For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@dr zipper habd – already been doing the RP journey for the last few years (wow, slow learner) and been doing my best to be a working model for my boy, in fact I’ve mentioned before he’s the main reason for my formally entering into this RP endeavor… I had to become the man I’d want him to be; when we’re together I make sure it’s RP all the way and we make a game of pointing out the BP bullshit, even if I don’t label it as such; I prefer to teach it as conceptual rather than a rote… Read more »
Thanks fellas.
@Dr. Zipper Do you want your ex to be amenable to your wishes? Or an obstructive cunt? Do you want her to give you access to your kids? Or a cunt who makes sharing custody difficult? Do you want your ex to not take your stuff? Or do you want her to divorce-rape you? Do you want to be on bad terms with your ex so that being at your son’s wedding has awkward moments? Maybe even hook up with her when other options aren’t available? (cause girls do that a lot with ex’s) Game her. Make sure she likes… Read more »
habd – good stuff on the breakdown; from your feedback I can see how I come across as being kinda negative on the failure thing…. to me, failure is what happens when a goal is not realized as planned, not that it can’t be done; I will still attain that goal of raising a badass motherfucker, just not according to the original plan but yeah, I gotta stop flogging myself; it happens in the dark moments, like the other day when he went to stay with the ex for the first time and many thanks to the others that gave… Read more »
Scars
Here is the thing man, Jeffy is following MM all the way. You need to understand that to really be able to get his results. He is telling you this.
So…. Go back to the FR you wrote and answer the questions
Since you’ve “read” MM, you know what to do here right?
“What’s that? Why?
Think…. “
J – give us a little mini FR on the fast pull! I assume you run direct game? Make your intentions clear from the get go as opposed to indirect/mystery stuff?
@Scars: going direct is still Mystery Method when it works. You can go A1-A3 to the bang very quickly (not that I have done it). I remember once when YaReally decomposed the A1-A3 in a brief encounter I had in the Disco, I didn’t even talk to the girl. It was like A1 (approach/opener) I was in the dance floor A2 (IOI, female to male interest) she started dancing closer to me A3 (male to female interest) I rewarded her with some kino. It can be even more subtle than that, but it is a higher percentage play if you… Read more »
@scars It’s all MM…even relationship game. Example from my interaction with Mrs. Gamer…a field report I’d noticed that Mrs. Gamer had stopped initiating sex for several months, though she was generally compliant and eager…not a chore. So I said, “I noticed you haven’t initiated sex for several months. I guess I’ve been too beta. Too much beta behavior.” Her look said, “What kind of drugs have you been taking?” lol Of course, she soon initiated sex after that. Do you see what was going on? Forcing her to upqualify me…and I qualified her as not initiating sex…it’s MM game all… Read more »
Newly Good effort… Some tips “Out of nowhere, that bartender girl comes over.” haha… Not out of nowhere she saw the girl was getting into you. Use this kind of thing to know you are getting attraction and you can back of the overgaming. ” “So you’re not married then.“ I answer, “It’s complicated.”” This is a wishy washy answer. I’d either own it straight up “Oh yeah” and then smash the shit test that follow with stuff like “well I’m not like anyone you’ve ever met. I see what i want and I take it… The heart wants what… Read more »
@dr zipper habd – good stuff on the breakdown; from your feedback I can see how I come across as being kinda negative on the failure thing…. to me, failure is what happens when a goal is not realized as planned, not that it can’t be done; I will still attain that goal of raising a badass motherfucker, just not according to the original plan you are still not getting the concept…lol… (although it IS really hard to grasp when the FI is pushing on you sooo hard… and i probably haven’t been explaining with sufficient pedantic thoroughness…lol) what part… Read more »
@newly
Cosign Sentient (even though I don’t admit extramarital shit).
Compliance test whenever you’re not sure of a girl’s state. Do it a lot. If you get five compliance test passes in a row, pull. Follow the IOI/IOD routine like Sentient says.
Gratz on making a play and following your mission. A milestone reached.
@zipper
to me, failure is what happens when a goal is not realized as planned
The goal was a Blue Pill fantasy and was only achievable in Blue Pill fantasy land which exists only in Neverland. So the failure only exists in Neverland as well.
You was drugged with the Blue Pill all…the…way…down.
scars haha. I only share LRs when I ran some excellent game that I wanted to share on here. This girl was very down to fuck. So not much game was required for this 8 minute pull. Here’s a shitty mini LR: I Approached this girl immediately after leaving a set of two girls (which I’m sure she noticed because she was standing nearby). She was instantly receptive (looked bored at first). Then I noticed her drink was almost empty so I took it from her hand and finished it and said lets get a drink to isolate her from… Read more »
slayer! 🙂 keep it up.
habd – okay, maybe the ‘plan’ needs to be defined; the plan was to raise my son/children in a stable 2-parent RP paradigm household… that’s not BP/FI and you will never convince me otherwise; blax is doing it and sentient is doing it so I know it can be done and they’ve served as excellent guides, among others the failure part is in the execution the the plan…. poor vetting and wife/family management based on BP/FI influences is where it fell apart…. again, it’s all on me to have my shit in line first, but I didn’t; no self-flagellation, just… Read more »
@zipper
If you’re relying on vetting, then you’re betting on failure…if you have hand, that’s enough…you have to train most girls
I’ve been posting for several years about using Dread every weekend…did you follow my example? If not, then you were still in a Blue Pill fantasy…Blax uses dread alla time if you read between the lines…I’m just more overt about it than Blax…what did you do differently?
@dr zipper habd – okay, maybe the ‘plan’ needs to be defined; the plan was to raise my son/children in a stable 2-parent RP paradigm household… that’s not BP/FI and you will never convince me otherwise; blax is doing it and sentient is doing it so I know it can be done and they’ve served as excellent guides, among others the failure part is in the execution the the plan…. poor vetting and wife/family management based on BP/FI influences is where it fell apart…. again, it’s all on me to have my shit in line first, but I didn’t; no… Read more »
habd, the discussion has stalled; I’ll take the parts that make sense to me, of which there is quite a lot; the rest would take too much time correcting assumptions and filling in details from which even more misunderstandings would happen…. not worth it; some things are best discussed over a couple of beers….. you in the Rockies area? lol
thanks again for the help
@Sentient:
https://youtu.be/xUA2EzzWAC4?t=1m12s
* Don’t ask, tell – dammit, I KNEW that!
* “She says, “Sorry, I don’t kiss married men.”
Shit test… You plow here “that’s awesome… Me neither.” – dammit, I though about that line right afterwards!
Opportunity squandered, but I’ll shake the rust off, man. No better way to learn this shit than by doing the grind.
Is there where someone would post to have a lot of shit unpacked and given some honest feedback, even if it has nothing to do with field reports?
I have a bad habit of living inside of my head and need someone else other than my only friend to give me something new to work on since I know I’m stuck and need help.
Thanks in advance.
Omega
Post away… But for the love of Zeus change that fucking handle…
Being self aware is great. Fetishizing your snowflake status not so much.
I’m just gonna let this whole thing rip and see where it leads then instead of trying to bullet point it out like I originally tried. I’m almost 34 years old, 5’10”, just under 260 lbs. Divorce ended over 5 years ago, and I just now wrenched full custody over my daughter since the ex decided following her vagina tingles with her “first true love” back to her hometown 3 states away was better than being around her child. I still live with my parents to help cut down on the bills and to help raise her. I also work… Read more »
“How necessary is a social media presence? I hate facebook and don’t really have enough going on to justify keeping an account open when the only people I care about are already a phone call away. I always just view fakebook as some lame excuse for people to lie their pants off about how shitty their life actually is and don’t want people to know, or to post some useless fodder that would be better off having people over to talk about face to face and hash it out live.” In my experience, your view is correct. I know a… Read more »
where’s asd when you need him? prolly putting on his fucking cape lol
@Enilias
“4. Am I making too big a deal out of a lot of this?”
All that matters is that you’re making progress and doing better than yesterday. Physically Mentally Spiritually all of it.
You can do anything…. You just gotta tell yourself you can….(well then work hard af to make it happen)
Online dating is an oxymoron.
No you don’t need Facebook.
No you don’t need a degree.
You do need to pull your shit together, which you will do the hard way, one step at a time.
The good news is, as hard as it is, that’s all you need to do – take one step at a time, and keep on stepping.
@Enilias Hang in there, buddy, you’ll get a really good feedback and support here. You just need to be patient when expecting results, stay focused on your goals when life hits harder and keep working on continually getting up and moving forward. I was just reading this yesterday: https://steveblank.com/2016/11/10/how-the-marine-corps-builds-an-innovation-culture/ One of the most difficult exercises for our cohorts is distilling “world-hunger”-level challenges into discrete, focused problems we can solve in 12 weeks. We learned that if you cannot define your problem in one sentence that a 7 year-old can understand, you don’t understand the problem. If you want to create… Read more »
5 foot 10 and 260….. A fat 260? Or a muscular 250? Can’t think of any quicker lady boner killer then being obese
But like it was said, one step and one day at a time my man. You’ll get there
@Enilias
“I’m almost 34 years old, 5’10”, just under 260 lbs.”
Like other’s said, one step at at time, and I’d say the easiest step to take would be with your body. Little shit, like:
1. Don’t eat fast food EVER AGAIN.
2. Don’t eat past 8:00 pm EVER AGAIN.
3. Walk, exercise EVERY DAY.
4. Turn the F’in television off FOR GOOD, and use that time on #4.
If you can’t stick to these, ask yourself why not. Finding out that answer is #5
@enilias
correction:
4. Turn the F’in television off FOR GOOD, and use that time on [[I meant #3]].
What’s good attraction material? I read a yareally post earlier: ”default chode way of gaming is “So uhhh do you come here often? Cool do you like it? Cool what do you do?” Those chodey guys don’t understand so they just shoot for rapport immediately and the girl makes an excuse to leave or rejects them because they have no value to her yet. If they just knew to DHV *FIRST* and how to build attraction, they would do better” I understand that, but i’m not sure HOW. Like, i’m yet to find any reliable routines or whatever that do… Read more »
@Enilias
I sure feel sorry for your ex’s hs sweetheart.
Someday you will look on your daughter with gratitude for giving you a reason to live fully,getting you out of your self. That kid is going to drag your ass places you never imagined and load you up with ambition.
Hang in there brother.
Enilias Welcome. First. Stop. Eating. Everything… Drop that fat. You can be fat and game succesfully if tou have the right mentality. You don’t have that. So don’t shoot yourself in the face. That said… Do NOT wait to start taking action vis game because you are rotund. Start today. Your questions… 1. I Dont2 have one. Doesn’t matter to cold approach pu. Actually is a dhv. 2.i Don’t have one… Lol 3. Err is there a question? 4. Of course. That is what spergs do. So realize this. Trust in the process 100% else you will fuck yourself… 5.… Read more »
If I read Mackay correctly, he’s using someone’s else’s stories?
If so,can’t see how that will work
If your own stories suck, get new ones. Learn to box and get a couple of semi pro fights in, get a dog and hike the Appalachian trail from top to bottom, buy a Harley and ride up the ALCAN highway etc etcv
@ Ton
True. YaReally used to talk about ” baby-stepping ” newbs and stuff like that. But you cannot just look for other people’s shit to use on women because eventually you will step on your dick.
That’s what I meant a while back when I said that guys have to ” do some superman or badassed ” shit. Then you can just roll off real stories and not worry about you penis getting underfoot.
@Enilias – welcome and keep taking action and following the advice here. You’ll be fine. I won’t repeat the advice everyone else has given but just add that your biggest problem is likely to be logistics – are you going to pull girls back to the house you share with your parents and your daughter? I’m not suggesting you move right away – obviously it’s not the right thing at this point in your life. But keep it in mind as a goal and remember that it will be a challenge – you just need to get good enough bang… Read more »
@ Culum Lol. I’d never ” jump all over ” you. You are a thoughtful dude that I love reading comments from. But…. Yes, I still remember how YaReally cautioned me, for years, to be careful what I say around teh newbs. It used to drive me crazy because I looked at it like this: He knew all of the pua stuff and I did not, so while he gave the pua perspective, I’d lean in on the ” do some shit ” perspective and encourage guys to make the most out of life that they could. To my mind,… Read more »
Shit, was I just dissed by Zipper? I feel lower than a whale turd on the bottom of the ocean. Think I’ll go eat worms…
…in other news, I leaped a tall building in a single bound.
@Emilias
Why do you need Facebook? People tell me about fun events and places and last week a girl from my past connected with me on fb…a girl said she was creating a party event and was gonna invite me on fb…if you travel, you can set up dates using fb…my sister lives in Europe and I use fb to chat with her…I find out about family events using fb
“I need lots of good material, but not sure where to look. I wish yareally wrote actual FR’s!” “I wouldn’t even know where to start gaming, and even if I did, how? Before that, I know I need to fix my own shit.” You guys are starting at the bottom from square one. You have to not have desire and inner intention to get better. You have to understand (know thyself), take a personal inventory of your strengths and weaknesses and then not be too proud to admit your weaknesses, avoid them, and enhance your strengths. Sounds like you guys… Read more »
#1 i want men to have the best life possible. While i am not anti Game, and I see the need for react to contact drills like the routines mentioned I question whether the typical dude can pull off someone elses stories.
I also promise you a man who rides coast to coast and tries to talk every girl he meets into walking off her dead end job and ridding off into the sunset with with him will be Game at the end of the 5000 miles.
Sorry, phrased something wrong.
“You have to only have desire and inner intention to get better.”
You have to have mother fucking huge desire and inner intention. But that is not enough. You have to have outward desire to get shit done and then Act, Act and then Act some more and have Outward Intention to get stuff done.
It’s simple, yet difficult to employ. If you cry about how difficult it is: guess what: You are a Pussy. Don’t be a Pussy. Be attractive. Don’t be Unattractive and whine. About not getting laid.
“I also promise you a man who rides coast to coast and tries to talk every girl he meets into walking off her dead end job and ridding off into the sunset with with him will be Game at the end of the 5000 miles.” It’s been a couple years here, where KFG would put up a big old Q.E.D. there. I’m actually pretty wise and not too un-intelligent where I can’t pick up a phrase. But that is still a tough one for me. I guess it means: you are on course Ton and carry on. Other’s should emulate… Read more »
Blax
“And you haven’t even parted your lips yet.”
and there is the rub. The Alpha Triad life creates attraction. But you still have to part those lips (yes both pair) at the end of the day. If you chode out when you but the strat down… It ain’t gonna work.
Also realize a high percentage, an overwhelming majority, of guys here are completely socially maladjusted… Those are the guys looking for help.
I’d say 75% are semi autists, gamma or omega… 20% beta and or BP chumps reawakening and trying… 5% killers looking to hone an edge.
J
“that she felt it was safe to just relax around me and embrace her feminine essence. Ehh who knows lol. My hand is on the small of her back. ”
So much this… They are really dying for a guy who can handle them… I really enjoy that moment when the shit testing is destroyed and they just melt into you. That exact moment feels better than most orgasms…
Newly
Take note! This is how you blow past the married shit tests (which are just a another form of shit test).
@Blax If you’re sitting on your front porch with a strat and a pignose, wailing away on…whatever… Oye Como Va by Santana, and chicks walk up to you and have a seat….. well…. that shit ain’t too bad either. And you haven’t even parted your lips yet. That’s demonstrating value…if you have anti-Game, that destroys value and so many guys have anti-Game…anti-Game wipes out all the value from musical ability, lifting, etc. Being a musician is very cool and I envy men who have that ability. There’s a parallel between musical ability and dancing ability. It took me a while… Read more »
There was this one time when a fly kept beating it’s head against the glass of a window over and over. But right adjacent there was this open door, that it found. And it was easy to fly away.
How the hell does that work into your plans?
Inner desire, inner intention to act. Outward intention, Action. Choose among the options presented to you. Really Choose. Really Act.
Heheh. Do it.
Or try to do it and report back.
@Blaximus, Ton You guys overestimate what PUAs mean by “story.” That’s probably the only thing rsdtyler said that blew my mind when I tried it. You can seperate content from emotion when you are saying something. If you talk about the most boring shit imaginable as if you describe how you went to the moon the reaction you get is much better than I would expect. (there probably a more detailed video on this, but this is the one my youtube search came up with) [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhInX6P9dpA&w=854&h=480%5D That said, life is too short, and everybody should do interesting stuff as… Read more »
Ta. I think the issue isn’t so much the stories themselves, but the idea of telling a story at all too a young girl who doesn’t know you with her phone going mad and bright lights flashhing etc so early into an interaction which I feel is weirding the girls out, lol. These young girls don’t seem to respond too it and it almost confuses them. I think some sort of short tease would be better. A handful of them, maybe. These girls seem ADHD and speak in soundbites rather than paragraphs. But nothing seems to have really replaced such… Read more »
@SJF Yeah, engaging intransigence isn’t a good idea…but there are lurkers who may benefit from the exchange. If someone won’t even listen to HABD… And I really, really have to hit on the dread tactic because it ties into spinning plates and increasing a man’s value because of preselection (fuck, that’s an awful lot of Rollo’s jargon) so that he has hand in a relationship. I don’t get much backup here about using dread and I think that a lot of guys still are bound by the FI so that they somehow see using dread the way I implement it… Read more »
@Blaximus Gotta agree with Anon01 on that one. The point is to learn Cat-o-nese. That’s the “MVP” here, not all those great “features” of a perfect “product”… that nobody even complains about… because it’s not used… after releasing it for the first time… months or years later… Newbs have all those social questions because their mental wiring is fucked up and they don’t even see things that are a natural part of your life by now. Think about it: you have a lot to undo and rewire and you don’t even realise that (catch 22). Cat-o-nese didn’t even register on… Read more »
@ Mackay The one thing I’ve noticed in a lot of girls/women 25 and younger, is that they do indeed seem to have ADHD in some electronically induced form. I remember the time before cell phones and social media, and the landscape today is more like a disaster area in a lot of respects. I don’t know if you were around here for the many discussions YaReally and I engaged in about to ” 20 year old HB9 with tons of social media and 10,000 orbiters.. “, but I propose that a lot of these hypnotized chicks can be snapped… Read more »
@Enilias I couldn’t advocate enough Newlyaloof’s point of turning off the television forever. It’s a waste of life, fills you head with stupid ideas all steeped in the feminine imperative (almost all of the main stream movies and media have been taken over by the feminine imperative nowadays), and is utterly boring compared to the joy of practising a new skill or hobby that you find engaging. Specifically in terms of exercise, try to find something you enjoy doing, rather doing it for the purpose of looking better, it doesn’t feel like work and you won’t have the motivational problems… Read more »
“but I propose that a lot of these hypnotized chicks can be snapped out of their comas long enough to engage. Now, it will depend on how skillful you are at engaging them that will determine how long you can make them pay attention.”
Its not difficult. Just don’t be fucking boring lol (going straight into C1). Be more interesting than whatever is on her phone and her RAS will focus 100% on you. Emotional rollercoaster /\/\/\/\
@Monkey
I watch a few like “Father Knows Best” and “Burns & Allen” from a semi-patriarchal time when I’m lifting.
One of my problems is getting mesmerized by timewasters that give me good feelz. On line timed chess. I have to calibrate time very carefully.
@ Sentient, anon01 and IRL OK, mia culpa. I’m understanding more and more about the challenges some men are facing, and 90% of what I’ve learned, I’ve learned in TRM comments. It’s just my nature to not treat anyone facing challenges of some sort like they are different. Meaning, I’ll be understanding but basically I’m going to treat you as a man and try to get you to rise to the occasion yourself, in your own way. Ya always said that the objective was to get guys talking to girls and getting them laid, as that’s priority number 1 for… Read more »
Predator vision:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/4/#comment-rationalmale-152638
@ASDgamer You may already get this. The big secret is there are no secrets,meaning that when I have options I don’t have to use dread it is there already,some part of the instinctive mind is alive and well in all of us particularly women. This being the case,how we view ourselves becomes the view of others until proven otherwise. there is an essence of confidence or lack thereoff that cannot be faked in the long run. This is where attraction makes the break with relational legs,in order for the relationship to have legs the DPA has to be internalized. The… Read more »
”its not difficult. Just don’t be fucking boring lol (going straight into C1). Be more interesting than whatever is on her phone and her RAS will focus 100% on you. Emotional rollercoaster /\/\/\/\”
What do you do/say to do this? An simply amazing DHV story that blows her mind? Some other canned routine? Give me some material to use this weekend 🙂
After watching the Tyler vid anon01 posted above, I was struck with an idea ( that’s probably been covered already by puas ). You want to practice talking to girls/people? You know who dogs conversation and maybe doesn’t get to engage as much as they’d like to? The elderly. I’m serious. In society many elderly are becoming more and more invisible, and since a majority don’t text or Skype of facetime or tinder, lol, they don’t get to have that much interaction with ” strangers “. And they don’t even have to be 80 years old. Hell, I qualify as… Read more »
bumrush LOL
“What do you do/say to do this? An simply amazing DHV story that blows her mind? Some other canned routine? Give me some material to use this weekend 🙂”
So, what’s your backstory Mackay? Are we to assume you were just born yesterday and have no conversation skills?
https://therationalmale.com/2012/02/22/breadcrumbs/
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/09/12/seduction-and-storytelling-the-science/
Fucking mackay…. Dude joogle routines, routine stacks, dhv stories etc. There a a zillion references of these… Horsegirl, mystery’s strippet and car story, his two girls fighting story etc. Have ONE interesting story and get used to telling it… Understand the structure the up down up of a story… Start the story by going up to a girl and saying “so check this out… The other day…” No easy ways other than doing. And J s link there to yas archive has a ton of story references… Here is the Be The Change story of mine he is referring to… Read more »
@mackay They probably aren’t interested in your dhv stories cause they don’t perceive your SMV high enough to warrent listening to the whole thing. So what i do is self amuse until I’m getting enough A2 (iois/asking questions) then at this stage I’ll start to disqualify myself to make her chase/invest more. Chasing my validation (not kissing her when she wants me to kiss her). I never ask about her job unless i freeze up and have nothing to say, but i wont stay on the subject. I’ll relate one thing about it then cold read her on something about… Read more »
I second @Blaximus suggestion. You can get valuable practice with people that aren’t young hotties (particularly if you are below average in social skills, due to being above average in autism or something else). I rarely talked to people seating close to me in the plane and just read or something, but I do it more often now. Of the recent times I only once got a hottie, but there were two instances where I got some older women (50 or 60+ I don’t even know LOL) super engaged in the conversation. I could have number closed them easily, and… Read more »
@Enilias
“I’m almost 34 years old, 5’10”, just under 260 lbs”
Didn’t read that wall of text closely. I also don’t know why guys want to put you in the gym. That’s only going to make you want to eat more. You can’t lift and do cardio and not want to refuel. You’ll just overshoot, or “reward” yourself.
Your stuff is all mental. As they used to say, you need to get you mind right.
What’s your real problem? It ain’t being fat or lack of girls or lack of money.
Figure out what that is first.
@stuff I cosign what you said, but going out solo to bars is a different degree of dread than merely going to work. You’re going where there is booze and girls, some of whom are looking to hook up and others might be willing to steal a husband. This is especially important when your wife questions your sexual attractiveness. Before you have established your alpha cred with your wife. You have to get some practice in gaming girls (at least to the extent of flirting). Otherwise you’ll never give off those alpha signals to your wife. The threat of divorce… Read more »
Mackay I know your next question is going to be “but but i did it and it didn’t work”… A big part of spiking attraction is handling the situation when the dhv story doesn’t work… Actually an advanced gamer would prefer that so he can crush the follow up shit test. Here is an example from an old fr… But his girl was now starting to banter with me. I tell a DHV story and she shit tests me with “Good story, very descriptive – are you Bret Easton Ellis or something?” So I’m thinking wow this is fascinating, this… Read more »
I try to flirt with every chick I meet, in any context…. cashiers, co-workers (gotta be careful), waitress, etc.; and by flirting, I mean light banter that doesn’t have to be sexual, but shows you’re not afraid to talk to anyone and doing it actually makes it true lol they can be old, married, young, single, ugly, hot…. just try to engage them as a person; you’ll start to see what works and what doesn’t w/out the pressure to get a number; and by works, I mean that you’ll see some that light up and if you’re in the mood,… Read more »
” . . . the gym. That’s only going to make you want to eat more. You can’t lift and do cardio and not want to refuel.” Lifting won’t, and the only “cardio” recommend so far is walking, which he should do for itself. If he diets without lifting he will lose more muscle than fat, percentage wise. His metabolism will want to shed muscle to reduce energy need, and it only takes a 600 Calorie deficit to shed a pound of muscle. He will have to learn to eat like a man who works, rather than a girl who… Read more »
“….these are baby steps intended for those whose biggest step so far has been to find this site; it might seem foolish to others further up the RP path” I had been golfing for about 35 years, and then six years ago I broke down and got some lessons on form, while having known the mechanics of the swing, but not being able to see what I was doing wrong. I took a grand total of three lessons and that made all the difference. All of the sudden I was swinging the club properly. I had thought it was my… Read more »
@ASD True enough,just gotta wonder if she doesn’t see him as alpha how did she get to be his wife?beta bucks? I am at the point where I game all the time everywhere everyone,just like the interaction and the wife mainly throws down with comfort tests to the point of wet blanketing. My friend asked me to work medical and security at the music fest ,she “the wife” can’t stand going(to much dread) and I went solo,had a great time interacting w/ 100’s of people and got hit on by many chicks mega ioi’s. Slept alone in my camper and… Read more »
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Just wanted to add, I’m talking Nightgame (bars, clubs) chaotic environments filled with lots of stimulus competing for her attention. So that’s why I save my DHV stories when I’m isolated with the girl away from her friends and music. (@Sentient’s excellent coffee shop example happens during the day. Less distractions…already in isolation)
@stuff
Props. I tried giving Mrs. Gamer extra attention before I went out and explained that I’m an extrovert and need to recharge my batteries. She was flirty before and after.
@zipper
Props. Now go hit the bars. Act up. Be obnoxious. See if women like it. See if men don’t, lol. Your mission, Dr. Zipper, should you decide to accept it, is to get a girl to give you a swat on your butt at a bar. This comment will destruct in…..
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@ASD
I never give the attention before,only I’m gonna disappear friday afternoon and reappear sunday eve, later.
She gets my attention after the quest.
J brings up a good point about noise. In the bars and lounges I favor they are not too loud so if you project a bit you can be heard fine. Interesting that a big focus of Jeffys Resonator product is projection and tone.
Now of course if it is just a bit loud you have the opportunity to hook her with the story and then pull her close, arm around waist or small of back or her arm and speak into her ear (don’t lean in though) and get some strong kino going…
If DHV stories and the like aren’t your thing, then don’t use them. Almost nobody uses that sort of thing nowadays. Look into natural game (RSD, simplepickup, WillyBeck, evolutionDaily and about 95% of the pickup industry)
@mackay “I think some sort of short tease would be better. A handful of them, maybe. These girls seem ADHD and speak in soundbites rather than paragraphs.” I also don’t use stories, unless its a day2, and you are at the comfort stage(or vibe to use rsdjulien’s term). Storytelling is one of the few things that provide both comfort and value. What you see in the rsd videos you decribe is a bunch of “easy” to open sets. Of course, you will notice they have the basics of man to woman on point(eye contact, closing distance, voice tonality). That said,… Read more »
What I mean is…..
Most of the guys here are working on their Game. Which is good, right and just.
I would like to see men build up their Frame to the point where they don’t have to work on it, that their Frame, Game and sovereignty is as natural as breathing
Only way to get there, that I know of, is to go out into the world and just do the type of shit other men talk about but never actually do
“If your own stories suck, get new ones. Learn to box and get a couple of semi pro fights in, get a dog and hike the Appalachian trail from top to bottom, buy a Harley and ride up the ALCAN highway etc etcv” a man with limited time can cherry pick. semi pro fight? that takes time and puts your dome at risk. you could talk about the fight club you set up in high school instead. she won’t know there were only ever three good nights and she won’t care because you only talk about the crazy one where… Read more »
@ fleez I don’t think any man should die without riding a bike. It’s a singular experience and there’s nothing that compares. I went down hard in my early 20’s. and didn’t suffer any real damage ( fucked up my helmet though… fuckin’ gravel…). I kinda pussied out after that, lol, but at least once or twice a year I’ll grab my cousin’s Harley and go for a ride. But I’m not riding in the city. Fuck that. I’ve never met a girl that didn’t like being on the back of a bike. Even the ones that were scared shitless… Read more »
@ fleez
Oh yeah, I spent weekends for years doing this –
I’d actually take dates to the track and make them sit in the stands while I raced. Lol. Got the panties afterwards every.single.time.
What a fucking pussy
First off, thank you all for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. @SFC Ton @newlyaloof No, it’s not a muscular 260. In an effort to regain some self-esteem, I will say that I’m very likely never going to be at the 180 mark like doctors would say should be my weight based purely on my height. 215-220 is more ideal realizing that it’ll look more like a brick wall rather than something emaciated. I haven’t watched TV in over 2 years. If anything, I need to put the internet down, quit reading, and start doing. I’m just lost on what the “doing”… Read more »
@ Ton
Lmao. Guilty.
Wasn’t talking about you Blax
Lol. See? I’m paranoid about not riding.
@Ton
Making the run up to the creek the back way,3rd gear all the way,the ole lady on the bitch pad rubbing my ass with both hands and purring like a kitten in my ear from the vibes,that nearly did cause a head injury,felt like a broken shaft.
a quick pull of in the woods and she knew how to fix things.
@Mackay There is not much to say to you. You gotta start someplace. I was contemplating what to contribute to you. But You are so starting from Scratch. I figure this might be a simple bone to throw to you. I’m almost embarrassed to cut an paste this because it it gay, although perhaps correct for you. I certainly am a natural and don’t thing about having any conversation be contrived. I don’t know the source. Something about Nick Sparks dating coach, yada, yada, yada. Some throw away book on Amazon: “As You Are: Ignite Your Charisma, Reclaim Your Confidence,… Read more »
@Enilias Sounds like game should be the last thing on your plate. One of the things that was a glaring problem in YaReally’s game, Tyler’s, Mystery’s – is that even though they could apply psychology on women, they had limited success in running game in themselves. All of their lives were a mess. Tyler and Mystery were obvious and public. YaReally often alluded to his own poverty. Females are just one part of your life. They are an important part, no doubt, but given your list of 7 major areas to improve on – a woman has the tendency to… Read more »
for a different kind of game
“SJF mentioned listing the things that I need to improve on. Here’s my self-described list of things I consider I need to work on. 1. Lose weight. 2. Get a physique (And no, I don’t consider these the same thing.) 3. Quit smoking. 4. Quit escaping to the internet. 5. Find new social groups. 6. Build a career. (This is one of the things that I’m completely stuck on and have absolutely no idea where to even start applying energy towards.) 7. Create something that I can call my own and be proud of.” Doing away with number four (or… Read more »
@phil
“necessary” “required” not this…have fun…be authentic…build your energy and social proof…open other men and build their energy…do a quick release if you encounter an energy vampire…be comfortable pushing boundaries and recovering if you get IODs
Try this in a Neg situation where a girl has a huge bitch shield up…start with a deadpan expression
Me: [sniff] Did you sweep floors today?
Her: No, why?
Me: Must be your ride. Funny, you seem sweet… [switch to a cocky expression] are you a good witch?
Nice comment Archie. PUA is a tool not a life.
Enelias
Move. Just move. Now. That will set the stage for your rebirth… And as Archie says, not just with women.
1. Find out who you are and what you like Try new things and be adventurous…find something you can be passionate about and throw yourself into it. 2. Run game where you will get financial and social benefit…on other men where money is…bankers, lawyers, CEOs…the country club set…build your options…become friends with successful men Bring value, bring value, bring value [tiger smashes fruit fly mid flight–been bugging me for a few minutes] where was I? Oh, yeah, bring value but require other guys to bring value too…they will probably hold out a bit on giving value back to you…hold that… Read more »
@Archie @Enilias “Females are just one part of your life. They are an important part, no doubt, but given your list of 7 major areas to improve on – a woman has the tendency to DESTROY what you’re trying to do because she needs attention.” This^100% truth,if you are thinking of finding a new mom for your daughter or that in any way it would be good for her,forget it. You and your daughter are better off in the current situ with her grandma. You will be better of spinning plates after 1-6. Finding a new mom that would have… Read more »
“Nice comment Archie.”
Well it wasn’t exactly “nice” for Enilias to hear, but that is some real, real profound advice.
Well said WIA. A guy’s got to build his life on a solid foundation.
Makes me cringe when I think back on Softek’s mindset. And he got left running in place.