Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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mersonia
9 years ago

@asdgamer

“I punked ol’ scray over on the political thread, lol. Got him to do the research for me.”

Doubt it … I’ll believe you if you go find it

…but here anyways

http://i.imgur.com/MtIzb13.gif

theasdgamer
9 years ago

mersonia, since you obviously don’t get it

fanbois = punks

pitbikemike
pitbikemike
9 years ago

Open 1: 2 gorgeous blonde haired girls standing by a table. Everyone is looking at them but scared too approach , so I try my luck, I ask them if they are swedish as an opener, like i’ve sen RSD do. They say ‘no’. I ask their name and reel off a mystery method/love systems routine about their facial expressiona, I try to get the gorgeous targets friend involved and high five her and ask her if her friend is always so difficult to speak too (A Todd RSD line ) Then the girl asks my age. I joke around… Read more »

SJF
SJF
9 years ago

@ChunkyMonkey April 1, 2017 at 4:24 am Just so you have some context to the previous debates. And this is just my opinion. I could be wrong. No one is telling any other group what lifestyle to choose. There’s no argument from OMG’s in regard to those who want to use Game only for PUA and not relationship game. Nothing wrong with that. No one is advocating for LTR as a standard. The best summary of the motives of Married guys (monogamous or not) was put forth by BluePillProfessor (patriarch of MRP) thusly: https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/18/are-you-experienced/comment-page-9/#comment-164864 Yes the marriage market in the… Read more »

SJF
SJF
9 years ago

fanbois = annoying, immature fan of a specific thing.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
9 years ago

@Pitbikemike – props on going out opening. Don’t worry too much about the age thing. All it means is that your subcomms aren’t solid enough yet to build enough attraction. As you get better it will become less and less of an issue. If a girl is attracted to you she doesn’t care about your age (or looks, height..whatever). There are some very rare situations where she *does* like you but may have some internal mental block about guys “over a certain age” in which case it may be better to deflect the question or lie, but that’s unusual and… Read more »

safespaceplaypen
safespaceplaypen
9 years ago

Went out at 9:00PM to 12:00PM. The first women I met I opened with “hey you look nice, how are you.” She said “not bad”. “I’m Safespace, what’s your name?” i said. Then she told me her name. Then there was this awkward silence as she got her drink and signed the bill, but I kept standing there. After that I asked “how’s you’re night been?” and we flirted for a bit. She kept insisting she had to go back to her friends to play darts but I said, “stop, come back, you’re my girlfriend” and I grabbed her hand… Read more »

pitbikemike
pitbikemike
9 years ago

@Culum ”props on going out opening” – Thanks. It’s literally the only ‘positive’ I can take from last night, lol – The fact that I at least approached when every other guy in the bar clearly ‘wanted’ too, but wasn’t brave enough. That Field report wasn’t very detailed in hindsight, but I wrote it at like 2am after I got home and was still tipsy, as I wanted to put some words down whilst it was still fresh in my head. I keep thinking about the first approach with the 2 blondes – (one of whom was stunning) and cringing… Read more »

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
9 years ago

For those still asking about yareally and his departure – here’s my take on it. My point of reference is from am OMG that chucked it all at 56 (mostly because I didn’t discovered RP/TRM in time). mersonia is mostly accurate but leaves out some important aspects. Ya was enough of an asshole to have majorly pissed off the OMGs and as a consequence got ganged-up on enough that he just packed his ball up and ran away. His advice was golden but you just don’t shit on OMG’s wives and life choices like he did. He failed in his… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
9 years ago

Not what I want to do before I take the sled out on my birthday, but just to set the record straight with the benefit of past events neither Hank nor Mersonia know anything about I’ll add a few things here. What Hank and the Troll conveniently leave out is that prior to my desire to ban all RSD material I’d had a very reliable informant (turns out an RSD insider) tell me about the calculated push RSD was making into the Power of Positive Thinking Mindset profit model. Up until then I’d never had a problem with the endless… Read more »

kfg
kfg
9 years ago

“Owen’s a good dude as far as I can tell.”

And if you can fake that with sincerity you’ve got it made as a conman. Remember that “con” is short for “confidence” and is followed by “trick.”

Watch your back, happy birthday, and have a good ride.

mersonia
9 years ago

Happy Birthday @Rollo “What Hank and the Troll conveniently leave out is that prior to my desire to ban all RSD material I’d had a very reliable informant (turns out an RSD insider) tell me about the calculated push RSD was making into the Power of Positive Thinking Mindset profit model Ya stated this long before your informant informed you of this and you deleted his post because of the informants information. Anyone who watched the videos Ya linked in one of them RSD Tyler even said they were going to focus on inner game ( positive thinking , internal… Read more »

cheupez
9 years ago

I never seem to be able get my little head around some of the things that I see on TRM. One of the unspoken features of a good gamer is ZFG assholish attitude. It is hard to sell game and at the same time take a blue pill stance. Blue pill mindset example: A man can share his deepest thoughts, his deepest emotions, even his weaknesses with a woman who he loves and she can reciprocate with real love, in a relationship based on mutual understanding and mutual support. Men who understand game know that this is hogwash. So, what… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
9 years ago

FWB flaked so off to the kiddie club for me for Sat night. I would have gone there anyway solo but it turned out quite a few of the guys from the local lair were going as I found out on the lair forum. I hadn’t met any of these guys before because I generally go solo or with my Natural wing. But I figured worth meeting them. I turned up at the venue (it’s quite big) and found them pretty quickly – partly they gave off the “young PUA/slightly awkward/big group of guys NOT getting drunk and pumping their… Read more »

safespaceplaypen
safespaceplaypen
9 years ago

lol the new rsd transformation woo-woo-release-yourself-connect-with-universe material is pretty fucking gay. but that’s obvious lol. They’re trying to expand into the outer corners of the self-help market, which might bite them in the ass tbh. People bought into pua because you can literally try it out TONIGHT and get some kind of feedback and results. That shits hard to pull off with other kinds of self-help material, like tony robbins, napolean hill, etc.

Blaximus
Blaximus
9 years ago

@ Merson-of-a-bitch Lol… Gofuckyourself. ” You can shit on whoever you want. The older generation just had too many arguments they couldn’t back up with logic. Like when blaximus threatened to DOX YA. They’re just way too emotional. Luckily for them they still have time to grow” I was kidding with Ya because he uses his paranoia as an excuse not to answer direct questions about himself. This guy, who is surrounded by women all using Tinder and with 10,000 orbiters and flying off to the Middle East to shit on foreigners, and get paid handsomely, etc. etc. etc. Then… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
9 years ago

” So, what is going on in a blue pill gamer’s head?”

Mostly industrial strength pedestalization.

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

Enlightenment is a real thing guys. It’s the only way to get lasting happiness. It’s not positive thinking for the sake of positive thinking. You have to deal with your fears and insecurities and pride and the shit you shove down into your unconscious and subconscious. Positive thinking is the end result.

SJF
SJF
9 years ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Rollo doesn’t have a problem with the Power of Positive Thinking. He has a problem with: “appropriating his Red Pill Brand to sell a religion of positive thinking that convinces guys it’s the secret formula to solving their BP goals.” It has nothing to do with being against positive mindset, enlightened self interest and self improvement as a red pill masculine individual. A hallmark of the the OMG’s here is their positive mindset. We had a get together last weekend (Heheh, field report) and I was humble bragging among some masculine red pill guys… Read more »

SJF
SJF
9 years ago

Field report:

“Veni, vidi, vici” is an old saying.

but I decided to “Vidi, vici, veni.”

I attracted, I comforted, I seduced. H/t to Mystery.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Culum

““No way..just..no. ”

“Then I told myself that this wasn’t the man I was or wanted to be…”

Get Mad You Son of A Bitches (GMYSOAB) eventually leads to (IANGTBTPIETBAL) I Am Not Going To Be The Person I’m Expected To Be Any Longer…

Breakthroughs require breaking.

j
j
9 years ago

^ Lmao. I said to myself, if Sentient reads Culum’s FR, this line would give him a massive boner.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

“Achieve your REAL GOAL, and establish a new default state of being full of Happiness, Completion, and a Sense of “Being Enough” in every moment.” – Julien Blanc Transformation Mastery

Recommended cost? $597

But hey it includes Guided Subconscious Release…

And they said living a Platinum Rule life and displaying the Alpha Triad DPA traits was woo…. lolz

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

J – Schwiiiing! (no homo)… 😉

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

and no invoice!

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

I Realized I Had Been Thriving off a DIRTY-VALIDATION HIGH For Years… Here’s the deal… When I started on my self development journey, I thought getting girls would make me happy. So that is what I did – I went ALL OUT. I got so good at picking up girls and teaching my clients to do the same – I became considered one of the BEST IN THE WORLD And my ego soared to astronomical heights. I travelled the world sleeping with the hottest girls, absorbed constant validation from packed seminar rooms, made piles of cash, and did and said… Read more »

kfg
kfg
9 years ago

“Recommended cost? $597” Used to was you were told to go sit on top of a mountain and meditate, but where’s the $590 profit in that? “I have it all now – the money, the girls, celebrity status… So… “WHY DON’T I FEEL COMPLETE?”” And he was rich—yes, richer than a king— And admirably schooled in every grace: In fine, we thought that he was everything To make us wish that we were in his place. So on we worked, and waited for the light, And went without the meat, and cursed the bread; And Richard Cory, one calm summer… Read more »

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

If it can force a no-self realization by watching a few videos it’s a steal. Aren’t you a capitalist?

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

The stealing is the real part…

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

http://wreckyourself.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Big-Tent-Revival.jpg I was driving home early Sunday morning through Bakersfield Listening to gospel music on the colored radio station And the preacher said, “You know you always have the Lord by your side” And I was so pleased to be informed of this that I ran Twenty red lights in his honor Thank you Jesus, thank you lord… Well the preacher kept right on saying that all I had to do was send Ten dollars to the church of the sacred bleeding heart of Jesus Located somewhere in Los Angeles, California And next week they’d say my prayer on the… Read more »

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

One thing I want to point out that I’ve seen a lot of around here. Pride is not a “positive” emotion. Pride is the smoke to insecurity’s fire. Any time you see someone boasting about this or that, rest assured that that person most likely has an unconscious insecurity about this or that. It doesn’t seem like a whole lot of people that stick around here get past this point of development. When I see someone boasting about something all I can see is the underlying pain and insecurity. You can’t get rid of pride by acknowledging it. You’re just… Read more »

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

I’d appreciate some insight into a field incident the other night. A few months ago I got hit on quite hard by a girl with a bf (I’ll call her Ms Branch). She’s a year older than me, and has kids and obviously her hitting on me with her bf right by her was a red flag, so I didn’t return much ito flirting but did accept her offer of ‘friendship’. I did this because she is pretty social, would invite me out, and then I got to meet her girlfriends. As a result, in a town full of very… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

I get hugs all around, and then get invited to hit up another spot with them

Hit it HABD!

, I would think that zfg, strong, quiet and mellow has its place too.

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Yup.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

But I don’t understand Ms Bff’s reaction since she was the one who invited me out, basically ignored the fuck out of me and then acted like my behaviour had been problematic. The smiley chatty cousin dude had a role in this because he was basically being the exact opposite of me all night . Aside from that I think I am socially aware enough to notice if I have made a massive fuckup of a social situation, but in this case I just don’t see it. Black Pill – this is what happens when chicks get blue balls… Congrats.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Just want to learn something from this and take something out of it moving forward.

Even sex gods have to deal with The Burden.

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@Sentient I am used to a bit more push pull from women. I get a shit test, then a giggle when I pass it, so their own bitchiness gets tempered and you both kinda know it’s just a game. This is the first time I have ever seen girls who were receptive to me go hard bitch mode without letup. It was unrelenting, from the moment I got in that car they didn’t give any encouragement, any friendliness or warmth. Like I said my own behavior was quite a bit more distant and quiet than normal, but that’s just where… Read more »

theasdgamer
9 years ago

@Blackpill

“at least I’m not old, single and lonely.” A nuclear show of disinterest. Assuming you didn’t first show disinterest, you reply with,

“Excuse me, I think I see somebody who’s not a total asshole.” [Smile, backturn, and go chat up some random dude.] You reply with your own nuclear show of disinterest.

Enforce your boundaries or you’ll get hustled.

If you did show disinterest first, you backpedal, saying, “Woah, chill, you misunderstood. I meant blah blah blah.” [reframe what you said as something harmless and fun, hopefully]

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@adsgamer there were 4 of us in an uber when she said that. The night hadn’t even really started and I had basically just agreed to their invitation to go out, so I didn’t have time to provoke something. I can’t remember what I said that got that response from her, but it was pretty innocuous cos I remember thinking ‘whoah fuck, that’s disproportionate.’ My response was basically not to react strongly and to trivialize it like it didn’t get through (it did, just because it was so unexpected). Your response is a good one for the future – in… Read more »

j
j
9 years ago

@Black Pill What exactly was your goal/intentions here? If you went with group hoping to fuck bff, you had to be lean more toward “fun/gamey mode” rather of “laid back quiet mode”. That’s the side bff was hoping you’d bring out when she invited you to go with her. (which you should have declined in the first place. “Never go do whatever it is she invites you to do, if you haven’t fucked her yet: http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/3/#comment-heartiste-421286 To get the bang it’s just basic fun gamey mode. isolate. make ‘it just happen’. She pegged you as a guy who doesn’t “just… Read more »

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@j I didn’t want to fuck the bff, she is cluster B. I wanted to have a chance to game Ms Sassy a bit, but Ms Sassy had her bitch shield set to kill and friendly cousin dude was in there and hard. I wasn’t out to get laid. Up until Saturday I had about seven girls from this group interested and was wanting to suss them all out before making my pick. You’re right that bff didn’t get what it was she thought she was ordering, but at the same time I’d think me not caving into expectations and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

so I didn’t have time to provoke something LOL. You’ve been out with Sassy before though… Ms Sassy and I hit it off, the boyfriend noticed and ended up mate guarding her all night and coming across as pretty needy, So you hit it off before, now you are out with her again WITHOUT her BF around… hell yeah she is going to shit test you AND hope you pass it… 😉 Girls “fitness test” (a better term usually) guys for what reason? To categorize them. She hit her serve hard cause ASD, you returned the ball out. No back… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Are you above average looking Black Pill?

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@sentient I get told literally every weekend that I look like Matt Damon or Mark Wahlberg. Based on that (conflicting) feedback, I’d say yeah. I also have a gym body, although most guys here do.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

You suffer from Good Looking Guy Syndrome. Welcome… your membership materials are in the mail. So this isn’t a cold approach situation above, you’ve been out with these girls and have been THE social fun flirty guy, i.e. The Whole Enchilada. They’ve seen it and want it to continue… so you go out again and you lay an egg (to them) because now you are all Mr. I Want You To Love The Real Me… and now they are pissed. which is why I said it would have been easier to fuck your way through all of them… this is… Read more »

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@sentient so now my looks count against me too? Lol. I just want to say I wasn’t trying to be ‘love the real me’, I was just being aloof. That’s part of my legit personality, but I always thought aloof was good. Body language was sitting back manspread, being unconcerned with my exclusion and checking out other chicks, and eventually chatting up one of the hottest at the place. From what I have learned so far, being unpredictable is part of attraction. One thing is in that situation, with the cousin being so chatty I’d have looked like I was… Read more »

j
j
9 years ago

If sassy was your target. I would have gamed bff to trigger Preselection/jealousy plotline. That should help lower sassy’s bitch shield. Pass a couple shit test (girls don’t shit test guys they don’t wanna fuck). Run some BF destroyer. Then get her number to go to another bar with just her, no one there to judge her (this is why you don’t go places where girls invite you to if you haven’t banged. She probably knows a few regulars the/bartenders at that bar that would tell her boyfriend. The reason for the bitch shield perhaps). Then you meet her at… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
9 years ago

Black pill, I’m with Sentient on this. You triggered attraction and then let them down. You’re like a stacked girl who always wears short skirts & a crop top out at night, being all friendly to men, exuding sexuality but always eventually going home to “read a good book” alone. Sure, you didn’t know you were doing it, but they don’t know that and even if they did know it intellectually their hindbrain doesn’t care. Ms. Sassy came out without her BF wanting to meet you. You turned out to be something other than what she expected, it frustrated her,… Read more »

Ajax Parallax
Ajax Parallax
9 years ago

@Black Pill wrote “But I don’t understand Ms Bff’s reaction since she was the one who invited me out, basically ignored the fuck out of me and then acted like my behaviour had been problematic. The smiley chatty cousin dude had a role in this because he was basically being the exact opposite of me all night.” My take: You entered their frame the moment you left your buddies and jumped in the Uber with Ms. BFF, Sassy and beta cousin. They dictate the rules of engagement with them at this point. You’re already behind. You were pegged for Ms.… Read more »

anon
anon
9 years ago

“I get hugs all around, and then get invited to hit up another spot with them (and also get invited to Ms Bff’s birthday party this coming Friday). I agree (dumb, had a bad feeling about it), say bye to my buddies, and we get in an uber to the next spot. In the uber I’m talking to Ms. Sassy and suddenly she says in response to something I said ‘at least I’m not old, single and lonely.’ I recognize the shit test, but part of me still thinks ‘fuck that’s vicious’. I needed a quick response so I just… Read more »

j
j
9 years ago

“at least I’m not old, single and lonely” “after this the group is cold to you and tries to ditch you”

Nah just Agree and Amplify. Don’t take them seriously. This is the kind of guy they thought Black Pill was. “ya and don’t forget 2 inch dick, all I got going for me is being really really ridiculously good looking (zoolander pose). I’m never gonna lose my virginity :(” (or whatever just made that up right now) That’s these girls type. Not aloof butthurt game

anon
anon
9 years ago

“Nah just Agree and Amplify. Don’t take them seriously. This is the kind of guy they thought Black Pill was.”
There is missing data so I don’t think it’s possible from the information given to know either what kind of guy they thought Black Pill was, or why they had that reaction. All we know is the result. Which doesn’t sound particularly good. If they’re smiling and hugging and asking you to go to parties and please jump in this uber car and come with us…and within minutes 180 out the other way, something happened there.

Ajax Parallax
Ajax Parallax
9 years ago

@anon

“…suddenly she says in response to something I said ‘at least I’m not old, single and lonely.’”

This.

Sounds like a neg gone way awry. What did you say to her, Black Pill?

j
j
9 years ago

@anon

“The other times I have met this girl I have been a fun/gamey kind of mode, and this Saturday I was in a more laid back, quiet space”

These are alpha females. I know these type of girls. 2 of my girls shit test me constantly over text. I don’t take their shit seriously and they know I won’t take their shit seriously. They prefer jerkboy game to quiet passive game.

Alpha female:

https://youtu.be/ZzmD8mZZKfc

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@ajax thanks for that read, sounds about right. Just two things, I didn’t follow them to the club – they told me they were done and going home, and I told them I’d probably go there. Also by the time I hit up the shooter girls I’d had enough of the gay menage a trois happening beside me, and was just doing what I felt like doing. I also knew that game wise, asking why I’d been exiled at the club was game over, but I knew it was over and was just curious as to what she had to… Read more »

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

Just out of interest Ms Branch messaged me out the blue today, asking how the game was this weekend (thought I was going to watch live). So Bff hasn’t told her what went down on Saturday. I’d have expected that I’d have been trash talked in the meantime.

anon
anon
9 years ago
pitbikemike
pitbikemike
9 years ago

hey @culum and @sentient Little late on replying to your last posts to me about routines/how RSD guys manage to get away with interview mode etc. I’ve been going over my latest FR in my head a lot, as I often do on nights where I feel as though I made a dick out of myself! lol I think that part of the reason I feel bad is because i’m starting to wonder whether i’m really just too stupid to learn pickup! i’m not looking for sympathy. Just I’m not particularly smart and struggled a bit in school, and maybe… Read more »

safespaceplaypen
safespaceplaypen
9 years ago

@pitbikemike

bro, i feel you. This game is really shitty. I don’t really comment on you’re stuff because i’m a “newb” so i don’t really know shit lolol but i’m sure my psychological state is at a similar level as yours. There are a lot of psychological and external hurdles to deal with for sure.

Keep it up man! I’ve been reading your FR’s and your making progress!

safespaceplaypen
safespaceplaypen
9 years ago

You may have already seen this vid, but the part at 9:45 where Derek speaks really resonates when it comes to dealing with adversity out there in the field, and it serves a reminder that this shit is actually a difficult thing to learn lol. [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q7oKcFiYig&w=560&h=315%5D All I can say about other guys talking about “i ran some game” or “just learn some game bro” or even guys that you see out there that are actually running game is that (a) a lot of these guys prolly don’t have that good of game, or (b) they’re simplifying the concept… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
9 years ago

@rollo Okay, so let me first take the time to appreciate your lengthy and in depth comment concerning yareally’s departure, especially considering that you wrote it so soon before your vacation for your birthday. Keep that feeling in mind, because it will come up later. Now this whole debate is about two people arguing very different things and arguing past one another. Its all really a misunderstanding is all. Before I go further, and I know I’ve said this before, but this isn’t an attack on any one person or group. TRM was one of the major influences that completely… Read more »

j
j
9 years ago

@pitbikemike “So at the moment, even after a year of going out, my biggest issue is still building attraction and being able to ‘hook’ the girl after teh open. Way way too many instant rejections or instances where i’m talking too a brick wall for a minute, and then reject myself after I run out of things to say” YaReally gave good advice to hank on this a couple months ago. Read the first two comments (and the links in those comments) here: http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=A2+hank+holiday And the first comment here: http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=Look+at+this+glass%2C+it’s+completely+empty YaReally was the best at explaining complex things in simple… Read more »

SJF
SJF
9 years ago

“…..because guys like you should be working together, and quickly burying the hatchet and moving on. But that didn’t happen and that’s why the whole situation was so unfortunate and pointless.”

http://filmgenius.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/no-country-for-old-men_tommy-lee-jones_josh-brolin_javier-bardem_91.jpg

It wasn’t so unfortunate for guys on a certain side of the aisle, nor was it pointless. It may even have been a lesson on why to work together as a tribe on certain tasks (mastering The Red Pill)…..but that didn’t happen….

safespaceplaypen
safespaceplaypen
9 years ago

YaReally’s commentary also did a good job of not making you feel like total shit for being a newbie or for making mistakes. When you go out into the field, then read his posts, you get the vibe that this guy “just gets” where you’re coming from. He’s seen all the pua angles. It’s pretty inspiring and motivating tbh

hank holiday
hank holiday
9 years ago

@pitbikemike Okay, things only get harder the older you get. Despite what you think, 30 is still young, but a little delay here will lead to another delay and before you know it you are 50. So its all well and good to take a month long break here and there, but while you are young you should be pushing as much as possible. Take it from me, and I’ll post details later once I get things fixed and come up with a way to be more anonymous about it, but it REALLY FUCKING SUCKS when you are hellbent on… Read more »

j
j
9 years ago

@pitbikemike

First link might be a duplicate of the second one. So Just read the comments here at these timestamps (July 6, 2016 8:23am, 4:51pm, and 5:28pm):

http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/7/#comment-rationalmale-162192

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Pitbikemike I think that part of the reason I feel bad is because i’m starting to wonder whether i’m really just too stupid to learn pickup! Stop trying to learn pick up and start learning pick up. i’ve read maybe 7 pickup books and have watched maybe 5 game ‘products’ and made maybe 400+ approaches. This is ^^^ is trying to learn pick up. It is not learning it. More is not better. Sloooow down… Seek understanding of the subject matter. The WHY behind the HOW. The HOW will come but not if you can’t grasp the WHY. This is… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Hank

which is why it was all so sad how shit went down.

Here you go…

http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/

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Let the healing begin.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Rollo

Is there a WordPress Plugin that those so afflicted can use to lay down memorials on Ya’s grave?

http://res.cloudinary.com/sagacity/image/upload/c_crop,h_960,w_1280,x_0,y_0/c_limit,w_1080/jim_morrison_grave_zze2ck.jpg

j
j
9 years ago

“NYC Uber passenger threatens to falsely accuse Uber driver with rape just to get her way”

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e44_1491322560

On a positive note, dude has really strong frame control

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Pitbikemike

My thing on this blog is to not tell you better routines – but to develop your mind for the game. The foundation of all game is understanding human psychology. Meeting girls is just one avenue of that psychology…

When you’re chatting up a lady, ask yourself what emotional story am I telling her?

What am I saying with my words?
With my body language?
With my actions?

Because just chatting chicks up in series is not enough.

http://www.westindianarchie.com/why-you-should-reject-the-numbers-game-and-statistical-approaches/

SJF
SJF
9 years ago

@ Pitbullmike. A long time ago I learned how to learn well. But it came from desire to learn. And it was very outcome independent. Like Mystery says: it was the process not the outcome that matters. So you’ve read 7 books? I’ve read about fifty in the last two and a half years. In pursuit of red pill awareness and game. Here is a method of Doing the Work by Steven Pressfield: https://therationalmale.com/2016/05/06/good-girls-bad-girls/comment-page-2/#comment-155158 Remember, our enemy is not lack of preparation; it’s not the difficulty of the project or the state of the marketplace or the emptiness of our… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
9 years ago

Sentient, westindianarchie is a really interesting link. Thanks for posting.

http://www.westindianarchie.com/page/6/

This quote:

In its most basic form , game is who reacts to who.

I will have to contemplate for a while. To me it has a lot of depth and implications.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

AR “In its most basic form , game is who reacts to who.” Yes. Or another way to think about it, much of game is Contrast and Do not give what is expected, when it is expected. Another useful short hand mindset. Why does an Indicator of disinterest work? Because the girl is expecting supplication. Why does strong kino/physicality work? Because the girl is expecting timidity. Why does teasing or strong opinion work, because a girl is expecting obsequiousness. Why does an abundance mentality work? Because the girl is expecting scarcity. Etc. etc. This is a lot of what naturals… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Why did Sollozzo think he could rub out The Don and get what he wanted? Because Sonny’s responses showed that Sonny was in Sollozzo’s frame.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Why meets How courtesy of WestIndianArchie… The How https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOjI-4S6TUA The Why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufdvYrTeTuU http://www.westindianarchie.com/jokes-and-game-what-am-i-a-comedian-pt-1/ Now don’t get lost on this… but imagine you going into the Monopoly joke off an open “hey check this this out…”… and introducing some kino at points of emphasis, and doing some little roll offs where you break eye contact and scan the room or sip a drink and extend out loooong pauses by this stuff to hold her attention during the build up. And then when she laughs and grabs your arm at the punchline (A2) you go into some qualifying and some compliance tests… Read more »

anon
anon
9 years ago

“Why does an Indicator of disinterest work? Because the girl is expecting supplication.”
Disinterest works because it is a value signal.

“Why does strong kino/physicality work? Because the girl is expecting timidity.”
Timid men are generally lower value that non-timid men.

“Why does teasing or strong opinion work, because a girl is expecting obsequiousness.”
Strong and independent men are typically higher value.

“Why does an abundance mentality work? Because the girl is expecting scarcity.”
The abundance mentality is also a value signal.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Anon – please just… no. Men are talking.

These are value signals because they are rare… and work back into evo-bio/psych principles.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

The cat string theory refers to a marketing concept called the law of scarcity; marketers entice buyers with statements like “supplies are limited” and “this offer expires on a set date.” The concept is designed to enhance the value of a product or service based on its scarcity. https://www.reference.com/business-finance/cat-string-theory-d2abee2377920b89 blockquote Cats don’t take orders, but they can be tempted to chase. If you tie a feather to the end of a string, and use it properly, YOU can get a cat to perform acrobatics. But isn’t it interesting that if you put the feather down in front of the cat,… Read more »

anon
anon
9 years ago

Sentient:
Hey! You shushed me. LOL 🙂
Okay. I’ll ten-e-hut and obey.
Suppressing the many examples in my memory that belong on a de-motivational poster.
With the caption: Sometimes “the unexpected” can go very very badly.

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Good girl… 😉

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Useful MM Crib Sheet http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aPxQolHNWswJ:www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php%3F8751-Mystery-Method-Updated-to-Year-2013-All-in-One-Attraction-Comfort-Sex+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us First off all: In my eyes the name “Mystery Method” is not a good term. It should much rather be called the “Mystery Theory”, since the origin of the Mystery Method is not to give people a guideline as what they have to do (aka no “walkthrough of seduction”). It’s much more a theory of how seduction happens in the real world and how naturals (= people who never “learned” to pick up girls but are still successful at doing so) are seducing women. In other words the idea is to look at what successful… Read more »

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@Pitbullmike when I first thought about even trying game the part that freaked me out the most was thinking ‘what if there’s an awkward silence’. It’s a reasonable fear, but I managed to let go of it doing some stuff I picked up from the PUA community and combining it. First thing is I don’t find that trying to have a ‘normal’ conversation works, cos you are doing what literally every other chump in the room would do if they had the balls to talk to her. So best start is a neg, but not too hard. Generally I check… Read more »

pitbikemike
pitbikemike
9 years ago

Hey, @blackpill Thanks for your thoughts. Yeah, the awkward silence thing is certainly one of my fears, I guess. But that’s less of an issue assuming i’m able too at least even half-way ‘hook’ a girl. There’s a vid by ‘honestSignalz’ that I can’t find at the moment, but the PUA (who I assume obviously has more ‘game’ than most people could hope to have since he’s a ‘pro’) attempts to open this girl, and she’s just kind of looking at him like he’s on fire. He says a few things to try to get her to crack, asks her… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
9 years ago

Phew….busier than a 1 legged man in an ass kicking contest lately. But I wanted to be sure to address something my estranged brother @ Andy said a minute back. “One thing I want to point out that I’ve seen a lot of around here. Pride is not a “positive” emotion. Pride is the smoke to insecurity’s fire. Any time you see someone boasting about this or that, rest assured that that person most likely has an unconscious insecurity about this or that. It doesn’t seem like a whole lot of people that stick around here get past this point… Read more »

safespaceplaypen
safespaceplaypen
9 years ago

@Blaximus

lol i also noticed in @Andy’s comment the vibe of “well if you’ve got pride it probably just means you’re insecure about something” which is a classic reframe i’d expect from a guy just trying to fuck with me or tool me lol, or a woman

“the ” everyone is equally special ” bullshit is a negative for men. ” <=== lol true, there's also literally no real physical evidence for it so its hard to tell why people still push it lolol.

Blaximus
Blaximus
9 years ago

@ safespace

” the ” everyone is equally special ” bullshit is a negative for men. ” <=== lol true, there's also literally no real physical evidence for it so its hard to tell why people still push it lolol."

Because if you will buy into it, you will definitely see women as your " equal ". You will eschew all of the Manly Nonsense and just be more like chicks, which is the ultimate goal of the FI – nullify manhood.

theasdgamer
9 years ago

@Blackpill so now my looks count against me too? Yes and no. A good looking guy (GLG) will get quick looks from girls, but he will be expected to not have anti-Game and girls will expect him to be charming. @Sentient Thanks for handling the riffraff, heh. @anon Your comment about getting noisy, popular clubs and getting poked in the eye made sense to me and was a clue to a past incident that I had with Mrs. Gamer where I took her to a club and left her alone for five minutes and danced by her with a hot,… Read more »

theasdgamer
9 years ago

@ anon

I should have written “Your comment about going to noisy, popular clubs…”

hank holiday
hank holiday
9 years ago

@pitbikemike How serious is the cancer? I know now a guy who had cancer back in his late twenties, but he was able to have the cancer removed and he’s still cancer free some five years later. Good thing for you is at least you know you have cancer. Better to find it now than later in life. Hopefully the doctors can get rid of the cancer for you. All the more reason to keep at it though. As for me, heaths not that bad, it just interferes with being able to bang girls. But I’ve been to the doctor… Read more »

Black Pill
Black Pill
9 years ago

@pitbullmike I understand that it seems hard to come up with jokes or just be funny, and I had the same reaction as you when I first had to deal with that expectation, since off the cuff humor is hard for me. For me it comes down to being relaxed. If you’re naturally funny you’ll be naturally funny when you are relaxed and at ease, you don’t need to know jokes. For me it’s very situational, I work with what she says and put a spin on it. One night I was talking to a girl and she said ‘wow… Read more »

theasdgamer
9 years ago

@Blax

well if you’ve got pride it probably just means you’re insecure about something

Maybe @Andy means “well, if you boast, it probably just means you’re insecure about something”? That’s how I read his comment. Maybe I read it wrong.

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

My home boy Blaximus. I also totally disagree 100% with about 50% of what you’re saying. Pride is negative and is a hindrance to further growth. There is nothing wrong with being satisfied and happy with external achievements, but if you’re basing your self-worth on external achievements it is a substitute for healthy self-esteem. If you’re basing your self-worth on something outside of you then are compensating for a corner of your psyche where you hate yourself. Somewhere deep down out of your conscious awareness. The only way to have rock solid true self-esteem is to accept yourself as you… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
9 years ago

Andy

“As far as everyone being equal… I know this is true”

And the implications of this thinking are what?

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