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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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@Ehintellect

Damn straight!

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Crystal ball show me your secrets…..

I see a man…it’s misty. ..oh it’s j…he’s old….44, 45 maybe.

He’s with a fat woman….he’s complaining no one likes his art no more and his dead bedroom is on his mind..

Woman complains she has no purpose, finds j unattractive.

No kids to be seen….

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“Look you guys don’t know me . . . And all of our life experiences are different,” is the sort of thing artsy special snowflakes say.

“Maybe this is the wrong place for feedback.”

No, it’s the right place, but they have to get your attention first.

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Regent — It isn’t complicated at all actually. It’s simple: if women perceive you as not being able to socially read and calibrate properly in real time (as Sentient says, “just getting it”), you’re a schlub in their eyes. It’s that simple — not complicated. Negging an unattractive woman is a known fail, and will be read by that girl, by any other girl around her, and by guys around “who get it, as you “not getting it”, and therefore being a schlub. In order to change that, worry less about whatever websites girls are reading or whether their minds… Read more »

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“…And that’s why therapy fails you too. You take zero ownership of your lot…” It’s just I can’t stop looking at other women. Especially younger women. there is a lot of that going around…lol… and to quote SJF… ‘what are you going to do about that?’… (I digress, here: I was tooling around reading and figuring some stuff in regards to Red Pill and Religion. I’m not very religious, but I was drawn to Confessions by St.Augustine, which I’m currently reading. I looked into this based on some stuff that EhIntellect learned from his son in regards to red pill… Read more »

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Novaseeker, I wasn’t actually negging her it was an innuendo! It was pretty funny so I’m not sure why she got so offended.

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Who is J? You guys just want to razz me, and I’m not old dude, just trying to make sense of shit.Christ If you saw me you would think I’m a kid. I mean I can read Rollo and take some stuff into acct. But Jesus you guys tough, ha, ha!!!!!

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Ok, seriously enough for now,

Xoxo ha, ha.

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@Palma, good question.

Something to think about.

-Later

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And just like that, he was gone.

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Regent
Look you guys don’t know me, and since it’s hard to describe the situation, online and outside of this milieu.

We know about men, women and reality. Your situ is not that difficult to understand. Stop being a special snowflake and learn.

Step 0: No butthurt. Not in real life and not on line.

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@scars @gamenoob

https://imgur.com/a/FDskXu8

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“”When I sit down to make a potriat… I’m usually alone, in my own head. Time just flies by and you don’t even notice it. You’re like… completely focused, and it’s like every bone in your body is working towards creating something. It’s a struggle, but I love it.”” lol. Once she’s deeply immersed in the bubble you created…talking like this…in a slow relaxed deep voice…as you look at her with sexual eye contact….it’s pure chick crack….lol. “But FWIW, “girls coming up and opening him” is no big deal. You still need to have Game to take that initial spark… Read more »

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Yes, please do post some looksmaxxing (😁) stuff. I hear you talk often about ” looksmaxxing “, and I know your fave pua sites are into it, but I don’t know what exactly it is, and I need to know is it the ghey.

Sounds ghey af, but let’s see.

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@blax “I don’t know what exactly it is” oh? Man I knew you were old. but I didn’t know you suffered from dementia, dog. Here let me scroll up and repost the comment you wrote a couple hours ago to refresh your memory. Maybe write it down somewhere this time. so you’ll remember it better: “Like the make equivalent of an hb7, which is easy to be when most guys all dress exactly the same, and do nothing to appear ” better looking ” . It doesn’t take a whole lot to stand out from ” average ” dudes and… Read more »

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@culum ”But FWIW, “girls coming up and opening him” is no big deal. You still need to have Game to take that initial spark of attraction (which can be easily replicated by going up to a girl and opening her with confident subcomms) and turn it into a lay.” If that’s true, then maybe i’m not giving myself enough credit. If a girl opens me, or tells me i’m hot early one etc, then I have like a 95% record for banging the girl that night. I can close girls who are attracted to me. I can’t bang girls who… Read more »

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@scars “If a girl opens me, or tells me i’m hot early one etc, then I have like a 95% record for banging the girl that night.” Which doesn’t happen that often now does? lol. Especially with girls you actually want to fuck. Yeah game can’t help you if she thinks you’re ugly as sin+bad subcommunications, but game can help you when she’s on the fence about you. Fence about you (“umm he’s cute, but I don’t know”) /= thinks you’re ugly. Good way to find out, how she felt about you when you first approached her, is to literally… Read more »

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HB10s according to game god WestIndieArchie:

http://www.westindianarchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/my-10s.jpg

Waiting for them backwards rationalizations from them WIA fanboys. “dude like who cares what another man thinks is a 10”.

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“Waiting for them backwards rationalizations from them WIA fanboys. “dude like who cares what another man thinks is a 10”.”

How would that be a backward rationalization?

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J stop posting links to pics of 13 year old girls.

No pedo here please.

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Re: looksmaxxing…😂… Just typing it makes me laugh.

That’s why I legit want you to link some. I know what I said/meant, but young pua dudes have a whole other meaning to the simplest shit.

For the record, I’m not talking about wearing tight pants and shiny shirts, or getting ghey haircuts or shaping eyebrows… You know, ghey shit.

Nor am I taking about wearing 200 dollar t-shirts and 500 dollar jeans.

That’s try hard. They harder a guy tries, the more he speaks about how soft and mushy his internals are.

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@Sentient

So are those 10s or nah? Rhetorical 😆

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“For the record, I’m not talking about wearing tight pants and shiny shirts, or getting ghey haircuts or shaping eyebrows… You know, ghey shit.

Nor am I taking about wearing 200 dollar t-shirts and 500 dollar jeans.”

….should be obvious I’m not talking about any of that dumb shit. Apparently not.

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Show and tell.

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Let’s say no. K

““Waiting for them backwards rationalizations from them WIA fanboys. “dude like who cares what another man thinks is a 10”.””

How is this a backwards rationalization?

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Drop by any time, Regent. Reality will still be available.

“If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen” — Harry Truman

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Hot off the back of that lay 2 weeks back there was only one target at the weeding in Prague (weekend just gone) who was just beautiful but I wasn’t able to get any attraction from her unfortunately so that was a wash-out. Tried my best with the teases and the DHV’s and what not, but she was never into it. At the time I regretted not being braver and not just escalating despite the lack of IOI’s from her but in hindsight (and after speaking to mutual friends) i’m pretty sure It wouldn’t have worked out anyway (I just… Read more »

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“Who is J?”

Bwahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha

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@ford

👍 Girls are where you find them.

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Ford IRL

“girls are where you find them” (cough cough – Culum…)

Concur. Nice example of being a normal guy who can speak to girls.

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Palma IAS

“he’s bigger than me and smarter than me”

Same thing here. It’s good to know the model line is improving, better brakes, more HP, better suspension…

All good. This is what it’s about IAS, this DNA transmitted to the next model line. Palma’s gonna have those tall grandkids around his bed one day.
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fyi cool Flikr account of these kinds of pics https://www.flickr.com/photos/136041510@N05/24135765000/in/photostream/

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@Sentient – noted. Now that I’m a bit more settled into my training, I’m starting to learn a bit more of the local language, so I can at least start interacting with the girls around me. Full conversations are a while away but at least I can have conversations in shops and restaurants and practice my nonverbals and lasering etc. @scars – indeed. That’s your blind spot. Everyone has one. Mine is that I struggle when I’m cold approaching to connect to the same attitude that gets me laid super consistently with online girls. Yours is that you seem to… Read more »

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@ Regent

What are your good guy friends ITL telling you about your situation these days?

What’s their advice? What do you think of their advice?

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@ SJF

Regent lacks basic discipline. All his credibility perches atop a triangle of ignorance, laziness and arrogance.

Apart they aren’t too bad but together they are deadly.

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“All his credibility perches atop a triangle of ignorance, laziness and arrogance.”

Lol.

I’m having a hard time slogging through St. Augustine’s Confessions. So far, through the first four chapters is a reminiscence of Augie being ingnorant, lazy and arrogant up to the time he was 27 years old. And he seemed to have regretted that dearly. But someone helped him through that. And he writes about it in a comfortable tone. Like he’s at peace with his soul, at the time of writing the book.

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And one of the reasons I cultivated good friendships with red pill buddies was as an antidote to ignorance (blind spots), laziness (seeing them move forward with great strides), and arrogance. On the arrogance note, it is related to one of the 16 commandments: XI. Be irrationally self-confident No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog’s instinct for uncovering weakness in men;… Read more »

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“True Humility (as opposed to False Humility) opens you up to being teachable, receptive to recieving correction, training and feedback.” Arrogance vs. certsinty….. Based upon most people’s sketchy understanding of the world and themselves, those acting with certainty (humility) are considered confident and arrogant to insecure types. People will not accept definitives. There’s always a need to build in wiggle room in their lives as they’re routinely unsure of their abilities and purpose. Purposeful, consequential, creative people are arrogant to the indecisive. Stop being indecisive = Be irrationally self-confident Acting on bad plan is better than acting no plan is… Read more »

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So this is an Irish all-woman group I’ve been watching on Youtube a lot over the last few days – I stumbled on them by accident and really liked them so have had them on a lot: I’ve been thinking about why I have such a strong visceral reaction to them. I mean sure, they’re attractive enough (and generally I go for this “type” in terms of looks) but they’re not amazingly hot or anything. The music is pleasant enough, but again, nothing amazing. But I have a powerful visceral attraction to them when watching this and I can only… Read more »

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“The music is pleasant enough, but again, nothing amazing.”

The popification of barn dance music drives me a bit nuts.

Mairéad Hickey of county Cork, as southern Irish as you can get:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_UTQguWz4I

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Alright looksmaxxing guide coming a little later into the afternoon.

For now, I highly recommend reading this article by Chase on Social and Sexual Acceptability. and the importance of looksmaxxing (or fundamentals as Chase calls it):

https://www.girlschase.com/content/social-acceptability-and-sexual-acceptability-dating

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Since looxsmaxxing got brought up, For anyone who read the RSD forums, ‘cowboy’ was the poster child lol Read all about ‘game’ and got rejection after rejection implementing all of the theory No joy. Got plastic surgery (jaw implants, otoplasty, chin implant, nose job and some other stuff. Lots of money) https://imgur.com/a/lIcMbvv Now he is somewhat of a slayer banging very hot young girls according to the pics he posted before RSD went down In fact, not only that, he actually ended up rejecting ‘game’ in terms of anyy technical stuff and feels it does him more harm than good… Read more »

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Culum Palma Interesting topic. But there’s something in the “subcomms” there that I really respond strongly to, and I’m struggling to pin it down. Yes you are attracted to their base femininity, the polarity. I see it this way – after a long day of collecting mastodon meat or beating back raiders the ur-dude came back to the shelter and just wanted some care. A bit of food, a drink, maybe a compress on a bruise and chillax, maybe have his brood paraded before him as a helpful reminder of why he didn’t just take off for the next town.… Read more »

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Palma

Agree some illustration would go a long way. Would be great if Cartoonist could do it, he has the perspective.

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Palma

So what happened with your boy? He show up or not?

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Triggering IOIs on steroids. I wrote this guide with the following person in mind: you are between the age of 18-40 (inb4 “so you saying if I’m 17/41 this guide useless to me?”) you’re not dark skinned (black, indian guys with very dark skin, just skip the section on ‘tan glowy skin). you are at least 5’10” (http://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2019/08/11/the-ultimate-post-on-male-height/) Live in the USA (only because most of these are american products I believe). Intermediate level game: at least 50 cold approach lays. or basically you know what you’re doing for the most part. and can do most of it on autopilot.… Read more »

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@j

Thanks for your the link to Secret Society in your reply to @YoungShagger.

This is an intriguing eye-opener for me and gives me some perspective on my past dealings with women and their conduct. 😊

It took a bit of searching, but I just wanted to check back that this link to Tyler Durden’s analysis of SS is correct:

https://bristollair.com/secret-society/

TantumErgo

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Free Looksmaxxing Guide–worth every penny you pay for it! Clip random laissez faire hair in nose and ears…wash your shit stained boxers so that they’re clean before going out…if you don’t have time, douse your boxers in cologne and deodorant Check up from the neck up…you’re the life of the party and you’re bringing the party with you…of course, the neighbors may call the cops on you, so be ready to bug out at a moment’s notice… Stand tall…head back, chest out, belly in, smiling big so that people can see your awesome buck teeth Walk with a spring in… Read more »

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Field Report Person of interest: College student front desk girl (FDG) at my hotel I checked in to the hotel with family and she was the sweetest and most helpful hotel person I’ve ever run into. FDG met my requests within five minutes of asking them. Daughter Gamer thought that she was really sweet. I asked FDG about places to dance and she came up with something on a Mon/Tues–which seemed weird–and she steered me towards that place…we chatted a bunch and FDG paints and cooks…has her own apt….not old enough to drink legally…when I told FDG that we were… Read more »

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@Culum: you bring a very interesting topic. I can’t say the women in the clip you posted really did it for me (although I would definitely be interested in the brunette – despite the age, and the red head violinist), but they do display something… Alluring.

I think I get that vibe from Susanna Hoffs:
https://giphy.com/gifs/80s-music-bangles-susanna-hoffs-v8xmVfox6XOq4

I definitely got that vibe from a girl I had a major crush in high school (I had One-itis for her for quiiite a while).

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@IAS – yeah, it’s interesting isn’t it? The way you have a response but can’t pin down the reasons for the response? Susannah Hoff is attractive but I don’t react to her the same way. It’s also personal to some extent I think. As for the women in my video – they are cute, but they are actually not all that beautiful – that was exactly why I was puzzled because I reacted so strongly to them (yes, I think the brunette is the best of the lot – I just googled her and she’s just turned 30, so not… Read more »

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I mean, look at this video for example (from the Pitch Perfect movie):

By any objective standard, these women are way hotter than the Irish girls (err..except Rebel Wilson). They are at least as good at singing.

But just…nothing. No reaction from me. I mean they’re sexy – I’d bang them. But just zero visceral reaction to them compared to the Irish girls.

I know it’s the “base femininity” thing Sentient talked about, but I find it interesting I can’t pin it down to anything specific – it’s just the vibe and energy from them.

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lol. If you want “femininity” then make her feminine (hint: they all have it inside them. Its natural. It’s just a matter of them not wanting to act that way because they haven’t found the right guy to surrender to). I find the challenge of turning bitches into girly girls fun tbh. And besides. Those feminine nice girls are usually boring as fuck lol. Getting a girl with an actually personality to start embracing her feminine side around you, gets you the best of both worlds.

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“feminine” and “fun” are not mutually exclusive. And “feminine” doesn’t mean “stupid” either. Just as “masculine” doesn’t necessarily mean “big, dumb jock whose vocabulary is limited to grunting”.

But yes, it’s possible of course for a girl to become more feminine, just as it is possible for a man to strengthen his frame and become more masculine. It’s just hard work and most girls these days a) don’t understand what femininity means; and b) don’t see the value in it anyway for many reasons discussed in this blog.

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Culum, how do you test whether a girl is really feminine or is just faking it?

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““feminine” and “fun” are not mutually exclusive. And “feminine” doesn’t mean “stupid” either.”

Never said it was…

This that feminine vibe you after right?
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“It’s just hard work”

not really.

“and most girls these days don’t understand what femininity means”

Sure they do. They will embrace that side of them once they meet the right guy. Then they go from this:
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to this:
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Field Report — being a gypsy puts a damper on social life, but being with family is still cool I didn’t go out last night. I got a total of 9 hours of sleep the last two nights and was just too tired. I was too busy catching up from all the traveling to take a nap. On the plus side, I got to play with the baby a lot and that was a thrill. It’s a kick when the little girl brings a book over to grandpa and wants to sit in his lap and read it with him.… Read more »

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” Getting a girl with an actually personality to start embracing her feminine side around you, gets you the best of both worlds.”

“Getting a girl who has believed the blue pill bullshit of feminism to start embracing her feminine side around you, gets you the best of both worlds.”

fify

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Culum, I was dancing with a high school girl who was out with her parents–teaching her how to dance. She was wearing a skirt and was new to dancing, yet could follow me just fine, even though she was being a dork and looking at her feet. This girl obviously was quite comfortable being a girl and showed it by the way she followed.

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Hello. Can anyone here direct me to the post, where the big debate about looks took place here with Yareally and other veteran commenters and also the thread where Yareally was expressing the difference between Roosh and the RSD way of Game. Thank you.

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Looks debate starts here on page 2:

https://therationalmale.com/2015/09/16/a-man-in-demand-conference-the-review/comment-page-2/#comments

“the thread where Yareally was expressing the difference between Roosh and the RSD way of Game.”

That one I don’t know. But both those styles are trash so it doesn’t really matter.

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YaReally 2015: “Guys who dress up WILL get some initial head-turns, dance invites, girls opening them, etc. (aka Approach Invites) but those ultimately mean NOTHING” If by “NOTHING” he meant you’ll be viewed as socially and sexually acceptable to fuck for taking pride in your outer appearance (+ working out), then ya. It means absolutely NOTHING. (https://www.girlschase.com/content/social-acceptability-and-sexual-acceptability-dating) “Let this sink in: Your game that lets you TURN those Approach Invites into LAYS is what’s important” Ya but what got you those Approach invites/Indicators of Interest in the first place? Oh ya. Being above her looks threshold (YES/MAYBE girl). (Sperg alert:… Read more »

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@J

Thanks. What do you recommend for an absolute beginner? I am looking to start off with daytime. I am such a beginner that I am starting with just asking women directions. And working on one thing at a time.

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I’d recommend joining Ultimate Man Project’s facebook group. They just finished writing a book which covers both night and day game. Once you’re in the group, you can put your pre-order in. Or wait for me to share a torrent over here like in about a month or something. When I was a beginner, I got a lot of value out of watching infields to give me a feel for what pickup looks like. Only guy I’d recommend is JP who is Todd’s assistant. His infield’s in Todd’s program, The System, are good shit.

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I am not doing nightgame consistently due to me just starting Uni and have to work part time. Any specific resources for that? I have just come across LDM with Yad, Krauser etc. Any alternative approaches to daygame. Roosh’s daybang seems something I could start off with. I was looking at Fearless Man youtube channel and got the progressive desensitization to approaching by asking directions and then moving on to other things

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“just starting Uni and have to work part time”

good for you and good for…you’ll do well

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let’s try this again…

“just starting Uni and have to work part time”

good for you and good for you…you’ll do well

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“Any specific resources for that?”

For NightGame I’d recommend Saul Tee’s Technical Game Bible:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463682009089179648/547063045067636746/TGB.pdf

Stay away from London Daygamers and Roosh. Their game is shit. Like I said, I’d wait for UMP’s book for specifics on daygame (if you get Todd’s The System, there’s several infields of both Todd and JP breaking down their (and their students) day game insta-dates which are good for beginners to see). I know those guys have good game. I’d recommend Bacchus’s daygame stuff to you, but he’s stuff is for more advanced players.

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@Palma –

Pictures/video get inserted (aka “embedded”) automatically if you cut and paste the link directly to the video or picture into your post.

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Right, let’s go, a bunch of comments: @TantumErgo – your link is to the original forum post about the Secret Society many years ago by Tyler. It’s the first articulation of the idea, where he first coins the term. It’s absolutely legit, but it’s been expanded on and explained many times over the years by Tyler himself and others (and in Youtube etc), including by our own YaReally. I’m sure you get this, but just in case for lurkers etc – there is of course not a literal secret society that all women and 2% of men belong to. It’s… Read more »

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@theasdgamer: question does not compute. My definition of “femininity” (in this context) is basically that it makes me respond in a particular way. If I respond in that way to a woman then she is by definition feminine – there is no question of “faking” it. Or to put it another way it doesn’t matter if she’s doing it consciously or unconsciously – she’s still feminine. @j: You’re basically saying that femininity is inherent in women and will come out in the right circumstances (ie, for the right man). Well..kind of. Yes, the instincts are inherent but a lot of… Read more »

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@Culum “You’re basically saying that femininity is inherent in women and will come out in the right circumstances (ie, for the right man).” yes. And as for as long as you remain the right man, she’ll stay that way: Just don’t be foolish enough to marry a girl who’s been a slut for most of her life. She ain’t the right girl for that: http://i.imgur.com/rrLe319.jpg But hey, if its feminine behavior you after, you can certainly get that from her while you’re together. “It’s kind of like saying all men have the inherent instincts of an African savannah warrior and… Read more »

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Women are told that being feminine is catering to patriarchy and hurts women. Women have been brainwashed in this regard and thus they often try to tone down any inherent femininity and consciously try to appear masculine. “My definition of “femininity” (in this context) is basically that it makes me respond in a particular way. If I respond in that way to a woman then she is by definition feminine – there is no question of “faking” it. Or to put it another way it doesn’t matter if she’s doing it consciously or unconsciously – she’s still feminine.” …it doesn’t… Read more »

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@j

I know an Indian guy much, much uglier than “Deepak” whose face looks like 20 miles of bad road and whose features are a little “off” and who’s slaying it…because he’s really dominant…girls like masculinity…

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@theasdgamer – I’ll say it one more time – femininity (in the sense described here) cannot be faked. It is defined by its effect. If the effect is there, the femininity is there. Doesn’t matter if it is conscious or unconscious, doesn’t matter if the girl is not usually like that and she’s only acting like that for you (see j’s post on this point). What you’re saying is kind of like asking if someone is faking being good at basketball. You can’t “fake” it. If you can consistently sink the 3-pointers like Curry, then by definition you are good… Read more »

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Oh and PS – my analogy about femininity was spot on. Femininity is an instinct, but expressing it is a skill. You need both (or as Sentient called it “nature” and “nurture” in his earlier post).

Ever been with an inexperienced girl who desperately wanted to please you but didn’ tknow how to give a good blow job?

It’s not that different.

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In fact, let me repost this here from the old Looks thread – it’s one of HABD’s posts which summarizes the key points in about 1/10th of the space YaReally did. We didn’t really need to have 500 comments arguing the point after this post from HABD, because he nailed it, but this kind of belief is pretty core to some people’s identity (such as our own single-letter-username poster) and it’s hard to change someone’s mind if his self-identity depends on believing it. Anyway here’s HABD: “having a bad dayOFFLINE @scray @Andy @Rollo ‘for me, ex, if i’m short, off… Read more »

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One more single-post explanation of “Looks Matter” again saying almost the same thing as HABD and YaReally, this time from our own @IRL (from a different thread, not the Mega Looks Thread). I’m reposting these because these posts deserve the exposure and get the point across in some ways better than YaReally (who hammered every point into the ground, but many people simply don’t have the patience to follow his walls of text): “The ‘looks’ thing… Why argue? Lol… TL;DR looks matter only if there’s nothing else that spikes her RAS stronger… Don’t make them matter. It’s exactly like verbals… Read more »

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Meanwhile… Palma wrote and published a book in what four days?

THAT my friends is the difference between “hustle” fraudsters and the real deal.

Good Luck man. I expect you will find some 💸

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@Culum already debunked @IRL’s post here: https://therationalmale.com/2019/02/27/the-global-sexual-marketplace/comment-page-3/#comment-270955 now lets debunk @HABD’s post Disclaimer: what I’m about to say is really mean, but necessary. All <3 “so, looks matter to the extent that you can use that (social ‘conformity’ = a guy she is ‘supposed to like’) to get some initial attraction/IOIs” yeah. Or you look like someone she’s hooked up with in the past. “…but that initial attraction isn’t going to carry the bang…lol” Mostly agree. Sometimes girls will do all the work lol. “… but it will put you into beta orbiter status a lot easier…lol” Ok now we… Read more »

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“It’s a kick when the little girl brings a book over to grandpa and wants to sit in his lap and read it with him. The feeling is a lot like the release of orgasm.”

Ahhh. Come again?

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re: Looks Just from a purely evolutionary perspective, muscle is extremely metabolically expensive, so a guy with high lean body mass, by default, has to be successful. And extraordinarily successful at that. Our bodies are extremely resistant to putting on muscle without having a damn good reason to do it, because it’s metabolically expensive to put on and maintain. To put on a lot of muscle, you need to be thriving, not just surviving. Purely evolutionary standpoint? Your muscular body is evidence of both your ability to compete and defend yourself, as well as provide resources. There’s a reason women’s… Read more »

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Jesus Christ .

Men are fucked .

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@Palma – thank you. @j: HABD can speak for himself, but I will add a couple of points from my perspective ““… but it will put you into beta orbiter status a lot easier…lol” Ok now we start with the bullshit? Really Culum. You believe this garbage. Being good looking makes it a lot easier for her to put you in the beta orbiter status rather than making it a lot easier for her to hook up with you? smh.” I think it would be more accurate to say “beta provider”, not “beta orbiter”, because you can get the girl… Read more »

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Nearly pulled a hot one last night but just couldn’t get her to invite me back. Really pretty Russian blonde girl with amazing eyes! Tried some plausible deniability stuff but wasn’t happening. Didn’t help that she had work in the morning and stuff. We’d been making out and getting handsy and she’d been grinding her pussy on my knee HARD whilst we were dancing and stuff lol. Thought she was gonna cum at one point! haha She actually recognised me from tinder in the beer garden after I opened her friend! That’s how it started. And I just had a… Read more »

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@Culum “Hint: it’s related to the dynamic where a successful guy can get a girl home for an SNL from the club at 3am and she sees the size of his apartment (or that he drives a nice car, whatever) and a girl who was ready to bang him 10 minutes ago will suddenly start talking about how she’s not that kind of girl and they should go out for dinner etc.” Um how exactly is it related to guy running provider game? You saying a good looking guy can pull a girl for a SNL from the club and… Read more »

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@j Oh god, I was just about to step away from the computer and then you posted. Okay, I’ve got 15 minutes, let me get into this, although I’m now getting dangerously close to the “repeating myself” line because your mental block won’t let you process the points I’m making: ““Hint: it’s related to the dynamic where a successful guy can get a girl home for an SNL from the club at 3am and she sees the size of his apartment (or that he drives a nice car, whatever) and a girl who was ready to bang him 10 minutes… Read more »

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Palma

You might check out this for illustrations

https://www.fiverr.com/categories/graphics-design/digital-illustration?source=hplo_subcat_first_step&pos=5

Very cheap.

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@Culum “I’m now getting dangerously close to the “repeating myself” line because your mental block won’t let you process the points I’m making” Repeating yourself or repeating the talking points YaReally made (which I’ve already read) 3 years ago? #hmmm “I know you are capable of figuring the point out. It’s not that hard – you just need to take HABD’s logic and project it forward a little bit” No I’m actually retarded. Your gonna have to spell this one out for me, chief. “in makes her think in that direction and start to categorize you that way”. No it… Read more »

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@Palmasailor

Son didn’t show but thanks for asking.

well, that’s too bad… but he really didn’t have much time to process before he hit that decision point…

at least the seed is planted now… just pick something that you need HIS help with and try again…

good luck!

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Do Looks Matter debate doesn’t matter… lol Because ultimately it boils down to “don’t wish it were easier, wish you were better”. As per Chase’s stories in this article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-much-do-looks-matter-romantic-success TL;DR version but it misses the story telling: https://www.girlschase.com/dating/do-looks-matter-to-women-science-says-no @Sentient From the first link: In the book Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell cites the curious case of hockey players born in January, February, and March far outnumbering all other hockey players in the Canadian Hockey League, while players born in October, November, and December are very underrepresented in the CHL. Why is this so? Are people born in the first three months… Read more »

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@Culum So this is an Irish all-woman group I’ve been watching on Youtube a lot over the last few days – I stumbled on them by accident and really liked them so have had them on a lot: I’ve been thinking about why I have such a strong visceral reaction to them. I mean sure, they’re attractive enough (and generally I go for this “type” in terms of looks) but they’re not amazingly hot or anything. The music is pleasant enough, but again, nothing amazing. But I have a powerful visceral attraction to them when watching this and I can… Read more »

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@j lol… dude, you crack me up… it is kind of nice, though…lol… it’s kind of like watching a kid who has already lost the belief in the easter bunny and the tooth fairy hanging on to that last little belief in the magic of santa claus…lol i mentioned this in a comment to @walawala but seeing behind the curtain (being RP)… all the f*kin’ time!… really is tiring (it’s probably worse for me… being a ‘sperg and all)… and it put me off ‘girls’ for a while (i had some residual anger phase flair up…lol)… i’ve got it back,… Read more »

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“The “naturals” I know who do the best with women aren’t just pretty faces and nothing else. They’re handsome” Ok so they’ve been above the Looks Threshold for their entire life. That affords them the luxury to “not worry about their looks” (they’re just delusional that it doesn’t have an impact). Whether these guys close girls or not will always come down to game. Which is demonstrating, but not limited to: “Do you “get” women, and Do you know what to do with them?” Since we’re sharing articles by Chase, how about one more: https://www.girlschase.com/content/girls-who-want-sleep-you-usually-know-it-right-away “If a woman is going… Read more »

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“she knows it the moment you approach. “

LOL. I love how these kind of bald assertions (which are contrary to what girls actually say) become fact.

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Of course if your “game” amounts to IOI hunting and screening, you would come up with shit like this… lolz

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@HABD “this is totally in chasing (in her frame) mode” lol. Alright man. but don’t go complaining about why she feels uncomfortable flirting with you in public with people she knows (hot girls always being in groups and all) when you look like this: “THEN he goes on to tell you that if you ARE short… OR tooo tall (lol)… which is apparently ALSO a problem…lol… he can ‘help you’… with his paid consultations/books…lol” The solution for both guys who are too short and too tall are in the article free of charge. Don’t mislead people. “and to let the… Read more »

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Most guys won’t ever have desire sex and have no idea what it even is. They mistake ” horny ” desire sex.

I’d bet 10’000 $ it’s rare to get it out of a club with somebody you just met. You.can put your pee pee inside of the., But that’s not desire sex, mainly because you had to physically go out to get.

Your doing the chasing. Cancels out the ” desire ” part And replaces it with ” want “.

Want is amazing and good enough for the masses.

But words still have meaning.

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Lmao shut up old man 😂

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“don’t go complaining about why she feels uncomfortable flirting with you in public with people she knows (hot girls always being in groups and all) when you look like this:”

Is that RSDLuke?

Interesting, thinking about things I never see… One is PUA instructors that are good looking talking about guys needing to get better looking…

Hmmm.

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“One is PUA instructors that are good looking talking about guys needing to get better looking”

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