For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@Blaximus, Sentient: LOL at start there, good tip. What makes it difficult for me is not spotting the hole when I’m looking at it, but 1. aiming the tip when I’m not looking at it 2. to get the shaft in there the right angle is usually needed Part 1. is much easier with fingers, although in this case it was my not fully erect cock that actually got in there… Part 2. can be really easy sometimes, but I’ve had trouble with it a few times, and then it depends on the position you are doing. I guess I… Read more »
@IAS, thanks for the 5×5 idea, I will implement it combined with some 8-10km runs. @newlyaloof, I’ve been guilty of wearing ill-fitting shirts (not always easy to buy), so thanks for the tip. I just want to get rid of the belly bulge before I get started with custom made stuff. Apparently you can get even jeans made to perfect measure after a laser 3D scan of your legs and lower body. @palmasailor, it’s getting a lot better. The advice and support I got from you and the other guys here really helped, I cannot thank you enough. I will… Read more »
@newlyaloof
holy hell, I’ve had exactly the same experience as Dave from Hawaii in Roissy’s article. Great stuff and this boosts my resolve. Had to bookmark it for future reading.
Thank you
IAS
Lol.
“1. aiming the tip when I’m not looking at it
2. to get the shaft in there the right angle is usually needed”
1. If you are on top, it’s lower than you think.
2. Rotate her hips forward… Ger her knees up, not out.
Many girls have no idea what they are doing, just lay there and spread. You need to rotate those hips if she isn’t.
” angles ” will become very important…. Later on. Angles can hasten orgasm ( hopefully just for her ) and heighten pleasure. Remember, your not actually trying to ream out a hole here. Most of the sensitive nerves ring the opening of the vagina, and mayber the first inch or so. When you’re balls deep, what she feels inside is pressure, and that pressure is usually very pleasant ( unless you have a 13 inch cock ), so hell yeah, change up the angles, vary pressures, vary depths ( stimulate the more sensitive, shallower nerves ), learn to ” roll… Read more »
@ IAS I forgot to add re: finding the hole without seeing it. The pic of the different kinds of pussies Sentient posted is great. One can never be sure what’s inside those panties. I like to do a magic trick where I insert myself without using my hands at all ( hands doing other shit..gathering up her hair for the epic pulling to come. Tweaking nipples. Gripping shoulders in case she tries to run…). But yeah, sometimes you cum across the ” keyhole pussy ” chick, or the impossibly tight pussy chick. Not a problem. Take the head of… Read more »
A couple trips downtown with good lighting will clear up vagina A&P questions.
“women do not make OVERT attempts at escalating, they hint and hint and hint, opening themselves up to the opportunity for you to make the move; but they never commit to any final concrete action, that’s YOUR job. As the man, it is YOUR responsibility to escalate. I didn’t. I didn’t even understand why she was doing or saying these things. I thought she was just kind of eccentric and weird. Fucking idiot. Eventually she went home, I walked her to the bus stop. The atmosphere was really weird, she seemed quite angry, or disappointed. I didn’t understand why.” https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7oquc9/fr_my_worst_fuckups/… Read more »
Can so many things in life actually not be understood?
@blax “Can so many things in life actually not be understood?” Hey man you’d be surprised, What I’ve realized (I know it’s kind of obvious) through my wing, is that knowing something and understanding it on a logical level is different than internalizing it. He gets really pissed off when I explain shit to him in a 101 kind of way (I unfortunately can not explain things as well as YaReally could) because he knows what to do, but doesn’t do it in the moment. He still needs to be consciously thinking about this stuff, while I am gaming with… Read more »
@Sentient
Blackdragon’s new post, “cougar game for younger guys” kind of explains why I’m shit with these over 33 year old types.
some quotes:
“Over-33 women, cougars included, tend to be Dominants, and Dominants don’t like confident Alpha Males (those women are offended by these kinds of men).”
“A good-looking younger guy who clearly has no money, dresses like it, who is fun to talk to, and doesn’t come off like a player douchebag will absolutely clean up with cougars.”
alas it looks like I’m just gonna have to stick with the 20 – 29 year old girls 🙁
@IAS “@SJF: also want to thank you again. Your assistance many months ago with that freakout I had was at a crucial point, and is still paying off in mental fortitude for new reference experiences I’m gathering.” If we can review for a second what I helped you with: Your freak out fears were unfounded. Your fears of proceeding forward will get you if you let them. Act as if you’ve done this before and went through it. And be done with it and move forward with authority. Proceed as if you know what you are doing. Because you do.… Read more »
@IAS I just got me to thinking as I lay down to bed with my earbud playlist… If I were your red pill uncle, I’d tell you a thing or two about yourself. Not to out you about your un-emotionalness, but just to have you be more like a rock. Listen to this emotional song about being strong. Read the lyrics. Proceed as you feel appropriate. But feel it. Really feel it. Without being unemotional. See the cognitive dissonance and the paradox going on here. Like a rock is not unemotional. It is simply being like a rock to to… Read more »
Earlier tonight my wife and I were watching TV. The Batchelor TV show was puke worthy. When it came to an inflection point when a girl was called on the phone and was informed that her grandfather died and it was like a: what the fuck should she do? Lol. Any one knows what she should do and it is not drama laden. You just leave, pay your respects, get with family and forget about what the hell was going on. Back in the the old days when I was an intern, in Internal Medicine we were covering the Medical… Read more »
@palmasailor What you wrote about total frame / lifestyle change, gave me a stop. I am still thinking in terms of COMPLETION, check the boxes, get the result and then you are done. Its not going to work like that, because I have to become something else for good. It’s not just about making adjustments like stopping wasting time on pointless things or starting a hobby. I will probably need to change most of the people in my life to make the change stick. Man this is really hard. I underestimate my challenge again and again. Strange thinking how very… Read more »
for culum:
https://cryptonewsagency.com/
J
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/06/ellevito_narrowweb__300x567,0.jpg
Not sure I agree with BD on this… This guy seems like a douche, for example.
Oh wait that’s Vito Schnabel. He IS a douche.
lols High school-age Schnabel dated Sports Illustrated model Frankie Rayder, 12 years his senior. https://nypost.com/2014/05/12/meet-the-27-year-old-hollywoods-older-women-are-falling-for/ I tease, I tease Vito… I mean, sure he’s a douche, but there are lessons there… “I remember older women liking him when he was as young as 13, because he could carry on a conversation. He was precocious and elegant,” says Librizzi of his “surrogate little brother,” who lives in the West Village’s Palazzo Chupi building, which his father designed. “Younger women get weeded out because they can’t hold their own in a conversation with him. It’s not that he’s directing his attention exclusively… Read more »
“[He was] groomed to be with older women,” says the friend. “His mother [Jacqueline] is smoking hot, he’s the youngest with two older sisters, and even in his awkward phase, he still had this thing that was alluring to older women. He’s always had this confidence.” hmmm A 40-something socialite who has known Schnabel since he was a child, and asked that her name not be printed, says it’s obvious why he so beguiles older women: “When he talks to you, it’s like you’re the only person in the room,” she says. Ah Ha! His eccentric father is no stranger… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sajnloTFvU
Papa is a a DPA Hall of Famer…
(thanks dr zipper – will look!)
“Over-33 women, cougars included, tend to be Dominants, and Dominants don’t like confident Alpha Males (those women are offended by these kinds of men).” “A good-looking younger guy who clearly has no money, dresses like it, who is fun to talk to, and doesn’t come off like a player douchebag will absolutely clean up with cougars.” Cosign. If you’re confident and older, young women will be attracted and old ladies won’t, generally speaking. Older women will figure that they can’t compete with younger women and will automatically disqualify themselves. Even if the older guy doesn’t give off a player vibe.… Read more »
Field Report
This a.m. early-20s Hot Mama from Wally World was yakking about how she has transport problems and we discussed logistics and I offered to help out sometimes as long as she pays for gas and we exchanged nos. and she texted me “Thank you.”
Note to my “admirers” (cough-Blax-cough) who think that I only have game in a dance venue…this was not done in a dance venue or at night and we never discussed dancing.
This is catch and release because she’s married. Just to show I can.
” Just to show I can.”
Huh?
What do you think this is demonstrating?
Where I disagree with BD is that a young man should play up being ” young and dumb ” in order to bed older women. Sometimes, but most times not. Yeah sure, some older women will try to use a younger guy almost as a dildo of sorts to soothe her lusts, but that’s operating in her frame…. which is fine I guess if you just want some pussy – old or young. I was trying to put a number on how many older chicks I’d banged before 21, but meh, I can’t recall. “Younger women get weeded out because… Read more »
“Younger women get weeded out because they can’t hold their own in a conversation with him. It’s not that he’s directing his attention exclusively to older women.”
ah ok I get it. I generally try to avoid these ‘interesting conversations’ because they bore me. I just want to get this chick in my bed ASAP it’s the vibe I project….speed (cause it’s really effective with younger chicks) and I guess older women feel that. I guess I gotta slow it down and actually get to know them. Damn it!
What do you think this is demonstrating? Pulling a number. Likely her plan, too. She probably really needs a ride to work. Her husband works nights and goes to sleep before she has to go to work, so he can’t really give her a ride to work, but I assume that he picks her up from work. It’s also convenient if she wants a “ride” because plausible deniability. Isolation. And attention. If the girl didn’t want to give out her number, she could easily have said, “I have plenty of rides now, thanks anyway.” But we’ve chatted some over several… Read more »
….. one can miss a lot by being too singularly focused. Pussy and beds will always be there. *chukle*
I guess I gotta slow it down and actually get to know them.
Older women generally need more comfort. Giving comfort defuses the player vibe somewhat.
J
I guess I gotta slow it down and actually get to know them. Damn it!
They just have to feeeel it. You don’t actually have to get to know them. You can pull SNL over 33, just need either finer calibration/comfort or AMPED the fuck up Alpha dominance. On the ends of the curves.
A hooker (pimp) hit on me online yesterday on a game account I use. lol
ASD
Yeah offering provisioning is not a reliable test of your ability to get a number…
Consider if you changed a few words below
was yakking about how she has roomate problems and we discussed housing and I offered to help out sometimes as long as she pays for cable
Get it?
“That said there are a lot of men who have taken the red pill but they never make it public. Over time you’ll pick up on the cues.”
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LR! E-mail saga girl was in my city for 3 nights, work related. Epic LMR… Last MINUTE Resistance? LOL! @Sentient thought I could still do her. I’m glad to show he was right. Night 1: I went to do some sports. She had dinner alone. We discuss over the internet about the next night. There will be a cockblock. I say I’m not going out that night, but it is fine she can go out with him (DHV, IOD from me), we are going sightseeing the next day and going out on Night 3 anyway. She says “No, I want… Read more »
Not read all the posts above on the subject yet, but am familiar with Blackdragon’s thoughts on the “getting cougars” topic. Despite being a clueless barely-virgin BP dude, I pulled several much older (40+) women in my mid-20s – mainly because I ticked off the boxes BD describes and was “cute” etc (but never some kind of macho football player jock – much closer to being a “cute geek” who appeals to some cougars). ..but I’ve continued nailing them with regularity as I’ve gotten older and more RP and better at Game. When I do online (stopped now unless I’m… Read more »
@Everyone: ok it is again time for remedial “Sex Ed.” for late bloomers. Often in the RP there is a suggestion to go read the “Sex God Method”, which I did many months ago. It was a very good read but it is basically mindset, it has very few technical / techniques. The squirting 101 thing was great and I implemented it with some success (need to practice more). We also already covered pussies and angles: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-68/#comment-235927 @Sentient: That rotate hips line, I think that is a pretty good summary. Have done that often in the past. @Blax: great post… Read more »
IAS – I was hoping it was gonna be E-Mail saga girl!
Respect.
See now why it was waaaaaay better to stick in and try and turn it around rather than heed the calls to “next her”?
Going forward this is the kind of reference experience you can build on. and a year from now, when you’ve done things like this a few more times, girls will just smell it on you.
Props.
@IAS – wait, that was Email girl?? Wow. Double congratulations then! Really good LR too. Are you going to keep seeing her, see her again, what’s the plan? Did you disqualify yourself from an LTR etc? I was one of the people telling you to next her – not because I thought you couldn’t get her, but simply because in terms of effort and reward, there were much, much easier ways to get to N=2 (wasn’t there some cougar in a nightclub who basically asked you to take her home and you said no?). But I’m really glad you got… Read more »
IAS Further thoughts on your remedial sex ed questions This was a first for me. So a twofer then! I’m 95% or more sure my wife would do it if I encouraged her to You should introduce this… she will probably shit test you on it. Good opportunity to set your frame at home and it will turn her on. For guys thinking about getting married, I would never consider it unless you’ve gone all around the world to your satisfaction. girls taking the initiative is rare LOL, no. Jeez. I never ever asked or motioned a girl for a… Read more »
Obligatory “Page 69” demonstrative… for IAS
@Sentient: I don’t think I’ll get one-itis, but I had “feelings” for her already, as you surely know. I’m happy to have made the effort, I was enjoying (even the pen pal BS, as you guys would put it). And I still did about the same amount of approaches and game practice with randoms I would have done otherwise. As for the oral talk (and the 69 demonstrative)… Very funny. She did want to suck me while I fingered (any comfortable way to do that? I guess also in 69 configuration) but we didn’t do an actual 69. I’m pretty… Read more »
@IAS All in or all out… there is no half way. Good man! http://cdn.doublequotes.net/napoleon-hill-quotes/about-win/every-person-who-wins-in-any-undertaking-must-be-willing-to-cut-all-sources-of-r-403×403-nk2k4c.jpg “A bit more sucking and humping but my erection happens when she sucks and lasts very little during humping.” Heh, I had the same a couple of days ago. My balls had been taken care of before my trip, then I had two nights away from home and I said right I’m going to bang each night. The first night, I pull from a club quite late (once it clicked, it was logistics, removing obstacles, leading – done) and have a girl at mine for a… Read more »
@IRL: great FR/LR well done.
I also want to thank you again for those comments a few pages back that really resonated with me. That also helped me figure out what I wanted. Which is crucial for having a great mindset and a strong Frame.
@palmasailor Great article, I saved it for re-reading. I too have started compiling a RP mini-book on these texts, there will be a printed version. Here’s the central take-away, from my first reading: “What women want is to be selected. But by a man capable of selecting.” “The golden rule which should always be kept in mind for dealing with women in a sexual context Is to always be in control of the situation.” I seriously need to go on a field trip. Drink GTs like an aloof motherfucker. Also noted down a wisdom from Sentient’s earlier comment: “Approach BJ’s… Read more »
Sounds like a big head problem IRL, not a little head problem.
She was probably to “easy”…
Ok, short FR. Met this young (black) girl who opened me and asked to touch my beard as a lead in. Very promising so far. Just FYI, I live in an african shithole, as the Duck has apparently said. I took her number, but since I have found black girls to be very materialistic I ran my version of amused mastery, which mostly consisted of being evasive on such things as finances, where I live, what my work is and so on. I did try to spike by giving sexual innuendo on those occasions, but she got quite frustrated. Especially… Read more »
@Githyanki – welcome to the FR section. Sounds like you made a good start!
Read up on some of the basics and make it a point to interact with a few girls every day – it’s fun and you’ll keep getting better!
@Githyanki: baby steps is better than no steps. Funny, I was reading one of my FRs from almost two years ago and I referred that as baby steps as well. You can take bigger steps and you’ll be happier to have done so, but if you are making progress you are closer to your goals.
LR Crushed some limiting beliefs last night. I have a fever. my body is in pain and I’d kind of like to stay in but I suck it up. Take some medicine and drink some tea and roll out. First time I believe I’ve ever gone out sick. I arrive at midnight. Do my usual thing. On the dance floor, I grab a menu from an empty table and go to another table crouch down on one knee, and tell this one girl “we have a special drink today on the house” she’s like oh we already have drinks thanks”… Read more »
@j LOL WTF happened there? The chode at the end?
@IAS
Idk probably slept on top of the cum stained sheets
I’m like fuck it lets see what happens.
Great frame to be in.
@Palmasailor I absolutely believe that was the role planned for me, but she ran out of time as I played a delaying game. My educated guess about that one is that she is running between 3 and 5 orbiters just for cash, one or two (indications that sex is a chore to her) of those with sex for greater ROI. There is no stigma to multiple side fucks in local black culture. Oh, btw: I admit that I am running a very limited game with the main intent to practise, have fun and not pay for fucks, should they pop… Read more »
@Sentient She was probably to “easy”… Yeah… lack of challenge crossed my mind. Definitely a factor. But… Don’t neglect 30+ years of BP/FI conditioning… This shit isn’t just mental/emotional… See soy boys… Scary if you think about it… A few months back @Blaximus preached to run T level checks on the regular. Boom! Done. My first result: 320 total, 7.4 free. Whoa! Low sex drive made sense. I was learning game thinking that my ‘getting into state’ was slow… lol I increased gym effort and improved eating habits (thanks @j for the T boosting diet link). A month later I… Read more »
IRL
I think you have more T than all the current RSD instructors combined. Lol.
The big test is morning wood.
“I think you have more T than all the current RSD instructors combined. ”
haha probably true. Only one that seems to cares about T at all is Max:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-EPr2B9Hpg
Lol another good one from Richard:
@Sentient… Hahaha! I’m ROFL at the plaster pussy wall you posted about a week ago.. Very nice and illustrative! What’s funny to me was in my head I’m thinking “short pussy, long pussy, oooh a piercing, ugh.. roast beef curtains, mmmn perfect one..
Point being, yes they are quite different as are the angles and preferences of their owners..
On another note, some of those clits really do look like ‘tiny dicks’ (which they are, biologically speaking) but I try not to dwell on that.. Lol!
Sidenote- the Wikipedia page for Clitoris goes into surprising (and accurate) detail on how to get a woman off.. I kinda wish I’d read this at 15. Posted for any of you young bucks reading who want a leg up on how to leave an impression..
Gentlemen you Will be annoyed when you hear she has twice the number of nerves feeding the feels (800) compared to your paltry 400 or so. Yep, biology is a bitch. No wonder they can pass out when they come. I may need advice on maintaining a mission in the future as motivation is a severe problem due to issues with the brain chemistry and brain atrophy in general. Hope you guys don’t mind me venting at times. I know I need to walk the road myself, so I will keep it constructive. Currently I need recommendations for a good… Read more »
@Githyanki You may need surgery for your abdomen before you take on anything too creative. Also, maybe visit a good chiropractor to look at your back and neck before slight problems become things they can’t fix. Chiros probably can’t help with anything once your disk slips. BUT, as a preventive to problems down the road, they’re worth looking into. There’s forums and general net searching you can do to find solutions/people you feel comfortable talking to about all this. As for the hernia, once again, you really should go get it fixed, there’s all kinds of new procedures and things… Read more »
@Githyanki, I’m late 30s, not late 50s, but I have worse back issues than you. There are a number of bodyweight training methodologies available, but I like the Convict Conditioning progression. Download the first book (there are several books focussing on things like advanced techniques and minor muscle groups etc but you don’t really need them) and try the progressions. Ignore the hype and marketing in the book about “secrets of prison workouts” and “gyms are bad” etc – the actual 10 step exercise progressions (6 in total – for the major muscle groups in the body) are excellent and… Read more »
@IRL There is living on the edge, and pushing yourself to be fearless. When you’re on that edge just be aware of unintended consequences. Is the juice always worth the squeeze? Up to each man to decide for himself. We use the phrase “playing with dynamite” mostly in regards to the risks of Game and messing up relationships. This guy who fell was enjoying a sometimes risky hobby, it was a passion of his. I admire his ability to get outside his comfort zones, but you never know when one tiny misstep with be your last one. Better to die… Read more »
@Githyanki Currently I need recommendations for a good workout site for bodyweight training and flexibility. Special Needs: I have a smallish stomach wall hernia and lower back issues as well as fusing neck vertebrae. Fitness level low at age 58. Any recommendations Re books, competent instructors and websites would be great. I’m much in the same boat – I’ll be 59 in April. Had a hernia operation last Dec 1st and probably had 2 more lesser ‘incidences” since. I don’t intend on getting more surgery. Carpel tunnel, lower lumbar issues, knees shot from cycling/rock-climbing. Was doing StrongLifts5x5 up until the… Read more »
That should be ” I have don’t references available”
Just google it
@Roused That was a bit of an extreme illustration on my part, sure. Not for everyone. If you think about it, a jump from a height is “just” a step forward. A bold move, making your heart beat faster, but can teach you only so much. Even less so if you’re running away from the rest of your life… Could be as dumb as “stepping up” to marry a carousel rider single mother. Bold? Lol… Yesterday we stood at the edge of the abyss, but today we have taken a giant step forward. Being able to win 99.9% of your… Read more »
@Githyanki: if you have medical issues on your back I can’t discuss that, and even the Medical doctors here can’t properly advise. But if you want to learn body weight exercises and progressions, I find this to be a good source of information: http://www.startbodyweight.com/p/exercise-progressions_12.html Bodyweight progressions are a bit more complex than lifting weights, where you can just add a bit more weight and do the same movement to progress. But you’ll learn some interesting moves there. It is a shame if you can’t do heavy barbell squats and deadlifts though (maybe you can, but check with someone that can… Read more »
The next episode in remedial sex lessons is… COMING FROM BEHIND. In this episode, we will discuss tips for getting the tip in… In varied doggy style positions, and in varied holes. Experts please step in to deepen our knowledge. PUSSY: my guess is the best way to get a good angle is to get the girl to tilt the ass up. Legs must be spread a bit. Is it easier to get it in in the doggy with her face on the mattress than regular 4×4 position? What about standing doggy? GPS: as long as it is done with… Read more »
What about standing doggy?
I do that in the shower all the time. Using a finger to guide you in works great
@j – I agree re RSD. I think they know it too, but they made a conscious decision to dilute the PUA brand and go mainstream self-help – even a much smaller share of a much larger market is way more money – I think Tyler talks explicitly in more than one video about wanting to go from a $10 million company now to a $100 million company (haven’t seen the legal docs Sentient posted – not sure if they really are a $10 million company). One other thing I noticed about the videos – have you noticed they are… Read more »
IAS
Went gaming with my friend with model good looks the other night. That was a kick in the ego! haha. I had one set where it was going so smoothly, and he ruined it for me without meaning too at all (he’s actually a good friend who used his good looks to get me laid when we were kids) He literally just passed a beer to me and said ”He you go”, and straight away, my girl was drooling over him and I couldn’t turn it around. She was instantly obsessed with him. It Sucked! Been a bit low on… Read more »
You know I’m going to say this, but for the record: I’ve been in exactly that situation and turned it around (and failed too, several times before that). YaReally has several great posts in the archive on exactly this subject and how the same thing happened to him till he learned how to fix it. You basically need to spike her emotions so that she’s focussing back on you instead of him.
It probably won’t work the first, second or third time you try to turn it around, but if you keep practicing, it will work.
I certainly gave it my best shot!! cold reads, self amusement, negging etc etc. Everything I could think of to ‘spike’ her as you say. To no avail, though unfortunately. Thing is, he wasn’t even interested in her, really. He realised that he’d inadvertantly stole her from me, and then more or less ignored her hpoing she’d come back to me I guess, but the whole time she was trying to touch him, telling her friends about him, chasing him around the dancefloor etc etc. He didn’t do F-all which is what made it hurt, lol. I can’t imagine getting… Read more »
Good effort then. But don’t ignore it and pretend it never happened – go out as much as you can with this guy and keep practicing till it *does* work (and even when – not if – it does work, it will take a lot more practice to do it consistently – I’ve had it work plenty of times now but I’m still not fully consistent yet). Now you know it’s possible – it’s just a question of putting in the work to achieve it. I’ll say this: the very first time you have a cute girl turn away from… Read more »
PS – It needs to be congruent to your personality but what I find works for me (especially compared to the good looking wing I go out with most often, who is a very “straight” guy in conversations) is just being outrageously sexual because I can be congruent with that (YaReally used to to do something similar). PPS – You don’t say how attractive the girl was in this case, but in my experience the cuter girls (7s and 8s+) tend to be *more* receptive to you if you have Good game because you’re unusual – they’re used to Gameless… Read more »
@scars we chase those who ignore us. he was running game without even realizing it. she probably felt like you were ‘trying’ to get her. He’s the mysterious one. I would have introduced her to him, then go talk to some other girl within her view. This way it will make her realize that he actually isn’t all that special and slowly her attraction for him will fade and then when she looks around and sees you having a good time with another girl, she’ll realize that you’re actually the more attractive one. She’ll probably throw you an IOI to… Read more »
“The thing is after youve had the surgery nothing has changed. So you have more until you look ridiculous.”
https://twitter.com/kristynamarteli/status/824771177566593024
…unless he actually has good game, in which case I seem to recall YaReally suggesting physically picking up the girl and carrying her off (although that was more for random AMOGs, not your wing who shouldn’t be competing with you)
@culum – She wasn’t amazing. Maybe a 6.5? @J – that goes against what culum and yeareally advised? However, I actually DID do as you advise here a few months back when I was out with him (I don’t get to see him that much as he doesn’t part much anymore). On that ocassion, I opened up a girl sitting down in a pub. It was going very well. When she asked me who I was with, I actually called him over and introduced them. Again, instantly she’s got the doggy dinner bowl eyes. On this ocassion, I left them… Read more »
What @j said doesn’t go against what YaReally or I said at all. It just adds to it.
He’s basically saying to use social proof in your favour. That’s essentially one (effective) way of spiking her emotions. It’s not the only way, but it’s one way and it’s a good way.
Just to add – @j’s suggestion does *two* things – one is that it uses social proof to make you more attractive (plus points for you), and it *also* makes the good looking guy’s mystique drop (minus points for him) by letting him talk to her and her to realize he has no Game and is actually more boring than the cool guy charming all the other girls nearby (you).
Oh. I read it as ”try to spike her emotions and ‘outgame’ the handsome dude’ vs ‘ignore her, showing non-neediness and maybe she’ll become attracted when she sees you having fun (especially if the handsome dude is boring her).
But cool, I think I get what you’re saying
Having said that, I think no matter how bad his game would have been, he could have got her! lol.
@scars Having said that, I think no matter how bad his game would have been, he could have got her! lol. That’s why you lost her. You shut down as soon as he showed up. Now imagine if you thought you were the coolest dude around. Would you care about this handsome dude? Hell no! You are the coolest dude around. Him being handsome isn’t enough. He’s not even close to you. He’d need a billion bucks and a nine inch dick to even begin to compete with you, and you’d still be way cooler. So what would you do?… Read more »
” GPS: as long as it is done with confidence, it should be ok to tell her to guide the tip in with her own hand if she doesn’t do it by herself, but that is if she knows what she is doing. Otherwise, I imagine place the tip front first then guide it back with your own hand until it finds the hole and push in.
This is what I think I’ve done a few times, but I’d like to increase the consistency.”
Okay I give up. What’s GPS?
“Joke around about what a handsome awesome dude he is and the two of them should totally bang (which is really tooling the dude since now you’ve triggered her ASD, and it will throw the guy off if he doesn’t have game “what, no! I uh, we were just talking” haha — and since you don’t care if they really did bang — you are the coolest dude around, you can bang anyone you want — you don’t come across as butthurt)”
+1
J That’s good for AMOGs or other guys in your set. It’s not good for a wing when you are starting out*. You need to clear up the situation with your wing UPFRONT, who has the shot and what the other guy will do… In this case, your wing should talk you up, talk himself out (Have a GF etc.) and generally make it easier for Scars. Set rules with your wing or don’t use a wing, because as you see two are company and three a crowd. * – different when you have a good wing and you are… Read more »
“getting a girl to put down the phone” re: the montage video of the guy using the blow horn to get his girls attention back from her phone he is mate guarding. he is bathing her in attention. he is validating her use of a device. but, obviously its staged, so he’s not really doing any of those pedestalizing things. or is he? who wrote these scenes? him? her? unseen third flim student? what do they have in common? she is the focus (prize). he searches her out (with the intent to change her behavior). normally that would be seen… Read more »
@Blax: Guidance to Pussy Systems.
Either the woman’s fingers or my fingers, most likely.
Ideally I can use it when there isn’t visual contact with the target pussy.
@Sentient: LOL. Ok I imagined that was the case, but it is nice to have it confirmed. Where do you find this stuff?
Sick analysis brah
“younger guys will see vids like this and think… that’s awesome. what an asshole. that’s what girls want.”
lol Heartiste’s the one who shared the video. and I have a strong feeling he’s not a young dude.
They are YouTube (fake) pranksters. They did one with the roles reversed too:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd5v1M9HAE_/?hl=en&taken-by=hammy_tv
@Scars: don’t take it as badly. Your buddy inadvertently was running game when he ignored her to “help you” (oops) and you were inadvertently confirming to the girl you are lower value, as you were reacting to him and also eventually appearing as try hard with her. I can see it is tricky, as you need to do something to get her focus back on you so technically you do need to “react” and to do something, but the Frame of how you do it is key. Unfortunately I can’t advise better, but I think a good move (already suggested… Read more »
@IAS – That’s kind of what I done a few months back with the other time I mentioned. I opened a girl sitting down. Was going OK. She asked where my friends were and I called over my model friend who was at the bar. I was like ”I’m gonna warn you. He’s super good looking! You’ll fall in love fast!” and then he came over and she was instantly doe eyed. I playfully teased her about wanting him etc and it made her laugh and stuff, but at the same time, I don’t think it was enough to get… Read more »
Hi 24 yrs old, newly red pilled guy here. This comment/question is not particularly about dating but about how women see me. I am currently studying at a university out of my hometown. The place where i go to have my meals is a regular house. The wife of the family runs the catering service. Shes a 2, but very friendly, age is about 30, 2 kids, a good married life. One day she called me to tell that the service will remain closed for 2 days as she is going out of town for relaxation. She also said that… Read more »
Lol GPS must be guided pussy service, this is always nice afirmative action.
On the other hand it sounds like global positioning system for fat chicks really fat big girls.
Jijo
With all your experience, we should be asking you what she is thinking.
She has the hots for you man, this is why she says you are different.
@IAS
How’s your practice going? Wife’s back yet?
When learning new skills, some people record themselves to catch what they could improve… Good feedback loop. Just a thought… 😉
@jijo1020
“So my question is do women see me as a pushover?”
Depends. Do you stick your dick in one (or more)?
@IRL: flirting lightly with some girls that I actually intend to work with, so not going to push that for obvious reasons, but they are tossing their hair around and stuff like that as IOIs. I’ll see if I get them to go out after dinner so they work as pre-selection and see if I can pull a random as long (as the coworkers won’t realize it).
Been seeding the idea of recording on the FWB girl as well (I have recorded with the wife before, and want to do it again as well).
Will practice on wife soon…
Trying to understand the dynamic Married 9 years have children, I was the blue pill chump 100%, serious dead bedroom and attempts at “negotiated” intimacy, yep it was bad. In desperation I stumbled upon Red Pill about 3 years ago, long story short dove in head first. Situation at home wasn’t improving and out of frustration ended up using some of those new redpill skills and had a 1 time fling (a younger chick to boot) with another woman. Got caught, damn text msgs…… Now here is the interesting thing. In hindsight I was a dick when I got caught.… Read more »