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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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What could j say without flashy PUA verbage?

He could complain about his daddy issues and his feelings of loneliness.

He claims yeoman’s work here. He’s no more AF than he ever was.

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Here is the thing. I said my game is shit provided I am going out of my way to seek girls. Like Intellect,SFJ, and PS said it is best for me to make myself the my own mental origin, and just be an attractive guy that exudes confidence and is pleasant to be around in my school, or any social scene I am in. That is where it all is on my terms and that is what I should strive for. That way girls talk and I can build my SMV in my school that way without having to seek… Read more »

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@Sentient If he’s 17 and he’s asking us for advice, then he’s going to have to step it up. Where I live it’s like high school. Everyone is into everyone else’s shit.

You have to be smart and have good game and ZFG to spin plates like I’m doing at my age.

But since he’s a new and if I knew back in HS what I know now…I would have been working the pre-selection angle—something I never understood until I started exploring Game.

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“Oh and now j is a track star”.

Nah. Always have been….I brought it up when blax started comparing accomplishments before 25.

Now this:

“Before he posted he was D-1 football scholarship…yet can’t get laid until 25.”

lol. Same old amog tactics.

make shit up that I never said or did or happened. Then I defend myself. Then silence. Rinse repeat.

“you gamma faggot”

…Beginning to think your gay bro.

“j suggests he finds a gf that has chemistry….wow… how novel”

Ah going with the same ole reliable amog tactic. Because once wasn’t enough apparently… lol

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YoungShagger Don’t get caught up in the board battles here lol. I don’t think you will. J is trying to make up for lost time as a former incel. It’s common on game / PUA boards to run into these kinds. He’s adopted the loathsome identity of a “PUA” or “slayer”, which is not a good look. It’s certainly not an ethos. It causes you to do silly things like post pics of common 6s for validation. He also doesn’t understand how to get along in a group of guys. As the current commercial goes “he’ll figure it out”. Or… Read more »

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@Sentient:
LOL at that “lost many lays to actually studying”.

A fun memory from me with a very cute girl that was in Med-school but asked to study something, and then at the end she is grabbing my hand and groping it is telling me I have “a good hand to study anatomy” (because I’m think and she can feel all the bones LOL), this just as my girlfriend (now my wife) arrives…

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“Where I live it’s like high school. Everyone is into everyone else’s shit.

You have to be smart and have good game and ZFG to spin plates like I’m doing at my age.”

The difference though is your girls are spread out all over and if you blow up a haunt you can go to a new one.

He bangs two different girls in his AP Physics class after homecoming, he can’t change classes or schools… Lol.

That’s the dynamic, the forced constant interaction and all the social jostling that creates.

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Palma “I’m gonna get tested hard for secret society “safety” aren’t I… That will take the form of questioning me about my girlfriend status. They’ve seen me with various women over time but I have never discussed detail..” I doubt you get tested. And not like this. They are married, they want dick not boyfriends. They’ve set the table for you because you already ping as the Alpha guy who “gets it”. Sure if they ask just say you never kiss and tell, but any test will likely be along the lines of your neediness or “not getting it” that… Read more »

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Ah missed you weren’t near home.

Well fix those logistics Hoss. Hotel with a quiet discreet bar and an elevator to your room. Book after they agree.

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@Sentient I’ve become much more careful about that situation as of late. But a lot of this has to do with establishing yourself as somewhat aloof and a mystery. Then you tend to attract women who are good at keeping secrets—like the one I banged and then who ran off with dude with the car—as if she’s going to blab to others about THAT! The irony is that the High School scenario NEVER ends it just morphs into a work scenario, or a special interest group scenario, or a bar scenario where you start knowing everyone who goes. I now… Read more »

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“Does that plan make sense?”

Complete sense. Keep it up and I look forward to all to come.

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Back in 2004, a guy named Franco wrote The Manual of Seduction. Here is and excerpt on Attraction: “Attraction You will not be able to seduce a woman unless you create attraction in her. Attraction is not a rational fact. To create attraction you just have to: Show a higher VALUE than hers. Have her emotional. Because of her strong instinct for selecting the strongest and most gifted men, a woman doesn’t feel real attraction for a man who fails to show a higher value than hers. A woman may naturally choose a man with a lower value than hers… Read more »

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“Beginning to think your gay bro.”

I’ve nothing to hide. j has everything to hide. No chops.

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@YoungShagger

This may come in handy too:
https://bdproducts.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/The_Unchained_Man_The_Alpha_Male_2.0.pdf

Absorb what is useful, discard what is not, and add what is specifically your own. ~Bruce Lee

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@ Sentient

The cities I travel are not clubbing towns. People hook up in bars and in social groups and common activities.

You’re in LA. Is clubbing as popular as it has been? What changes have occurred, if any, in how dance clubs are run over the last 35-40 yrs?

I ask, as clubbing…long entry ques, cover charges, dance, drinks, bass driven music, table service…seems overwrought for hook-up. The internet as a validator for women…..takes a lot of steam out that highly stylized venues, IMO.

Most of the 12 or so dance clubs have closed by me. There’s one left and it is dilapidated.

Thanks.

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Eh

I’m not in LA, but I do travel there regularly. Most of my game is in upscale lounges and hotel bars, restaurants with good bar scenes, some rooftops and the street (day and night). A few dives thrown in here and there. Not clubs like you are describing. Having put in enough time, I limit myself now to venues that I enjoy going to for the most part. LA does have a great mix of these kind of places though.

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@Palmasailor @ HABD / Sentient So i went to the coffee shop again today where I road tested Doctor of Orgasmology, and followed up with ankles behind your ears line. Same Girl has been “thinking” with the other girl that works there that the three of us should go out for a few drinks “while I’m in town”. just don’t cheat them out of this opportunity for a threesome…lol… but not really kidding… when are they ever going to get a chance like this again?… Both married. So its secret society and It’s either one of them or both together… Read more »

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@Palmasailor @HABD Will see them before anyway so will ping for logistics Frustrating thing – Doing a project with an old friend and crashing during the week in the guest suite on one wing of his pile but also car sitting while he’s away with GF. So have the house to myself. We’ve bought many girls back but he is very touchy about who comes back. Would be impossible to get away with it and be considered disloyal – would destroy a friendship. got it… bros before hoes… and good choice… just make the girls work it out… and if… Read more »

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YoungShagger Here is the thing. I said my game is shit provided I am going out of my way to seek girls. Like Intellect,SFJ, and PS said it is best for me to make myself the my own mental origin, and just be an attractive guy that exudes confidence and is pleasant to be around in my school, or any social scene I am in. That is where it all is on my terms and that is what I should strive for. That way girls talk and I can build my SMV in my school that way without having to… Read more »

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Palma What gives? / my sons voice and speed of response were not congruent with the refusal. Tree meet apple… He’s your son right? So he gives a little bit – because in his heart he does want to reconcile – then puts his back up to show strength etc. Think your offer was great, puts the ball back in his court in a non threatening way. Gives him an avenue to back down… “so the food doesn’t go to waste” or whatever. Hey if it doesn’t come off this time, stay ZFG frame and try again next time. Time… Read more »

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@Palmasailor @HABD So part of this current project is the next stage in my plan. (Its all the same mate below) The last stage wiped out the bulk of my cash, but I still function just fine day to day. The structure had to change and that’s done now so I can move on with the next stage, we are more or less on track. I’m crashing at my mates pad in the week and that’s ten minutes from my son. Here’s the disconnect, after the last interaction my son told me not to contact him. I said “ok if… Read more »

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@Palmasailor @HABD It didn’t actually go “bad” as such. He’d already declined the offer before we had the talk. that didn’t actually come through on your comment… I know what I’ve said about the do’s and dont’s of apologising but the thing is my gut is telling me not to. And he didn’t flare up at that, if anything the calm tone of me just saying that I’d always done what I thought was right, including fighting in court for him calmed him down. There was absolutely zero animosity, and up to now there has been a lot. that’s good…… Read more »

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Sentient, SJF, and Eh That all helps a lot. Like I said, I think my best move is to study and try to implement game when I can in my free time in a way that does not interfere with my compulsory activities. But talk about total trial run playground for me this year in highschool. There are maybe 500 girls juniors and seniors that are at least 17, but the college I am going to has 7000 undergraduate students and it is a couple miles away from Chicago and it connects to their train loop. There will be no… Read more »

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@Palma
Shit.. is this a fucking skateboard thing?
I sold it actually for £20. I transferred him the £20 when he asked about it.

Replace ‘skateboard’ with ‘link to that other life we had/could have’ (includes you) and read how that sounds.

The concept of ‘wanting to just get it’ doesn’t apply only to girls.

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@ Palma There’s a difference between a man 1) apologizing to tactically escape servile fear or filial loss and 2) apologizing as a man feels he has done something wrong and must make amends. Your son is a clear-headed young man in a manipulative environment. He can tell the difference between the two apology types and will appreciate your extension of good will. I’ve said something to the effect to others after I’ve botched things: I’m looking to be better in many ways and appreciate your input. You’re a smart guy and I appreciate that too. If there is anything… Read more »

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Hi, I decided to post because, I’m a guy going through some shit and don’t know where to turn for advice. Someone said to try this msg. board. Ok, here’s my situation: I’m 44 but look much younger most people think I’m in my late 20’s. I had horrible experiences with girls growing up. And ended up getting my first real gf in my early 20’s we have been tog. since then 8 yrs. bf/gf and 13yrs. married. I have always been attracted to other women but just thought she was my only option. Once I hit my late 30’s… Read more »

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Regent,

Welcome.

First off, I’d like to get specific what you want. Your life is drifting aimlessly. You do things, have great ideas and potential, yet feel unfulfilled.

What part of your life represents your biggest disappointment and we’ll start there. It’s easy to be buried by all the little misgivings unless we relax, step back a little, and view yourself from a 3rd person perspective together.

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Regent

Just go see a lawyer and get it done. There is no there there in your situation and you will be dead before you know it.

Your welcome.

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Holy hell, Sentient! He won’t be in any better situation after the divorce as hell not have changed him m.o. one bit. He’ll wash rinse and repeat with the FI fueled divorce corp applause. Listen Regent. If you want some order in your life you can get it. If you want some anarchy, you can get that too. There’s little sensible meaning going on in your life ATM and a divorce will give your life meaning and diversify your portfolio and give you places to be and meet important people, yet you’ll be back where you are RIGHT NOW after… Read more »

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““Wife is now overweight, spouts off typical huffpo feminist nonsense , and cant fathom why I’m not attracted to her.” If she’s asking why you’re not attracted to her you could tell her “I’m not attracted to an overweight typical huffpo feminist. That’s not whom I married. I’ll be at the tavern.” That’d re-establish your zfg and begin the reconstruction. I’m the opinion, fat shrew-like women can be dread thin and silent. RP asserts women are beholden to evo-bio natures. RP asserts women will change themselves into anything they need to become for sake of AF/BB access. If so, then… Read more »

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Ah, Regent, just in case you didn’t get it, Palmasailor is being sarcastic. I can’t really help with your situation as I don’t have comparable experience but many of the married guys here will be able to help you. It seems to me though that you need to start from the beginning and really work on yourself and improve yourself and learn about the Red Pill and basically figure out what you want in life. You should read Rollo’s first book at least (or the Best Of section on this site) for the basic principles of the Red Pill. You… Read more »

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long time – @J – I see nextasf has gone. Skills told me to search reddit for masf to find the temp reddit sub but nothing seems to comes up for me. Can you post a link or something Are all the same posters there? Grodmesiter, skills, bachos(sp?) (the male model dude who girls always hit on) etc?

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Regent Ehintellect Palma Holy hell, Sentient! He won’t be in any better situation after the divorce as hell not have changed him m.o. one bit. Well he will be better off without her for sure. so there’s that. As to your second point, that’s afir, he does need to work on himself. But that is easily done without this kind of baggage. Look, if he had kids, if he said he loved his wife, she was a good person, he wanted to bang her… – sure he can knuckle under and try and turn this aorund. But as your story… Read more »

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@ Sentient

I agree with your analysis and will wait until Regent replies.

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Regent
While this is a great resource for Red Pill Theory, you can also head over to Reddit to marriedredpill. They talk A LOT about these exact issues and sometimes they give helpful advice. A word of caution, they too can be a bit rough, especially if you just post without looking at any reference material. (It’s like posting here –“I’ve never read The Rational Male, but I need someone to spoon-feed me some help.”)

You can change your life for the better, I did, but you have to put in the work.

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My job is to help a person from a to b. The jouney is theirs alone.

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Not a troll, have read Rational Male posts, yes getting clear on direction I agree with. Palma who cares if I’m 44? Didn’t you get divorced and start over around that age? Like I said most people think I’m 27. It’s just I can’t stop looking at other women. Especially younger women. Been propositioned etc. but once they find out you’re married. Then they freak out.

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@Regent it seems super difficult to deal with women on any level. They seem to change personalities by the minute, and send mixed signals. Looks like this was written for you: https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/06/the-medium-is-the-message/ Recently in the past few years I basically got “Me Tooed” several times just for joking around and flirting,nothing that would constitute harassment. You mean you were shamed for your behavior? Or pushed through a legal process? Related reading: https://therationalmale.com/2017/11/09/the-creep-part-1/ (see also part 2 and 3) Wife is now overweight, spouts off typical huffpo feminist nonsense , and cant fathom why I’m not attracted to her. Face it:… Read more »

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“Been propositioned etc. but once they find out you’re married. Then they freak out.”

Lots of women will bang married guys. I suspect you are doing something to hide the fact upfront and then surprising them with it. You doing online stuff?

MeToo comes from a guy appearing one way and then revealing himself another way… Sheep in wolf’s clothing syndrome.

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Yes I mean shamed, not arrested for anything, ha, ha And yes I often would hide that I’m married while flirting. And yeah that pisses alot of girls off. Recently example was joking with some chunky girl about her tats at an event and made a funny innuendo. I felt we had a good rapport etc. So it wasn’t out of the blue. She apparently freaked out and got me banned from. the place even though I was just joking around, she also said I was following her around when I wasn’t! And I wasn’t even into this chick!!!!!, just… Read more »

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Regent, I’m confused yet to your ends. Do you want to not feel bad about desiring hot women? Do you want to reify your masturbation fantasies (serious question)? Take a moment, dial back your artistic whimsical nature. You won’t arrive at your destination if you never pick one. Get specific and limit yourself to 1 major objective. If you have to think in “I just can’t stop xxxx” then realize this: you choose chaos as having options is more validating to you than actually choosing and acting on something concrete. This stuff is as easy to understand as you will… Read more »

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@Palmasailor

quick thought…

@HABD

It didn’t actually go “bad” as such. He’d already declined the offer before we had the talk.

did he have a chance to accept the offer ‘after’ you had the talk… in a way that would allow him to save face and look like he wasn’t ‘caving on his principles’?…

if not, might be worth another shot in the morning before the event… (not sure what the time diff is… you might be at the dinner already…lol)

good luck!

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IRL,
Wife is attracted to me, I remember you from another forum, and thought you were a little bit too harsh then.

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@IAS: Your question, although it has a scientific component to it, is a matter of philosophy. It boils down to these issues: What is life. What is the value and meaning of life. These are matters that can be discussed and certainly have been, but it might be a flaw in life that we are even capable of asking the questions. One defining characteristic of life is that it reproduces itself. From a certain perspective your individuality is an illusion. Life is not a thing, it is a process. You are an instantiation of that process, something like a cell… Read more »

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Ehsentient, I see what you mean, yeah it’s just like primal emotional conflict going on. And I think my persona and perception is different because of my artistic nature.

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“Recently example was joking with some chunky girl about her tats at an event and made a funny innuendo. I felt we had a good rapport etc. So it wasn’t out of the blue. She apparently freaked out and got me banned from. the place even though I was just joking around, she also said I was following her around when I wasn’t!” That’s merely uncalibrated, ignorant social skills. You might have heard of Game, pickup, flirting and tactics, but…. It’s pretty well known that you don’t tease or neg girls below a certain attractiveness level. Because it’s pretty predictable… Read more »

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Regent, As far as being banned that’s a combination of zero preselection, female insecurity of unverified AF/BB benefit, lack of ASD discretion by publicly sexualizing a woman too soon, WK beta orbiters willing to enforce FI decorum. See? You first were unknown quantity. Women fear not getting something for nothing. They are deeply mired in negotiation sex, AF or BB irrelavant. You point out a woman’s phony nature. That’s done by only accepted Alphas. And men who kow-tpw to women know zfg dudes are a threat to their sexual access. You are isolated and easily expelled. If you’d have a… Read more »

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@Regent: “. . . once they find out you’re married. Then they freak out.”

There are women who will proposition you because you are married. You are using the wrong gauge filter.

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@Palmasailor

@HABD

3pm here

This sent at 10am

https://imgur.com/a/RzkSE4x

Thanks..

probably the best you can do at this point in time… does he really know how to uber?…lol… even if he doesn’t show up, at least the seed is planted…

and if he doesn’t show, the next step is to ask him to help you with something… i’m sure there are projects around your new place, right?… bc you need his ‘help’… in ‘kid’ that translates as you need/want HIM… and even if he doesn’t agree, another seed is planted…

good luck!

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Regent ” I think my persona and perception is different because of my artistic nature.” Put that coffee down! Look man, there are no special snowflakes in evo-bio/psych… These are the principles which all this advice comes from. Inside is wiring which has evolved for reasons. So it’s on these ancient circuits that your cocka is pinging for hot young women and not for your fat wife… It’s on these ancient circuits that your wife got fat and is forcing you into the arms of other women, i.e. away from her… It’s not because she is sooooo attracted to you…… Read more »

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Regent,

Artistic nature without artistic focus = flaky social retard.

That works only in Portland.

Choose different and now. Get serious about your self-respect and others will respond likewise

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@scars The subreddit is r/masf. You’d next to send POB a DM for access. But I wouldn’t recommend it tbh. Most posts are by sarge. Who has been banned from joining the new forum for his continued trolling. The good posters, including Bacchus, are on my Facebook group (we’ll move to the new forum once it’s up) About the male model thing. It’s funny that when guys see him mention that, they immediately think the dude must look like the black version of Francisco lachowski 😂. Keep in mind. This guy is also a ‘male model’ Tbh I’d say I’m… Read more »

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Hold your artistic accomplishment and spirit against these guys. They’re all in all the time.

You? .

Listen to what they’re laying down…beware your own hype even..we’re saying the same.

https://youtu.be/Iu6gbFf7cLs

Up is down. Humiliate yourself into knowing the truth about your failing self. Then bust a move IRT being someone different.

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This is getting really complicated!
Seriously just teasing some chunky chick about her tats, and flirting a bit is no cause to get banned this is snowflake silliness. Not some complex anthropological discourse. It has nothing to do with pre-selected , alpha negs etc.. It’s just these girls are sitting around reading b.s. feminist blogs. That’s turning their minds to mush. Even you guys have to admit this. I will admit I like to push boundaries a bit and am not like the typical hipster shrubs these girls are used to but like come on! Ha, ha!

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@Regent Hi, I decided to post because, I’m a guy going through some shit and don’t know where to turn for advice. Someone said to try this msg. board. Ok, here’s my situation: I’m 44 but look much younger most people think I’m in my late 20’s. why does this matter to you?… serious question… I had horrible experiences with girls growing up. welcome to the club…lol… and to TRM… And ended up getting my first real gf in my early 20’s we have been tog. since then 8 yrs. bf/gf and 13yrs. married. right on schedule…lol… when she hit… Read more »

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@Palmasailor @HABD He’s been on my Uber account for two years since Milan car auction, he used it to book all the taxis for us. so, at least he can get there… he might show up… I’ve asked him to come and work with me and I’ve offered him work with another friend who owns a factory manufacturing the metalwork for very high end jewellery. All NO. were all of these work offers ‘work offers’… or personal favors to you?… you know, like you needed him to help you with something personal to you… He’s being a fucking shit. maybe…… Read more »

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@J OK, maybe I won’t bother joining the sub then if it’s no good – i’ll wait until the site is up With bachuss, I didn’t even know he was a model at first tbh! I just remember reading his FR’s on nextasf and seeing that in most sets, girls were running up to open him and hit on him lol (this happens with my handsome wing lots too) and also his verbals seemed cringey to me personally (although maybe it’s a US/ UK thing?) and then someone told me ‘Dudes a male model” lol. but yeah, i’m sure he… Read more »

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“This is getting really complicated!”

Yes and you’re getting less laid.

Notice how fast you dismiss other’s opinions and defend yourself? Less than 24 hours. Fell free to collapse your frame a little more and call it victory.

What you don’t know doesn’t hurt you. It’s what you know that just ain’t so that is your ruin.

Insert shoulder shrug.

This isn’t about other schlubs. It’s about the schlub you see in the mirror.

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Regent I will admit I like to push boundaries a bit Yeah I push boundaries all the time… Last night was talking to a woman I just met minutes before about her gyno visit and asking if the doc warmed up his hands first, rubbing my hands together like a happy merchant… And i got kicked out and banned from the bar because she went screaming to the manager giddy laughter and an OMG! I can’t believe you said that, you are outrageous and big eyes… Oh yeah I had my ring on and an answer when she asked where… Read more »

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” advanced game for y’all ”

😉

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And that’s why therapy fails you too.

You take zero ownership of your lot.

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I see what you mean , ha, ha, should have my shit together etc. And yeah she pushed for the marriage in early 30s

I don’t think I give off a beta vibe though I think people just don’t know what to make of me!

And yes I agree lots of shit tests but it’s over the top, ha, ha.

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” male model ” doesn’t mean what it used to mean, once the FI took over. I will walk past 20 of these types when I leave the house today. In fact my daughter is at breakfast with one this morning, but at least he’s been working out and weighs more than a buck 20. I don’t think these guys get laid because ” model “, as much as women like them because very much not ugly. Like the make equivalent of an hb7, which is easy to be when most guys all dress exactly the same, and do nothing… Read more »

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@Ehintellect

I’m know I’m responsible for myself dude. Just trying figure this all out.

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You’re kinda pissing me off, I mean maybe I’m drunk, uncalibrated etc. but this shouldn’t be that fucking complicated. And just teasing and flirting is no big deal, it’s just snowflakes. They don’t want men they don’t know to push boundaries because it makes them feel weak. And I wasn’t even interested in that particular chick was just an example. I may be weird and not a “chad” type guy but I’m no fucking shlub.

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@blaximus – ”I don’t think these guys get laid because ” model “, as much as women like them because very much not ugly” Yeah, that’s kind of what i’m saying. Personally, if I have attraction (the girl thinks i’m good looking) I tend to always close that night. I don’t know whether that’s because it’s super easy to close in them situations or my closing game is better than I give it credit for, but that’s the way it is. If a girl has ever opened me with something nice or maybe told me i’m hot, it’s basically in… Read more »

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Regent

To women, if you are not a guy who “just gets it” – or can reasonably mimic just getting it – you are a schlub. Full Stop.

Schlubs get schlub outcomes, as prima facie evidence of schlubbery.

In other words, if it walks talks and acts like a schlub – it’s a schlub.

Note this does not have anything at all to do with how guys see you.

Don’t get mad, get better.

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So how can we help you?

You posted your original comment and asked for help. But you didn’t actually define what it is that you want to accomplish. You beat around the bush.

You are straying into the weeds in referring to “it shouldn’t be so complicated” to just all get along with chicks in your milieu.

Perhaps you could be more forthright about your goals and plans for dealing with your inter-sexual relationships.

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I don’t understand this “male model” stuff (actually I lie, I do – it’s a buffer used to avoid looking at oneself and take action to improve oneself if someone else’s success can be blamed on their looks, and not their actions, one is absolved from having to take action oneself). But FWIW, “girls coming up and opening him” is no big deal. You still need to have Game to take that initial spark of attraction (which can be easily replicated by going up to a girl and opening her with confident subcomms) and turn it into a lay. And… Read more »

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Rogent I see what you mean , ha, ha, should have my shit together etc. That “ha, ha,” comes across as weakness. And yeah she pushed for the marriage in early 30s Any of several men here could have told you that. A demonstration of knowledge about women. You should ask yourself the question “what else do the men here know? What else is on Rollo’s site about women that I don’t know?”. One thing that may be an issue for you in real life: butthurt. If you are being all defensive and passive-aggressive and generally bitchy around people &… Read more »

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“You’re kinda pissing me off,”

About time you show a little spine, you wuss.

You’re welcome.

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Look you guys don’t know me, and since it’s hard to describe the situation, online and outside of this milieu. I guess there’s not much else to say. I know I can’t determine if anyone is beta, alpha, a schlub, or wuss. just by a few internet posts. And all of our life experiences are different. Some of you guys made good points, I’m just totally baffled by the weird experiences I’ve been having. Maybe this is the wrong place for feedback. But I do appreciate Rollo’s work.

-Take it easy for now.

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” . . . this shouldn’t be that fucking complicated.”

Driving a nail isn’t complicated, but you can still do it all wrong.

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@Ehintellect

Damn straight!

wink

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Crystal ball show me your secrets…..

I see a man…it’s misty. ..oh it’s j…he’s old….44, 45 maybe.

He’s with a fat woman….he’s complaining no one likes his art no more and his dead bedroom is on his mind..

Woman complains she has no purpose, finds j unattractive.

No kids to be seen….

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“Look you guys don’t know me . . . And all of our life experiences are different,” is the sort of thing artsy special snowflakes say.

“Maybe this is the wrong place for feedback.”

No, it’s the right place, but they have to get your attention first.

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Regent — It isn’t complicated at all actually. It’s simple: if women perceive you as not being able to socially read and calibrate properly in real time (as Sentient says, “just getting it”), you’re a schlub in their eyes. It’s that simple — not complicated. Negging an unattractive woman is a known fail, and will be read by that girl, by any other girl around her, and by guys around “who get it, as you “not getting it”, and therefore being a schlub. In order to change that, worry less about whatever websites girls are reading or whether their minds… Read more »

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“…And that’s why therapy fails you too. You take zero ownership of your lot…” It’s just I can’t stop looking at other women. Especially younger women. there is a lot of that going around…lol… and to quote SJF… ‘what are you going to do about that?’… (I digress, here: I was tooling around reading and figuring some stuff in regards to Red Pill and Religion. I’m not very religious, but I was drawn to Confessions by St.Augustine, which I’m currently reading. I looked into this based on some stuff that EhIntellect learned from his son in regards to red pill… Read more »

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Novaseeker, I wasn’t actually negging her it was an innuendo! It was pretty funny so I’m not sure why she got so offended.

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Who is J? You guys just want to razz me, and I’m not old dude, just trying to make sense of shit.Christ If you saw me you would think I’m a kid. I mean I can read Rollo and take some stuff into acct. But Jesus you guys tough, ha, ha!!!!!

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Ok, seriously enough for now,

Xoxo ha, ha.

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@Palma, good question.

Something to think about.

-Later

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And just like that, he was gone.

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Look you guys don’t know me, and since it’s hard to describe the situation, online and outside of this milieu.

We know about men, women and reality. Your situ is not that difficult to understand. Stop being a special snowflake and learn.

Step 0: No butthurt. Not in real life and not on line.

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@scars @gamenoob

https://imgur.com/a/FDskXu8

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“”When I sit down to make a potriat… I’m usually alone, in my own head. Time just flies by and you don’t even notice it. You’re like… completely focused, and it’s like every bone in your body is working towards creating something. It’s a struggle, but I love it.”” lol. Once she’s deeply immersed in the bubble you created…talking like this…in a slow relaxed deep voice…as you look at her with sexual eye contact….it’s pure chick crack….lol. “But FWIW, “girls coming up and opening him” is no big deal. You still need to have Game to take that initial spark… Read more »

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Yes, please do post some looksmaxxing (😁) stuff. I hear you talk often about ” looksmaxxing “, and I know your fave pua sites are into it, but I don’t know what exactly it is, and I need to know is it the ghey.

Sounds ghey af, but let’s see.

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@blax “I don’t know what exactly it is” oh? Man I knew you were old. but I didn’t know you suffered from dementia, dog. Here let me scroll up and repost the comment you wrote a couple hours ago to refresh your memory. Maybe write it down somewhere this time. so you’ll remember it better: “Like the make equivalent of an hb7, which is easy to be when most guys all dress exactly the same, and do nothing to appear ” better looking ” . It doesn’t take a whole lot to stand out from ” average ” dudes and… Read more »

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@culum ”But FWIW, “girls coming up and opening him” is no big deal. You still need to have Game to take that initial spark of attraction (which can be easily replicated by going up to a girl and opening her with confident subcomms) and turn it into a lay.” If that’s true, then maybe i’m not giving myself enough credit. If a girl opens me, or tells me i’m hot early one etc, then I have like a 95% record for banging the girl that night. I can close girls who are attracted to me. I can’t bang girls who… Read more »

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@scars “If a girl opens me, or tells me i’m hot early one etc, then I have like a 95% record for banging the girl that night.” Which doesn’t happen that often now does? lol. Especially with girls you actually want to fuck. Yeah game can’t help you if she thinks you’re ugly as sin+bad subcommunications, but game can help you when she’s on the fence about you. Fence about you (“umm he’s cute, but I don’t know”) /= thinks you’re ugly. Good way to find out, how she felt about you when you first approached her, is to literally… Read more »

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HB10s according to game god WestIndieArchie:

http://www.westindianarchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/my-10s.jpg

Waiting for them backwards rationalizations from them WIA fanboys. “dude like who cares what another man thinks is a 10”.

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J

“Waiting for them backwards rationalizations from them WIA fanboys. “dude like who cares what another man thinks is a 10”.”

How would that be a backward rationalization?

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J stop posting links to pics of 13 year old girls.

No pedo here please.

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Re: looksmaxxing…😂… Just typing it makes me laugh.

That’s why I legit want you to link some. I know what I said/meant, but young pua dudes have a whole other meaning to the simplest shit.

For the record, I’m not talking about wearing tight pants and shiny shirts, or getting ghey haircuts or shaping eyebrows… You know, ghey shit.

Nor am I taking about wearing 200 dollar t-shirts and 500 dollar jeans.

That’s try hard. They harder a guy tries, the more he speaks about how soft and mushy his internals are.

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@Sentient

So are those 10s or nah? Rhetorical 😆

@blax

“For the record, I’m not talking about wearing tight pants and shiny shirts, or getting ghey haircuts or shaping eyebrows… You know, ghey shit.

Nor am I taking about wearing 200 dollar t-shirts and 500 dollar jeans.”

….should be obvious I’m not talking about any of that dumb shit. Apparently not.

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Show and tell.

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Let’s say no. K

““Waiting for them backwards rationalizations from them WIA fanboys. “dude like who cares what another man thinks is a 10”.””

How is this a backwards rationalization?

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Drop by any time, Regent. Reality will still be available.

“If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen” — Harry Truman

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Hot off the back of that lay 2 weeks back there was only one target at the weeding in Prague (weekend just gone) who was just beautiful but I wasn’t able to get any attraction from her unfortunately so that was a wash-out. Tried my best with the teases and the DHV’s and what not, but she was never into it. At the time I regretted not being braver and not just escalating despite the lack of IOI’s from her but in hindsight (and after speaking to mutual friends) i’m pretty sure It wouldn’t have worked out anyway (I just… Read more »

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“Who is J?”

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