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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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“Your doing the chasing.”

Impact with high-order detonation yields:

“Lmao shut up old man.”

Said only by the unfuckable.

No one chasing that hard is getting laid. No one throwing good money after bad to get laid is getting laid. No one that expectant of another’s respect is getting laid. No one writing about getting laid exploits is getting laid.

j is not getting laid.

It just doesn’t happen to dudes with zero confidence in themselves. 6’s won’t fuck that.

What does j have to hide? Everything. His meaning depends on it.

I hope he doesn’t do anything rash. Oh well, have a great evening.

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J

Exactly my point. You and your Lookism.com bros would be fitting Alex for leg extensions and chin implants.

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“Is that RSDLuke?” actually lol’d @Blax There’s a lot to that. Nothing like a girl showing up unannounced at 2 in the morning dying to fuck you with no strings attached. I think it says a lot if you think a girl is really into you, but she would only be willing to fuck you if you go out of your way to meet up at her place, and would not go out of her way to accommodate you and drive herself to YOUR place. I suppose I’m just lazy. My preferred way for both business and girls is for… Read more »

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I’ve heard many a story of girls telling guys “fuck me right now, I want you to fuck me hard right now,” and the feeling I had after the story was over was that it was not even remotely “desire sex.” I pulled a friend out of a situation where a girl was saying exactly those words; she thought nobody else could hear her. Why? Because I happened to know she was a babymomma with at least two kids by two different men, and she was probably ovulating. For sure she was cleaned up real good…and she was extremely hot… Read more »

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“Most guys won’t ever have desire sex and have no idea what it even is.” There’s desire sex (her getting so turned on by you, and you getting so turned on by her, that both of ya’ll want to get down and dirty) and obligation (“something by which a person is bound or obliged to do certain things, and which arises out of a sense of duty or results from custom”) sex. Pulling a girl in a single night will not lead to obligation duty sex. She has zero obligation to come home with me, or invite me over to… Read more »

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“not trying get doxxed bruh…”

What does j have to lose?

All credibility as a playa.

Fraud alert!

Doxxed. Lol. Nothing to dox.

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“What does j have to lose?

All credibility as a playa.”

lol. Aight. If @palma (he’s a credible source, right?) wants to hop over the pond to come chase (“LOLOLOLOL who’s frame are you in???”) women with me, then I’ll meet up. Toss me you’re email, palma. We’ll set it up.

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“She has zero obligation to come [down into my parents basement] with me.”

What a canard. Had to stay in….man…what a tool. .

Anyhow keep it up you little rascal! (Insert head rubbing.)

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Why palmasailor?

Why not anyone here?

What do you fear, tiger?

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“Pulling a girl in a single night will not lead to obligation duty sex. ”

Lolz

You sure about that? You ever read a FRA? They nearly all have this in common – she felt obligated or pressured… If she remained concious.

I get the misunderstanding about looks from your guys though. They don’t know any actually good looking guys IRL.

Alex is a boyish guy. Girls would say he is cute. None would say he is OMG So Hawt!!! So your example fails my observational test.

Lyon, not being Alex…

https://www.instagram.com/p/BspcFMWgN_c/

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Sentient The adv he ice the lookism adherents to by is to ” get this kind of haircut ” and ” wear this type of outfit “, then go to a specific place ( a club ). J posts up dudes that all look pretty much the same. He fails to realize that hunting on a game preserve is different than being a real hunter that hints in the wild, so he’s spending time in places where 90% of the guys are some kind of carbon copy of one another. He’s never witnessed a biker that hasn’t bagged in a… Read more »

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Btw, my opinion, that guy in the video doesn’t even look like a full grown man imo. Nor does he sound like one.

But…

Even he’ll get laid because girls fuck.

He throws around ” you’re a fucking idiot ” a lot for a guy that looks like a large 12 year old.

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@Culum Femininity cannot be faked because girls never lie, wear makeup, wear pushup bras, etc. Masculinity can be faked, but femininity cannot. Got it. Thanks for cluing me in. (See? I can be agreeable. I’m always kind of a dick. But only to people whom I actually like.) XD Yeah, Eh works on the same principle, being a dick to people he likes. Maybe SJF, too. @looksmaxxers “It pays to look good.” Funny, I can wear shit clothes and be unshaven and people still wanna chat me up. I have that entitlement vibe and life of the party vibe going.… Read more »

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Femininity isn’t about makeup or frilly dresses and shit like that.

Again, I’d wager guys j’s age haven’t even seen much real femininity because it’s dying out.

Femininity is the polar opposite of masculinity ( the other dying thing ). Femininity is complementary to masculinity. In our current femcentric society, there’s nothing to encourage or feed femininity, so it dies on the fine early on.

So. ” sexy ” oft is confused with ” femininity “. Masculinity finds femininity” sexy ” , but sexy isn’t necessarily feminine in current society.

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Palma Lol. You start out ” chasing ” until 1) you learn Game. 2) you get a good understanding of female nature outside of chasing them in their frame. 3) you mature enough to not want to lower yourself to the status of a horny teenager. Young pua guys that do manage to bang more chicks than the average guy? It becomes very similar to playing video games. Some even get addicted. So they stay overly excited and stimulated like crack heads or meth users, thinking their pursuit is of their own free will. And in this case, the chicks… Read more »

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effeminacy

Lol. Instead of looking to get plastic surgery, motherfuckers need a masculinity -maxxing forum.

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“https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effeminacy”

https://youtu.be/gJcoXC6PKro

Oh yeah forgot to ask

“Most guys won’t ever have desire sex and have no idea what it even is. They mistake ” horny ” desire sex”

Difference between “horny” desire sex and desire sex? Or are we just inventing new terms again so that you feel better about yourself (hehe well he may be having horny desire sex. BUT I’M having desire sex)? Thx

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I’ve got a new post up that I hope is a step further along the road to understanding femininity. Some women fake femininity in order to get sex, but they are uncomfortable behaving in a feminine way outside of a sexual frame. Others are intrinsically feminine and are comfortable behaving in a feminine way. Some few women actually prefer behaving in a feminine way. As Blax said, those women are a dying breed.

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“partly providing incels from incels.co with a place ed towards escaping inceldom”

Oh hell. j is worse off than he appears to be. I feel no joy in knowing this.

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😂

Love ya but you’re too young and inexperienced to grasp the difference between horny and desire. You came in the door only ever wanting to pull and bang randoms as fast as possible. It limits your practical experience.

If a man asks ” what’s the difference between “, it’s apparent he does not know.

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@HABD –

LOL at “Snow White” – I thought she looked familiar but I hadn’t made the connection. But I see what you mean now. Perhaps that’s why @IAS and I agreed she was the most “alluring” of the lot..

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While we’re at it. Gonna need you to explain your “because girls fuck” to me as well. Because i have trouble understanding why guys (including guys who’ve been in the game a lot longer than me on this very forum) struggle with young attractive girls. Because girls fuck, right?

Preciate it ☺️. Ok back to work.

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@J

The main issue I think the guys on here have with you is that you are completely in the girls frame with all your actions with respect to them.
It’s all about the girls instead of being about you, this may come back to haunt you at some point, I speak from experience.

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“struggle with young attractive girls. ”

writes the incel not pulling any girls.

Btw the reason j posts pics of pretty boys and such is his Elliot Rodgers style butthurt reference of his competition. He doesnt want to come off such but can’t not obsess about it. These are the guys he hates through boiling envy and posts pics of them in a love-to-hate fashion.

He can’t get beyond a cliched incel idea of the lucky pretty guys getting laid. It succours his inferiority daddy-neglected-me complex.

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You need me to explain the difference between clams and oysters too? If for any reason ( incel, ugly, lack of social skills ) a man doesn’t understand the basic principle that girls fuck, it stays with him if he has to learn how to have sex with them. He tends to think without some kind of attractant, women just don’t have sex. So down the endless rabbit hold of shortcuts he goes because when he gets laid, he believes he’s cracked some kind of code involving haircuts, cologne, shoes, working out and inhabiting exclusive places. He thinks women never… Read more »

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@Blax “So down the endless rabbit hold of shortcuts he goes because when he gets laid, he believes he’s cracked some kind of code involving haircuts, cologne, shoes, working out and inhabiting exclusive places. He thinks women never ever just bang guys just because. Guys that think like that haven’t spent a lot of time around women outside of only trying to cajole and convince them to have sex ( females frame ).” The truth pretty much right there, I will say that most of the manosphere pushes the above in some form or another so I get where the… Read more »

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Why do they choose to fuck certain guys over others? What do those guys have that others don’t? Theoretically as you say, they (HB7+) can get it damn near asap, but they choose to fuck the same guys. Whether it’s: Above Average Looks + Game guys, High Status (game or gameless) guys or Looks guys. It’s not randomly going out on a girls night to fuck Johnny incel. You want it? Then become that guy, hot girls want to fuck. They aint going through all that work of buying expensive makeup, expensive clothes, butt workouts, eating right, to fuck any… Read more »

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“Why do they choose to fuck certain guys over others? What do those guys have that others don’t? Theoretically as you say, they (HB7+) can get it damn near asap, but they choose to fuck the same guys. Whether it’s”

Self selecting demographic, remember you are looking at a limited set of data. What Blax and others are trying to tell you is that there is a world outside of PUA, and those guys are getting pussy and putting in less way effort than you are, open your eyes look around.

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“they choose to fuck the same guys.”

j writes primarily from the female perspective as if all the sexual decision making lies there.

That’s incel frame.

Contrast that from any other established guy posting. They write from their own perspective.

j begins in her frame as he has zero idea what it is like to have a woman care enough to pursue him.

He’s a slicksyer fraud.

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“those guys are getting pussy and putting in less way effort than you are” Social circle game is how most people get laid. I don’t know about effort? lol. I view the hobby of getting a new girl, from knowing nothing about me to resting her head on my chest at the end of the night, fun in of itself. When it doesnt do anything for me anymore, is when I’ll walk away and pick up a new hobby. Maybe even take a look at social circle game (when I get a job where the girls I work with are… Read more »

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Fox guy Dudes beholden to pua thought are 100% invested in shit like j says. He has no real world experiences, so he goes by what dudes on forums say ( that have no real world experiences either ). I try to get j to think just a little, but the baby won’t let go of the blankie because he likes it and it feels comfortable. Girls fuck all kinds of dudes when they want to. Pua disagrees, that doesn’t change the long standing facts that are still evident if you aren’t only depending on other guys to explain stuff… Read more »

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@j “THEN he goes on to tell you that if you ARE short… OR tooo tall (lol)… which is apparently ALSO a problem…lol… he can ‘help you’… with his paid consultations/books…lol” The solution for both guys who are too short and too tall are in the article free of charge. Don’t mislead people. lol… his ‘solution’ was to ‘Don’t hunch!’, wear heels/inserts… and LIE…lol… BC that’s what GIRLS do…lol If you are not particularly tall, there is not so much you can do, but all is not lost. If your posture is bad, I would work on that as this… Read more »

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@Blaximus

There aren’t many female incel forums. Why is that?

there ARE however, many forums dedicated to girls extracting resources from guys…lol… why is THAT?…(rhetorical…lol)

good luck!

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J Perfect example of you only getting your information from guys without understanding what women do. Cats are not dogs. Women don’t dress, wear makeup or workout to attract men the same way men are prone to do to attract women. 90% of all of what women do wrt to looks is in direct competition with other women. Women do not sweat men the same way men sweat women. Attracting men is mostly a byproduct for the more attractive chicks. That’s why complementing them on how they look is a flood errand. When a man enters that feminine frame of… Read more »

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Re: masculinity -maxxing forum
Look around the interwebs. We’re here.

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“AF/desire sex/validational sex only takes place (CAN only take place) in the man’s frame… when SHE comes to HIM… that’s the only way it CAN be bc THAT submission by her is what triggers that part of her bio chemistry… as well as yours…” @ HABD IMO validation or AF sex is yet a bilateral insecurity reduction transaction. It may not be a out-of-pocket loss, yet in the Jungian sense she is desiring a man to reduce her feelings of inconsequence and he believes she is fucking him for him. It is yet a transaction and such dangerous for men… Read more »

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…‘obligation sex’ is just a subset of transactional/BB sex… it is in her frame… and by providing her ‘obligation sex’ she secures a continuation of resources… just like other transactional sex secures her resources (in its many forms… one of which is ‘social proof’…lol… think about a ‘doctor’s wife’… (no offense SJF…lol)… she gets social proof (among other things) from THAT type of sex… hey! that sounds just like those club girls trading social proof for sex with you!…lol… just barely not kidding… I definitely don’t take offense to that HABD. Our social set is composed of 80% non beta… Read more »

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90% of all of what women do wrt to looks is in direct competition with other women. Women do not sweat men the same way men sweat women. Attracting men is mostly a byproduct for the more attractive chicks. Something most men really just don’t understand I think. Sex is not a big deal to women, in that they can always get it. It’s available on tap, and pretty much regardless of how they look — there are plenty of guys who will bang uggos, and there are plenty of “good looking” guys who will bang Plain Jane 5s without… Read more »

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It is literally NO BIG DEAL to women in a way that almost no (straight) man can comprehend, because most straight men live in a world of scarcity when it comes to sex. No woman does.

and women also have sex for lots of reasons besides desire, arousal, AF (seed) or BB (provision)…

Lonely, validation, bored, angry (at someone else), revenge, because her friends are, etc.

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@ novaseeker “Sex is not a big deal to women, in that they can always get it.” I want to riff on this. True what you write above though women are not getting it from not the quality of man they’d like otherwise we never hear “They are no good men around no more!” They do care about who they’re banging somewhat as it reflects on their self-respect, so they can’t always get it as they won’t fuck down. There is a sexual fail-safe point. Hypergamy controls her sexual negotiation, I guess, in a way. She’s gonna have to up… Read more »

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@HABD “If a woman is going to go to bed with you, she knows it the moment you approach. You still will end up doing things like: “Spending time with her[gotta earn game her…]” “Connecting enough with her[bc she is the prize! won’t think you’re just tryin’ pump and dump her ass]” “Showing her whom you are[gotta prove/qualify yourself as good enough for her, ammirite?…lol Demonstrate Higher Value. Standard stuff] “Communicating to her she ‘qualifies’ for you.[lol… i love the scare quotes… can’t even bring himself to make that assertion in his own article…lol]” Because we (hey maybe you guys… Read more »

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@Sentient “Lonely, validation, bored” yup. old school Gunwitch Method: There are 2 types you need to close WAY before the club shuts down. 1 is the out of towner with no friends as mentioned above. Second is what I call bored chicks. These women are in a nutshell there with lots of friends, party vibe is jamming in the place, but they are just sitting there seemingly bored as fuck. Their friends also leave them alone. The reasons here I have found are always similar. Usually this chick is married, hasn’t hooked up in ages cause she never goes to… Read more »

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My divorced acquaintance claims she chews guys up with her crafty womanly wiles. I claim the scenario no different than me fucking a senior citizen. Truth… “we are close and bantering a bit back and forth.. she telling me about her life and qualifying to me she says at one point “you know I fuck 28 YO guys” like it was a brag. she was feisty… I am super calm, hand on my hip, close to her and say “well that’s like me saying I fuck 60 YO women, you know that right?” completely dismissing her boast and BAM! her… Read more »

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” Keys ” he says..😂😂😂

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” gunwhitch ” he says.😂😂

Foxguy

This is what I was talking about earlier. References go back to what some guy said.

That’s why he still thinks having sex in nontraditional places is desire sex he literally has no clue but is positive that he does.

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Eh

Think about it. Look around you.

I never gave one fuck shot the ” no good men ” shit when I heard it back in the 80’s, but watch and listen to younger guys today.

Media and the economy and social media work together to create fantasy worlds that young people think they can have. Anything else is Shitty and unacceptable. Stay tuned to see how this plays out in the future

But….
There aren’t many good men today, courtesy of the FI. Even sex has become masturbation using a girl.

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“” Keys ” he says..” social frame, emotional stimulation, and sexual arousal, are the “three keys” in Gunwitch’s SMMA product. I’ve found “the three keys” to be useful mental model to have when talking to girls I want to sleep with. ” gunwhitch ” he says” Which I’ve found true. I could have simply said, “yes @Sentient that’s true. I’ve picked up girls that were bored sitting on a sofa texting some random guy/girl, and opened, “are you texting your husband? or something to that effect”, but I wanted to give credit where credit is due because that’s who I… Read more »

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Does this ” every girl” only pertain to club girls? Had a few drinks? Ever share a cab with a total stranger and gotten that same blowjob? Again, leave the ” club ” stuff aside. It clouds what you see or what you think you’re seeing. At your age, what’s happening sexually with hot women you meet (I assume ) away from the club? Not girls that text you that you met in a club either, away from all clubs. Hunting in one place constantly gives bad data. Makes skills seen like more than they are in reality. Walk around,… Read more »

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“Even sex has become masturbation using a girl.”

Exactly. Hence my beef with notch counts on principle. The moment a guy fucks for a notch he’s out of his frame. Hence my beef with masturbation in general too. Men do care who’s frame they’re in but won’t admit it for fear of social isolation. Moreover ceding frame happens a lot subtler than guys recognize. Here at TRM too.

WTF is up with j’s inability to grok this? I swear he wills himself stupid or more likely is a incel dressed in playa clothing fishing for cred.

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J is far away from stupid. He grasps pua stuff because it’s what he wanted to grasp. The underlying theme in pua forums and the like, is that only Pua’s know how to seduce women. So if a guy learns pickup and happens to get laid, he’s sold. He’ll only value pua stuff. Just telling a guy he can get laid isn’t sufficient for some men because they just don’t believe it. They couldn’t get laid and aren’t sure why. So guys that can baby step them become mostly infallible God-like men. It’s an industry now. A kind of cult.… Read more »

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“A kind of cult.”

Diily silly (Has that catch phrase passed? I haven’t been keeping score.)

It’s like you tell someone that the sun comes up in the east because it does and relax about it (girls fuck) and they immediately start in telling you why the sun comes up all science-y and certain situations it doesn’t (You’ve got shit game bro but this Gunster video should help).

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People aren’t stupid, they just will themselves so.

I did.

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Anyhow I’m at a corporate bar and restaurant with a large outdoor area. Venue’s nice enough, scenic.

Shiner Bock (good) Acid Kuba Kuba (great).

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They know that. It’s the world from a woman’s perspective — sex is on tap. Erections are on tap. It is literally NO BIG DEAL to women in a way that almost no (straight) man can comprehend, because most straight men live in a world of scarcity when it comes to sex. No woman does. Blax, I wanted to highlight this part of Nova’s comment for you, because I think it is the crux of the difference between what you are saying, and stuff like “PUA Game” and “looksmaxing” etc. Taking your comments on this forum at face value, seems… Read more »

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Morpheus Hey bro. Just for clarification, my stance isn’t quite ” what’s all the fuss ” type thing. It’s like a guy stranded in the forest, and he desperately needs to build a fire so he can stay warm and cook whatever he can catch, and boil water to drink. But he wastes time looking for specific types of wood to burn. People make fire in the woods all the time, and if it’s crucial, you don’t need to make such a task out of it. Just build the fire already. I rejected the ” natural ” label when Yareally… Read more »

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“Sad to see a man’s life reduced like that, but hey, pedestalizing pussy can never end well. It’s not supposed to. That’s why we cautIon against it to those who will reasonably listen.” This is the crux of the matter, pussy is good, there is no doubt about it, but how you get is very important when it comes to girls. As Blax says sex is no big deal for the girl, when the guy makes it a bigger deal than her and is jumping through hoops to qualify it won’t end well. You have a mismatch of value, she… Read more »

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Guys need to learn from this statement below, women are by and large a large liability when not managed correctly, sometimes a huge one. I don’t know if it was from my dad but somehow I have never viewed them as any kind of prize, even though my mom was an excellent mom very feminine and loving, my dad never treated her as any type of prize. Even though she was excellent cook for him, bore him 4 children, never talked to other men, generally loved the crap out of him he has never treated her as any type of… Read more »

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Foxguy The ” average ” woman understands that men want sex really, really badly, but a majority of them are clueless about what that means because they don’t have lots of testosterone coursing through their veins. They know men like certain things, and they know that they posses the things men seem to want, but even they don’t really see themselves as special, worthy of pedestalizing the way men do. But they’ll take it if you’re willing to give it, and it becomes a bargaining chip. It effects the way they see the average guy. He’s a little weak and… Read more »

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That’s ” dicks are like buses.. ” , not ” sucks ”

Spellchecker refuses to display ” dicks ” and ” males ” whenever I type it.

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“I never bought into the bullshit people said about females”

Except when you did.

A billion lays, 2 kids and 1 divorce.

Don’t pedestalize Blax.

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Pedestalize this bitchez.
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Star fish sex = typical of a LTR within a beta provisioning scenario

Gold digger sex – sex often perceived as horny sex but with the intention of draining a man’s resources

Lust sex = typical of a same night club type pull with woman in a horny state

Support sex – hot sex often perceived as desire sex but with the intention of locking a man into paternity support

Desire sex = passionate sex when male is perceived as alpha seed – the woman will pursue the man in an almost stalking manner

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@Centuries Nice to go off on red pill awareness of unhealthy pathological ways it’s done. There is also LTR healthy ways of doing it. Which is paradoxical here. Lot’s of excellent manosphere content providers frolic in healthy ways of doing it. While acknowledging unhealthy an unhappy person behavior. It’s not such a mystery. It is simple. It is not easy. You want easy. It doesn’t exist for males, unless a male is on easy street by his intrinsic nature. A male can put himself on easy street by trial and error. With confidence and competence. Competence is an outgrowth of… Read more »

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“Lust sex = typical of a same night club type pull with woman in a horny state”

And then after only initate contact when the other is horny. Yeah sounds about right. That type of “stalker pursuit” happens after a girl is hooked on your dick. Which is why blax says desire sex usually doesn’t happen the first night you meet her. Only stalking I’ve had is girls stalking my social media. When I didn’t even give them my last name lol. I figured they just looked through my wallet when I was taking a shit.

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“That type of “stalker pursuit” happens after a girl is hooked on your dick.”

Untrue. Flatly uninformed, overconfident made-up fakery. “Hooked on your dick” as a phrase sounds straight out of a incel forum. j is the height of stupidity clowning around as Professor Love Machine.

I’ve been stalked and it has little to do with sex.

j has swapped his individual conscience long ago for some queer sense of PUA social conscious belonging. Hence all the contrived hipster throw-away lines. He literally can’t think for himself for fear of isolation.

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😂😂😂

Jesus.

Nah, chicks can and do get ” hooked on your dick “.

Imo, if a.man has an eye towards marriage, he’d better consider a ” hooked on your dick ” chick because it will greatly minimize the dead bedroom phenomenon years later. Guys should pay attention.

If you aren’t banging virgins, and you can talk to the chick you’re fucking, you’ll find that there’s a shortage of men that can properly swing a cock. Sometimes chicks resign themselves to making the best of a semi satisfying sex life, until they run across the dick of their dreams, lmao.

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The thing with desire sex is that until you experience it, you can’t understand it. You won’t even know it exists or you’ll label something else as desire sex. It’s just a phrase. It’s kind of a “explain the sun to someone who has never seen it” mental exercise. “It’s like a candle, but hotter and way bigger” doesn’t really cut it. When it does happen to you though, you know. It is unmistakeable – there’s no doubt. All the regular posters here have heard me talk a lot about a toilet BJ I got years ago, early in my… Read more »

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@ Blax

Yes to that though your reply has little to do with stalking. Stalkers are pursuing not the dick but obsessive possession-ownership of another.

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The wheels on the bus go round and round , round and round :). I don’t have any particular disagreement with gaining an understanding of women to have sex with them, but you gotta admit , P in V is just that P in V. When I think about genuine desire it’s not even really mainly about the sex, but rather what it represents, what it means, it means you have achieved a level of high value to yourself and the women can see/feel/smell that, in that instance it’s still the male frame of reference. My main issue with PUA… Read more »

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@Palma

Exactly, hence why women can never be a true anchor to any mans life. The way certain individuals defend PUA with an almost religious like fervor is what leads me to believe it’s an anchor for them, even if they claim it isn’t, the may not be consciously aware they are using it as an anchor to their life.

I will give PUA guys credit in that they realize something is missing in life, most men don’t even get that far. I give them credit for searching for the meaning of life/anchor. it’s just not women unfortunately.

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Culum!!!!!!!!!! Going o/t because something you wrote gave me a flashback, and I like flashbacks. “I assume you know plenty of young boxers who came in to learn so that they could be good at beating people up and over time as they gained skill and maturity, they learned to tone it down? “The best fighters are the ones who are most reluctant to be violent” etc?” True. In fact, I picked up boxing initially because I was such a skinny guy – like starving Ethiopian skinny – and it bothered me every single day. So my solution was to… Read more »

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Get a bit older though, at a stage where you have had plenty of women, then look back and re consider.
Get beyond sex – which is the only thing they can offer..
They’re useless .. That’s enlightenment.
And that’s why older ones can’t consolidate on “commitment”

Hence my eternal question for this board to guys who have LTR’s?

There has to be a point, or you guys aren’t rational.

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Palma / Archie

“Get beyond sex – which is the only thing they can offer..

They’re useless .. That’s enlightenment.

And that’s why older ones can’t consolidate on “commitment””

Hence my eternal question for this board to guys who have LTR’s?

There has to be a point, or you guys aren’t rational.

Well loop back up into that “femininity” discussion upthread. Women who can offer femininity are always in demand and most often get commitment.

There is a male use for femininity, which goes beyond sex. So those women aren’t useless. Just getting more rare.

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“Hence my eternal question for this board to guys who have LTR’s? There has to be a point, or you guys aren’t rational.” Well loop back up into that “femininity” discussion upthread. Women who can offer femininity are always in demand and most often get commitment. There is a male use for femininity, which goes beyond sex. So those women aren’t useless. Just getting more rare. Well said and to the point Sentient. Quite a while ago, Sentient also answered the question “Why would a man get married?” with “to get a wife”. I would affirm that response. My son… Read more »

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“They’re useless .. That’s enlightenment.” “There has to be a point, or you guys aren’t rational.”

Use isn’t value. If a dollar’s today is $.97 tomorrow theoretically it can be zero the next day. Does a dollar have permanent value? Answer is no.

Are women strictly useful and if so, what’s to stop them considering men strictly useful? How does that mentality create sustaining LTR’s?

Could there be something you choose not to consider about others that makes you seem frivolous and sterile and kinda inconsequential?

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Senseless death in three easy steps:

Declare someone useful.

Enslaves them.

Kill them when useless.

Archie, my man, you’re gonna go far kid!

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I see Palma’s point. But this discussion always goes south when trying to explain ” women’s value ” to guys that’ve never seen nor considered it. Not sure if it’s a function of a string of ( or even one ) bad experience, or just never having had a decent relationship with a woman for whatever reason ( couldn’t be the guys. Naaahhhhh…) Palma’s point about the secondhand market sounds more reasonable, especially once one gets past a certain age. But if a guy is 100% satisfied staying single, with babymommas or whatever, then that’s what he should do, while… Read more »

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@ Blax

“lot’s of things I’ve done in life has been relentlessly questioned by those that had no interest or skill to do.”

The peanut gallery is ubiquitous and regenerating.

Give an example, something big, that no one would believe you did on principle and still don’t understand why you did it.

I’m legitimately interested.

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Climbing rose-bushes!

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SJF and EH Lol. My rose bushes are having a very hard time because of the insane amounts of rain. I’ve had to trim and dead-head linear feet out of them. Right now they ain’t looking spectacular. Eh Most of my friends initially don’t understand why I do the things I do. I honestly am a believer that men can do anything they set their minds to. Something big?? Oh man, scribbler would throw a giant fit. Let’s see, something that wala wouldn’t call ” yesterday man-ish “, lol. More recently I grew the meetings we had for young men/youth… Read more »

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… I might have doxed myself.

Oh well.

Lol.

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“… I might have doxed myself.

Oh well.

Lol.”

Take note Archie, j, The Gimp…

Blax has more to gain than lose being known. Ask the same about yourselves, ya fruitless idjits.

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@eh

Aight here’s me

#SelfDox

https://imgur.com/a/UKqONc7

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Eh

Everybody here knows what city I live in, and kinda what I look like already.

I’m joking about being doxed because I’m not hard to find if anyone really wanted to.

The only thing I’d ” lose ” is privacy as I am trying to tie up loose ends and disconnect as I age. I’m trying to hand over the reigns as fast as I can because getting a bit tired. Lol.

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“I’m trying to hand over the reigns as fast as I can because getting a bit tired”

Aging gracefully is not for the weak of heart. Humility to bow out gracefully is for the wise and gracious.

Understanding death early in life is understanding the ability to choose right or wrong or somewhere between and accept one’s responsibility.

I work with prison inmates occasionally. None blame outside forces, have unearned indignancy nor are conspiratorial like a few guys I read here. They aren’t expectant either. They understand that they have a choice.

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Archie,

I’m coming around to your idea.

You ever consider going home and pushing your mother down a flight of steps? Honestly sometimes these fucking dumbass useless bitches don’t know when to die already and give up the $$.

If she doesn’t break her neck first fall feel free to drag her back up (by the hair of course) and toss her down again.

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As usual Eh Intellect is so beyond her depth she has to resort to name calling. I’ll continue to ignore her as everyone else does.

@Sentient – “There is a male use for femininity, which goes beyond sex. So those women aren’t useless. Just getting more rare.”

You’re not really disproving my point here.

If such an important thing can’t be stated simply, how true is it?

That’s telling.

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You’re not really disproving my point here. If such an important thing can’t be stated simply, how true is it? That’s telling. You’re jaded. My wife’s youngest cat: She named Archie. What does that tell you. The answer: Absolutely nothing. You are looking in the wrong place. It’s not a tell. You are making up your own narrative. You are getting ahead of yourself. I know you as a slick, smart guy. I think Sentient is on record with that sentiment too. But for your own sake, don’t burn out on a goal well pursued. Jaded with women (tired, bored,… Read more »

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@Archie – “femininity” (or indeed “masculinity”) cannot be explained or broken down simply.

But both of them can be experienced and understood instantly on an emotional/instinctive level. To me that doesn’t make them invalid in any way (see the discussion about femininity on the last page about Irish women in the music video I posted)

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“Outside of that, why should I sign a contract offering a call option on a load of my shit?” You shouldn’t. I have a buddy that could be a clone of you. He’s also a clone of me. But he deals it jaded-ness. The bitterest of cynics. Former three wives, sister, mom, business partner, hunting partners–always screwed him over, done him wrong. While he is savvy as ever. Just like you, Palma. My judgement is it’s them, not him. And it’s people he can’t dispense with. They hang on him like buggers. I never had that problem of ditching the… Read more »

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@Palmasailor

I’m having flashbacks to the Great Marriage Debate of 2016 – the thing which eventually drove YaReally away from here.

It’s probably one of the only times I disagreed with Ya – after reading all of that in realtime, my main takeaway was that marriage is absolutely worth it (in fact, is basically essential since if you’re an unmarried father you have even fewer rights than a married father) if you want kids. If you don’t want to have kids, then there is much less of an argument for it.

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Culum I don’t like.asparagus. No person could ever ” justify ” to me why they happen to like asparagus because my experience with it has been horrible. Or I’m always asked why do I buy my cars outright instead of just leasing them? Answer: leasing doesn’t fit my purpose ( limited mileage at a penalty for going beyond ). Plus, I think leases are a ripoff. No matter how many people have tried to explain the benefits of leasing over buying, my mind remains unchanged because it’s not what I want. There’s nothing anyone can do to satisfactorily explain something… Read more »

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Errol Flynn’s worst fear came to pass; he died with unspent money in his pocket. He had always said that if you died with as much as ten dollars (a hundred dollars in today’s paper crap) you had screwed up.

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@WIA “Hence my eternal question for this board to guys who have LTR’s? There has to be a point, or you guys aren’t rational.” “If such an important thing can’t be stated simply, how true is it?” who else will you get to break you out of jail?… or drive the getaway car…lol [can’t find that link…lol] not MY thing… but some dudes like it… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tVzZ5P_q2XQ lol… on a more serious note… can you have ANY yang if you don’t have a solid yin?… more feminine allows you to be more masculine… just part of your design specs… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang my… Read more »

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Palma The crux of the debate was – YaReally wanted ” ideas ” about how to have children, not marry ( because no benefit), still go out and pick up women for sex, while avoiding child support and ” the system “. He couldn’t/wouldn’t grasp that once you have a child, technically you cannot 100% avoid the system if shit goes bad. So he was gonna have a kid, live with mom and child, and hit the field regularly for snl’s. What could possibly go wrong? I liked ya a lot, but all he managed to do during that debate,… Read more »

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Living with a woman on good terms without sky falling on your head seems inconceivable. My wife may shit test every now and then, and her mood swings may cause chronic eye rolling lol, but the moment I need something, she’s there. I’ve never had her wishing bad for me, even in the worst arguments. I’m nowhere near the critical mass of a guard dog situ though. We got close to growing apart, probably similar to Blax’s situ, but I found Rollo early enough to figure out what was happening and undo the bluepill conditioning damage. [Someone should write a… Read more »

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Hey all thought I should give a quick update of how things are going for me in the field. I am in the early stages of spinning some plates. I have a handful of girls that are interested in me I would say and I have built some attraction in them. I am doing a really good job of keeping frame honestly and that is what I am most proud about because compare that to where I was 1-2 months ago with my ex it is really night and day. I am becoming a better conversationalist with convo threading and… Read more »

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Sentient and Having A Bad Day and Others I wanted to update everyone. My kids have joined their new school and it has been a complete anti-climax. The teacher I was talking to on that dating site does not appear to teach them, and no one seems to suspect anything so I was worrying about nothing as everyone here predicted. It is still a relief though. It will be interesting if I ever do run into that teacher at a school event. On another note there was an interesting interaction with my wife a few days ago. I came home… Read more »

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