Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

@PalmaSailor [With a heavy heart I have to confirm that old friend is the BB. And she’s keeping him in her orbit, he isn’t keeping her in his. She is an alpha widow, but that’s some guy from EE in the past. He died when she was pregnant with his baby, then she lost the baby.] that explains a lot…lol… she is still trying to find an AF stud that is ‘more’ than the memory… which is gonna be almost impossible (and especially given an idealized memory… as well as the current state of ‘men’…lol)… and it’s gonna be hard… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient Lost the interest in writing FRs now that the board is just us… Muh.. so you don’t love me anymore… pout… Actually there’s about 20 people here. So the 4-5 regulars plus 15 or so regular lurkers. Speaking completely for myself, I need to keep it up. I now need tighter game. It’s not that difficult now actually. Shit tests from the current Mrs PS do come in “batches” but they’re very few and far between now. Mostly it’s subconscious and they’re batted off reflexively, and that’s mainly by never taking her seriously, overtly looking at other women, and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Palma And I honestly don’t even think that was conscious. It wasn’t of course. [Note] Thought – you banging EeGF might have been the event that broke OF and permanently red 💊 him… 😒 [Note – so I was out at a bar with some work colleagues, mixed group. Around 10. Hotel lobby. There was one attractive woman alone at the bar, working her phone with a glass of wine. My group was fascinated, the guy thinking she was an escort, because only escort would do that. I pointed out her shoes, which were far too plain for that work.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago
PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

Really interesting conversation today in the van with grasshopper, that’s my “lad” who is 23 and has just had a baybee with his gf. She got him pregnant and he loves it. He’s alpha but she might just beat that out of him and I’m working on stopping that. He used to be a gamekeeper. Not sure you have an equivalent over the pond, but one of these blokes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamekeepers_in_the_United_Kingdom Anyway at the moment the current PS empire extends to him and me in one Toyota van (don’t smirk, it’s a straight 4 cylinder delivering 150hp of turbocharged brute force!!)… Read more »

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Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Palma

The guard dog spin up is relatively recent phenomenon, evolutionarily speaking, seems back before WW2 women getting spanked for being out of line was common enough to be a meme of the era.
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PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient

So far, since I’ve been aware of it! I’ve never met a woman that doesn’t LOVE being spanked.

Realistically he last decade. All of them loved it.

NNN1
NNN1
4 months ago

Next party report, It was Thursday again, which means the on-campus party barn opens. First I was deterred a bit, after I just disliked it last time and then got locked down a week ’cause Covid. So I started the evening with a little BBQ on the rooftop, my (female) roommate had invited three friends of hers, who went to the barn straight at 7. After the BBQ I did a small flambé, very nice – and off we went to the barn. There were way less people there this time, they had a small outdoor area and was just… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Nnn1 I just need to get another idea for more kino routines. I think Kino needs to be way tighter at this club-like venue This merits a long response, which will have to wait. First, kino is a great club in the bag but it’s not magic. There is a tendency as you develop your game to seize on whatever worked last as the new thing, the ticket. So develop the skill but develop it to fully understand the when why and how. Homework – go find and post the Gambler aka Richard La Ruina kino videos, and the intro… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@NNN1 Next party report, It was Thursday again, which means the on-campus party barn opens. First I was deterred a bit, after I just disliked it last time and then got locked down a week ’cause Covid. environment is import but controlling your feelings about disliking your environment is a useful skill and can be done in your head. You can change your approach to liking the positives about it which is useful if you end up forced into sub optimal living conditions. Save you from a nervous breakdown if shit goes badly against you. I was at Luton airport… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
4 months ago

I get the idea of the game, gonna do it right when she’s here again. Why small??? Lol… you don’t get big emotional spikes with small flames… the flames itself were quite big, actually the biggest and longest lasting flame I got here (we only got electro here, thus it does not work that perfect) – realized you really need to shake the pan to maximize alc evaporation. Plus I didn’t provide the ressources, everyone brougth some food, charcoal, strawberry, beer, etc. so I only brought one yoghurt, table spoon of sugar, flambé alcohol and mustard for the salad sauce… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Nnn1

Also it was a 2-set, which means in any way I would have had to take more care of the logistics to get the fat one handled

This is part of why Mystery merges sets…

But even if you don’t merge, if you prove to fug that you are a cool guy she will support her friend banging you. DHV yo! Just sort the logistics upfront, like you are doing right? I.e. if girl brought fug and is her ride etc.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

NNN1
1 day ago

Sentient
6 hours ago

PalmaSailor
5 hours ago

NNN1
1 hour ago

Sentient
11 minutes ago

@NNN1

You’re a good lad, but you need to spend more time reading what we’ve written than we did writing it. And I spent at least 4 hours, don’t know what @Sentient spent. Less I suspect, but I also suspect he’ll reply in more detail at great time cost when he can.

On that basis you’re not going to be qualified to comment having properly consumed what’s been said before beer o’clock Sunday PM…

Good luck on Monday night!

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

I have to say great response upthread Palma, with the open ended questions.. if not for the absence of 100 “lol’s” I thought it might be HABD.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

Sentient PalmaSailor

“I have to say great response upthread Palma, with the open ended questions.. if not for the absence of 100 “lol’s” I thought it might be HABD.”

+1…

that was really good…

NNN1

you really do need to contemplate the advice and understand how it gets put into play… that bar girl would have banged you in the back room… IF you could have worked out that path to daylight…

good luck!

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

download before they are gone!!!!

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago
Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

[disclaimer – this one is ok but there is a better one out there, where he is seated in a booth and demonstrates some kino gambits]

lol these are 2014…

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago
PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

So sort of update Poland and Bulgaria have actually stopped paying for their gas and so Russia has shut them off. Plus I think Norway has decided not to buy. Though for them I’m not sure it matters. Bc the pipeline goes through Poland to Germany, and Russia doesn’t actually have control of the polish “tap” that means that they can’t physically turn off Poland so instead they have reduced the volume going into the pipe by the equivalent of Polands useage. That means if Poland continue to pull from the pipe before it gets to Germany the ongoing volumes… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Palma

The obvious book is “How a short fat twice divorced 50 yo married a 25 yo EE hottie”…

A continuation of the first tome.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

^^ lol…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient I appreciate you pitching in.. I’ve spent all day thinking about writing a book along the lines you’ve suggested. And bottom line – I don’t want to. It’s a funny thing, I’ve taken a lot from this space and if someone walks in here I’m quite happy to try to do what I can. It’s not one sided – I take from that as well. But – In doing that in here I tend to give quite a lot of myself away. And that’s ok in the 1:1 context. However, on a bigger scale I’m not sure that the… Read more »

IAS
IAS
4 months ago

@NNN1: The sport in question has more females than males (at least in the West). As most sports, it has a potential for kino. But really, it’s not so much about the sport. It is something that provides me an opportunity to get proximity to interesting targets, DHV, and give plausible deniability for meeting up, all while doing something that I like so I’m not bothered if I can’t close them. You have pretty much all of that right at your campus. Get to work! I suspect that if you are able to set yourself up correctly, your female roommate… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

@NNN1 and @IAS are the only candidates I can think of. Frankly a minute percentage of the chumps who set foot in here have the stones to do the work. Most don’t deserve the effort that the rest of us put in to even reply to their bleating. So – that part of my life belongs to me. I’m not gonna sell it to the unwashed for a shitty £9.99 I hear you. I’m hoping that Rollo’s new book is going to bring around some new guys, fuck even some trolls… I hear he was doing something with the blog… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Boom… of course this was obvious to regular commentators.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/live-updates/casey-cole-white-vicky-white-alabama-escape-warrant-issued/#app

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

he’s fucked off and stopped doing them Yeah. If you look at it, I met @IAS in the PRG which meant him flying over from Narnia on a magic carpet and that was over 4 years ago. And he did the work, and got it licked. He’s shooting them like fish in a barrel now. @NNN1 is a work in progress, and will shoot them like fish in a barrel when he gets it together IF he sticks with it. The sub comms from that barmaid hugging… @HABD was right (when is he not? Lol) and yeah, @NNN1 could have… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

NNN1 As a big fan of kino, you are on the right track – BUT – it’s still not a short cut or magik. Here is what good kino will do 1. kino = comfort 2. kino /= arousal [what most guys think] 3. Conveys that you are "not like other guys", a bright line. Comfort is the key. When you can demonstrate with your touch that you are familiar with her, and leading, it feels safe. “Boyfriend posture” is the zone you want to be in. Just imiagine you’ve been dating her for four months, you’d have no issues… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago
OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

@IAS – I think this is a great time for you to think about your sort of Game plans so to speak. You’re in a great place and you know enough Game to protect yourself and not mess yourself up (although it will be interesting to see what happens when you meet a woman you have a real connection and chemistry with and you really like). So actually you could just stay in cruise control and there’s nothing wrong with that. Or you could go full YaReally mode and treat it like your hobby and optimize it fully and try… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

Okay I have now saved and archived all the videos Sentient linked (and I already had some of them). I have been looking for the Liam McRae video YaReally used to recommend a lot but sadly that appears to have vanished. What I did find though, is the Gambler/La Ruina long video that YaReally used to recommend for escalation/laser/eye contact. He usually posted a clip from it, but the whole thing is available on YouTube. I don’t want to post a link because they keep going to mod but if you search for “LaRuina Formula for Night Game”, you will… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

Oh btw, Gambler’s YouTube channel has a video called My Last YouTube Video from about a year ago saying he’s not going to be making any more videos, because he’s said everything he wants to say over a decade and his videos and books contain all his advice and he doesn’t want to keep saying the same thing in a hundred different ways just to optimize for the YouTube algorithm wanting new content and maximizing clicks etc.

He seems to have branched out into gamifying seduction (lol) and has a series of pickup based video games..

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

Interesting… Russian media It’s not just the oil and gas that Russia are key in supplying in volume to the world market.. Министр энергетики США Дженнифер Грэнхолм – на вопрос «Собирается ли Байден запретить импорт российского урана, который используется в американской энергетике, чтобы Россия не получала американские деньги?»: На данном этапе мы сходимся во мнении: нам не следует перечислять какие-либо деньги России за энергоносители или за что-либо еще. Мое министерство разрабатывает крупномасштабную стратегию, которая позволит США обеспечить стабильный приток стратегического урана без привлечения России. US Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm – to the question “Is Biden going to ban the… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

PalmaSailor

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-working-uranium-strategy-should-not-import-russia-granholm-2022-05-05/

and the main exporters are Russian allies…lol

can you say uranium 1?…lol

good luck!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@HABD It gets more interesting https://mronline.org/2022/04/16/russias-sergey-glazyev-introduces-the-new-global-financial-system/ Glazyev: Transition to the new world economic order will likely be accompanied by systematic refusal to honor obligations in dollars, euro, pound, and yen. In any case, participation in the new economic system will not be constrained by the obligations in the old one. Countries of the Global South can be full participants of the new system regardless of their accumulated debts in dollars, euro, pound, and yen. Even if they were to default on their obligations in those currencies, this would have no bearing on their credit rating in the new financial system.… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@HABD It really does look like a perfect storm. When you look at it the east, Russia, Jyna, and to an extent India have all the resources. Whether those be raw materials or available labour. But bc they’ve (been) developing they’ve been forced to go along with the western Monopoly money game. Bc that was the only game in town and that’s what the customers wanted. What the west haven’t realised is, that balance of power has flipped. Dramatically and across every product that really matters. Certainly in terms of Russia, Bc of the western Monopoly money game they’ve found… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
4 months ago

Thanks to all for the resources and advice. It will definitely take time to (seriously) go through it but even more time to enhance the mental model derived from it working to the point I want. For example the KINO serious – I’ve already watched part of it last year, yet be sure I didn’t really remember more that half of it so I definitely benefit from re-watching. In the meantime and for compliance my this-weeks report: I met D. on Monday evening. Just told her on Sunday I’d need her to bring some strawberries. Then on Monday asked her… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

@NNN1 – don’t worry about it. There’s no deadline you have to meet – you just have to keep taking consistent action (and reflecting on it with field reports here) and before you know it you’ll be good. You’re doing both those things so just keep it up and don’t worry too much about individual days – it’s all about the process. I could say a lot about the sexualization and why it failed (it used to be the weakest part of my game and now it is the strongest) but I don’t want to pile on even more theory… Read more »

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

Btw NNN1 – I can’t remember the circumstances in which you invited D home, but she should not have been genuinely surprised she was alone with you. Pretend surprise but she’s actually happy is fine. The vibe you are looking for is almost like you are pretending to invite her for a party but you both know the real reason. Kind of like when a girl asks you into her place coffee after a date – you both know it’s not for coffee. Having said that it’s a very good sign that she still stayed alone with you and had… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@NNN1 Thanks to all for the resources and advice. It will definitely take time to (seriously) go through it but even more time to enhance the mental model derived from it working to the point I want. My gut feeling is actually you need more field experience. For example the KINO serious – I’ve already watched part of it last year, yet be sure I didn’t really remember more that half of it so I definitely benefit from re-watching. Yeah ok. But I’m not sure that is your blind spot. In the meantime and for compliance my this-weeks report: I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@NNN1 So on the subject of pushing socially acceptable conversations here’s a field report. My failure here is a big regret. I’ll never know how it would have played. About 7-8 years ago I was on a train to London. This women, 35, leather trousers, solid HB8-8.5 and she has a load of luggage, suitcases, “stroller?” Etc.. and a daughter. Daughter about 5. All the men are looking at leather girl. She’s fucking hot. So we get to the stop. Marylebone central London and she can’t get all her shit together and carry it. So I ask if I can… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

@PalmaSailor @HABD It gets more interesting https://mronline.org/2022/04/16/russias-sergey-glazyev-introduces-the-new-global-financial-system/ Glazyev: Transition to the new world economic order will likely be accompanied by systematic refusal to honor obligations in dollars, euro, pound, and yen. In any case, participation in the new economic system will not be constrained by the obligations in the old one. Countries of the Global South can be full participants of the new system regardless of their accumulated debts in dollars, euro, pound, and yen. Even if they were to default on their obligations in those currencies, this would have no bearing on their credit rating in the new financial… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

@PalmaSailor @HABD It really does look like a perfect storm. with all the back stage coordination, how could it not?…lol GLOBAL famine… THIS summer (to start…)… expect the hammer to drop HARD this fall (october)… = energy AND food ‘out of stock’ for 90% of global pop… as we head into colder weather… When you look at it the east, Russia, Jyna, and to an extent India have all the resources. Whether those be raw materials or available labour. the us has almost as much, but the deep staters have taken that off the table with ‘regulations’… But bc they’ve… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Well, Kevin Samuels is dead.

https://people.com/human-interest/controversial-youtube-personality-kevin-samuels-dead/

I liked Kevin, thought he had a good message.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient

I liked Kevin Samuels as well. I don’t know pragmatically whether calling women out the way he did actually did anything for the women, but it definitely made the men who were watching think twice.

He said stuff that men don’t think they can say.

So RIP

I hope the rumours are true that he checked out whilst banging a nurse that was 20 years younger…

If you’re gonna check out that’s the way to go..

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Heh Palma, you got a shout out on Rollo’s weekend show, he says he’s coming back to blogging…

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient If you’re referring to the show last night, then I did a couple of super chats and he replied to those. I didn’t hang on til the end bc it was midnight here and I was working early today but if he discussed more later then I’ll re listen to the last bit of the show. If it was something else – you got a link? He was covering all sorts of stuff as usual inc the Kevin shit show.. sometimes it comes across that @Rollo is single handedly taking on the machine.. it certainly affects him, you can… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

PALMA!!! Congrats my man and best of luck. Will be exciting… 🏆🎯🕶

You’re ex is going to lose it… 😆 will be interesting to see how you son handles the news. Could be good, maybe bring him back to the fold.

Re shout out- It was in the middle of the show yesterday. That was about it. He said with no new books he’s going back to blog writing and he thanked you and the FR crew for keeping thins from dying.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

@PalmaSailor

Very early days – too early really but the current Mrs PS is pregnant.

congratulations!!!!!….

and good luck!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient / HABD Thanks.. You’re ex is going to lose it… 😆 Well she isn’t going to find out any time soon. There are too many hoops to jump through. The ex would love to see me fail at jumping through any of those. Mrs PS still hasn’t got a visa to get into the country apart from anything else. If I had her in the country and we’d got through the second trimester then I might say something. But that’s not where we’re at. The whole outlook is very uncertain. Best case I get her in here (which should… Read more »

Tony W Arnold
4 months ago

A woman about half my age began flirt-texting me this past weekend, and we chatted periodically over the next three days. No phone call, no meet-up, no nothing else but by the end of day 2, she’d asked me if I thought we had a future. I replied, “You mean as a planet, a nation, or as friends?” Her reply was: “As a family.”

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

Palma – Congratulations!! Welcome back to the late nights and baby changes!

What’s a “super chat” with Rollo?

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

@Tony W Arnold – welcome to the FR section on TRM. Tell us more about you, and your age and background as well as this woman and what you want from her (no personally identifying details is best)

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@OTP

When he does his podcasts love on YouTube you can chat in the comments box and you can make a donation. However much you want. So you can ask questions / talk to him in real time.

sentient
sentient
4 months ago

Tony Arnold

“Adoption would be a little weird…”

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

The return of DT girl… i know I said I wasn’t posting FR’s anymore, but this is a five year saga ” https://therationalmale.com/2016/09/25/for-better-or-worse/comment-page-9/#comment-171878 ” So I’m paying for a coffee and turn around and there she is in line one person back from me. I didn’t recognize her at first, she looked so young and fit, in workout gear, which I’ve never seen her in. She looked almost 10 years younger and maybe 15 pounds lighter than when i saw her during covid. I wasn’t quite sure at first it was her lol. I said “You look like someone I… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient She the one that needed help putting her bed together? You standing up at this place? “Back counter” that’s a sort of bar with stools or something? Her 50 feet away with her back to your side? Doesn’t sound like you’re sitting down at a low table? Are there any low tables? Or is it standing / perching / get your coffee and go type place? Tired of this five year cat and mouse, I just say “so, let’s get a drink one night” Ahhhh. Bat to the fence huh?. I expect some kind of excuse. Yeah.. well.. it’s… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Palma

Yeah that’s the one, bed, house issues and car walk. I was sitting at a counter on one end, she was at a counter on the opposite end.

Ahhhh. Bat to the fence huh?.

I thought of you… We will see, this coffee shop thing isn’t going to work, logistically.

NNN1
NNN1
4 months ago

Micro Report: TL;DR, the important thing is the gambit So yesterday I went to a frat-party on Campus (although I’m really uncertain if Frats are the same here and there). On site, at half past eight there were only few people, all standing in groups and most the women reasonably unattractive. Yet I was there with my homies, one of which a solid 8 attractive young woman – who brought there flatmate, 8 to 9 maybe 23 y.o. girl. Not before 10 or 10:30 the party was terribly lame and everybody was standing outside the house, chatting and somehow everyone… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

Micro Report: TL;DR, the important thing is the gambit Important you got out. So yesterday I went to a frat-party on Campus (although I’m really uncertain if Frats are the same here and there). Neither am I On site, at half past eight there were only few people, all standing in groups and most the women reasonably unattractive. Doesn’t matter, you need to work on those anyway, plus you need practice. 
Yet I was there with my homies, one of which a solid 8 attractive young woman – who brought there flatmate, 8 to 9 maybe 23 y.o. girl. 
Not… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@NNN1

who brought there flatmate, 8 to 9 maybe 23 y.o. girl.

Separate question, what happened to this girl ^^

My money – she went home alone and frustrated… tell me different…

Imagine having those looks, that power, but is it power? If no chump can bust a move.

Did anyone bust a move..?

I’ll bet not.

Why am I married to a hit slim intelligent 26 yo, when I’m 54? Serious question…

Last edited 4 months ago by PalmaSailor
NNN1
NNN1
4 months ago

Separate question, what happened to this girl ^^ My money – she went home alone and frustrated… tell me different… Honestly, I’d love to tell you a great story of why it was not possible to get her because of x/y/z and then a/b/c or d/e/f but be sure truth likely is she felt attraction and was somehow dtf. And the only reason I didn’t go further was missing balls. And that’s one of the life lessons I’ve learned not only but also through this journey: you could master one aspect of a project but it’s useless when another aspect… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

NNN1 You should feel good you are taking action, in field… every interaction is a chance to learn and develop and go into the next one with that knowledge. So don’t beat yourself up. Take the lessons, apply the lessons next time. Well, I followed that – and that probably killed it – with that I could draw different explanations which are all true, like “all my family has their PhDs and professorship” and that I always wanted to do it. Looking back it might have seemed incongruent and shortly after they walked off. To be more precise, the girl… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

And now… The DT saga comes to a close, not with a BANG but with a whimper… 🙁

I text her at 7:30PM – “Free tonight?” She texts back within 10 minutes “Hey Sentient!! I’m sorry I really shouldn’t have given you my number. I’m in a relationship.” I text back “OK you take care”.

end scene…

Lazy, anti game, flat, terrible… but tbh i was kind of relieved to put it behind, especially having had some too close entanglements.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@NNN1 Separate question, what happened to this girl ^^ My money – she went home alone and frustrated… tell me different… Honestly, I’d love to tell you a great story of why it was not possible to get her because of x/y/z and then a/b/c or d/e/f but be sure truth likely is she felt attraction and was somehow dtf. If you’re getting the IOI’s then you’re getting the IOI’s. 
And the only reason I didn’t go further was missing balls. And that’s one of the life lessons I’ve learned not only but also through this journey: you could master… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

@NNN1 PalmaSailor

+1 on Palma’s advice…

you’re doing great… just keep playing and you’ll get there very soon…

here’s one thing you can try… try interacting with sets without making any logical response… ya, just like it sounds…lol… keep it fun…

good luck!

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

NNN1 Sentient

+1 on Sentient’s advice…

“Lazy, anti game, flat, terrible… but tbh i was kind of relieved to put it behind, especially having had some too close entanglements.”

lol… but you learned a LOT from just this one situ/girl… and props for taking action!… and putting up the play by play for analysis…

FRs don’t just write themselves…lol

did you at least think about trying to turn it around and keep playing?…lol

good luck!

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

HABD

did you at least think about trying to turn it around and keep playing?…lol

Yeah like 10 minutes later… 🙄

if I see her out again I’ll engage.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Sentient

At one point in the journey I wasn’t finding it much fun.

You pointed out to me that it had to be fun.

Lot of shit lately, not much it’s fun…

A bit of a mental reset and it will be fun again.

Ryan
Ryan
4 months ago

OK. I finally get it. Listened to TRM twice on Audible. Only problem is I got crushed at an older age. I lost my mother (number one support female) to death 10 years ago and then a few years later my relationship of 25 years. She was 15 years younger which I liked. However, now my smv is highly reduced as I am in my early 70’s and looking at nothing but elderly, very unattractive women either via internet or referral and I am just not interested as there is seemingly no upside and so far no spark. I am… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Ryan Welcome, welcome. Let’s clean up a few things first Apx N count, number of “relatioships”, how long were you married? *I stay in pretty good shape. I am quite intellectual. Own a manufacturing business that has good prospects, not retired. Not the richest guy but not the poorest guy either. Decent looking clean elderly guy. Have a couple of health issues that are manageable but prevent me from debauching and have made good health a more conscious concern. Older age has slowed me a few steps,. * Good shape? Height and weight. Muscle mass? Waist and chest dimensions? Intellectual?… Read more »

Ryan
Ryan
4 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

OK so here we go. Thanks. Ryan Welcome, welcome. Let’s clean up a few things first Apx N count, number of “relatioships”, how long were you married? ….2 year courtship and 6 years of marriage no kids and then in a non married LTR for 25 years. A libertine in the 60s, 70s and 80s.. well over 100 women all prior to aids. then serial monogamy afterwards. *I stay in pretty good shape. I am quite intellectual. Own a manufacturing business that has good prospects, not retired. Not the richest guy but not the poorest guy either. Decent looking clean… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Ryan Congratulations on finding the right place. There are a few in here who could pick this up and guide it. You’re in a very difficult spot. At your age / wealth you will be mobbed, and I mean mobbed by provider hunting age appropriate women who desperately need their bills paid. It won’t always look that way, but scratch the surface and they’ll be broke. If you go for anything within 20 years it’ll seem like shooting fish in a barrel and you’ll get wiped out. If you don’t want to get caught up in that then the average… Read more »

Ryan
Ryan
4 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need […] @Ryan Congratulations on finding the right place. There are a few in here who could pick this up and guide it. You’re in a very difficult spot. At your age / wealth you will be mobbed, and I mean mobbed by provider hunting age… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

^^ just seen @Sentients poast

Ignore any duplications . He can run with this to save confusion..

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Ryan

Notwithstanding the above, read the thread and just what’s apped me to suggest getting your T levels checked.

Said the way you’re commenting would indicate it could be too low

Last edited 4 months ago by PalmaSailor
Ryan
Ryan
4 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Yeah I asked my primary doc about getting T script he said it might not be a good idea with the tendency to AFib so once again there I am boxed in. I could get it but I’d be taking a chance.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

Having said I’d leave it to @Sentient I’ll pick up this bit because I’ve done this journey and I don’t know if he has. Quite aside from the other journey you’ll have to move in, you have a weight loss journey you’ll need to complete if you want to be able to get hold of significantly younger women on the basis of genuine desire. I had cholesterol, blood pressure, stomach ulcer, hernia, bad back, (suspect low T – I didn’t have it tested) but I definitely had low sperm count and low sperm mobility – which was tested. At 5’5”… Read more »

Ryan
Ryan
4 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Thanks much for the red pill advice.Well, I am already off of sugar. Use stevia only.I have reduced carbs but not enough. My main challenge is late night snacking. I think losing 65 lbs. might be too much. But even 20 would make me feel great. I tend to lose pretty fast if I can get aerobic like BB. But my tendinitis tends to flare up when I do. (elder age challenges) However the orthotics help a lot. (especially the custom cast orthotics not the off the shelf ones). But I totally agree that losing weight would be a major… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Ryan Being 70 is the key issue here, I mean, we’ll have to hit everything all at once, concurrently. This is a year or two project, so don’t waste time. You have a huge leg up, with your experience with women. Need to just keep killing those blue pill demons. Keys to progress… 1) health and fitness 2) Outer Game 3) Game 4) red Pill knowledge 5) Proximity to target female demographic 1) Palma is dead on with the weight. It’s time to take a no holds bar look at things and get that sorted. At least 20lbs overweight is… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

Maybe it’s time for SJF and Rollo to bury the hatchet?

OldTimePoster
OldTimePoster
4 months ago

Not fully caught up with all this yet, but only one quick question for Sentient now – why text to ask DT girl to meet up? Not possible to arrange logistics to happen as a follow on from coffee shop or whatever?

Sentient
Sentient
4 months ago

OTP

She’s taking a course and work, that’s why logistics didn’t get firmed up in situ and she asked if I still had her number, gave it to me anew, and we left it for the weekend. And I texted Thursday as I was then free.

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

@PalmaSailor

india might not be the best place to move to after all…

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/india-halts-wheat-exports-food-security-risk

although they do seem to be willing to put their people first…. unlike the us .gov fkers…lol… but that’s probly cuz they have more experience with pssed off constituents than the corrupt pols in us .gov…lol… and that’s even without guns over there…

but things are gonna get tighter everywhere…

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/wheat-farmland-under-threat-worldwide-usda-reveals-dismal-grain-outlook

good luck!

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Ryan I’ve got to ask what your objectives are? I’m looking at it from here and at 6’ and 225 you’re a BMI of 30. I’ve double checked and that’s where it is. If I’ve got that wrong then say so. But if I’m not wrong then losing 20 isn’t gonna cut it, and you need to lose a full third of your body weight. And stevia, or anything along those lines isn’t gonna cut it. But it just illustrates how far you are away from understanding how much trouble you’re in. So I repeat no processed food. Just for… Read more »

Ryan
Ryan
4 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Thanks for the wake up call. What I have gotten out of al this is the following. I have to work on myself. Not only physically with diet and exercise etc. But also in self confidence with getting back into the game. So it is a real challenge here. 1. Run my business and make $$. 2. Upgrade myself and my living space for entertainment. 3. Read up on current game. (can you get some recommended info on this ..books etc.) 4. Take time to deal with health issues while boosting metabolism. 5. All in all…Get my smv up so… Read more »

Ryan
Ryan
4 months ago
Reply to  PalmaSailor

Follow up. What am I trying to achieve?
Build the company up to sell and then retire.
Keep healthy and fit.
Get some mojo back and dust off my game.
Expand my choices in women.
Enhance my enjoyment of life independent of women.
Stay connected in Faith.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@Ryan

@Sentient gave you a reading list. How’s that going?

I guess it’s all about doing the work now.

Have you started?

If so, what?

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

food… and ammo… (if you can… otherwise, alt defense/offense methods are strongly encouraged… maybe a pitchfork and some torches…like those dudes in sri lanka are gathering…lol) https://michaelyon.com/dispatches/canaries-twitching-yemen-sri-lanka-lebanonmany-more/ (ps. his paradigm is accurate…) https://michaelyon.com/dispatches/the-bell-tolls-and-checkmate-for-sri-lanka/ (and follow the link… lots of interesting info there…) just one more step along the path… Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
4 months ago

@HABD Yeah. Probably not the best time to be a nomad in the Balkans, with nothing but a pocket full of paper with ink on it, and a couple of bits of plastic that purport to give me access to numbers on a computer somewhere – that are supposed to represent something I can exchange for food etc… Old friend called over the weekend – new girlfriend has yet again walked out. We had quite a long call. Included in the conversation was me referring to his observation – he has frequently said over the phone past few years that… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
4 months ago

@PalmaSailor @HABD Yeah. Probably not the best time to be a nomad in the Balkans, with nothing but a pocket full of paper with ink on it, and a couple of bits of plastic that purport to give me access to numbers on a computer somewhere – that are supposed to represent something I can exchange for food etc… ya, and that whole famine post seemed to be a thread killer…lol… looks like it’s starting to sink in… still not tooo late… Old friend called over the weekend – new girlfriend has yet again walked out. We had quite a… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
3 months ago

@HABD Loads of interesting things happening globally, but as far as we’re concerned, it’s baked in I think. As far as killing the thread is concerned = if you wanna kill wood, there’s either the pregnant bill gates emoji, or catching up on this stuff… lol First the RD says that most people in the former Soviet Union had storage under their houses, and also a cat to deal with rodents etc.. (that’s where they had a house as opposed to a soviet apartment) The country did produce plenty of grain but they exported most of it so the people… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 months ago

Palma sailor

“Moscow has just reversed and is refunding all COVID mask penalties that were issued. That’s political backtracking. For what purpose? Obv. Popularity..”

also the big FU to the ‘covid’ purveyors… bc “all those masks really did nothing”…lol

good luck!

Sentient
Sentient
3 months ago

All right doom and gloomers… let’s talk about something important! [GGR homage] Anyhow. Waiting on an outbound flight at the gate. Tight little Asian thing sitting one seat over on her phone. See doll body, D cups. There is a early 20s guy sitting next to her. She’s going on and on facetiming somebody. Strange language. Eventually she finishes. After a while sitting and waiting there is some announcement and we look at each other. I use this opportunity to open. Ask her about that weird language and it’s mongolian ffs. Had some Russian accents. Ask her to teach me… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
3 months ago

All right doom and gloomers… let’s talk about something important! Yop good idea… where is @NNN1 when you need him?! Lol [GGR homage] Sorry it’s prob obvious but I’m missing this ^^ Anyhow. Waiting on an outbound flight at the gate. Tight little Asian thing sitting one seat over on her phone. See doll body, D cups. Nice There is a early 20s guy sitting next to her. She’s going on and on facetyyiming somebody. Strange language. Eventually she finishes. After a while sitting and waiting there is some announcement and we look at each other. Obv you we’re on… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
3 months ago

Palma GGR is Glengarry Glenn Ross, the “coffee’s for closers” speech. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3PESuwYcK04 Which is an ethos all its own, and applicable to game, life… I once did a breakdown of the transcript for Teh Playa Formerly Known as Culum Struan… with pics… in a game context. It’s back in the FR pages… Anyhow, eh… it was before 8 AM, in a terminal, before a flight so not much could have happened but for a destination meet. And her kid was there. And despite being 20, he was anything but grown, as you might imagine. The Thunder guys were literally part… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
3 months ago

@Rollo Interesting. There is the big scream in the FI that “sperm goes off as well” and together with that comes tests and studies where “the men are older”. Along with that comes the studies which definitely – and I mean definitely confirms the above because there is an increased likelihood of problems if the father is “older”. So it’s gotta be him right. Right! Following pregnancy diagnosis, First there is a cheap test, and following that there is the non invasive NIPT which is the non invasive pre natal test which takes the blood of the mother which contains… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by PalmaSailor
Sentient
Sentient
3 months ago

Every old guy I know has a kid with the new wife. I’ve no doubt it’s women not men.

Hell look at the celebs in their 70s, like Tony Randall.

Cheers Palma 🍻

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
3 months ago

@HABD

I’ve used your “hand on the shoulder” twice today so let me know where to send the royalty cheque.. and no, I can’t send it in food or bullets, customs have got a stick up their arse about that stuff..

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 months ago

@PalmaSailor

“@HABD

I’ve used your “hand on the shoulder” twice today so let me know where to send the royalty cheque.. and no, I can’t send it in food or bullets, customs have got a stick up their arse about that stuff..”

lol…

use that royalty munny to buy a good portable water filter for your new family…

no i’m not kidding… and sooner rather than later… think about getting water with no electric for the pumps/processing…

good luck!

stuffinbox
3 months ago

@HABD Pregers need reassurance , hard to do when the split personality kicks in. It is as if the childs personality takes over the moms from the womb. Good man required to bring life into world. Pro tip on water Rural wells are marked by 6″ steel tube with blue cast iron cap , 4 hold down bolts easily removed w/ adjustable wrench. Now take handy fishing pole, lOL I know I know Attach length og 3/4 pipe to end of line (10 lb test or better) lower pipe into well (depending on pipe length needs weight to offset water… Read more »

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
3 months ago

@HABD Thanks for your generosity however I’m still “travelling” in the Balkans because we’re waiting visa approval for the U.K. The way things are she may not get a visa and it’ll get really interesting. As I think I’ve intimated I have one small hand luggage rucksack of stuff to my name right now, and so does Mrs PS. Not much capacity to carry much. If the SHTF while we’re nomads I’ll have to deal with scarcity issues in “another way”; which is what I thought I might end up doing anyway. Future is very uncertain, I’m hoping it’s gonna… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
3 months ago

Come to the US Palma, you can just walk across the border…

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 months ago

@stuffinbox

ya, I know…lol… I’m not worried about me… and even so, I just put 2 more sawyer minis in my stash… I got family in the city…

good luck!

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 months ago

@Palma “@HABD Thanks for your generosity however I’m still “travelling” in the Balkans because we’re waiting visa approval for the U.K. The way things are she may not get a visa and it’ll get really interesting.” that’s a nice way of putting it…lol “As I think I’ve intimated I have one small hand luggage rucksack of stuff to my name right now, and so does Mrs PS. Not much capacity to carry much.” sawyer mini .. only 2oz and small enough to stash anywhere… good for 100k gallons… you can order from amazon and get it through a reshipper if… Read more »

NNN1
NNN1
3 months ago

@Palma Congrats on your second child, I’m sure you will handle all trouble the world throws at you. You’ve gotten up too often now (just from what we know here) to fail now. Report on the end @HABD SHTF-situations are where big properties with enough land to produce own food come in handy. We already checked the old wells, all dry but one. Have a creek next to the house (running the hydro-powered generator), but that will loose it’s drinking-grade when normal water-supply fails and people return to former-time methods of sewage disposal. But I don’t see the extreme-scenario in… Read more »

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