For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@blax So Game = being street smart for example, would this comment from this thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1366217) be considered game: “I use my street smarts every day. I may say the same thing to ten people ten different ways- not because I want to `change things up,` but because I analyze and judge everyone I meet upon every occasion I have. It also helps that my verbal IQ is off the charts (and therefore placed in the 99.99th percentile). This allows me to articulate and find words that accurately represent the people I meet, and understand them more. (Please note I… Read more »
” So I know what yo mean though I don’t expect alot of the people here to pick up on it.” Of course you don’t Mersonia. Because you are a special snowflake. You lived your own hard life and you live to tell about it. “I feel bad for most the other races of guys when I go out…cause even though I had to deal with the same schooling/conditioning/parents and shit I still got to see some dudes who had it. Lol these dudes just don’t have it.” So you are racist against those guys that didn’t have to deal… Read more »
@ j
Lol, I dunno if what that guy says is street smart or not. So many words. It might be street smart depending on what street he’s on.😀
Some game elements are in some of what he lays out. That’s why I always beat the drum here about ” perspective “. Where you are affects what you can see at any given moment.
Maybe I should read more in that thread link.
But I want to have sex now, so fuck that link till tomorrow.
PEACE!!!!!!!!!
@StuffinBox LOL. It’s good that we all don’t agree or have the same reference points. We need a Blax and YaReally. Because going back and forth about our observations allows for me to at least interrogate my own observations. I’ll have to try that EC thing. Freshen up – I don’t assign much value to those things. A good way to think of the various flavors of game is how Macro and How Micro it is. I’m micro about conversations and interactions – but not so much about a chick yapping about how women only make 3% of what a… Read more »
@Blax It was a different time. I learned game by reading lines online and some of the explanation, and then driving down town. Of course I had approach anxiety – but it wasn’t this crippling fear that I read about online. Like I said above – if what you’re doing has been working for you – what’s your motivation to change? I don’t see much of a point in learning what MM/RSD and all of the history of game as rediscovered by the internet would help – other than to understand why some of us make the recommendations that we… Read more »
@Anonymous Reader I think it’s easier to get laid in 2017, but it’s not easier to learn game. Dudes can take great photos, optimize profiles, use algorithms to find receptive girls, automate 1st messages and replies. Take girls out on cheap and cool dates, thanks to all info being online. Using uber so she can drink and he can get a taste. Or the “netflix and chill”. On top of that, for chicks that want to try something else (or guys too) – they can just point and click. So hormones get mediated by a digital infrastructure. The thing is,… Read more »
Best book I’ve read on street smarts is Sparkman’s 1979 Art of Manipulation which was one of the books Naval recommended in the podcast link I shared a few pages back (the book is like $700 on amazon lol but here is a link to the PDF for anyone interested: https://twitter.com/MaxNewmanSays/status/810629207613177856 “Necessity forced me to turn to some rather unorthodox characters as sources for this book on manipulation. I’d already exhausted the more respectable alternatives by taking a master’s degree in advertising. But studying Madison Avenue’s methods in detail taught me very little. I found that depending on college and… Read more »
I could bring in some tried and true black game. I’ve met pimps and pros, as I’m in my 40’s. But as the adage goes – the trick is addicted to ho’s pussy – the pimp is addicted to trick’s money – the ho is addicted to the pimp’s game The key point here is that the pimp does not give a fuck about the chick’s pussy at all, other than for money making purposes. She’s unable to reach him and his inner core with her most powerful weapon. And because of that – because he cannot be conquered by… Read more »
@WIA
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/what-betas-can-learn-from-pimps/
good shit man. I’m gonna check out The Deuce
@KFG: threadwinner with the Monty Python “How to do it” sketch, brilliant. @Blax: I don’t know why you are so negative about what has several times shown to be decent didactic material for newbies, whether classic MM material or certain (not all) RSD videos. You went to school back in the day right? It’s like you run into a guy with English as second language that is crap at it and go “How is it so hard for these adults to learn English?”, and when someone else puts up primary school level material to help you cringe because it is… Read more »
@SJF Ignoring the Parts of your post that aren’t relevant to discussion. “So you are racist against those guys that didn’t have to deal with the same schooling/conditioning/parents and shit. And if some dudes didn’t have to go through the hard schooling, they just can’t get Red Pill and Game Right? ……Sigh… you always do this. (You should look up( stop words) also because you often use them) 1. If I said yes it wouldn’t be racist. 2. I think you misunderstood what I meant or I wasn’t clear enough in what I was trying to put across. Typing these… Read more »
Real quick- @ IAS I personally don’t find Rsd Todd or especially Tyler interesting as men, but I do think they offer something to guys as far as pickup goes, but it’s annoying to hear them say that what they do is ” teach game “. They’re like real estate guys running a business claiming to teach you all of ” the secrets ” to making money in real estate. Pua can be invaluable to young cats trying to figure some stuff out. I’ve never said otherwise. And their childish snickering at red pill just shows how much they don’t… Read more »
Lol, re: Monty Python
Growing up all of my close friends and I would drop everything we were doing every Sunday evening to catch the flying circus on PBS. We were all HUGE fans of the show. Football all day, capped by Monty at night. Good times.
It looks dated now, but at the time it was fairly cutting edge and absolutely hilarious.
@mersonia ” “Other things, like “reckless eyeballing” and the atmosphere of control is something even so-called Dark Triad PUA’s don’t even touch” Ooooohhhh lil baby .Didn’t expect to see that here. Lol, have never seen that. I expect it’s because pimps would never show up in my haunts and I avoid their haunts like the plague. In their haunts, I wouldn’t eyeball back. If they tried that shit in my haunts, the bouncers would deal with them. So they wouldn’t do that shit in my haunts. A party of major drug dealers showed up in my haunts and they were… Read more »
Lol.
Don’t be skeered man.
Btw, this is isn’t Sinaloa. A dude selling weed and pills carrying a 9 isn’t a major drug dealer.
Pro tip – there is no true ” safety “. As a former bouncer, let me tell you that looking to bouncers to defend or protect you is a sucker’s move. Come on over to the dark ( triad ) side and hang out. You’ll learn what and when to fear, and what not to fear.
“Guys have to at some point move on from primary level teaching and graduate. Pua is never a final destination.” Remember the sting movie in the 70s? Primary level teaching is, the easiest person to con is somebody that wants something for nothing,or the easiest con is played on a con artist. This is why people learn to hide their agendas, either to keep from being found out or to avoid being taken advantage of. The trick is in listening and watching for cues or tells, these come up in normal interactions or can be prompted with questions, jokes and… Read more »
Learning to paint a picture:
http://problogservice.com/images/Bob-Ross-2.jpg
Art:
http://www.dailyartdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MPB_110.046.jpg
” “Other things, like “reckless eyeballing” and the atmosphere of control is something even so-called Dark Triad PUA’s don’t even touch” My old man drove night cab for fourteen years in a town with three military bases,a whore on every corner,dance clubs everywhere and saturated with all the drugs in the 60s and 70s. His fellow cabbies, that he would have me babysit when they were down and out, held him in high regard, he somehow always made more money than anyone regardless of location. he always kept a pistol and a bottle of whisky under the seat, besides polishing… Read more »
@KFG
Good point.
I’d love to see Blax bouncing at a country bar and wearing earphones…a couple of the bouncers at my country bar are black and I chat with both of them. I’ve rarely seen fights at country bars and exactly one each at my regular bar and at the bar I went to last Sat., although the bouncers at the other bar say that they usually have a fight each Sat. night…usually after 1 a.m….but at my regular bar, fights are very rare because the bouncers are so effective at heading off trouble…good management. I’ve seen the bouncers at my regular… Read more »
Lol, you won’t see me bouncing anything other than a basketball. I’m retired from anything having to do with professional physical contact.
“fights are very rare because the bouncers are so effective at heading off trouble…good management.” Tougher DUI laws and social conditioning have more to do with it,the bartender can now be held liable for over serving. “I’ve seen the bouncers at my regular bar hold a guy who stiffed an Uber ” Back in the bad old days,there were bouncers and wanabees, every night there were fights , I’ve seen many men on the ground getting the shit kicked out of them by 7 or more “bouncers”. One night working the door I stopped a guy for strange behavior,kind of… Read more »
Blaximus Growing up the men around me instructed me how to speak/communicate with people as a man. Your parents weren’t divorced, your mother didn’t move you and your sibs halfway across the country cutting off connection with extended family, you were not surrounded by Betaized “yes, dear” men who referred to their wife as “The Boss”, etc. In other words, you grew up in a different country. All those things that you were taught used to be standard. In smalltown flyover where I grew up it was just normal, like the fact that almost every family was intact. I grew… Read more »
WIA I think it’s easier to get laid in 2017, but it’s not easier to learn game. Well, that all depends…on the situations. The younger Millennials and GenZ’s seem to be breaking down along the 80/20 lines. High schoolers go on one “date” and not only are they considered a couple, she better be putting out. So most of the high school girls go out in clumps and herds, as do the young men. Nobody is gonna be getting laid or learning game in that situation. I can’t say if that’s true in college or not, but I sure do… Read more »
“there is no true ” safety “”
“danger is real. fear is not”
““Practice makes….what?” and several old folks said “Perfect!”. Then he smiled and said, “Permanent“. Went on to talk about foundations and proper technique etc.” Which is why, if you are aiming to be an artist, learning how to paint a picture can be a detriment to your development, or even stall it permanently. According to Andrew, N.C. Wyeth made him practice nothing but drawing straight lines for 6 months. When Andrew was a child he hated his father for it. As a mature artist himself he blessed his father for it. I have read that J.S. Bach also made his… Read more »
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-yN6-t-HKw&w=854&h=480%5D
Blax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KXB1XdkxtM
“But there’s that lingering question… whether this is… a little… skeezy. Training men like door to door vacuum salesmen to close a deal with a hot chick”
While PUA teaching may be imperfect,and at times misguided, at least guys are not getting advice from the likes of Terry Moran or Brian Rooney.
@ j Finally got around to reading some of the link you provided with the dude talking about street smarts. Interesting perspective for sure. But this stood out to me right away ( I’m still reading ) – ” I really don’t like the word “street smarts”. Mostly because I am a book smart person. I’ve heard the same refrain self-proclaimed over and over again since high school “I might not get good grades, but at least I have street smarts”. Street smarts is really just a euphimism for doing bad academically. Now I do acknowledge that that there are… Read more »
j – just blasted thru the 180 pages of Sparkman’s “Art of Manipulation” via your link earlier… thanks, it’s a good one so much of what is in that book is RP/game w/out calling it that… it was fun to read along and match RP terminology with the topics in the book; I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that sentient has read it, too…. some of the shit he says is straight outta this book lol; same for what many others say here as well it’s an easy read, big fonts, small pages; real prescriptive, too,… Read more »
Doc Z
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that sentient has read it, too…. some of the shit he says is straight outta this book lol
Haven’t read it, but will take a look. All ‘street smarts”** and natural Machiavellianism and a side of narcissism. Thanks Mom and DD!
and A-B-C.
** – street smarts are also developed in boardrooms, etc.
Boardrooms operate by a set of rules that limit men’s ability to act in indifference or defiance.
It’s an artificial environment operating by made up rules.
Lol. Not at all…
Nothing against boardrooms though….
A guy can develop a ” business ” killer instinct which will serve him well.
… until he runs up on some true killers. ( the odds are remarkably low ).
can’t agree with you blax…. big money and deals where one’s livelihood are on the line will either make you a hard ass motherfucker or a dead one
it’s a jungle, albeit in nice surroundings and nice clothes
@Blaximus
“That was my point about ” saying whatever I want “. You learn how to say whatever you want to say . Communication become a very real and fun thing.”
https://youtu.be/-UCisrvgjlU
“You master being social by being social.”
https://youtu.be/pXTOyBINUW4
How much easier and less trial-n-error would that be for him with mentors and masculine role models… So many Red Pills to accidentally stumble upon…
Yeah that Art of Manipulation pdf that @j linked is solid (I’m listening to my phone reading it while driving; at home I’d prefer a paper copy).
Any other book recommendations gents? Novels with solid characters, well told stories etc. all more than welcome.
Blaximus Book smarts come from books, and street smarts come form somewhere else outside of books. Men should posses a modicum of both. State uni’s now offer non-credit short classes in “etiquette” but what they actually teach are basic table manners and elementary meet & greet politeness. It’s hilarious to see some 30 year old woman in a power suit telling 20 year old students about the importance of a firm handshake. But clearly nobody else has done that, for these middle class young men and women. Last summer I helped some people in a campground get a fire started.… Read more »
IRL
Bonfire of the Vanities. The book.
The Financier. The book.
Blaximus … until he runs up on some true killers. ( the odds are remarkably low ). True. Both counts. Story time. The average holdup man / mugger / etc. isn’t all that smart or dedicated. Many attempted robberies are ended by display of a firearm, or a single shot. Then there are the “high dedication” individuals. Once upon a time there were two high intensity armed robbers in Florida. One way they got new cars was to drive out in the country, find someone plinking at a gravel pit or a sinkhole, then shoot him and take his car… Read more »
@ASD
“Lol, have never seen that. I expect it’s because pimps would never show up in my haunts and I avoid their haunts like the plague. In their haunts, I wouldn’t eyeball back. If they tried that shit in my haunts, the bouncers would deal with them. So they wouldn’t do that shit in my haunts.”
Reckless eyeballing is something totally different…. uh just google it and add pimp and you should get a general gist of the term
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/other-sports/article183044431.html
10k notch count…
IRL
The Prince by Machiavelli.
10k notch count…
Well. On the one hand, WWE wrasslers sometimes exaggerate. On the other hand…
“Let me tell you something, if you’re wrestling and you’re in Hutchinson, Kansas, and you’re gonna spend the night there, I’m gonna find something to do. I’m not going through that night by myself.”
Impressive he’s still alive, really. Some researchers should put dibs on his liver, just to see what it looks like.
grinning as he loaded a magazine into his Ruger Mini 14 in preparation for a gunfight.
I affirm his choice of weapons for a firefight. Reliable, accurate, a high rate of fire, and commonly available ammo.
@AR
He looked directly at two FBI agents, grinning as he loaded a magazine into his Ruger Mini 14 in preparation for a gunfight. He wasn’t just ready. He was enjoying himself.
why wouldn’t he be… when you’re playing ‘big boy rules’, it’s kind of hard to find other dudes to play tag with…lol
good luck!
@ IRL I actually dug the videos. Whenever I have a conversation with a woman, when I decide to talk to/with her, I have absolutely no earthly idea as to what I’m going to say right up until the point my mouth opens and words start coming out. But I expect that a majority of the time, whatever happens is going to be fun. I tried back when Yareally was still around, to go by what some rsd dudes were recommending, but shit it was weird as fuck. Like WIA says, if what you do is working, why change it?… Read more »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jet-set-debt-collectors-join-a-high-stakes-game-hunting-the-superrich-1510070473
Ripped from the Headlines. Street smarts… Who was the smartest?
@ AR ” True. Both counts. Story time. The average holdup man / mugger / etc. isn’t all that smart or dedicated. Many attempted robberies are ended by display of a firearm, or a single shot. When I was in my teens and twenties, firearms weren’t as prevalent as they are today. Muggers and stick up boys usually had to muscle your possessions away from you. Mike Tyson was a street mugger for a short time… can you imaging that shit? For me, back in the day, the South Bronx was the most dangerous place on the planet. It was… Read more »
Re: Rick ” Woooooo!!!!! ” Flair – I am dying to catch that 30 for 30 doc as soon as I have time to sit still and watch.
10K? Well, probably. It’s possible.
But he was always drunk….
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmm-B1j8PhQ&w=1280&h=720%5D
My opener is “Wanna dance” unless I’m deliberately being obnoxious or pranking a girl…then I have something worked up…I may not know the exact words, but I have a general idea…sometimes I just make shit up on the spot…I don’t bullshit much, tho, so it’s typically something from my experience…maybe “Hi, how are you” with an amused mastery smile and dancing eyes and a look up and down…maybe “You look like trouble” with lasering
IRL
Truth being stranger than fiction…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Yerkes
@SJF
“Only one of the six she’s had since we’ve been married gave me asthma and it ran off about 25 years ago ( and
I had nothing to do with that event.).”
———
Isn’t that about when you took up target practice? Ha ha ha…
@Blax/or Anyone
What sort of handgun do y’all recommend?
What sort of rifle?
@All
Thanks to whoever was talking about Franco’s book.
So question
Do low self esteem women withdraw from strong men?
That’s what they contend, but definitions of LSE and and Strong Men are very fuzzy to me.
“What sort of handgun do y’all recommend?
What sort of rifle?”
What sort of wrench do you recommend?
@WIA That’s a loaded question ( he he ) because it depends on what you want the handgun and rifle to do. Plus, guys have personal favorites. I have a pair of colt .45’s, and a pair of 9 mm’s, a glock 19 and a Smith and Wesson. I have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge pump and a bushmaster xm15 ( ar15 ). The bushmaster is the latest addition replacing a ( ancient ) Chinese made ak47. Personally I love the .45, because I’m not too concerned with bullet velocity over stopping power. I also love the bushmaster, but it’s… Read more »
Btw, thank God for the man in Texas that took down that church shooter. I admire his action and wish him well navigating the aftermath.
“Do low self esteem women withdraw from strong men? That’s what they contend, but definitions of LSE and and Strong Men are very fuzzy to me.” Like the gun question ,highly situational. Iwouldn’t say that LSEW’s withdraw rather present with stronger shit tests. All women are attracted to strong men, some may withdraw from a bold presentation. “What sort of wrench do you recommend?” I have always prefered snapon tools, in some situations aikai cheapai can be heated with a torch and bent to the task at hand even the cheap fine china sockets make excellent drivers in most cases.… Read more »
“What sort of handgun do y’all recommend? What sort of rifle?” Or, What sort of wench do you recommend? Really a handgun or rifle suited to the intended purpose. For handguns the purpose might be target shooting or competetive shooting, self defense or hunting. Not to forget the different nature of a revolver vs. pistol and barrel lengths (once again for different purposes). A good thing to do would be to go over to your buddy-that-has-17-handgun’s house and look them over and fondle them. That might narrow down your desires depending on it’s intended function. If you just want to… Read more »
Archie is just demonstrating the opinion opener.
“Archie is just demonstrating the opinion opener.” And I was demonstrating flipping it. That said, for Just Go Out and Buy It for a Baby’s First Arsenal: 1. Glock 19 2. Ruger American .308 3. Mossberg 500 short barrel 20 gauge Bearing in mind that as you gain experience and knowledge as a shooter you are likely to become dissatisfied with one or more of those, so factor that into your resource management plan. Also, you should have a base in .22lr. Maybe another Ruger American and a Mark IV. And always remember, collectors and posers buy guns. Shooters buy… Read more »
“1. Glock 19
2. Ruger American .308
3. Mossberg 500 short barrel 20 gauge”
A pistol to defend yourself, a shotgun to defend your home and a rifle to defend your freedom.
Gun posers. Lol, The first gun I ever purchased was a .44. Why? Because ” Dirty Harry “. The day I came home ( living with my uncle Wilburt at the time in Virginia ) with the gun, my uncle asked me why I needed so much gun, yet I didn’t know how to shoot. I scoffed and told him that at this caliber, I didn’t need to be all that accurate. This mightily angered uncle Wilburt. He stood 10 feet in front of me and asked ” can you hit me from here?”. ” Damn straight ” was my… Read more »
@Archie, Mossberg 500 12-gauge pump-action.
Besides HBs moaning, best sound you’ll ever hear.
I’m a wimpy European. I just have a swiss army knife.
My old man got the .44 Magnum Dirty Harry handgun. Hell of a piece of steel. I preferred holder the .357 Magnum though. He never did trust me with a loaded gun so I never got to fire one.
Blaximus
Btw, thank God for the man in Texas that took down that church shooter. I admire his action and wish him well navigating the aftermath.
In rural Texas there may not be any legal aftermath at all. The DA of that county might give a handshake and thanks, on behalf of the citizenry.
Incidentally, the murderer went after the family of his ex. That’s why he picked that church. Something to contemplate.
@ AR
Agree. Most likely no legal ramifications, but the guy Has to be shaken by taking a life and the feeling of not being able to do more to have saved more lives.
@WIA @All Thanks to whoever was talking about Franco’s book. So question Do low self esteem women withdraw from strong men?. That’s what they contend, but definitions of LSE and and Strong Men are very fuzzy to me. You know what Strong Men are. You probably know a LSE woman when you see him. In the Book Practical Female Psychology by Joseph W. South and Franco, they delved much more into Low and High Self Esteem. But they did it in a somewhat complex, round about way. They intended it as a screening device to not get into a relationship… Read more »
Hot Babes & Self Esteems: https://therationalmale.com/2012/03/29/hb10/ Rollo: “I don’t think that the HB scale is entirely helpful for men’s assessment purposes since it only accounts for physical appeal. There needs to be a second rating attached to the HB (physical) standard, one that accounts for self-esteem SE. If you rate looks (HB) on a 1-10 and self-esteem (SE) on a 1-10 scale, realistically you’ll want different ratios at different times. If you’re sport-fucking and have no desire for a LTR this ratio might be around HB9 to SE3, no lower than this though since a 3 (the way I’d rate… Read more »
@Sentient, @Anonymous
Thanks, added to my list.
@Sentient
“Truth being stranger than fiction…”
Ha!
The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and Other Clinical Tales by Oliver Sacks (for those interested in ‘corner cases’ of psychology/neurology… to better understand ‘the norm’; good summary here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife_for_a_Hat)
Or this one:
Genius by James Gleick (plus Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!). From Blue Pill to DPA… with Manhattan Project, Challenger disaster and everything in between in the background…
http://www.orefind.com/images/default-source/blog-figures/richard_feynman_1965.jpg
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/11538.jpg Richard and I used to work very hard doing physics, but there was never any protocol dictating that the session had to be thus-and-such length of time. Sometimes Richard would suddenly say, “Let’s knock off and go somewhere and fool around!” The usual place we went was a topless bar in Altadena, called Gianone’s. There was always something happening at Gianone’s in the afternoon, every day of the week. We’d walk in, grab a table. Feynman knew everybody there – all the ladies, Gianone the owner, and anybody who was a regular. He would go behind the bar and… Read more »
http://www.nybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/dyson_1-071411.jpg
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/11491.jpg
A TRM case… second wife: Divorce was inevitable – Feynman realized early that they should not have children, he confided in his sister – but it was nearly four years before they finally separated. By agreement he confessed to Extreme Cruelty – “has wilfully, wrongfully, and without provocation, justification or excuse whatsoever inflicted grievous physical and mental suffering … ; plaintiff has suffered great physical pain and grievous mental suffering, and has suffered physical nervous shock to the extent that further married life between plaintiff and defendant has been rendered impossible.” He agreed to a circumscribed alimony, a total of… Read more »
Before Weber. Before Strauss and Mystery, there was Feynman. He eventually moved away from studying pickup because it got too predictable and easy, thus boring. And of course at that point he saw women through red pill glasses. No more Madonnas on pedestals. And I don’t think he ever got over being a NAWALT widower. He did marry a third time and they were together until he died in ’88. She died in ’89. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/richard-feynman-sexism-and-changing-perceptions-of-a-scientific-icon/ Check out Sabatini’s Scaramouche. Ignore the obligatory blue pill ended. It’s purely obligatory. Free at Project Gutenberg. Also the first dozen or so Saint books.… Read more »
““I am an absurd idealist. But I believe that all that must come true. For, unless it comes true, the world will be laid desolate. And I believe that it can come true. I believe that, by the grace of God, men will awake presently and be men again, and colour and laughter and splendid living will return to a grey civilisation. But that will only come true because a few men will believe in it, and fight for it, and fight in its name against everything that sneers and snarls at that ideal.” “ I like this guy already.… Read more »
@SJF
I’m on chapter 7, hence the question.
Note to self, never introduce concept that relies on a concept not introduced yet.
@all
Randomly came across this thread on Reddit
Wife is going through some stuff or whatever and doesn’t let her husband bang for a year.
My first thought is why stick around?
And my second thought is if he was getting some on the side?
Third, what did she do to become less attractive, thus shutting off his natural manliness? What drove him away emotionally?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/7box8j/we_finally_had_sex_again/
Lol at her username
And do read the comments
@KFG
Sabatini’s Scaramouche turned Andre-Louis Moreau into a character that changed several times. He changed from a cynic to idealist. Feynman turned from an idealistic rogue into a cynical rogue.
Charteris had Simon Templar in The Saint embrace his Shadow Self dark side (like Walter White in Breaking Bad) as a Robin Hood like figure.
Idealist turning into cynics and cynics turning into idealists and Robin Hooding are not uncommon Manosphere or Red Pill themes.
Hey I’m a fan of Walter White-ness. I do it all the time.
My first thought is why stick around? And my second thought is if he was getting some on the side? Third, what did she do to become less attractive, thus shutting off his natural manliness? What drove him away emotionally? And a fourth thought: Why in the hell is a husband spooning with his wife when she’s hid the pussy for a whole year? Losing a Whole Year Third Eye Blind Losing a whole year I remember you and me used to spend the whole goddamned day in bed Losing a whole year Lying in your room we’d lay like… Read more »
“ Wife is going through some stuff or whatever and doesn’t let her husband bang for a year.” Well, let me have a swing at this while I’m waiting for the coffee machine to do it’s thing. Guys that haven’t been in a relationship for a long time ( as in 2 years of more ), y’all need to understand some things about women that most men I know never bother to figure out because ” woman shit “, lol. Background: As far as my memory serves me, I haven’t dealt with the ” No Sex ” chick. The closest… Read more »
“Sex between you and a long term partner is 24/7, because for her it’s something that gets stimulated consistently. Become a boring stick in the mud and eventually you will be reduced to dildo-with-heartbeat status before you are cut from the team, or some dude will come off the bench and take your position.” There are certain biological and mental normal ways that people work there from a human perspective, There are certain feed forward and inhibitory cycles that are biological. You take an old dried up pussy and it takes a while to ramp up the feed forward desire… Read more »
@kfg
“[…] at that point he saw women through red pill glasses. No more Madonnas on pedestals.
And I don’t think he ever got over being a NAWALT widower.”
I deliberately wrote DPA instead of Red Pill. I don’t think he ever got rid of the madonna/whore issue. He did not crack this code, too much dog logic.
Added your recommendations to my list, thanks.
Blaximus
Agree. Most likely no legal ramifications, but the guy Has to be shaken by taking a life and the feeling of not being able to do more to have saved more lives.
That’s all up to him, really. Some men I’ve known would have zero “shaken by taking a life” in those circumstances – “he made his choice, I made mine, that’s it” in a nutshell. Given that he stopped a murderer might well make it easier.
@Archie
“My first thought is why stick around?
It’s more common than not, especially when alternatives are not available or seem too risky. It’s a bit like “why stay fat?”. Change is scary… and requires much more energy… Biology and mindset shift gears… closed loop… (‘chicken and egg’ too)
WI Archie
My first thought is why stick around?
A lot of men care about their children. Of course, once they are out of the house, that duty is largely fulfilled. Perhaps that accounts for some of the grey divorces.
You take an old dried up pussy and it takes a while to ramp up the feed forward desire to fuck.
Or you could just pick her up and spin around from time to time. Saves on lube. This one’s on the house.
$5000 for my dried up pussy seminar.
@All
Ain’t nothing in her lead comment about KIDS.
She just didn’t feel like it.
Archie
The problem here is not with her, it’s with the guy. He believes it is OK or he is too [scared, weak, confused, insert adjective] to act differently, to use his own agency, to break the dynamic.
Same thing people hate their jobs, complain about their boss and company but never take a step to change…
Freedom is scary because then you have no one to blame for your situation.
It’s ” dog logic ” to reduce an chicks mental or hormonally induced lack of sex drive/libido to ” didn’t feel like it “. That’s how she may describe it because she isn’t all that sure what’s going on in many cases.
They don’t operate the same way we do.
Also, there’s a distinct difference between ” I’m not fucking you because…” And ” I’ve become depressed and consequently lost my normal sex drive “.
One is a conscious manipulation and the other is mental/hormone driven. There is a difference, and men can bring on either. Lol.
“That’s how she may describe it because she isn’t all that sure what’s going on in many cases.”
How many of us examine the state of our liver to determine what we are going to do?
How many people examine the functioning of their clock’s inner works and undertake a mathematical analysis of them to estimate what time it is?
@Sentient At some point – the guy was “acting right” – and the girl responded accordingly. Why was he doing what he needed to do to get the girl in the place she needed to be? Because he was deeply attracted to her. So his sub-communications at that point were perfect. Deep into the relationship, all that initial rush of novelty and passion is gone. So he doesn’t behave with that same hunger anymore. Not for her specifically, probably just for some trim now and then. Why? Because even though he needs a biological release in terms of banging –… Read more »
@ WIA If a dude doesn’t get the nature of women and how they work, what happens in most cases is ultimately his fault. The fact is, many guys that get into relationships or marriages made not prepared for it. That’s why I’m not real big on NRE stuff. It’s meaningless overall regardless of how good and special it might feel. My grandfather used to say ” if you only want sex from women, getting married is suicide “. Doing things is much different from being things. You do things to attract and bang women, and those are the sub… Read more »
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidslutsclub/comments/7br31x/married_men_are_the_best/
“He asked me how many guys I let fuck me with no condom and I looked at him super innocent and said none. My pussy was so wet knowing he thinks I’m inexperienced. He told me he doesn’t like condoms so he was going to be my first bareback fuck.
I tried to act torn between whether or not I should let him fuck me with no condom.”
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/acting.gif
@ all
Is what j posted above surprising at all?
… Also, does it say anything about 22 year old women in general, or does it point out the possibilities?
Guard. Your. Brains.
Archie
“But she should have been trying to keep herself together.”
If he made that point to her, she would have…
Blax
Is what j posted above surprising at all?
The fact that young chicks like married guys? No.
The “Dear Penthouse Forum” writing style? well no, but yes if you think that was written by a girl. At least a young girl.