I always tell them “when a woman does something to reduce her femininity”. It is a very bitter pill for me to swallow when I see a woman with her head… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ26uu9lz2A

OK one last one… 2011 Diane Lane is 51 here… So… keep this in mind when shopping.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

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The tree from which Ms. Lane’s apple fell… 1957 Miss October.

Always look at the moms…

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

@ hank

I’m on vacation breathing deep clean, fresh southern air and trying to catch every fish in a enormous lake. I’m popping in every so often to read comments, but not too much time to comment myself. Lots good talk going on.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Lane’s father comes up often in any discussion of her career; she had a complicated relationship with both him (he died in 2002) and her mother. Her parents divorced when Lane was just two weeks old, and Lane was ‘tossed between them like a football’, she says. When it came to Lane performing, ‘Mom and dad would fight about it, but dad would win,’ she says. By her mid teens she was estranged from her mother, living with her father in New York. Lane admits that, even today, Burt’s influence looms large in her life. ‘I was his final project.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

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Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Catchers

“Yes to all of your questions. ”

ok then. Now ACT like it. See how things change.

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

ok FR a bit later didn’t go where i wanted to, just stayed local. no chicks here ofc but spent a lot of time hanging out with random people and getting tons of free beers feel bad about it because i need to go downtown…its just, nothing is there. and like, locals are boring is fuck, but where i work an live around is suuuuuuppppperr disproportionately travelers and salesmen and foreigners and i get sploited and shit hard to go out when you know there is only a 5% chance of seeing anything couple from the other day are flaking.… Read more »

j
j
8 years ago

@Hank

“as I am walking back to my car”

“might have a job at a touristy beach spot here soon. its a ways off, but wish it was further. its still in the general area I have been. but it should have more bars and clubs and people from all over than what I have here.”

Take the job (instant social proof/status. Girls are sluttier there compared to the shitty local scene). Sell the car. Use that money and money you’ve saved from your current job (hopefully) and get a apartment nearby (good logistics).= lots of sexy time.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

J

Hank doesn’t want actionable advice. He wants coddling and someone to entertain his endless excuses or lack of self realization…

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

got a call from one of the jobs at the new location. not 100% its for an interview, but should be. will call back when i have the time tomorrow couple from the other day texted me back. dude was out of town for a long while, but he said they might be able to meet up with me soon. still on to meet the married chick soon. @j, once i get the job, i can get set up there fairly easily. got relatives that can help. can stay with grandparents and scout out a good apartment. but theres still… Read more »

mersonia
8 years ago

fml……………………………… Idk 0–______–0 if yall would be useful in this but ima post it.

j
j
8 years ago

lol just fucked a newly married 27 yr old chick, living with her beta bucks husband, in a dark alley. These hoes ain’t loyal.

scars
scars
8 years ago

Made notes on my phone at the end of the night so I wouldn’t foget any of the approachces, lol I watched some RSDJeffy stuff where he says to only concentrate on self amusing on the open although it didn’t work out well for me last night. 1/ I order a cocktail and then accuse the girl on my left of being jealous of my fancy drink. She laughs and we banter a little. She’s from Hungary which might explain the lack of negative attitude on her part. I make some jokey assumptions about what she does for a living.… Read more »

IAS
IAS
8 years ago

@Scars: at my skill level it is pretty hard to diagnose from a text FR, but I’m guessing you are coming off as too “predatory” to your targets.

A few things to try: open them without being too turned to them (like feet pointing somewhere else and head turned over shoulder, then face them when they engage); open someone else in the group that isn’t your target (even a guy maybe).

You also have some internals to work on, seems like you open expecting to be blown out/expecting it to be hard. What you feel they feel.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
8 years ago

@Scars – good going for getting out there and opening. I wouldn’t worry too much. This kind of bad reception happens to everyone from time to time. If it happens all the time or in the vast majority of your approaches then you may well have some internals/subcomms issue going on in terms of being uncalibrated or giving off the wrong vibe (as IAS says), but in your case it’s hard to say. You also had some good reception and some sets opening well, so I can’t be sure. In any event the solution is pretty much the same –… Read more »

mersonia
8 years ago

@scars

Nothing will work if you don’t believe it .

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Scars I watched some RSDJeffy stuff where he says to only concentrate on self amusing on the open although it didn’t work out well for me last night. Do you know why? 1. We chat a little longer and I bail. Sooo? What were you expecting, a BJ? Why did you bail on a hooked set? Stay in set and push forward until they physically leave. 2. a boat load of her friends bowl towards the bar and suddenly she’s in a conversation with her girlfriends. I should have tried to carry on with her “So how do you all… Read more »

scars
scars
8 years ago

Thanks for the replies, guys. Sentient, no i’m not a virgin, but I’ve always been very unsuccessful with girls. I’m 29. I’ve had 1 or 2 one night stands in my life, but that’s it. Out again last night – Another FR. Bit different to usual as I wasn’t approaching loads of girls as the first set lasted the whole night basically, although I messed up by being a pussy. I’m so used to getting shot down at the open that I felt a bit out of my depth when I wasn’t shot down, lol and despite reading so much… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Scars You never answered… I watched some RSDJeffy stuff where he says to only concentrate on self amusing on the open although it didn’t work out well for me last night. Do you know why? One thing I see over and over is guys taking lots of time to run around pell-mell, having ingested a fire-hose worth of PUA materials, opening like crazy and writing voluminous field reports to nowhere… and they never spend any time thinking about the why behind the how… The anxiety to Just Do It ™ supplants Think Through It ™… Do yourself a favor. Understand… Read more »

Anon01
Anon01
8 years ago

@scars 1/”[…]We chat a little longer and I bail.” Why? – – – – – – 2/”[…]then a boat load of her friends bowl towards the bar and suddenly she’s in a conversation with her girlfriends. I should have tried to carry on with her somehow as she was very pretty and not rude like i’m more used too.” It would be safe to assume that all hot chicks are not there alone. You should be waiting for her friends to be somewhere around, or as it happened, come in the set. Her friends seeing you talking to her would… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

@scars good so far, here’s a few tips #1 You mention feeling kind of predatory, somewhat hesitant to approach. Generally the best way to open is as you pass by. Imagine that as you pass a stranger, you suddenly notice he is actually a good friend of yours. you’d do a kind of double take right? So same here when you open, rather then just walking **straight** up to them like you are hunting them down and vomiting out “heyhowsitgoingsoiheardgirlsliemorethanboys” or whatever, you just walk past and glance over and say “so…I heard someone say girls lie more than boys…what… Read more »

IRL
IRL
8 years ago

Re the text from a girl from another city. @CatchersIndifference “In general, I’d engage a bit in banter over text but leave the conversation at a high point and make sure to include the appropriate amount of innuendo for your relationship to leave her feeling good.” I don’t banter with them over text, that’s boyfriend/orbiter behavior in my book. I used to text more, but it just kills attraction if it doesn’t lead to a meet over a long time (not my city, so it can’t), sets the wrong tone (something more, pen pals, giving attentions like others). I don’t… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

Remember that guy who grabbed my number and wanted to pick up chicks together…but he flaked on me? Ends up he had a good excuse and still wants to go out. So in a few days we will meetup downtown. Hopefully that will work out…buuut I may be gone for interviews then… I should have at least two interviews at the new place (maybe 3), already had an impromptu phone interview with one store. Good chance I can get a job at one at least. Not sure how much I can work the two stores since they are a part… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
8 years ago

@hank – the new schedule and taking long weekends sounds doable. Plus you only have to do it in the winter, cos it sounds like the party will come to you in the summer.

That’s better than my schedule and I get quite a lot of gaming in when I’m in the Big City.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Whew! I finally finished Reality Transurfing by Vadim Zeland. It is a phenomenal read. I think I’ve been slaving over six months to finish it. It has so many applications to Game, you wouldn’t believe it. And it is Red Pill Straight up and to it’s core. It’s about enlightened self interest and how to to go about it properly without being a dick. It is a primer on how to avoid being butt-hurt, how to leverage positivism, how to not cock-block yourself, and how to always be moving toward the Action state, but also get the world to meet… Read more »

mersonia
8 years ago

Don’t really have time for ya’ll so ima skim but you know when I’m here I always spread da blessins to my chillren “#1 You mention feeling kind of predatory, somewhat hesitant to approach. Generally the best way to open is as you pass by. “ Get use to feel predatory your a man…and its the natural right. You should be able to direct approach and tell a female you want to fuck her while looking her in the eyes and not feeling weird at all. Of course indirect approaches do work wonders but you gotta be versatile bby get… Read more »

mersonia
8 years ago

@Scar “I’m annoyed at myself and can’t seem to figure out the escalation stuff, but it was actually a little confidence boost to have such a generally positive, well received interaction. It’s a rarity” Just bust moves….. you’ll get it together eventually if you don’t give up. Thats the magic of life. Theres actually guides on it too I think …basically just remember 2 steps forward 1 step back @Palm “Either target more intelligent women or dumb yourself down” ……….just don’t make logical jokes. I literally sat down by myself last night and looked at a group of i think… Read more »

theasdgamer
8 years ago

Shit test night last night Girls were shit testing the fuck out of me. One asked me to dance, then didn’t wanna talk to me afterwards. We didn’t talk during the dance–I just turned her a lot and she had a good time. Another gave me an A-frame hug. I went even gayer and grinned big. Agree and amplify. Two other girls asked me to dance, too. One girl asked me to sit at her table. Towards the end of my evening, I asked a girl to dance after dancing with her friend. I wanted to tell a joke, so… Read more »

SFC Ton
8 years ago

Let me guess….. Another good looking girl you didn’t bang? How drool

theasdgamer
8 years ago

” I already knew how to do most of this stuff, but the codified way to have proper mindset just makes it all more efficient.”

When girls ask me what I do, I say that I work in animal rescue…I’m very in touch with the earth…I put Willy the One-Eyed Wonder Weasel in his virgin habitat.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Merinsomnia You whiny little feminine bitch–changing the subject of discussion. My comment in Field Reports was meant to guide other men in the Red Pill Guild to further their Game. By reading a good guide. It’s great. It outlines missing elements of most of the strictly PUA commenters in a broader life (like you and YaReally, not guys like Sentient and Culum. Go figure. And you want to make comments about me. Good luck with that. “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the… Read more »

theasdgamer
8 years ago

“Let me guess….. Another good looking girl you didn’t bang? How drool”

Shouldn’t you be pulling the wings off of flies?

j
j
8 years ago

@theasdgamer “Then the girl asked if I traveled. First time I’ve been asked that and had no idea where it was going. So I said, “Of course.” She told me about a country bar about three hours drive away in a small town and was trying to sell me on it.” “I’ve seen her in the bar before. Anyway, I suppose she could have been fishing for a meetup if I was traveling through her town” If this is the same bar you frequent with your wife, then she probably knows you’re married (“I can’t go to his place, let… Read more »

scars
scars
8 years ago

thanks mersonia, hank etc. I think it’s an issue in my head in that I feel as though in order to get past the ‘friendly’/non-sexual kino (such as touching her on the arm to emphasise a point etc which im’ fine with) I need a kind of ‘reason’. An ‘excuse’. For example, If I tease her harshly and she pretends to be upset, i’d have no problem with kind of hugging her as if to apologise in a jokey way, or maybe in a conversation about tattoos i’d be fine with touching her arms etc, but I can’t always rely… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

“And that leaves me the feeling that i’m often kind of escalating out of nowhere which I just feel is weird.”

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Mystery is confused and concerned…

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago
Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXyku5nZSE0

Take heed, those who approach without results…

mersonia
8 years ago

@Scars “I gather that this is more my own issue though? I mean, is there technically anything wrong with ‘kinoing out of nowhere’ as in the goodfellas example avoe?” If you have a issue….. its probably yours lol. I mean I wouldn’t just go out grabbing girls I don’t know without a reason….. but its perfectly natural for humans to physically interact. ” If i’m just sitting with her and we’re talking about our favourite films i’d feel weird about them brushing her on the abdomen for example whilst i’m in mid sentence about Goodfellas!” Why would you feel weird… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Mersonia That last video you posted is garbage… only autist (SJF ,ASDGAMER , maybe u 2(I’m starting to think that alot of you are autistic)) really think they can just go run around all day and talk to “sets” and not do anything else in life. Yet we have a bunch of guys here roaming around with their dick in their hand… some even pretend they are experts at game… and yes they probably are autistic, or have other obvious issues that they are neglecting [hygiene etc.], as Valmont points out. But they find succor in “taking action” which in… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

How many approaches does it take to get laid? 10,000 wrong [technical skill, mindset, motivation etc.] will not equal 1 right…

In other words, – for spergs and austist – either game works or it doesn’t, either evo bio/psych is real or it isn’t, either women are AWALT or they’re not, either women are attracted to Alpha or they’re not…

So 1 approach done right will work on 1 girl…

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY2PmGqL0QE

and I do lurv Valmont [no homo]… Smooooooove…. take note newbs.

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
8 years ago

@Sentient

To your point there is a guy “taking action” for 43 days in a row on TRP subreddit yet somehow he’s stuck just opening girls, number closing, then completely flailing on the dates he does get.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/6qf62s/my_seduction_journey_43/

One of the biggest turning points for me was understanding the “why” and understanding what I want.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Catchers

One of the biggest turning points for me was understanding the “why” and understanding what I want.

Nice… it is no mystery [punny!] that a lot of guys who are virgins in their mid 20’s have some social issues, spectrum issues. Shit, Tyler is the poster boy. So they replace one set of bad habits with another. I read one guy posting I think at CH had done something over 3,000 approaches and still hadn’t got a number…

mersonia
8 years ago

@Senty “Yet we have a bunch of guys here roaming around with their dick in their hand…” yeah….true. I’ve actually been wondering if most guys even want to fuck actual females (atleast guys who post on the net) . I know l long term porn has a ton of effects on guys and I’ve met enough that say they’d rather just watch porn and whatnot because their nueroplasticity causes them to be aroused by screens/images instead of actual human bodies. I feel at no point should any man just be able to say “I’m going to just go my own… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Mersonia

“I’ve actually been wondering if most guys even want to fuck actual females”

I’ve wondered this as well, maybe some latent homos. Also a lot of correlation with Gamma behaviors.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDNGmPpcMq8

Catchers, Culum

So much this… intent, Body language, tone, eye contact, kino, teasing, man to woman, flirting, leading… smooooth.

Watch her reactions… This is how to be impactful, In four minutes. On a native non ESL girl with above average looks…

You can can be doing this all day long.

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
8 years ago

Hey Everyone, So, I finally got a number and a date, but it doesn’t really count, because I didn’t ask for it. A post menopausal Japanese lady at the swimming pool took a bit of shine to me after I helped her with her swimming technique a bit, and she wouldn’t leave me alone, finally asking me out (she even said she would pay). So I thought “why not” and went along with it. She seemed nice and I didn’t want to upset her there and then. During dinner she was complaining about how bad her husband was to her… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Chunky!

finally asking me out (she even said she would pay).

Why no bangy bang bang? If she went under the table and blew you during dinner, would you have gone along with it not to upset her?

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
8 years ago

@ChunkyMonkey

Did you want to go on this dinner date? Didn’t seem like you did and acquiesced purely to be courteous to her. Were you attracted to this woman?

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

If you are going to sit through her “emotional disrobing” story, might as well get a BJ out of it…

CatchersIndifference
CatchersIndifference
8 years ago

I love how women will post advice online “for men” about the “top 10 things you should never do on a first date” but in action they break almost every one of them. This particular example, “talking about exes”. LOL

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
8 years ago

@Sentient That would have been embarrassing, because the old chap would’ve have been struggling (I’m not 16 anymore when the mere mention of the word female had him stirring). @Catchers She seems a nice lady, intelligent too, and even likes some of the things I like economics, history, and classic literature (swimming too of course). It’s a shame. If I was a different sort, there was the potential there to take serious advantage of her, as in her being an orbiter. However, it makes me so angry when I see women doing that to men, that my conscience says “no”.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Scars

Re kino…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJSJgVQ4y9U

“You’re being a massive pussy” – M. Valmont

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

” there was the potential there to take serious advantage of her. . . it makes me so angry when I see women doing that to men, that my conscience says “no”.”

You’re a very Nice Man.

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
8 years ago

@kfg Not really, I didn’t put that very well and I sound like a bit of a dick. To put it more precisely, without me asking she was willing to do and pay for stuff for me (she overtly said several things in this respect), which would have been wrong of me to accept. @Sentient + Catchers I had a bit of fun with the “denying sex with husband and subsequent divorce” lament. I told her that “Did she not realise that most men, at about the age of 14 or 15, wake up one morning, permanently horny, for the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Chunky…

she told me that “she couldn’t work out why she loved and hated me”.

Can you?

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
8 years ago

@Sentient,

Good question,

Firstly, whilst I told her something she didn’t like, I wasn’t bullshitting and was prepared to stand by it despite any potential consequences i.e. I was authentic.

Secondly, as PUAs and EvoPysch blogs are always saying, women enjoy experiencing a range of emotions, and I was doing that.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Firstly, whilst I told her something she didn’t like I wasn’t bullshitting and was prepared to stand by it despite any potential consequences

and you held your frame didn’t back down when she gave you negative emotion to this… i.e. psychological dominance so she could imagine you being decisive and dominant… the strong oak etc.

I’m a little miffed you didn’t have her pay for dinner and then bang her black and blue in your car… just for the reference experience… then toss her number and handle your indignation that way…

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“I didn’t put that very well and I sound like a bit of a dick.”

Well, let’s see . . .

” . . . she was willing to do and pay for stuff for me (she overtly said several things in this respect), which would have been wrong of me to accept.”

You sound like a very Nice Man. Honorable(tm) even.

theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Sentient Mersonia “I’ve actually been wondering if most guys even want to fuck actual females” I’ve wondered this as well, maybe some latent homos. Also a lot of correlation with Gamma behaviors. Reminds me, I was doing a line dance Sat. night and some of the song’s lyrics were, “I feel like a woman,” which I sang in a dramatically low and gravelly voice. Of course, everyone who heard it laughed. A black PUA near me who’s a friend said that I sounded scary, to which I replied that I was getting the operation next month. Fun times. Some guy… Read more »

Johnycomelately
Johnycomelately
8 years ago

Just a quick question for the regulars, beta bucks problems. How do you dump a girl who you haven’t had sex with yet but who is ultra keen, pursuing hard and set up a time for sex? Met a girl at church (38 hb 5, only because she’s skinny) who I only had platonic intentions for but somehow she got it in her head we were an item. She used my mom to get to me. Through a couple of conversations I get the distinct impression this girl was an ex plate for a polyamorous sexy millionaire lawyer (multiple languages,… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

okay got a min before I go out for a bit for daygame. as usual, got a few free beers from people, high gravity so gotta wait a tic beers were after the mom here, so no beer goggles whatsoever in this story anyway, chick comes in –> shes the mom of the girl who I was “hitting on”. but, doesn’t really make much sense to me because her daughter and the mom always liked me, even when the “incident” happened” so I really feel like it was more of a manager overreacting than anything else. the mom though, she’s… Read more »

j
j
8 years ago

@Johnycomelately

http://www.pualingo.com/pawn-pawning/

dr zipper
dr zipper
8 years ago

kfg – if you want to help, spell it out for him, your point seems too subtle and is being missed; breadcrumbs…. too far apart; or at least give him the first nibble free lol

chunky – listen to Sentient… took me a while, but have come to understand and embrace more and more of his approach; still a long way to go but I’m getting good results; my biggest gains are from BOTH action and understanding

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

” . . . at least give him the first nibble free ”

I need the first nibble free myself. I’m still trying to figure out what he was doing there. What he was, for his own life purposes, looking to get out of the deal.

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

shit was slow, but got more info on the place I want to go to. first was at a book store. white chick there. open her if any of these books are any good. she’s says she just got there, doesn’t know anything. not receptive AT ALL. I nod and go to stroke my beard…but I just shaved it. so I laugh and joke with her about how I used to have this huge zz top beard (an exaggeration) and it throws me off now that I’m clean shaven. nothing from her, she’s not having it. now, at this point,… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

also quick clarification on hippie milf, since it seems like I had a huge greenlight to run off with her there at the end. I’m trying to be a bit vague on things is the main reason. She had a legit reason to leave abruptly that I couldn’t really get around. Plus this is in a small community where I work, and there was the issue with her daughter an all a while back, so I have to tread lightly here.

SFC Ton
8 years ago

Friendly non sexual Kino? Weird

SFC Ton
8 years ago

just want this to go away quietly without ruffling feathers and the least pain possible
………

Lame her lament will get the rest of her social circle damp in the pants

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Just for the record: I’m not autistic. I pose as one here from a previous legacy as being ignorant and unable to express myself. I’m living the Anna Karenina Happy Family life. The one component I was lacking was that married red pill Game that I regained and got. The one missing component was that desire sex that I did regain. So Mersonia doesn’t have to tell me how successful at financial, good home, good hobbies, good acquisitions, good high value wife who has tremendously valuable qualities after fucking her, raising two good children to their young twenties, having a… Read more »

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Also Mersonia:

Your thoughts tend towards the retarded:

…..less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one’s age.

Comment better.

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

“Also Mersonia: Your thoughts . . . ”

Is that what those are? Go figure.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

“Also Mersonia: Your thoughts . . . ”

His thoughts are reflexive. Not actual wisdom. Just primitive instinct. Which is admirable from the heart, bu not sufficient.

One thing I noticed is that Mersonia didn’t define his Frame. Not that he needs to up until the point that that leads him to a deficit in being sufficient in commentary.

He’s not a troll. He’s not a PUA. Who is he and what defines his Frame?

Lack of definition. Lack of Frame reference. Lack of substantial saying. Use context.

“Use your Words”.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Last I checked, “Go Figure!” was the sine qua non of Red Pill.

theasdgamer
8 years ago

“That last video you posted is garbage… only autist (SJF ,ASDGAMER , maybe u 2(I’m starting to think that alot of you are autistic)) really think they can just go run around all day and talk to “sets” and not do anything else in life.

mersonia thinks he’s omniscient, lol

j
j
8 years ago

“The way he grabbed my hair… He felt so dominant… It was literally turning my knees weak and my panties wet. I knew I wanted him and he wanted me.”

“There was something in the way he moved and talked that made me so submissive”

5 Minutes of Alpha…

https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidslutsclub/comments/6qoltd/how_i_cheated_on_my_exboyfriend/

Alpha Jedi
8 years ago

A good friend of mine and I were out at on of our favorite local hot spots and had an encounter that I had to share. For those that want the full story, go here: https://alphajedi.com/2017/07/30/hustling-the-hustler/ TL;DR: We get in, grab some dinner and drinks and are having a merry time. Toward 1am we go to the bar to close out our tab so we could go to another spot close by with some of the waitresses and girls we had met that night. At the end of the bar was this group of women in their 40’s that were… Read more »

SFC Ton
8 years ago

Man I had some chicks try to pull that drink scam shit the last time I was in Nashville. It was by wedding party type deal in our hotel bar. They sat next to me while I was pre-gaming and some middle age broad told the bartender I was picking up their round. Went to cash out and 4 bourbons and some chicken wings was over a hondo. Asked the bartender what was up, he told me, I told him fuck no snake, don’t buy them drinks until after I see them nekkid. The bartender said bitches in Nashville try… Read more »

SFC Ton
8 years ago

3 lessons, don’t marry nurses

IAS
IAS
8 years ago

@SFC Ton: why the qualifier, LOL… “Don’t marry” is enough 🙂 Also, yours is I think the third story in a few days about a newlywed/bride-to-be lay report @Sentient: just saw the videos by Valmont, I have something to say about the two that show him day gaming and number closing hotties. He is clearly a master so I’m not questioning that, but there are a few things that throw me off in methodology and that are probably bad ideas for novices like me – in both cases he opened super direct with a compliment to their physical attributes (not… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
8 years ago

@Sentient – I saw that Valmont video about PUAs who do spam approaches etc. He’s definitely got a point in the sense that there are lots of guys like that who are making not much progress despite putting in a huge amount of effort (I’ve met a lot from my local PUA lair/forum). That said, I think he’s caricaturing PUA a bit (quite a bit). YaReally wrote about this quite a lot – PUA doesn’t say you shouldn’t have a well-rounded life and shouldn’t have hobbies or be a complete man. YaReally said – and I agree – that it’s… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
8 years ago

@IAS – that point is addressed by YaReally several times in the archives. Basically if you go direct you are forcing her to make a choice about you pretty much immediately (if she continues to engage with you after you go direct, it’s a major green light). If your value is high enough in the first few seconds, it can absolutely work ( value being looks, subcomms, even the confidence to go direct is a bonus). However, as a general rule, it takes longer for women to assess male value than the opposite, because our value is less looks based.… Read more »

SFC Ton
8 years ago

Why the qualifier? Because half the dudes reading here think they have found or will find a unicorn and I think more detailed do not do X is a more forceful reminder.

LOL didn’t know it was that common of a story. There are only a handful of regular commentators I read and I missed the bride to be bang reports.

Also would like to note, my bar staff has been told to not put drinks on anyone tab without their express consent. The bar staff is held fiscally responsible if they fail to comply.

ChunkyMonkey
ChunkyMonkey
8 years ago

@kfg + Zipper So that’s what you were asking, “what was I doing there?”. Fair question, I was there largely to temper her enthusiasm (to give you some idea, she had worked out all of my swim times and turned up every time I was at the pool), but to do so without causing a meltdown, or completely crushing the poor woman. I’ve also been here before, where women have got a bit fixated, and telling them that I’m not available or not interested, literally crushes them, or causes a major meltdown (a couple of these have resulted in a… Read more »

IAS
IAS
8 years ago

@Culum: I get going direct and indeed YaReally stressed that, it is good if you want to churn through high numbers faster for those reasons. You can still go direct without complimenting on the girl’s looks though, you can compliment the girl’s clothing or not compliment at all and just say you wanted to come to meet her without giving any “indirect” reason. It is specifically the girl’s looks thing that is confusing. I mean, they pretty much know why you are opening them anyway, even in fairly indirect. @SFC Ton: it is kind of ridiculous that bar staff have… Read more »

theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Culum

the spam approachers with awkward social skills

First learn FAG (Fuckup Avoidance Game), which autists often need, then approach.

I’m always working on my social skills…even here on TRM…took me a while to figure out Ton’s recent shit tests…lol

Pro tip to mersonia…don’t call people autists unless you actually know they are…and never use it in a derogatory way…it’s like calling a black man a “nigger”…don’t do that shit…it shows poor social skills to behave like that…DLV

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