Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Morpheus
2 years ago

Aarghhhhh, first should be last, I’m not sure why sometimes it adds them out of order

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Morpheus What do Christmas and V Day have in common? Beta provisioning days… And lonely girls. Lonely. Not horny. Check out Yareally on text game. You STILL need to learn MM and the concepts and the framework and then a load of TRM red pills on top… But this Will give you a jumpstart at least and we can avoid going over a by ch of boring road to nowhere texts in the meantime. https://newlyaloof.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/why-yareally-need-to-learn-game/ My txt game is wicked-tight. When other guys send a lot of txts it’s just gay shit that isn’t heading anywhere. It’s like how someone… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

This is the guy, Mikey at skilledseducers whoisfield@yahoo.com

Palma you should get it and monetize it again… Sell your book along side… Sell a copy to Morpheus!

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Morpheus

And read these. If you are online dating 35 and older girls you are hitting tgis demo hard… It’s structural.

https://therationalmale.com/2012/12/19/the-epiphany-phase/

https://therationalmale.com/2017/03/15/the-epiphany-phase-revisited/

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Palma

The Yareally Archive. Put it back on a server. Sell ads to pua types etc. It gets guge search hits I’m sure.

disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
2 years ago

Somehow or other WordPress isn’t working properly and I can’t expand on the read more.

Yeah expand is hosed for me too

disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
2 years ago

.my Bumble account is verified with my FB account
Bumble also has a ‘login with email’ option. I don’t use FB to verify OLD accounts

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

Sentient, Morpheus

The internet archive, Wayback Machine saved YaReally’s archive and there is a section of text game for Morpheus here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150508233609/http://yareallyarchive.com/

And for shits and giggles, here is a post WIA made of a cut and paste of YaReally’s last stand on TRM:

http://www.westindianarchie.com/yareallys-last-stand/

Poor guy, he was good, he just wasn’t that balanced. And then took his ball and went home. Just couldn’t stand being in the same room with old married guys…That one fact didn’t figure. It conflicted with his future raising of offspring.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Palma

I suspect because most people know the archive is down there is little activity now. I bet once it got around that it was back up traffic would increase.

The problem with the wayback version is you can’t navigate and search easily.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Monetize via affiliate links to various products. First others than you can cut in your own…

Yareally Text Game Manual etc.

Then if traffic builds sell ads to companies lookimg for your demo… Guys lookimg for girls…

See examples of how to monetize web traffic herehttps://www.smartpassiveincome.com/

This guy is legit.

j
j
2 years ago

https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/yareally-archive.21598/

Steps:
1) Click link and download
2) Double click “index.html”
3) Double click “Yareally Archive”
4) Read

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Posting this thought here from Palma’s comment on the other thread.

Any takers for this kind of challenge?

Technology has allowed women to get virtual free attention from thirsty orbiters.

The time is right to flip that script. If I did online… And was locked down…

Hmmmmmm.

I’d be htting up girls and working on my game now, with the goal of having them do real time strip shows and peep shows. For shits and giggles.

What does one have to lose? Make that 🍋 lemonade 🍋 add a nice splash of vodka 🍹

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
2 years ago

Sentient – thank you.

“Show the backbone” is a useful concept to keep in (front of) mind.

Off to Do Some Work. Some news expected in the next few days about the wife’s new job. If it doesn’t actually materialize, I’ll be relieved on the one hand but also disappointed at losing a key opportunity to show some backbone…

CS
CS
2 years ago

Okay so I went to Do The Work and it happened faster than I thought. Wife had a tentative job offer for this job today (they want her, but the role specifics and salary not yet discussed). So we had a difficult conversation after that and another massive blow up. In some ways closest we’ve had to a Main Event – although not quite there if I understand the concept properly. She did cry and get upset, but weirdly much less so than the previous conversation where she had a proper meltdown. The conversation was mostly civil but the emotional… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

I just re-read what I posted. Feels like I’m missing something fundamental that’s not about which precise position or solution I should choose. Should I just have said (and stuck to): “No, no job here. We are going home this summer”? And soaked up the emotional storm that followed and made it happen? But the thing is – I don’t really want to. I want (for myself) to stay here for a while longer for all the reasons in my post above, and my wife’s job is the only way to do that – I just don’t want to stay… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 years ago

@CS Damn, man… Is that your executive summary? Looks like you need to hear about this new cool word Clarity from BlackDragon: Choose one path and come back with your elevator pitch. Then, and only then, answer this: it is genuinely a dream job for her that she has lucked into and she won’t get an opportunity like this again Is it a dream job that every woman REALLY wants? If not… then what else? And why? I could get lucky and salary/job spec discussions could break down especially in this economic climate Smh… Who’s frame is this in? Who’s… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

Negotiation isn’t leading. Anywhere, any forum.

Is it a dream job that every woman REALLY wants?
If not… then what else?
And why?

Did you even think about her as a woman during any of this? About Game at all?

You don’t have the bank built up to just issue commands but you don’t have to negotiate it out. (See what a bad spot it put you in?). For the time being Think about how you can ise game to bring her around.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Hint

change her mood not her mind

And The 16 Commandments especially 9.

You thought you would win an emotional argument with logic… That’s bringing a knife to a gun fight.

IRL
IRL
2 years ago

@Palma
Black dragon got a lot of things right… buuuut..

Oh that was just a funny interlude for my own amusement (@disgruntled’s comment reminded me of BD). I had a look at where BD is now. Still rehashing old concepts to fit the narrative and keep upselling… this time in the cv context. He’ll milk it while it lasts and then move on.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago
Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

Sentient points to a good vid, and in that vid is this Beta trap: “Here is my resume! And this resume shows why you should like me and date me!” Yes, this. Modern girls do this too. In the last 4 years or so I’ve had girls in heir 20’s, 30’s and one in her 40’s[1] qualifying to me with their resume, one even laid out a business plan she had. The body language and subcoms was “Here’s why you should like me, and…’. First time it happened I was taken by surprise and just listened & nodded, but it’s… Read more »

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

@CS Now who is LARPing. You have real world problems that need to be figured into. You are a smart guy and you need to figure your unique situation out. That is why my buddies and I came to distance ourselves from what is going on here. At the end of the day, forum advice is not perfect advice for you. CS: “Whatever decision is reached, I need to establish control and leadership in the marriage – the actual decision or compromise (even if it isn’t exactly what I wanted) is less important than establishing my leadership.” Sentient: “Negotiation isn’t… Read more »

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

And CS… Despite what I said, what I said is not adversarial to you keeping and holding Frame. You are conflicted. My point is that you resolve your conflicts in your own way. You are not dumb. So don’t always listen to quick tips from column commentariat. Or someone else’s style or particular situation. Keep doing you. Better. Which is not the same as just-be-yourself. You always have the opportunity to be better and better and do things better. Do that. You have it half worked out in your head. And the other half is what comes down the pike.… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
2 years ago

Funny, I haven’t even offered advice. My attempt got eaten days ago. ” compromise ” and ” negotiation ” are loaded terms meaning different things to different people at different times. Neither is capitulation and if approached incorrectly, they will be interpreted that way by all parties involved. It’s a matter of frame intertwined with personality. Being anti-game, or not really understanding how it works outside of the pua definition won’t help. Men aren’t leaves blowing in the wind, lest they get blown into a sewer. Sentient is 100% correct when he asks ” have you considered…as a woman “.… Read more »

wahoo Mcdaniels
2 years ago

I had one woman Qualify herself as single, executive, own home at base of mt Evans and supports her daughter. She was in a bikini and not half bad shaped for an older woman. I picked up on an overbearing side of her personality and asked her if she had a humming bird feeder. She answered no and that said to me she doesn’t love the critters or know how to relax. Not my type for sure,not even to bang! So next I qualified to her how my grandaughter preferred to hang with me as the women folk were to… Read more »

wahoo Mcdaniels
2 years ago

Heh, the executive qualifier is no different than the young ones with their crazy qualifications. They have told me “I’m a single mother”, “I’m studying to be a motorcycle mechanic”, “I’m a combat veteran” and even “I’m a fighter and a pervert”. None of them qualify with anything close to feminine qualities.

CS
CS
2 years ago

Thank you guys (and Blax for repeating/extending the post that vanished). Changed my perspective as usual. You guys are right of course. I didn’t have (and don’t have) enough hand to give orders. That’s essentially what I did in the first conversation a few days ago by saying “I don’t see how this can work” and it led to the warp speed meltdown. Yesterday I didn’t do the command thing, but I essentially approached it as a negotiation and made some reasonable proposals – and, well, we see what that resulted in. At least I held the line and didn’t… Read more »

disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
2 years ago

“Read More…” issue – I noticed I get the expansion if I click repeatedly on the link (like 5 or 10 fast clicks). There might be a race-condiftion in the javascript code.

YMMV

Blaximus
Blaximus
2 years ago

Sjf

I have a favor to ask.

If you can still reach scribbler, could you touch base with him to make sure he’s alright in all of this pandemic mess?

I have a work related email from years ago, and I’m not sure he even used it anymore.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

SJF Rails against forum advice… Gives advice. Lol. CS Can’t copy pasta on phone so some brief points… Showing backbone good. How you do it is important. MPoO, Frame and Game. Especially Game. You’ve not spent the time to game your wife. This is tough ground to reclaim but doable. You need to bring all the weapons though. And how about leading via a vision? Flip it around, if [sex symbol did jour] told her to bag the job and join him in Bollywood… What is she going to do? All the same game principles apply in your situation… Bounce… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

Oh another thing… So consider her putting on make up not as a “tit for tat” so she gets what she wants… But a subconscious reaction to your displaying some backbone…

What does kfg say? Poke her with the pointy stick of no?

Consider this action/response dynamic before you head back to the negotiations…

It just might be… Might be that this evobiopsych stuff is reall amd works on your special snowflake…

strongest frame wins – Yareally

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

@Sentient I don’t disagree with your last two comments. I think CS has his options and his decisions spelled out with his own logic in regards to his job. I think he has to divorce the two issues–figuring out logistics of his and his wife’s job situation over the next three years and his attempts at dominance Game and Dread. He might not be good enough at the latter at this time. I think if he overplays his dominance hand, he could well shoot himself in the foot or have things blow up in his face in regards to job/finances.… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
2 years ago

@SJF and Blax et al – All good here. I’ve become resilien due to my red pill journey. If we don’t completely shit the bed (still a distinct possibility), I’m primed to make a mint off of this. A return to anything near the status quo is a 7 to low 8 figure event for me. Heheheh. Then it’s on to the boat and getting the fuck out of this shithole of a nation and away from the many assholes who populate it. There is a way to win the game the way the world is today. Leaving the past… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
2 years ago

Glad to hear you’re okay Scrib.

CS
CS
2 years ago

Sentient – thank you. Just starting the process. More later (battery about to die) but I made a start. Today I was trying to kind of “unify” on a positive vision and I told her I wanted her to enjoy this job and do this job and find fulfillment and I liked seeing her excited about this job (all 100% true), but I just had concerns about our connection to Home Town. Then I kind of waxed lyrical about Home Town (building the vision of the yacht etc) about all the memories there and our kids were born there and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

Then she said something like “to be honest..part of the reason Iw ant to do this job is..

Stripped to the core, it’s basically her Plan B. A resource monkey branch. Monkey holds two branches before swinging…

Which is why negotiating isn’t a good posture. would Blax negotiate with his wife if she was posturing for more time with a dude? No. I view this in the same lens… stripped to the core.

Travelin Man
Travelin Man
2 years ago

Long time creeper first time poster… I’ve been following this thread for the last 2.5 ish year. My red pill discovery started about 3 years ago. I started out in h.s. as the rebel “bad kid” who was attractive, paired with a fuct up C.H. , tall walls, and a pretty high social intellect brought females of all ages to me… I just reacted by fucking, not truly understanding the nuts and bolts. Finally at age 21, I let a bitch in, got married, turned bp asf.. after a few years realized I wasn’t destined for a life of control.… Read more »

Travellin Man
Travellin Man
2 years ago

@ Morpheus – maybe smoking a joint would help..?

@ CS hope you the best bro.
Been really cool watching your journey.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Travelin man

I guess I need direction..?

Def DO NOT do “gay shit”… 😁

Sounfs like you need to resolve your tendency to go BP when in a relationship. There’s part of you that feels “good” probably when you do this. Examine.

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

“@ Morpheus – maybe smoking a joint would help..?” Help with what? Dropping out for a couple hours? Coping? Dragging out the grief stages? Rich Cooper’s brilliant line: If we could wave a magic wand for you…What would make everything right for you. With the emphasis on what can you do to make your life better, on springboard to be excellent. Or more excellent. Go towards that. That actually is a question. What can you do. What are you going to do. To not repeat your mistakes. And be the best you can be? Sex is a by-product of girls… Read more »

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

@PalmaSailor

You are up awful early.

Can you give us a Situation Report on what is going on around you socially? And how the social group of 9 of you that you know got through the infection?

What are you doing this morning, there?

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

PalmaSailor
Started reading Atlas Shrugged,

Meh. Try your fellow countryman Daniel Defoe. Either “Robinson Crusoe” or “Journal of the plague year”. Sam Pepys diary could be a good companion.

Maybe we should all stream Bergman’s 1950’s flick “The Seventh Seal”?

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

I know you are definitely not a reader of books Palma. Atlas Shrugged is a cruel sentence for you. X1000. It goes on for fucking forever. And then you get to Galt’s speech. And it’s like 85 pages. God forbid. But you might want to get through it because it would put your mind back to the same place it ever was. X1000. In other words it will reinforce the same world view you ever had. I know you, your book of your notes on going through your divorce and you son problems. And your business life. Give Atlas Shrugged… Read more »

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

Meh. Try your fellow countryman Daniel Defoe. Either “Robinson Crusoe” or “Journal of the plague year”. Sam Pepys diary could be a good companion. Maybe we should all stream Bergman’s 1950’s flick “The Seventh Seal”? Yeah Just go with the simple easy metaphors. Water the experience down. Atlas Shrugged always went for the jugular of the issue at hand. And The Fountainhead was an easier read. Ayn Rand was a girl. As such she had emotional limitations. Although she wrote like a man. An INTJ man as it was. But with limitations. All her books were Red Pill Man writing.… Read more »

Travelin Man
Travelin Man
2 years ago

@Palma It was at her Christmas party in a public venue when I was randomly approached by 2 dudes. One being pretty swole. I let my “reformed, enlightened self” out the cage for play time. (Definitely smelled like a setup) But she quickly learned I wasn’t playin about my past “transgressions”. The “real problem” was her calling it a huge embarrasment… What will ppl say blah blah b.s. I lost all frame at this point and went full beta bitch, after county, trying to negotiate my way back in. So yes I should have responded with I want my ribeye… Read more »

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

Ok, then Palma. You know the story and don’t need the whole dramadization. And I like your forward practicality. No lie Might then just read Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged And call it a day. Reading the book is intermimable. But me and a buddy of mine got spurred to launch ourselves 40 years ago. A real kick in the ass. You might be jaded now, we weren’t then. But then again, we have no use for Ayn Rand now days, because, guess what? We are jaded with government. Go figure. Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged was a phase. A good one. But it… Read more »

Travelin Man
Travelin Man
2 years ago


I’ve gleaned wisdom from your words in the past….
but in no way, shape, or form am I abdicating a removal of ones cognitive abilities so they can cope with life.
My suggestion @morpheous was quite the opposite.
Sometimes clearing ones head through a “meditation” of sorts to glean self awareness can be beneficial.
Help slow it all down and hear teaching wisdom for what it actually is…

CS
CS
2 years ago

@Travelin Man – welcome, it looks like you’ve hard some sharp RP experiences and found this place to understand them and process them early enough to make a huge difference to your life. @All – I’m retraining myself to think in emotional terms and act in emotional terms at home. Slow, but happening. Today I was projecting the [Home City] vision again at dinner and got my son quite excited about all the stuff we would be doing when we got home (in front of my wife, who surprisingly didn’t object or start talking about the benefits of current city… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS she started talking about “this guy she met, who works in a really interesting company and it would be great if I could get a job there” Whoa whoa whoa… Slow down hoss… You skipped this part of the story before. This a huge red flag. Remember a few posts up when I said “monkey branching”? Well this may not just be for the job and security. Now this is probably still all subconscious to her… BUT Put your RP glasses and cape back on amd review ALL the parameters and how this just burbled up… To where now… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

CS

I should really have got on this way way earlier before her vision of staying her longer solidified and she started talking about “this guy she met, who works in a really interesting company and it would be great if I could get a job there”, to say nothing of when they started to talk formally.

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What Sentient said. How long has this been going on?

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Travelin Man The “real problem” was her calling it a huge embarrasment… What will ppl say blah blah b.s. I lost all frame at this point and went full beta bitch, after county, trying to negotiate my way back in. So yes I should have responded with I want my ribeye m.r. lol. Let’s just be clear going forward. The real problem was your reaction to her. Full stop. She is almost always going to react like this, and get this – EVEN IF she likes that you beat up two guys… Because cats are not dogs. She – and… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 years ago

@AR
How long has this been going on?

Haven’t we been through this ‘red flag’ with Marquis before? A year ago?

@CS
Go through the archive man and start spotting the patterns. You can’t improve what you can’t see.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

IRL
Haven’t we been through this ‘red flag’ with Marquis before? A year ago?

Probably. It’s worth highlighting for any lurker or any man who pops in with no background, though.

CS
CS
2 years ago

Thanks guys. I hadn’t even considered that angle. Mainly because I just can’t bring myself to see this guy as a threat. Sure, I have a ways to go in my journey, but he puts the “b” in “beta”. Literally ticks every box (okay I get that the “security” aspect of beta provisioning is more important in a global crisis so the value of beta goes up compared to more stable times, but still). And IRL is right, we discussed something similar about 1-2 years ago, back when I was seeing the first big jumps in improvement in “marriage quality”… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

@CS: betas can still be a “threat”. Here are a few highlights. By your own admission, his wife is hotter, so he has pre-selection over you (so try to get some dread going on). “By this time my wife was in full on fantasy mode (…)” – beta or not, that is good game on his part, even if unintentional. What you are missing, regardless of whether that particular guy is a specific threat – he does seem to have contributed to instigating her plans to stay in that city, which is now clearly a serious threat to your plans… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

Thanks IAS. Yes, I think you’re right – the “unhaappy” is in full force flowing. I can’t fix that in a week or two – it’s a combination of things like improving myself (especially the physical side – I don’t mean getting ripped, I mean more that it gets to her – noticeably – when I get injured in training and limp around looking weak for a few days or couple of weeks and can’t pick up the kids or take out the trash in that time etc – she doesn’t get that injuries are part of training and at… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

I’ll circle back but for now

What am I missing in this picture? I don’t see this guy as any kind of threat

This has you covered.

Also… Are you familiar with “IDK… It just happened“?

CS
CS
2 years ago

@Sentient – lol. I’ve benefited from “It just happened” too many times to be unfamiliar with it. I can certainly see the risk – even if he’s beta, late one night in the office, glass of wine, etc. I guess my confusion is what to do now. Because as far as I can see I have two options (plus the medium to long term “change her mood not mind with a new vision” option which is optimal but not fast enough): give the ultimatum and lay down the law about going home – but I don’t have enough banked authority… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

well I don’t want to rush past the year or more of warning signs you have neglected… But will need to circle back due to time…

What am I missing? Is there some other way to cut the Gordian knot?

This is from the guy who said he was about ready to lead bootcamps?

What is the game solution here?

Let’s see… let’s see… An AMOG has entered your set and taken attraction away from your target to him… hmmmmmm? What to do?

Can you put together some thoughts? I’d like to sign up for your bootcamp.

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 years ago

@the pick up artist formerly known as Culum Struan looks like you still have some RP blind spots… how’s that FI treatin’ ya?…lol =AWALT… even (especially) wives…lol Mainly because I just can’t bring myself to see this guy as a threat. you should… bc this is a classic branch swing in motion… and remember it’s all based on your wife’s hindbrain’s algos… like @IAS notes, this guy has pre-selection/etc… AND he is situationally alpha… doesn’t matter if he calls his wife ‘the boss’ or not… Then some time later, they’ve had some detailed unofficial meetings (sometimes the two of them,… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

Sentient, okay let’s see. Analysis below [Warning Long Post Ahead with AMOG analysis] As another example of “taking the glasses off at home”, I hadn’t really thought of him in an AMOG context till now (although I still don’t see how treating him like an AMOG will help me in the short term of the next 2 weeks which is my main confusion at this point). But that said, let’s see. I could go back and find the old YaReally advice and phrases and lines like “nice shirt bro, I had one like it in high school” (lol) but I’ve… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

@HABD – thank you. Sobering, but thank you. I’m going to sleep on this and think about it but just to answer the immediate question re sex – BJ yes, ride me, no. I even have to dodge when one of the kids runs towards me for a hug – the weight/impact will be too much. I’ve had similar injuries several times in the last year. Usually recovered in 7-10 days, but this one is taking longer (because I had two in quick succession – second one before I fully recovered from first so more serious) – but I should… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

@HABD – PS – Okay, I am imagining you and Sentient and IAS actually laughing out loud when you read this but I just remembered – when she came back tipsy from the bar with both husband and wife today (they came to pick up their kids – I was watching their kids and mine while they had their biz meeting), we all chatted briefly and it turned out Other Guy was going on an actual business trip tomorrow and my wife said “Yeah I was saying at the bar..if I start this job, I should really go with him… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 years ago

@the pickup artist formerly known as Culum Struan @HABD – thank you. Sobering, but thank you. I’m going to sleep on this and think about it but just to answer the immediate question re sex – BJ yes, ride me, no. I even have to dodge when one of the kids runs towards me for a hug – the weight/impact will be too much. I’ve had similar injuries several times in the last year. Usually recovered in 7-10 days, but this one is taking longer (because I had two in quick succession – second one before I fully recovered from… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
2 years ago

@the pickup artist formerly known as Culum Struan @HABD – PS – Okay, I am imagining you and Sentient and IAS actually laughing out loud when you read this but I just remembered – when she came back tipsy from the bar with both husband and wife today (they came to pick up their kids – I was watching their kids and mine while they had their biz meeting), we all chatted briefly and it turned out Other Guy was going on an actual business trip tomorrow and my wife said “Yeah I was saying at the bar..if I start… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS see if you think I’m at least on the right track in terms of strategy. No you aren’t. It is now not about The Job. It’s gone way more primal. I haven’t addressed dealing with Other Guy directly because I think that is actually suboptimal and not necessary to engage him Partly true, because there is another way in this situation but ya still will have to address him… In this case, the AMOG came into your set with a girl in tow. A hotter girl right? [sidenote – looked back at your post on Page 1 (!) of… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

when she got home from having a drink (with that guy and his wife as it happens – and I know they were there – I walked past the bar on an errand) and discussing work stuff, she started (because she was a bit tipsy) talking about how we haven’t had sex in a while and she was wondering if I was still interested in having sex (way from covert message to overt messaging)

Ya know what a “fireman” is? He is the guy who puts out the fire…

Take note.

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

also, ‘watching their kids’ = much lower status than the other dude (or even the girls)… never do this again… not kidding… as well as being tacit approval to your wife’s hindbrain for future cheating…

Bold for emphasis… smh

this is why I’m really against women working… Always shit like this going on.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

CS earlier today, when she got home from having a drink (with that guy and his wife as it happens – Consider the possibility that your wife is attracted to both of them. Or that Mister No Threat Beta has better Game than you think, and is angling for a 3-some. Think that’s impossible? Totally impossible? CS, have you ever found a married woman displaying IOI’s towards you in your Culem mode? Ever? duh. A man at Dalrock’s once recounted his experience with his first wife; the woman took forever to get into bed and always had an excuse for… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

@CS: I’m not laughing and things are worse than you have originally let on – you are trickle truth-ing us here! Think about that. The double alias thing and now this trickle is likely some ego protection mechanism. I can easily tell you from first hand experience that it sucked to “confess” here about some relatively obvious Game fails I had with my (ex-)wife, but I really had trouble seeing it clearly in my own situation and it was so much easier to see the same things happening on someone else description. It is best not to be ashamed of… Read more »

IAS
IAS
2 years ago

@CS: You babysitting for the important business people is really awful. Sentient and HABD already said it but really grasp at the magnitude of the Game fail here. Think about why is the guy’s wife in these business meetings (HABD says threesome, which is hilarious, and could be true – but to be fair he always says threesome 😉 ). The guy is there in a classic Mystery situation with 2 women giving him attention… That by itself may be getting him IOIs from additional women in the setting etc. Note that I’m not suggesting having the guy’s hotter wife… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Solid, solid posts IAS

kfg
kfg
2 years ago

@Le Marquis de CS: “when she came back tipsy from the bar with both husband and wife today . . . I was watching their kids and mine while they had their biz meeting”

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude.

disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
2 years ago

In the meantime tinderellas have “run out of dick”

I mostly noticed they’re just too chickenshit to actually meet up

CS
CS
2 years ago

Thanks guys, harsh but I needed to hear that (especially from IAS). I don’t think my wife is actually cheating (yet), but I have to start taking the possibility very seriously and internalising AWALT (still hard – I get it intellectually but not deep down, when I look at her) and acting on that basis. Basically whether or not she is ACTUALLY cheating, the path she’s on is leading (rapidly) to a branch swing one way or another and I need to stop that. As IAS said, if not this guy then the next. @IAS: not trickle truthing man. Literally… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

Oh also to add – I don’t want to read too much into this, but she changed the passcode on her phone in the last couple of weeks – said the kids knew the old one and were messing with her phone too much and changing settings (so now I don’t know it either). I only started locking my own phone in the last year – before that it was always unlocked. And even now the kids know my passcode (although she doesn’t). But the kids know it is death to mess with my phone and they generally don’t.

kfg
kfg
2 years ago

“RIP Sir Stirling Moss”

Yeeeeeeeah. Not that I haven’t been aware that that news could be coming at any time for a while now.
Sir John isn’t so Young anymore either.
Jezum crow, I must be old, I remember when he was the new generation of drivers.
When I were a wee lad Caracciola was still alive and kicking. I was born closer to the days of the Silver Arrows than a kid who is 18 now was to Stewart’s last championship.

[Insert “OK, Boomer” here]

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS

Lots of good stuff man. You got this. Lots of moves left here.

Worthy of a long response back but maybe tomorrow.

However…

I don’t want to read too much into this, but she changed the passcode on her phone in the last couple of weeks

Now just why don’t you want to read more into this? Hmmmm?

Hit it HABD!!$

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

CS Now these days, she often comments about how I’m no longer that fit or in such good shape and a small paunch is visible without my shirt etc. IMO that’s Catonese for “you were HOT, I WANT you to be HOT again just for meeee!” I pointed out that I could easily return to that level of fitness (once I recover from my injury) by increasing training intensity again but then she needs to do 100% of family stuff since all I will be capable of doing is training, eating and sleeping (and maybe doing a little bit of… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

CS
Oh also to add – I don’t want to read too much into this, but she changed the passcode on her phone in the last couple of weeks

“Don’t want to read too much into this”
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IRL
IRL
2 years ago

I been needin a switch up honestly Tell him i don’t know but these days it seems My mans gettin a lil too comfortable He don’t put in the work like he did before And he works all day And when he comes on home He takes off his shoes And he smokes his bowl And he goes to sleep And he’s gone by morn’ With a kiss in the cheek But I’m longing for more But when I’m chillen with you I just feel so alive And you give me this spark I haven’t felt in a while But… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 years ago

@CS
I’ve been reacting to her far too much. She needs to start reacting to me a lot more. The nature of it is actually less important – even if her reaction is bad, she needs to be responding to me, not me to her.

Sooooo…. back to basics? Time play The Game at home in HD?

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago
Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

CS Basically whether or not she is ACTUALLY cheating, the path she’s on is leading (rapidly) to a branch swing one way or another and I need to stop that. Hypergamy is a background process that needs stimulus, like the Patellar Reflex. Each woman, and even the same woman but different life stages/external factors has her own “reflex” point. Now most of this is on a subconscious “hindbrain” level. She isn’t aware exactly what is going on. For a while. She just finds herself “doing” some different things. Maybe a glass of wine after work, or sits at a park… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

Thanks Sentient I needed that perspective (and everyone else too – okay guys I take the point about how silly I sounded on the phone code thing). Key takeaways -it’s not just talking about home, it’s giving her Tasks. That’s so obvious but didn’t occur to me (actually, not just about Home – I should just give her Tasks and keep her occupied, so she has less time and focus for his tasks – like the business plan nonsense etc). -Lead men and women will follow in Big Boss Dinner Party to come (again, of course I know this, but… Read more »

disgruntledearthling
disgruntledearthling
2 years ago

she starts giggling and kisses me back. This isn’t really a big deal

This is a big deal! Patterns like this need to be replayed several times a day automatically, not when you just think of them. They continually re-enforce the dgaf attitude.

Of course, always joking about being an “ex-wife” is a hot potato – other teasing is needed. An a little mix of comfort for when she complains about the dgaf attitude.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

@kfg

So not “Old and in the way” but more like “Old, fat and in the grey”?

I’m waiting for the Trigglypuffs to find out that they are their own source of co-morbidity. The rationalizations should be epic.

CS
CS
2 years ago

Guys, just to confirm: I should read something into the exchange below right? Some kind of “being hit up by women looking for security during the corona crisis” situation? I just received an email from one of my wife’s friends (back in Home City). NOT copied to wife, only to me. Very friendly and chatty, along the lines of “Hey [CS]..what’s up? Haven’t heard back from [My Wife] to my last message a while ago- how are you and the family coping with the lockdown and corona? We live in crazy times..” I replied with a friendly email – “We’re… Read more »

CS
CS
2 years ago

Thanks Palma. I replied just out of basic courtesy – she’s not a bad person and I have no reason to blank her (and I like her son – I haven’t seen him in a couple of years now but he’s very obviously starved of any kind of male influence and responds to me – he’s a nice kid who is a bit “sensitive” and dreamy and gets freaked out by loud noises etc – kind of the polar opposite of my boy). I did mention it to my wife – “[Friend] emailed me saying hi and what’s up..said you… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
2 years ago

Plausibly deniable ways to establish direct contact are plausibly deniable, right? 😉

What’s I deniable is your wife’s reaction.

Zing! Went the hamster…. 🐹

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
2 years ago

my wife looked a bit surprised but casual and immediately picked up her phone to text the Friend. All very casual, no big deal.

Lol. Here’s what it looks like inside your wife’s head (being casual)
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Asa
Asa
2 years ago

Need some advice please. I became red pill aware just under two years ago. Got skinned alive in family court, borderline ex, blah blah. Went monk mode for about 18 months, imbibed lots of red pill theory, which was useful in many areas of my life in terms of understanding why things are the way they are and adjusting to them accordingly, and went through the grief cycle that it precipitated. Painful stuff. Resisted putting it into practice with women for the longest time though, but have made a start over the last three months or so. Firstly got in… Read more »

IRL
IRL
2 years ago

@Asa

Welcome. You’ll do well.

How old is the Norwegian chick?

asalondon
asalondon
2 years ago

@IRL Thanks for the reply. She is 32, I am 37.

IRL
IRL
2 years ago

@Asa Only briefly now, may comment on the oneities later if time permits and others don’t cover it. Have you arranged it for Monday? Or just “next week”? If Monday then just text her that day after lunch “see you tonight around Xpm, look good” or similar. Statements, no questions, not much investment either. The way she responds (or not) tells you her buying temperature. If no specific day then text “let’s meet troublemaker, I can do day1 or day2”. No questions. Give her the time in response to her agreeing to a day. If she says she can’t make… Read more »

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

ASA Just a quick point along the lines of Mystery Method. Attraction>Comfort>Seduction. You are afraid of one-itis and it lessening your attraction in her eyes. Yet she is already attracted to you. You, both already banged. So you already accomplished the three stages. “Again, this is unprecedented for me for a very hot woman I have met twice and banged once, so my head went a bit into oneitis again. I would also add that after we banged the first time she asked what my relationship status was (not in so many words but you know what i mean) and… Read more »

SJF
SJF
2 years ago

Lets face it. She is an artist. What do artist women do? Hint: Think with their emotions. Feelings. So give her feelings. Feelings aren’t logical. They aren’t masculine. They aren’t trying to win in Red Pill. God, PalmaSailor. You wake up early in the morning. I sit here late at night and ramble on. For one, what do you think about what I said about giving comfort to the HB Sweed? @ASA I’m not the least bit a player, nor post divorce, pua or such. I’m just a logical guy. You did fine. Just do the walz of what you… Read more »

Morpheus
2 years ago

OK, file this under news from a strange world, but I recently was contacted by Paralegal woman out of the blue…I’m curious from a RP perspective what this might all be about, what’s her real motive for messaging me??? The last contact with her was late October…at the very end things got heated with some NASTY words exchanged in both directions, me texting her to never contact me again, and her blocking me on FB, and again I had an ex GF the Nurse who had originally set us up, and was behind the scenes manipulating the situation. In hindsight… Read more »

Morpheus
2 years ago

F*cking IMGUR, they posted out of order again, the first shown is actually the last as part of the exchange.

Morpheus
2 years ago

It’s mainly about validation and attention and endorphine hits of the “match”. Most don’t look like they claim, and most are older than they claim and this would be very obvious if they met you which is why they don’t. Plus their looking for excuses to ‘reject you’ is an ego protection mechanism to reject you before you reject them (which you almost certainly would). The system allocates a seemingly endless supply of men provided society keeps moving. But if that stops then they end up having swiped left on anything local and the matches stop. The perception of a… Read more »

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