For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
That was 2 minutes of my life wasted getting the barman to make one for the sole purpose of getting IAS laid and it’s been for nothing.
The story of most PUA’s lives…nothing to show for all their effort.
Palma If one woman is rolling round laughing then the others wonder why and want a bit. So true. This kind of interest can also be accomplished with just men. You and a wing can be having a good time, laughing, interacting etc. and it will pique interest among girls. Any display of dynamism and passion is good. It builds social proof. Another reason to game repeatedly in the same venues… You come in and the doormen, managers, waitstaff, regulars all approaching you saying hey, you shoot the shit, clap them on the back, receive hugs, high fives etc… The… Read more »
@Palma, Sentient: thanks, I appreciate the effort from you guys.
Tactical question. If any of the girls I meet abroad show interesting in coming to visit, should I offer accommodation at my place? I can see pros and cons, best case scenario is very enticing, but I can also imagine bad cases arising from it.
IAS
Your place? The one you share with your wife?
Not a fan. She should be willing to get her own place to stay to come see you, and you can go there. Or bounce her back to your AIRBNB or hotel.
Girls act strange when in another woman’s home.
@Palma and Sentient: thanks. Pretty much what I was thinking but you articulated it a bit further. I did explicitly think of the “Goldmund” scenario (but I actually didn’t remember that I had read it from that Goldmund piece, because I sure would NOT pay for the trip). Re: offering the place to a guy, I actually would and did a few times (but the girls don’t necessarily know that I would). Re: sabotaging marriage on purpose / wanting to get caught: I’m not sure yet. Sentient has wondered about it in the past. That was one of the cons.… Read more »
Mini-FR: back in my city, same hobby. Possible targets: the girl that is from the place I visited recently, another foreigner girl exchange student. I had number closed them both previously. They both showed up. Fast forward to end of session, girl from place I visited tells me she is leaving this week, and it is for good. Internally I’m like “Fuck, not enough time”. Externally I go “Sweaty hug!” give her a good tight hug. Longer than “normal”. Fine. I probe logistics she is walking to her hostel. I consider walking her (probably should have). They chat a bit… Read more »
IAS
Too much emotional investment in these social circle girls. Scarcity mindset is a result. still you are learning.
Have you quit doing cold approach? You should go back to that to accelerate your learning.
“I know I don’t have much time as it is only until the subway station.”
Why? Why didn’t you just lead her on an instadate instead of waiting for her train…? You started off leading right?
Spike! then lead on the high…
@Sentient: fair comment on the cold approach, I should do more of that. I still do occasionally but I haven’t been clubbing. You and Palma with the recent FRs help motivate, but I should motivate internally by myself.
About the instadate: It occurred and I floated the idea, but a bit half-heartedly. I was quite badly dressed for anything other than sports, and we were both carrying large volume of gear on backpacks.
@IAS “I probe logistics she is walking to her hostel. I consider walking her (probably should have)”. in hindsight its probably better you didn’t go with this option. Would have sucked to walk her all the way to her hostel, just to find out they have a “no unregistered guest” policy and you can’t come in lol. “Hug goodbye. We detach. She comes in for another hug” “just go to her platform instead of mine as if it was normal. Then if she asks about why I’m going her way I could say I want to escort her home or… Read more »
Palma
Now put your transcript through the IOD/IOI loop model…
Note the IOD, the IOS, the compliance/qualification tests… Your rewarding… Etc.
Flows perfectly in MM way.
And you hooked into Poon Commandment IX
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/
Which is good. But the structure is better. The structure of the IOD/IOI loop overrides everything.
Again… This is all real good. “IX. Connect with her emotions Set yourself apart from other men and connect with a woman’s emotional landscape. Her mind is an alien world that requires deft navigation to reach your rendevous. Frolic in the surf of emotions rather than the arid desert of logic. Be playful. Employ all your senses. Describe in lush detail scenarios to set her heart afire. Give your feelings freedom to roam. ROAM. Yes, that is a good word. You’re not on a linear path with her. You are ROAMING all over, taking her on an adventure. In this… Read more »
Last night I went to my new country bar…danced some line dances…one girl came up and introduced herself to me afterwards…said she was with her bf…told me where she works…lol… I flirted with a waitress who said that she wished she was allowed to dance with customers…very attentive and looking for a fantasy trip… …but the bar was pretty dead, so I went to my favorite…parking lot was packed…a couple of staff asked me where I’d been…resorted to reasonable excuses… …I hung out with a very cool older guy…we danced with the same girl…he dared me to ask a “very… Read more »
Palma
You may want to look into “eliciting values”, “The Cube”, “Strawberry fields” etc… All these kinds of things get you to the same place.
Well, here i am, back in FR’s, but just as perplexed and pissed off as i have been during this whole shitty year. So i pulled a young hippy babe (27), a quarter of a century my junior at a recent festival i was performing at, she slept in my tent first nite and we just kissed and played around, then we fucked bareback the next nite & morning. Good vibes all ’round. We both had separate ways to go after festival with a plan to meet up post Xmas. Lots of good hot, playful sexting whilst she was on… Read more »
@fox pulled a young hippy babe (27) festival slept in my tent first nite fucked bareback the next nite & morning. Lots of good hot, playful sexting yoga retreat i feel she’s not just another skanky ho. “Very low-key, wholesome social media presence”. lol. Don’t be fooled by what a chicks’ Facebook page looks like. She’s “friends” with her relatives, work/potential colleagues, etc. she not gonna slut it up on there (unless she retarded): https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=low%20key%20slut “this shit still just fucks me up emotionally”. Mate. stop getting all worked up for some random hippie slut. This is straight up embarrassing. GFTOW.… Read more »
Seriously Fox.
Do NOT text her. Let her contact you.
And she probably won’t…
So?
You fucked a festival girl out for a good time…
It is what it is. It’s just your epic scarcity that’s coloring your view… Don’t get all feelzy ffs…
Cheers gentlemen. I hear you. It’s a hard bitch to swallow, once again… But now at least i’m back in the game, and summer is just kicking in…
@ Sentient
‘It is what it is. It’s just your epic scarcity that’s coloring your view… Don’t get all feelzy ffs…’
I very much agree that my current epic scarcity is colouring my view. ‘Scar-city’, hey? Scar city…
Hey guys, just dropping in quickly to say Hi. Mostly been away (I still read the main posts and scan the comments quickly) for a few weeks. Partly been working, and was sick for a couple weeks, and finally have gotten serious and made a habit of working out and prioritized it (along with diet) in the last month or two. Starting to show real results and feel like a habit now (and feel good). Especially the combination of getting diet pretty dialed in and hitting exercise rhythm at the same time (I feel hungry ALL the time – and… Read more »
@Everyone: Happy holidays!
culum Good to hear your health is going well. Best of luck to you. On this literally keeps giving me a DDB look and smiling every time I go in and today was engaging me in conversation and smiling. ummm… Go back there… spike [naughty or nice?] and ask for her number. Just do it for the reference experience. she is there you are there… get unstuck… On the sex thing, don’t let this become a buffer… Fuck her mind… that is the payoff… especially in SNL context. They are so worked up from the seduction you don’t need to… Read more »
@Culum Sentient culum Good to hear your health is going well. Best of luck to you. On this “literally keeps giving me a DDB look and smiling every time I go in and today was engaging me in conversation and smiling.” ummm… Go back there… spike [naughty or nice?] and ask for her number. Just do it for the reference experience. she is there you are there… get unstuck… On the sex thing, don’t let this become a buffer… Fuck her mind… that is the payoff… especially in SNL context. They are so worked up from the seduction you don’t… Read more »
Hello Sentient and Having A Bad Day and others End of year update and question We have moved back on a trial basis to the city where the children were born and generally everyone is much happier which makes the overall environment so much better. Wife keeps thanking me for making the move happen and says she knows I am under a lot of pressure to make it work financially after the move etc. More sex in December than rest of 2018 combined (although it is more like 7 months together since either wife or I were travelling on work… Read more »
@TheMarquis: this is a good exercise for me so I’ll dive in. First impression: you care too much (hence the lengthy, detailed description). Go more into your own MPoO. “Also, she is much more frequent in thanking me for making the move happen and keeps saying I’m the only man she’s ever trusted and I am the only man who makes her feel safe and no other man has ever made her feel safe. I think this is also good but also partly kind of an instinctive play to make me feel guilty just in case I was cheating.” Shitty… Read more »
Thanks Sentient and HABD. Was back in the new coffee shop today. Usual DDB eyes barista girl wasn’t there but the other one (slightly cuter) recognized me and served me with locked on lingering eye contact – just long enough for me to know it was not accidental. As for the rest, I feel better and not just physically. I appreciate I can’t turn this into an excuse not to take action, but it actually feels really good to be in the Big City and “live my life” and not have that constant pressure of “Why am I not going… Read more »
Sperg Field Report
Lol, I totally missed a DTF signal from a girl last night. Last call as I was leaving, a late forties woman (smoker-yuk) whom I know saw me as she was returning from another bar. Came in close and pressed her tits against me as we chatted and held my lower back. Well, at least I set the tone for New Year’s Eve when I asked her if she’d be back then.
Lol at my autism.
Marquis Happy New Year… “But there are still lots of frame battles especially because I engage with her logically and start arguing much more than I should – not necessarily supplicating but more arguing when I shouldn’t. Also occasionally Qualifying to her.” Stop doing this^^^… This is why you get frame battles, because sometimes she wins… It’s the random pellet so she keeps hitting the lever. You want capitulation. You are close… Keep up the dread. More A@A… Less logical discussion. Great work with the coworker with the crush… On the dinner situation… You don’t want to mollify her… You… Read more »
Oh amd on the parenting stuff… There Will be times you will have to put your foot down and stand your ground. “My way or the highway” style. She Will fight ferociously… Stand your ground.
And never agree to censor your speech or actions… Fuck that. Next time she wants to hang with those folks just tell her “nah” they are boring… Etc.
Oh and remember Athol was Purple Pill… He pulled lots of punches so as not to piss off his large female base.
Culum
“It’s a much better base from which to take action and connect and engage.”
Great!
So ughhh… How is the taking action and connecting and engaging going???
Sentient to Marquis This is why you get frame battles, because sometimes she wins… Marquis, you are in the process of retraining your own behavior and hers. When you backslide and qualify to her, you not only set your own retraining backwards, you also as Sentient pointed out set her retraining back also. If you persist in these behaviours it will take longer to get her settled down. It may even aggravate her contentiousness, because sometimes she gets what her hindbrain wants and sometimes she gets what her rebellious forebrain wants, and it can make her very irrational. Extreme worst… Read more »
Sentient
Erm.
shuffles feet
I’m gonna do HABD’s 400 Challenge Round 2 this month (the revised version). I’m working (and working out) a lot so I can’t do it in a few days like I did the last time, but I’ll do it over the next few weeks and build from there.
Culum
Look man don’t overcomplicate things… Round 2 400 Open Challenge is Just Blitz Week in disguise…
Just ACT in the moment… As you are living your life, going about being the Alpha stud you are… When you see that girl you want to talk to…
OPEN YOUR MOUTH!
That’s it. Your training will kick in from there.
Remember the frame of Bobby Judge – you are just “testing the truth of the situation”… No big deal, no risk. No takers? So what? Move on. A spark? Well then fan that flame.
Culum
Once more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Tg__kFrus
23:58
Culum Why is it important to “test the truth”? reference experience. You need to build up reference experiences. Social circle FR, demonstrating reference experience… So NYE we go around to a bunch of house parties, cocktail things. Neighborhood stuff. went to one with the wife and this other couple is there. Met them a few times but briefly. They are 10 or more years younger and live on the fringe of our area so never really see them. Woman is attractive but starting to hit the wall, thickening in the middle. Guy is tall, good looking, like Kevin Costner and… Read more »
@The Marquis looks like you are still fighting the good fight!… props on that!!! Hello Sentient and Having A Bad Day and others End of year update and question We have moved back on a trial basis to the city where the children were born and generally everyone is much happier which makes the overall environment so much better. Wife keeps thanking me for making the move happen and says she knows I am under a lot of pressure to make it work financially after the move etc. these are wins… More sex in December than rest of 2018 combined… Read more »
@Culum
Thanks Sentient and HABD.
Was back in the new coffee shop today. Usual DDB eyes barista girl wasn’t there but the other one (slightly cuter) recognized me and served me with locked on lingering eye contact – just long enough for me to know it was not accidental.
and?…
where is THAT field report?…
good luck!
@Sentient Great FR “He mentions he started his own business a few months back.. so we talk about that… she buts in that she is the “chief marketing officer” I ask her if she has a card with that fancy title on it, she say no. I say to him, well you need to fire her then, if she is CMO and you don’t have any cards. she gets a little chuffed at this. i ask him the name of the firm, she chimes in she wanted to name it something else. I say what… she rattles off a few… Read more »
J “A bit of qualifying from you here. ” Let me amplify. This wasn’t about me per se. Or seduction. It really was about laying down some life lessons for those kids. There is a place for the smirk or shrug, but you have to be aware of a) overgaming and b) the raw power of connecting on a deeper level. Like here after I called her out on her position by saying it was the fourth option she was like… Yeah. Damn. And lights going off that she was a total fuck up as a parent. If you have… Read more »
@Sentient “It really was about laying down some life lessons for those kids”. yeah I get that. You demonstrated that early by talking about boundaries and consequences. What I’m talking about, is the shit test she threw at you: “Now she is all indignant “I new you where on of those guys” “the raw power of connecting on a deeper level”. We all know there are correct ways of responding to shit tests, whether it be outright dismissing it or by A@A, but another way (in the right context) is by having what I like to call, “a moment of… Read more »
J
“what I like to call, “a moment of real” (even tho that “real moment” is calculated). Which is what I think you did here.”
Well… there is real, then there is the realistically faked.
It’s OK to have some “real real” J… That authenticity yo. Very powerful.
Speaking of AMOGing… funny old story from Tyler… Out-alpha’ing guys is a fast way to convey value. It’s like stereotypical male fantasy of wishing that they could slay the dragon or save a girl from harm. Why is that? It’s because they may have balls of steel, but they don’t know how to CONVEY it fast. This sort of thing helps you to do that. Also, it’s so important to have this stuff down in clubs, because there are always guys trying to lower your status to elevate theirs. So being savvy of the subcommunication that’s going on in between… Read more »
Still tightening things up.
Fucken wpDiscuz doesn’t have an option for a comment field that’s positioned at the bottom of the page. What kind of stupidity is that?
@Rollo: this one is sleek. Although for me the best change was the previous one that made navigating to the last comment so much easier!
Thanks for the great content and happy 2019.
I have some hope I might thank you in person in Poland.
Rollo – well on too many pages there is no link to recent posts… And on a mobile, the layout isn’t good. Maybe try adding Recent Posts to the menu.
Sentient, HABD – I’m on the job.
For online dating game, peak desirability is 18 for women, 50 for men.
http://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html
Oh Jesus.
Dating apps again.
Frame. Stay the fuck out of women’s frames.
Math DR
For online dating game…
We can be sure that no writers at the NY Times would ever be gynocentric or peddle blue pills. Nope .Never happen.
Hey guys! Need your input on this. I have in the past committed this mistake several times and hence now want to analyze this and weed it out of my Game once and for all. I met a girl, first date went great lasted 9 hours was very unplanned and spontaneous since we were both on holiday and free. First date consisted of walking around a park, then getting a few drinks, climbing up a hill in our town at night while drinking, a lot of kissing on top of the hill and then grabbing some food. As the date… Read more »
Trying to have sex with a woman in her frame can be frustrating.
Do you have any plates now? A saucer?
Do you see where she worked you! Converted you?
Under her terms.
@Blaximus
I don’t understand what you mean? I know she now redefined the context. But I used to not allow that before and what happened was the girls never replied or met me again. Whereas here I like the girl and I don’t mind taking it a little slow with her as I have other dates with other women lined up.
I am sure if I had pushed this, she would have not met me again. But I want to continue this with her.
Can you tell me what you would suggest I do?
@student
Do you have any plates now? A saucer?
Blax is asking if you have any Preselection working for you. Hint: this is probably the #1 thing in game.
Do you see where she worked you! Converted you?
Blax is saying that you need to look at your own field report and figure out where you lost frame.
</Blaxtranslater off>
Student So you’re giving off strong boyfriend vibes, and she’s assuming control with your blessings as you chase. Now the plate potential has eroded greatly, and the potential drama quotient has risen substantially. It’s decision time. You say You like her? Well, okay then, but you must get out of her frame and retake control and guide this where you want it to go, under your rules, in your timetable. But I’d say this much: don’t straddle the fence. Either you want girlfriend, or you want plates. They aren’t the same thing. She’s put the brakes on and is trying… Read more »
@studentofgame – it’s “Anti Slut Defence” or “ASD”, not “Buyer’s Remorse”, but otherwise your friend’s analysis is basically correct (you get Buyer’s Remorse when she sleeps with you quickly and then later regrets it for some reason – you get ASD when you get her so turned and go so far the first time you see her without sealing the deal that she knows the next time she sees you it will be for sex – there’s no doubt or ambiguity, so then she feels like a slut for meeting a guy “just for sex” (not logical I know but… Read more »
@ Theasdgamer Blaximus and Culum Struan First of all thanks a ton for your comments and advice. Yes, I do understand that I have lost the frame to her as of now. She basically was overwhelmed with the pace at which we proceeded and as Culum pointed out she expected that I would next invite her over to my house. But now that I took a step back and said coffee in a public space she wants to meet again and said she wanted to show me a favorite cafe of hers. What I am confident about is her following… Read more »
@studentofthegame Good work on your improvement and better results. Your plan for this girl is fine – meet her and slowly escalate on the sexual tension. Just remember to make sure the coffee date venue is convenient for your place (ideally walking distance) so that you can easily move there (or if you’re going to more than one place, the last place is convenient for your place). Also make sure you “seed the pull” – give her some plausible reason for going to your place so that she can at least pretend to herself you’re not going there for sex.… Read more »
@Culum Thanks a lot for the response. The one impediment I might face is that since I have already caused a lot of ASD she might be really weary when she meets me next. She has said she is going to show me one of her favorite cafes which I am pretty sure is not on the side of town I live in as she has mentioned it before. I am reluctant to now change the date location as I am in a precarious position with her ASD being high and everything. But I am confident I can change her… Read more »
Student
Going forward, it’s generally a good idea to reject any meet at a venue she chose. You want the territory working for you, not her.
@Student “She has said she is going to show me one of her favorite cafes which I am pretty sure is not on the side of town I live in as she has mentioned it before. I am reluctant to now change the date location as I am in a precarious position with her ASD being high and everything” Cancel the date. Tell her you lost your phone the day, after you were guys were suppose to meet up (meaning complete radio silence from you, the day ya’ll were suppose to meet), then tell her you feel bad and you’ll… Read more »
Thanks a ton for the hard hitting advice here guys. I realized what I did wrong and I think I am just investing too much into this girl. Going to forget about her for now and concentrate on other girls I am going to be meeting.
I feel now reflecting back on my behavior, I haven’t killed the Beta in me fully. It rears its ugly head whenever I get close to sex with a girl but don’t actually get it, I loose frame, act needy and start chasing the girl.
@studentofthegame – good self-analysis and understanding of yourself. You should certainly invest less in each girl and have more of an abundance mentality. That said, there’s no need to forget about this girl. Even if you don’t sleep with her, it’s good to try turning the situation around for practice – even if it doesn’t work you will learn something. Why not try @j’s tactic? It’s high risk/high reward, but if it works you will be in a good position. Or you could go on the planned date with her and try to lay her in a car or the… Read more »
Palma – are you sticking to your age group? Tinder/Bumble or going further afield with the sites?
Culum
Resist!
Sentient – Hahaha, you read my mind! I do shit online anyway – I don’t have the looks for it (except for sugar sites where I do well because I learned to game the system). Either that or the marriage+kids provider seekers close to my age..
@Culum, Palma and Sentient: I loved and LOLed at Sentient’s short and to the point “Resist!”
@Culum Struan Yes, exactly. I wanted to just see if I can turn it around just for the experience. But yesterday when I texted her about the coffee date, she wasn’t really enthused about it and said she did not have time this week and that next week would be better etc. Now, I think I have lost too much Frame and me hitting her up again next week would just ooze neediness. So I have decided to only try to set up a date if she gets in touch with me by herself. And does someone have YaReally’s work… Read more »
Student
https://seduction4life.net/the-book-of-yareally-pdf-mobi-epub/
@studentofgame You can read it here on the Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20170818153612/http://www.yareallyarchive.com:80/ It’s slow, but it’s the complete, up to date Archive. It’s basically a compilation of posts and comments by YaReally over 5 years on the Heartiste blog and here on TRM, so you may see some of the same names you see here now discussing things with him. There is also a PDF version floating around (which may not be as complete, but is a lot easier and faster to read). I suggest you go to Reddit and ask on the “yareally” sub – someone will have it (I… Read more »
Or this
http://www.mediafire.com/view/v97p3rhw9hanot2/Book_of_YaReally.pdf
Wow! Thanks guys. I just read a FR Yareally breaks down. It is so similar to my situation. I understand so much more just by that one read. I see what happened with this girl in a whole different light now. I wasn’t congruent. When I met her and the two days we ended up making out and fooling around, I was the cool guy living life in the moment and having fun.During the second day, when we were making out and having fun in the thermal bath and she was telling me how she is going to be so… Read more »
@Student
“when I texted her about the coffee date, she wasn’t really enthused about it”
Can you screenshot the texts and then upload them on imgur so we can see the convo?
student
Would love to have your thoughts. I might have lost this girl, but I don’t want to make this mistake again.
OK. don’t do that again…
Beyond that, are you a student of game? Have you read Mystery Method? Do you understand the A-C-S model?
@ J I deleted the thread as I did not want it to to be on top of my inbox as I would be tempted to text her or send her a joke or something again and I did not want to end up doing that. My neediness sometimes gets the better of me when I am free and sitting by myself. But here is what she said I will try and write it down as exactly as I remember: Me: “Hey! I get done with my exam tomorrow. Lets grab coffee! How about Friday? I guess you get off… Read more »
Student
Sounds about right… “Natural” game stuff works I til it doesn’t. Mystery Method – which is what Yareally and RSD are steeped in – fills in the gaps and allows for consistency.
That text was painfully happy puppy wagging tail…
When you say you are in Central Europe and you are an Asian what do you mean? Oriental?
@Student “Me: “Hey! I get done with my exam tomorrow. Lets grab coffee! How about Friday? I guess you get off work early on Friday right?”” Your mistake was sending the offer right off the bat. Which signals neediness. Rookie mistake we’ve all done it. What you want to do instead, is build up to it by first, establishing basic rapport and spiking her emotions. Then at a high point, make the offer. Like in sales. You don’t go right into the sales pitch right away, cause your target, is most likely gonna say no even if they kind of… Read more »
Student
You might want to watch this before reading.
@Sentient
I am India. Thanks for the link. I am going to watch the video now.
@j
Ahh. I make that mistake all the time, I think I picked it up when I was learning that it is better not to chit chat too much via text or something. But it is beautifully explained here, a little spike is needed before I ask them out. I just wrote that down so that I never make that mistake again.
@Palma – lol. I’ve seen a lot online profiles like that. I used to hang out on swingers websites (and clubs) years ago and those are even worse because the supply/demand curve is even more skewed – all the aggressive, unpleasant (and proud of it) fat 50 year olds specifying “only men with six packs and 10 inch cocks” or whatever. It’s kind of like the loser guy who goes on a sugar daddy site and says “I have a lot of money to spoil the right girl with..but I will only consider under 22 year old Playboy model equivalents”… Read more »
Hahaha at “asset bubble territory”
I did the swinger club scene both as a single guy and with various FWBs. It was hilarious:
Going as a single man = pariah
Going with various average 30+ HB6s = member of the club
Going with my 19 year old redhead FWB (still the best sexual chemistry I’ve had anyone ever, although she didn’t like the swinger scene) = rock star
Palma That online screed… lol… You:Hey!!!! It’s nice to meet someone who is not shallow! Her: [whatever] You: So you are very pretty, but I need someone who is smart too… Tell me about that? Her:[whatever] You: Are you good at math? Her:[whatever] You: Do you know how many feet are in a mile? Her:[Siri – how many feet are in a mile?] You:Do you know the average cock is 6 inches??? Her:[whatever] You: So how many miles of cock would you say you’ve run through, or run through you I mean? Her:[Siri – what is 6 inches times 60,… Read more »
Dear Everyone who replied – thank you for the comments. I’ve been pondering them for a few days. I think the main takeaway is that I need to be a lot more consistent. The good stuff is good, the bad stuff I’m doing is bad, and most of the time I seem to be able to figure out which is which for myself. So I need to focus more on just doing the good stuff. But there has actually been quite a lot of improvement since I started posting here a couple of years ago, first in patches, and now… Read more »
Marquis You got this… Glad to hear of all the progress and you are getting it… Had to laugh at this She sat me down a few days ago and said she’d realised that I was actually getting more selfish and self-centred as I got older, and I used to be a lot more “emotionally sensitive” when we first met over a decade ago and I’m not the man I was then. I wrote this in 2015… 5. and the coup de grace, when she wants to have a BIG TALK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP and she says “I don’t like… Read more »
Playas / CULUM
“no man has ever made me come like that before”.
Listen up… Do you think Marquis learned some awesome new “techniques” in the last few months? That he hadn’t done in the last 10 years…???
FUCK HER MIND, and her body will follow. Biggest sex organ between her ears. Spike ^-^-^ the emotions… Be unpredictable… and be WANTED by other women. [DREAD is an aphrodisiac…]
All better than another inch on your cocka…
What’s her game? I’d like to get some opinions on a Black Swan event. I was walking out of Panera’s in the entryway. There was a woman there and she was avoiding eye contact, so I looked past her as if she was invisible. She opens me as I open the door. I look back at her and she is smiling a big, friendly smile as she lays out her spiel (German for “play” or “game”) in a high energy way. The woman is early-30s and quite lovely and olive complected as if Greek or Italian. The woman has locked… Read more »
” Biggest sex organ between her ears “
TRUTH.
” All better than another inch on your cocka…”
Ummm…well if you can manage it, go for it.
another inch?
…reminds me of White Goodman meeting Kate in his office…inflating his pants…
Blax
http://blog.heartland.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Austin-Powers-Penis-Pump.jpg
Not my bag, baby… If others want to do it and report back? Field is king!
@TheMarquis I’ve been through a lot of the waters you are going through. “-She sat me down a few days ago and said she’d realised that I was actually getting more selfish and self-centred as I got older, and I used to be a lot more “emotionally sensitive” when we first met over a decade ago and I’m not the man I was then. This is actually true I suppose, as I am now prioritising myself in a way I didn’t then. I just basically said something like “I am who I am”. A few days before that, I said… Read more »
@Sentient @j @blaximus @culum struan Thanks for all the advice on here. I just watched the Mystery Method video that you sent me. It had amazing insight and I am now rereading the Mystery Method thoroughly. As I mentioned before as I got into Game just a couple of years ago, the routine based Old school pickup was always made fun of by the “Natural” and “Direct” Game guys and I fell into that way of thinking. Without having any solid structure I have been practising Game and it has got me sporadic results, a few lays here and there.… Read more »
Student Look at this chart. Is it daygame or night game? Do not fall into the trap of thinking that “routines” are the game, when the STRUCTURE is the game… Routines are just Demonstrations of High Value that have been used before. Aspie nerds learning PUA fixate on the word routine and miss the lesson… “Naturals” use “routines” all the time… whenever you have a story or joke or something you have told before, that is effectivly a routine… A “Natural” telling a girl about his crazy ex GF is just telling a girl story about his crazy ex GF.… Read more »
Student Student:… sits in park at lunch next to girl… plane passes overhead… points to plane and asks girl “man, some days it would be nice to just be on one of those huh?” … Girl responds: [doesn’t matter what] Student: wonder where it is going? If you could be on that plane where would you go? Girl responds: [doesn’t matter what] Student: Man I would go to [XYZ Cool place] again. I was there last summer for two weeks with my ex girlfriend… well she is my ex now because she got really jealous one night at the end… Read more »
“POOF”
looks like i lost a comment…
since that test went through… here’s the short version of the one that ‘poofed’…
Sentient to TheMarquis
+1…
Sentient to Studentofthegame
+1…
SJF to TheMarquis
+1…
that was easy peasy…lol
good luck!
“Learn solid game – Attraction – Comfort – Seduction… IOI’s IOD’s, DHV’s, Compliance. Instigate Isolate Escalate… etc etc etc…”
What?
Can’t we just skip a lot of steps in our Hero’s Journey?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey
@Sentient You are right, it is harder for a brown guy like me, to run Game in CE but at the same time, there are certain section of the girls here, who are fascinated with eastern culture and tradition and stuff like yoga or are bored with dating CU guys want to taste something different. So I don’t want to use my situation as an excuse for anything. But I think a lot of my odds can be improved if I locate areas which women who are looking to meet foreigners frequent. I am working on that. And yes, you… Read more »
This is a FR of an indirect daygame approach I did a few days ago. I am standing at a street corner trying to decide which street would be more target rich for daygame at this time of the day. I see a woman with a nice figure walk by, she seemed clearly older than me, I don’t catch much of her face, but I see she has a fit body and nice legs. I walk behind her and she stops at a pelican crossing. I walk up and stand beside her and look at her and open with: Me:… Read more »
Student
I realize now after watching the Mystery Method video and from the book that I am now rereading. That I did not do much of attraction and it fell very quickly into rapport.
Good. yeah you just freindzoned yourself, maybe signed up for BJJ lessons… lol. and your idea of DHV story is not Mystery’s idea.
See how the little blurb I wrote upthread about the park is different and gives you hooks into making it man to woman?
But you seem to have good social, verbal skills, so you should make progress if you try.