For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
…. Man, how did anyone ever get laid prior to Rsd. 😂
@ scars
True, some chicks just don’t want to talk or engage for whatever reason. No harm, no foul.
But that video guy…. From his example of ” pickup “, we can’t draw a conclusion that the girl wasn’t willing to be more open and engaging and receptive because he couldn’t manage to provide any reason for her to do so
@Sentient dr zipper HABD and to also avoid spinning up a guard dog situ… You know you are going to have to explain that… ya, ok…lol guard dog situ… how do you train a guard dog?… you push it a little, and when it ‘fights back’ (pushes back against your frame) you let it ‘win’… next time you push it a little harder, and when it fights back, you resist a little bit, but then you let it win… rinse and repeat until you can break baseball bat over its head and it will still rip your arm off… same… Read more »
@J – I’m bored. Give me a LR from last night if you went out!
@Blaximus
…. Man, how did anyone ever get laid prior to Rsd. 😂
Mystery Method… duh!… do you even read here, bro?…
lol…
good luck!
thx habd, I get where you’re coming from, and it’s a good place to start for general advice; it doesn’t quite fit my circumstances but only because I’m the only one here that knows all the little details about my particular situation….it’s hard to tailor advice w/out knowing all the measurements lol but yeah, generally speaking, I’m not trying to antagonize or stir shit up with her but I’m sure not going to go for appeasement from fear of retaliation or custody battles… can’t and won’t happen to have fear is normal and serves an invaluable purpose in life —… Read more »
*Blax opens link. Scrolls down and see the word “RSD” * http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/238/907/8cb.gif Ya is basically telling them the same thing you’re saying: “what is it about you and your approach that’s gonna make an impression and an impact, straight out of the box? For example, personally I never approach a strange woman ( or anyone under 80 ) by saying ‘ excuse me ‘ or some such. Also, to my mind, if your going to bother talking to a chick for 5 minutes or longer, why just stand in one spot like a statue? Sure, he’s making weird hand gestures… Read more »
Still expecting some post like RSD bangs the deaf and blind school,big score, panty raid.
“trying to convince her and”
Anything like logic doesn’t work.
“sell yourself”
Presentation,approach, push pull and setting yourself up as a scarce commodity,sell works.
“and get her to make a logical decision to fuck you” doesn’t work”
Even a woman you have fucked a 1000 times isn’t going to make a logical decision to fuck. it is always about emotion and feels.
@dr zipper but yeah, generally speaking, I’m not trying to antagonize or stir shit up with her but I’m sure not going to go for appeasement from fear of retaliation or custody battles… can’t and won’t happen are you a sperg?…lol… but serious question… bc this seems like all or nothing thinking… ie lacking calibration… AND this isn’t about you…lol… it’s about HER feelz… as basic gate-keeper to an exclusive product that you want to have/maintain access to… there is a huge difference between antagonism/stir shit up OR appeasement from fear… and properly calibrated positive interaction… with your ex… the… Read more »
lol, thanks habd, I’ll take it from here
your time and thoughts are helpful and appreciated
@habd luckily?…why so?… was this guy really a ‘threat’?…lol… was the ex-gf really the prize?… the FI wants that to be true… ooor are YOU the prize?… again… was this guy really a ‘threat’ to you?… serious question… bc if not, THAT feeling/habit/expectation is the FI pushing on you… I used luckily because the guy was obnoxious and was trying way too hard (but didn’t know what he was doing) and I wasn’t happy to be there. As soon as I saw the guy I knew he wasn’t a threat (granted, I’m no cat but he was gross). Sounds like… Read more »
@HABD – I’ve seen you mention “guard dog situ” many times, so thank you for the explanation. So you’re basically saying when dealing with women (esp those you see regularly, or in an LTR etc) that you shouldn’t get into a situation where you “train” her into believing that escalating her shit tests gets her what she wants – which is the message she will takehome if you get into a cycle where you eventually give in to her every challenge/shit test, but each time you resist more before giving in (because you are trying to hold your frame and… Read more »
Culum Struan to habd you shouldn’t get into a situation where you “train” her into believing that escalating her shit tests gets her what she wants – which is the message she will takehome if you get into a cycle where you eventually give in to her every challenge/shit test, but each time you resist more before giving in (because you are trying to hold your frame and become more red pill) . I’m not habd but that’s how I understand it. This is even more critical in any LTR / marriage because of normal life changes. A man gets… Read more »
Well, major italic fail in previous post. The first paragraph is C.S. to habd. FWIW.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AtiliusRegulus/status/930874560353914880
Only ugly women are flipping out over the MakeApp lol
Great game tactics to use
“Hold on a second. Let me run the MakeApp on you real quick lol
https://twitter.com/AtiliusRegulus/status/930874560353914880
Thanks @AR – I’ve downloaded the Biology of Desire just now – looks real interesting.
Train your women. If they strenuously resist training because strong and independent, cut your losses and jet. ” Training ” might sound demeaning, so refer to the neural pathways thing AR speaks of above. This stuff can be a tall order because our upside down society rewards and overlooks women’s sometimes shitty behavior, so you might just be a lone voice in the wilderness/her life trying to rewire and hack her operating system. Yet with the inate nature of what women actually long for, this can be a great advantage. There was a few times in life where I’ve had… Read more »
… Damn tablet
@Blaximus
Great advice on training and frame.
Blaximus
” Training ” might sound demeaning, so refer to the neural pathways thing AR speaks of above.
Meh. Reading the ASPCA book on dog training would be a good start.
Blaximus
… Damn tablet
We all know that’s the lemonade talking…
Culum
or her stabbing you with the kitchen knife or whatever.
Lol, That was HABD’s exemplar… Motivation to be bold and win.
Great stuff brought up you guys. The Biology of Desire, Operant Conditioning, Guard Dog Situ. Training is not demeaning. Everybody benefits from it. “It’s a good idea to work on calming her roiling ocean of negative emotions with strength and resolve, but under no circumstance are you to ever ” give in ” for the sake of having peace, lol.” I went through the process of Married Red Pill Game over the past four and a half years. The first year, I was reminded by a buddy about the concept of shit testing. I mean I had heard of it… Read more »
palmasailor This is where BP guys go badly wrong. She “hits the roof” over some shit and he apologises / gives in (happy wife happy life blah blah..) and hey presto she learned that this level of shit behaviour gets her pellet. Ding! I believe habd points out that shutting these shit tests down means standing up to every single button-pushing trick in her Rolodex because…. The rat went exponentially more bonkers pressing the button to get the pellet to no effect until it just stopped and gave up as it didn’t work anymore. …that’s what she’ll do. So the… Read more »
If you inadvertently crack before the end of the burst you will set that level as the new norm to achieve the reward or “pellet” This is where BP guys go badly wrong. She “hits the roof” over some shit and he apologises / gives in (happy wife happy life blah blah..) and hey presto she learned that this level of shit behaviour gets her pellet.</blockquote Great job of synthesizing the idea Palmasailor. Excellent way to explain it… I can look back on how many times I didn't crack via Stoicism and/or especially not Buffering. The biggest laugh over an… Read more »
“Standing up to a shit test is not necessarily passing it.”
Yes. Using it to your advantage is the correct avenue in Game.
@Palmasailor I get what you mean. Good point. It was nuanced, but was almost a tease of the girl in saying “Sorry, I’ve not been more curious about you, Little Girl….” It did trigger her, but I was in my Zan Perrion Frame and doing it from a Frame of strength. It was humorous the way it went down, as I realized after the fact and was calibrating in real time. It was a Tell that we all know what’s going on in your soul the last couple weeks, little girl. Not overt communication, but 4D chess sub-communication. It turned… Read more »
Friday night here we go
https://youtu.be/CjVkplphsBU
looking forward to a fun LR, @J!
My life is so much better with women in it….than without
“Then when she runs her entire Rolodex and it fails, eventually she has to try something else, like submitting .” after reading this and the few preceding comments, I might have come to a better understanding of my own particular situation, maybe someone else can learn from it I have been in RP school for a few years now (I keep getting held back, like the 13yro 3rd grader lol) and up until about a year ago things seemed to be going great in moving the wife along in the same direction… really thought it was all going to work… Read more »
might consider this a viable option from her childhood or adult experiences, especially if she’s not the first generation in her family to have this point of view; like welfare, once these mindsets get entrenched across generations, it becomes the new ‘normal’ and quite difficult to break out of zipper — Yes, which is why if you are in the marriage game prior history of divorce in her family (her, her siblings, her parents, grandparents, extended family) is something to really think hard about. I’m not talking a couple of divorces from more extended relatives. I mean significant amounts of… Read more »
@scars
Haha. Sorry man didn’t pull last night. The way I frame my Friday’s to my wings is they don’t count. They are just preparation/practice for Saturday. So let’s just go out have fun and try new shit. BUT hey if I do find an attractive girl and pull on Friday, that’s pretty cool cause I wasn’t really expecting to pull, this was just practice for tomorrow.
Haven’t posted a comment, FR lately. I pray all are well. I’ve been dealing with some personal issues and need a honest ear. This is the place. After a successful reconstruction of my marriage, my life was seemingly going well. Mrs. and I were happily spending the dividends of the hard work. Me alpha-ing up, she learning to celebrate femininity. She and I enjoyed our company, love, commitment so much so people couldn’t believe we were married; married couples aren’t this happy and overtly romantic. She and I were particularly excited one weekend. I take her downtown for drinks and… Read more »
Intellect – Nice to see you back, even if under a temporary cloud. Lots of men here have learned some good information from you even as you were learning from them, and here is another example. Given your explanation of the circumstances I don’t really see where you had too many options once it began, particularly against those kinds of odds. People that haven’t been in many uncontrolled situations don’t realize how fast things can accelerate and default to instinctual actions. Getting zeroed out in the parking lot by a mob wouldn’t have helped Mrs. either. At least you were… Read more »
@EhIntellect – sorry to hear about the turmoil man. You seem to have some equanimity about it which is good, and it’s also great that your marriage is solid. This is a great place to vent and talk about what happened and to process it for yourself mentally. I have no specific advice to offer, but two thoughts: 1. I assume you spoke to a good attorney before taking the plea. 2. This is not meant as an attack on you at all, but there is clearly something about you and your vibe that is triggering confrontational behaviour from the… Read more »
@Intellect Where were your friends at the bar? Did you fail to establish social proof and make friends? There are men who would have my back in a situation like you described. Did you fail to befriend the bouncers and establish a good rep? You always, always, always have to befriend the bar staff, especially at a new bar. “the jailers tell her I don’t want to talk to her.” Jailers and cops lie a lot. I’ve worked with cops, so I know a bit about them. They fear lawyers, especially lawyers who have worked for the police dept. If… Read more »
EhIntellect — Well, crap — that’s terrible to hear. Very frustrating. Couple of points. Is it only DUI or something else you copped a plea to? Did you have lawyer on the DUI hearing? In any case, as you learned the hard way, as a guy, you never, ever, ever approach the cops. The cops are not there to help you, as a man. They’re just not. They’re there to contain you, not help you. You avoid them to the extent you can (sometimes you can’t). I understand the desire to avail of them here in the confusion with your… Read more »
@Eh Was wondering what happened to you man. If you are like me you have probably mulled this over but here goes. Good on ya for not taking a gun after those fools. Never put yourself at the mercy of a judge just because you are in the right, a judge is just a lawyer that has to follow the rules. If you are drinking and driving avoid the police at all cost,best not to dwai. Next time god forbid get a lawyer that worked for or was the DA in the district of court venue. You may be able… Read more »
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DAD218W/ref=kinw_myk_ro_title
I’ve not read the book, but James Duane has a superb video on Youtube, which was I think the inspiration for the book. Well worth watching “Don’t Talk to Police”
https://mikespassingthoughts.wordpress.com/2017/11/04/thoughts-on-the-progression-of-expression-aspects-of-creativity/
@EhIntellect: good to read you again albeit with bad news. That woman–wtf? Any surveillance in or outside the venue your lawyer can use?
Thank you for your replies. I, my wife, didn’t know her, but she may have recognized us. My rep there is stellar but it was just me and Mrs. and it happened outside. We o went back to collect statements one afternoon. The bartender was angry about our story and banished one of our attackers she knew as habitual trouble. Little comfort. Never, never again. We’ve kept a safe distance from that area and upped the venue quality a lot, use cabs. The aggression level is lower. Culum is right, I come off really, really confident and have since toned… Read more »
Law enforcement is awesome. All of them, all the time, in every circumstance. If you’re doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear from the police. Only criminals get shit from cops and, let’s face it, they deserve it amiright? Cops ( all ) put their lives on the line to serve and protect all of us every single second of every single day. All praise due. *** sarcasm off *** @ ASD You are making a grave mistake in thinking that others are ever going to save you from trouble ( including the police ). Guys still don’t get… Read more »
@Eh
There is nothing wrong with being an alpha provider.
@Blax You are making a grave mistake in thinking that others are ever going to save you from trouble ( including the police ). your mileage may vary I was accused of stealing a watch as a kid…someone gave me a watch to hold and it was found in my gym bag and I didn’t know what was going on and said that another kid had asked me to keep it for him. Didn’t even know that I was snitching. I was accused of driving with expired tags and I explained to the judge that I was going thru a… Read more »
“I’ve had friends and family held in jail for up to 72 hours without formal charges ( because they broke no laws”
Happened to me like 2 weeks ago lol . Most boring 3 days ever . Was leaving grabbed my shit and one of the officers said ” we really appreciate your cooperation.”
I was like
https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oAt2dA6LxMkRrGc0g/200.webp#0-grid1
bummer
I always keep this vision of incarceration for a healthy reminder.
https://goo.gl/images/fdsEGt
Women
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0272581/mediaviewer/rm3817269248
Lips
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4912910/mediaviewer/rm2843354880
The beauty
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4912910/mediaviewer/rm3078235904
Ehintellect
Culum
Eh is probably good looking and a cocky asshole and his wife is probably good looking and into him. If they are being physical this will trigger both ugly women and white knights. If his demeanor adds fuel to the fire, you get bigger fires. 🔥
Eh you posted a very similar report where a mixed group held your wife. Maybe Doctor Zipper can find it with his gizmo? Wonder if this is that same place.
Also all criminal defense lawyers are not created equal. Find a good one and befriend for DUI, assault, other similar crimes. He will be plugged in to all sides, cops, detectives, dispatch, prosecutors and judges. Keep on speed dial.
Same for white collar stuff.
A well timed call from plugged in lawyers can avoid a lot of the system.
“what I believe may have happened is that she played this nuclear option as a last resort to bring me around but all I did was accept her decision and move ahead… no arguing or trying to persuade her to change her mind; she painted herself in a corner… to ‘submit’ to me was too much for a modern woman with her JD and lifetime of grrrl power indoctrinations” Doc I want you to pass this year’s class. The lesson is not avoid divorced women because they have another card… It is to be leading, not following. Because she can… Read more »
@ Sentient Different places, different towns. The first mixed group didn’t want me driving after we were affectionate in a bar. The second group thought me an abusive ogre after we were affectionate on the dance floor. Both mixed groups were led by a woman standing by, making accusations. She directed it, watching it unfold, white knights followed along. I explained the same all to Mrs. as she was bewildered why this was happening again. You know that night I was really happy, social. It was fun conversation until the last 10″. Social proof? I walk in that night and… Read more »
“Knowing RP doesn’t make living it easier?”
I mentioned before that the average lifespan of a pre-Christian Irish King (a meritocratic culture of trial by combat) was three years.
As you rise in power, the world turns more of its attention toward you and becomes more dangerous.
As you gain speed, the race doesn’t get easier, it gets faster.
Jed McKenna, who Andy has cited, began writing books about what enlightenment is really like and ended writing books on how to avoid it, because you don’t want to be there and face what the world will throw against you.
Whoa Subcomms > looks on display in a mainstream commercial:
pause at 0:18 lol
Fairly rough night for me. Hope you have a nice LR for us @J!
@scars
That sucks man. I had to stay in unfortunately. My contact lenses were really irritating my eyes lol. Wish I was out there.
Creepy Dancing Field Report I went salsa dancing and got to the bar about 10:30…haven’t danced salsa there in a year…I’m rusty… I danced with several women–some hot and some not. One very hot girl is a lot of fun and not picky about partners. Another hot girl ran her hand along my back as she passed behind me. Just saying that she wanted me to ask her to dance. I didn’t, lol, but there was a reason… I had asked a woman to dance, but she had already promised that dance to another guy. No problem. She came and… Read more »
I’ve had worse nights tbh, so not feeling too shitty, really. 10 approaches. 8 of them wasn’t even really able to ‘hook’ after the open. 1 of the approaches I was able to finally hook (something about the environment gave me something to ‘riff’ with) and we started talking back and forth a bit, but I couldn’t get her attracted to me enough, and my escalation was rejected and she bailed. On the last approach it was fucking sickening, lol. I decided to go direct as i’d been beaten up so much that night so as I was about to… Read more »
forgot the @J in the post above
@scars
You did ten more approaches than most men…..
It’ll click sooner or later
Also try not to take things personal once you get good everything changes (You’ll see what I mean)
@everyone: a crappy FR so that you know what you should not do in multiple ways. I really need to ramp up going out at night on my own city. I’m buffering. It is a big city no one will know or remember me. I will have some trips to go practice in a setting where I’m less worried of someone knows me. Anyway you can guess who it was with: e-mail saga girl. Last time I went in for the K, didn’t get it. Stayed in touch, dialed back contact and decided I should get friend zoned. Since that,… Read more »
@scars “I couldn’t get her attracted to me enough, and my escalation was rejected and she bailed.” That’s good that you’re able to recognize when a girl isn’t attracted enough. But the move isn’t to go into A3 (escalation). that’s not going to end well lol. You need to keep DHVing. if it’s clearly not going anywhere just open a set beside you. Spike that chick self amusing (“excuse me that was very rude of you to eavesdrop. “what I wasn’t ev…” “don’t lie that was fucked up. So let me get this straight: you like to eavesdrop intimate conversations… Read more »
@scars
I’m sure you’ve seen this clip 2:00 – 17:00
IAS
“I get sexually aroused from hand holding, just like a teenager”
ermmmm. So does she. Ya know?
Really could have pushed this way further. Don’t feel guilty for liking her and enjoying the process.
But this is strike two. You need to focus on laying her next time. Escalate!
IAS
I mean you’re supposed to like her… Lol.
@Scars – you did well dude. I thought that was a really good FR. Sure there was room for improvement (plus some bad luck), but the fact is you went out there and you took Action and you’re getting better. You can only control your actions (not the results) and you did very well on that front. PS – On the “handsome foreign dude” thing – you should read the stuff in YaReally’s archive about going out with better looking guys and amog-ing good looking guys. As you get better, it’s interesting because you’ll be able to take over the… Read more »
@Culum “I was unfortunately pretty drunk by this point so not clearest thinking” Gonna be a dick but you won’t reach the next step (banging HB7+ girls from cold approach at least semi regularly) if you’re out getting wasted dude. You need to be able to think strategically to be able to turn those approach invites into bangs. My first year going out, I drank a lot cause I was nervous going out solo. I had some makeouts here or there, (mostly caveman game lol) but I didn’t know what I did right or wrong the next day (I also… Read more »
@j – absolutely dude, I agree. Last night it’s more that my wing kept buying me drinks and talking about his love life troubles instead of approaching so I was pretty drunk already by the time he left. When I start the night solo (or even with a wing – the main benefit is the state boost vs going solo), it’s really a trade-off between boosting my state (which alcohol OR a wing does) and losing out on the flexibility of going solo and the clarity of staying sober or vice versa. I can and do go out solo (probably… Read more »
dr zipper although this was my first marriage, she’d been married before (must also mention she, like me, comes from a broken family of multiple divorces); what does this mean? it means that her Rolodex has yet one more card… the divorce, blow-it-all-up-if-he-doesn’t-put-the-leash-back-on option that she knows is survivable, albeit inconvenient That’s just rotten. Part of vetting but you didn’t know that at the time. What she doesn’t know is her odds of replacing you with an equivalent are very poor, whereas your outcome in a few years is likely to be better. Doesn’t make the current situation any better.… Read more »
@Culum “it’s really a trade-off between boosting my state (which alcohol OR a wing does” OR option 3 (which doesn’t require a wing/alcohol AND you have the “flexibility of going solo and the clarity of staying sober”): self amuse to get into state. Ya: “self-amusing is supposed to be something you do regardless of whether you’re in state or not because the self-amusement aspect of it is what PUTS you in state. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4zhbqj9WFU the jist is basically: when you’re out of state, if you say stuff that’s funny to YOU, for the sake of amusing yourself, even if the girl… Read more »
Thanks @j – I’ve seen that video before, but the explanation is helpful
Random aside
Out at a bar with wife. Seated at the bar having a bite. I feel something on my lower leg and look down and say “oh… That’s your foot”. She says ” huh. Is that how it usually happens? You were expecting someone else’s foot?”. Me ” [shrug] Well… “.
Lol.
@EhIntellect Welcome back, man. If it weren’t so tragic it would be comic. It does tend to be comic because of the second mob bitch. What the fuck? 90% of the underlying story doesn’t make sense (as PalmaSailor called it out) on just what the fuck triggered the incident. You are one of my heroes for running with Married Red Pill Game before you had this setback. I have a lot of respect for your attitude. Which inevitably got you in trouble. Go figure. Truth be told, I figured the reason you stopped posting was ’cause you got in trouble.… Read more »
Bottom Line EhIntellect:
You need affirmation (besides the DUI) that you are doing Married Red Pill Correctly. Which you are. And most of the commenters have attested to that.
Don’t doubt yourself. I know you are not. Keep to the script.
@j Whoa Subcomms > looks on display in a mainstream commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvAPBUdrYBI Not quite. The tall guy extended his hand outward while both hands on the other guy were full. He’s not thinking clearly. Break-up was recent? She did it? Let’s see her smug mace, check. Yep. She did it. Let him down gently. It can happen since he’s stupid too. Holding his hand out like that established this. Also. The current boyfriend’s not fat and disgusting. It doesn’t count. And the side of beef-queef was the first to say something to HER. So she’s the queen of them BOTH.… Read more »
@yollo “Holding his hand out like that established this.” I didn’t think it was because he was stupid. Big guy didn’t care that little guy had he’s hands full. He just fully expected him to shake his hand anyway cause that’s what’s suppose to happen. Social conditioning says being tall and muscular makes you alpha duh. So when little guy doesn’t submit to social pressure + does something completely unexpected zero fucks given and then has the cojones to look at big guy dead in the eyes with a shit eating grin no fear that he’s gonna do something about… Read more »
Field Report Unexpected girl reaction–why???? I was at a crowded restaurant with a tour group waiting for a table and seated on a bench beside Mrs. Gamer…other side was a machine…doing some eye flirting with a 40ish girl who was with some guy–not in our group…that girl comes over with the guy and she leans against the machine with her ass about three feet from my face…she leaves for her table with her guy…so I was kind of in state…later a 30ish hottie (HB8) walks in and I notice her and look at her a bit and her head snaps… Read more »
@EhIntellect Just watched “The Innocent Man” where an innocent man gets fucked over by the cops, the guards, the inmates…the system. Be glad you weren’t that guy. “Bare is the back which has no brother.” Make friends with guys when you go to a new place. If there’s a confrontation inside, expect one outside and plan accordingly. Inside is safer than outside because friends. Roll with the punches and be the first to call the cops. If you end up in a fight with multiple guys, you can use a weapon in my state…if you are jumped by multiple guys,… Read more »
Lol. There’s a whole other universe out there Wrt to that commercial and how/what social conditioning or whatever, says people react to stuff, or how they are supposed to react. It’s revelatory and explains a lot. @ all I read eh’s story 3 times, and I don’t get why what happened took place, or what led up to it. It sounds 100% crazy to me. So I got nothing except that if people are constantly fucking with you and attacking you and wanting to fight, you need to move or master your environment. At the very least you need to… Read more »
ASD ” everybody’s got a plan until they get punched in the face ” Mike Tyson. Seems you’ve given this a lot of thought. Good for you. Newbs reading along – a plan to survive a random assault can’t include ” I’m gonna call the cops “. Cops can’t transport and materialize instantly to your location to render assistance. Most times, they show up after the fact. Being social includes more that talking to, and picking up women, lol. Just as calibration is required when engaging chicks, it’s also required in your environment in general. Bars and clubs by definition… Read more »
….cause as I get older, weaker and slower, it’s gonna be all that I can muster to just have the ability to defend myself. Strangers will be shit out of luck very shortly.😊
https://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/4085929908120835/
LOL, awalt.
“Cops can’t transport and materialize instantly to your location to render assistance.”
And in any case aren’t your personal army. They aren’t a crime prevention squad, they are a crime clean up squad.
So even if they show up they may just stand around until it’s all over, i.e. when crimes have actually been committed, and then arrest everyone who survives on some charge or other (You may think you were defending yourself. They may think you were participating in a criminal altercation).
Thank you for writing. Within the bar…after I dance with the other woman…Mrs. tells me a guy asked her if she feels safe with me. She said yes, we’re fine. She tells me this immediately after I was away, then the screaming woman, me thinking a bit about it, then we left. There were wobbly moments I admit. Moments of intense pressire…new job, away from home, then this. I kept in mind that my reaction was yet in my control and focused there. I never lost faith in RP, it guided me. Read Greene”s Power again. That helped, was clatifying.… Read more »
AR – she had already been divorced for several years before we got hooked up; she and I were an item for 3-4 yrs before we married; at the time, I *was* consciously vetting; because she already had a kid, I got to see her mothering skills and she did very well with that…. she is smart, good looking, educated and socially savvy… someone to proudly be at my side; we got along great and we have much in common I was wanting to get it all lined up before committing to a woman for marriage and children…. I wanted… Read more »
Blax ” everybody’s got a plan until they get punched in the face ” Mike Tyson. I’ve been punched in the face plenty of times, lol. Lots of bloody noses. I’m a counterpuncher from way back. Newbs reading along – a plan to survive a random assault can’t include ” I’m gonna call the cops “. Cops can’t transport and materialize instantly to your location to render assistance. Most times, they show up after the fact. +1 Of course, for legal and NOT self-defense reasons, it’s smart to be the first to call the cops. Being social includes more that… Read more »
@CatchersIndifference props on putting in the work!… couple quick points… I mostly settle for the number due to my logistics being sub optimal at the moment. settle… I live 30+ minutes away from where I meet women but have had 100% conversion rate by Day 3. I think SNL is my new plateau for personal growth just like kissing girls pre 3rd date used to be. Even thought I’ve read tons of LR’s where guys are bagging girls the same night there’s part of me that won’t believe it until I do it myself. even then, you still might need… Read more »
@scars – interesting that it sounds like you had a good shot with the last girl before you got thrown out and possibly amog’d as that was the one who you opened DIRECT and showed intent and interest before she did which is technically wrong. I saw a guy open a girl in classic civilian way last night (I was standing next to the girl at the time, taking stock of my approaches that night so heard most of it) and he opened like ”Hey, how’s your night going?” she said fine. He asked her all of the classic normal… Read more »
@ SJF “I went red pill and now I’m where I am at right here and now.” I was and am in a good place, though now a different place. I thought, read a lot about the Anna Karenina principle, Red Queen, antifragilty. I stressed losing faith and focused on keeping as much yardage I’d gained, kept the relationship MRP. The isolation was painful at times but know Mrs. was grateful for my leadership, even up to taking the plea, though she would’ve liked to see the cops explain many witness inconsistencies, sloppy police work. Fine, classes, insurance hike, OL.… Read more »
@EhIntellect
“Ultimately this is a speedbump in a hopefully long life. I know this. If anything, I’m much better a husband, friend, father and peer for this experience. I can speak with authority about it.
SJF, I might call or write. Thank you.”
Amen brother, I like, admire and respect your style.
It would be fun to talk over fight club with you. I just created a new burner Gmail acct. email me. user name: inscrutablemastermind.
Finally some time to post a FR. I follow a routine that @palmasailor recommended: change venues 2-3 times and escalate kino at each bounce, solid. I abandoned the wallet gambit altogether, felt like a weasel move. I want them to follow me because they can’t resist. It was time to up my game… I meet this girl near a train station, plenty of people there in the evening. I tease her and joke, she giggles and plays along. I throw in a few role playing hoops, all fun and giggles, she jumps through. She shares my sense of humor and… Read more »
Old school infield clip + breakdown by Mystery protégé, Sinn. Masterful thought process:
@IRL
DiCarlo Escalation Ladder…you missed the mutual belly rubbing
https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/hlmra/dicarlo_escalation_ladder_concise_and_emphasized/?st=iuk3w7jq&sh=c3d02372
There’s an escalation ladder?
Really?
Will wonders never cease.
Is there a calibration step stool that one uses before scaling the escalation ladder?