For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
Dr Zipper
https://youtu.be/YOmzWMEWpy4
@habd
expound on that control idea… bc I really don’t understand… duct tape and sound proof rooms?…lol
that’s the opposite of seduction…
the flip side of girls making it happen when they want it is girls making it not happen when they don’t… where doesn’t matter…
Control over logistics so that, in the course of seduction, I minimize the number of factors that could adversely affect my ability to get what I want.
Agreed, on your second point. Be the prize, take the lead by seducing her, leave less up to chance or her mood in the moment.
boulderhead – I like ELO but not sure why you sent it my way
btw, Don’t Bring Me Down was a childhood fave, fond memories of my mom crankin it for me when it came on the radio
@CatchersIndifference Control over logistics so that, in the course of seduction, I minimize the number of factors that could adversely affect my ability to get what I want. my point is that those ‘factors’ (which you should list out, if only for your own clarity…) that you are thinking about are either real (like a roommate/live with parents situ… in which case… ‘car’…lol) or they are not… which would be the FI pushing on you… except for possible social judgment, like with a live with parents situ, any important factor (like leading her, subcomms, sexual intent, having a condom, etc)… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdWeU9N0Jb0
Not a bad Game clip… Break it down Gamesters…
September 15, 2017 at 5:22 pm Culum “I started drinking early today with my buddies. I’m pretty drunk. I’m at the pizza place now at flirting with the vegan girl returning a pepperoni pizza. Perhaps not the best state of mind to be buying new Bitcoin” Sounds like a good start to the next DHV story… PS – on investment stuff like this I always tell the guy to do what he thinks and see how it works out… The field is king in all disciplines. Field Report: DHV Risk Taking Story. I scored some illegal drugs on the black… Read more »
@Sentient
http://tonylace.blogspot.com/2007/09/taxi-drivers-travis-bickle-master-pick_29.html
Didn’t go out dancing last weekend…Mrs. Gamer was working hard for my attention. I did go on two hikes last week and was around girls. Burned some cals and cardio benefits. Yay. Got some event with Mrs. Gamer tonight. Got a hike with people tomorrow. Art gallery stuff Fri. Planning to go out dancing too. I think I’m going to a party with Mrs. Gamer Sat. night.
No cheating J!
@habd my point is that those ‘factors’ (which you should list out, if only for your own clarity…) that you are thinking about are either real (like a roommate/live with parents situ… in which case… ‘car’…lol) or they are not… which would be the FI pushing on you… except for possible social judgment, like with a live with parents situ, any important factor (like leading her, subcomms, sexual intent, having a condom, etc) is going to be the same for either location… I agree with your list of logistics required for either location. This particular girl has a roommate which… Read more »
Also J note that the script the PUA breakdown uses is not the actual movie dialogue, which is way better.
@Catchers
almost there…
The FI in that idea is the focus is still on her.
aaand?… what else?… (note – it’s subtle…)
good luck!
@habd
aaand?… what else?… (note – it’s subtle…)
If I’m still beholden to her mood and “if she wants sex from me” then I’m still pedestalizing her as the sexual selector (FI).
My thought process should be less about what mood she is in and more about what I want and what I am doing to accomplish getting what I want.
It’s interesting to compare the script with the on screen dialogue. The script is so much more beta. Don’t know the back story but at the time DeNiro was pretty alpha. Wonder who made the rewrites?
Good example of laser too.
@Catchers If I’m still beholden to her mood and “if she wants sex from me” then I’m still pedestalizing her as the sexual selector (FI). My thought process should be less about what mood she is in and more about what I want and what I am doing to accomplish getting what I want. that’s good, but i don’t think you’re going to get it, so i’ll just tell you… (it’s a MPoO issue…) the idea is that you are not ‘enough’… why wouldn’t her mood push her into wanting sex with you?… why wouldn’t ‘chance’ not favor you?… it’s… Read more »
RSD Todd (well, just Todd Valentine now) is back!
Google Todd Winner Game for his new free online course and his return video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbKPs1HWLQ
Not watched it properly yet but it is called Winner Game and allegedly debunks the myths of the pickup industry and the things he wasn’t allowed to say while working for RSD etc.
Culum Interesting…. REMEMBER THIS MOMENT Because I’m about to take a SLEDGEHAMMER to whatever you thought you knew about game. Let’s face it, pickup and how it’s been taught has been hopelessly broken for a while now. THIS ISN’T THE GAME THAT I BELIEVE IN. IT NEVER HAS BEEN, AND NEVER WILL BE. As a coach, I’ve seen first hand the damage that a lot of these concepts have caused. For years I’ve been forced to stay quiet, subtly tip-toeing around half-truths I knew were inaccurate at best. But the gloves are coming off. I finally have the complete freedom… Read more »
… Well.
well
Just watching Winner Game now (it’s free – you put your email into the website and they email the password to the site with the private videos). Jumped straight to the “Truth about pickup” section. He goes out of his way to emphasize he is criticizing concepts and not people and he names no one. However. This is fascinating stuff. You need to know something about Game and the pickup industry to fully understand it – there are no sensational “XYZ faked his infields” type allegations. But a lot of really subtle insight about the PUA coaching industry. Watching the… Read more »
^ Thanks now I don’t have to watch it….
Max always sucked ass btw
Still watching it. But that section looked the most unique. Now watching the Winner Game mentality stuff (and infields and the beating approach anxiety sections are next) but while interesting there’s nothing super new.
@blax Lol, check out these comments by some scared ass pussy: But full disclosure: I’m much much more aware since this feeding frenzy has commenced. My job has dozens and dozens of cameras inside and outside. I used to pretty much ignore them, but I’ve become more aware. It has caused me to be more conscious of what I’m doing and saying, as everything is recorded and documented in some fashion. So now, the im’s from female coworkers only get ‘ professional ‘ replies. A message of ” hey hey hey ” only get a ” can I help you… Read more »
Time Reveals All. Always. I’ve watched dozens of ” infields ” here at TRM and I’ve said over the years that there’s something off. But guys like them and get something out of them, so cool. Just remember Game Rule no. 1 = don’t be a sucker, lol Tyler… Or Owen… Or whatever, has the shittiest pua ” style ” I’ve ever seen on any man period and I still find it fascinating that dudes are kind drawn to him in any fashion Wrt pickup. I used to tell ya that I’d bet everything I owned that I could hang… Read more »
Culum it *is* a good way to become “decent” but you plateau very fast – it will get you better quickly but isn’t sustainable and you will regress. This is why we keep saying Go Deep ™, learn the Why Behind the How (TM) and bringing it back to Mystery [ looking at you Mackay and Scars]. Not lost that Todd was a Project Hollywood guy. [Looks and Money] Yes of course they matter. They matter so much! When Alex left RSD he said the same thing… hmmmmm Pattern here? Hint – they push that narrative also because they can’t… Read more »
Hank
Has your love of your fear blinded you to the difference between “coworkers/emplyees” and everyone else?
Lol, you tryin’ to come for me hank? I stand by both versions in context. Clarification ( sigh ), I’m saying that the current, daily pronouncements have given me pause to think in light of cameras and everything being recorded ON MY JOB . Key being JOB.. Context= higher profile guys being accused of harassment on their ( say it with me ) ‘ jobs ‘. It gives me pause, the cameras and chicks being handsy in front of them. Makes me think that maybe for the time being, I need to be more professional AT WORK. Don’t try to… Read more »
Man all you old dudes have a massive hardon for RSD. I didn’t even MENTION them and here we are trashing RSD again. Lol @blax Whoa whoa woah. Who cares if you only take precautions at work? You went into great length describing all the girls you banged from work, even AT work, in your several decades at your job. Why stop now? If all the sexual harassment hoopla is just that, why not keep to your old ways — if not banging them, since you are married and all, why tone back your conversations at all? Come on blax,… Read more »
Read culum’s comment….. And video
Hank Vs Blax
Round 1 Commence
@ hank I shouldn’t explain anything to you because you’re trolling me, but all that aside, my point remains that I’m talking about work. And yeah, if I want to ‘ talk to ‘ a woman in a certain way, I’ll still do so – but if the woman, who I’ve not shown sexual interest in or flirted with, starts putting her hands on me or saying sexual stuff over a recorded phone line or company messenger, I’m gonna be smarter. Get it? It’s different than the FEAR factor I was alluding to prior, though you read it that way.… Read more »
@mersonia I mean…basically all I have done so far is just quote what blax has said back to him. Its more like blax is fighting against himself lol. It was just funny to me reading the comment about how blax is taking all these precautions at work, when just a few days ago he went after me for suggesting digireaper do the same. I had warned digireaper to be very careful when practicing kino in public venues, and that instead he should first practice kino in places like nightclubs where he’s be anonymous and he could fuck up without much… Read more »
Work isn’t a venue…..
I’ll see your well and raise you a Jack Benny “well”.
Man all you old dudes have a massive hardon for RSD. I didn’t even MENTION them and here we are trashing RSD again. Lol
Well…I never…
Hank, when I first voted, I was 22 and voted for the 2nd worst POTUS–Jimmy Carter. I never voted for Reagan, although I didn’t vote for Carter a 2nd time. Reagan was one of the best POTUS. I was young.
It’s Ok to be young and stupid…you’ll outgrow it. 😉
let’s say there’s a man around 65, happily married with kids, grandkids, etc.; when he was young, about 20, he has a fling but never knows about the son he fathered; now, the son is a man himself and knows about the father… what are the pros/cons of the son contacting the father?
serious question…. and this place is the best source of concentrated male advice I know of
@blax
Work isn’t a venue…..
And yet in the past, you not only gamed girls there, at work, you actually banged them at work.
Yet now you are taking all these precautions, from keeping it strictly professional in emails, to avoiding physical contact, to acting for the cameras.
Why is this?
Because hank, the anti has been upped over the past 60 days or so. If you work for a multi national with a massive hr department, you’ll be cognizant of the heightened awareness and adjust accordingly. No, work is not a ” venue ” as far as meeting chicks goes. But it’s done anyway. Because biology will not be denied. You’re purposely trying to miss my point in favor of advancing your theory. Lol. But I’ll continue for a bit before turning in and moving on. We’ve had dozens of. Cameras installed for about 15 years or so. I know… Read more »
Oh, one last thing I’ve noticed re: work. At he’s behest, I generate a massive report detailing every employees internet activity. I affectionately refer to it as The Rat Report. Usually I go through it looking for only the most obvious and blatant violations of company of sec policy. Even then, I give the offenders a heads up to cut that shit out or else. That fucking report can be 300+ pages if you bother to print it out. I was queried recently by a hr henchman as to where these reports were archived. … Writing, meet Wall. Right before… Read more »
blax – bottoms up improvement means no complicity with the man
don’t be a snitch, be a silent hero
@Blax – note that no one is questioning the Game skills of any of the RSD coaches. The Todd criticisms have to do with how they’re marketed and taught (not whether these guys are good with women). As I’ve said before, Tyler and the rest apply the same principles you do – just in a different way. What you’re doing is like a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu guy trash-talking a boxer because the boxer has no ground game for fighting, even though both can be very good fighters (with different strengths and weaknesses). @Sentient – Oh yes, I meant RSD Tyler, not… Read more »
BTW guys – 2 December today. One year to the day since YaReally’s last post.
Wherever you are dude – I hope you occasionally lurk on these threads and haven’t stopped helping other men. Thank you for everything you did – you changed my life and that of many others.
Zipper
Only real con I see is getting conned into taking care of the old bugger.
Tyler social circle game primer…
Befriend drug seller with Gatsby predelictions who can write off the leased party goers as expenses. Claim “crib” as own.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba0F9eaA_8e/?hl=en
@blax So how exactly is this comment… Plus post-harvey weinstein, you gotta be careful. Cameras and phones to record you everywhere. Guys in the past could go out and fuck up majorly and it was no big deal — the culture was far more forgiving and no one could very easily record what you did anyway. However, it’s not the case now. …all that different from this one Because hank, the anti has been upped over the past 60 days or so. If you work for a multi national with a massive hr department, you’ll be cognizant of the heightened… Read more »
I went to an association party with Mrs. Gamer. Knew a lot of people, some from decades ago. One girl hugged me and gave me a kiss on the cheek when she greeted me. I told Mrs. Gamer about it. No big deal. I danced with a bunch of girls there. Some guy took pictures of me dancing with girls. My partners complimented me a lot on my dancing. One girl whose husband kept trying to get her to dance with me was resisting…I told her that she didn’t have to dance with me…she was giggling on the dance floor… Read more »
@Culum Good looking on the Todd Valentine Video. He’s made a lot of the same discoveries us veterans of the game have come to, and a few points I haven’t actually considered. I still think that those guys need to touch on Red Pill/Feminine Imperative/Dark Triad stuff. 1) There are some girls that don’t respond to an “attraction” type model. She has to be entirely lead into bed – to such an extent that it could lead a dude into hot water in today’s climate – even though in the context/at the time – everything was on the up and… Read more »
Tiny FR: Away trip. Go to venue, supposedly am on the FB list. Get there, pass through bouncers saying I’m on the FB list. Get asked if I have a reservation. No, just FB list. Ok go on. Go to a different floor where the girls letting people in are, and they don’t have me on the list (some glitch or something). Try to sort it out with them then I say ok, I’ll come back tomorrow no worries. Go there again the following day. Tell bouncers I’m on the FB list. Get asked if I have a reservation. No,… Read more »
Hello everyone I don’t read the comments here as often as I would like, but I wanted to come here and post something for once that wasn’t a request for advice. Scene yesterday at home: My 6 year old boy loves his 3 year old sister and went to hug her. Sometimes she hugs him back and sometimes she pushes him away. Both are fine. This time she went in and put her arms out and actively hugged him back but she was saying “no, no no” while she was doing it. My wife broke them up and said the… Read more »
@WIArchie
Your LTRs… you talked about them only briefly and I’m curious. As far as I remember, they didn’t last not because the girls were “feral” or “the landscape is different in 2010s” but because it wasn’t for you (novelty wore off, they wanted more, you’re more of a “thrill of the hunt” man). Or is there more to it?
@IAS
@sentient
”bringing it back to Mystery [ looking at you Mackay and Scars]. ”
I’m still trying to implement mysterymethod, personally. (no luck yet, though)
Although scars seems to be using more of the RSD/evolutiondaily style, and sounds like he bagged an HB8 last week, so I guess it’s working for him to some extent
Maybe i’ll experiment with that route next year.
And as a group, women’s self-serving behavior shows how little they care about our rules. Yeah, but they almost always want to appear to be keeping the rules. Girls are very aware of the importance of their appearance. And it’s not our rules, but really Blue Pill rules that are most often enforced by White Knights and women competing with each other. Last night, I observed some questionable behavior in my social circle. A married woman I’ve known for decades surreptitiously kissed me on the cheek when we hugged, greeting each other. Her husband would not have liked this if… Read more »
TheMarquis ” I took the initiative and suggested moving out of the town … made a firm suggestion for where and when and set a timeframe … wife enthusiastically agreed… has started talking about how (in connection with the planning to move) it feels like the two of us are working as a team again.” See my comments on the suicide thread. Example of male leading and female following, swept up intonthe momentum, and how this keeps hypergamous reflexes in check in a LTR. It is not some spectacular knife juggling while standing one a beach ball feat. One slip… Read more »
Mini-FR: so my “away event” ended and in the morning of the last day I noticed a girl and exchanged some EC. Later I noticed her sitting (near) where I usually sat, so I go there and sit next to her. Looked at her a bit. Noticed she had scratches in the hand. Thought about opening during lunch but then got stuck with some other people and it would be a bit obvious. After lunch I had a small opening, she was sitting somewhere else slightly isolated and went there and went “Hey. Do you have a cat?” and she… Read more »
@IAS
This FR sounds nearly identical in thematics to your e-mail saga girl. Seems like you haven’t made the decision to make the plunge so are only taking half measures and frustrating yourself.
Don’t set yourself up for failure!
Still catching up and reading older comments… @rugby11 @Sentient This Eyes Wide Shut scene is really good. Worth reposting in FRs: Her:”why can’t you ever give me a straight fucking answer!” Him:”That’s what I thought i was doing…?” That eyes Wide Shut clip, the first one, is required viewing… worthy of a 3,000 word FR break down. Cruise is the UberBeta in that movie, so perfect. It’s great also because it shows two conversations running in parallel: logical (he thinks he needs to directly address everything she’s saying) and Cat-o-nese (which he cannot read and that makes her feel contempt… Read more »
Another great thread gents: @Sentient HABD’s Guard Dog spin up situation is going to get very messy, very soon! @Anonymous Reader Society wide Guard Dog spinup? Damn. That’s going to take some pondering. @HABD thaaat’s what’s been bugging me about the Roy Moore situ… i couldn’t quite figure it out, but THAT was it… since the FI is the aggregated decisions (per hypergamy) of all girls, it makes sense that the FI would have the aggregated rolodexes of all girls available to use for it’s shit testing purposes… at the same time… against the same man… and what happens when… Read more »
@IRL #1 – Her best friend died, so I have no idea what was up with. (pre game) #2 – moving in two different life directions (pre game) #3 – long distance. (post game) #4 – Two different schedules – and the value proposition was declining on both sides. She’s now married to the dude that was in the background of our relationship. That could have been me, married, not on this site, kids, the whole 9 – but I dodged that bullet. She got fed up, and another cat swooped in to deal with her problems. I sincerely believe… Read more »
gonna try one more time lol Friday FR See older woman (38 HB6 when younger can tell she was 7.5-8 back in the day beautiful eyes) with hair tied in a knot on the dance floor. Test for compliance immediately by telling her to let her hair down I think she looks better that way. She complies an I turn her to face her 3 girl friends for group approval doesn’t she look better with her hair out. “I don’t dance with drunk chicks”. Is she drunk? Screening her I have standards. I talk to her friends to 3. My… Read more »
Bitcoin: http://fortune.com/2017/12/03/heres-what-bitcoins-smartest-skeptics-are-telling-investors/ A Tool for Criminals One of the perennial critiques of cryptocurrency was reiterated this week by Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, who has bigger things on his mind than a bubble – he thinks Bitcoin is morally dubious, and bad for global governance and the macroeconomy. “Bitcoin is successful only because of its potential for circumvention [and] lack of oversight,” he told Bloomberg last week, “So it seems to me it ought to be outlawed, it doesn’t serve any useful social function.” Stiglitz is right that much of Bitcoin’s early momentum was based on either lawbreaking or capital… Read more »
@Catchers: yes, I myself noted the similarity. Frustrating. When I was writing the FR I was kind of wishing I had these opportunities with random girls, then I caught myself and remembered “Don’t wish it was easier”… I just need to get better and create those opportunities myself.
@j: masterful. Such control of the environment. Loved the packed pizza place and then the closed pizza place on purpose LOL. Made me think last year when I brought some girl to a place that had closed (not on purpose) and it messed me up a bit, and you take a girl to a closed on purpose and use that to further isolate her. Also a nice detail – after the strong open on the girl, got logistic, girl tells him about the obstacle – this I think is a massive IOI as she is basically telling him what she… Read more »
@WIA 1) There are some girls that don’t respond to an “attraction” type model. rethink this… EVERY girl responds to that model… specific details might change, but the basic model is ALWAYS there… for success OR failure… She has to be entirely lead into bed – like every girl… every time…lol No active/tangible feedback girls – girls that are attracted and show it body language wise, but verbally shut down. these are usually hotter girls… although, the hottest girls sometimes even shut down their body language at some point…lol… and that ‘shut down’ is just a different type of shit… Read more »
Moving this menopause topic over from the other thread. For an FR She was late 40’s when it hit her, missing periods, a little crazy but not bad if you have lived with a pregnant woman, it wasn’t that bad, still some split personality like living with two different people. Our sex was regular up to this point, both mid 40’s and banging it out 4 to 5 times a week. Then she started with the hot flashes (like a fever sweaty hot clammy) and she started to dry up. Even increased foreplay wouldn’t get her wet anymore. We got… Read more »
one week till doctor appointment. One the one hand, could be a quick fix, like with catcher’s (I think it was) anemia, or it could take several years for even small improvements (as with forge’s theories of what I have…though worth noting, those particular diagnoses don’t fit completely, they are merely plausible and can’t be ruled out yet). And who knows how long the diagnosis will take — as I’ve mentioned, forge and I have written a novella’s worth of emails and we still don’t have a good idea of what I have. Hopefully the battery of blood tests will… Read more »
Firstly — nice write up HABD on WIA comments, I noticed some of that. Mainly: sooo, you’re saying when he finally stopped chasing her (with her as the prize…), THEN she banged him?…lol lol, but you picked up on a lot more things than I did. Reminds me of the Sandler sales system, where you back off once people start to get interested. If there is too much pressure on the prospect, they lock up, but once you relieve the tension and show you don’t have to make the sale, you aren’t pushy, then they are free to open up… Read more »
WIA: 1) There are some girls that don’t respond to an “attraction” type model. HABD: rethink this… EVERY girl responds to that model… Cosign HABD, but some girls require very careful calibration, so it seems like they don’t respond to an attraction model…Mrs. Gamer is like that, so I’ll use her as an example…very unabashedly judgmental (all girls are judgmental, lol, but some hide it) and high self esteem…very churchy, yet she can go for an emotional ride like any girl…been there, done that with her…if she likes a girl, that girl is never a slut (“made some bad choices”,… Read more »
As for culum and winner game, haven’t watched it yet, but most of the things you mentioned from Todd’s “The truth about pickup” has already been established before…really its just an issue of emphasis. Fair warning, wrote a lot here, but it improved my mood just writing it all out — and that’s all I’m focused on right now, just making it to that doctor’s appointment. I care fuck all if anyone reads it, already served its purpose, but feel free to lol. The flashy stuff I think is a fair reveal and criticism — that its a low percentage… Read more »
Thanks for sharing @WIArchie, thought provoking… Being in an LTR myself (17 years and counting, most of that time Blue Pill lol) I can say that what keeps me hooked is NOT my wife as a person. I like pair bonding, so it’s definitely important to enjoy each other’s company and that’s cool. But if I ask myself: would I be with with my wife if we didn’t have kids… the answer is no. I can’t imagine her not being torn between fulfilling her deepest biological desire and staying with me. There would be only downside. The upside (same or… Read more »
@j “I just smile at her and kiss her neck finger her suck on her tits but no p in v. After several more attempts I give up.” I came to a conclusion that epiphany chicks are the main reason why Blackdragon ended up with his 2-day model (quick meeting on day 1 and then invite her to his place on day 2) to bypass the “I don’t put out on the first date” feeling. Have you tried closing sets like the one above on day 2? May as well not be worth the effort, I’m not sure yet. I… Read more »
Just finished listening to this in the background… A breakdown, Ukrainiacorns, SJW beta white knight, PUA vs mainstream media, FI agenda, Secret Society, body language etc. in one video… the only thing missing is an infield… lol
I stand corrected, Richard actually number closes these two Italians, it’s a full infield… lol
@IRL “Have you tried closing sets like the one above on day 2?” Nah haven’t been on a day 2 in well over a year and a half. Strictly run SNL game only. The good thing about this self constraint, is that it’s really improved my problem solving skills/creativity/confidence that I can any close any girl I want (besides epiphany chicks apparently 😉 plus it’s always a fun adventure 🙂 “May as well not be worth the effort, I’m not sure yet.” Yeah this was my first 35+ year old woman I was in S3 with this year and I… Read more »
found this in the sidebar when I clicked on @IRL’s clip…4:20 – 5:30 powerful closer mindset:
J
“Yeah this was my first 35+ year old woman I was in S3 with this year ”
Blackdragon had a contest to find a system to reliably and cheaply close 33+ women because he was at a loss to do it with the same constraints as younger girls.
I posted that thread here and Thin Man’s and Pure Evil’s solutions. Which generally involved a Day 2.
SNL game will always give you sharper skills, and to me, much hotter sex. Much more raw and in the moment. That is a rush.
Another video from Todd – he’s clearly on a publicity blitz. Only 7 minutes, called The State of the Pickup Community. This is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZL3SyZYBM It’s hard to summarize but he hits many of the same points as in the longer Winner Game videos. It’s obviously stuff he’s been thinking about and wanting to say for years and now he’s finally allowed to. He sounds very passionate. He actually sounds like a blend of YaReally (when he is talking about how the early pickup community was empirical and tested everything to see if it worked) and Rollo (when he… Read more »
Another mini-FR, day game. Interesting scenario for you guys to role play (and maybe I can learn from that). 2-set boarding the train, my target was carrying a long cardboard tube. With her luggage she passes the tube to the other girl (who was also a cutie), boards, and I open the other saying “I’m going to let you go ahead as I don’t want to have you behind me with that!”. She smiles and goes “Thank you”. They go in full of luggage and one of the rubber stoppers on the tube popped out (they must have scraped it… Read more »
@IAS ““Hi. I’m curious – what do you have inside the tube?” They tell me it is posters for some conference.” I’d ask them to let me see it, and then start playfully criticizing it, “I bet they gave you guys a week to make these posters, and instead you guys spent all that time partying and made this last minute” to get them LOLing then go “where is the conference taking place” blah blah “At a stop closer to the destination, an older woman that was sitting in the same row (but on the other side) from them leaves,… Read more »
I’d like to know what y’all think of Todd Valentine’s video re: happiness and pua that he posted up yesterday.
@j: thanks, I can see how those would be good moves. It was a good opportunity I think. I’m not very pleased with my performance but I’m not upset either as at least I tried. When I went over the last time it was with the thought of them showing me the poster actually. When the stopper was off I could have grabbed it and tell them I’ll give it to them after they show me what is inside (or just not pick it up, like I wrote before). We’ve discussed this at least once, it seems the hotties do… Read more »
@Blax – agree 100% with everything he said. Does not conflict with anything said on here even by YaReally. He could have mentioned a bit about the Red Pill though.
I liked the shot of him at the end with his newborn son.
I swear this dude can make anything boring -____- if anyone wants to write up a summary of what he said plz do
IAS Why did you sit so far away from them to begin with? What would you guys have done to DHV and get her number? So they are going to a city you are also going to and i presume you have some familiarity with? start with basics to get the convo rolling. Logistics info, where you coming from, what part of the city you staying in, ever been there before and use this as a branch into DHV story and start lasering, sexualizing. “so check this out, last time I was here …” and you are off… I think… Read more »
IAS
I’m not very pleased with my performance but I’m not upset either as at least I tried.
Good, just keep opening. A hundred more of these, it won’t even register. You certainly won’t write about it. By then, you will have 5 to 10 a day in a city environment. Just going about your day not even trying.
yeah the happiness vid seems all in order to me.
man, would really like to read one of those 8million page novellas from yareally on the subject of all this todd/rsd shitshow lol.
ah well
back to reading how to win friends and influence people, and working on my business idea. i’m set if I can just improve my health a little. less than a week till doctor’s appointment.
@Sentient: seats are assigned. I always choose the same spot: forward facing in the rear of the carriage, in one of the places where the seats flip from forward facing to rear facing. I used to seat there anyway, but I think it is actually the place that maximizes EC possibilities.
Is Todd monogamous now?
Yeah, Is Todd monogamous now???
When things get rough, having someone by your side who loves you, who cares for you, has your back, wants to build something with you and together is one of the most amazing experiences you can possibly have
…until she doesn’t.
Hint: burden of performance.
http://www.chicagonow.com/no-wire-hangers-ever/files/2016/03/IMG_5957-225×300.jpg
As a pua with laser-like focus on picking up women, Todd is making the hard left turn into the Big Blue Pill.
Most pua’s will do the exact. same. thing. .
http://taskums.com/images/apple-books-for-kids_81379329.jpg
Time still reveals all.
Lol.
From YaReally, pua extraordinaire – “What we need from you old guys who married is what benefits you guys got from it, so that we can help guys find other ways to get those benefits in a lower-risk fashion. Does that make sense? We can’t see ANY benefit to legal marriage or monogamy that they can’t still get from a non-legal non-agreeing-to-monogamy arrangement, so we need you guys knee-deep in that shit to tell us what benefit you get, or Andy gets, or Big Al will get, or hank and his new girlfriend (lol) will get, etc Because to US,… Read more »
@Blax with the talking heads again. Same as it ever was.
YaReally only posted RSD because they had good footage demonstrated certain aspects. He was never pushing their product, several times he even discouraged people from their paid offerings, and he linked videos with time stamps to the interesting part.
Still don’t know why you (Blax) insist on certain interpretations (which are at best incorrect) of verifiable facts… You really don’t need that.
lol monogamy is dead in 2017. Ya did an amazing job breaking it down back in his 2015 classic “why monogamy is broken in 2015” post:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2015/8/#comment-rationalmale-114069
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http://yareallyarchive.com/2015/10/#comment-rationalmale-122259
Nothing what Todd or anyone else says will ever convince me to give that shit a try lol. Currently waiting on Blackdragon’s updated ‘The Ultimate Open Relationships Manual’ to come out:
https://twitter.com/EverBlackdragon/status/935131304898842624
Ya’s archive is right there. I’m not interpreting anything, I’m quoting his wordz. Lol. I never said he was ” pushing their product “, but he made crazy pronouncements sometimes and he quoted all the shit RSD said constantly. So, if Todd is monogamous…. omfg…. lmao. because I tried to TELL him. Ya is gone ( but I’d bet he checks in to read every once in a blue moon ) but even now there’s talk of Tyler or Owen of whatever the fuck his name is, supposedly living in a mansion and all of that shit. What’s that got… Read more »
… con man, not can man.
” Nothing what Todd or anyone else says will ever convince me to give that shit a try lol. Currently waiting on Blackdragon’s updated ‘The Ultimate Open Relationships Manual’ to come out: ” This. This is your personal choice. I will never eat asparagus. My choice doesn’t say shit about asparagus. Ya broke down lots of stuff, including why his relationship failed and why he never considered doing it again. That’s key because as secretive as he was, he gave hints that he didn’t understand certain things at all, mostly out of fear and going by what someone else said.… Read more »
…. and just like every pua before you, when you change your mind and try to play catchup, you’ll be lost and become the bluest pill known to man.
That’s all I’m saying.
That’s all I’ve ever said.
More to life. Prepare in understanding or suffer.
Todd in one of the videos posted above implicitly stated that he is not monogamous with a girlfriend and a baby with her. He implied threesomes with her (which I suspect were before baby #1) Notwithstanding that this can be a gambit for selling his wares. Todd Valentine is selling a brand and his livelihood depends on it. Who knows whether the girlfriend and the baby were intentional. @Blaximus That’s where YaReally went off the rails. Old married guys with a good spouse don’t actually need to explain the benefits. They are self evident. “What we need from you old… Read more »