For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
IAS
What’s missing is you isolating her. You needed to set some plans after the first time she said she was leaving.
IAS
” It seems the best move going forward is to pretend the text didn’t happen.”
Yes. Dont respond at all for a few days minimum. Let that hamster spin up. Wait until she hits you with a few more texts, get her chasing. And then text back, get off the email pen pal thing.
Friday Night FR I said I wouldn’t post unless I made progress but I am making progress, so.. I was incredibly tired last night (worked all day on 2-3 hours sleep) and was legitimately too tired to go out. But my quasi-natural wing was coming and I so rarely get to go out with wings, that I forced myself to shower and down a double espresso.. ..at which point he calls and flakes on me (pretty standard – he’s like a girl I swear – but ten minutes before I need to leave home is unusual even for him). I… Read more »
I mean – if *that girl* wanted me and Approach Invited me as soon as I came into her sight and locked on to me even with a crappy open..there’s no excuse for me not getting girls who are way below that quality level..of course the other girls want me..who wouldn’t?
Oh and one technical point that I *did* do well with the 8 – this is a result of watching those old Mystery videos on Youtube recently (I’m still going through them) – I never squared up and leaned into the 8 – I was standing beside her, but I opened her over my shoulder and kept body toward the bar with my face turned slightly towards her to speak. Didn’t give her the validation of leaning into her or giving her my full body language attention (I’d have turned in fully later and done some kino if I’d lasted… Read more »
@IAS
I defer to Sentient’s judgement on the way forward via text but I don’t think I could resist dropping a simple “lol” as a reply. You convey you are amused with this “I have a bf / you’re married” shit test and let her know you’re above it. If she was so concerned with her relationship status then what’s with the penpal game and two dates? lol.
@Sentient: I had her in isolation from cockblocks (but in a public setting with crowds) for about one hour at the start. Not enough isolation for a bang but enough for a make-out, and I didn’t act. I already had some DHV’s during that time but I’d say the most obvious DHV did happen after the cockblocks arrived. I couldn’t ditch them up to leaving her to catch her transport. I guess technically I could make something up about where I’m going, and catch the same transport as her (crossed my mind but seemed like chasing). But then what, I… Read more »
@Culum: good job man. Don’t be too hard on yourself, and keep opening the legit hotties. In that situation you need to engage the group to have good chances I think. Remember you will need to “borrow her” from the group for like 2 min to number close her and set something up that night after she ditches the others. You identify a key turning point correctly but it seems to me you don’t quite realize you started to mess up slightly earlier… This is my analysis. The gay thing is probably a bad play overall and a DLV. It… Read more »
Thanks IAS. Yes, I tried to engage the group when I wished the sister happy birthday etc towards the end and then I said something to the boyfriend too. But by then it was my third or fourth time engaging them, plus I was so tired I just didn’t do a good job of it, and it was after the gay comments. As for the gay comments..I don’t think talking about gays in itself is a DLV – it is an excellent way to sexualize without making the girl feel uncomfortable (similar to the old Mystery Method advice about telling… Read more »
@IAS – To add to the sexualizing/gay thing btw, I’ve been thinking about this. I fell into it almost by accident – trial and error on lots and lots of online dates – but it works for me because of the inherent contrast. When people meet me (and even more so, from online), the usual first impression is “straightlaced career guy”. Made worse when they find out what I do for work (the kind of job that girls love to take home to meet their mom and keep them in a nice house, but no one is fantasizing about being… Read more »
IAS “I couldn’t ditch them up to leaving her to catch her transport.” Ok isolated is not in a crowd. It’s one on one. So she was very safe, people all around AND friends incoming. You use this time to build the fire. Then when she starts hinting at leaving – which means you missed some sign btw, you should be aware earlier than her – you can whisper to her ” Go to xyz I will meet you there in 20, I’ll take care of you friends”. Yoy set up a me and you against the world thing. Secret… Read more »
Culum
Some thoughts for you tomorrow.
@Culum After you had lost her attention to her sister, you could have rolled off and opened more sets (Short Set Method) to get you in the zone. That way when you’d re-approach HB8 you’d be sharper (first sets are rarely the best sets) and even have triggered preselection (you said she was looking around (DTF) so she’d have definitely spotted you chatting up other chicks. All that stuff about “there’s so much I could have done” would have just come out cause you’d be more free/social momentum. Here’s a FR of how The Awakened One handled the same dynamic… Read more »
Culum Good fr. Glad you are makimg progeess. On the 8… You were close but still actimg like a dog. You were executing your program, which is good. It’s action but it plays to the cat’s strength… So you strode up to the bar and took the seat next to her. Great! Now you tske up an Alpha body language position and open the bartender and you WAIT for her to open you. You waited before opening her, which is good. Bit what will she think of the guy who strides in, radiates confidence, looks like a sexy alpha… Opens… Read more »
@HABD Thanks…I’m ambivalent about the girl because I’ve already got kids and she doesn’t…her bf is a douche and gets no consideration from me…I figure she’ll move on from him… …I tried out asking a girl to buy me a drink when she wanted my attention, including dancing…she did, lol, it was trippy, she was a smokin’ hot redhead…I kind of felt like I had grown tits and lost my dick…it seemed like a chick move…otoh, I don’t mind giving the bar some business…but I’m a draw, so I’m a net plus for the bar even if I don’t buy… Read more »
@J & @Sentient thank you. J – yeah that’s spot on (btw, someone who actually remembers more random shit out of the YaReally Archive than I do – there’s a first!). This was a smallish upscale hotel bar, very low-key and high-end. Not really feasible to go around opening lots of sets fast – not enough people and wrong vibe. There was a two-set of 6/7 at the far end of the bar, who were in conversation with the two guys next to them, and mostly guys or tight couples across the rest of the bar. Some of the tables… Read more »
Oh and btw I was opened on the street by a homeless dude. It was hilarious. He told me he liked my haircut (did not get a gay vibe – and he didn’t ask me for money either) and that he’d just gotten into a shelter for the next few nights so he was really happy. I actually listened and asked him about the shelter and stuff for a couple of minutes.
Clearly if homeless guys find me attractive, the girls cannot be far behind..
Culum You have to keep in mind in places like that, which are my favorite spots btw, YOU have high value already just by being there… By BELONGING there. The girls are at the honey pot. It’s not ladies night at the local. So when you have an air of indiffernce to beauty, are demonstrating social skills with bartenders and staff, and effortlessly charming the men and women around you, you’ve already gamed her. It’s her move. No this does not mean James Bond in the corner. It means accept you are the prize, she is on the back foot… Read more »
Way back upthread. “Power of Positive Thinking, but from a well designed, reasoned way.” This. PPT gets a bad rap, I get it. It’s a business plan similar to a lot of pay-for PUA seminars. There’s value in a glass-half-full attitude, IMO. Masculinity is more the the sum total of the comment thread. It is knowable enough with in short order…doable only with a desire for reconstruction. A metsmorphosis is first possible with belief it can happen. Sentient asks often: What is your purpose here? What’s your end goal? I ask myself this a lot, my rudder’s truer for it,… Read more »
Thanks Sentient – that’s definitely on the list for trying tomorrow or day after – I will probably be hitting the hotel bars after a work event so we’ll see how it goes.
Uhh. The guy next to me at this brew pub has Zima bottle as his phones login screenshot.
I asked “Whats the chance you’re a liquor rep?”
Him, no his nohomo friend spoke for him: “Zero.”
So in my sports activity… I’m kind of the outsider for several reasons. One is that I joined several months ago and with frequent trips I’m not always there, whereas the others have been doing it in the same place for years. I befriended them anyway (pretty friendly bunch actually). I want to number close some of the girls. One of them is sometimes there but isn’t practicing any more (she used to do it but she is injured). I have had some great DHV opportunities and got subtle IOIs from her, want to number close her to then arrange… Read more »
@IAS – why do you need the number at all?
To quote Sentient from the last FR – if your goal is to bang her (not get the number), then why not do something like arrange a group outing for drinks for everyone and flirt and isolate her over drinks?
If you *just* want the number, you can just create a WhatsApp group for everyone who does your activity and get everyone’s numbers. But that’s not really the goal is it?
@Culum: I think getting the number is the shortest way to get to the end goal in this case, given that I can’t instadate her from that setting (e.g. she has to go home with the brother). So get the number, set up date with good logistics. Seems rather direct. The group outing actually seems more convoluted, no? Set up group outing, maybe she doesn’t show up while others do, if she does show up maybe the brother is also there and she may have driven him, I still need to instadate her out of the group outing… Incidentally, not… Read more »
IAS The FI is working you… The thing with young girls is either the FI shaming you, or and this happens to me a lot, they are just so childish at that age it is a turn off. Not bitchy, hard to get etc. Actually childlike. Now having had 3 daughters now over 18 and dealt for years with innumerable of their friends over the house, perhaps this has colored by perspective. Much prefer the 22 to 30 range. 22 to 24 much sexier to me than most 18… They’ve leaned out, lost some of that baby phat, figured out… Read more »
Culum Here is a short example of the hotel bar situ when you don’t force an open. So it’s a Monday night so slow. Hit a fee places which were slow and as is often the case date night just a few couples. Met a dude who is one year divorced. Tall jock looks, has his own business. Just back dating after 10 year marriage. He is waiting on his Tinderella. Half hour late she shows up. OK looking early 30s E chick. Was Iraqi so dark hair and eyes. But pretty, made up. Nice teeth. Professional dress. Very talkative.… Read more »
@IAS – well, if it’s difficult to get her alone in the existing environment, you may need to arrange for a new environment, even if it’s a bit more complicated to arrange (ie, if you don’t do Sentient’s approach for any reason). Besides, there are other advantages to the drinks outing – organizing it makes you the leader, you can DHV even more by opening other sets and merging and being the social centre of the room, there will be more opportunities to isolate the girl, alcohol will be involved, etc, etc. And it will make you more attractive to… Read more »
@Sentient – good FR. I think perhaps subconsciously you just couldn’t be bothered with the woman. You know..juice not worth the squeeze kind of thing. Good example though..that bit where you actually move over to *join* her is the one where I’m so far falling short. Definitely trying it though – tonight I’m attending a singles event (this is the same one I killed it at, a few months ago, but I’m solo this time round..and then I may swing by some hotel bars a bit later if there’s time. Tomorrow evening I’m definitely doing some hotel bars and then… Read more »
FR Out dancing at my usual place earlier this week and I’m cooling off a bit after dancing a bunch of songs in a row. I’m standing in front of a huge fan and focused on the dance floor as the dancers pass by when a tall HB6 opens me asking if I go out dancing often to which I reply, “Yes, usually 3 times per week … would you like to dance?” She tells me she’s waiting on her “fiance” but says I’m “sweet” for asking and offers up her HB1 obese friend telling me she wants to dance.… Read more »
““Here’s my ID…” as I grab her hand and lead her onto the dance floor.” That ain’t burden, that’s the way to do it. “Thinking about it over night I should have turned around and re-engaged with, “You should walk me to my car so I feel safe…” ” Yeah, that would have been good, but allow me to voice a bit of heresy in some parts: You don’t have to meet every IOI with an immediate pick up. “She’s probably also not used to using this tactic and not being engaged.” So guess who just became Mr. Stands Out… Read more »
Catchers Baller… Baller move! Hat tip. I’m with kfg… Not every yapping dog gets a treat. Remember game is backward engineered from watching hot girls… You are the hot girl here (lol) and she has the hard on. Perfect. Just be cool next time you see her, qualify her and then reward her with some alone time. Don’t rush it… Else you will spoil her trance. The is the sticky point to get right… Too little interest she ejects to ego protect… Too much and you’ve lowered your value and she goes cold. Keeping it on the razors edge is… Read more »
Catchers
What kind of dancing is this? Some type of cultural thing or what?
Thanks all – appreciate the guidance.
@Sentient
This is country dancing (various patterns) but always leader / follower. It can be considered cultural to the area as it’s a bit of a variation on some of the classic steps.
https://youtu.be/4-Gt-8vV8xM
Culum
“The is the sticky point to get right… Too little interest she ejects to ego protect… Too much and you’ve lowered your value and she goes cold.”
This cat seems all primed and ready to play with the string.
@Sentient: I think you are right re: sports girl, that is the way to go. I’ll see if I catch her tomorrow, set up for Friday. E-mail saga, I’m laughing out loud so at least it is worth it for that. Told her to add me where we could live chat. She did. I think it backfires on me though. First: she outright tells me she doesn’t use it much other than to talk to her LDR bf. Next night she opens me and goodnight and such (her initiative but I replied). I still had some stuff that I wanted… Read more »
IAS
Just ignore that shit, slip her frame off. Set up another meet when you are there, isolate and escalate. Less digital contact.
IAS
What’s good about text is it is a more fluid, stream of consciousness medium, it’s more private and there is a camera right there. 📷
So…. Here you could text about panties… And when she shit tests you tease her about how she probably has granny panties on and when she objects you toss off “show me” and when she objects again you tease her with being a prude… And then ” show me” and leave it… And wait her out. You would be surprised how often they cant resist firing back a picture.
@IAS
She won’t buy the cow if she gets the milk for free
http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/12/#comment-heartiste-506461
@Sentient: I should really get a smartphone…
IAS
“I’m too similar to her bf, other than some differences like me going around hand holding other girls “which he better not be” ”
So what is the boyfriend destroyer response to this?
@Sentient: the one that occurred to me before you even prompted was along the lines of “He wouldn’t do that. I’m sure there are many more differences… He likes you a lot, way more than I do”.
In principle that gets her in “complain about him” mode to contradict me, as in “If he likes me that much why did he go away” and crap like that.
But I’m not convinced I want to bf destroy?
Singles event solo. Same one I went before with my wing. Had a really good night. Probably my best ever solo night actually. Could have done with drinking less (had 3.5 beers) but I was sober enough. Good, comfortable state throughout. Didn’t open a huge number of women, but opened a fair number, and more importantly, hit my main sticking point hard – the vast majority of opens (thinking about it..I think all but one) went into solid conversations with the woman hooking. I posted up at the bar and ordered my drink (chatted a bit with the female bartender… Read more »
@Culum: well done man. Sounds like you fried the circuits of cutie from 3. Woman from 5., where you at the single event with bad logistics? Did you probe the logistics of the woman (you don’t need to go to your place). You could have tried refusing the number (or taking it and set up “Ditch your friend(s) and meet me outside /in place X in Y min”) and getting her to take you to her place maybe (but you would need to know by then more or less where she was living and if she lived alone). I don’t… Read more »
“Just like an online date – there’s really no difference is there?”
By Zeus I think he’s got it…!
[actually there is a difference, it’s easier because you are a surpise package being unwrapped… No vetting, no back and forth a week before hand etc.]
Hahahah. Thanks @Sentient and @IAS. She has been texting this morning and is keen to meet, so the number was solid (although I think I’m still going to encounter strong ASD on the day 2 itself after we went so far last night). @IAS – Re No.5 I did find out she lived very far away (I lived near-ish – not walking distance but 10 minutes in an Uber). But I was more concerned about trying to extract her right in front of her friends and triggering ASD, plus don’t know if she would have abandoned her friends. Also I’d… Read more »
I met a girl today that I had been chatting to for three or four days online. I followed Heartiste’s rules of just giving back 2/3 of what she sent me, and always waited a while to answer the messages after hearing the notification, sometimes several hours. She would be the one to start texting in the morning, not me. At a given point she asked “what are you looking for here?” (they always do that) so I flippantly retorted, “hard sex”, waited a bit, and added “joking”. She seemed to like it. She sent me some photos, and she… Read more »
10 to 15 minute encounter. Was odd. Getting on a shuttle to get in a plane. Woman next to me. A little older than me, early 50s. Slim, good rack. We are pressed pretty close together as the shuttle is getting packed. At one point she exhales loudly… So I ask her if shes going to be ok. She smiles. I shrug like air travel what can you do. The bus starts to lurch off. I ask her about her watch. She says its a cheap watch. I say, good then if you smash it no big deal. I have… Read more »
Oscar!!!!
I wrote you off as a hapless loser… But this here is strong. Action baby!
Keep working. This is a great first outing.
Thanks Sentient. Always glad to disappoint low expectations 🙂
And congrats on your experience as well.
Oscar
“At a given point she asked “what are you looking for here?” (they always do that) so I flippantly retorted, “hard sex”, waited a bit, and added “joking”. She seemed to like it.”
This is good. Good instict. Now the better way is to remember the up down up down emotional pattern… So instead of just saying “joking” you convey joking in a joking manner.
Hard sex. ( wait as you did) And sandwiches… And long walks on the beach… And unicorns…
5 mins encounter. 1 A.M. On subway to meet friend to work on a project. See girl by herself with guitar case. Ask her, “how’d your gig go” it was open mic. Did they boo you off the stage? Throw tomatoes at you or something? Is that why you look all depressed? (BT spike instant smile) Do you perform there often? Says she just moved here. “where?” “Boston”. Oh shit. don’t tell me your a Red Sox fan (push) “I am” “Well it was nice talking to you.” I notice she has a plant beside her. “is that your good… Read more »
fuck yeah, Oscar, now that’s what I’m glad to see!
hard sex lol good one
@Culum: I think with a slightly older woman getting the number and setting something up may be the higher percentage play. YaReally just used to stress nowadays numbers are lower percentage play (with the younger crowd) so I was wondering why you didn’t go straight for it. Still I think you can try the pull and if it doesn’t pan out grab the number instead? I myself have been buffering going for numbers instead of trying instadates / going for the pull so I thought maybe it was something for you to consider. Mini-update on sports girl – bro wasn’t… Read more »
Hey guys, I’ve been reading the yareally archive and it’s sick. I’m guessing this comment section is the new main place to talk about game ? I recognize some of your names from the archive, curious if you guys still keep in touch with yareally/scray/wala and some others I don’t see here.
@jkl welcome to the TRM field report section. Post some FRs! I dunno if this is the new “main place” – Sedfast is excellent although I don’t post there, and there are other places. But this is where YaReally last posted and a lot of us he helped are still here following our own paths. YaReally and Scray have vanished and no one can track them down (lol), but Walawala is around, although maybe not every day. @IAS – I didn’t go for the pull for the reasons I mentioned in my previous post. Perhaps I could have tried it… Read more »
I’m a big fan of the *style* if WestIndianArchie. Unique. I mentioned before his podcasts with Christian McQeen. Very cool. Unpretentious with 15 years of high level intellectual Game in the manosphere.
Read his stuff guys.
He has consumate game.
http://www.westindianarchie.com/2017/01/
Read the linked article from Vanity Fair on Danny Kahaneman and Amos Tversky. It is a cool antifragile article.
Fucked my wife in the morning Tuesday. She went out and golfed in the afternoon. She hit a hole in one. She was elated. I stopped over to the club after work and sat down with her and sat down for drinks with the 50 to 65 year old crowd of women. DHV was had. Delighful time, rather than energy sucking time. My wife had mentioned two days earlier that our friend “Frank” had scored a hole in one this past week and wondered when she would get one. I figured: “well in about 20 years”. Two days later she… Read more »
Culum
“I think so much of Game (as I’m starting to register) is about spotting the small openings and always being open ”
See the window… Jump through the window.
If I am back there, maybe call her IDK. May not be back for months. Would rather have had her in the car tbh. She was so dtf it was hot.
So I was already in my suit from work so I decided to spend the evening doing a circuit of various fancy hotel bars yesterday. I’m getting a better feel for the vibe of these places. Definitely lower volumes, and also looks very weird to blatantly approach set after set at high volume but it’s much easier to get into conversation at the bar (both men and women – also much more likely to meet people who may be professionally useful) and you don’t have to shout etc. Provided you act like you fit in to that environment. I spent… Read more »
“And that is a vibe I really want to cultivate more when talking to women.”
Come on Culum. Say it with me!
At karaoke bar yesterday with Mrs. Eh. Scruffy locals, some college kids, a few fuckable women. A trio of striking lasses walk in and immediately dudes are salivating. Guys with wingmen. One young preppy guy…he’s building up the gumption to hit on them…walks toward them…then away…chats with wingman…tests the approach again and then bails. There’s a duo across the bar intently watching too. After 20″, no one has hit on the young little minxes. Mrs. Eh asks me what’s the Preppy guy’s malfunction. I kiss her get up and as Preppy is doing his touch and go approach I engage… Read more »
Ehhh…. As a guy I know likes to say “Stronger than wolf piss!”… Nice. Culum… Interesting that EVERY man I saw in there was wearing a suit, including me (there must be some opportunities for contrast game in tshirt/jeans) Yes huge opportunity… but you don’t need to go sneakers and t shirts… You just want to stand out from the blue (or god forbid black) suited herd, the uniform of consulting, lawyering, finance, accounting and corporate management. All worker bees at the end of the day. http://www.goldmansachs.com/s/2013annualreport/assets/images/ways/risk-management/section-8-1_wide.jpg BuenaVista has had some good posts elaborating on the “Hedge Fund Gigolo” style,… Read more »
Culum further on style… Simple colors, great fitting and expensive fabrics are your friend. Stuff with good hand and texture set you apart. So instead of cotton khaki chinos, get some with cotton and linen. A blazer in wool and silk, or wool and linen and silk. Sea island and pima cotton shirts. Cashmere sweaters. I also wear a lot of suede shoes. women love suede shoes. But really make sure it all fits. get everything tailored. A few extra dollars spent taking in here and there makes all the difference. and you need to be comfortable in your clothes,… Read more »
Culum “Then a 5-set of late 20s slim blondes came up right next to me at the bar to order before going to a table. All 7s. It was like they were ALL stamped from the same mould – 28-32, tallish, slim, blonde, pretty, very well put together with classy makeup. ” This. Ugly girls generally don’t bother hitti g these places. This kind of 7 is bread and butter when in this environment vs online. They are E girls but not when you get them in the wild. So keep in mind a lot of girls this age aren’t… Read more »
Further HFG link
http://bastiatblogger.blogspot.com/2013/10/hedge-fund-gigolo.html?m=1
@Sentient
So why not pull a girl outside for a walk or to another place ASAP…”I know this place that has great nachos and is really fun!”
Also, do you find it better to hike the sexual tension occasionally to vary the rhythm? Have you ever tried massively hiking the sexual tension?
ASD
“So why not pull a girl outside for a walk or to another place ASAP”
What girl? Don’t understand what you are referring to. Instadating is good.
“Have you ever tried massively hiking the sexual tension?”
That’s just about all I do. Most of my game is ONS stuff with massive attraction build up. ??
http://kazenosenlitu.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2011/12/09/love_again2_2.jpg
Style primer…
First be comfortable in what you have on, if your clothing is wearing you, you are doing it wrong.
Then keep this order in mind Color/Pattern > Fit > Quality…
Get the color and pattern right, for most of you the color is blue, gray or black and the pattern is solid – no pattern. [con’t.]
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/01/08/distinguished-gentleman-game/#comment-833036
further style commentary
http://foolsintownareonourside.blogspot.com/2014/02/euro-males.html
The Universal Uniform of Über-Euro Males
How to Perfect the Tanned, Sockless, White Shirt, Cashmere Sweater Look of This Billionaire Subclass
By TINA GAUDOIN
“Over the years Ford has witnessed a transformation in the way people dress, noting women no longer wear “day clothes” anymore, especially in Los Angeles where ladies favour casual attire like yoga pants and T-shirts.” ““As I said, it’s about producing those very potent items,” he added. “That amazing jacket, the amazing pair of shoes, those things that you’re going have in your closet 20 years later, you’ll pull it out and put it on again over a T-shirt and jeans and it’s going to look amazing. And then evening, beautifully constructed eveningwear or leather.” https://www.sundayworld.com/style/fashion/tom-ford-upset-women-no-longer-put-effort-into-daywear I have one bespoke… Read more »
Also wear a lot of polo shirts that fit well. sans sportcoat by day
With by night.
http://www.bondsuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Thunderball-Shrublands-Polo.jpg
old skool.
@Sentient: maybe I’m just a cheapskate, but unlike Culum I pretty much don’t have suits, and I have a strong dislike for spending money just for a chance to “play” (night clubs included, I make some effort to attend when there are free entrance events and going a bit earlier etc.). I do have Polo shirts, I also wear denim jackets as if it was still the 80s… But then again I’m not hanging out at the fancy hotel bars like you guys. How much am I hindering myself? Rollo says he got more girls when he was dirt poor… Read more »
Poor doesn’t mean you can’t have style. Can’t get clothes to fit.
I’ve had dozens of bespoke suits and jackets. Most of my stuff now i get on ebay for pennies. And have a great tailot who can recut anything.
So money isn’t the issue. And the comments to Culum were about how to use CONTRAST in a place where most guys will be uniformed up in suits.
I’d say go hit up a nice hotel lounge. Get a soda and see what they are like. Then you can see if tou are missing anything.
Fair enough. I guess they make “mocktails” without booze, but I should just get a some natural fruit juice instead.
Hahaha – I only have a minute, but while I was wearing a regular suit yesterday, the day I met the HB8, I was wearing:
tailored dark grey/black jacket – check
tailored shirt – check
really nice slim fit grey jeans – check
I do need to get better shoes or boots though…
Not a suit guy myself. My going out attire is typically dress shirt/ocbd/patterned short sleeved button up all with 3 buttons undone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yni3Wb5HKk ), chinos/dark washed jeans, loafer/bucks. Think Alain Delon in Plein Soleil (great movie btw):
http://classiq.me/style-in-film-plein-soleil
Culum
You gigolo… 💀
Ebay is your friend for shoes too… Used shoes? Yup. Easy to take to the cobbler and have them freshened up. Also bought a few only worn once or twice and some new in box.
Edward Greene and Crocket &Jones are two well made brands not super crazy. I prefer English shoes, though there are a few coming out of Spain that are good too.
I’m more partial to plaid polyester slacks with striped long sleeve shirts buttoned all the way to the top. And nothing beats a white belt and white patent leather loafers. Sometimes I’ll top the ensemble off with a coffee colored herringbone sport coat with large patches on the sleeve.
Man, chicks just can’t stop staring.
Blax
What no hat?
@Culum
“I do need to get better shoes or boots though…”
http://putthison.com/post/43010205853/finding-affordable-shoes-shoes-may-or-may-not-be
@ Sentient
But of course. A vinyl ‘ bucket ‘ style hat for formal circumstances, a plaid wool kangol, tastefully worn backwards for a more casual look.
“Also wear a lot of polo shirts that fit well. sans sportcoat by day, with at night.”
That’s my most mentally comfortable look. I’m too skinny for much else. It’s not expensive and the little investment goes a long way in getting noticed, respected. Solid game confirms first impressions.
Oh, occasionally I’ll go full cowboy. James Colburn in Magnificent 7.
This worked well in 1960.
Wait…1860.
Blax You can add Sebastian Pritchard (author of hedge fund figolo blog) to your warrior scholar collection Sebastian Pritchard is a graduate of Oxford University and the Navy’s Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Class 195. In 2003, he co-founded BCM, a boutique private investment firm that uses a proprietary algorithm to exploit price trends in the major commodity and financial futures markets (and achieved an 80% return during the 2008 crisis). Bastiat Blogger is a clearinghouse for thoughts on hedge funds, global macro, free markets, decision theory, mixed-martial arts (Seb trains MMA, BJJ, and Muay Thai with American Top Team and… Read more »
I’m sittimg in yhe outdoor section of my bar, smoking cigars, drinking Wild Turkey and holding court with my son and son in law. Not sure want promoted it but when the boys brake ranks this under 30 HB8 with a gaggle of strap hangars leans over and says your right fuck feminism
Now some fancy pants dudes would start talking aboutiois and sets and want not. I am going to do finish my cigar and go fuck this bitch in my office
Hi, to everyone here and big thanks for your contributions here. I need advice on how to manage girls who want exclusivity in multiple plates environment. I give some info bellow about my situation and challenges I encounter My background: divorced recently, two kids, regular AFC dude. After divorce focus is on me (workout…), been dating, getting notches, banging several girls regularly in the same period. Never discussed any relationship stuff with them, always being implicit that we are just fuck buddies and spend some quality time together. When I felt some of them wanted more, getting the feelz, I… Read more »
@m4430: I thought I just posted but it either went to moderation due to the link or I messed up the post. Look up blackdragon’s blog. He has more info on the kind of situation you want (or don’t want but are inadvertently in). Most women will catch feelings like that. If you have a primary (your “perfect” in this case) it seems it is a bad idea to do relationship stuff with your secondaries. She was already having a hard time with you having sex with the others. And then you get home and rub her nose in it… Read more »
@m4430 # The way I see it, mainly… option 1: Disqualify yourself as much as possible for the boyfriend material type. Fuckboi vibes maxxing. Frame yourself as the guy she enjoys while she’s looking for something serious with another guy. option 2: you’re not ready YET, but you will be, MAYBE. This is a very good way to do it: https://rivsdiary.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/baby-girl-game-4/ For option 2, I would highly suggest RSDJuliens video “Drama.” It’s from the epiphany series in his PIMP product. Look for it at piratebay or idope. If you can’t find it, I could upload it somewhere but it’ll take… Read more »
@m4430 – just a quick one, I’ll come back later with more. All good advice here so far. Just to – add – find YaReally’s advice on this from the archive. It’s only a few posts here and there, but good stuff. Generally speaking (depending on the age of the girl, your suitability as an LTR and other factors), no FWB lasts forever. I think YaReally said typically 6 months. If she is of an age where she wants an LTR and you are suitable LTR material (in her eyes), you WILL get the ultimatum on exclusivity from her. You… Read more »
“no FWB lasts forever. I think YaReally said typically 6 months. ”
Yet Sgt. Ton is living with two women and more on the side. Care to expound Ton?
@Sentient
“Yet Sgt. Ton is living with two women and more on the side. Care to expound Ton?”
If he lives with them are they fwb?
He can explain.
From my perspective the issue is of exclusivity not co habitation. And how one gets to that place.
I think the Blackdragon and Yareally stuff fall short of whatbis possible in chasing the most probable outcomes.
The firmware is the same – AWALT – after all.
@Sentient & @J – thanks for the clothing stuff. That Bastiat blogger site is fascinating (not just the fashion stuff). I’m going to read more about it but I think I’m part-way there already (I either wear suits, or a sort of quasi-HFG look, or sometimes – like tonight when I’m going to a kiddy nightclub – generic but well fitting jeans/tshirt – could do with something to jazz that up – I don’t wear watches or that would be an obvious choice) . Most importantly I need some better shoes, and I need to think about my belt a… Read more »
@Culum
“generic but well fitting jeans/tshirt – could do with something to jazz that up”
Get a bracelet. I like the selection from the Icon Brand here:
http://us.asos.com/men/jewelry/bracelets/cat/?cid=13835
I fail a lot.
Creating the Legend of Ton means more the the failures