Field Reports

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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Lol

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Chunky Monkey a few other thoughts… First… dude you are what 6’4″? And a competitive swimmer? So yeah if you are also boldy opening.. what else are they gonna think than “whoa!”… Use that as your frame reference point. Second Example, was in the supermarket tonight, was walking down an isle, and noticed a young lady with an interesting shaped bottle of some sort in her basket walking away from me. So acting on the moment, I called out cheerfully, “that’s an interesting bottle you have there”. Without looking at me she smiled, reached into her basket, and picked out… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
8 years ago

[throwing arms in the air again…]

YES!!!!

lol

good luck!

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@HABD My reply to stuff like that would be, “Bro, you talk like a girl. Stop that shit.” you’ll notice that Blaximus didn’t respond (react) to that comment at all… (not even an ‘lol’…(insert frowny face…lol))… he just changed the subject (addressing someone else) to… Why should he? My comment was addressed to you. I’m sure you saw that my comment was authentic and in my frame. Lions can’t totally ignore hyenas. Hyenas are as big as lionesses and much more numerous. Sometimes the lion has to chase off the hyenas. YES!!! [throwing arms in the air…]… validation!!!… lol… Yeah,… Read more »

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

I had a read of the label, looked toward the girl with a querying look, and she explained that it was bourbon. So I made a few remarks, asked how she drank the bourbon (i.e. neat or as a mixer), etc., and I noticed, that her initial cheerful demeanour, became more and more nervous/awkward, and then she made a tiny turn away from me, but walked nearer to me to look at something on the shelf next to me, I felt the awkwardness and smiled and ejected. Of course she got nervous and awkward because the bourbon was for her… Read more »

mackay
mackay
8 years ago

@IRL Yes, I did mainly stick to stories to DHV. As you say, other things can also dhv from me I guess. I do notice that I almost never see any PUA’s tell DHV stories (especially at the open) and so I know they’re not necessary, but i’m trying to be true to my understanding of the model for a little while before I possibly move to a different ‘model’, more in line with the various infields that I watch that seem very different and resonate with me more. But I like this place, and since it seems very pro… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
8 years ago

@theasdgamer are you stimming?… serious question… bc i think you are missing some points here… Why should he? My comment was addressed to you. I’m sure you saw that my comment was authentic and in my frame. it was… but i was addressing the fluid status/AMOG issue that Blaximus brought up… and relative to that situ, if you had reacted like you stated you would, THAT reaction would have conferred AMOG status on ME… remember, it’s whoever reacts the LEAST = AMOG… wrt the other men in situ… and Blaximus just ignored my comment and changed the subject AND addressed… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
8 years ago

i think i figured out one point of confusion…

you’ll notice that Blaximus didn’t respond (react) to that comment at all…

‘that comment’ = my comment to Blaximus about his cool shirt… not your comment to me about what you would say in that situ…

good luck!

j
j
8 years ago

@mackay “I do notice that I almost never see any PUA’s tell DHV stories (especially at the open) and so I know they’re not necessary” Yeah i don’t either like I’ve said before. I DHV (like RSD guys) by DEMONSTRATING i have these qualities: http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/5/#comment-rationalmale-156696 That will get me IOIs and reach stage 2 (A2). “Regarding the Ryan Goslin clip, yes, I can see that he is DHV’ing through his confidence and body language etc, but he still didn’t actually get any confirmed a2 from the girl and so it was a still a mistake to show his intent and… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

are you stimming?… Busted…I’m enjoying myself…for those who don’t know what “stimming” is, it’s self-stimulation…nonsexual wanking…stimming helps autists relieve stress (we generally experience a higher level of stress than non-autists!) and it just feels good when autists’ stimming involves talking about a favorite topic…diarrhea of the mouth…it is perceived as low value because of frequency…even if the content is high value…any autists out there, don’t do this, lol…find some other way to stim 1. i think i figured out one point of confusion… you’ll notice that Blaximus didn’t respond (react) to that comment at all… ‘that comment’ = my comment… Read more »

mackay
mackay
8 years ago

@J – ”At the beginning, its mostly you making statements. 90/10 rule look it up. ” I think I struggle with this a bit maybe in terms of what kind of statements to use. Observations about her and the surroundings? Something canned? Any tips for that area? I saw people speaking about the ‘asking questions at the open’ thing here before and it’s still not quite clear. In Juliens PIMP, he says that the product is all you need to know about game and so there’d be no need to study other pickup stuff in theory. He says that after… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

@ Mackay

Man, you’re watching and reading and thinking way too much. It sounds like it’s paralyzing you

Question: are you looking for someone to give you a step by step set of directions that will be foolproof?

Don’t worry so much about any perceived contradiction between various puas. You have to get out there and then use what they’ve said as a reference, and use what works for your particular skill set.

j
j
8 years ago

@mackay “I think I struggle with this a bit maybe in terms of what kind of statements to use. Observations about her and the surroundings? Something canned? Any tips for that area?” Watch RSDMax here to get an idea of how he DHVs. Not the words persay, but watch how he DHVs by demonstrating he has the qualities/traits in that YaReally link: https://youtu.be/5ikLbhe_qzY “He says that after the open, you should have like 5 questions to follow up with (things like name, age, where they’re from, plans for the evening” This is to determine logistics. Also asking “who are you… Read more »

j
j
8 years ago

Pickup, like success, is not linear. Its messy. I break the rules too sometimes, but I’m also not a newb. You CAN break the rules once you know what you’re doing.

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@j @WIA

Do you have any way to tell if an IOI is because of beta attraction vs. alpha attraction? In other words, how can you tell whether a girl’s IOI is because she sees you as a resource provider or as an alpha stud?

Can you tell if IOIs are deliberate or reflexive? It seems to me that beta IOIs are due to deliberate golddigger girl game and alpha IOIs are due to her involuntary circuitry. So, if you can spot reflexive IOIs, you gain insight into how a girl views you.

IAS
IAS
8 years ago

@Blax, HABD, Sentient and SJF. Thanks guys. You guys are right. I’m getting some validation and a heck of a lot of buffering from the “friendship” (emotional affair or some crap like that), but I’m not a girl so I should be a man, even though she is single now the odds for sex are low because I waffled and I continued waffling. I’m annoyed at myself as I recognize in me the behaviour that annoys me when I see it so clearly in some other posters – pretty much everyone saying X, which is clearly correct, and the poster… Read more »

Scott
Scott
8 years ago

@ westindianarchie
So what are some ways to salvage this? I just saw her again today in the gym but neither of us paid any mind to each other because it was packed. Not intentionally, but literally, no eye contact , no hello, nothing.

mersonia
8 years ago

@Scott

I just saw her again today in the gym but neither of us paid any mind to each other because it was packed. Not intentionally, but literally, no eye contact , no hello, nothing.”

If you noticed that you didn’t pay any mind to each other then you paid mind to her.

WestIndianArchie
8 years ago

@Scott YOU’RE STALKING HER. STOP She “girl” rejected you several times at this point. Girl’s don’t like to give a hard “no”, because there are some guys out there that are unhinged. Plus you might know computers or be able to move heavy boxes. She’ll use you for something, never acknowledging that you want to sleep with her, and you’re not changing her oil out of the good of your heart. This is the modern age She got your text. She didn’t care enough to respond. She got your messages. She didn’t care enough to respond You ask her a… Read more »

Scott
Scott
8 years ago

Treat me like kid… I’ve been shown this method by a friend and honestly I don’t know where to start. How can I start grasping these concepts and what is the steps to take to learn? Where do I start! I’m basically just reading random articles in no significant order, and I could use a map right about now.

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

I asked a girl out on a date and she ran away screaming. I caught up to her after a 2 mile chase, and she pulled out some mace and sprayed it in my eyes.

I was wondering, should I train to run faster, or should I invest in a gas mask of some sort?

WestIndianArchie
8 years ago

@ASD 1) Do you have any way to tell if an IOI is because of beta attraction vs. alpha attraction? Lemme rephrase your question a bit If she’s digging me, is it because she sees me as a provider, a guy for a good time, or her soul mate? In my experience, a girl that wants you as her “man” (soul mate or provider) – goes into “girlfriend” mode. She looks at you with adoration (as opposed to hunger). She might start grooming you (like picking lint out of your Afro, smoothing down your leather vest). If you get slotted… Read more »

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

@IAS It was a good education. It takes Knowing Thyself and what you want. (Which is what Sentient has been telling you.To Know Thyself. By asking: what is your goal?) Once you know yourself, it is very much easier to have self confidence. It seems you know yourself better and want to improve in MRP. I say: Advance that Cause. Become Masterful at that. That involves stuff you know about but need to develop better. Rollo’s four part series on ‘The Reconstruction’ deserves a re-read, including the “breaking up with her” which you have already done in offering divorce. Good… Read more »

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Rewrite: Most guys that want to pursue Red Pill Married Game after becoming Betatized are Purple Pill (myself included). Most of MRP is partially Purple Pill.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

@Scott Treat me like kid… Where do I start! I’m basically just reading random articles in no significant order, and I could use a map right about now. First of all, when you are asking advice here it’s best to tell us Who You Are, What is your station in life and what do you want to accomplish? Second of all, yes it is difficult to wade through Manosphere random articles. There is lots of noise out there. I’ve been through a thing or two in regards to Red Pill and Game and Manosphere. I’ve consumed a lot of thought… Read more »

mersonia
8 years ago

@scott go torrent one of juliens rsd pick up programs ( preferably shift/pimp) . practice using it till you have basic social skills. Then pick up mystery method. The whole learn to be a man thing isn’t going to help you much yet

WestIndianArchie
8 years ago

@Scott Game for newbs There are 2 basic paths – The King and the Player. 1) The King- this is your alpha, your money maker, your shot caller, the big boss. He takes what he wants, and other people make excuses for him. This is the guy that goes in direct, lets the girl knows what he wants, and he’s not ashamed of it at all. If his game screens out chicks, so be it – there are 3.5 billion more. She is disposable, I am not. He cares about what he thinks, not about what others think. The king… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Scott @WIA Tonight I was hanging a lot with a girl who had been on a date with a guy at the bar…I asked her the situation and she said that he’s a friend. He was obviously wanting more…hugging her and she was barely tolerating it. She was bumping with me after I told her to stop and I was swatting her butt…she gave me a bear hug…I thought she was trying to make him jealous until I found out the situation…he was a friend to be used…he paid for their concert tickets…maybe bought her drinks, too. Don’t be that… Read more »

j
j
8 years ago

Yeah scott. Luckily for that guy, theasdgamer wasn’t gonna fuck her cause he’s married…because otherwise…well:

http://goldmundunleashed.com/redpill-player-steals-girl-friend-zone/

lol…

mackay
mackay
8 years ago

in terms of game , what did @scott do wrong and what should he have done out of interest?
I mean, I can see that he was maybe coming across as needy etc, but from reading, I kind of feel that this was just an after-effect, and whether he came across as needy or not after she essentiall blew him off, he wasn’t gonna get her. Seems as though she wasn’t actually interested sexually, and maybe agreed to coffee out of politeness and as a friend sort of thing?

kfg
kfg
8 years ago

” . . . what did @scott do wrong . . .”

First off, he took a Facebook interaction seriously.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

Scott and Mackay:

Seduction, Freedom & Mastery: An Interview

Young newbie asks a seduction expert questions. GoldmundUnleashed gives concrete (rather than abstract) answers:

https://youtu.be/f1r65xnG7o0

Stories and examples because of reference experiences in the field. Young guys should get out and get as many reference experiences in the field as possible. Times a wasting. Do Action. Don’t merely want or hope and sit on your ass, intend and go do stuff.

mersonia
8 years ago

lol goldmund and rsd max are terrible. Commend the efforts tho

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

in terms of game , what did @scott do wrong and what should he have done out of interest?

He sniped. Rollo has a section dedicated to blog posts on Plate Theory. You guys should read those ASAP.

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@j Yeah, I saw the swat broad when I entered the bar and she wanted a hug and wanted to chat and I eventually saw that she was with a guy so I asked her about the situation and she finally admitted that she was on a date and that the guy was “a friend”. He was pretty dull and unengaging. Not bad looking tho. Just never got the message about being fun and having fun. Last week I saw this same girl and she was qualifying to me and telling me jokes and I played my Broken Taillight Game… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

In many ways Goldmund is just living the reality of hanging out in NYC. Every since I was a young buck I’ve understood that if you can’t get laid in New York, you can’t get laid at all. Lol.

Even in my city of 280 thousand, it’s not difficult to ” bang ” because it’s target rich, especially every work day when the population swells to over 300 thousand plus, with a majority of them being single females.

I do give him props when he takes his attitude outside of NY and bangs. Banging begets more banging.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

“lol goldmund and rsd max are terrible. Commend the efforts tho”

Come on Mersonia, use your words. Tell us why?

dr zipper
dr zipper
8 years ago

at times when I’ve tried to search this site for previous comments — mine or otherwise — I’ve found searching using this site or google to be a pain in the ass and not always fruitful so yesterday I whipped up a comments scraper utility that let’s you gather comments, fuck with them in a grid table and also view the ‘rendered’ comments it only works in Windows scrapes comments from one or more comment pages comments from different topics/posts can be gathered and treated as one dataset text in the ‘Data’ textbox can be copied into a text file… Read more »

IRL
IRL
8 years ago

@mackay “I know [stories] they’re not necessary, but i’m trying to be true to my understanding of the model for a little while” Mystery never said DHVs need to be stories. It’s your misconception. You’re in your head, gather more reference experience. Push the envelope and find out something new about yourself and the world. BTW what’s your opens count since the last FR (3 girls back then)? @IAS, @mackay, @Culum, @newlyaloof @mackay “Are you saying that even without vebalising it, it should be clear that i’m a sexual threat even before she’s shown interest in me? (eye contact etc… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
8 years ago

“If cannot summon moisture from you, I’m not doing my job properly” – the irl video above Russel Brand – Master of Flirtation

master indeed, I’ve got a crush on him now

scars
scars
8 years ago

Laid last night. Teenager 15 years my junior, lol. I’d give her a 6.7-7. Slim. Gorgeous, see-through blue eyes. Dancefloor pull. I was a shitshow of comedy errors that possibly worked in my favour. (after I’d established lots of A2, she caught me kissing some girl on the dancefloor) I somehow recovered. And then, like a bad comedy, she AGAIN saw me kiss another girl whilst she was at the bar buying me a drink!! haha By the way, this sort of thing never happens to me (kissing numerous girls per night) so i’m not bragging. But it was just… Read more »

scars
scars
8 years ago

In terms of interactions, i’m trying to piece it together! I opened up these 2 gorgeous girls, but it was my first approach of the night and I was way in me head. It was some sort of opinion opener. I followed by asking their names and stuff (breaking rapport tonailty) but I wasn’t really able too hook and I kind of ejected soon after. One was 18 and totally my type! Then when I came back from the bathroom I saw 2 girl sitting down. Can’t remember how I opened, but a few seconds later I was chatting to… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Scars Sounds like fun. Hank – this is what trying and escalating looks like… “after being caught kissing someone and this made the girl want me more. crazy.” Now you are one of the guys that’s “read” MM and this is confusing? I’m convinced 90% of guys who say “yeah yeah I read that” have at best glanced at it and never watched the full video seminars… 😢 I’m also convinced guys think that A1 A2 C1 C2 etc etc are “locked in” once attained and therefore nothing else matters. They fail to see A1 to S3 is always a… Read more »

scars
scars
8 years ago

lol, I know it was about pre-selection and stuff and not really my London Gentleman aftershave 🙂

I am pleased with myself, but i’m not gonna lie. Like with most of my pulls, I tend to think that it was more a matter of her being ‘into me’ from the start. I know people always say I should give myself more credit but that’s often how it feels.

scars
scars
8 years ago

And jealousy plot lines

j
j
8 years ago

So in one club we have a “below average looks and short” dude have moderate success. Then that same below average dude goes to another club and is able to establish massive A2 in the club through jealousy plotlines and preselection to the point where a girl “higher” on the SMV (girls dont fuck guys below them) fights other girls in the club to get fucked by said below average dude. Hey man I don’t why you guys waste your time with that outdated mystery method bullshit. You’re better off maximizing your looks and money, and just living life. Then… Read more »

j
j
8 years ago

“Never underestimate women’s natural instinct to outcompete other women in the sexual market for a desired man’s attention”

http://web.archive.org/web/20091006131337/http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/02/friday-night-game/

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@scars gratz, buddy…wish I had the freedom to just kiss girls on the dance floor…but there’s that FC monster always lurking out there…Family Court Like with most of my pulls, I tend to think that it was more a matter of her being ‘into me’ from the start. I know people always say I should give myself more credit but that’s often how it feels. Let’s break this down, looking at your mental processes. “that’s often how it feels”…this is the FI pushing on you because you aren’t supposed to “get it”. Because if you “get it”, then the FI… Read more »

j
j
8 years ago

“you aren’t supposed to “get it”. Because if you “get it”, then the FI has lost and you have more sexual opportunity because you can affect your outcomes by your actions”

+1

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

FR just having fun Went to a party peopled mostly by 30-somethings…the hostess initially crossed her legs while I was around…another girl did as well…listened mostly to other people chatting…most of it was dull…my energy high points occurred when I interacted with other men who are socially adept…found out that another man in the group is mildly autistic…he and I chatted a bit about social skills… I chatted with an out of towner (oot) girl and another guy…the guy left and the girl stayed…she was hooked…we had some common interests…after a bit of chatting I noticed that the group had… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Family court? In da club?

walawala
walawala
8 years ago

Not really a Field Report but a report on a situation and how I handled it. I dj at a bar monthly. I work it out with the bar that we don’t charge entry people pay for reasonably priced food and drink and then tip me if they liked the music. It works The last one I did a tall, young fit HB8 comes in—shaved head like an Apache, looks smoking. Clearly someone used to attention. I start gaming her immediately–tossing out the negs—it’s going great. We dance she’s digging the kino. Suddenly i’m up dancing or djing and a… Read more »

Markos Beers
Markos Beers
8 years ago

Hey gentlemen (I use the term loosely) Single father, mid-40’s, 16 months passed the split with son’s mother (never married), have fucked ~6 girls since. Two were steady plates until recently (felt great.) Now have one main and one irregular FB. Goal is different plates more often, at least for now. Mostly to keep me moving forward… working on professional/personal stuff as well. I work in the fitness field, look like it, and pretty glib/witty when I’m feeling it. Still, I know my Game is not a strong point. Looking for advice for/from single dads who understand how a man’s… Read more »

Markos Beers
Markos Beers
8 years ago

Or, how to discuss/not discuss the kid. Just feel like I’ve been getting in my own way after opening…

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

people in the bar see…tell other people who sometimes go to the bar who have met Mrs. Gamer…maybe girls take pics and post online and it gets subpoenaed…I occasionally take Mrs. Gamer to venues where someone might rat me out

6 degrees of separation

just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean that FC won’t be out to get you

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Wala

Or you could have said, “You can fuck me really hard and you can get your feelings out that way.”…probably slap you and you could say…”I guess the foreplay is starting now”…she laughs…cause that’s what it is…then she chills and becomes submissive

Leave off “and that will end it”…doesn’t help and only provokes her…she wants to dominate

I avoid any girl with a “statement” shaved head…”Oh look at me, I’m so independent.”…she’ll be looking to dominate men and she lets her feelings drive her behavior even more than most broads.

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

Wala

Seen quite a few of these around my way –

http://www.styleinterest.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/braided-mohawk-hairstyle-5.jpg

I try really, really hard not to stereotype people, male or female, too much… but damn, I haven’t interacted with a Mohawk yet that wasn’t eventually drama filled.

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

lol. Gee, that’s too bad.

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

Wonder if @Rollo has any horror stories about men and FC.

Markos Beers
Markos Beers
8 years ago

FC = Feminine Collective?

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
8 years ago

Wow, I take ten days off to deal with a hairline fracture (ouch) and some family shit and you guys drop several hundred posts of quality stuff on this thread. Taken me almost three hours to go through it but great stuff – learned a lot from WIA, IRL, HABD and the other regulars. @IRL – I’ve downloaded the Brian Tracy image (isn’t he the guy who said something about eating a frog or something?) and may make it my wallpaper. @Scars – great going. Great FR. Not even necessarily the sex (although I’m sure that was fun) but the… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

FC = family court

IRL
IRL
8 years ago

@Markos

I usually fail when posting links to Blackdragon’s blog here (spam filter?), so just find this OP yourself: How To Date As A Single Dad, Posted on July 16, 2015 by Blackdragon

walawala
walawala
8 years ago

@Ads I’m trying to de-escalate and not have a girl like this infect the other people at a smaller gathering. The fact she went to another room and ranted to the manager is a good thing. Listening to her in any way would have lowered my value. Ignoring her and not “letting” her express her “feelings” was actually a smarter way of handling a customer complaint. @Blax The waiter was having a bad day and run off his feet. He kept pushing back on crazy which only made it worse. Drama-filled….yes. This was a business situation where I can’t simply… Read more »

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

@whoever asked for beginner resources Culum: Also, I don’t have the google-search-fu of IRL but YaReally had a post in his archive where he linked the “key resources” he suggested for beginners – it’s all shorter Youtube stuff (like the Gambler and Liam McRae videos on EC/laser) and well worth watching and even more importantly, *taking action* and implementing. NewlyAloof was so kind as to curate some of YaReally’s new to game advice: https://newlyaloof.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/why-yareally-need-to-learn-game/ I don’t think the eye contact laser videos were included there. @Walawa Good job @Law #10. Hell yes, avoid the unhappy and the unlucky that need… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

Building up my social circle. Had a bad night, symptoms coming up, but went out anyway. Start was shit, in my head, being very negative. Had to pop around a bunch of venues, no targets anywhere. Finally, I see a three set of asians. Open them, boom, right in. Honestly I did not so great of a job by my standards, but I still took over the whole set for about 10 minutes and controlled the whole conversation. I was leading the conversation. Spiked the girls (it was two girls, one guy) several times, but I could have done MUCH… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@wala If she had slapped you, that could have deescalated her drama tantrum just fine, I think, with proper handling. What would the effect have been on business if you had maintained an iron frame? Not much, I expect. Everyone watching probably thought that she was acting like a drama queen. She: [slaps you] People watching: OMG! That woman is out of control. (They wouldn’t blame you for being slapped because of her previous behavior…no WKs would arise) You: I wanted you to slap me so your anger would vanish. Feel better now? She: [sheepishly] Yes, I’m sorry. You: [to… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@wala

I do this kind of thing with Mrs. Gamer when her feeling run amok…a fire break tactic. Create a small amount of drama to defuse a big dramatic scene. Part of my Relationship Game post.

https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2014/10/23/managing-your-relationship-with-your-wifegirlfriend/

j
j
8 years ago

@hank “asians tend to not give obvious iois” In my experience the way Asians (at least the white-washed ones. I don’t like FOB asians) give IOIs is mainly by shit testing you. “Grabbed their numbers” Why? Pick a target. “Can i just say bye to GorgeousAsian” pull her aside and exchange numbers. What are you doing tommorow? Don’t lose sight of the goal “If I can get in with this group, I can get access to the asians here (they are hard to find).” Fuck that group. Probably more boring asians. However, GorgeousAsian is hot (hot girls have hot friends… Read more »

j
j
8 years ago
Roused
Roused
8 years ago

@Markos Depending on where you’re at in the process of working you’re game you can easily add to the conversation that you have kids. If done right it can be a comfort thing if you talk positively or mention a humorous story about your kid(s). It’s a way to steer the conversation to fun playfulness and it lets her know you’re somewhat “normal” if you have a kid and enjoy being a father. If the girl is young and does not have kids, or never wants them it might not be quite as fun for the woman though. You have… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

In my experience the way Asians (at least the white-washed ones. I don’t like FOB asians) give IOIs is mainly by shit testing you.

When I was working with Asian nurses, they would tag me and run away or tease me.

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

In regards to Goldmund Unleashed, that guy is genuine dynamic, passionate and authentic. And he’s got the Platinum Rule on lock-down. What I realized was that he is a real Myers Briggs type INFP. (I know Rollo hates the MBTI cult of personality and hates some young twit from Great Britain that goes on about Myers-Briggs on Twatter). But bear with me. My son is the same INFP artist, “Don’t Box Me” motherfucker type. And my son is dealing with that “me against the world type” at only a young age. And he’s rocking it. So there is that. And… Read more »

IAS
IAS
8 years ago

@Scars: just beautiful (and hilarious). “I die inside” LOL.

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Markos I submit there is no “single father game”… It’s all the same. So… If you feel weird, she will. If you feel great, she will. And a kid is a form of preselection. What you want to do is relate to her as a. Man to a woman. Not a dad to a woman. Be a dad to your son, not to her. So no puppy stories of you and son and no sad sack stories about your split… Man to woman and use the past when you can for status and preselection. NBA guys with a dozen kids… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

@j Thanks for linking the sex god method pdf. Already read through most of it, at least the stuff that would be most helpful. “Grabbed their numbers” Why? Pick a target. Because I have a lot more that just game to work on, and building a social circle is one of them. Its very difficult to do here because people do.not.like.to.meet.new.people. And even if you can break into their group, they generally won’t ever meet up with you again. It is a part of the culture. You hang out with lifelong friends from childhood, or family, or friends of family.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Hank Blah blah blah… Dude you’ve mentioned the local university a few times now. Go crack that. Go where they go. Enough of the bs. Take 15 minutes online to figure out where all the college kids hang out. All. Be sexy… Lol. So i got dropped off at the airport and left my sunglasses in the car. Call the guy and he will spin back around and bring them to me. So I am standing in departures and waiting. Cute young black security card comes over, stands close and says ” sir you know you are in departures not… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

Props, Sentient…you’re having fun…the guard was having fun…you brightened her day

having a bad day
having a bad day
8 years ago

@IRL j WIA theasdgamer

https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-47/#comment-217813

comment finally out of mod jail…lol… (thanks Rollo… hope you had a great trip…)

good luck!
—-
@Sentient

j put up a link to CH for @mackay that might help you with some insights on comfort/rapport with the hotty HBs… aaand some GREAT commenters in that thread…lol

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/03/31/a-test-of-your-game-update-t-ball-pickup/

good luck!

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@HABD no… ‘failure to give an IOD’ (or IOI for that matter…) is when she is no longer engaged… (ie just walks away…)… anything else is just a weak IOI… bc IODs are shit tests… and what do we know about shit tests?… Yeah, that makes sense…I normally break rapport if the IOI isn’t strong enough. Did that at the party when I was chatting with two hotties and both were standing with their legs crossed but not showing enough eye contact and weren’t lit up. I was grilling and had to pay attention to the food, so it wasn’t… Read more »

scars
scars
8 years ago

Thanks @Culum, @IAS and the rest. I’m glad you found it amusing! haha. Even now i’m laughing about it The look on the friends face after they caught me for the 2nd time making out with someone was a picture. Watching me trying to dig out of that hole was both pathetic and hilarious. And Yes, I mean I know that there was game in there in terms of escalation, leading, navigating my way around the jealousy plotline etc. My physicality was on-point on the dancefloor which was great, but my verbal game (ability to just reach the hook point)… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
8 years ago

markos – similar issues with me; had a FR not long ago in which I stalled out when the issue came up; it’s all entangled with the divorce, being back into the SMP, feeling rusty, all that shit and yep, I felt unprepared and caught off guard, which killed any stud vibe I might have had since she likely sensed it; but like sentient recommends, it’s all in how you present it…. I will now say something like “I had to let her go” instead of “the bitch left me, now I’m all fucked up”… to show it was my… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@zipper

the bitch left me, now I’m all fucked up”

This is great as long as you say it with a grin and an upbeat tone.

WestIndianArchie
8 years ago

@HABD

Thanks, afternoon reading!

j
j
8 years ago

@hank

“Dude you’ve mentioned the local university a few times now. Go crack that. Go where they go.”

https://amanindemandradio.podbean.com/mobile/e/throwback-episode-14-of-the-christian-mcqueen-show-hooking-up-with-college-girls-special-guest-the-fast-food-sugar-daddy-giovanny/

Interview w/ 40 year old RooshV forum member Giovanny, who goes around college campuses picking up 18-19 yr old chicks. Skip to the 32 min mark. The relevant part is 32:10 – 36:00.

“If you see me walking around campus, you just think I’m a grad student who happens to be talking to a girl”.

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

Finally figured out what C2 is…I hope 1. I walked into Wally World and Hot Momma sees me…I ignore her and go to self checkout…she goes with a rag to polish a checkout at the edge of my field of vision…she goes to polish a checkout a little closer to the middle of my field of vision….then she moves to one even closer to the middle of my field of vision and closer to me and she says hi…the Ignore Game is over and I say hi and we chat and she has to go help someone else and she… Read more »

IRL
IRL
8 years ago

I learn more from unsolved cases, so I’ll just leave it here: It’s daytime, I’m at a small restaurant for a quick bite and a cute little waitress serves me. She gives me a menu and leaves. When I open it, I see a child had a go at it and drew big spirals with a crayon. The girl is back and asks what I’d like. I look at her, make a short pause, point at the spiral drawings and say “I’ll start with these snails, they look fantastic”. She laughs, apologizes for the menu and reaches for it to… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

IRL Heh that was my tip. And it is smooth. I would say need more attraction though. Next time try touching the tattoo while lasering. Bold move. But work girls are hard. Last night had a sweet little married girl entranced. She and ten of her coworkers at my hotel bar. Including her 50+ female vp boss. Early in the interaction her boss comes by to tell her, pointing at me and who doesnt know me from Adam ” I don’t like him”, which I found hilarious. Boss goes back to group, I am running my standard strong laser and… Read more »

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@Sentient

But work girls are hard.

Girls are just girls. Always game the cockblockers first…the 50 yo VP…make the VP feel like you are way out of her league and the younger girls are more appropriate for you

theasdgamer
theasdgamer
8 years ago

@IRL I look at her, make a short pause, point at the spiral drawings and say “I’ll start with these snails, they look fantastic”. She laughs, apologizes for the menu Her emotional balance is a little tipsy…she fucked up giving you a used menu. She’s wondering if you think she’s incompetent. I comment on it “cool tattoo… but aren’t you too young for that?”. She laughs and blushes, tries to get rid of the marks and justifies herself. And here is where the girl was socially off balance, per my model of Sexual Macrodynamics. YaReally would say that you spiked… Read more »

dr zipper
dr zipper
8 years ago

quick follow-up on the TRM scraper utility… – the TRM scraper utility is available anonymously at this link: http://ge.tt/9pC1bsm2 – to use, un-zip (hehe) and run/dbl-click the scrape_TRM.exe file (Windows only) – it also includes the entire Field Reports comments which I just scraped about 30 minutes ago… took about 5 minutes – open the FR file in Notepad (text editor) and copy/paste into the scraper’s Data textbox; click ‘Transform Data’ button and in a few seconds you’ll be able to sort/manage ALL FR comments and even see a reasonable rendering of the content – for full instructions, you should… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
8 years ago
Reply to  dr zipper

@Dr.Z, no problem, thanks for putting in the effort

j
j
8 years ago

@hank Myth of the Ghetto Alpha Male: “Like all young men of all races, they have testosterone surges making them aggressive and competitive. However they don’t have reliable older men to teach them how to channel this testosterone-fueled aggression positively, and this creates an insecurity in their male identity causing them to create their own hyperexaggerated ideal of what a man should be. Supermacho, obnoxious, fearless to the point of knuckleheaded, overaggressive…basically the parody of manhood we see in gangster rap. It’s overcompensation to the worst degree. But even though they are doing their best to be supernigga, they still… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

wtf?

Blaximus
Blaximus
8 years ago

@ J ” “Like all young men of all races, they have testosterone surges making them aggressive and competitive. However they don’t have reliable older men to teach them how to channel this testosterone-fueled aggression positively, and this creates an insecurity in their male identity causing them to create their own hyperexaggerated ideal of what a man should be. Supermacho, obnoxious, fearless to the point of knuckleheaded, overaggressive…basically the parody of manhood we see in gangster rap. It’s overcompensation to the worst degree. But even though they are doing their best to be supernigga, they still end up doing things… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 years ago

Hank “As in, I really like black chicks and all, but the whole race is soooooooo irritated on the slightest shit that I’m about to just never talk to them ever again” Buffering buffers are gonna buffer… @Guyswhotryandpickupgirls This happened recently, share with the group. Random bits. So girl is doing the name thing and then wants me to ask her name… So i say well this seems pretty important to you that I know your name… So what is it. (this was a neg, not a literal statement) and she counters with “guess”… So take hand, hold shake and… Read more »

SJF
SJF
8 years ago

“WTF?” Hank is indulging in Energy Vampirism. He has low energy. “Each person is supposed to live off his or her own life energy, happily and independently. However, many people are not in touch with this energy, or have been violated or traumatized in certain ways that make it difficult for them to contact their own life force or energy. These people may learn or be taught, often as children, how to steal energy from others.”–unattributed to to source. The way out for Hank is out there for the taking. And yes, he is Buffering. He has to. To do… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
8 years ago

lol
I’m gonna wait for the guy who’s actually in the culture I am referring to.

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