For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
Man i read your book(the rational male 1), it was phenomenal sorry for not buying it, cause i cannot afford to see my parents reading this. Ill buy it in the future definitely. I just had one question, how should i go about approaching women now. Should i just approach them at totally my convenience and deny any of their home ‘situations’ (i live in india where females live with their family until marriage) or i should just ignore for the most part and focus on myself. And please tell me how will i know you replied
So you read the book without buying it.
And you want him to help.
Good luck!
you were right!!! she is messaging me and calling me and texting me that we can talk till my brother comes to states (he is coming in a month, she knows that) because she has to take care of me till that time. I dont want to talk because that is not how it works. I read again the second book and read about 40 year old security phase. It was my mistake and i got into this trap. (being desperate and she is in her last stage of hitting the wall or declining SMV) But why it is difficult… Read more »
I am getting some weird thoughts which are below…. When i was struggling in India to find th job in USA, she helped me. She picked my phone whenever i call her. She told me that she had put my number on ringtone(no on silent) so that she can pick. While coming to USA, she helped me find a place when I was looking. Even if now if I call her, she will pick up the phone anytime. day or night. (unless her office, but she messages me) If i block her, what will she do, she has no life… Read more »
Palma – looks like you’re handling everything well. It just never stops but you’re keeping up with it. Hans – we can give you advice and we can explain stuff you don’t understand. But ultimately YOU have to do it. YOU are responsible for your life – I can’t come over there and block that woman on your phone for you. At some point (which you have reached), the reasoning and whys etc are irrelevant – it’s time to take ACTION. You are NOT responsible for her, no matter how much she tries to emotionally blackmail you. You need to… Read more »
Gang – quick update. As I committed on here, I have been going out atleast once a week to do approaches – I can just about manage to fit that into my life. The reality TV event was fun but the mechanics of how the teams were organized meant there wasn’t much opportunity to socialize etc. Overall I’m managing to go out and do a few situational opens in places like bookshops and bars etc but not really more than that. The reactions are as good as expected. I think I may need to do a “reboot” by redoing HABD’s… Read more »
OTP
What’s stopping you from trying to run proper Game, instadate, sexualize, etc? Doing 400 opens is for AA.
Game or don’t Game. That is the question.
Is your heart in it? Are you just going through the motions to check a box in a list? “Get good at cold approach” ✔️
There is no trophy 🏆 at the end ya know?
@OTP
Game or don’t Game. That is the question
00:30
You game do, or you game don’t. Middle of the road = “squish like grape”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lQSxNdr3c
thanks for everything and clear instructions. Where can i get the mystery method book ?
Is it the the mystery method book- how to get beautiful women in bed by Mystery?
Yes that is it.
Right @ HABD Right.. what I didn’t tell ya is while I was doing d.squat last year I applied for a patent and It’s lodged and today I got conf from the lawyers there are likely to be no objections and because it’s filed I got protection in Europe & Umurica. So here it is got any ideas how to get it to market over there? https://imgur.com/a/bMnePhT The financial gig is something like this: If ya got one of these : https://imgur.com/a/BN3jtKX Ya fucked = cold & big gas bill. Yuge gas bill. It has 50-60 sq metres heat loss… Read more »
When are you launching this Palma?
Sentient/Palma – noted on the stuff about approaching. Lot of family stuff going on right now but message received about thinking through my motivations.
@OTP
It needs £20k on injection moulding tooling and I’m stretched too thin at the moment.
So meantime I’m getting the spacer parts cast in brass so I can put together a prototype so the builders merchants will actually understand it.
Them I’m hoping to get one of them to give munny in return for temporary exclusivity in the U.K.
Don’t need much munny really. Rest of the parts are cheap.
@Palma, Some of the cuff questions that immediately spring to mind:- Do you have a proof of concept that you’ve tried in the field? How do you cut it to length and/or width and maintain a seal inside the bag that will contain the expanding foam? How easy will it be to practically handle in large lengths, in the field, you’ve got what, to begin with, appears to effectively be a rubber dinghy with a load of tacks that are able to wobble about on one side, it seems like a tricky thing to work with in a confined space.… Read more »
@Palma
Some further thoughts:-
Expanding foam is pretty vigourous, where I’ve seen it used in manufacture, where injected into rectangular containers, the container is put in a foam press first to stop it deforming.
The spacers will press against the roof decking which might deform it a little, same on the internal ply inside.
Interesting idea though, and even better if you have a working prototype.
p.s. I’m an occasional reader here and your post peaked my interest.
Hey @PassingThru Many thanks for your input, foam wouldn’t actually be used in the roof context for that reason. We’d use bead that would be blown in. But the object of the exercise is to get the patent broad enough so that if anyone tried to use it for something else then in a different context then I’m still protected. What area are you in? I’m protected in most of the world for filing and I’m just assessing where the markets could be? At the moment I’m thinking of filing in the EU and US in addition to my U.K.… Read more »
Some of the cuff questions that immediately spring to mind:- Do you have a proof of concept that you’ve tried in the field? Yes as much as I need to, the concept works. How do you cut it to length and/or width and maintain a seal inside the bag that will contain the expanding foam? Bead, not foam. The bag isn’t sealed, it has minute perforations and so the whole thing is vapour permeable if used in the roof context. It’s pre made in the standard widths. There are 4 (ish) standards in the U.K. comes on a roll and… Read more »
@PalmaSailor Right @ HABD Right.. what I didn’t tell ya is while I was doing d.squat last year I applied for a patent and It’s lodged and today I got conf from the lawyers there are likely to be no objections and because it’s filed I got protection in Europe & Umurica. So here it is got any ideas how to get it to market over there? https://imgur.com/a/bMnePhT this is not popping up for me, but based on the other comments, it seems like you are blowing expanded styrene beads into the roof cavity, with some type of poly bag… Read more »
*this is not popping up for me, but based on the other comments, it seems like you are blowing expanded styrene beads into the roof cavity, with some type of poly bag stuffed in first to contain the mess…( I pulled it because it was other places too. https://imgur.com/a/4uqY2h2 It’s not just the mess, it’s mainly ventilation that’s required to stop the roof rotting. if the savings really are that great, and you have the patent, you are not charging enough…lol… you should be getting at least equivalent to average 2-4 months energy costs savings… that should still be an… Read more »
Right guys. Long FR from me after a long time where something actually happens. I mean – it was a dismal failure and I feel like I should be raising a glass to the girl who comprehensively outplayed me at the game with an insanely strong frame, but I learned a lot. I remember an old FR from Sentient which has stuck in my mind for years – something about meeting a very hot Eastern European model literally on the street and going for a drink with her and having a great time but how she managed to squirm out… Read more »
@OTP well that ^^ has made ma eyes bleed Right guys. Long FR from me after a long time where something actually happens. I mean – it was a dismal failure and I feel like I should be raising a glass to the girl who comprehensively outplayed me at the game with an insanely strong frame, but I learned a lot. I remember an old FR from Sentient which has stuck in my mind for years – something about meeting a very hot Eastern European model literally on the street and going for a drink with her and having a… Read more »
@OTP https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbDZuc3M1aGJqZjE4aGplazI3a2dncjNpeGV2OHp3MnJ3dGRjbzlvNSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zKls8LkYpjbbO/200.webp that^^ was painful as f^k to read… buut now that it’s over, you get a GREAT opportunity to participate in a teachable moment…lol sooo, here’s what i want you to do… cut and paste your FR into a comment, then pretend that (((I))) put that up as my FR and deconstruct what her obvious goals/thought process was… bc all (((I))) see was an active short con… (and i don’t think @Palma is wrong about the kickback from the bar… how many drinks did she have?… and how much did she weigh?… was it even full strength booze?…) that’s… Read more »
I know, I know, I know guys. Palma – I deserve all of that. The girl wins either way – either I am a nice provider beta and she gets a pleasant night out with $100 drinks flowing OR I am an alpha and she gets railed by an alpha and enjoys that too. Win/win. The only way she can lose is if I’m a beta and NOT a provider, in which case she’s wasted her time for a boring evening (which is why the women on the sugar sites reserve their worst condemnation for “cheap” men and men who… Read more »
HABD – ouch! I will do as you suggest this weekend and do a breakdown from her perspective. But a few immediate thoughts: The more I think about it the more what you and Palma were saying about kickbacks to the bar seems likely. She was maybe 5’4”? Average weight, nice figure. Not skinny but definitely not fat. I am not sure exactly how many drinks she had (because I can’t remember how much my wine or her steak cost ). But I remember how much each whiskey cost and for the math to work, she must have had at… Read more »
@OTP
that seems like a straight rope and rinse…
if’n you want to have some fun, dispute the charges on your card and say the bar was supposed to split the check… lol
good luck!
@OTP
Can’t read fully right now but sounds like a clip joint, she’s an “employee”,on commission and it’s her job to get the punters in and rinse them. Hence the bouncer.
Thank you both. One final data point. By itself I would have assumed it was just a coincidence but in conjunction with all the other things, it seems a bit weird. The bar was pretty quiet – understandable as it was late-ish on a weeknight. There were only about 6 couches occupied, but every single one was a couple. No groups, no one alone, no table with 2 men or 2 women. ALL were just couples and ALL were decent looking women in their 20s (the men varied – there was at least one guy who looked like he was… Read more »
@OTP
Has the bar got a website you want to share?
OTP
Why is a guy who wants to get good at cold approach Game using Tinder to start with?
Sentient – was in meetings all day, had some free time waiting for deal to complete, was idly going through Tinder through out the day, not expecting much (because I usually do badly on Tinder) but it turned out I actually did well and then started chatting to scammer-girl. I had actually planned to go out to the bars after work until I started getting results on Tinder. Palma – I’d tell any of you guys in person but I don’t want to put the location up publicly – way too many people know where I was travelling last week… Read more »
@OTP I’ve said it til I’m blue in the face: Do game or don’t do game – no half measures – or you’ll get squished like grape. Just for the record you didn’t get squished like grape here – ya just got hit for $1200 Stop obsessing about who may identify you where, that’s bollocks, this is an outback. Your risk is you fuck up and you lose your wife and kids. If you’re taking it seriously then take it seriously, or go take up golf. Seriously. You cant dick around with game the way you’re doing it and expect… Read more »
OTP Triple what Palma said. This is the second time you’ve been shaken down as a mark. I can’t believe they brought you a 1200 bill and you didn’t say anything. That’s an insane amount for two people and no bottles. So you see “just fooling around” on tinder distracted you from what you say ya want, to get good at cold approach? Which makes me think, since this kind of non game happens a lot, you are just buffering now and don’t really want to get into The Work ™ any more. Which is a perfectly valid choice btw.… Read more »
@OTP Not looking to dogpile on you here but I just got back from an interview for a member of staff, and i know, its Sunday blah blah blah. The TL;DR, is that the potential employee is an utter scumbag and this wasn’t obvious from the limited CV you get from young men. I came home and told Mrs PS that there was no way that scumbag was coming anywhere near our ‘bubble’, that is, our life. I work very hard to not have to engage with shit like him and to not have shit like him intruding in my… Read more »
@Everyone – Donald Trump wins.
Woohoo! Trump wins – maybe the pendulum is starting to swing back a little from the craziness (and good to see you posting again IAS!). As for me – I’m not ignoring the comments guys – you’re all right of course. There’s just a lot of stuff going on in life – family health issues, financial issues etc (nothing world ending but serious enough) and I absolutely have to focus on that mentally till the ship is on an even keel again (although I do check in here every couple of days to see what’s going on). I just don’t… Read more »
IAS – news travel slow in your parts? lol
OTP enjoy that Trump Jump on your crypto…
Major meltdowns here stateside, women crying, shaking… it’s so sweet really.
And SOME of the leftists starting to acknowledge that a) they new all about Biden’s health all along and b) they probably sorta shouldn’t have covered it up… and c.) no one cares about trans xyz shit when food and gas cost $$$$…
Sentient – it’s glorious to watch isn’t it? In my circle, there’s a clear line between the relatively sensible liberals who are like “Trump is awful but we do need to think about why so many people voted for him and why he increased vote share in every demographic and why the Democratic Party failed them” and the ones (largely Karens it must be said) who have retreated even further into the “it’s because the country is sexist/racist/transphobic/whatever” and that Kamala ran a “flawless campaign” and that the Biden admin has been the best administration in a century etc. I… Read more »
On another note, I was reminded of what Sentient posted about my motivations recently for Game. I was reading some book about investing and trading recently and the author was making the point that most (retail) investors and traders just don’t understand their own motivations and why they actually participate in their markets. He says they will tell you (and tell themselves) that they want to make money but in reality the emotions driving them are often completely different. The classic example is the well-off dentist or lawyer dabbling in the stock market – the real emotional need they are… Read more »
It’s funny though – just looking at the above post – I didn’t write “I have a bone deep desire to bang as many attractive women as I can” – I wrote I have a desire to “complete the journey I started and become good with women..”..
@Sentient I was just surprised no one posted about it before me 🙂 My update – it’s been a bit unstable with my dear N=3, for about half a year or so. We have been “together” for over 5 years now. I really like her. N=19 also still with me (now for almost 2 years). They are somewhat same social circle but different cities. I don’t think this is sustainable for much longer (or even if I can still really recover N=3 to how it used to be). I’m hesitant to drop N=19 when she didn’t do anything wrong, but… Read more »
My update – it’s been a bit unstable with my dear N=3, for about half a year or so. We have been “together” for over 5 years now. I really like her. Unstable = she’s not consolidating and well into epiphany so you’re probably slippknh with some ST’s. 5 years is well beyond the life expectancy of any plate and she’s due to crash, simply because she probably has to consolidate on something definite. You could prolly trump that ^^ (heh see what I did there 😂) with Alpha but you’d need to go harder. N=19 also still with me… Read more »
Gonna channel Sentient here @IAS – what do you want? Like what’s your goal in terms of women? You pretty much seem to have hit your goals so it’s more like “Have they changed? If your goals haven’t changed, do you just need to change your plates and hit a new equilibrium?”
So a bit of an update, I caught up with No.1 son after work today because I had two of his shirts that had been re made and the tailor shipped them to me by mistake. I was working locally and he caught up with me in a local pub about 5pm. Had a beer, general chit chat and out of the blue he said he “wouldn’t mind” meeting his brother if I wanted to bring him next time we’re out. I said that the house was only 5 minutes away and he could drop by and meet him now… Read more »
Woohoo!
Just keep truckin’ on…
Palma
That’s great man, how did the visit go, did he hold the little guys?
Brotherhood is a very powerful bond, especially with the age difference. I suspect he will keep coming back.
Great stuff.
@ Sentient, No, he didn’t hold them, but only because the older one (23 months now) was quite happy to have him in the house but kicked up a fuss when I tried to hand him over, and the smaller one is coming up to 3 months and still strapped to mum in a carrier and she didn’t want to release him. We’re going down to the Med to my favourite island and I invited him down for a day. His mother has him “booked” for xmas and I’ve no doubt there is a lot of pressure for him to… Read more »
@ Sentient I’ve been thinking about Game, a lot more because of how it’s shit on over at the other place and what it’s given me. And it is obviously just the ego investments of the people concerned. Even the host who admits to trying it once and it worked but it’s like some guy jumping into a GT3RS, and scaring the bejesus out of himself. It then forces you to look at the woman you’ve invested your life into and ask “if you could have done better”? Got more / or any sex/ etc. People don’t want to look… Read more »
Guys, a question for the brain trust. So my son is 12-13 and is pretty good already at questioning the narrative and not taking things for granted (a bit too cynical if anything). He doesn’t need much redpilling and I’d rather let him learn things for himself with a bit of guidance than to try and explain too much to him. I’ve been thinking I want to say something explicitly about all the advantages women get in society and the double-standard against men etc (you know, more women than men go to college, female income is higher before children than… Read more »
Palma Yeah it’s a sad sack lot over there. I just eviscerated Faux Eddie, he clipped my FR he was touting, the fag… left out the good parts lol Without bigging it up, how many 55 yo men without any wealth or fame have you me who have my setup? The answer is none I expect. And you don’t know anyone that knows anyone. Yeah man, tbh just one guy but he has no kids… They should be begging you for knowledge but they can’t. I’ve distilled it down to this – Game denying is a spectrum with Self Loathing… Read more »
@PalmaSailor So a bit of an update, I caught up with No.1 son after work today because I had two of his shirts that had been re made and the tailor shipped them to me by mistake. I was working locally and he caught up with me in a local pub about 5pm. Had a beer, general chit chat and out of the blue he said he “wouldn’t mind” meeting his brother if I wanted to bring him next time we’re out. I said that the house was only 5 minutes away and he could drop by and meet him… Read more »
@OTP Or should I bring it up like at the dinner table, which will be guaranteed to provoke sputtering indignation from Mom and an argument with her (which will involve no logic or reason of course, just accusations of misogyny and her getting really upset). For reasons obvious to the gang here, I don’t generally waste my time getting into logical arguments with her. I am just wondering if it is better to bring it up in front of her to kind of show that I am not intimidated by saying things in front of her (although he often hears… Read more »
@Sentient
Yeah man, tbh just one guy but he has no kids… They should be begging you for knowledge but they can’t. I’ve distilled it down to this –
“Game denying is a spectrum with Self Loathing at one end and Self Aggrandizement at the other. Ego determining which end is which.”
nice… and this^^^ is all pushed by the FI propaganda machine…
hopefully, the pendulum will swing back… hard…lol…
now that the Trumpenator ™ got a mandate…
good luck!
@OTP
“basically that the days of the West being a “man’s world” are long gone.”
Only real thought is that it’s still a man’s world, “if” you’re a man.
I don’t think it’s ever changed. The societal shit tests just got more severe.
@Sentient
Ive just poasted over there, and I know he’s reading here, he pours over every detail, makes notes and remembers everything that can be thrown back at me / you / game.
And he gaslights. And the format which deletes old content allows that to go by and large unchallenged.
But let’s gets it right, we’re talking about gamma rage here. He never even gets close to a gurl.
Sad, but he doesn’t contribute, so needs to be triaged out. Easier said than done sometimes.
@Rollo As of the end of Feb 2024 that 100 dick in a day girl had £239,001 in the bank. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13175441/officers Click on filing history > accounts It’ll be interesting to see how much she has after that stunt. The accounts don’t show her as having drawn income from it. Over here you get £1M lifetime allowance at a tax rate of 10% if you sell a business or shut it down permanently. Looks like she’s saving up for the big payday. Interesting filing the 28th October 2024 https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13175441/filing-history “The company confirms that its intended future activities are lawful.” Of… Read more »
Confirmation statement 27/09/2021
Artistic creation
Lol
Merry Christmas you old boys.
Merry Xmas.
Hope anyone left reading has a good one!
Merry Christmas, TRM FR buddies!
Merry Christmas, all!
may blessings descend upon you like members of The View on a holiday buffet…
lol… but not kidding…
good luck!
Hey guys – Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Not been around for a couple weeks or so – just been struggling a bit with various family issues and financial issues and resultant stress. Not crisis or catastrophe level, just a lot on my plate. Hopefully better in the New Year, especially from around February onwards. I’m not going anywhere and will be checking in regularly again on TRM as long as you guys are here to hang out with – here’s to more active discussions in 2025! Also, despite various stressful things: -managed to lose 20 lbs between September… Read more »
PS – What happened in terms of talking to my son is that the day after I posted about whether to talk to him about the Matrix in front of Mom or not, he just asked me himself in private about it and I had a bit of a Teaching Moment (tried not to get into lecture mode and just explained a little bit and dropped the subject to let him follow the clues himself).
So I guess he already knows instinctively this is something to keep between us.
Do any of you guys post on SoSuave? It’s the forum where Rollo got his start and still seems to have some activity (not a huge amount, but still more than here)
Happy new year all…
Never poasted at so suave but worth a look if it’s still alive!
heh Happy New Year to the remnant.
Happy new year all…
Never poasted at so suave but worth a look if it’s still alive!
A (late) Happy New Year’s to all. So… I had made my first post here three months ago, a cry for help really, lamenting the state I found the redpill community in and the lack of forums and quality discussion. Thinking now, I was seeing the glass half-empty, given that I’m posting on the sacred halls of the Rational Male and there’s still signs of life here. I don’t know if there’s much room for me to say anything though. I’m a young man, second year of college, very little experience with game – like so many of my peers.… Read more »
@Jagermeister
Welcome back.
Tell us a bit more about this monogamy..
Whose idea was it?
And what are you looking for from us I hear now.
Monogamy is a legitimate lifestyle choice if you can get it on your terms. Do you feel that you do have it on your terms?
Hey, hope that heat over there isnt affecting you boys?
I’m sure there’s still plenty of us that used to read this blog actively that still drop by every now and then to check this last corner on the blog that is still sometimes active (Rollo can probably see the traffic stats).
Personally I found this place in 2015 and it changed my life. Almost 10 years of being a (more or less) rational male, Happy New Year guys!
@PalmaSailor
“Hey, hope that heat over there isnt affecting you boys?”
just tryin to figure out how to package it and send it to you for resale…lol
with your new invention, you should be able to be popular enough to run for PM…lol
good luck!
@PalmaSailor
“Hey, hope that heat over there isnt affecting you boys?”
just tryin to figure out how to package it and send it to you for resale…lol
with your new invention, you should be able to be popular enough to run for PM…lol
good luck!
Hey @Intheshadows – amen, brother. Some of us are still here and not going anywhere till (if) Rollo turns out the lights. Best community ever. And when I fix some family issues and financial issues, I’m gonna be back posting my FRs and experiences – I’m not stopping after achieving 75% of my Game goals. @Jagermeister – welcome (back). Stay and hang out a while. Take some action and some real concrete steps in your life. Post here and tell us about it and we’ll explain some stuff and hold you accountable and we’ll go from there. The pandemic sucked,… Read more »
@PalmaSailor “Whose idea was it?” It was her idea. I was reluctant at first so I made her wait. The water was still hot after a whole semester, so I knew it couldn’t go wrong. “Do you feel that you do have it on your terms?” All the good signs are there, everything by the book: she cancels the girl’s nights out to stay with me, we’re as much sex as we can, and often enough for me to notice, she voices her fear of me cheating (“dad said you were probably seeing your other girlfriend when you were out… Read more »
“Whose idea was it?” It was her idea. ~ She’s consolidating on you. You’re higher value than she is and she knows it. I was reluctant at first so I made her wait. ~ Your gut feeling was right The water was still hot after a whole semester, so I knew it couldn’t go wrong. ~ Yiu sure? Making her wait couldn’t go wrong because she was gonna wait. She has nowhere else to go. “Do you feel that you do have it on your terms?” All the good signs are there, everything by the book: she cancels the girl’s… Read more »
@HABD Thanks for the thought. I get the feeling there’s enough hot air it’s gonna just blow over this way anyway. Patent gets filed in Umurica and Yoorope next week. Slow start. Meantime it’s an interesting life. Spent Xmas away in the med and we were at a restaurant getting some food sat next to a .Deutsch couple my age. She’s looking at me and says “how cute we have grandchildren that age too” I say “yep they’re cute, hopefully one day they’ll give me grandchildren” The face on them…. You just see everything differently. Was getting son No.1 shoes… Read more »
@PalmaSailor “~ It’s a yes or no answer…” “~ That ^^ doesn’t mean you get it on your terms.” Do you go out on your own with the boys?” Yes. “Without getting shit?” Yes. “Actually sounds like she’s unbalanced.” It’s something she said very early into the relationship, and she never repeated it or anything like that again. I saw it for what it was: not a threat, but an amusing display of powerlessness. I say that she’s a catch because she is. Statistically. To be a virgin by this age, in a sausage fest – I mean, male dominated… Read more »
@Jagermeister
Well good luck.
Don’t forget to stop in here if you get any bumps along the way!
@PalmaSailor
Sorry if I sounded condescending. I don’t aim so high as to live the single life. It simply doesn’t align well with my long-term plans. My goal is to have the best that monogamy could offer to a man and nothing less than.
But enough about this…
Do any of you know any beta dudes that went through serious transformations? Some zero to hero stories? If yes what do you think was the real tipping point for them?
@Jagermeister
You didn’t sound condescending, so don’t worry about that.
But to effectively contain a monogamous relationship without it ending in a shit show you should understand game at its very basic level.
That means you should practice getting women on your own terms for at least a decade until you settle down.
Anyway good luck and obviously you’re welcome to hang out on here whenever you want.
Jaeger
Welcome. Welcome.
Let’s keep it simple. It’s unrestricted attraction for security.
Who’s providing the attraction and who’s providing security in this?
@Sentient
Yunno in all these years id never thought of exactly that question.
“Who’s providing the attraction and who’s providing security in this?”
Obviously both sides gotta give both or the relationship simply fails to be. But since she keeps making it clear she’s only interested in exclusivity, I’m not as worried about security as much as how much juice I can squeeze. I’m more worried about having as much high-quality sex (her enthusiasm being how I measure attraction) as if I was single and good at Game. For her it’s vice-versa. My attraction was a given, but not my commitment.
@ Jäger @Sentient will correct me if I’m wrong but her keep on going on about exclusivity means that she’s got you boxed off as beta provider. She wants exclusive access to your resources. She’s not ride or die where she’s so attracted to you she’d be there without any resources or security. Ie she just wants you for you and she’ll take whatever you give her, even if you’re banging other women she’ll stick with you and probably bring you other women to bang. Again @Sentient will correct me if I’m wrong but I think it’s you that should… Read more »
Jaeger – how Red Pill are you?
It seems, echoing Palma’s observation, there may be some Blue Pill “trading” going on here.
Consider she does not need security (of an exclusive relationship) to feel attraction. But do you need the security of her being monogamous with you? How does that feel? Is there a covert contract going on where you trade commitment for sex?
Rollo has this covered and I’ve forgotten the term but it’s your male obligation to perform.
Burden of Performance or Burden…
Have you guys come across PsycHacks channel on Youtube? Very good red pill content and the host has been getting quite a lot of visibility even on mainstream channels last year.
I can spew all the cope I want, what she’s giving is good but I know it’s not the best it could be. But I’m balls deep already. I don’t want to dump her, life’s finally given me a good year after a wasted, miserable youth and I just want to enjoy it. I want to feel like things could be good. I know what I should have done, I know things have to get worse before they get better when it comes to Game and love life, but I don’t how much worse can I take, I had to… Read more »
It’s hard to let go
@Jager
You’re just experiencing a chemical reaction which is biasing your choices in favour of the evo/bio priority.
I don’t have time to answer fully but I’ll try to soon.
Meantime there’s nothing wrong with you enjoying what you’ve got, it’s not a life decision (yet) and you’re entitled to change your mind. That means that you can say “I e thought about it, and I’m too young for exclusivity so that’s not on offer right now ”.. etc..
Moar later
Jaeger
Meantime there’s nothing wrong with you enjoying what you’ve got, it’s not a life decision (yet) and you’re entitled to change your mind. That means that you can say “I e thought about it, and I’m too young for exclusivity so that’s not on offer right now ”.. etc..
This.
Or you can just start spinning some plates anyway…
@Jager I forget your circumstances from the previous poasting so I’m lite on detail, perhaps you could refresh. Firstly, you’re getting secks which on a day to day basis which is better than not getting it so enjoy that. The second / third points are how you’re getting it, and why you’re getting it. The second and third point are important because they define how your life will play out. 99.999999% of men don’t truly understand how women work and are brainwashed by the FI and believe what women say as opposed to believing what their eyes show them that… Read more »
Question for the room on shit tests. Been receiving a few ST’s recently which I won’t bore you with. Suffice to say in context it was difficult to agree and amplify or reduce to absurdity so the default was ignore – which I think we agree is an incorrect strategy acceptable only as a last resort on a temporary basis. Predictably the ST’s didn’t let up and and I ended up going full bandit “WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOURE TALKING TO”… followed by me giving her a total dressing down and telling her to just fuck off. On… Read more »
@PalmaSailor re sh^t/fitness tests the overall goal for your response is to show you know what the underlying issue is ( her unspoken concerns) without resorting to exposition… with your ‘attitude’ conveying how you rate the seriousness of her concern… mostly ( in a mostly solid ongoing relationship) it’s just standard guardrail bouncing… to keep her in her lane… soo, not really serious at all… and in new relationships, you don’t have enough investment in her for anything to be serious…lol that’s why A&A works well as a default… all the actual communication is taking place in the liminal space…… Read more »
ps.
‘give her a slap ‘ is ALL liminal communication…lol
@HABD Underlying tension is that we’ve been given notice to get out of our rental because the landlord wants to sell and because of a lot of regulation changes resulting in higher taxes etc.. loads of landlords here are selling up so competition here is fierce for rental. We’re struggling to find somewhere to move to. Even offering 3 year contracts and 1 years advance rental payments ant over asking rent and we’re being outbid. Has deteriorated into a situation where we have offered to refurb the rental for the landlord just to get one in the right area with… Read more »
It’s 19:02 here by the way
Palma It’s necessary every once in a while to pop the stack. Here with the background, seems the testing is more related to instability. They react to the environmental threat in their irrational way. With 21st century women in particular they get bossy, I stead of sweetly feminine and say ” darling I’m scared”… Let her know you got this… “It’s going to be tough but we are going to be OK. We’ve been through tougher, I got this” and then set her on some small tasks that would help, and keep her occupied. Another “it’s not about the nail”… Read more »
@Everyone I don’t really have much of a place to talk about this but…
It seems Trump just created his own crypto coin just to do a pump and dump on his followers?
I don’t quite know whether to laugh or to be worried. For now, I laughed.
@IAS
I’m lovin this.. Trump is gonna out Crypto, crypto.
lol.
Yunnow, would it be that mad to just tank the dollar together with all the debt attached to it?
I mean I’m gonna need popcorn on a whole new scale..
Just gets better and better!