For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
Mike
Wala posted this clip a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cYHFI4bylg
Look at the WHY, not the HOW.
Mike @sentient But quite a few PUA’s open with INTEREST as opposed to DISINTEREST? And this works why? When you are displaying high value via the confidence of a direct approach, your look, subcomms or some situational DHV… typically though it works when the girl is lower value than you. That it can work without the IOD just means you’ve skipped a step and this will then typically bite you in the ass on another set when the girl is hotter for example and tells you to fuck off when you go up to her and say she is hot… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATzUEYex0hc
And remember Mystery’s motto “I’d rather fail with a 10 than succeed with a 6.”.
Part 2
@pitbike. Get a few openers and Routines you’re familiar with and practice with them so you don’t get into situations like the one you described where you opened and had nothing to say after that. One you get comfortable you can develop or adapt your own. Who lies more? Works because it taps into s girls emotional programming… Have you ever had a lover from a different country? Is one I use during the comfort stage to sexualise. Krauser lists out A variety of questions for comfort that sexualise. Dig around and then use them and see how they work.… Read more »
“Those were examples of things he was doing, not incantations or spells… The STRUCTURE is what is important, the WHY not the HOW.” Some time ago conversation on a tech forum turned to cooking for reasons I can’t remember. Someone who liked what I was saying asked me for some of my recipes. I responded: “I don’t have any recipes, because I know how to cook.” When I want something to eat, I don’t look at a list of ingredients and then go out and buy them; I look in the fridge and see what I’ve got. The proper purpose… Read more »
”It’s hard to analyse your field reports without knowing what you’re practicing at any given time: are you practicing negs and cold reads? Give us a report and we can assess. It’s hard to assess and offer more tactical advice without you setting some goals and then asking us to help you calibrate your game. Set a few goals: practice openers …use the same one on 10 girls then report to us how it played out and we can help you calibrate.” That’s why I asked you about whether them openers and lines sounded OK. I can then use them… Read more »
Mike
I need help with everything, but for now, I want to work on ‘hooking’ the girl – Not getting rejected soon after I open.
DEMONSTRATE High Value…
DHV until you are getting IOI’s…
Mike
http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/Before_PU/basic/280.html
You are reading but not understanding…
I missed out the DHV story in that lit by mistake. So, i’ll tell a story aboutt saving my ex stripper girlfriend or something to use after she replies to ‘you look like trouble’, 9but i’ll obviously need a few in case that one does ‘work’)
“And once you understand the why you will begin to notice that most recipes don’t actually make a lot of sense. They are made up from tradition that made sense in the environment of those that devised them, but not so much in your environment.
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Necessity is the mother of invention.
Don’t mean that invention ain’t molto buonissimo.
You can add all the excitotoxins to dehydrated library paste you want, still don’t make it fit to eat.
Mmm…excitotoxins.
Starting the cheer.
You say “libraryp” I say “aste”
“Libraryp”
“Aste”
“libraryp”
“Aste!”
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DEMONSTRATE!!!!
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DEMONSTRATE!!!!
Quick LR from business trip yesterday. More for the record than anything else. The 400 Approach Challenge approaches this weekend. Two dates from online, 3 hours apart (these are among the last 3-4 numbers I still have in circulation from before I deleted my online dating apps and profiles 3 weeks ago). First was a HB6 28 year old brunette – very WC, ex Army, swore a lot, lots of stories about drinking with Army buddies etc. She was very keen to meet up and texting me a lot for the last few weeks. Ran my standard hotel bar game,… Read more »
@Culum Could you briefly go over your ‘date formula’, for me? I’ve never had a date so i’m curious how they look in practice. Like, I often read ‘date stories’ on reddit, and lots of them sound really awkward and boring without any kino or spark and I imagine that’s how mine would look! I wonder how people make them fun and flirty without awkwardly trying to use kino. So like, what sort of routines do you use? Do you start the date with just small talk like asking how their day was or what they do for a job?… Read more »
@Pitbikemike – Well, it’s a bit difficult to say. Not because it’s that complicated, but because it is so simple. The real action is in the subtleties and subcomms that come with LOTS of experience. Even though the external view to anyone watching looks almost the same. Anyone who watched a date of mine in 2013 and one in 2017 will see pretty much exactly the same thing and will not understand why most 2013 dates didn’t end in the bedroom, while most 2017 did (unless they are extremely perceptive indeed). Like for eg, I usually start dates with a… Read more »
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thanks a lot for that post, @Culum – Particularly the ‘first date’ stuff.Most people are much more vague about that kind of stuff, so I appreciate the examples.
only got a sec here, but to add to what culum said pitbikemike, here’s an instadate I went on a few months ago. That’s how most of your “dates” will go — find a girl, then pull her with you on an improvised date. That’s what I did here. That date is a bit further down in the FR, with the asian in the bookstore, but also pay close attention to all the other opens I did BEFORE I chatted with the asian girl…probably couldn’t have pulled her had she been my first open of the day. https://therationalmale.com/2016/09/05/the-best-of-the-rational-male-year-5/comment-page-2/#comment-168711 and here’s… Read more »
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Bit random, but how would you approach girls at a leisure centre who are swimming. I just got back, and there was like 5 gorgeous girls during my hour there who were swimming, and there was also a gorgeous teenage lifeguard. I’ve spent all week memorising various openers and ‘attraction pieces’ from the mysterymethod/love systems handbook to use tonight, but none of them would really have been congruent in that environment! They were all young girls, too and I was maybe worried about creeping them out. Is game kind of ‘out of bounds’ sometimes? I couldn’t think of a good… Read more »
@PitBikeMike
Not that I’m much of an example when it comes to pick up in swimming pools, but I find that many of the life guards are usually keen swimmers themselves. They also often swim for the local club.
Often when the pool is quieter you’ll see them on the side of the pool having a quick discussion regarding people’s technique. A few times I’ve gone over and asked if they saw a flaw or anything I could improve on. That’s one way to get a conversation started if you’re concerned about coming across as creepy.
Field Report:- I had another weird encounter on Friday evening. I was in the supermarket and I got talking to one of the female shop assistants there (I’ve spoken to her a few times as she’s quite pleasant, although I’m not interested in taking it any further than that). She mentioned that she had just started working having dashed from her other job working as an assistant at a local nursery school. I subsequently asked her if she had considered finding a full time teaching position, to which she replied that she really wants to teach at an infant school,… Read more »
@PitBikeMike
On the subject of life guards again, I also wouldn’t worry too much about approaching and talking with them, it’s a boring job just sitting there (they’ve told me as such) and are glad just to talk with someone to pass the time.
OK, Field report time: I’d spent all week memorising various routines for opening/transition/attraction from the lovesystems/mystery method handbook so that I at least couldn’t have the excuse of ‘lack of a plan/structure’, or just plain doing everything wrong! My plan was to open lots of sets and really give myself a clue as to whether the routines route would help me at all – However, kind of didn’t really get the chance to do that because the first set that I opened lasted like all night! It was kind of weird.I was a the bar and I noticed a pretty… Read more »
So, Friday was a bust – I had a social circle event and couldn’t go out after that – it got too late. But full evening’s “work” on Saturday. My wing flaked (he’s almost as bad as a girl although he means well and was genuinely sorry) so it was solo. I didn’t get anywhere close to the number of approaches I wanted to do (100+). I did 18 approaches. Good: -18 approaches is still probably my personal best (it’s definitely my highest number of “committed” approaches – actually opening properly and initiating convo instead of vague timid comments) -The… Read more »
PS I know I talk a lot about “enhanced perception” etc but really it IS getting better. Like with yesterday’s first girl, I could *feel* the attraction even after 2-3 minutes of convo with interview questions and me lightly teasing her – I *know* I could have closed her in a way I wouldn’t have registered even a few months ago. I’m also starting to trust those feelings more.
@pitbikemike Really good job on the attraction part, nothing to add here, but this part: “The girl says to me ”Aren’t you going to ask for my number?!!”. I actually end up giving her mine as opposed to asking for hers which is a stupid move, but I was probably drunk by now!” SNL seemed likely out of the question with the sister here, all you could do in this situation is qualify her hard on the number and time-bridge her for a Day2 within 24-48 hours like YaReally explained in the middle of this comment (http://yareallyarchive.com/2015/12/#comment-rationalmale-130634) As for the… Read more »
Culum
Stay solo. Don’t tie your learning to the variability of tour wing. Learn solo. Go hard to 8pm. Then have a nice dinner and recharge to 930. This is when most girls are on dinner dates etc. Then go hard again after. Drink some coffee at dinner…
Hard Work being call3d hard for a reason. But… Once things click it will all become light work.
Good luck.
And use music to pump your state…
@pitbikemike Great job on your last FR. Get back with that girl, you can get a lay out of this likely. If she meets up again (and she might not, girls flake like a mofo these days…which is why you always push for a SNL) she’s definitely down to fuck. My plan was to open lots of sets and really give myself a clue as to whether the routines route would help me at all – However, kind of didn’t really get the chance to do that because the first set that I opened lasted like all night! That’s the… Read more »
Hi, @Hank – Thanks for your thoughts. I love how you and a few others give such detail in taking the time to break down peoples FR’s. ”Good. Again, you are making her chase you. What was your story like?” To be honest, it wasn’t anything in the way of DHV. It was just a short, funny story about getting drunk on a holiday I once took. I’ll try to remember to add in sexual/dhv elements into stories that I tell. Even though it’s all pure fiction! 🙂 ”big ioi. was she facing you when she sat down, or did… Read more »
@pitbikemike Good work, great FR. Can you see the difference between Mystery Method understood as a set of logical routine stacks, specific examples, analyzing and memorizing how to ride this bike, and as a theory of intergender dynamics which informs you WHY something’s happening while you’re enjoying social interactions and are in the moment nonetheless? It looks like you’re progressing quickly. You’re finding that some situations may require different actions or timing and you can’t really calibrate, maybe even notice them, without exposing yourself, jumping in like a man. So props for working towards 10000 hours of mastery behind your… Read more »
Thanks Sentient. Took today “off” – did a couple of street approaches and then an FWB came over. So fully recharged to hit it hard for the next few days. I will be going solo unless my usual wing can make it (may possibly experiment with a new wing for Friday if any of the normal sounding wings from the lair are out).
Weekend update: Took Mrs. Eh out for karaoke to a small venue out of town.. Returning from song one there’s a college fella siting in my chair. He sees me coming from 10 ‘ away and bolts. Mrs. Eh tells me that he introduced himself, asked her age (What do you think it is?…..Sorry, you’e a decade off.), his age (21), was I her boyfriend (No. He’s my husband), will I pop him if he sits in my chair? (It depends on you.), she quizzes him on his personal info. Coincidentally, his family is quite familiar to us, though we… Read more »
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@SJF and all Last week was busy af lol. Haven’t had time for much game lol. Got coffee with Tinder Girl but honestly I’m not really that interested in her any more lol. I went out this past Thursday, Friday and Saturday. On Thursday: Felt really stressed out. Didn’t feel like talking to anyone. There weren’t that many people out so I started to tell myself it was a waste of time. Didn’t approach a group of girls five minutes upon entering first venue so that set me back big league. Tried getting myself into a talkative mood but wasn’t… Read more »
I think I really need to start (a) isolating girls away from there friends, then bouncing to other venues, and (b) pursing longer interactions – i.e. 20 minute – sets before even contemplating ejecting. i eject too early lol wtf
@Safespace Once again, no PUA here, but a few minor points are in order here: “wait, stop, you’re hot, lets get a coffee sometime.” Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the proper form is to complement her on something she is wearing or some innocuous random item of her anatomy rather than her beauty or her hotness. Because complementing her on being hot is beta and is creepy. Don’t ever do that. I’ve spent 29 years not telling my wife she was hot or attractive. (She is.) From the 16 Commandments of Poon X. Ignore her beauty The man… Read more »
@EhIntellect
I enjoyed your field report and admire the agency you have and are acquiring.
I was a bit confused though, you mentioned your wife’s INTP and then flipped into calling her INTJ.
My father was an I INTP (I presumed. And it is vastly superior to INTJ. What a difference a P vs. J makes. But INTJ’s make things happen in real life. They have more agency if they don’t go off the rails.)
@pitbikemike Thanks for your thoughts. I love how you and a few others give such detail in taking the time to break down peoples FR’s. yeah, for me its just because that’s what yareally would do, and I remember it was EXTREMELY helpful to read his detailed breakdowns. I live in an area that i don’t like, with few girls I like, and have had a lot of bad shit fuck me over (especially now lol) so I would always read and re-read yareally’s replies to get inspired to go out again. Like you, I didn’t feel I was doing… Read more »
@pitbikemike
also, linked a FR of mine and yareally’s commentary on it back on last page here, the one about what a date is like nowadays since you asked:
https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-14/#comment-193137
You can see there how detailed yareally’s commentary is…that’s what I try to be like
@Intellect
While you were talking, everyone around me was asking me if I was o.k. going home with you.
Why were people asking your wife this question?
I think I really need to start (a) isolating girls away from there friends, then bouncing to other venues, and (b) pursing longer interactions – i.e. 20 minute – sets before even contemplating ejecting. i eject too early lol wtf Good plan on isolating and bouncing…you can always reopen and build more value. If you leave and are hanging out with other people and being social, girls see that and credit you with more value. So, just be having fun and when you’re ready, isolate and bounce. I stayed in set too long by dancing too much with a 20-something… Read more »
@ theasdgamer I’ll stick with the OP. Polite society can’t accept a reasonable man speaking RP openly. I must of been drunk, high, vying for worst husband of the year, all-around insensitive asshole, etc. The traveling salesman thought to make hay where none grew. He stated he comes to the town often and knows his way around, can help her get home. Default beta WK behavior. Needlessly insensitive? Sure. Confident in the trajectory of life, love and family? Fuck yeah. I am, we’re never static. Either we’re moving forward or degrading. Society’s failures will not be mine, if possible. I’d… Read more »
@ SJF
Mistype. She’s INTP. Thanks.
EhIntellect Interesting report… This here in particular Now home, Mrs. Eh tells me that every time I’d get up the familiar fella was trying to game (my words) her. I’d leave, he come with a test tube shot and tries to lock down her cell phone #, she tells him no way and she ain’t drinking that fruity stuff, (Her: “I’m not drinking water here, you know, it’s a gin and tonic’) and if she’d have a shot it’d be Makers Mark whiskey. He leaves. 5” later he shows up with a whiskey shot for her. Tries to get her… Read more »
Rollo – possible missing post in mod?
@SJF “Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the proper form is to complement her on something she is wearing or some innocuous random item of her anatomy rather than her beauty or her hotness. Because complementing her on being hot is beta and is creepy.” prolly true, but it depends on a lot of factors that are hard to identify. Honestly, from my experiences so far, it doesn’t hurt to throw out a complement on her body every now and then, especially if you haven’t really complemented the girl at all, which in that circumstance I hadn’t at all.… Read more »
http://www.theskillsmethod.com/category/dance-floorclub-game/
Come on Safespace… you are bouncing all over…
@Sentient
lol thats a gold mine of info right there lol
“it doesn’t hurt to throw out a complement on her body every now and then, especially if you haven’t really complemented the girl at all”
The point is you’re appealing, qualifying to her, a subtle frame shift. Betas step into her frame. If you compliment her looks, it’s been recommended here that it be so unusual that it’s not a direct compliment, but piques her interest.
The example I’ve read here is: “You have the cutest wrists, honestly!” I forget who to attribute that to, Forge the Sky maybe…
@safespace Where i’m located there is a venue with a pretty good dance floor. I’ve been thinking of trying some “dance floor game” but haven’t really read or heard of much in regards to how that’s done. Have you ever tried picking up girls literally ON the dance floor? How does that shit work? What I do is lead/follow dancing where you lead a woman on the dance floor. You have to ask her to dance, maybe just by holding out your hand. You lead her through turns and other patterns. It plays on her love for aesthetics, her emotions,… Read more »
ehintellect
post in mod from your FR above – with the wife and the shots…
You don’t need to compliment a woman on her looks…just look at her legs unashamedly and smile.
So, why is it that a overt verbal compliment moves a man into a woman’s frame, but looking at her legs and smiling doesn’t?
EhIntellect – mod released 6:48AM above https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-15/#comment-193402
Thanks Rollo
Sentient, I couldn’t let on I was pissed, jealous, or gave a damn where she got the attention. I felt a pang of curiosity, She’d ask me if I wanted “to know what’s going on…oh I can’t tell you.” Bait bait bait, 6 months back I’d of fallen for it. I let her tell me at her own rate. Maintaining frame in all directions was important to me and had a lot of guys fucking with me that night. I told Mrs. Eh to get shots for the whole table next time. I hear you loud and clear, Sentient. No… Read more »
“So, why is it that a overt verbal compliment moves a man into a woman’s frame, but looking at her legs and smiling doesn’t?”
Because explaining that you Get It means you don’t get it.
Keep your eyes and most of your words concerning her ” looks ” to yourself. Chicks bait you. She already knows how she looks and she’s looking to you to confirm it. Frame starts to shift in her favor right there and then. If you want to smile, go right ahead. Just don’t turn into this – If you ever get the chance to watch girls/women getting ready to go out, it is extremely enlightening. They already know. They pick outfits to highlight and accentuate as best they can. Never, ever, under most circumstances, tell a woman she looks ”… Read more »
@Intellect
Who’s wife here doesn’t crack the door? Allegiance isn’t binary, it’s analogue.
You mean, flirt with other men? Mrs. Gamer flirts, but she calls it “just being friendly.”
Not sure what you mean by the rubicon comment.
@safespace
Never ever put yourself in the position of chasing a woman first. Intrigue her into chasing you first. Then it should go back and forth.
What else can she offer you? What can she do for you?
I think that Mystery calls this “qualifying”.
“I think that Mystery calls this “qualifying”.”
A term borrowed from sales. The process of sorting the buyers from the tire kickers, so you can blow off the tire kickers and concentrate your time on the buyers.
@safespace @palmasailor @pitbikemike @asd @blax @pua Okay, the whole commenting on looks thing: Don’t compliment them.. period This is like buying drinks. You can do it…just like you can do anything…as long as it comes from a position of high value. They question is…WHY are you doing this. If its because you HOPE that she will LIKE you, then it is BAD…because now YOU are chasing her. But if you are doing it because YOU PERSONALLY WANT to do it…to the point where she could throw the drink you bought her in your face, then physically fuck every single other… Read more »
Compliments towards a woman may come in Mystery Methods A3 Phase (Male-to Female Interest). This comes after A1 (the approach) and A2 (Female to Male interest). But they might come in this form: The Mystery Method page 153 Compliments • No crap about “you are so hot,” “You are my dream girl,” etc. In other words, compliment from a screening frame, not a begging frame. • Compliment her style, her energy, her poise, or something unique about her outfit that she chose. Her shoes, her hair, and ONLY if you really like it and think it deserves a compliment. This… Read more »
@EhIntellect and Sentient Good dialog Sentient with the Godfather scene comment. I too think EhIntellect that you are doing your thing well and with proper form. Props on that. Sentient is not only talking about it from the peanut gallery, he did a good job of lecturing to the peanut gallery. No snark question: Who’s wife here doesn’t crack the door? Allegiance isn’t binary, it’s analogue. I’m well aware of my burden, her hypergamy. Fuck, I’ve set the standard high, if she wants more….she’ll have to go elsewhere. If I falter, yes, I get it, she’ll move on. I do… Read more »
Palmasailor There’s an old northern English joke pickup line: “You don’t sweat much for a fat lass” The southern US version is close: “You don’t sweat…much…for a fat gal”. Should be good for an arm slug. Even / especially if she’s a little pudgy. C’mon, what’s with all the talk about compliments? Dole them out sparingly, and only for something that she does that adds value or assists your mission, never for something she just is. Women get more than enough validation from everyone else – other girls, beta orbiters, the whole media complex – just for existing. We don’t… Read more »
I’m sure I’m missing something here but I have to ask.
Why bring your wife to a crowded, popular bar where she feels a great deal of social anxiety and fear? That sounds like a fork in the eye to me.
Eh:
Just throwing this out there…
(I’m sorry, I don’t know the context, wasn’t there, so I’m just imagining this scenario in my head and how the events you described might come across)
Are you sure you weren’t giving off a “Lifestyle” (aka swinger) vibe?
If you leave your wife alone at the time for a long time to go off flirting it might come across like you’re looking for someone to pair off with (and that your wife is likewise available).
Ehintellect SJF Blax HABD Eh – throwing out some other things for consideration, pulling on your thread. I think this situation is interesting when framed back to the “Deep Conversion” discussion, and the concepts of the ‘Ride or Die” girl, and “Ownership” and just how one gets there. These topics of themselves may not be of interest to you vis-à-vis your relationship with your wife and what you want, so maybe scroll on. I couldn’t let on I was pissed, jealous, or gave a damn where she got the attention. True enough, to a point. That point is the edge… Read more »
@anon Why bring your wife to a crowded, popular bar where she feels a great deal of social anxiety and fear? That sounds like a fork in the eye to me. Very interesting–and complex–question. I asked Mrs. Gamer this question. Mrs. Gamer doesn’t like drunks, fights, people being “handsy”, drinks being spilled on her, or cursing, all things you associate with crowded, popular bars. Fork in the eye, right? Funny thing is, Mrs. Gamer went to a crowded, popular sports bar with me last night for taco tues, but no worries. I stayed with her, we ate the cheap lousy… Read more »
What does it take for her to hit that switch off… self mate guard vs. play “I’m the Belle of the Ball” or “let’s you and him fight”?
Mrs. Gamer mate guards herself well…”Belle of the Ball” isn’t a problem and is a DHV for me…if a man get handsy she blanks him…if a man is too attractive Mrs. Gamer looks for me…if Mrs. Gamer is at work, she avoids attractive men…”let’s you and him fight” never happens
“Why bring your wife to a crowded, popular bar where she feels a great deal of social anxiety and fear? That sounds like a fork in the eye to me.” Because Mr. EhIntellect is leading the dance and he enjoys being an Extrovert. And he’s dog training a cat to be a feminine cat. Mrs. Eh actually can hook up with people quite well as an INTP (meet friends). When she warms up to another person, she can really be into a social relationship. And this type of personality (INTP) is also loyal to her mate Mr. Eh. I’ve seen… Read more »
@Sentient EhIntellect nothing to add to your analysis really, it’s spot on… “I couldn’t let on I was pissed, jealous, or gave a damn where she got the attention.” True enough, to a point. That point is the edge we seek. When does anger around “fear of loss” and insecurity transform to the “righteous anger of He the Most High, who is Aggrieved by Transgression” and in doing so sets down the hammer? Because they want to find that edge too. the difference is in whose frame you are operating… if you are angry bc you are mate guarding/worried about… Read more »
@Sentient, @EhIntellect, @having a bad day
the “righteous anger of He the Most High, who is Aggrieved by Transgression” and in doing so sets down the hammer? Because they want to find that edge too.
Mrs. Gamer’s father trained that into Mrs. Gamer.
The reality of her weekend is sinking in. She’s mortified at her behavior, is rather sad, weeping, embarrassed at her obliviousness discerning the situation, that she led him on, at least covertly, didn’t show fidelity. I reassured her she now has some tools and experience to deal with it, told her to remove herself if needed, reinforce our relationship, turn her back, come to me. It’s a start. She’s learning too. She tested me about it, tried to shift culpability of it all. I dealt with it summarily. She sobbed alone. @ anon She’s rather social, talkative, but others do… Read more »
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/6236lj/as_soon_as_he_sells_his_companies_his_wife_leaves/
Damn….
And then his follow up commentary:
“Am I bitter? Nope. Life is too short to be stuck in a bad marriage, and she was right, it was a bad marriage. She just had the courage to call it.
Making money is WAY easier than finding love or happiness. But the next time I decide I’ve found the love of my life, a prenup will definitely be involved. ;-)”
The blue pill is strong with this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbSIWN3nS7w
Compliments? Telegraphed desire? Ok when they know that you know that they know.
@all
the “righteous anger of He the Most High, who is Aggrieved by Transgression” and in doing so sets down the hammer? Because they want to find that edge too.
Mrs. Gamer’s father trained that into Mrs. Gamer.
The point of my comment is that the man doesn’t have to set those boundaries if a woman has been trained to respect them by her father, herself, mother, whoever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPdGUwcNj40
Telegraphed desire or command?
“We’re in a bit of a hurry.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXnoPasZdkA
On mateguarding, Amoging and abundance mentality…
Wish I could find the bar scene from S2 Ep13… where Betty goes to the bar in the daytime, alone. Bartender comes over and says the man in the corner wants to buy her a drink and warns her if she says yes, he will come over and talk to her. She does, he does. She goes to the bathroom, he meets her coming out and they go into an office and bang.
Such a good RP show..
@ Sentient
The Italian guys might have opened “Sei eccitante, ragazza!”
“So why would you experience social anxiety and fear at a crowded, popular bar? You seem like a confident, HSE girl.” I have a high level of social anxiety, Gamer. Particularly in environments with a lot of people I don’t know. Sitting alone in a crowded bar with lot of people I don’t know sounds approximately like what I envision hell to be. I’m forced into social events by life circumstances, and have learned the art of small talk. Most people (from what I’ve gathered second hand) have no idea how painful it is for me. Now, add my spouse… Read more »
“(for hypothetical example, if after our party on Friday I’d thanked everyone for coming over and then started in with an Amway sales pitch, it would’ve been awkward).” Just to add, I’ve actually always wanted to do this just to see the looks on everyone’s faces. Or maybe after a Thanksgiving meal or something…”Hey, now that we’ve all had a wonderful dinner we’d like to introduce you to a wonderful business opportunity!” (turn on television, start sales pitch….) LOL But then, I’ve also wanted to put the plates on the floor and have the dogs lick them and put them… Read more »
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@ hank Wassup player? Fucking bosses. Interesting. fwiw, I have a policy against banging chicks at/from work, but it’s a recent policy. I’m struggling with what to actually tell you about your situation, so I’ll just go with my gut and what I would’ve done before concocting my no-bang the boss thing. Sexual tension is grand and wonderful. What happens once that tension is released could be much more complicated though. I’ll tell you a story about the boss I did not bang, and hope scribbler doesn’t show up all butt-hurt complaining and calling bullshit…. lol. And I think it’s… Read more »
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@hank Blaximus
re bosses…
one question?… do you NEED the job?…
bc it won’t matter if she IS your ‘supervisor’… FI in play… do you even read here?…lol… but only YOU can make that call… since you have to live the results… either way…
and +1 on you needing more info…before you commit…
good luck!
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As a V Card carrying guy… Hank. What do you want more… this shit job you have… or true manhood?
Your life hangs in the balance. Though you don’t realize it yet.
I think what is lost in the balance here… is that many guys just do not get how girls react to you fucking them or trying to fuck them and for whatever reason not doing so. They are cool with either in the vast majority of circumstances.
what you feel she feels.
it’s nice to have that kind of secret when interacting with them. They dig it too.
I’ll say it again – cats not being dogs.
I see there’s some real interesting stuff being discussed now here – even if not directly applicable to me, it’s very enlightening. I’ve been out a lot..grinding it out so not reading as much here as I do when in Small Town. Went to a singles event with my usual quasi-natural wing. Think I made my point about the competition issue – twice. Once we were talking to a two-set and he started talking and both of them were listening to him and I cut him off said something provocative and held their attention with a story for a few… Read more »
@Sentient hank As a V Card carrying guy… Hank. What do you want more… this shit job you have… or true manhood? Your life hangs in the balance. Though you don’t realize it yet. i forgot he still had his v card… that should make a difference if things go bad… “but, but, but… I was a VIRGIN!!!!”…lol… but hank seems socially calibrated enough so things shouldn’t ‘go bad’… but you never know… so i’m agreeing with Blax on the 65%/35% split… still need more info… buuut secret society works for a reason…lol… and he’ll still have to work out… Read more »
Culum Some things for you… How does one have a breakthrough? By breaking through… Time to summon your anger… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN-GGeNPQEg “Anger is an energy… Anger is an energy… Anger is an energy… Anger is an energy… “ – Johnny Rotten Lydon [back in the news of late, blasting some PIL in the background for old times sake] “A-I-D-A. Get mad you son-of-a-bitch. Get mad. You know what it takes to sell real-estate? It takes brass balls to sell real estate. Go and do likewise, gents. The money’s out there, you pick it up, it’s yours, you don’t, I got no… Read more »
Speaking of PIL… saw them in 88, they opened for INXS. I was on a semester off from college, at home so none of my friends were around. My first lay back at college had just broken up with me shortly after I came home and I was in a transitional state, blue pill was in the process of being killed. So I had tickets to this show and no one really to go with. I got in touch with my lifeguard buddy’s girl. He and I guarded together in the summer and we dated these two girls all summer.… Read more »
@Culum really try to feeeel the FI pushing on you…lol… bc it’s all over your FR… My main goal for the night was to chill out and vibe well with my wing and create good energy and pull girls into that and have conversations – and we did that very well. no, YOU did that very well… bc Once we were talking to a two-set and he started talking and both of them were listening to him and I cut him off said something provocative and held their attention with a story for a few minutes (later on I pointed… Read more »
“Now where I grew up most guys followed the Bro Code, so you wouldn’t mess with another guys girl… ”
High school, girls would be on the break. I took one to the fair, she and me, met friends. Took her home. I turned to her after a moment in the running car. Matter of factly I said “Let’s make out.”…and she did. Heavy petting, handjob. My Aha! moment.