For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
:: Abortive / Potential FR – Saturday Night (10th August 2019) :: First up, this isn’t really a Field Report, but, I think that I had a v e r y narrow window as a a result of an IOI, which, had I captitalised on, might have been interesting … @Palmasailor already knows the details. Here goes: Was having a beer on Saturday night in a local bar near to where I live. A young couple came in (white Beta BF with ‘on-trend’ beard and slim Indian / Asian GF). When he went up to the bar to order her… Read more »
Palmasailor He’s in North Korea – inaccessible behind enemy lines with Stockholm Syndrome. That’s where it is and I need a life as well. If he emerges in here and I’ve told him that. But he has to emerge. This story is familiar to me. You can’t know how much of that brainwashing is sticking, and how much of it is “I see 4 lights” blather to keep her off of his case. You remember being his age, right? Sometimes it was like being a spy undercover in some dictatorship. One thing that might just happen: he gets out of… Read more »
habd on guard-dog-spinup other dudes out in the world end up in various flavors of dead…lol… but not kidding… One of those in my area a few years back. In an upscale housing area. Textbook – loud arguments from time to time, lovey dovey makup. Then one night she called an ambulance. He was bleeding out from the torso, still trying to cover for her by lying to the EMT’s, something about “ran into a …”. The blue pill will kill a man. She was a little clever; the cops never found whatever it was she stabbed him with. She… Read more »
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We all left the bar at the same time and on the walk I spoke to her about her university course and tried to lead the convo in a slightly more man-to-woman topics and she told me the guys her age don’t every approach her
That hunger is real. A man with clear vision can see it just about everywhere.
Time for this vid again. Entertaining and instructive.
@Gamenoob92 Just post an FR and you’ll get feedback on your sticking points. You’ll see if you’re ready for some 🔥🔥🔥 to get better. @TantumErgo When he went up to the bar to order her a cocktail, she did a 180-degree turn to look at me (my back was to her) and then flashed a smile at me (clearly an IOI). Had half-a-mind to get her number while the BF was at the bar, but didn’t move fast enough While going for the number after her just flashing a smile at you on her date(?) is not optimal (what had… Read more »
@IRL << When he went up to the bar to order her a cocktail, she did a 180-degree turn to look at me (my back was to her) and then flashed a smile at me (clearly an IOI). Had half-a-mind to get her number while the BF was at the bar, but didn’t move fast enough >> “While going for the number after her just flashing a smile at you on her date(?) is not optimal (what had she done to earn your interest?), I’m all for making a move and doing whatever comes to mind. You can’t get better… Read more »
@Palmsailor Palma “PS: (in packed carriage) “what shall I carry, I could steal your daughter and sell her body for medical science or take your luggage and rummage through your underwear?” – eye contact… and she flicks hair looks at ground.” “She mumbles that she hasn’t had any interesting underwear for some time, and her eyes flirt back and forth to mine while I’m smiling and so is she.” So she responded to your classic piss-taking humour with a not so tacit admission that she isn’t getting any good sex (if at all) plus the hair-preening. Strong IOIs = 1… Read more »
Hello everyone. My name is David and I am new here. I was referred The Rational Male to me by a close friend after experiencing a bit of sexual frustration and dissatisfaction in how my 3 year long relationship was playing out. I am almost done with the first book, and I have been reading the blog more lately, and it definitely speaks to me a lot. I am 17, and I will be a senior in High school and turn 18 soon. My girlfriend is a younger senior and just turned 17. Essentially what this issue I am experiencing… Read more »
And thank you all for your help with this it is greatly appreciated. I look forward to learning more and using this knowledge to better my life.
Somewhat of a PSA, after reading the past few pages, especially for the newbies and lurkers: Just post Field Reports if you want help. If you just post a FR, and ask for help, you’ll get it. I’ve never seen anyone here get bushwhacked for posting a strict FR and asking for advice. Your only goal in life could be to bang as many women as possible and you don’t even care if you end up homeless and drunk and shooting heroin behind a dumpster somewhere, but if you just share the FR and ask for advice, pretty much 100%… Read more »
@Softek +1 😊 Thoughtful and considered post with some good analogies and examples on what it means to communicate in a masculine frame. I deal with a lot of young men and women (late 20s / early 30s) in my line of work, and, while I expect the women to ramble on in their comminications, most of the young men do so as well, because nobody ever taught them how to get to the point, construct an argument, and be assertive in the way they express themselves; this is a hallmark in the way men communicate. Most of the young… Read more »
On a lighter note:
Fucking lol’d at J giving the thumbs up at the end of the video of him banging that chick. I watched it along with this playing in the background. If you time it right, right when he gives the thumbs up, it goes, “Mentos: the freshmaker!”
Also on a lighter note, and because some of us here obsess a bit about this kind of thing (you know who you are), when I saw this comic today I thought of you!
http://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/bigolstf.png?t=82BB0D
Welcome David. Break it off. You’ve started the relationship on the wrong foot and only with enormous amounts of recalibration could you reestablish yourself as Alpha. You’ve got physical and intellectual chops. That’s the basis for physical desire. That don’t mean shit after at this point. You’ve set a standard of equality in fact she will not relinquish. She’ll accept your Alpha only after you leave her…and for a year or five. Perhaps you can bang her at your 5 or 10 yr reunion in a better frame and make it go then. If you break it off quick and… Read more »
@DavidF170 / youngshagger You’re cruising in the right direction but still asking wrong questions (that’s ok, part of the process). Look, it’s not about her and it’s not about saving this LTR. It’s about you and your personal journey. Which may be without her and you need to be ready to accept it. I could say it’s possible to turn it around. At the same time being with just this one girl (soon in a Long Distance Relationship) will just delay inevitable: discovering of what you’re capable of and what you really want in life. Because you’ll try to accommodate… Read more »
Some great stuff going on… IRL – Never forget the meatballs!!! lol http://www.emikodavies.com/blog/nonna-annas-polpette/ But man that Blax stuff is really HoF / sidebar worthy… Good stuff Blax… Softek In a very weird way it’s like I went through a long rite of passage in my mid 20’s. Maybe in some tribal society or a masculine urban society I woulda gone through that in childhood. But here we are. Exactly this. Masculine development REQUIRES this kind of passage and development. And btw you can get it as a MC suburban kid as well… so get after it. And consider this, if… Read more »
Blax overworks it for young guys. They don’t connect to him as well as her like as lecturing the masses dilutes the meaning.
Speaking of meaninglessness, Blax recommends that young men have enough pointless sex until sex itself becomes pointless. Then, young men should search for meaning in sex.
Huh?
Anyone here see a downside to that?
Anyone?
@Palmasailor sounds like you’ve got it sorted… and props on that!!!!… just have to run out the clock… a couple points that i saw… Firstly this has only been a relatively recent “glitch on the Matrix” until about 9 months ago we had a very good close relationship. Because of that she’s having to pull out all the stops and use all possible propaganda, and a lot of this will be obvious to him. and Before it kicked off I had sent him various snippets on women and game. We were out somewhere and a woman was bitching her man… Read more »
@TantumErgo
@HABD
“same with girls… bc game is just the martial art of intersexual dynamics…lol… but not kidding…”
So … proficiency in one area (Martial Arts) ought to convey some transferable skills into the other (‘the Venusian Arts’ – as MM puts it).
Needing to make the transition.
yep… just different forms of blocking/punching/positioning/etc…lol…
good luck!
Tantum / IRL IRL is opening your eyes Tantum to “the game”… this isn’t really a Field Report, Well every observation from The Field is a FR… Don’t discount the dozens of short little daily interactions, you can learn from all of them. First you learn by spotting them in real time, then you learn by going through the process to wherever it leads. The more, the more learning potential. Was having a beer on Saturday night in a local bar near to where I live. A young couple came in (white Beta BF with ‘on-trend’ beard and slim Indian… Read more »
@ Sentient @ IRL https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-128/#comment-279615 Thank you both. “IRL is opening your eyes Tantum to “the game”…” Understood — and I have a lot of eye opening to do. “All right… So one of the tenets of The Game is “chess, not checkers”… Which is what Mystery broke down. so your “checkers” move is to bull up to her in secret and try and grab that IOI… Dog logic… 9/10 a cat is going to respond negative to this, because you are now chasing… She throws some bait out there. guys gobble it up. The “chess” move it to anticipate… Read more »
David, Imagine yourself with the same situation when you are 27 years old. Or 37. It’s enough to make a guy puke. You must realize the opportunity you have next fall when you go to college. A whole new adventure. And wrestling is a microcosm of masculinity. Isn’t it? One of the most important thing in wrestling is individual excellence, but also team cohesiveness. Team cohesiveness in terms of a tribe competing against other tribes. A brotherhood. Do what you want with this girl during high school, but don’t be a fool and thing she is of any value to… Read more »
😂😂😂😂😂
Dogfish!!!!!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
@Sentient
“dogfish”…
lol… that was great!!!
i believe the ‘sphere just got a new label/definition…lol
good luck!
Sentient Dudes get touchy if they get ” critiqued ” because all that matters is putting penis in vagina, period, but imo that kind of ” sex ” is like servicing a chick. It was either you or a dildo. Considering female anatomy ( nerve concentrations and all ) I can’t see how it’s possible that a chick in doggie, which is the deepest penetration, could just be casually hanging out while getting thrusted. ” Doggie ” is supposed to be an ” oh shit!!! ” moment for her, not an ” okay, I’m going to do this ” type… Read more »
“her phone was right there, at least she wasn’t actually on it” After our third session. Her friend facetimed her from Uber. She had just left, some dudes place and refused to fuck him because he had a small dick. Once she saw it, she said “she’s not that type of girl” and we laughed about it. Things got sexual, then I started escalating, and began fucking her. I had mentioned how I have this fetish for fucking girls while they’re talking on the phone. Might upload the clip about us laughing about it when, when I get home. Very… Read more »
“imo that kind of ” sex ” is like servicing a chick. It was either you or a dildo”
lol y’all real tempting me to post that 3 hour clip
J
Is that an avatar of you about to mount a cake?
I have this fetish for fucking girls while they’re talking on the phone.
Well don’t be a piker, try giving her a book next time then… Maybe an iced tea on the side table. lol Sounds like some hot sex.
There is some strange fetish porn where chicks are on their computers and stuff, oblivious to whatever the guy is doing. And this is “validating” to guys? Strange times.
Palma
“He plays hockey…”
Nuff said right there. All will be well.
“There is some strange fetish porn.”
As in….talking to her boyfriend or her mom (that one was more for lolz than turn on tbh) on the phone…trying to keep her composure while I’m fucking her.
But keep trying tho
Please. No more ” sex ” clips.
Thanks.
@Palmasailor i just want to point out some things here… definitely not trying to second guess your situ… buuut… lol @HABD There is a repeated message that is coming down the pipe that I should “Try Harder” or “I’m not making any effort”. i’m assuming this is by your son?… it’s either parroting your ex’s talking points.. OR it’s his own thoughts (and how else could he ask for more time with you without pissing off his mother?…serious question)… either way, is your ‘not agreeing’ to make that trip with him, you pushing back bc it’s something that your ex… Read more »
@ Culum Thanks for the advice on the volume of approaches question I had. There are certain people in the community that say, as a beginner just open a lot and there are challenges tailored around opening to overcome AA and then there are people who say that is not essential and their advice is from the beginning to pick sets which are more conducive to hook such as girls that are stationary, walking slowly, are alone etc. Which approach did you take to overcome AA in your early days? I started on a beginner challenge of just opening a… Read more »
Gamenoob “And yes I still am not completely comfortable with opening when other people are around, when the girl is walking fast etc. ” And moving to sniping solo girls is only going to make this harder. Olde Skool Game was about identifying and overcoming your “sticking points” by taking “massive action”. Not by using hacks and seeking cheat codes around them. Though those are easier sells. This is what “putting in the work” is about. Not jetting off to seemingly greener pastures. Facts are facts. Hot girls are almost always going to be with someone. You need to be… Read more »
On this
“(white Beta BF with ‘on-trend’ beard and slim Indian / Asian GF). ”
Tread carefully in analyzing other guys. It rarely leads to good outcomes. For example this guy might appear “beta” or “Soy” or whatever but he is likely fucking her.
Focus always on you and the girl and your interaction with her. That’s what it is about.
Otherwise you may misjudge the guy in either direction and set yourself up for failure. He is not the target.
@Sentient << On this “(white Beta BF with ‘on-trend’ beard and slim Indian / Asian GF). ” Tread carefully in analyzing other guys. It rarely leads to good outcomes. For example this guy might appear “beta” or “Soy” or whatever but he is likely fucking her. >> Good point, and I will need to work on this. This isn’t so much about analysis for me, as an instinctive / intuitive ‘sizing-up’. I lived in a tough part of North-East Scotland for almost 10 years — and, at that time — your survival depended on your ability to figure out whether… Read more »
@palmasailor well, overall, that s*cks… but it’s always my position that there is no such thing as a ‘set too far’…lol and that includes family relationships…lol just gotta bring your RP ‘A game’… and it just depends on what you actually want to see in the world of your life… what ‘s your best case scenario?… i’m pretty sure you can get there… just might take some time and effort… @HABD It was about self reliance, and rightly or wrongly I didn’t back down. I never usually back down on much and that’s what’s built me and him both for… Read more »
@Gamenoob
I’m not on the GC forum. I recommended it, so you can get feedback on your field reports from the guys over there in addition to over here. The good posters (the GC writers) are in my group chat, and unfortunately don’t post much (if at all) over there. But feedback is feedback.
One of them, Grand Pooba, has posted a couple a good field reports that you might find helpful:
Daygame LR. Opening a girl walking fast:
https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20796
Nightgame LR featuring Bacchus and Kant:
https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20695
re: dogfish sex (lol) No comment on J’s post. Just using this as an opportunity to make a point I’m quite adamant about: Quality over quantity. I’ve said it before: both are ideal, but if you have to have one, quality wins every time. The obsession with N count really does a number on guys, and puts women on a pedestal. If a guy has fucked only one girl, but has done so hundreds or thousands of times, and every single time was intense, great sex, that counts for a lot. My N count is 1 if we’re talking about… Read more »
Hey all. Thanks for your responses. Another logistic thing to be considered in this LTR is that her family is in a significantly higher socioeconomic class than my own… her family has gifted me a car, a cruise, a vacation, and they have a cruise booked for next July that they already paid for, so I would look like the biggest douche and it most likely would not end well. (I can deal with that however I am a big boy) and as far as now the sex is 100 percent legal, but i will admit their was a time… Read more »
Lmfao the funny part about the car is that they already transferred the car title to me so they cannot do shit.
“If a guy has fucked only one girl, but has done so hundreds or thousands of times, and every single time was intense, great sex, that counts for a lot.” ya that’s cool and all but I need variety like my man spongebob needs water Variety + quality Nah, but sex with this girl was all kinds of desire sex. From picking her up in the club (“you’re making me horny” were her last words she said before I tossed her ass in the cab). To riding in the cab while I positioned her head on my lap, and placed… Read more »
@ Palma
“Fuck them, and their attempts to control you with their beta bux.”
meet
“offer to buy him a new skateboard if he passes a small compliance test (which he’s done before) but means he doesn’t get it “free””.
Now put yourself in your son’s shoes.
@Palmsailor @youngshagger THIS… “You’ve just made my night Give the car back. Give me your PayPal and I’ll send you £500 for a scrapper. Fuck them, and their attempts to control you with their beta bux. Clear her out now. “Won’t end well” who the fuck do they thing they’re dealing with. Seriously – sack her and deliver their fucking car back. PayPal to palmasailor@outlook.com” LOL! youngshagger (Loving the name-chsnge! H/T Palma. 😊) Your LTR GF and her family are trying to ‘buy’ you…. I was 19 when I had my first LTR GF… I went through the whole nine… Read more »
So you would agree that them buying all that shit for me was a means of control and incentive for me to serve their daughter? Even though it would appear as them being generous to say my family? Regardless of this current LTR, one thing I have decided and I know is that I want a family (preferably a large one if I can support it) in my life. Long Term MGTOW or strictly PUA as a means to fuck multiple women long term is not something that interests me. If anything I know my goals and values align with… Read more »
@TantumErgo Thankyou you are damn right honestly.
@youngshagger
There are some very knowledgeable and wise heads in this forum:
@ Sentient
@ IRL
@ Culum Struan
@ SKF
@ Palmasailor
@ EhIntellect
… to name but a few… and whose advice and experience is solid gold.
You have some good things going for you: You are only 17, and have “physical and mental chops”.
Plus, you have come here to RM FR, and have already started your study of RP.
Go with this, and you will be fine.
I am three times your age, and only coming to my RP awakening now…
Tantum
“Another logistic thing to be considered in this LTR is that her family is in a significantly higher socioeconomic class than my own…
You are confusing logistics with semantics.
Those things are not logistics, except in your head.
Eh See my statement about variety and spongebob, then look again at my advice about banging as many chicks until.my See why I say what I said? There’s no words to reason with a young or old guy that says stuff like ” need ” and ” variety “. ” Need ” . Important distinction that speaks volumes. ” Need “. ” Need sex “. ” Need variety “. The only way to break this long enough for a man to stop being needy, like a child, is to flood him with what he says he needs. My grandmother tried… Read more »
@palmasailor couple quick points… @HABD No court order. But it should have been in my favour which is why his mother shit the bed for a solid 6 months while she kicked it round the system until he hit 16 and he was out of the court jurisdiction. She will have been expecting me to win in court. I’ve been in front of more judges personally representing my company with no lawyer more than most lawyers have been in front of judges and she’s witnessed that from the sidelines. The new bloke didn’t get laid for THAT 6 months lol…… Read more »
Do you guys think this situation is too far gone at this point? What if I tested out some dread games?
@Palmasailor I am really considering the offer. I think when I go through with this I got to give it back and start clean.
“Do you guys think this situation is too far gone at this point?”
The situation is not to far gone. Your girlfriend is. She is too set in her ways. And she will take her “advantage” to the grave.
You want to be with her when you go to college? Why?
Because her parents are wealthy?
What is important is you focusing on your wrestling and your future career.
You shouldn’t think about “settling down” for another 10 years. Get down facts and understanding. You’ll have more wisdom to choose via free will when you are 27.
@Gamenoob92 First – what Sentient said. In spades. I’m not lecturing you from on high – approaching is still the weakest link in my Game too. But I did at least face it head and make significant improvements when I did the 400 Open challenge (asking 400 girls for directions in a weekend). If you look at this FR thread and go back to about June 2018, you’ll see my FRs (I think the second half of June sometime). Second, I think the worst thing you can do is to keep flipping between different systems (which is what you’re doing… Read more »
Oh and Gamenoob – if you actually do the 400 Open Challenge, I think it’s fine to start with the “easier” girls – stationary, alone etc. The most important thing is to get over the initial awkwardness and build momentum. ONce you’ve built that momentum (and your subconscious gets that the girls are not going to whip out a can of Mace and spray you for asking for directions), I think you’ll naturally find it pretty easy to open so-called “harder” sets – specially since you are NOT trying to pull them or get a number etc – you don’t… Read more »
Oh and HABD – you really think even a brand name Ivy League college is a bad deal now (outside STEM subjects)? Why? Just because of the financial burden for most families? Or other reasons? Still a route into (or to remain in) the UMC isn’t it, entirely separate from the knowledge gained?
@ Blax “The only way to break this long enough for a man to stop being needy, like a child, is to flood him with what he says he needs.” I understand the above and respectfully disagree and on attested reality. First thought: You are not flooding anyone with sex, nor cars, nor huge 401K’s, nor tight family ties…with any of your words…no one has become a Blax knock off here. Those are words of success that appeal to you. You did that, want that and assume that will work for other men. It doesn’t work that way…you know this…every… Read more »
@ j I’m not jumping to any conclusions, personally. Doesn’t matter what anyone here thinks, as long as you’re doing what you want to do and following the Platinum Rule, that’s all that matters. I’m just making a general point that guys like me aren’t doing themselves any favors by freaking themselves out over N count, especially if they’ve had at least some good sexual experiences and understand what desire sex is like. That’s all I’m sayin’. If it came off as criticizing you personally, or the vid, that wasn’t my intention. I was making a separate point just inspired… Read more »
“I think when I go through with this I got to give it back and start clean.”
it isn’t about “banging as many chicks as possible” or being needy. I just want (need, like RSD, is apparently a trigger word for you) it (variety) when I want it is all. I don’t: Eat the same meals everyday. Listen to the same music everyday. Watch the same movie everytime I want to watch a movie. Go to the same bars every time I want to pickup a new girl. Wear the same clothes every day. Perform one sex position when I have sex. I LOVE eating Reuben burgers. I LOVE listening to J. Balvin’s music. I LOVE the… Read more »
@ j Don’t misconstrue it. It isn’t that I don’t desire variety; I just have a ton of mental blockages keeping me from it. I believe as men we’re generally all programmed to crave as much variety as possible. When I was in that “monogamous” relationship (in the beginning I literally told her I didn’t want a girlfriend because I wanted to sleep with other women), I was craving sex with other women, and craving it heavily. I just didn’t have what it took to act on those desires. And it’s something I’m still working on and need to get… Read more »
you really think even a brand name Ivy League college is a bad deal now (outside STEM subjects)? Why? Just because of the financial burden for most families? Or other reasons? Still a route into (or to remain in) the UMC isn’t it, entirely separate from the knowledge gained? My POV: higher-tier Ivy (Harvard, Yale, Princeton), or equivalent (MIT, Stanford, Chicago) may be worth it if any of the following apply: (1) you’re coming from an UMC or UMC+ background, and your family has connections that you can parley the degree with to get a good start after graduation, or… Read more »
So what do you think the best way to do this is? Just be blunt tell her “I do not want to be in a relationship anymore” (drop off car) and ghost or what? And I got to look at some local cars in my area to see what is the best car to get. And I will have to transfer the title back over to her family.
😆
So essentially after I break it off clean I ghost? And they will come back for the car and when they fo I just give it to them on my terms?
@youngshagger “So essentially after I break it off clean I ghost? And they will come back for the car and when they fo I just give it to them on my terms?” That’s Option 2 — If you want to try and hold on to the car for a little while… Option 1 — You return the car as part of the whole package of breaking off with your LTR GF. The advantage to you here (balanced against the short-term inconvenience of not having a car) is that you are in control and retain / regain frame, thereby dictating terms.… Read more »
youngshagger Nothing flamboyant, quick like a band-aid. Return the car, if she’s not there, just leave it, keys in it. Tell her it’s over, whenever it does come up but don’t pursue it and use the classic “It’s me babe, not you.” (and not laughing). Feel free to fuck her friends before you leave for college as they’ll all be on the hunt for the pre-college-departure bang AND they know you pulled a DHV move dumping her. You know, youngshagger….she may be planning a quickie break-up already…you’d never know…the race is on! High-stakes relationship chicken! Who’ll act first?? Who’s the… Read more »
Shagger,
Do not do this…..
Consider all this deprogramming, my man.
youngshagger
Learn this term: “Strings attached”
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/strings-attached
In your case it’s not so much a string they’ve attached, it’s more like a rope. Or a chain.
Pay attention to what Palmasailor is telling you.
Tantum “This isn’t so much about analysis for me, as an instinctive / intuitive ‘sizing-up’. ” And as a guy sizing up a guy you are likely right. But as a girl sizing up a guy it’s very different. So once you start acting towards the guy like you think he is, you are already off base from what she thinks. A few degrees off base at the start is enough. And now you’ve put yourself and him in competing terms in your mind. When thw focus needs to be on her and how she is reacting. Sure you can… Read more »
@Sentient https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-129/#comment-279681 “And now you’ve put yourself and him in competing terms in your mind. When thw focus needs to be on her and how she is reacting. Sure you can AMOG guys but again that’s all in relation to her and she is reacting to it.” And this is what I missed… BF said to another couple in the bar that he lives locally, so there is the slimmest of chances that I might bump into them again. BTW: In addition to MM, I have now bookmarked YaReally Archive http://yareallyarchive.com/ and also downloaded Book of YaReally — with additional… Read more »
palmasailor check the email I sent you please.
@Everyone: some really good stuff in the FR section. Thanks Rollo for the knowledge of the postings and for hosting the community. @Sentient: “Dogfish” LOL I think we are going to remember that one for a while. @J: don’t you recognize you are being AMOGged? You don’t need to justify yourself 🙂 @youngshagger: you weren’t happy with how things are going and you are getting excellent advice here. Well done for following through with it, most young guys wouldn’t. Your future looks really bright – but you will ALWAYS have to work for it. Burden of performance… Tell me: have… Read more »
@IAS
“@J: don’t you recognize you are being AMOGged?”
lol obviously. I’ve always been a cocky son of bitch, so I’m used to guys tryin amog me for it. But it just motivates me to keep on pushing rather than let it bring me down. So I appreciate it 🤗.
Tantum
So, much homework.
This is another good read. But wait until you’ve gone through MM thoroughly. “Tyler Durden” was the nom de guerre of Owen Cook, who was an early MM disciple and went on to co found RSD.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/276760/Tyler-Durden-The-Tyler-Digest
Little spergy at times but some very good illustrations of concepts played out in the field.
@ Sentient
“Tantum
So, much homework.
This is another good read. But wait until you’ve gone through MM thoroughly. “Tyler Durden” was the nom de guerre of Owen Cook, who was an early MM disciple and went on to co found RSD.
Little spergy at times but some very good illustrations of concepts played out in the field.”
Many thanks, Sentient.
So my reading list is:
MM (which I have started) – plus supporting videos
YaReally
Tyler Durden
Tantum
There she is. The girl I want. She is surrounded by guys. The tall one has her fullattention. He is very big. He is wickedly funny and his whole group hangs on hisevery word. Perhaps he is an athlete. Perhaps he is Mafioso. Perhaps he is asuccessful businessman. Or a movie producer. Whatever it is that he is, he is fuckingnasty. But it doesn’t matter. I look straight at the girl, and the group feels theenergy in the room change. The girl looks at me and drops the guys’ hand.Immediately everyone in the group tenses up. Some shit is about… Read more »
O/T
Inverted yield curve. 10 year below the 2 year, wtf?
Technically, recession imminent, historically. Those with heavy investment in markets, keep your eyes open today/this week and hold on to your balls.
@Culum Oh and HABD – you really think even a brand name Ivy League college is a bad deal now (outside STEM subjects)? Why? Just because of the financial burden for most families? Or other reasons? Still a route into (or to remain in) the UMC isn’t it, entirely separate from the knowledge gained? +1 on Novaseeker’s excellent analysis… i would go so far as to say that he didn’t go far enough in stating the in-group that might benefit from attending those Ivy league schools… My POV: higher-tier Ivy (Harvard, Yale, Princeton), or equivalent (MIT, Stanford, Chicago) may be… Read more »
Note that while it still exists the benefit to the UMC is being actively destroyed by the progressive contingent and that MIT, U of Michigan and RPI rank higher in the STEM field than most of the Ivy League schools. Cornell is still hanging on.
the benefit to the UMC is being actively destroyed by the progressive contingent
Indeed. Really accelerated from eight years ago…
Financial markets have been unlinked from reality for a long time. I don’t think they can ever stop it. Particularly now that all of the West is embarking on Project Free everything. It will all tank eventually but probably not for far longer than any of us can imagine.
In other words we are now fully immersed in a post-rational world. Every facet.
Sorry to harsh any Good Vibrations going on out there.
😁
kfg Note that while it still exists the benefit to the UMC is being actively destroyed by the progressive contingent What’s that Chinese word again? Baizu? Baidu? Oh, wait…Baizuo… and that MIT, U of Michigan and RPI rank higher in the STEM field than most of the Ivy League schools. Out here in flyover, all the good students in high school are told how they can succeed at an Ivy. The people telling them that all graduated from a Tier 4 State U, and don’t get the fact that Joe / Jane Honor Society from Flyover High is going to… Read more »
Sentient
In other words we are now fully immersed in a post-rational world
Been that way for a while now. Enjoy the honks!
How do you delete prior comments?
@Novaseeker and @HABD – thank you. It’s changed quite a bit since I was in college 20 years ago then. I was in a mid/lower tier Ivy doing non-STEM adnd I knew several “generic white guys from Ohio” who made it into the UMC. I assume it is linked to the whole “pie is shrinking” thing HABD and I were talking about a few months ago. About how it is harder to find common ground and different political groups (aka “stakeholders”) are more polarized etc – because as the the pie shrinks, everyone fights harder to keep their piece and… Read more »
@youngshagger
You can’t – unless you ask Rollo and he does it for you
Hmm because my first post where I used my name I feel like I said stuff that could reveal my identity and I do not want to get doxed.
Sentient and Palma ” Financial markets have been unlinked from reality for a long time. I don’t think they can ever stop it. Particularly now that all of the West is embarking on Project Free everything. It will all tank eventually but probably not for far longer than any of us can imagine.” 100% true. If inverted yields historically point to pending recession, then a ” recession ” should be forthcoming. But as you rightly say, ” eventually ” because reality doesn’t exist. That’s why miraculously we’ve had practically no inflation, no matter how many trillions of dollars…er… ” dollars… Read more »
Culum
@palmasailor your story speaks to me. I am ending it tomorrow by going to do it in person at her apartment. I am going to drop off the car and tell her it is over.
Culum
I assume it is linked to the whole “pie is shrinking” thing
Could be. Also could be overproduction of elites: the pie is growing but the number of pie-eaters is growing faster. The effects are pretty much the same, though. Partly because a “college degree” from 1999 is not quite the same thing as a “college degree” from 2019, and neither one is the same thing that Granpa Boomer got back in 1969..
@Culum @Novaseeker and @HABD – thank you. It’s changed quite a bit since I was in college 20 years ago then. I was in a mid/lower tier Ivy doing non-STEM adnd I knew several “generic white guys from Ohio” who made it into the UMC. I assume it is linked to the whole “pie is shrinking” thing HABD and I were talking about a few months ago. About how it is harder to find common ground and different political groups (aka “stakeholders”) are more polarized etc – because as the the pie shrinks, everyone fights harder to keep their piece… Read more »
Culum
Maybe the pie is shrinking, but economically, the ” pie ” is mostly being eaten by a handful of folks and everyone else is fighting over the leftovers.
But even the ” pie ” isn’t what pie has been traditionally described as.
Youngshagger,
Doxxed?
Fagetabbboutit.
No one here cares to dig too deeply unless you’re a jerk. Your not so chill.
I gave my life story and have zero to lose as I don’t worry about online threats.
What’s the worst that could happen?
ZFG rookie of the year?
No one’s gonna fuck with you enough to matter.
youngshagger,
In wrestling, you own your mistakes and hold your head high with a clear conscience you did your best.
Fuck the peanut gallery. Fuck those guys who look to year you down. No fear.
I have a question regarding night game. Recently, I´ve been going out alone doing cold approaches at various nightclubs and I always seem to be getting this question from women “Where are your friends?”. I usually just make up an excuse and tell them that my friends had to go home or that they don´t want to go out since they are nerdy and prefer playing video games instead. They tend to find this a bit odd. So, I want to know how do I deal with this question, should I just tell them the truth, that I go out… Read more »
@Ehintellect Fuck it I have said nothing wrong, you are right.😎
“Where are your friends?”.
I love it, really isn’t my day to watch them but if I had to guess they are probably still out trying to break my high base jump record.
If they were up her ass she would know where they are.
BigPapiMario “Where are your friends?”. Oh, man. A basic shit test to see why you don’t have a wingman or a girl. Let your mind roam free… “Friends? Everyone is my friend. Well, maybe not you…[smirk]”. “Most people can’t keep up with me…” “They all went to the beanbag championships. That’s too dangerous for me. Still faced Steven Wright delivery: “I keep them in a box at home….Under the bed….To scare the monsters away.” Depends on what you are most confident with. Just don’t be all Bob Beta earnest, explaining in detail where each of your friends is that night… Read more »
Papi
I game almost exclusively solo in random cities. “Where are your friends” is just a shit test. The answer does not matter but how you answer it does.
So no need to try and ” solve for girl”. This is what agree and amplify and cocky funny are for. Pass that shit test, smirk and hold your frame. Then flip the script.
“Three basic options Ignore and continue Agree and amplify Reduce to absurdity NEVER try to directly answer their questions.” Gold. Thanks for posting that. I need to ingrain simple things like this into my Frame. It’s such an overlooked yet common mistake: someone asking you a question, and getting sucked into their Frame by believing you have to answer it. This is a very deep “weed” for me that I need to uproot. Even just sitting here alone late at night, getting ready for bed, I can banter back and forth with myself in this manner. “Where are you from?… Read more »
@HABD – thank you. @BigPapiMario – the others have covered the main points, but I’ll add a couple of things based on my experience as a guy who has been out alone a lot: I rarely get asked this. Sometimes yes, but it’s rare. I strongly suspect you are getting asked this a lot because something in your vibe is giving the girl the impression that you are uncomfortable with being out alone, so she shit tests you on it. If you chill out about being alone I suspect the question will stop. This question is NOT always a shit… Read more »
Softek “My mind is going blank right now even just asking myself a question and responding to it…like I have to actually stop and think of something to say, that isn’t a generic, boring response. Something absurd that doesn’t directly answer the question.” If only some bright PUA could invent a way to deal with these kinds of situations that repeat over and over and over in all social interactions… “Who are you here with?” “What’s your name?” “Where are you from?” “What is your name?” “What do you do?” “Where do you live?” “How are you/How’s it going?” Etc.… Read more »
Palma Culum “Even if you take on board that the question is not always the test why even take the risk by going even close to “answering” it?” I get what Culum is saying. A lot depends on how it comes up and how it is delivered. If it’s what I suspect Papi is getting… Papi runs up to a four set, all backs to him. “Hey guys How is your night!” Tail wagging earnestly. Girl turns her head a bit over her shoulder, look him up amd down dismissively, “where are your friends?” And back turns… Vs. You sauntering… Read more »