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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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So essentially after I break it off clean I ghost? And they will come back for the car and when they fo I just give it to them on my terms?

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@youngshagger “So essentially after I break it off clean I ghost? And they will come back for the car and when they fo I just give it to them on my terms?” That’s Option 2 — If you want to try and hold on to the car for a little while… Option 1 — You return the car as part of the whole package of breaking off with your LTR GF. The advantage to you here (balanced against the short-term inconvenience of not having a car) is that you are in control and retain / regain frame, thereby dictating terms.… Read more »

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youngshagger Nothing flamboyant, quick like a band-aid. Return the car, if she’s not there, just leave it, keys in it. Tell her it’s over, whenever it does come up but don’t pursue it and use the classic “It’s me babe, not you.” (and not laughing). Feel free to fuck her friends before you leave for college as they’ll all be on the hunt for the pre-college-departure bang AND they know you pulled a DHV move dumping her. You know, youngshagger….she may be planning a quickie break-up already…you’d never know…the race is on! High-stakes relationship chicken! Who’ll act first?? Who’s the… Read more »

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Shagger,

Do not do this…..

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Consider all this deprogramming, my man.

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@ Sentient @ IRL https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-128/#comment-279615 Thank you both. “IRL is opening your eyes Tantum to “the game”…” Understood — and I have a lot of eye opening to do. “All right… So one of the tenets of The Game is “chess, not checkers”… Which is what Mystery broke down. so your “checkers” move is to bull up to her in secret and try and grab that IOI… Dog logic… 9/10 a cat is going to respond negative to this, because you are now chasing… She throws some bait out there. guys gobble it up. The “chess” move it to anticipate… Read more »

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@Sentient << On this “(white Beta BF with ‘on-trend’ beard and slim Indian / Asian GF). ” Tread carefully in analyzing other guys. It rarely leads to good outcomes. For example this guy might appear “beta” or “Soy” or whatever but he is likely fucking her. >> Good point, and I will need to work on this. This isn’t so much about analysis for me, as an instinctive / intuitive ‘sizing-up’. I lived in a tough part of North-East Scotland for almost 10 years — and, at that time — your survival depended on your ability to figure out whether… Read more »

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Learn this term: “Strings attached”

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/strings-attached

In your case it’s not so much a string they’ve attached, it’s more like a rope. Or a chain.
Pay attention to what Palmasailor is telling you.

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Tantum “This isn’t so much about analysis for me, as an instinctive / intuitive ‘sizing-up’. ” And as a guy sizing up a guy you are likely right. But as a girl sizing up a guy it’s very different. So once you start acting towards the guy like you think he is, you are already off base from what she thinks. A few degrees off base at the start is enough. And now you’ve put yourself and him in competing terms in your mind. When thw focus needs to be on her and how she is reacting. Sure you can… Read more »

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@Sentient https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-129/#comment-279681 “And now you’ve put yourself and him in competing terms in your mind. When thw focus needs to be on her and how she is reacting. Sure you can AMOG guys but again that’s all in relation to her and she is reacting to it.” And this is what I missed… BF said to another couple in the bar that he lives locally, so there is the slimmest of chances that I might bump into them again. BTW: In addition to MM, I have now bookmarked YaReally Archive http://yareallyarchive.com/ and also downloaded Book of YaReally — with additional… Read more »

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palmasailor check the email I sent you please.

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@youngshagger.

Ok.

Well, I’ve probably done the wrong thing in a lot of ways because a man never gets given anything on his entire life apart from his parents, if all has to be earned and I’ve broken that rule with you.

But there we are.

You now need to dump her.

Buy a scrapper and suck up that shit set of wheels and earn some money somehow as well as going to college to support yourself.

Let us know how it goes,

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@Everyone: some really good stuff in the FR section. Thanks Rollo for the knowledge of the postings and for hosting the community. @Sentient: “Dogfish” LOL I think we are going to remember that one for a while. @J: don’t you recognize you are being AMOGged? You don’t need to justify yourself @youngshagger: you weren’t happy with how things are going and you are getting excellent advice here. Well done for following through with it, most young guys wouldn’t. Your future looks really bright – but you will ALWAYS have to work for it. Burden of performance… Tell me: have you… Read more »

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@youngshagger I’ll riddle you the story of my first ex wife. She was my first proper girlfriend at 16 and about my 3rd/4th N. We met at college. I was still technically at home but because of my drug addicted mother I didn’t spend any time there so the minute I got a motorbike I was always at the gf’s house or out. The sex was always shit. And we split up for her to go to university. That wasn’t an option for me. She had a car licence but she used her mother’s car because they “didn’t want the… Read more »

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Youngshagger To get a perspective on the difference, my first wife would go and immediately bath after very rare sex and never blew me off. Whereas with the beautiful girlfriend I had immediately after her, we banged at least two, and up to six or seven times every day for a year. She wasn’t on birth control because she was catholic so she said but I’m not kidding, she swallowed absolutely every single load for a year. She timed it and sucked extra hard at the right moment and swallowed all of it. I don’t know how much volume that… Read more »

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@IAS

“@J: don’t you recognize you are being AMOGged?”

lol obviously. I’ve always been a cocky son of bitch, so I’m used to guys tryin amog me for it. But it just motivates me to keep on pushing rather than let it bring me down. So I appreciate it 🤗.

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Tantum

So, much homework.

This is another good read. But wait until you’ve gone through MM thoroughly. “Tyler Durden” was the nom de guerre of Owen Cook, who was an early MM disciple and went on to co found RSD.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/276760/Tyler-Durden-The-Tyler-Digest

Little spergy at times but some very good illustrations of concepts played out in the field.

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There she is. The girl I want. She is surrounded by guys. The tall one has her fullattention. He is very big. He is wickedly funny and his whole group hangs on hisevery word. Perhaps he is an athlete. Perhaps he is Mafioso. Perhaps he is asuccessful businessman. Or a movie producer. Whatever it is that he is, he is fuckingnasty. But it doesn’t matter. I look straight at the girl, and the group feels theenergy in the room change. The girl looks at me and drops the guys’ hand.Immediately everyone in the group tenses up. Some shit is about… Read more »

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O/T

Inverted yield curve. 10 year below the 2 year, wtf?

Technically, recession imminent, historically. Those with heavy investment in markets, keep your eyes open today/this week and hold on to your balls.

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@Culum Oh and HABD – you really think even a brand name Ivy League college is a bad deal now (outside STEM subjects)? Why? Just because of the financial burden for most families? Or other reasons? Still a route into (or to remain in) the UMC isn’t it, entirely separate from the knowledge gained? +1 on Novaseeker’s excellent analysis… i would go so far as to say that he didn’t go far enough in stating the in-group that might benefit from attending those Ivy league schools… My POV: higher-tier Ivy (Harvard, Yale, Princeton), or equivalent (MIT, Stanford, Chicago) may be… Read more »

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Note that while it still exists the benefit to the UMC is being actively destroyed by the progressive contingent and that MIT, U of Michigan and RPI rank higher in the STEM field than most of the Ivy League schools. Cornell is still hanging on.

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the benefit to the UMC is being actively destroyed by the progressive contingent

Indeed. Really accelerated from eight years ago…

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“O/T

Inverted yield curve. 10 year below the 2 year, wtf?

Technically, recession imminent, historically. Those with heavy investment in markets, keep your eyes open today/this week and hold on to your balls.”

Spooked markets for lots of reasons..

Black Friday mañana?

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Financial markets have been unlinked from reality for a long time. I don’t think they can ever stop it. Particularly now that all of the West is embarking on Project Free everything. It will all tank eventually but probably not for far longer than any of us can imagine.

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In other words we are now fully immersed in a post-rational world. Every facet.

Sorry to harsh any Good Vibrations going on out there.

😁

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kfg Note that while it still exists the benefit to the UMC is being actively destroyed by the progressive contingent What’s that Chinese word again? Baizu? Baidu? Oh, wait…Baizuo… and that MIT, U of Michigan and RPI rank higher in the STEM field than most of the Ivy League schools. Out here in flyover, all the good students in high school are told how they can succeed at an Ivy. The people telling them that all graduated from a Tier 4 State U, and don’t get the fact that Joe / Jane Honor Society from Flyover High is going to… Read more »

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In other words we are now fully immersed in a post-rational world

Been that way for a while now. Enjoy the honks!
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How do you delete prior comments?

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@Novaseeker and @HABD – thank you. It’s changed quite a bit since I was in college 20 years ago then. I was in a mid/lower tier Ivy doing non-STEM adnd I knew several “generic white guys from Ohio” who made it into the UMC. I assume it is linked to the whole “pie is shrinking” thing HABD and I were talking about a few months ago. About how it is harder to find common ground and different political groups (aka “stakeholders”) are more polarized etc – because as the the pie shrinks, everyone fights harder to keep their piece and… Read more »

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@youngshagger

You can’t – unless you ask Rollo and he does it for you

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Hmm because my first post where I used my name I feel like I said stuff that could reveal my identity and I do not want to get doxed.

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Sentient and Palma ” Financial markets have been unlinked from reality for a long time. I don’t think they can ever stop it. Particularly now that all of the West is embarking on Project Free everything. It will all tank eventually but probably not for far longer than any of us can imagine.” 100% true. If inverted yields historically point to pending recession, then a ” recession ” should be forthcoming. But as you rightly say, ” eventually ” because reality doesn’t exist. That’s why miraculously we’ve had practically no inflation, no matter how many trillions of dollars…er… ” dollars… Read more »

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Culum

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@palmasailor your story speaks to me. I am ending it tomorrow by going to do it in person at her apartment. I am going to drop off the car and tell her it is over.

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@ youngshagger

“@palmasailor your story speaks to me.”

Yes I Know.

Good luck.

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@youngshagger

“I am going to drop off the car and tell her it is over.”

Don’t get drawn into detail about anything. You’re just moving on with your life and you want freedom.

You don’t “owe her an explanation” or anything at all.

Keep it short and just say you’ve made your mind up and don’t want to discuss it.

If you give them a cotton thread of anything they will pull and pull at it and tie you up in knots.

You should be in there for under 5 minutes.

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I assume it is linked to the whole “pie is shrinking” thing

Could be. Also could be overproduction of elites: the pie is growing but the number of pie-eaters is growing faster. The effects are pretty much the same, though. Partly because a “college degree” from 1999 is not quite the same thing as a “college degree” from 2019, and neither one is the same thing that Granpa Boomer got back in 1969..

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@Culum @Novaseeker and @HABD – thank you. It’s changed quite a bit since I was in college 20 years ago then. I was in a mid/lower tier Ivy doing non-STEM adnd I knew several “generic white guys from Ohio” who made it into the UMC. I assume it is linked to the whole “pie is shrinking” thing HABD and I were talking about a few months ago. About how it is harder to find common ground and different political groups (aka “stakeholders”) are more polarized etc – because as the the pie shrinks, everyone fights harder to keep their piece… Read more »

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Culum

Maybe the pie is shrinking, but economically, the ” pie ” is mostly being eaten by a handful of folks and everyone else is fighting over the leftovers.

But even the ” pie ” isn’t what pie has been traditionally described as.

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Youngshagger,

Doxxed?

Fagetabbboutit.

No one here cares to dig too deeply unless you’re a jerk. Your not so chill.

I gave my life story and have zero to lose as I don’t worry about online threats.

What’s the worst that could happen?

ZFG rookie of the year?

No one’s gonna fuck with you enough to matter.

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youngshagger,

In wrestling, you own your mistakes and hold your head high with a clear conscience you did your best.

Fuck the peanut gallery. Fuck those guys who look to year you down. No fear.

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I have a question regarding night game. Recently, I´ve been going out alone doing cold approaches at various nightclubs and I always seem to be getting this question from women “Where are your friends?”. I usually just make up an excuse and tell them that my friends had to go home or that they don´t want to go out since they are nerdy and prefer playing video games instead. They tend to find this a bit odd. So, I want to know how do I deal with this question, should I just tell them the truth, that I go out… Read more »

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@Ehintellect Fuck it I have said nothing wrong, you are right.😎

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“Where are your friends?”.

I love it, really isn’t my day to watch them but if I had to guess they are probably still out trying to break my high base jump record.

If they were up her ass she would know where they are.

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BigPapiMario “Where are your friends?”. Oh, man. A basic shit test to see why you don’t have a wingman or a girl. Let your mind roam free… “Friends? Everyone is my friend. Well, maybe not you…[smirk]”. “Most people can’t keep up with me…” “They all went to the beanbag championships. That’s too dangerous for me. Still faced Steven Wright delivery: “I keep them in a box at home….Under the bed….To scare the monsters away.” Depends on what you are most confident with. Just don’t be all Bob Beta earnest, explaining in detail where each of your friends is that night… Read more »

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I game almost exclusively solo in random cities. “Where are your friends” is just a shit test. The answer does not matter but how you answer it does.

So no need to try and ” solve for girl”. This is what agree and amplify and cocky funny are for. Pass that shit test, smirk and hold your frame. Then flip the script.

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Papi Where are all your friends? I can’t remember ever getting that one, so my guess is that you’re giving off the vibe that you don’t have any friends and they’re picking up on that. If it wasn’t that, you’d just get another shot test so don’t worry about it. I often sit alone at a bar positioned with a pair of spare seats next to me on both sides occupying territory that allows “pairs” to sit on either side. Doubles your chances as opposed to sitting at the end. They ask “is the chair free?” Me “yes of course,… Read more »

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@papi “I usually just make up an excuse and tell them that my friends had to go home or that they don´t want to go out since they are nerdy and prefer playing video games instead. They tend to find this a bit odd.” Ok – this is a turbo shit test fail. You’re basically telling them that your friends are saddos with no social skills. And turkeys fly with turkeys so you’re a saddo with no social skills in their heads by association. Move on from that, 90% of this is having the balls to approach in the first… Read more »

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Papi I’ve been acting like this since I was on a school trip at 16, we’d gone somewhere and there was a girl I thought I recognised that had a glass eye. So I said to her “hey are you the one with the glass eye?” She wasn’t. But she was mortified everyone erupted, and that was that. At the time I got her landline home number – which her father answered (on a piece of paper). I’ve been like it ever since – if I can be bothered – There are no limits to the absurdity if you can… Read more »

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“Three basic options Ignore and continue Agree and amplify Reduce to absurdity NEVER try to directly answer their questions.” Gold. Thanks for posting that. I need to ingrain simple things like this into my Frame. It’s such an overlooked yet common mistake: someone asking you a question, and getting sucked into their Frame by believing you have to answer it. This is a very deep “weed” for me that I need to uproot. Even just sitting here alone late at night, getting ready for bed, I can banter back and forth with myself in this manner. “Where are you from?… Read more »

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@softek

“The cashiers ask How are you?”

My standard answer “Always good”

Her “Always?” Laughing

Me: “of course, what of the options – the only other choice is to be bad.. and where’s the fun in that”

Her “laugh”

Me.. “hmmm actually you could be bad, my mother warned me like girls like you – have a good day”

Take coffee / groceries and walk off / or take it further if you feel like it.

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@Softek

“My mind is going blank right now”

You’re under too much pressure. It’s performance anxiety / outcome dependence. AKA you’re trying too hard.

Spend a few weeks picking out the oldest most butt ugly fat servers and practice on them.

That’s granny at the checkout with a mustache – yup hitbher up with the always good script and run it.

Do it everywhere, especially with those you have zero interest in.

Keep doing it everywhere until your brain is ready wired so as that is who you now are. It’s the default setting now.

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@HABD – thank you. @BigPapiMario – the others have covered the main points, but I’ll add a couple of things based on my experience as a guy who has been out alone a lot: I rarely get asked this. Sometimes yes, but it’s rare. I strongly suspect you are getting asked this a lot because something in your vibe is giving the girl the impression that you are uncomfortable with being out alone, so she shit tests you on it. If you chill out about being alone I suspect the question will stop. This question is NOT always a shit… Read more »

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@Culum

I’m amazed you’d use a-d there.

Even if you take on board that the question is not always the test why even take the risk by going even close to “answering” it?

In all those examples you’re STILL in the position where you now have to take her on a fun journey.

My way takes her straight off piste into an adventure….

But you do have to be able to think on your feet and get her “on cam”.

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So you’ve deflected her bullet but you could have turned her gun round and shot her with the bullet she was trying to use on you..

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Softek “My mind is going blank right now even just asking myself a question and responding to it…like I have to actually stop and think of something to say, that isn’t a generic, boring response. Something absurd that doesn’t directly answer the question.” If only some bright PUA could invent a way to deal with these kinds of situations that repeat over and over and over in all social interactions… “Who are you here with?” “What’s your name?” “Where are you from?” “What is your name?” “What do you do?” “Where do you live?” “How are you/How’s it going?” Etc.… Read more »

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Palma Culum “Even if you take on board that the question is not always the test why even take the risk by going even close to “answering” it?” I get what Culum is saying. A lot depends on how it comes up and how it is delivered. If it’s what I suspect Papi is getting… Papi runs up to a four set, all backs to him. “Hey guys How is your night!” Tail wagging earnestly. Girl turns her head a bit over her shoulder, look him up amd down dismissively, “where are your friends?” And back turns… Vs. You sauntering… Read more »

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Surprised none of y’all mentioned the other reason she asking about your friends: she wants to hookup with you, and set her friend up with yours. Because she assumes he must be cool too.

Guessing y’all must not run into that situation that often…☺️

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“My friend just pulled a girl and took her home”

“I just had dinner with friends and wanted to get a drink before going home”

Yeah these are solid.

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@Palma /@Sentient Yes, what Sentient said. Doesn’t even have to be as obvious as Sentient’s scenario 1 – you could even be having a chat with the girl next to you at the bar and she asks you where your friends are in an obviously challenging tone of voice – aka a shit test. And you go into your shit test response. But more generally, I think the point I was trying to make is that you don’t have to be “gaming” all the time. Sure, you need to know where you are in the interaction and have a plan… Read more »

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@Sentient Bear in mind I’m sitting here de constructing in real time what I’m doing and reversing that into what I remember from MM. In terms of the ridiculous conversations I’ve had, I’ve never de constructed those so this is a first attempt at that. “Papi runs up to a four set, all backs to him. “Hey guys How is your night!” Tail wagging earnestly.” Props for bottle, positivity and ambition but 😬 ouch… It’s a better idea to do the “oops” bump, spill a drink on her or tread on her toe if I’m honest. You’ve gotta lock the… Read more »

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@AR Culum kfg Blaximus Culum “I assume it is linked to the whole “pie is shrinking” thing” Could be. Also could be overproduction of elites: the pie is growing but the number of pie-eaters is growing faster. The effects are pretty much the same, though. Partly because a “college degree” from 1999 is not quite the same thing as a “college degree” from 2019, and neither one is the same thing that Granpa Boomer got back in 1969.. this is a good point… and for some reason it kind of bugged me…lol… and not bc it was a good point…lol… Read more »

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of course you can’t wear a red dress when our electrodes are inserted

lolz

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no matter how far out there the ‘progressive’ is… even as it is actively destroying the UMC group

All leading to your basic “Marxist” revolutionary stage 4 UMC purge… Followed by economic desolation.

This is why I can’t wait for RT’s next book on “Religion”. We have entered the religious furor phase which will reward further “purity tests”.

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@Sentient

If I was in the right frame of mind I could probably come up with 3-4 full routines a day if I tried.

Perhaps I should take it seriously – ish and write a book..

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a). They just went home but I was having fun and decided to stay [if later in the night] b) I got here early, they’re on the way [if earlier in the night] c) My friend just pulled a girl and took her home [this was our resident PUA genius YaReally’s preferred option as it sexualizes the conversation while answering the question] d) I’m out alone – I didn’t feel like sitting at home tonight [this is optimal because it is most authentic but you need to be congruent to it – it won’t work if she can see that… Read more »

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Keep doing it everywhere until your brain is ready wired so as that is who you now are. It’s the default setting now.

Neuroplasticity at work. Practice doesn’t make perfect, practice makes permanent. Eventually that cocky/funny becomes a part of a man’s personality, and that’s just fine.

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Geeze, even my mind began to wander reading that. Painful. What comes after, do you read the weather forecast off of your phone out loud?
Look, there’s many times in life when being earnest is important, but flirting with girls at night is not one of them.

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But more generally, I think the point I was trying to make is that you don’t have to be “gaming” all the time

Huh. My first question is “why”, but that leads to other questions later on .

In a flirting situation, why stop your Game at all?

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Perhaps I should take it seriously – ish and write a book..

Mystery just put a 36 pager out… https://www.instagram.com/p/BzYwOR4IPtq/

Have at it… doing infield video would be fun too. You are already starting to…

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@ Sentient

“Tantum

So, much homework.

This is another good read. But wait until you’ve gone through MM thoroughly. “Tyler Durden” was the nom de guerre of Owen Cook, who was an early MM disciple and went on to co found RSD.

Little spergy at times but some very good illustrations of concepts played out in the field.”

Many thanks, Sentient.

So my reading list is:

MM (which I have started) – plus supporting videos
YaReally
Tyler Durden

Tantum

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“C makes you all “players” and now you’ll get more shit tests and ASD.” Nah. And who said shit tests are a bad thing? Speaking as an expert liar, here’s how I’d phrase Yareally’s line to not trigger ASD: Hoe: Where are your friends? j: I don’t know. Last time I saw him he was talking to this girl upstairs. Let’s try to go find them. (excuse to isolate her). Now your upstairs Huh they were just here like 10 minutes ago lol. Let me text him to see where he’s at. 5 mins later j: ohhh I know where… Read more »

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J — “C makes you all “players” and now you’ll get more shit tests and ASD.”

Nah. And who said shit tests are a bad thing? Speaking as an expert liar, here’s how I’d phrase Yareally’s line to not trigger ASD:

Fair enough. But you note that you have an entire story ready to go as well. You didn’t/don’t tell a lie without having thought the thing through and knowing you have to corroborate it.

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@HABD
While I don’t disagree with your observations, I think that this also has something to do with the overall feminization of America. If the UMC is a club with benefits, then people want in. In our current feminized crab-bucket world, you don’t climb your way into that club, you drag the club down to your level. See also: Army Rangers, Firemen, Green Berets, etc.

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“Have at it…”

Danger is that I’d enjoy it and sit on the beach and do it and lose track of the current thing i need to get done.

That and the local divorce courts would fill up with all the infield
I’ve got…

But perhaps I’ll do the routines anyway, life’s too short.

What should the price point be for 30 routines? I a night for a month that all young men could but it?

£4.99 or £9.99?

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“J — “C makes you all “players” and now you’ll get more shit tests and ASD.” Nah. And who said shit tests are a bad thing? Speaking as an expert liar, here’s how I’d phrase Yareally’s line to not trigger ASD: Fair enough. But you note that you have an entire story ready to go as well. You didn’t/don’t tell a lie without having thought the thing through and knowing you have to corroborate it.” ** no one is a good enough liar to live like it. Why lie, why not make it real. And why even go there? Stepping… Read more »

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So taking this one step further for you young men, and as I say I’m commenting in real time, but what if, like me, you wake up at 33 and decide you want kids but don’t have a girlfriend.

You go out with your “game” and pull one but it’s based on lies.

What then?

How do you think that will pan out?

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@HABD
While I don’t disagree with your observations, I think that this also has something to do with the overall feminization of America.

this is called the Feminine Imperative (FI) around here…lol

and it does s*ck… and not in a good way…lol

If the UMC is a club with benefits, then people want in. In our current feminized crab-bucket world, you don’t climb your way into that club, you drag the club down to your level. See also: Army Rangers, Firemen, Green Berets, etc.

true… which eventually ends in that Marxist purge @ Sentient mentioned…

good luck!

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“£4.99 or £9.99?”

For a cache of tried and true lines from London’s #1 Dutch Uncle?

Gaaad. More like £100.

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That’s less than a pint costs daily over the month…

Would you buy a guy a pint for a great gambit?

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@Sentient

If I did it, and it’s an If right now, it won’t be about the money per se..

That doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t be delighted to sell a few million globally at £2 each royalty. I would.

But I’m not “entrepreneurs in cars” and actually, neither is he.

Hell I’ve just bought a car for a guy across the pond I’ve never met. (He’s gonna have to get laid in that an post the report by the way)

It’s about the fun, and the fight back against the FI for men.

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“Where are all your friends?”

Me: At home banging their gf’s. I had a nooner.

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@Kxnx

Tell her you don’t do women friends, you have loads of men friends that have been around for years and you don’t even have time or see them, but wish her good luck and tell her she’s a great girl.

Move on to one that does want to bang you..

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Well men, I ended that 3 year highschool LTR in person. I told her we are over and did not go into detail or be too emotional or flowery. want to pursue my personal goals now and better myself. That includes but is not limited to becoming a national champion wrestler in college, becoming an orthopedic surgeon, and developing myself by learning how to apply RP to make my future relations with women on my terms. Thank you all for who supported me in making this change to better my life. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

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@younshagger

“Well men, I ended that 3 year highschool LTR in person. I told her we are over and did not go into detail or be too emotional or flowery. want to pursue my personal goals now and better myself”

Many congratulations! You have taken your first step into a wider, more abundant world. 😊

TantumErgo

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How is it that I keep meeting these hot but crazy women? A plate I banged 3 times last year has moved to my city for school. The last time banged her was December when she came to my city for an interview, texted me and invited me to bang her at her hotel. When we meet up it’s mental. Then I don’t hear from her from months and I don’t chase. But I did reach out at New Year’s and she blew me off. THen she came to my city for some reason and didn’t contact me. I saw… Read more »

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@ Kxnx ” Hi guys, I am relatively new to all these, I only heard about Rational Male from my colleague at work cause I was talking about my girl problems. I haven’t gotten real far in the book but I was wondering if there was a way to get out of an IJBF friendship. She says she’s not looking to date right now, but says she’s in a situationship with with some guy. I tell myself oh the guy doesn’t like her back to feel better about myself. Says she won’t lead me on and she would be fine… Read more »

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Wala You know i love you bro. Your whole arc… So… “Discuss” K. This here “Girls are out to cultivate orbiters who serve a purpose: a bang, a ride, attention of any kind. You want to be the guy she bangs or the guy who gives her a ride to shit?” What’s the difference between orbiting to bang or not? A bang. Still all on her terms. Too much of this mindset will result in moar bang’s short term but less lomg term. They wont ever get to chasing. If you think that their chasing isn’t possible, then there is… Read more »

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@Walawala “he says “She lives near me and I have a car so i’ll give her a lift home […] But somehow this bothered me.” Why? The fuck was she suppose to say to the chode? She can’t tell him, she was planning on going back with you after the show, because she wants to keep this shit on the down low. and she can’t be all, “nah chode, I’d much rather pay a really expensive cab fare, than get a free ride back home from you” cause its past midnight. She already banged you a billion times (maybe its… Read more »

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@sentient. exactly that’s the point. Every interaction with women is a choice and a balance. But ideally it has to be on your terms. I’d rather be the guy who bangs her than the guy who chauffeurs her around and bangs her. But the other part of my discussion is to recognise when you’re being played. This isn’t the firSt time a girl I was banging shows up where I’m at with an orbiter. The last time was 3 years ago and I mismanaged it creating more drama for myself. This time I stopped, dropped and rolled away. It’s what… Read more »

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Hey guys. I have a legitimate question that may pose for debate. After ending this relationship and looking back, it is really making me question the meaning of “love”. Mostly, the whole “love” feeling in relationships is flowery and inherently designed to reinforce the feminine imperative in the minds of men. That being said, does love exist? If you look at it rationally, “love” in postmodern, western society serves hypergamy. I said “I love you (insert cringy pet name here)”so many times in my last LTR and now that it is over it is making me question did I ever… Read more »

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@youngshagger

I told my first wife I loved her all the time.

With the second wife, I’m not sure I ever said it to her, and it was quite a good marriage until the financial crisis caused me such heavy losses that I lost my anchorage and started to fail shit tests in guard dog spin up exactly as HABD laid out above.

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@palmasailor obviously to each their own, but is it best to never say “I love you” in a relationship/marriage to keep fostering desire? What do you think about the meaning of the word as applied to sexually intimate relationships (especially LTR and marriage).

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@walawala The woman that sent me here had an orbiter that had been there since school which had been at least 20 years. He was nearly 40 she was 38 when it started. I was blue pill so it dicked with my head quite a lot because I didn’t know what the fuck was going on, but when she came over to me and we had all night sessions including on one occasion hiring a hooker for a threesome and on another going to a swinging club where I banged her in a cage with women putting their hands through… Read more »

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Hee hee.

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@J I think you nailed it. The point is when emotion and ego get in the way I still miss the obvious.

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@J, Sentient, Serious question…I didn’t react but why did it bother me? It has all the classic AFBB, I was exhausted. So why did it bother me? This is the ideal set up and it’s the set up I have with all my plates? We text when we want to meet up or bang. But in this scenario when she showed up the other night with chode…who is a friend….why didn’t I just go up and say “Hey! What up? Oy…” Instead I kept a low profile and left feeling awkward. It was uncharacteristic of me. No one knew but… Read more »

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Shagger There’s a lot more to keeping desire alive in a marriage than use of the word love. And I’m not the expert here. I think HABD has it licked by pushing back on stage 3 of his guard dog spin up and I’ll re post him here then I’ll explain why I think he has it licked: “** 1) you act —> 2) she pushes on your frame —> 3) you push back ‘some’ —> 4) she pushes back harder and ‘wins’ (bc you give in…) —> 5) life returns to her being in control until next time… when… Read more »

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@ youngshagger I haven’t been in love for a woman for years. I like sex and there are still times a woman’s body takes my breath away, but the whole Being With a Woman ‘thing’ feels totally pointless. It’s like considering going back to a job you used to do. I used to see an attractive woman and think, ‘Wow! You’re beautiful! You’re wonderful! I wish I could get you alone!’ but that doesn’t happen anymore. I see an attractive woman and think, ‘You’re cute. I’d enjoy having sex with you. But I also know how much work I’d have… Read more »

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In love with a woman.

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@cartoonist

He’s 17 and wants a woman and a family so is pre emptively trying to get it right.

You’re somewhere in here, probably stage 2 or 6:

https://therationalmale.com/2012/07/25/the-5-stages-of-unplugging/

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