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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Marquis Sounds like your friend thinks your son should be turned Beta. It also sounds like your wife is undermining the boundaries you’ve set for the children. That needs addressing. Introversion is a learned behavior mostly installed by parents and society at large as a control mechanism. A shy quiet child/adult is easier to control and probably not a free thinker. At 15 years old my daughter ran away from my controlling, manipulative, attention seeking who micro managed my daughters life. My daughter became rebellious, skipped school, drugs, sex and was well on her way to becoming a burden to… Read more »

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+100 to what sentient said. … I wasn’t going to be the first one to reply 😁 because people can be overly touchy about their kids and usually don’t want to hear any truth. Children don’t have self discipline. I’ve never understood that way of thinking. Children must be taught everything starting from birth. They don’t have ” rights ” or any of that shit. That comes later on. I council young first time parents , especially those with sons, that by teaching and demanding discipline you will probably save the boys life, or at a minimum avoid run ins… Read more »

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Marquis Blax

From RT twatter… Consequences realized.

https://twitter.com/fabiangib/status/1222536670081355776

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gotta play that clip with the sound on… tears…lollololozlozlzolz

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Lmao!!!!

Don’t raise a slap toy.

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Sentient And Mike Land And Blaximus Thank you for this. Sentient, there have been so many incidents that I forgot to mention that a couple of weeks ago during one of the meltdown freakouts he actually did shove his mom quite hard. She wasn’t hurt but she was a bit freaked out for the first time herself. He’s still only 8, but she registered that he is getting stronger and CAN do damage. When I came home and heard about it, I did something I’ve never done before. I took him into another room and looked him dead in the… Read more »

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Marquis Keep in mind children operate just like women, instinct, then emotion. I’m very new to this party but am going to paraphrase from RM. Words (threats) are useless, actions speak. IMO your threat session with your son will pass from one ear to the other. Action in some form of discipline is required. On to teaching consequences. Just as RM can’t be distilled into a sound bite, neither can “Teen Proofing ” (TP). If you ever been micromanaged by an overbearing boss you will appreciate the approach of TP. Negotiating rewards for good behavior and consequences for bad behavior… Read more »

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I’m a twitter lurker, no responses to any tweets but follow Rollo and others from the “manisphere” as well as politics etc. I stay silent to keep a “clean” social media profile should perspective clients search me.

I feel somewhat safer here on this remote space.

Rollo posted a pic of a bikini beauty today with a caption “how would you open”.

I’m stumped but surely could use opinions from more experienced, game savvy men. This seems like a good space to discuss.

https://twitter.com/OldRowRadChicks/status/1223320308154847232/photo/1

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Yeah what’s your approach Mike?

Go ahead. Let’s.

This is good to think about.

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@TheMarquis Sentient and Having A Bad Day and Others welcome back! Back after a long time. Marriage going pretty well. Not perfect, not where I want to be, but generally good and I feel like I know what I am doing. Financial issues resolved for now and I have a plan. I have a question about my kids. My son is 8, my daughter is 5. Fighting constantly. I know siblings fight and the younger one always wants to play with the older one who thinks the younger one is annoying but this is extreme. I had a much bigger… Read more »

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Good breakdown HABD

So where you been?

and why do you think you have to ‘be fair’?…

My favorite response – “that’s why it’s called a double standard”…

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Blax

https://twitter.com/Train357/status/1222945487894065158

lolzlolzlolz… somebody put it to music. watch till the end. SOUND UP.

crying…

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and a credit to olde tyme CH resident “Vagina Dominator” – wherever he may be – who was a big proponent of open hand striking. Very effective.

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Oh my god, he is 130lbs at best against 250lbs, what did he think was gonna happen, clearly skipped physics classes in school.

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@Sentient

“So where you been?”

busy…lol

but that^^^ sh*t is critical mass… so i made some time…

good luck!

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Marquis

A reminder. Dad’s role.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdbKQ9vODU

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SJF told me once I needed to teach him “discipline without self-suppression”. I just don’t know how. lol… that’s bc there is no such thing…lol… SJF was talking about his adult age son… not an 8 year old… 8 year olds don’t get a vote…lol Heh. Nice. I got no advice. These guys covered it well. My kids, and my son didn’t actually have issues that I needed to handle. Their piers and my community left them is good stead behavior. (I showed this question and answer to my female medical assistant. She’s older than me. She brought up issues… Read more »

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Thank you to everyone. And particularly Having A Bad Day for taking the time to write a detailed reply like that. I hope one day I will be comfortable enough with all of this to pass it on to other men. I finally understand what I need to do in a way I didn’t before and I will execute. I have some questions about my daughter and how she’s learning BPD behaviour, but right now my son is the priority and she is only 5 so she can wait for the moment. The only real uncertainty I have now is… Read more »

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The Marquis, there are numerous reasons why discipline is done in private at the family level.

What happens at the woodshed stays at the woodshed.

At the public level we discuss what is unacceptable behavior not who is unacceptable.

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Society has effectively burned the woodshed down. It’s one reason we have so many ineffective males wandering the country.

You can’t Google your way out of this situation either.

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Marquis

Wake the fuck up broski.

Your wife is NOT going to get on board with this. Full stop. YOU are going to have to lay down the LAW with her and the kids. Full stop.

There will be [emotional] blood…

then I risk getting bogged down in committee discussion about the details of punishments and her nitpicking minor aspects of it

Lol. Captains issue orders. Full stop.

You got this but only if you don’t try tip toeing through the tulips. You can’t negotiate through this, which seems to be your MO. You conflict averse?

Yeah.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SB16k67aso4

From a not too distant past.

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Bias

That Chris Rock is great.

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Ugh and I was trying to stay out of here

“then I risk getting bogged down in committee”

There is no committee, it’s a dictatorship and you’re the man, own it and man the fuck up or they’ll own you

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Come on back Palma

You’re the hero this board needs.

Happy Brexit!

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Okay, here goes. First disclosure, I am a Christian. I say this not because I believe that non-Christians won’t be able to give me sound advice, but because the way that I choose to describe things might not be clear to a non-Christian. If my description of things is unclear just tell me and I will give it another go. I’m 60, been with my wife for close to 35 years. A little over a year and a half ago I discovered Rollo ( he’s a regular guest on my local morning talk show ). I listened to him regularly… Read more »

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I agree the man needs to be the dictator, and the enforcer of discipline. I have found that a pre negotiated penalty for a given bad behavior works. Similarly a pre negotiated reward for good behavior spells things out with no surprises to anyone. Get son/daughter/wife to negotiate the penalty/reward. Don’t take out garbage, negotiated penalty; 2 day loss of iPad. Son knows ahead of time what is coming if he fails. If you simply dictate a penalty you’ll get rebellion. If the penalty is prenegotiated the offending party knows whats coming. All you need to do is hold fast… Read more »

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@Wodan

If she’s sticking with you, and hasn’t fucked you over yet, there might be hope for you. Often it’s not that a woman has had better. It’s that she fears you becoming better. Reassurance doesn’t do it for this sort of thing. What does is actively letting her freak out while she tries to compute why you give a fuck about her despite being the shit. Hypergamy leads her to water. But Feminism tells her the water isn’t safe to drink.

Meditate on this.

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@Mike Land

Ok, Pappy. Don’t forget to listen actively. You should be golden. Engineering questions should be easy for one such as yourself to answer. Just remember we aren’t all engineers.

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@sentient Not sure I’m much of a hero but I miss you boys (no ghey) and the Male locker room to be honest. Funny thing about Brexit which probably translates across the pond to your challenges. I’ve been on a couple of things and I went last night: https://imgur.com/a/rUd6QDu But the thing is this, for the past few years everywhere I’ve turned up to so far, at any pro Brexit demonstration there were remoaner opponents, loads and loads of them shouting their mouths off with banners / flags / organisation / looking for a fight.. you couldn’t move for people… Read more »

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Palma

There is scant reporting here on what happened last night.

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Stick around. Lots to unpack. Check back Wednesday.

Mike Land.

Come on man. Do your homework. How would you open that girl?

Need to start there.

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how would I open?

I thought about it and would go with “great bikini, that tag kind of spoils it though” or some derivative of that.

I’m totally not against homework, and recognize I need to do much, much more.

I need to be able to come up with openers without pondering for half a day.

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Disclosure – I’m not religious

Others are going to unpack this more comprehensively than I will right now but a few quick points:

Go to the gym. The fact you’re in good shape is irrelevant. Do it for you.

Sort out your appearance. Get a haircut and buy some new clothes.

Not much, just new shoes or a shirt or something.

Do it on your own, it will send her batshit.

Refuse engagement about any of the above.

“You just felt like it” – change subject.

Batten down hard when she pushes, and she will push very very hard.

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Welcome back, Palma.

Bikini girl: I wouldn’t try to open direct. I’d try to get pre-selection somehow before opening her. Then I’d try to merge her into an existing set (with female(s) already” with “Hey you, come here meet my friends (…)”, maybe with a plausible “excuse” that we will play some kind of game together and another person would come in hand (which she obviously would know she is getting picked because she is hot, but still). That is the highest probability to hook that I can think of.

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Mike “how would I open? I thought about it and would go with “great bikini, that tag kind of spoils it though” or some derivative of that. I’m totally not against homework, and recognize I need to do much, much more. I need to be able to come up with openers without pondering for half a day.” How would you engage this girl? From my experience, and listening to countless women ( a shitload of ” hawt ” ones too ), there’s is no rational reason for a man to see one women so differently than another, just by first… Read more »

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Blax Excellent reply, thanks for taking the time. Much to ponder. My thoughts are that an opener would need to have a degree of “context”, in this case she’s on the beach and in a bikini, not a hell of a lot more to work with. I don’t have a wing, and and anticipate flying solo on these ventures. From what I’ve gathered from my first pass at MM game theory some form of a playful neg open is usually best which is why what came to mind for me is using what’s available and negging the bikini. My thinking… Read more »

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@Sentient @Blax So, I went out with “number” girl (the attention whore never replied lol). Here is what happened: I told her to meet me in a café in the city center, I went there 10-15 min earlier and as I got my coffee I went to look for a free table, turned out the place was packed and there were no tables, and guess what, I saw my ex and her friend (girl) sitting at a table together lol, what are the chances of all the places in the city, come on :D. Her friend saw me and I… Read more »

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@TheMarquis

two quick points …

+1 on Sentient’s advice… mom is never going to be ‘on board’… it’s not possible for her to do that… her hindbrain won’t let her…

take the ipod to work with you monday morning and bring home friday night… done!…lol…

and be ready to deal with the protesting from all 3… lol… but not kidding…

good luck!

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@Palmasailor

welcome!

congrats on brexit!…

how’s your son doing?

good luck!

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@HABD No improvement there. Some time before XMAS I phoned him and tried to arrange to see him at some point. He made the same string of improbable excuses why he couldn’t see me that he’d been using for the 3 months I was working in old friends house before Xmas. Including having to “study” even though his exams were over so there was nothing to study for. I was about a mile away from him for that time. In the end I said “stop insulting my intelligence with that shit son, the truth is you just don’t want to… Read more »

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@HABD Since you ask – Interesting turn of events before Xmas. As you know I’d been trying to avoid EEGF so was going to what was formerly my local pub to eat most evenings. (Perhaps I should have actually banged her bc I’m not now doing the project with old friend anyway) Chatting to all the barmaids and the owner. I’d been a regular there for 15 years. One particular barmaid very (too) young but very friendly – gave me extra chocolates etc with my bill (check) because I was one of her “favourites”. I’d been working on another slightly… Read more »

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@wodansthane This is a good place for you to air these problems. You’re going to get different answers, and the Bruce Lee method is strongly suggested: “Take what works, leave what doesn’t”. You might benefit from looking at this site if you have not already: https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/ However I am not at all sure that you’d be able to discuss your issue over there. This site just appeared recently, he created the site in response to Dalrock’s announcements. Some of Dalrock’s regular commenters have showed up – but not all of them are up to the discussion you need. https://joshuas-path.com/ It… Read more »

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PalmaSailor
Since you ask – Interesting turn of events before Xmas.

I cannot help laughing out loud. Not at you, but with you. No matter how awkward it coulda been a whole lot more awkwarder right?

Lol!

Ahem. When some of us sez “There’s a hunger out there in the 20-something women for masculinity” — you see it too, yes?

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@Anonymous Reader The younger one (Alfies friend) was too young and slightly geeky but fun, slim, intelligent and good company. I would usually drive so not drink very much at all but on one night I had decided to get a taxi so could have more than the 1-2 pint limit. I was working on the “older” one. Obviously that just fell over totally as things turned out but I had nearly, and I say nearly, got a lift back home from the pub one night from her. In the final analysis she bottled it (not enough C – story… Read more »

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Field report It’s 1 pm here so my local pub is just opening and a 20 yo hot student barmaid is outside sweeping up after last nights mess. I’m walking past to do something else. I’ve been bantering with her for months but unable to get a straight escalation for a number of reasons (including but not limited to my own MPO as a result of societal programming) Me : hey (eye contact and smile at her) you missed a bit (neg) Her : (laughs & looks down – submissive) how’s the building work at your place going? – flicks… Read more »

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@Yollo, That’s an interesting observation, I WILL meditate on that. @Sentient, Thanks, will be back to read your thoughts. @Palma. Will try these and your suggested follow-through. Will update results, probably next week. @Anonymous, I have deepstrength’s book. good book. Glad you’re here. always respected and enjoyed your comments @Dalrock. Good to get such swift response from commenters I think are thoughtful.

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@wodansthane Work on your health and fitness for yourself but it will help with DHV and dread Start dressing better – my wife noted immediately and asked who is she, and I didn’t change much at all If you want to turn it around you want to be the one she fixates on, you want to become her one. work on a DHV whenever possible in every area that you can – woman thirst for authentic male competencies – that is a core feature of hypergamy Then start putting yourself in positions where passive dread can occur. Start running catch… Read more »

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@Wodansthane “I’m 60, been with my wife for close to 35 years.” I’m 59 and been with her for 39 years. She’s Catholic I’m Lutheran. “A little over a year and a half ago I discovered Rollo ( he’s a regular guest on my local morning talk show ). I listened to him regularly for a few weeks, I don’t recall exactly what he said that hit home,” Yup “but it was like he’d been observing me personally. So I started reading his books, when I got to chapter 4 of Preventative Medicine and read the section on The Turning,… Read more »

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Mike Land From what I’ve gathered from my first pass at MM game theory some form of a playful neg open is usually best which is why what came to mind for me is using what’s available and negging the bikini. My thinking is; it doesn’t have a tag but she would instantly second guess that at which point I could follow with something like “I’m just messing with you” and engage in further convo. Not bad. Just don’t fall into the trap of thinking an opener has to be a neg. Use negs judiciously, and in general don’t neg… Read more »

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Openers are not magik, incantations, spells…

If in doubt, mind blank, moving targets etc…

“hey” is reliable.

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wodansthane [TRIGGER WARNING] so this is going to be succinct and sugar free… Okay, here goes. First disclosure, I am a Christian. I say this not because I believe that non-Christians won’t be able to give me sound advice, but because the way that I choose to describe things might not be clear to a non-Christian. So why the “Wodan’s Thane” moniker? Are you repressing something? That would be very, very Christian of you… what’s wrong with being a pagan? If the philosophy allows you to get what you want? why be a christian if the philosophy doesn’t get you… Read more »

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*Have decided to set the scene, arrive late at night one night next week and hit her up again at Tempe end of her shift for banana 911. straight from the bar to my kitchen. You could hit my front door from the pub if you threw a ball. Observations?* Sounds like a plan Palma. You should sniff out the logistics first before you commit to the invite. Avoid the “ohhh I’m meeting friends” or “ooooh my aunt’s cat is sick” blah blah blah. A bit of background – I’m not doing phone numbers, instead I’ve decided with VYW the… Read more »

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Thanks for the comments Sentient I have read MM and watched a number of videos. So far it’s conceptual, however I am comfortable opening conversations with strangers. What I need is the structure of MM. The 3 stages of learning are see, do, teach. I am still well in the see portion. You have reinforced what I’ve read. It’s time to apply (do) and calibrate. I’ve also been thinking of “routines” and writing them down, honing my stories, hooks etc and practicing out loud just as I do for presentations. Most of my stories have been told many times before… Read more »

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On a different note I’m going to vent a little here, and I know the solution to this problem is within myself. I’m divorced now for 3 years after a 10 year relationship. I’m still angry. After reading TRM and a bunch of other psych I see what went wrong (me becoming a beta simp). I’m still angry, and was angry in the tail end of the marriage for all of the ungratefulness. I literally built a house for that woman, as in with my own hands, from foundation to roof and everything inside. I gave up all of my… Read more »

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Mike Land

the petty part of me wants revenge, justice, or even just a simple acknowledgement. I also know it’s stupid and not forthcoming.

You may be surprised yet. Maybe a few years from now, when you are killing it… and she pops up out of the woodwork and tells you she was an idiot and wants you back. It’s fairly standard.

Now don’t hold onto this as any kind of hope. It’s just further evidence that this shit works. It’s a natural result.

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@Sentient It’s a sort of locals pub over here. We don’t really tip but the odd schmuck buys them a drink. Sometimes they refuse that if the “price” is going to be too high: ie they’re stuck talking to the idiot all night. Long story short – if they don’t like you then you’ll get served last and they won’t piss on you if you’re burning never mind talk to you because they’re minimum wage and it makes no difference. This one has been chatting over the months, making faces and poking me as I walk past. This is gonna… Read more »

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@Mike Land

“I literally built a house for that woman, as in with my own hands, from foundation to roof and everything inside.”

I did that too so you’re not alone.

Unfortunately it was a waste of time, it was regarded as hers and taken for granted the minute you’d built it and more was expected from that point on.

The most valuable part of that was what you’ve learned from it – ie don’t do it again unless you want to and it’s for you.

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@wodansthane you are getting great advice… +1 on Sentient’s breakdown… read that breakdown through at least five times (not a typo…lol) with a couple hour break between each read-through… (@Sentient – good breakdown… thanks for picking up my slack…lol) some quick points… most important first step: But, WHY are you doing the work? … WHAT DO YOU WANT from this? you need to have a goal/end point to work toward… and having your personal “come to jesus” talk with yourself is the key… do this first… next, that Loooooong pattern of behavior. applies to YOU… she only reacts and sh*t… Read more »

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Palma *I think it needs more plausible deniability? – it just happened.. etc.. Any ideas?* Yes it’s this – and isolation. They are in a safe space there and get to get their titillation and validation from you and go home and take it out on their guys. Because they don’t have a way to offer it up to you and not be slutty. Direct to your house is too big a step, they know what’s up. So arrange something else, going to another place to try some food or drink, a party, a show/band etc. Something with others around… Read more »

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@Sentient

“even randy old sluts want to play the game…”

I reckon I’m one chess move from getting them both at once.

Aaaaaaand that would probably be easier bc if I invited them BOTH somewhere then no one would suspect a thing…

A threesome ! Don’t be ridiculous!!

There’s no way my guurlfriend would do anything like that – she doesn’t even really like sex!!!

You get my point?

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@PalmaSailor sorry to hear about your son, but that story about his friend was funny…lol… i know much communication is lost over the interwebs (and more so from second-hand telling), but that story about about your son not wanting to see you, but you still getting a christmas card from him would lead me to believe that he is caught in the middle… and being a kid, he is resolving it in the way that results in the least amount of distress/stress/anxiety wrt his daily life… it sounds like he still wants to keep the lines of communication with you… Read more »

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Palma You get my point? Yup. They have great cover stories… Definitely one approach. have them both over… Another approach, the old “reverse psychology” gambit… “You’re just a tease” “you’re a big talker” “you couldn’t handle it” “you probably suck in bed”… All coy.. I have one local waitress like this as well, always wanted to hug and touch and even taken to calling me “stud”… lol “That’s Mr. Stud to you”… But I’ve started to pull back from her kino… be shorter than usual, pay more attention to others etc. see if she amps it up or just playing.… Read more »

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@HABD Yes he’s a hostage, the problem that we have identified before is that no ransom could ever be enough. It’s not about the ransom, it’s about the possession of the hostage. Any proposed ransom Payment on my part will just result in shrieks that it’s not enough – never enough – it will not be permitted to be enough. So the hostage needs to break free. There was a bit more to it. At the suggestion of a friend over here i put a note in his Xmas card saying the day he was born was the happiest of… Read more »

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@Sentient It’s very interesting actually the more I flirt with the younger hotter staff the more the older ones get jealous. Temporarily to take my mind off my son I’ve got a photo of my dad laying a minefield in North Korea on my laptop as background. (He took his camera on tour) https://imgur.com/a/1HDgMea One of the “men” they employ has been bitching and whingeing about “hurting himself” while installing a dishwasher. I’m just laughing at him. So the desktop picture has been picked up on by the nosey younger girls and I’m “yes that’s what men were like, now… Read more »

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I know I govern my own mood, outlook etc but the petty part of me wants revenge, justice, or even just a simple acknowledgement. I also know it’s stupid and not forthcoming. If you didn’t get justice or revenge in court during the divorce don’t count on it anywhere else. I would be quite surprised if you did get any of that in court. Being financially bruised sucks. I know how that plays out and the long term impact. You can recover with time and hard work. The other stuff? It’s all ego man. You can move past that when… Read more »

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Roused

Most guys on here won’t admit it, but ego plays a huge role in all the hurt, angst and quest for revenge and justice.

Ego is also responsible for a lot of success and a sense of self worth.

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Update on my situation. She signed (reluctantly), made things a bit faster. Papers went through. I’m officially divorced.

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@IAS

Well done

That’s the end of that

Move on

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IAS

That was quick. Best to you. And her.

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@IAS

I’m officially divorced.

’bout time, dude…lol

congrats!…

feels better, right?…

good luck!

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@PalmaSailor

You’re thinking posting the odd physical thing rather than text etc…

Drawing a cock on things used to cause us both a laugh, perhaps I’ll have to take it back to basics.

something like that…lol

the medium is the message… the fact that you mail something to him consistently is what counts, not so much what it is… think of it like a moral booster for the hostage…

good luck!

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IAS

Simultaneously, congratulations and condolences.

Now, Life is up to you and what you understand moving forward, and you will move forward.

Best wishes man.

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@IAS:

Live well.

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Wodansthane. IAS

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dOgB4aaZhZM

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@HABD

Last year I posted @youngshagger an original Pirelli calendar for his year of birth on his birthday.

If I did the same for my son who will be turning 17 next month then this would be it:

https://models.com/work/pirelli-calendar-pirelli-calendar-girls-2003-by-bruce-weber/459890

He’d just love it.

Might disturb the equilibrium in the hen house a bit because she’ll still be treating him like he’s 5 and this would be me recognising he’s turning into a man.

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@HABD: yes it does feel better. Whether residual BP conditioning or not, I was never 100% comfortable with “cheating”. I was often wondering what kind of Frame or MPoO is this if I have to worry about her finding out about whatever. But it was more than just that… I am unable to lift her from her own sadness – I told her since before I was RP her happiness was her responsibility and I believe that. One can talk Burden of Performance, but one can just as well mention Captain Save-a-Ho (I still cringe a bit about using this… Read more »

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PalmaSailor I’m out of options apart from keeping communication open, but critically, she’s out of ammunition, there really isn’t any more she can launch. So when he decides to break free it’ll be a big deal. The Rolodex is finite. Girls have only so many ways they can pick a fight or otherwise attempt to start trouble. There’s times when a man doesn’t believe that, he says to himself “Crap, here’s another different one!” but that’s just taking counsel of fear. He’s gonna age out of her control, and at some level in the back of her head she knows… Read more »

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@Anonymous Reader Thanks for your words. I don’t know how much I’ve said about my past / or how much you’ve picked up of it but my mother was a mentally ill drug addict – Munchausen Syndrome (luckily not by proxy). Since before I could remember there was drama. As you and others have pointed out – the same drama repeatedly – the Rolodex was limited. I used to come home from school find her in her dressing gown in a puddle of her own piss on the kitchen floor totally off her face / burnt out cigarettes surrounding her.… Read more »

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@IAS – congratulations on the divorce. @Palma – welcome back. Hope your break from TRM left you refreshed. @All – re the “hot bikini girl open” – assuming you had to open her exactly as in the picture (ie, she is alone – rare for a hot girl – and strolling on the beach), then I would do a variation of what IAS suggested. Ideally max your social proof with hot girls (but even any girls is better than none and male friends is better than alone) and then walk past her and make some kind of dismissive gesture (not… Read more »

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Culum Struan
thank you for introducing me to this platform of field reports. and also thank you for your advice. I will start reading some basic stuff about game and start talking to girls right away.
thank you again

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@ wodansthane Apologies for the delay, I’m still working over a reply to you in my head. I have two thoughts for now. First, while physical improvement is very important – lifting will increase your circulating T, changing the way you move, the way you speak, your vocal timbre and even the way you smell, all key stuff her hindbrain needs – the inner Game / mindset is equally important. I suggest you start carefully reading, re-reading and meditating on the relevant parts of Ephesians: you have authority over her. You don’t need her agreement, you don’t need some pastor… Read more »

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Couple of beers last night in local pub with new neighbour. (Owns a CL600 so I knew he wouldn’t be woke and be OK – and I was right). Third barmaid I haven’t been paying much attention to was on shift. Not as good looking but still a would bang. Ignored her most of the night but while the Guinness was settling we were talking – she very nervous / timid / was studying photography. Nerd alert… now I’m in bat Me: oh really, digital or film? Her: oh well digital but I’ve done some film, I want to do… Read more »

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PalmaSailor Yer up early, if I read my clock right. (Owns a CL600 so I knew he wouldn’t be woke and be OK Wot, an electric screwdriver? Really? I admit it does look wicked, but still… https://hios.com/EN/products/driver/CL-6000/ Me: I used HP5 and microphen developer, you can push it up to 3200ASA for brilliant low light stuff but you have to increase the processing temperature up to about 25degree C Her : starry eyed says – teach me… Well, there’s that hunger again. Now you can talk about fine grain vs. coarse grain…as you prefer. This reminds me, when I was… Read more »

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@Anonymous Reader Whilst your CL600 is an incredible tool, ownership of which would indeed denote not only apex masculinity but non woke status my neighbor has got one of these: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LRPWcyxeytg The other Tesla driving woke neighbour has a little nervous breakdown every time the engine starts and his windows rattle. Yes 40 deg C would strip the film, you only increase the temperature enough to fire up the chemical reaction a bit. You also have to invert the processing tank every 30 seconds or so otherwise air bubbles stick to the film and that bit is under processed. So… Read more »

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^^ she’ll also have to beg steal or borrow a light meter from somewhere

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I became the third generation owner of the family Leica M3 just as I had backed completely out of film. Is a puzzlement.

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^ mm no surprise there M3 – old school purist, next you’ll be telling us you’ve got a valve amplifier

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SMSL AD18 driving KEF Q100s, smart TV or tablet as transport, but in the 20th century I did run a Dynaco into AR-4xs.

Oddly enough, since digital gear and media can be made so compact these days, the more of it I deploy the more Victorian my house returns to looking. No more Wall o’ LPs and VHS tapes and even 2.5″ drives are starting to look old and clunky to me. TVs and monitors of quite substantial screen size can be made to disappear when they aren’t actually in use. Even some lamps are returning to cordless.

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M3’s? Now we are tawkin

But yeah those 12 cylinder monsters are so sweet. You can get them now 80-90% depreciated, low miles… $25k to $35K mid aughts…

Renntech chip for $1200 and you are over 700/700…

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@Sentient

Never been in an M3, no idea who these silly boys are playing around in an M4…

https://imgur.com/a/1A3Fl9E

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M3’s or any luxo performance auto are only for 2 kinds of people. 1) those that are mechanically inclined enough to service them themselves. 2) those who can afford to pay to have them serviced, and can get rid of these things after 2-3 years of ownership. Just be prepared to take a financial hit. Value falls through the floor. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9v4j6-nHK5Q Copious use of cheap plastics in the engine bay is rendering beemers as notoriously unreliable over time and mileage. In the 80’s I had a 750il that I absolutely adored. Beautiful car. But to save money I almost had… Read more »

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Stefan missed your FR It would’ve been so awkward for me if we had sat there ( if there were any free tables ). If your prior GF was as hot or hotter than the number girl, it would have worked in your favor to be there with them both. preselction is the most powerful of attraction switches. Anyway, we met up outside and walked to a different café together, talked for almost 2 hours and I said I had to go and we left. During the interaction I would say it was about 50:50 me and her talking. This… Read more »

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So I think I’ll say we’ll do a late night low light session at the beech and then well walk back and develop the film in my kitchen.

She can probably borrow the stuff from college and we’ll need a dark bag, thermometer, graduated measuring vessels, and a film development tank – preferably with a stainless spiral.

I buy the film and chemicals (bc she’s broke student) and we’ll take it from there.

Plausible deniability + massive DHV + Isolation + wine + escalation = bang

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Meanwhile Lyon doing Lyon stuff with cameras and such

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8M7C5BgJhp/

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On the photography front. I’d shoot something forgiving like a TX 400. Teach bracketing and go on a photo safari. Bathroom developing is somewhat easy. Arrange for late afternoon shoot, develop after. Loading dev tanks after dark in a closed bathroom is safe and no dark bag required. Bring a practice roll to teach loading. do the first in the lit room with the practice roll. Load the real roll in the dark together in the darkened bathroom. Things should develop. Processing the film is easy enough, hang in the bathroom. Raising the humidity is required for dust control, best… Read more »

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@Sentient / all Follow up Back to local pub tonight on my own to start with then another local guy showed up – he’s mid 60’s is banging a 35 y/o and he’s an amateur boxer. I’ve badged him “punchy” just for a laugh. Plus he owns half real estate opposite local pub. Good conversationalist and good company / good with women. Photographer student barmaid is there, as is low self esteem (LSE) barmaid who is “bar supervisor” and therefore senior to photographer student. I think I’ve said it before but LSE is banging a 40 year old but he… Read more »

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Palma Sailor
Meh…..

Great jealousy entertainment in that FR!

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@Sentient Interesting that Steve Lyon is using old school kit, the Mamiya R series he’s using is at least 15 years old and Fuji film he’ll have to deal with in a darkroom with the Smells And actual theatre that come with that. I was saying to photographer girl last night that digital just doesn’t have the romance that film does, I only ever did black and white, but you get a feeling through the shadows and grain that is difficult to replicate. With a fairly modest set up and a bit of non needy / non nerdy skill and… Read more »

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@Wahoo. Actually, she has thrown it in my face, while we were in bed. Hard not to take that personally. But you’re right, can’t fix the past. Thanks for clarifying some of these concepts. It will be a big help going forward, @ Sentient. “Trigger warning”, really?! Glad I have kittens and coloring books on hand. Seriously though, thanks. It’s easier to take straight. The moniker is from when I was a practicing heathen. Conflicted I may be, but not repressed. Not with that anyway. She’s not my first, wife. My experience, n-count under 20. Yeah, I get that this… Read more »

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