For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
“will it even make a difference if ” things change “”
https://giphy.com/gifs/Dh78tzv7OUKDm
@ASD
“New Relationship Energy = limerence or infatuation = ”
When I was younger this was an addiction even if I had a steady there were many others at the same time. It was so energizing I could run for miles. It still happens from time to time but gets put aside as an unnecessary distraction to my chosen purpose.
I worked with an old guy that when I would talk about some strange he would say ,what will happen if you decide you like her better?
@stuff
It was so energizing I could run for miles.
Kind of like a second wind…because it is…both limerence and the second wind are due to oxytocin.
” Kind of like a second wind…because it is…both limerence and the second wind are due to oxytocin.”
Great.
What if one could learn to provide that ” second wind ” for himself, on demand, without outside influence?
I mean, not all the time of course, but most of the time? And women could only share it. Without one present, you’d still have all the ” winds ” you desire?
“What if one could learn to provide that ” second wind ” for himself, on demand, without outside influence?”
You already know how to do this Blax. It is in the goal like a hemi cuda or a nice rose garden,even a healthy family or tribe is an energizing goal.
New Relationship Energy aka crush aka “love” = chemical reactions as interpreted by inexperience.
“when I would talk about some strange he would say ,what will happen if you decide you like her better?”
Pair bond is at risk from this very real possibility.
Very common also for a guy to “love” his wife and his mistress and be unable to give up either…
You can make this happen…Dancing all night produces oxytocin = second wind…or even freestyling by yourself to your fav tunes
@ stuff
Yup, the possibilities are absolutely endless. I love women and they do give me great feelings and vibes, especially the wife, but they are just a part of a larger experience, never the focus of life.
@ asd
” You can make this happen…Dancing all night produces oxytocin = second wind…or even freestyling by yourself to your fav tunes ”
Damn, I thought I had all of the curtains drawn.
@ Sentient ” New Relationship Energy aka crush aka “love” = chemical reactions as interpreted by inexperience. ” I agree. But we should allow ourselves to experience this more widely and not just project this onto women alone. Lots of stuff can cause a chemical reaction. We need to harness it and use it to our best advantage. We control our interpretations, hence we can have experiences we choose when we choose, under the circumstances we choose. Hell, I love a 5 degree day almost as much as a 75 degree sunny day. Interpretation. Crushes are bad, like addiction that… Read more »
Blax I can remember a time when chicks were “the focus of life”. The addiction pathway is still there,I choose not to walk it. This is a healthy part of youth,I wouldn’t have missed it for anything nor discourage any young man from chasing tail as a primary goal from puberty to mastery,then he should have developed more interests necessary also to survival.
@ stuff ” Blax I can remember a time when chicks were “the focus of life”. The addiction pathway is still there,I choose not to walk it. This is a healthy part of youth,I wouldn’t have missed it for anything nor discourage any young man from chasing tail as a primary goal from puberty to mastery,then he should have developed more interests necessary also to survival.” Me Too ( not #MeToo ). I agree with everything you said, young men need to experience it. I know I did, as chicks drove me to distraction in my younger days. It became… Read more »
Blax I think these guys start to late,they are lied to their whole lives and PUA is the way out of the bullshit and into reality. Face it if you fuck around with pussy long enough reality will catch up sooner or later. The question is to ignore it into oblivion or learn and move forward.
What if one could learn to provide that ” second wind ” for himself, on demand, without outside influence? I mean, not all the time of course, but most of the time? And women could only share it. Without one present, you’d still have all the ” winds ” you desire? That’s kind of too much of an Apex Fallacy Blaximus. You have to be careful when talking about universal Male Imperatives that help out all the infinite types of desires, missions and purposes of Red Pill men. Not every one just has it all or can get it on… Read more »
@Culum
“I saw an RSD Madison video where he says something like “I know I can go to a club and pull an attractive woman pretty much any day of the week” ”
NYC – sure
Sacramento – maybe not, you might burn through the off night (Sun-Wed) talent pool.
Girls like sex and make themselves available
@SJF ” So when you say what I quoted, I still see a man regularly fucking women as a necessary component of a healthy masterful life of a man. Sure, women are a complement to your life, not the focus of it. But they are still Complementary to your life. In any relationship platform that is one man’s choice. Complementary means they add to your life. Even if you are masculine dominant, that is not mutually exclusive to a women adding to (complementing) your life. ” I don’t disagree. I’m not saying to stop or eschew sex with women, lol,… Read more »
“what one man chooses to do with women is subordinate to his over arching purpose, his mission and his power to control his own life and the circumstances in his life.”
+1
“Blax I think these guys start too late,they are lied to their whole lives and PUA is the way out of the bullshit and into reality. Face it if you fuck around with pussy long enough reality will catch up sooner or later. The question is to ignore it into oblivion or learn and move forward. LOL. Reminds me of: Good time Charlie’s got the blues Good time Charlie’s got the blues Ya know my heart keeps tellin’ me “You’re not a kid at thirty-three” “Ya play around, ya lose your wife” “Ya play too long, you lose your life”… Read more »
@ Blaximus “I guess I’m not the best messenger for this.” You might not be the best, you you are very good, and at times great at delivering the message of proper masculine form and being good at a being a man. And men that are trying to figure things out for themselves, would do well to look at men that are successful at being good at being a masculine male. I would once again point you to read this that I linked to earlier for context in what you are trying to say. I get what you are trying… Read more »
@ Scars 1) Mother Hen and a Cute chick – so you saw a hot chick and went at it like a dog on a squirrel – nice bait opener and response – You’ve got the juice – but then you make a beeline for the honey pot. – quick thinking with the comeback, but the damage was done For that approach to have worked – you would need SO MUCH situational value and objective value that they would forgotten their morals. The way a player would have done it – Approach, same opener, same comeback – So How Do… Read more »
@Blax
Regarding NRE – You’ve never enjoyed the “honeymoon” of a new monogamous relationship?
WIA
Not in the way I’ve seen it described, where it starts really high and then falls down pretty low. But I never was very quick to go monogamous. I stay evenly happy, and it’s not very dependent on women. In fact, I don’t really let anyone overtly affect how I happen to feel. I take the good where it appears and create it for myself when none is apparent.
If that remotely makes sense.
@ sjf
Thanks. Steve said it better than I did. That’s practically what I was trying to get across.
@Culum @j – question for you. What proportion of nights out now do you get an SNL? And are there a significant proportion where you get close but no lay (so for eg, you pull her but for whatever reasons, no lay)? j’s doing fine…lol… but you don’t need data points from other men… you just need to understand your OWN situ and expectations based on YOUR abilities… and YOU should be at 150%…lol… but not kidding… at LEAST one per night out… and threesomes (or two bangs in one night…) for half of those…not kidding on that either… it’s… Read more »
“Regarding NRE – You’ve never enjoyed the “honeymoon” of a new monogamous relationship?” That’s a loaded and baited question. When you ask that of a guy or guys that have had extended long term relationships (that they, like, are valuable and are ongoing-ly what they want, truly , why not just ask: “Have you had the experience of not being let down by your relationship well after the honeymoon?” When you never got bored, never thought it wasn’t worth it, when the relationship was a valuable asset to your life. When you didn’t want to squander that asset? With no… Read more »
@Culum Struan ….just total, crippling approach anxiety in daygame (except for the occasional situational opener – like “I hate it when someone is late” to a girl obviously waiting at a downtown meeting spot, that sort of thing). I have tried quite a few times and mostly given up in disgust with a view to nailing nightgame first and then coming back to daygame. I have some AA in nightgame too, but it’s manageable and I’m getting better at pumping up my state and fixing it. Daygame, not so much. What is going on here? Please spell out your mindset.… Read more »
I love that FR breakdown, @WIA. Thanks. . Anyway, went out last night and made out with this gorgeous teenager. My friends thought it was hilarious bearing in mind i’m in my 30’s. Nice validation boost, but I feel as though I didn’t ‘game’ her. For whatever reason, she simply thought I was good looking I guess, and after some eye contact, and some chode conversation, we started kissing, I also done quite well with another beauty who looked identical to porn star ‘Marsha May’. So hot but also friendly and talkative. VERY rare combo in my experience Weird night.… Read more »
@scars “we started kissing” I’d have teased her first. I know its difficult sometimes (especially cause she’s so gorgeous lol) but we want to make these girls chase us, cause everyone else on the planet is chasing them. Stand out mate. devalidate her: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/the-game-concept-of-devalidation/ “Would love to have taken it further with the 18 year old, but everything was working against me (my mates, her mates, venue, etc)” Then why didn’t you? and what do you mean by the venue was working against you? You could have told your wingmen to disarm her friends while you isolated your girl (”we’re… Read more »
@Culum
“I saw an RSD Madison video where he says something like “I know I can go to a club and pull an attractive woman pretty much any day of the week” – meaning, bad luck aside he’s pretty sure he can go in to a night club any night of the week and make an SNL happen (although not necessarily with one particular girl).”
Fuck Faith Frame 27:09 – 28:20
Once I was at a bar, in the afternoon, upstairs and sipping a blond beer while reading a book. I sat near the window, turning my back to the rest of the room. After a while, two girls around 20 yo entered and sat 2 meters away from me, but I could’nt see both their faces. They were probably HB+7, based on their physics. I wasn’t there to hit on girls, just wanted to enjoy the aftenoon and read, but I couldn’t help eavesdropping on them, and one of them started talking about an ex-boyfriend of hers. I don’t remember… Read more »
J culum
Fuck Faith Frame – deconstruct it though… “Just imagine at the end of the night I am going to get laid”… “I know this week I am going to get laid if I go out“… “girl’s like Do Something… be a man… LEAD me“
@SJF
I wonder if reading transurfing reality will get that song good time charlie out from being stuck in my head. Shees!
Culum
http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/01/woman-caught-giving-oral-to-man-on-plane-after-meeting-on-the-plane-7044365/
“They are said to have met one another on the Delta Flight from Los Angeles to Detroit on Sunday and got on so well that she ended up giving him a blow job.The woman, 48, and man, 28, were both due to get connecting flights at Detroit to separate destinations, but were instead taken into custody. She was heading to Nashville while he was heading towards Miami. The alleged blowjob happened in their seats rather than the plane’s toilet.”
Lol. When I was a teen, I got blowjobs twice on greyhound buses during ridiculous 12 hour rides.
Somehow implied in the convos above, is the fear of “being alone”. Why are you so afraid of it? It is baffling to me.
I mean, in sexual terms I pretty much wasted my 20s and it hurts like hell, but I have never wanted to get married or even have a girlfriend. I just wanted sex. Once that hasn’t happened, what else there is?
Sometimes I feel like a emotionless robot lol
“I wonder if reading transurfing reality will get that song good time charlie out from being stuck in my head. Shees!”
Not really, But it can switch up the Danny O’Keefe voice track to the Elvis Presley voice version. Chosen from the infinite space of variations.
So what is the purpose of a woman in a relationship outside of procreation and companionship?
I woud imagine support of the man’s purpose and likewise for the woman. Above and beyond that though?
Coming from AFC days I never even gave this a second thought but the recent discussion got me thinking about what I’m truly looking for in a relationship so would be interested to hear what you all have to say.
@Zaphkiel
What was your plan with those two girls you engaged with?
Why not jump through that window you opened for yourself and have a nice conversation with them and give them value? Clearly they were open to talking to you. Were those the first two people you talked to that day? Were there other people you could have had a conversation with leading up to that interaction that you didn’t choose to speak with?
Well, I had no plans. I really surprised myself when I intervened in their girl-talk. Not like me, I received a “good” education by my mother. But as I said I lost my shit right after when I saw how hot they both were. Barring the bartender, I didn’t speak to anybody. I was alone upstairs near the window, and only I and the two girls where there when the action took place. Thing is, I have very little pratice, and I’ve been conditionned to be introverted by my childhood and all. It’s really a tough pill to swallow.
http://www.cmegroup.com/education/featured-reports/evolving-economics-of-bitcoin-gold-currencies.html there are good reasons for fiat currency; as usual, though, politics and power are the unseen hands at work influencing sound money policies… taking a generally useful idea and corrupting it the author does a good job of explaining the differences between currency as a ‘storage of value’ vs ‘medium of exchange’ “This is the beauty of fiat currencies. Central banks can create as much money as they deem necessary. Moreover, fiat currencies pay interest, and long-term interest rates allow investors to discount future cash flows into the present, creating liquidity, facilitating trade and greasing the wheels of commerce.… Read more »
@ sjf Good black dragon article. I haven’t experienced what he describes as nre since my early 20’s though. I guess I expect more from a woman than her looks so I don’t get that adrenaline rush from strictly a woman’s presence in my vicinity or in my life. There are literally billions of women. Black dragon points to some good reasons why nre can be dangerous, but I believe that all men should always maintain a strong mental point of origin. If the mpo is strong enough, chicks can’t make you tingle and become giddy. You’ll always keep your… Read more »
“Stores of value are deflationary and deflation is destabilizing…” To whom? How? Is destabilization bad, or good. For whom? How? I now walk around with more computer power in my pocket than took up a whole desk in 2000. The 2000 comp costs thousands. The current one a bit over 100. This has been extremely destabilizing. Is it bad? Bankers now depend on it. ” . . . gold has been in 5,000-year bubble” Compared to fiat currency. In relation to the other commodities it can be traded for, it has been almost flat line stable. You can compare prices… Read more »
None. Lol
kfg – not sure what your point is, but would like to know; I took the article to be a good explanation of differences between ‘storing value’ and ‘currency’ using the ancient (gold) and the modern (bitcoin) as exemplars; didn’t seem like it was advocating anything or going deeper than that; but I’m no expert
are you augmenting it or arguing against something?
Bonus question:
Fiat money is not, as the gentleman claims, inflationary. It exerts a very powerful (essentially irresistible) deflationary (by his own argument this would be an undesirable, destabilizing effect) influence on one thing necessary for industry.
What is that thing?
@Dr. Zipper:
This is a premise: “there are good reasons for fiat currency”
Another way to look at the bonus question:
All real world systems are a matter of compromises. To get one thing, you must give up some other thing. As a rule of thumb it is often expressed this way:
You can have it:
1.Cheap
2.Fast
3.Good
Pick any two.
The premise was made as a simple declarative. For the creation of a real world model an important word was redacted. That word is “IF.”
There are good reasons for fiat currency, IF . . .
Fill in the blank.
Catcher’s
So what is the purpose of a woman in a relationship outside of procreation and companionship?
I would imagine support of the man’s purpose and likewise for the woman. Above and beyond that though?
feminine energy…. the muse.
http://www.paulcezanne.org/images/paintings/the-kiss-of-the-muse.jpg
http://www.post-impressionism.org/83069/Hortense-Breast-Feeding-Paul-large.jpg
Blax
I haven’t experienced what he describes as nre since my early 20’s though.
Right… now you have experience.
“New Relationship Energy aka crush aka “love” = chemical reactions as interpreted by inexperience.”
There are still the phenomena of the “lightning strike” and the “dick twitch” girls.
Alex, I’ll take ” labor ” for 500.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0iXfa2unYY
Lightning Strike aka The Thunderbolt…
“…. the muse . . .”
. . . is illustrated in the second picture, all the way down.
I’m just arriving at my muse/mistress place. At my farm to visit Mother Nature.
As I pull up in the driveway I can feel the excess feminine energy flowing into me.
I brought some fiat currency with me. What that gives me is Efficiency. I mean, I can pay my buddy for a couple cords of ash firewood. Instead of firing up my Husqvarna and swinging a splitting maul, I can concentrate on other things and have my wood too.
kfg – I’m sounding argumentative here but not trying to be “All real world systems are a matter of compromises. To get one thing, you must give up some other thing” that’s a declarative premise, too, and one that I’m not willing to grant universal applicability; I don’t see an ‘IF’ attached to your premise, does that invalidate it? let’s keep it at a somewhat casual discussion level and not degrade into pedantic semantics I would like to learn, but not getting that from you on this one; and I know you’ve never mentioned that was your intention anyway so… Read more »
@Blaximus: ‘”Alex, I’ll take ” labor ” for 500.”
Now, let’s not always see the same hands.
The answer was hidden in plain sight here:
” . . . gold and bitcoins . . . are stores of value. Stores of value are deflationary and deflation is destabilizing…”
Fiat currency destroys wealth. That’s its function.
Cui bono?
“Fiat currency destroys wealth. That’s its function.”
now we’re getting somewhere; so when you rhetorically ask if banking systems are divesting of gold, are you implying that their goal is to get others (people/entities) to take fiat money as the proxy for wealth and forego holding gold (true wealth/value)? even I can see with my simpleton view that gives enormous power to those calling the shots with monetary policies
Catcher’s
Watch “Life Lessons” from New York Stories… A great RP viewing.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm8pv4
Feminine energy… the muse.
@Dr. Zipper: “I’m not willing to grant universal applicability. . .” On the purely abstract scale, see Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorems. On the micro scale, see Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle. On the macro scale, see the Laws of Thermodynamics. Negate them and win a couple of prizes, but IF they are true, then my premise is true. Or just mess around with a goal oriented machine of some sort in the shed. Bicycles, race cars and lift boosters are perhaps the ideals. Economics can be viewed as a machine of some sort (although if taken literally it will cause problems, many of… Read more »
@kfg / Zipper,
1. Ever read the book Web of Debt? Fascinating stuff.
2. Ever see the YouTube video “All Wars Are Banker Wars” Also fascinating.
Discuss!
” . . . are you implying that their goal is to get others (people/entities) to take fiat money as the proxy for wealth and forego holding gold (true wealth/value)?”
Yes.
The answer to the variant question is: IF you are managing a labor farm.
kfg – ‘cheap, fast and good’ is hardly at the same level as Godel, Heisenberg and Thermodynamics lol
you’ve ignored my honest questions and moved on to something else to muddy the waters
systems, logic and machines are my realm so feel free to speak in those terms; however, I must be more god-like than I thought because ‘cheap fast and good’ I do daily (insert joke here)
just because not many can do it doesn’t make it universally impossible
“labor farm”
ouch, but brutally true; now I get your point, thanks
kfg – I know it’s your style to comment the way you do; you’ve got some good shit rattling around in your head but getting at it is tricky and error prone; how’s this for a premise:
kfg’s knowledge and insights are worthy and sometimes hard to decipher , IF he’s here to teach anyone anything
“I must be more god-like than I thought because ‘cheap fast and good’ I do daily . . .” Then you are not working anywhere near the limits. The Law of Records is logarithmic. A 90% job is fairly easy. Alternatively, you are making more compromises than you are prepared to admit to. About any economy car these days can hit about 100 mph. GP cars of the 30’s had a top speed of circa 200 mph from circa 400 hp. GP cars of today have a top speed of circa 200 mph from circa 800 hp. Today’s GP cars… Read more »
ok kfg, don’t count me out as god-like, though I wouldn’t want you to believe me anyway on that one, too much hassle with folks pestering me for free miracles, etc.
I would have gone with ‘cheap fast and good’ are totally subjective, contextual and relative… much like ‘creepy’ and ‘sexual assault’ and ‘harassment’ lol
@westindianarchie ”Loving the FR. I can’t tell if you’re frustrated or having fun. Some of these you could have turned into more than just a “hi and bye” – if you had some sort of game plan for the conversation. ———————————————————- Thanks. So, regarding ‘having a plan for the conversation’ can you elaborate? I’ve reverted more back too a kind of ‘natural game ala MaxRSD’ having given it a go with more scipted stuff. e.g open with a certain opinion opener, then run a routine about the rings on her finger or whatever, but I didn’t notice any more success… Read more »
“I would have gone with ‘cheap fast and good’ are totally subjective, contextual and relative…”
It is a rule of thumb, not a formal theory. A simple model for basic cognitive understanding. Like A Stitch in Time Saves Nine, which, likewise, is not literally true. It can be expanded into a formal theory. A formal theory which can be logically consistent, at the expense of not being able to express all true statements.
no shit, the one thing you feel the need to explain is the difference between a rule of thumb and a formal theory, very helpful; here’s a few more rules of thumb: – Slow and steady wins the race vs Time waits for no man – A penny saved is a penny earned vs Penny wise, pound foolish – With age comes wisdom vs Out of the mouth of babes come all wise sayings – No one is perfect vs Practice makes perfect stop moving the fucking goal posts; sometimes you go precise and specific, then flip to general and… Read more »
kfg’s knowledge and insights are worthy and sometimes hard to decipher , IF he’s here to teach anyone anything
It’s fun though, even when I don’t get it.
Today’s GP cars are giving away 400 hp to . . .
arrive at 200mph in about 10 seconds…
” stop moving the fucking goal posts; sometimes you go precise and specific, then flip to general and informal; it comes across as disingenuous and somewhat troll-ish; wouldn’t be out of character if it were all intentional, it might be entertaining for you; sucks for those of us trying to figure shit out ”
Lol.
I actually enjoy kfg’s manner of communication immensely, and it actually helps me to grasp things on a more visceral level.
He could type ” … ” and I’ll be like ” exactly “. He he he.
“stop moving the fucking goal posts; sometimes you go precise and specific, then flip to general and informal; it comes across as disingenuous and somewhat troll-ish;”
Aye see kfg’s comments as playful…a wee bit entertaining to us puhr Skoetz who have nothing to due butt hunt grouse and hit a wee ball with long kluebz
“arrive at 200mph in about 10 seconds…” I’m more impressed by the 0-100-0 in four seconds of the modern cars. Compare that to the famous quote of Ettore Bugatti when a driver complained that the brakes didn’t work for shit: “My cars are made to go, not stop.” Note that the 200 mph figure for both ages of cars isn’t terminal velocity. It’s achieved velocity on the track, which is something rather different. Older cars would actually go faster on the salt flats then the newer cars, and did, on the autobahn. This is what led Colin Chapman to complain… Read more »
@scars
“in my experience, routines and DHV stories don’t help hook them at all.”
Vibing + chick crack (teasing, misinterpretations, cold reads, storytelling) + personal routines = reaching the hook point 100% of the time.
“The best PUAs, the ones getting laid, know how to vibe but can also progress through the waypoints using routines when necessary. This combines the best elements of both styles the girls feel a connection because you’re vibing properly, and you can escalate via the use of routines:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150709050138/http://www.rsdwiki.com/index.php?title=How_to_Ride_the_Vibe_to_the_Fuck
To keep it simple:
Vibing is your flatline talk _________
chick crack is your spike /\/\/\/\
and as Max explains here at 1:43:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5mFl7ov5xk&t=10303s
some girls need more /\/\/\/ than ______ and vice versa gotta calibrate to the specific girl.
I link this clip a lot of times here cause I think its a good example (he’s got better infields in The Natural) of him vibing + chick crack + personal routines (shit you hear him say over and over in his other infields. i.e. “what kind of business?” “shady business” then gives real answer)
J
To me a crucial part of “vibing” is both subcommunicating sexuality and demonstrating to her that you know she is as well. A seductive demeanor.
@Sentient
Yup and that can be subcommunicated via laser eye contact. which Max does above.
…and kino
“flatlining” too much implies lack of sexual subcommunication.
@j With ‘spikes’ I also do what max does with some stock/funny responses to typical questions etc, but unfortunately, most of the time the girls don’t actually ask me questions, so I need a way to spike it without the need for her to be asking me stuff. so I guess that would be ‘chick crack’ and cold reads and stuff, although I don’t have any good/all purpose examples floating around in my head. With the super hot girl at the bar last night I opened her with an observation about her costume and then teased her about having glaucoma… Read more »
@scars
“most of the time the girls don’t actually ask me questions, so I need a way to spike it without the need for her to be asking me stuff.”
yeah game yourself. Law of state transference:
Scars
“At this point I asked her plans for the night and stuff (not sure if this is a mistake based on what WIA said? If it is, i’m not sure what I WAS supposed to do.”
The chart.
Yeah watch Julien here loop through the DHV (good subcommunications via self amusing, laser eye contact, unreactive) – IOD – IOD (negative spikes/negs) several times till she opens up then he shakes her hand and transitions to flatline for a bit (what’s your name? are you Russian? do you speak it?”)
@Scars “Thanks. So, regarding ‘having a plan for the conversation’ can you elaborate? I’ve reverted more back too a kind of ‘natural game ala MaxRSD’ having given it a go with more scipted stuff. e.g open with a certain opinion opener, then run a routine about the rings on her finger or whatever, but I didn’t notice any more success in doing that VS interview mode. But is that what you mean by a ”plan for the converation’” ____________________ Let’s do a quick recap 1. You used a scripted line to open the first set. That first set went great,… Read more »
Sentient, there’s no place for vibing in your chart or bouncing or the pull or dealing with cockblockers, etc.
newly – Banker Wars… I don’t know about the conspiracy stuff, but I am in agreement with the idea of a money system based on value, not debt; and also not a privately owned system… how the fuck would that seem a good idea to the common man? this is why people believe in conspiracy theories… shit just doesn’t make sense on a certain level but you *know* someone is benefiting greatly and control of information is key to it staying that way
will put your book suggestion on my list, thx
Dr. Zipper I read somewhere long ago, that central bank’s first move is to seize control of Gold when instituting a fiat system. The U.S. outlawed gold currency, and even possession of certain amounts of gold. Not a conspiracy at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102 Everywhere a ” central bank ” was established, no gold currency was allowed. The fed is our central bank. And the people have never voted for debt based currency systems. Governments do this because declining has it’s penalties – http://www.businessinsider.com/the-rothschild-gang-shadow-conspiracy-or-rumor-2011-6 I’ve talked to every member of my family, and tons of friends and strangers alike, and I conclude… Read more »
@Dr. Zipper: Check out Nathan Lewis at http://newworldeconomics.com/ I actually found him through his articles on urbanism, which I highly recommend. I’m not a gold freak, I’m an intrinsic value freak. A can of Spam is a store of wealth as well, and you can eat it without having to make a trade, but gold (and more generally metals) has certain properties that make it well suited as a value unit of exchange. I’ll note that minting intrinsic value coinage is not making the value of money. The value of the metal is the value of the coin. The purpose… Read more »
Dodging the link minimum –
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/31/spooky-market-valuations-at-greenspan-irrational-exuberance-level.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-05/greenspan-s-irrational-exuberance-looks-entrenched-20-years-on
Destruction of wealth indeed.
ASD
“Sentient, there’s no place for vibing in your chart or bouncing or the pull or dealing with cockblockers, etc.”
lol. Really?
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU1EJDdj4iM&w=1280&h=720%5D
Ok, I’m out.
@WIA, do you consider RSD game (take Max or Julien or whatever) to be using mysterymethod as has been claimed here a few times now out of interest? (I’ve seen ”RSD Is Mystery Method!!” written here a few times) But As you say, they tend to use ‘natural game’. ”What you say doesn’t matter, it’s in the sub-communications’ etc. They certainly don’t plan entire conversations beforehand or whatever. Every infield follows a different pattern of conversation. it’s organic. They open, vibe and talk about whatever pops up, lead, physically escalate, suggest going to their house – bang. They break various… Read more »
RE. the flow chart: Can you give me 4 or 5 examples of ‘IOD’s’ that the guy uses at the open, and for when she give an IOD?
I want to make my own version of that chart, but with actual ‘lines’ (about 5 or so) for each stage.
“Everywhere a ” central bank ” was established, no gold currency was allowed.” In order to run a labor farm you must keep the labor units relatively poor. If they accumulate wealth, they don’t have to work for you to meet their fundamental needs. You must have a monopoly on wealth. Gold has an intrinsic value – the properties of gold. People don’t need the government, or a bank, to assay, weigh and exchange gold. If you wish to have a monopoly on gold, you must physically possess it. Now enter the idea of “legal tender.” This is not the… Read more »
Wait a sec I thought that nutter Oswald just decided to pop him for no reason whatsoever?
WIA
“Now that you have gotten them discussing something – what do you do at that point to move them towards going to brunch the next morning?”
^^^So much wisdom.
Be ruthless… chess not checkers… etc. not just trite sayings.
@ Sentient
I don’t subscribe to the ” plot ” theory re: Kennnedy, but he pissed off a shit load of people, including the central banks/ federal reserve by trying to regain the authority to ” print money ” and not have debt owed to banks.
blax and kfg – excellent commentaries and thanks for the links
History is a motherfucker. In a good way.
I’m sure the pissing off had nothing to do with it. at all… Just a coincidence the right guy ended up dayud.
Mackay
“Every infield follows a different pattern of conversation. it’s organic. They open, vibe and talk about whatever pops up, lead, physically escalate, suggest going to their house – bang.”
And every bang goes through the three steps… A>C>S
Could be 7 minutes – could be 7 hours…
”And every bang goes through the three steps… A>C>S”
Obviously. Just in a completely different way
re. ‘plan for the conversation’ – I mainly use RSD for my teachings and so I don’t really have a list of conversations and topics strategically laid out in my head to be honest. Never seen that mentioned in any RSD products. @J what is your order of conversation out of interest, since you’re kind of the only guy who seems to be ‘getting amongst it’ as we say in the UK! When I got laid like 2 weeks back I think the order of conversation after I opened was like her job, her friends, tattoos, alcohol, and then it… Read more »
Mackay
“Obviously. Just in a completely different way”
Really? How do you know when you have attraction? When to move to comfort?
If only someone would write that down…