For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@JRT
Is there a better place I can go to get better quality advice?
Nope.
@Rollo
Congratulations on your daughters wedding.
Grandpa soon ya fucker… lol…
Congratulations on the wedding (and anniversary) Rollo!
Oh and IAS – great LR/FR – I really like your persistence and frankly I think it counted the first time..
That kind of stuff with the condoms happens to me occasionally too.
And I did have a virgin once too (older though, like early 30s) and made essentially the same decision as you – that I didn’t want the responsibility (that was the one that on a subsequent meetup almost ended in an FRA which I managed to defuse with HABD and YaReally’s help – jeez, it must have been quite a few years ago..)
@Rollo
Congratulations!!!… on both those life events…
i guess you really can actually use RP/TRM to stay married and raise successful children… who knew?…lol
good luck!
@JRT Thank you. I am not impressed by the concept of animalistic moral depravity espoused by most here, especially HABD. lol… i’ve never espoused anything…lol… i just do analysis based on RP/TRM ideas… which are ALL accurate btw… RP/TRM is just understanding girls and how they ALL function… = AWALT… whether you choose to accept that and how you choose to use that understanding is up to you… @Rollo chose to use it to stay married and raise a successful child… i used it to turn my marriage around and keep my family intact… @PalmaSailor used it to recover from… Read more »
@HABD Interestingly you don’t really see it until you’ve been through a few life changes having taken it. I lost the big court case and I probably won’t be able to pay all of it in time bc I have to sell assets which I haven’t managed to do yet. That could mean that my credit is vucked for 6 years. And at 56 that’s me outta the borrowing game so I just have to earn enough to buy a house etc… which means focusing on the new business. Vucked credit also makes rental difficult. Anyway we decided to change… Read more »
Sorry to hear that Palma. But if there’s anyone who can fight through all that stuff and come out victorious, it’s you. Isn’t that a British saying “Keep Buggering On” or something? @JR Terrier – glad you’re still here and reading at least. Just to add to everything HABD said – when my wife/mother of my children and I had sex a few days ago (she’s a typical soccer mom type and great cook and very “motherly” in her image), she got really turned on (even more than usual) and just before she came she said “harder, harder, f*ck me… Read more »
Palma But she’s not gone, she’s initiating dirty monkey secks at least once a day. She’s not going anywhere without me / conversely she’d go anywhere with me. And it’s the first time I’ve seen that ^^ and understood it. Like Rollo says, sensuality is their agency. She knows on a limbic level her role is to offer succor. And going through the adversity (and winning more than not) is how those ride or die girls are made. They don’t come from some catalog that any blog reading dweeb can just “pick the right one” and all will be well.… Read more »
@JTR
since bonding with a ‘gem of a girl’ is what you say you want to accomplish, here is a primer on ‘bonding’ for you…
https://therationalmale.com/2019/07/31/alpha-widows/
follow the links therein for more…
and everything!!! in those^^^ OPs has been proven true with extensive field testing/reporting/observation/etc…
still gotta do THE WORK ™ though…
good luck!
@PalmaSailor
@HABD
Interestingly you don’t really see it until you’ve been through a few life changes having taken it.
true enough… mostly…
buut, if you keep your eyes and mind open, you can see this sh^t everywhere in real life too… it’s just that the FI social conditioning interferes with an accurate assessment/understanding… it’s just that it’s more in your face if you are actually living the example…lol
hope you and the fam are doing well in spite of the immediate setbacks…
good luck!
N=21. I waited some 6 weeks for this one. Met the girl during her holiday stay here, I game her, it’s clear that we are attracted to each other, mutual friend also on holiday commented on it to me, even. She “casually” drops the info that she has a boyfriend. I get some logistics and offer that she can stay at my house. She will think about it. The mutual friend invites herself to also stay at the house, I say sure. I do manage to get my target in isolation for one dinner. I don’t go for the Kiss… Read more »
IAS – great work.
How old is N21?
And did she come back to your city just to see you?
It sounds like the “come stay with me” strategy is really good even with girls you don’t know that well..(and is a great compliance/attraction test too).
@HABD The family is very well thank you: https://imgur.com/a/DeZVkXy It isn’t going to be as bad as 2009 / 2011. Back then I lost my main business, most of my assets, most cash on hand and my credit profile. I was underwater with some stuff I’d done to hold it all together. Altogether if it all crystallised I was £700k under. I should have gone bankrupt but if I’d done that my son would have ended up in social housing and in a terrible school. This time I’ll either lose the majority of my cash at hand but keep my… Read more »
Keep grinding old dog.
And yeah, it is surreal to watch it all with the The Glasses on…
[Whatever happened to Anonymous Reader, guess covid got him]
I don’t know about Anonymous Reader but that young lad with the hydro electric and stuff had a setback.
His mother died. I can’t give too much detail but she literally fell flat on her face whilst doing something mundane. No notice.
Off like a light switch.
Hey Palma – is this what you’ve been doing in your spare time to blow off steam??
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/08/14/meet-the-blade-runners-the-underground-activist-group-waging-war-on-sadiq-khans-ulez-monitors/
@OTP N=21 is 33 year old. I mostly get late 20s or early 30s girls. To some extent they are “post-epiphany” but still young and considerably younger than me. She did come back to my city just to be with me. She booked the trip and broke up with her bf 1 or 2 days after booking the trip. She was surprised that I kissed and got her laid on the first night. I already had her say that I’m the best sex of her life (she is really good at it actually, about on par with N=3… They are… Read more »
@IAS
Was N=20 a chubby ‘virgin’ who only does anal? 😂
@NNN1 PalmaSailor
I don’t know about Anonymous Reader but that young lad with the hydro electric and stuff had a setback.
His mother died. I can’t give too much detail but she literally fell flat on her face whilst doing something mundane. No notice.
Off like a light switch.
my condolences on your mom dying… that sh^t is happening everywhere… i know of two people personally that just ‘turned off’ like that…
good luck!
@NNN1
and in case that^^^ wasn’t clear… check in when you get a chance and give us an update… we really do care about the men we try to help here…
good luck!
@Warlockk N=20 had a slightly chubby ass. The face and top were not chubby. It’s her body type I guess, although certainly she could be thinner.
The virginity thing I attribute to religious issues / cultural issues.
She did everything except vaginal and was quite bold. I told her I wasn’t wearing underwear on a crowded transport and she went “Then let me in”, put her hand inside my shorts and initiated a hand job. I stopped her before I ejaculated.
Heads up. Just checking in and sanity checking something. I’ve been having unprotected secks with the current Mrs PS out the gate. Since the night of the first date. Ostensibly she told me that she’s been doing what I think is called the rhythm method which is timing the monthly cycle. Despite the fact we’re at it every day and she asks that I pull out when it’s in the danger zone. I do this without any drama. When we discussed this a couple of years ago she said that with my age, assumed reduced sperm count and the fact… Read more »
Palma – yes.
You have plenty of other things on your plate, so this is not worth your time or energy thinking about it is it?
@OTP
To be honest, the other stuff is just shit.
More babies is about the only important thing.
I just think it’s gonna happen so I can basically ignore it.
@PalmaSailor
She means she doesn’t want any more children in the same way all women mean it when they’re not on contraception.
this is the ‘i have a bf’ baby-edition…lol
good luck!
Lol
Yeah she “said it” so it’s on you if it happens…
The old joke, what do they call people using the rhythm method?
Parents
@everyone So N21 was with me for 2 weeks before going back to her city. N3 had a really hard time dealing with the fact that I have N19 not so long ago. I already knew I was heading for trouble with N3 about N21 when she found out, and that she was going to find out. She was always going to figure out something was going on as I’m usually having N3 over or I go to stay at N3’s place more than once a week, and with N21 wanting to come over for two weeks it was more… Read more »
IAS Just know that all of her tears and other acts of manipulation are in service to HER reproductive goals… it’s all by design. Why tears? because men hate tears. Why drama? Because men hate drama. Why cutting off sex? Because men hate losing sex… She has her rolodex for getting exclusivity and she will run it until it fails and she is shown that it fails and she capitulates. The only way to win this game is by being resolute to the service of your goals… She will either get in line or be alpha widowed. https://alphamale20.com/2016/11/21/women-leave-return-several-lsnfte-case-studies/ SPOILER –… Read more »
So I have the final order and it’s bad. Worse than I thought. tl;dr is that I’m bankrupt, though there might be some way out because I probably have a negligence claim against my accountants, and other money could be raised. Given how much shit I’m going through things are good at home. No “problems” with Mrs PS. Etc. I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that the stress must be showing right now but there are ways through and she said yesterday “don’t worry @PS we’ll be ok”. Secks is still at least daily, twice a day at weekends.… Read more »
Just know that all of her tears and other acts of manipulation are in service to HER reproductive goals… it’s all by design. +1000 I’ve got a whole thing on tears in the book. It’s almost unheard of for men to push through those because no one understands what’s going on. I first witnessed it with my mother, relentless, and nothing sorted it. I realised they were fake. Subsequently a girlfriend tried it and I told her “to cut out the ‘teary’ bullshit I wasn’t wearing, and she reminded me of my mother” which she did. She went instantly from… Read more »
Now it comes back to me same thing happened in a social setting some girl was putting them on and I said
“Ugh turn the tears off, no one is wearing it”
And she did but the group was mortified, I mean mortified.
It was worse than what happened when I flicked the wine at that woman a couple of years back.
No one does it. It’s a nuclear shit test.
Crying. Very timely poast from Rian Stone
https://x.com/_rian_stone/status/1694046227241767360?s=61&t=x_q5H44faTrLKW30sF0fjw
Palma, Sorry to hear that. The gang here (the remnants of us that remain..) are around for you to vent and support as we can. IAS Good work. Honestly. You wanted to be an alpha and have more women and more variety in your life and live on your own terms, compared to when you were married? You have that now – and this kind of stuff is part of that. It’s not a failure – it’s a sign of success. This is what women do when you’re a catch. If you really want to have a monogamous girlfriend then… Read more »
@PalmaSailor
sorry to hear about your financial situation… buut…
“Secks is still at least daily, twice a day at weekends.”
priorities… this is still winning…lol… but not kidding…
good luck!
@HABD It’s actually quite surreal. The current Mrs PS says I’m in denial. And she is right but it’s the wrong way around. I was in the denial that I could work it through. I might still be able to. But if I do, it’ll be based on the decision that I’m walking out the door. A bit like turning around a marriage. Mentally, having accepted the worst, the truth is that it’s not the worst, but the other side are now on the back foot because I really might now do it. Then they’re faced with finding and extracting… Read more »
Red pill and financial “problems” As I’ve alluded to it’s serious. I’m not sure at the moment how I’ll get through. There may be a way though – There are a number of ways – it will take some time and a re adjustment of expectations on the other side. Secks is still at least daily, twice at weekends but last week we “argued” (which is a shit test fail) – 3 times in 3 days and he haven’t “argued” in 3 years – or ever. I’ve realised she directly mirrors me. If I’m cool, she’s cool. Since all they… Read more »
/s
Palma, are the anti-depressants and stuff you are taking for strategic reasons or do you actually need them?
If they are not absolutely needed, then I assume you can choose between continuing to work as a sole trader after bankruptcy and paying most of your income towards your debt vs continuing to take the pills and therefore not working and collecting your government welfare payments? Basically won’t it come down to which option leaves you with more cash/better standard of living?
@PalmaSailor Red pill and financial “problems” As I’ve alluded to it’s serious. I’m not sure at the moment how I’ll get through. There may be a way though – There are a number of ways – it will take some time and a re adjustment of expectations on the other side. spoken like someone who is truly wanting to pay back those f^kers that sued you… you are a credit to men everywhere…lol… but not kidding… Secks is still at least daily, twice at weekends but last week we “argued” (which is a shit test fail) – 3 times in… Read more »
Gents
The artful dodger has found a way through and is taking the piss…
😂
Go get em PS
What about this Spanish soccer guy? Rubiales? Seems like the usual MeToo cancellation nonsense, except that he’s not apologized/quit and thus given the mob permission to destroy him completely. I’ve long said that’s the way to deal with this kind of situation – even if you are guilty (which I don’t think this guy was), apologizing only emboldens the mob and makes them pile on even more. The game is to stay defiant and hang on till the mob loses interest and moves on to something else (and even if you fail and have to quit or whatever eventually you… Read more »
@OTP What about this Spanish soccer guy? Rubiales? Seems like the usual MeToo cancellation nonsense, just like it was ripped from one of TRM’s OPs… or FRs…lol except that he’s not apologized/quit and thus given the mob permission to destroy him completely. what he did was worse…lol… he said it was a ‘mistake’… way to downgrade jenni’s SMV…lol.. girls don’t like to be second-placed… if he had said he was sooo excited in the moment (double entendre left hanging…) that he couldn’t help himself… and then own THAT, he would have been fine… once he ‘beta’d up’ (sort of ‘apologized’… Read more »
Great analysis HABD.
I hadn’t realised that he had done a quasi apology first – I was wondering what had changed from the alpha vibe in the bus video to the denunciation two days later and it must have been the apology.
Plus that angle about not putting the girl down is important
@OTP
“Plus that angle about not putting the girl down is important”
ya…he really failed on the ‘aftercare’…lol ..
she asked for another kiss (trying to figure out how to feel about it)… WITH the support of all the ‘fat friends ‘ in the club…lol… and he blows her off…
he should have taken her out for a McMuffin..lol
good luck!
tap tap tap Maybe this thing is on… Brief FR. went to lunch to watch some of the games today. place was packed. I had to stand at the bar, no seats. Anyhow, across the bar ( a big square) there was a very attractive breasty thing, with a dood who was a bald, bearded MMA looking guy. Both in the mid thirties I guess. I thought I saw her look at me a few times, but she never held any gaze or anything like that. Very furtive, almost to the point I wasn’t quite sure… After a while a… Read more »
Sentient – how’s it going? Are you still going out and doing stuff regularly or are FRs like this the exception? I am still as interested as ever, and actually not lacking in time either, but mostly focussing my mental energy on other stuff. But I do have some FRs (not sure if I posted it but I will when I have a bit of time – basically saw a MFF threesome happening in the park with my wife and kids which was hilarious especially my wife being disapproving). Also a few days ago, lengthy airport shuttle ride, felt frozen… Read more »
@Sentient
tap tap tap Maybe this thing is on…
Bandwidth maxed. Probably for about a month.
I’ll be back.
tap tap tap Maybe this thing is on… [Perhaps lol] Brief FR. went to lunch to watch some of the games today. place was packed. I had to stand at the bar, no seats. Anyhow, across the bar ( a big square) there was a very attractive breasty thing, with a dood who was a bald, bearded MMA looking guy. Both in the mid thirties I guess. [I don’t know what it is with these big beards. When I was younger they were an indication of a “weak man” hiding. That’s how they were always regarded by most men who… Read more »
How’s commenting looking here now?
@Sentient well done.
@Palma I’m checking it once in a while. I don’t have much to report right now and I’ll be very busy with work for a few weeks. I’ll give some updates after.
I’m around. Usually glance here (almost) every day, but preoccupied with crypto work stuff and occasionally seeing a couple of side chicks. Not so much that I don’t have the time for Game, more don’t have the mental energy right now, but will do when work and family things start easing off.
I had 5-6 years when I hyperfocussed on Game (when travelling, but I travelled a LOT) – the last few years have been the flip side of that (and the pandemic didn’t help). But I’ll be back to the cold approach for sure.
My ears are still on even if my mouth isn’t running.
Mini FR – mainly because this is kind of a new situation (and I’m out of practice) and I’m not sure how to play it. Sounds like the kind of situation Sentient is in all the time. Sitting outside a coffee shop in the sun with my wife and daughter. Attractive woman, about 30, sitting with her daughter right beside us. She asks my daughter if she wants to play with her daughter, and my daughter does and then she strikes up a conversation with me and my wife. Turns out she lives relatively close to us (not near the… Read more »
@otp
https://www.google.com/search?q=squisn+like+grape&client=safari&sca_esv=569384727&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=KnUWZcyQLty_xc8PtY-duAM&oq=squisn+like+grape&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCIRc3F1aXNuIGxpa2UgZ3JhcGUyBxAAGA0YgAQyBxAAGA0YgAQyBxAAGA0YgAQyBxAAGA0YgAQyBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yCBAAGIoFGIYDSIouUMoKWMoncAF4AJABAJgB8QGgAYQZqgEGMC4xMi41uAEDyAEA-AEBqAIPwgIKEAAYAxiPARjqAsICChAuGAMYjwEY6gLCAhEQLhiDARivARjHARixAxiKBcICERAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGMcBGNEDwgILEC4YigUYsQMYgwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxjHARjRA8ICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgILEC4YgwEYsQMYgATCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIFEAAYgATCAggQABiABBixA8ICDRAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGArCAgoQABiABBixAxgKwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICCRAAGA0YgAQYCsICChAAGA0YgAQYsQPCAg0QLhgNGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIHEC4YDRiABMICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgIIEAAYFhgeGArCAggQABgeGA0YD8ICCBAAGAUYHhgNwgIIEAAYCBgeGA0&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:cefb8623,vid:Y3lQSxNdr3c,st:0
That is deep and good advice Palma.
Otp
Since you are never going to do anything with a woman like this you just want some light dread.
Turn your flirt factor down to 6.5. Just enough being playful. You want no evidence of trying, you want her engaging you. Once she does a few giggles and kino to you that will be enough.
You want to be able to shrug later when your wife brings it up like “who? Wha? I’m just a sexy beast I guess….”
@OTP I love ya man, but that’s the second poast you’ve done, and I don’t know what you’re doing. You either do, or you don’t or you will get squish like grape.. I’m certain. I don’t think you’ve got a direction, or an objective. I think you need to decide because if you go “half on” in front of your wife without a specific agenda or direction or objective her heads gonna blow up and the whole thing will be counterproductive. You could do what @Sentient said ^^^ but do you need more dread? Do you want a 3 some….?… Read more »
This is required reading and watching.
The deepstate are trying to shut down anyone that “offends” them.
TLDR some guy wrote a book on men and got on a show and some woman belittled male suicide.
Laurence Fox called it out and asked why couldn’t she STFU and just accept it’s a male problem.
Anyway they’re trying to not only shut him down but also the whole news channel.
Similar with Russell Brand who has had epar allegations dragged up from years back.
I am beginning to feel a pushback and I am beginning to think they’re scared.
https://rumble.com/v3lz72d-emergency-meeting-episode-19-.html
His real crime was to say that he wouldn’t fuck her.
And how no man with any options would want to be with such a woman.
So he zeroed out her only real agency. Her sole agency. And they’ve gone berserk.