For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
Virgin Know It Alls – VKIA’s
It’s a gamma tell… and a thing apparently. There have been enough of them. I see correlation. I suspect causation. But let’s be proved wrong, shall we?
@newlyaloof not a bad analogy. maybe to some it makes sense and clarifies things, but to me not at all. I don’t mean to be a nitpicky dick lol, but this whole area of approaching/opening/being-outcome-independent is a big issue for me and any guy with AA whose actively going out, talking to girls and trying to deal with it. Like, it’s personal for me lol. The reason being is because when I go out with friends sometimes, they’ll toss in this advice of “dude girls like a confident guy. just be confident” or “bro just don’t worry about what happens”… Read more »
@ Sentient
I hear you brother. It’s just a little mind boggling how some dudes go on the offensive when you’re just honestly trying to give them something.
But I’m having a cup o’ Joe and contemplating the arctic blast headed my way. Safespace will be A-Okay just doing what he’s doing. Of course.
@Blaximus “Oh shit. The YaReally/scray ” why should we listen to you and not rsd ” argument. Hmmm. I know dudes that are probably fucking chicks right now who’ve never seen Julien or Jabba(???wtf??) or Tyler or Ozzie or Harriet or Dave or Eddie. Try to be helpful… lol.” Bro, I’m trying to helpful by saying that, for a newb, trying to be “carefree” and “outcome independent” when making an approach/open doesn’t just happen by telling yourself so. When I go out, and even before going out, and EVEn throughout my entire day, I’ve literally told myself over 100 or… Read more »
@safespaceplaypen
lol bruh….shaky legs belly buttahflies or w/e
You do it or you don’t that’s it……
If you want it you’ll go get it and do what you gotta do bby . Now log off the internetz
@Safe Space Playpen: ” . . . unless i’m in a ballsy mood, which happens on occasion.”
Do that some more.
@Blaximus: ” . . . contemplating the arctic blast headed my way.”
March wants to prove the point that it’s still winter, even if we have had a bit of spring like weather. It’s the predicted snow that’s pissing me off. We’ve just got rid of the last and have clean dry roads. After the storm it’s going to get warm again, but the roads will be a sloppy mess for a week and the trails for two.
@ safespace Okay I’ll bite. Let me ask you a serious question. No joking around. Are you nervous generally, or is it amplified more when women are involved? Fwiw, I’m not a pua, and I don’t have any videos…okay, I said no joking but that was a joke. But when I speak of internalizing, do you get what I mean? I’d bet lots of guys go to multiple bootcamps and still have relatively little success because they are being taught to tell themselves something that they just can’t believe. It’s about belief, internalizing and understanding that women are just girls… Read more »
@ kfg
…. and ” they ” are calling for a nor’easter next week. Hurray!!!!
@Sentient I actually go out every single day and try the advice I read here and other places. I come across my own experiences and than I refer them back to what i’ve read here and elsewhere. I’m not telling anyone how to learn game or to fuck girls. I’m saying that claiming the “FIs pushing on you” or “it’s your ego” or “just be outcome independent” is useless. How do I know? Because i actually go out and try to “be outcome independent” and other ideas lol. Like, lol, in a few minutes I’ll be showering up and going… Read more »
@Blaximus “Are you nervous generally, or is it amplified more when women are involved?” Pretty much only when women are involved, especially hot women I really want to fuck. Today, for example, I went out for about two hours just to get myself chatting to some women. I started by asking some girls for the time, then time and directions, then time and directions and their opinions and stuff. The thing was, I could easily ask some random ugly women or fat woman or old woman this info, but when it came to young women I COULD see myself fucking,… Read more »
Safe
Step one… Actually be out… Don’t be posting on Saturday nights…
Report back.
Or Friday nights… 🌙
I have no idea what day it is…
Ps… A good goal for an incel to pursue is having sex with a woman. That is the goal right?
yep. that’s what i try to do every day and night
@ safespace Okay. So I’m gonna tell you a bunch of shit that you already know, but I don’t know how not to remind you of the obvious. Technically, there’s no difference between the fat and ugly chicks you could ask for the time, and the hot chick. Just girls and all that. The anxiety you’re feeling is all in your head. 100%. You’re doing what metric tons of dudes do all the time ( and I wish I had a magic potion to make them stop immediately ), and that is pedestalizing a ( strange ) woman because of… Read more »
Just what the hell is going on here with Mr. Safe Space Playpen. (Ironic avatar Name (congers Beta McBuffering) and Ironic James Dean avatar picture (cultural icon of teenage disillusionment and social estrangement. Shit any time now he’s going to go all Catcher in the Rye on us).
I thought you were in school. Do you have any social circle game at all? You have not mentioned once about hitting on girls on campus. I repeat, just what the hell? Do you have any outside interests? What the hell are you studying? Philosophy?
Safespace yep. that’s what i try to do every day and night Step 2. Actually TALK to women [and try to fuck them]. You’ve been out for hours “in the field” walking around doing sweet fuck all and not talking or trying to fuck women. HABD told you open 400 women this weekend and you are here fucking around playing with your dick? and lecturing about how special your snowflake is? fuck off. How about you get to work on that? 3 or 4 opens a weekend night is not going to do it Hoss… And a side note –… Read more »
Safespace
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Pray to the Gronk God for wisdom and strength…
Then go try to fuck 400 women by Tuesday…
Report back.
Gronk God says – “follow me little bro! walk to the light!”
@Safespace It may not be coming across very well here but I know what you are trying to say. The guys here are legit trying to help you so try to keep it in perspective. Pimps like Blaximus are excellent to listen to because they are anchored in their own MPO. He has only told a few of his past stories, but an incel would kill to experience even just one of his ‘she just came over to give me a BJ’ stories. Others here are, what I would call complete keyboard theorists. It’s usually the Spergy autist types who… Read more »
@safespece, okay then, how about this experiment. You admit that certain girls that aren’t super hot don’t give you AA. How about for the next month, you exclusively try to hook up with these girls and use them for practice with The Sex God Method & Squirting 101 technique (Google them both – free pdf and videos). Since you won’t have AA, you should be able to have good interactions that lead to sex with these girls and get practice for when your AA finally dies out for the hot girls. Your way causes you to get no sex and… Read more »
Hey all. Just quickly popping in. Not posted in a week or 2. Not a great deal to report. Still trying hard to get m first lay in the best part of a year, with the goal being to get laid once this damn year! Read the mystery method as i’d promised. Tried a few opinion openers and other little routines, but starting to wonder if they are more for the US girls as opposed to the Brits, as most looked a bit confused. One said ”Can’t you ask any girls you actually know for their opinion?!!”. Will persevere. AA… Read more »
What does your analysis of women’s sexual strategy say about women’s support for third world refugees, if anything?
Charles,
Don’t know if this is what you are asking about it but Rollo had a War Brides of Europe essay.
https://therationalmale.com/2016/02/03/the-war-brides-of-europe/
@Safe Just ask EVERY person you run into some question like “what’s the most fun thing to do on a weekend night” or “who throws the best parties” or “what even is coming to town that is the most fun” Those questions will all give you high value. Keep your dick under control and hotties won’t trigger low confidence in you so much. Here’s one technique to do that. Keep calling out psychically to the girls long before you begin your time of approach, “Be ready, girls!” Really look forward to engaging them. Believe that they are lucky to get… Read more »
CSP
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Well, I took action last night, so i’m proud of myself. Made a fair few approaches which is good since as I mentioned, my AA has come back rather strong recently. I made about 15 approaches, but lots of them were short sets, instant blowouts, non verbal openers etc, so i’ll report on the few that stick out in my head. Approach 1 – was dancing in a bar and there’s two hotties next to me. I open with a mystery method opinion opener. (recently completed the book off of the back of a recommendation on this site). She starts… Read more »
@pitbikemike Nicely done, good to read about your progress and pushing your comfort zone. What I tend to do with a girl who isn’t instantly receptive (which might be an IOD or the girl is shy/boring) is I avoid asking question after question – this quite often is just acting in her frame and hoping she’ll contribute somehow. Instead, I use the environment and engage people around me which accomplishes display of low investment/interest in her plus gives me some DHV as a social guy. If this is difficult or I can’t immediately see an opportunity to merge/expand the interaction,… Read more »
Good stuff Mike. Props for staying in set.
@Pair o’ Neurons
Others here are, what I would call complete keyboard theorists. It’s usually the Spergy autist types who read every single living thing under the sun about PUA life and social dynamics, but it has been years and years since they have felt (if ever) that pressure you feel when you are single, alone and entering a bar full of ‘better-than-you’ male competitors and what you personally define as hot-as-shit groupings of HB females.
This is pussy shit. Address people directly if you have problems. Get some balls.
@SJF thanks, will check it out!
“Others here are, what I would call complete keyboard theorists” O.k., fella…check this theory out. My teenage boy is a year into learning, practicing PUA. He’s now opening hostesses by default as his diner job gives him practical experience, conversations. It’s hard work for him, he devoured the theory and now the burden is lighter. I’m out with the family for dinner last night, my boy gets up during dinner, walks to the teen hostess and he chats her up why she doesn’t wear name tags, what school she attends…. He then pulls her number, but as he’s gotten fake… Read more »
@Ajax Parallax Good stuff from all the newbies trying to get laid in posting their reports and questions. I agree with you Ajax and your helpful suggestions It is definitely something making you feel anxious – what is it? Why do you think girls are not chasing you? Safespace’s troubles go far beyond beginner PUA game. Until he fixes those things, he’s going to face severe stumbling blocks and ego buffers that prevent his mindset from having abundance and outcome independence. And as for KJ’ing, it is Safespace that is keyboard jockeying. He’s given a platform to get advice and… Read more »
May be someone can help me. I have been clubbing all of my married life. It was not until I read Rollo that I started to see the connection between my wife’s eagerness for sex and my going out. I probably did not observe this before because I was not looking. But I have since confirmed the connection. I have read that people who sleep around have self esteem issues. Not sure about that. May be its true, may be its not. I do it coz it is fun. However of late I am finding myself wanting to stop clubbing.… Read more »
Hahaha “entrepreneur of the sexual market” – I’m stealing that SJF. @Pitbikemike – overall great progress I think. You’re doing well and overall on the right path as far as I can see. Just a question of keeping it up. With the girl you met for the second time (Approach 4?) you probably had a “window closing” moment when you didn’t close her when you went to her place. I suspect there isn’t much you could have done when you met her again but major props for giving it a serious shot again. But you took it so far that… Read more »
Cheupez
Any advice?
Do that which you wish to do. Be in your frame. Live your life. Take pleasure where you find it. Don’t stress the rest.
Culum
I’m just a curator.
Credit that to Nick Krauser. I just started reading Daygame Mastery. Not necessarily strictly Pua tactics. For enhancing life skills. It’s well written and laid out well his INTJ mastery.
@pitbikemike Still trying hard to get m first lay in the best part of a year, with the goal being to get laid once this damn year! I mean, that one girl from last time, when you went to her friends place of whatever…she was completely DTF. You totally could have banged her, 100%, her friends if I remember right even left you two alone TO bang lol. That was all on you on bailing. We’d chat a little in our lunch breaks, but then some very handsome Spanish guy started working there! He didn’t even talk to her or… Read more »
@ Cheupez “I am afraid if I stop it will affect my wife’s desire negatively” There’s more than one way to skin that cat. As Sentient says, stay in your frame, first. When clubbing, you are in your frame, she responded appropriately. Heightened dread. When not clubbing are you domesticated, in her frame, cede you in any way, supplicate? I’m assuming your a charismatic guy while clubbing. That’s attractive clubbing, everywhere, she and all women sense this strength. If you’re consistently in your frame, the wife will pursue you, feel that you have options beyond her. On a personal note:… Read more »
@Cheupez Yep, what Sentient and EhIntellect said. Keep in mind that you still need dread, preselection, DHVs, some unpredictability and mystery. Mystery Method in a big nightclub called life. Guys like Rollo or Sentient have it embedded in their lifestyles: they have their passions, they lead others, they interact with HBs who react well to them, they travel/disappear and have men-only or alone time away from wife/family, they live in their frames. Cutting down on clubbing shouldn’t matter as long as you don’t totally replace it with some betaizing activities. Unfortunately, many men I interact with want to stop to… Read more »
CSP
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Well, I learned a thing or two today. Mature white pines blown down in a 60 mph windstorm this past week are pretty sappy. Between chainsawing a 60 foot length of one, I took breaks at my farm cabin reading Krauser’s book a bit. It has something about AA, something that I never even came close to having in real life. And I know why. I never had any semblance of lack of self acceptance or self esteem ever (as a by-product of circumstance and competence). (Not bragging, just explaining my former harshness in comments to SafePlaypen.) This Krauser book… Read more »
Ego forces you to create delusional reality in which you are high value, so as to assuage feelings of low self-worth. That is the root motivation of women with Borderline Personality Disorder as can be observed by how they act. How the fuck women can take that and make a Machiavellian hell for men by their actions originating in faking high value, despite low self esteem (if men let them) and men can take that and make a hell for themselves by their actions is buried in the Awareness of Red Pill Reality. Low Self Esteem, whether recognized or buried… Read more »
“Do you keep your female orbiters around or flirt with other women in front of your wife?” This is big. She’ll shit test your flirtations, to validate your alphaness. It’s an opportunity to drive her sexual desire to stratosphere levels. FR: at the busy pub with wife and young couple friends, who are half our age. Was fun. Dude heavy, few women and only 2-3 were tolerably attractive I’m leaning on crowded bar, a pre-wall decent looking lady walks up, stares at me. She wants to approach the bar next to me to order her drink. I’m staring back, waiting… Read more »
Excellent demonstration of frame (it’s a clip of a comic, all comics seem to me to be masters of frame, but I thought this was a really good example of holding frame and of a person drawing everyone else into their reality):
CSP
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Thanks for the feedback on my latest FR (Hank, Calum and IRL in particular). I always enjoy reading the feedback. @Calum, In hindsight, it kind of makes sense with the girl who I had previously madeout with. I was wondering what i’d done ‘wrong’, but looking back, as you say, I think it was already written that I wouldn’t pull her due to what had happened before. Her ASD was likely very high at tat point I certainly don’t think that girls 2 and 3 were attracted enough to bang me, but I appreciate your optimism! @IRL – It sounds… Read more »
@pitbikemike “I’m not even sure a cool little DHV story would have helped, but certainly worth experimenting with. I guess some girls are just not gonna be interested no matter what you do/say!! That’s certainly what it felt like with her. Although I bet TylerRSD would at least have managed to somehow make her crack up soon after teh open. Not really sure how he always manages to do that” Hey man watch this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UCisrvgjlU&feature=youtu.be This is the frame you want to be coming from in an interaction. And if they do end up telling you to fuck off,… Read more »
@jj, wouldn’t opening other people near her in order to get pre-selection only work if THEY like you?! I mean, couldn’t it backfire if them girls see everyone rejecting you? cheers
@pitbikemike – just a quick one as I need to go, but no, not really. Like sure if EVERY single girl or group you talk to throws a drink in your face and slaps you that could be a problem. But really it’s more the sense of being a sociable outgoing guy who people (preferably other girls) respond well to that you’re trying to cultivate. And they are watching YOU and how you present in those conversations (or at least aware at some level – nobody is actually paying any attention in the sense of staring and laughing at you).… Read more »
@pitbikemike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Ko6Xfa84w The original chick made a quick judgement based on her history with guys that look like you and determined you’re not worth her time (has absolutely nothing to do with you. it is what it is). but then if she sees people gushing over you like they are for this fake celebrity (preselection/social proof), she will reevaluate her initial impression she had for you and thus flip her attraction switch. (“girls ping off their environment for how to feel”) Obviously everyone rejecting you is gonna backfire, in that case just head to another bar. No big deal. Nobody… Read more »
@pitbikemike
Here’s the link for what Culum’s talking about:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/a-test-of-your-game-judging-your-responses-to-no-girl/
just hit Ctrl+f “YaReally” for his commentary
I’ve mentioned it on my blog…if you want to sexualize and avoid nuclear rejections, just sexualize using double entendres and non-verbal, discreet messages like casually looking at a girls legs…the classy way that sexualization was done back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Thanks guys. I guess it will have to be clubbin till I die. I cant imagine anything else that gives me as much psyche as it does. Working out comes close though, but not enough.
“How the fuck women can take that and make a Machiavellian hell for men by their actions originating in faking high value, despite low self esteem ” Your comment reminds me the Practical Female Pyschology LSE/HD section. Essentially the LSE/HD woman is a potential lover, not boyfriend material as she has been abused in previous relationships. She may not seem the victim but will shit test, essentially faking high value, desiring low-level Alpha qualities. Strong sexual drive plus emotional labilty makes for cyclically abusive LTR’s. She is dangerously hypergamous,..well, more than your average woman, that is. IMO inexorable female solipsism… Read more »
“I guess it will have to be clubbin till I die.” Could be a lot worse. Congrats! I’ll throw this out there… Reviving my Alpha required me to subdue or quash my worst Beta qualities first. I’d had to stop smiling, being cheerful, thinking I was a clever conversationalist, driving home immediately post-work. Oh, the desire to help around the house had to go. The consummate entertainer disappeared. Minimized eye contact. That was a rocky period. She furiously demanded I stay in her frame, while purporting to be the consummate wife. I continued on, upped the Alpha qualities I let… Read more »
@theasdgamer I will acknowledge (if not accept) your comments about pussy shit. It’s all just screen names to me (and for instance, yours could be anti-slut defense or autistic spectrum disorder, I have no idea). The guy (safespaceplaypen) is obviously overwhelmed with PUA material already and, while all the advice around here in general (or otherwise it gets called out) is great, it is also obvious it’s not connecting with him. So perhaps a Hank Holiday type (who does not seem to ID as a PUA) or other tyro screen names I don’t recall are much more identifiable. It’s possible… Read more »
“I like the quality of the work, to the house it goes. It fits and looks good. It’s classic Beta provisioning. I subtly feel the dynamic change that evening, The private conversation starting vague, turns chick-emotional, I clam up, avoid eyes, and after 10″ stand up and tell her good night. I can tell she’s anxious. 5 minutes later I’m in bed and she jumps in, hot sex…again in the morning.” If an alpha wants to make a piece of furniture, he just fucking makes a good piece of furniture. That’s not inherently beta. This is like a jock obsessing… Read more »
Just sayin’
And btw, making a piece of furniture is a seriously MANLY and awesome thing to do.
“If an alpha wants to make a piece of furniture, he just fucking makes a good piece of furniture. That’s not inherently beta.”
That reminds me. Homemade soap I made out of hempseed oil, olive, palm and coconut oil mixed with lye and scented with Hermes Eau de Merveilles fragrance four weeks ago is done curing and ready to use. And I don’t feel the slightest bit beta provisioner.
“And btw, making a piece of furniture is a seriously MANLY and awesome thing to do.”
Don’t you beta bait me, tricking woman!
😀
LOL Eh!
Once upon a time the second greatest insult a man could direct at a man was:
“He buys his things.”
Man is the tool maker.
“And I don’t feel the slightest bit beta provisioner.”
Some of our funniest laughs come from me buying a trifling, you know, a coffee, groceries, etc. She’ll then intimate I’m killing her libido. Heh.
@ Ajax. Thanks for the words. I appreciate the different skillsets here and everyone’s objective can be addressed.
@Ajax a very different confidence or self-esteem headspace compared with a tortured incel I was never there…never had low confidence…but I was mixing it up from 14 yo on. I can’t have empathy with tortured incels. Sympathy, maybe. It’s possible that guys going out to bars and clubs running game with built-in buffers (wives, GFs at home) as sexual safety nets Sure, many of us have LTRs at home. Most guys giving advice are never going to be tortured incels. Hence, tortured incels won’t get much empathy. Sympathy, surely. Back when I wasn’t getting laid I knew why–my rules-following, cockblocking… Read more »
@anon
he might be a nerd because he likes to play chess.
I like to play chest, too.
@Intellect
while feeding off the frission
Fuck you very much for making me look up this urban word. heh
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frission
Or did you mean “frisson”?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisson
@Ajax, @Safe
Maybe try out putting aside all the PUA info for a little bit and just get comfortable talking to strangers (through repetition) and work on connecting with them (including girls) as simple, first-level friends.
Yep, don’t try to eat that elephant all at once…just a bite at a time.
@Ajax safespace Maybe try out putting aside all the PUA info for a little bit and just get comfortable talking to strangers (through repetition) and work on connecting with them (including girls) as simple, first-level friends. It may not get you laid this week but the accrual effect will definitely get you laid sooner rather than later. that’s great advice no matter who it comes from…lol… or maybe not even going all the way to ‘first-level friends’ (bc even THAT might be too big of a chunk of social interaction for a hardcase newbie to chew on…)… maybe just saying… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrhSLf0I-HM
Good stuff HABD… at the end of the day nothing is going to replace getting out there and doing The Hard Work… Putting the coffee down in the meantime…
“They are sitting out there waiting to give you their [pussy]. Are you gonna take it? Are you man enough to take it?”
ABC…
Dang ASDgamer, you’re making me sympathetic to SafeSpace’s plight. Here’s some what to do about AA, abstractly from Krauser’s Daygame Mastery.The following ins a heuristic aid to dealing with Approach Anxiety. (The first 75 pages of this book is a fantastic read so far.) (Of course his British uses s’s instead of z’s : To make progress in daygame you must engage directly with reality. You must look it dead-on in the eye and welcome raw unfiltered feedback. The best way to do that is to approach 100 girls with direct sexual intent. They’ll give you all the answers you… Read more »
“Back when I wasn’t getting laid I knew why–my rules-following, cockblocking SuperEgo–it had nothing to do with lacking confidence. Back before I knew that I was autistic. That SuperEgo is still a massive emotional obstacle to me. I can have empathy with other autistic men who have to deal with a SuperEgo. And who have no idea about leadership and lack social skills and have trouble calibrating women’s emotions.” Precision engineering Krauser Tip: Player Traps – Delusional Confidence One source of frustration for aspiring players is the inevitable realization that the men who get laid most are usually dickheads. Women… Read more »
@SJF
What does Krauser’s stuff have to do with the Superego?
the super-ego plays the critical and moralizing role
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego
@Sentient Good stuff HABD… at the end of the day nothing is going to replace getting out there and doing The Hard Work… Putting the coffee down in the meantime… yup… but it f*king sucks too…lol… at least until you have some success… and can get out of/stay out of your own way… (‘cough’… Culum…’cough’…lol ) like that little old lady actually told me where the pet store was…lol… so that was a ‘win’…AND i did NOT go to jail OR get beat up by the poh-leese…lol… and it just snowballed up from there… but i was socially retarded enough… Read more »
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@ASD
I suppose that last bit about delusional confidence has to do with all those RSD videos of Tyler and Julien with all their authentic and congruent confidence ( backed up with competence.
If the super ego is ignored or overridden by delusional confidence, then Krauser is cautioning against this as it is then going to be inauthentic and incongruent. I.e. if one were just going to ape Tyler and Julien instead of having developed good competent game.
Posture matters. Proper posture can help dial back or even defeat depression. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/01/31/standing-straight-could-help-symptoms-depression-study/ Probably this is partly due to the direct neural connection between the core and the amygdala. Body core status tied directly to the fight-freeze-flight component of the brain? Hunched over signals brain “fear” just as “fear” urges the change in body position. The wordy, English major version from the Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/08/cortical-adrenal-orchestra/496679/ Abstract of the actual research. http://www.pnas.org/content/113/35/9922.abstract So to sum up: the PE teacher in high school, your father or uncle, your martial arts instructor, maybe even your yoga teacher were all correct. Posture matters, it directly… Read more »
@theassdgamer wrote “I was never there…never had low confidence…but I was mixing it up from 14 yo on. I can’t have empathy with tortured incels. Sympathy, maybe.” Yes, your 30+? Years of stable masculine confidence, perhaps built up due to the typical autist’s lack of perceiving negative feedback from others-perhaps not, may place you in a different realm of approach anxiety than @safespaceplaypen finds himself in currently. Doesn’t mean it’s not valuable, but my impression of safespaceplaypen is that his confidence is severely flagging. As a side note: I have a number of male autistic friends and the common denominator… Read more »
@Ajax As a side note: I have a number of male autistic friends and the common denominator seems to be that they are often extremely confident, dynamic (jokers of the party) and have scores of (I would label superficial) friends within their circle but very few, if any, have truly close friends who hang with them through the long haul. Yep. Very common. For years I had three close friends I could discuss politics and religion with but very few if any superficial acquaintances. One of those close friends moved away, another didn’t like my RP ideas and we are… Read more »
Years of stable masculine confidence, perhaps built up due to the typical autist’s lack of perceiving negative feedback from others I don’t have a problem perceiving negative feedback from others, but it’s common for autists. We are on a spectrum and some have more problem perceiving negative feedback than others do. My biggest problem is anticipating that something that I am planning to say or do will generate negative feedback, especially when I get a lot of sensory input (e.g., loud music, lots of people around me, dynamic lighting…clubs, lol). That little warning light just gets swallowed up in all… Read more »
Ajax: “Put all your energy into building your social circles.” ASD: “Yep. Very common. For years I had three close friends I could discuss politics and religion with but very few if any superficial acquaintances. One of those close friends moved away, another didn’t like my RP ideas and we are no longer friends” The one missing thing that is rarely mentioned, but is in full force by men good at PUA is the core group of good guy friends. That was the sine qua non of Mystery’s ‘leader of men’. YaReally really had that going on. In a blue… Read more »
SJF – “YaReally really had that going on.”
I see little evidence of this. He wrote of various wings primarily, and of avoiding non PUA activity with IRL men.
Time for another dynamic, passionate and authentic guy example – young fella edition. Came across this cat via a young models inst page:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRUSo7UBZ4C
year or so out of college… ^^^ she has 6k followers, been in a few movies, signed to Wilhelmina Miami. Now who is this prime hotty dating?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMAVJsSAG1q
Spot the Alpha…
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPG2rw2Bg4H
Nice little neg… beta in an Alpha wrapper…
An outdoorsman, Redneck, BJJ aficionado, day job Mariner, healthy, masculine good looking cat. Seems like he puts a lot of his time into his MPoO…
Take note gents, particularly young gents.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKolXM0BDeo
The right attitude… [can be modeled].
DPA on display…
https://www.instagram.com/p/BI5qIrMh4d8
Wise words…
“Over the years I have grown a passion for XXXX, it is something un-explainable by mere words. It is a feeling of oneness with everything around you. Knowing an area so well, you step around rocks without seeing the bottom. It didn’t start out that way. It took years to learn what I know now, and i will continue learning with every cast pursuit. Fishing Purpose and mission in things outside your job/profession and outside your relationships mirror life and it’s so called obstacles. The attitude you apply to an obstacle/situation makes it good or bad. Challenge yourself to Learn… Read more »
@AR thanks for posting those links… that’s an interesting study… but makes complete sense… Hunched over signals brain “fear” just as “fear” urges the change in body position. ya, it’s all synergistic… which is why ‘fake it til you make it’ actually works… i think the basic idea behind this stuff is that your hindbrain is constantly looking at you like it’s a third-person observer… that’s why taking action is necessary to change/solidify your mindset… bc your hindbrain looks at the actions you take/don’t take and says ‘this guy usually does [x]…so he must be [y]…’ whether that’s hunched over… Read more »
@SJF
My social circle has almost always all had their shit together. I don’t usually have a circle of close friends because of autism. Tactical social disadvantages in groups. Instead, I have several close friends who don’t know each other.
I got into the inner circle in one group, tho.
One size doesn’t fit all.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDtWp5Yul1z
https://www.instagram.com/p/w2TjTOOlzL
IRL activities and masculine friends…
” spin up ‘knowing’ about pua as a way to avoid actually taking action…”
God I hate this kind of KJ’ing… The Expert Virgins…
@ SJF My circles have broadened, changed. Young single guys, burned divorced older guys are more RP-tolerant. We met a young 20 something couple weeks back; they liked Mrs. Eh and my groove and partied with us recently. Different dynamic. Interesting since the established macho family men tend to reject RP, heavily WK, avoid unfamiliar circles. Yeesh, I was that guy. Former friends have noticed a change and we’re now mutually not interested, keep it shallow. I’m bias selected. My workplace, churchy circles command FI obedience and the standards are set by least tolerant. Guys here quietly accept or grouse… Read more »
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEKExm-x2DV
The Female: you’re really cute and it’s ruining my life because i think about kissing you all the time
The Male; Post-San Luis, pre-Galvez. Thanks for crashing my weekend, you’re always welcome
dwell upon this…
@Ajax
One of my close friends has been friends for five decades (he likes games)…one of my ex-friends for four (I shot skeet with him). Another ex for one decade. Latest ex for over a year. (He lives from one crisis to another…a rotten childhood…pathetic…I was trying to rehab him…I finally realized that he wouldn’t take life coaching from me, so I bugged out)
Are you sure that you really know about your autistic friends’ lives?
@intellect
My circles have broadened, changed. Young single guys, burned divorced older guys are more RP-tolerant.
Yeah, one of my ex-friends was married and RP was the reason for the breakup. YSGs are tolerant in one way–about the nature of women–but not about how broken they are because they didn’t have the influence of authentic men when they grew up; YSGs tend to have a lot of insecure, feminine traits.
“but not about how broken they are because they didn’t have the influence of authentic men when they grew up”
Cosign that. A young family friend, ZFG ladies man, bouncer, restaurant cook, employed but drifting. Lives on college campus, many plates. His parent’s divorce still stings, angry daddy issues, he remains in his Mom’s, sister’s frame, looking for acceptance. One breath he’s berating his sister, and in the next he’s WKing her, the emotional dumpster.
Tough love helps at times (Get out of this town, brother! It’s suffocating your potential), other times he overcompensates.
HABD ya, it’s all synergistic… which is why ‘fake it til you make it’ actually works… The mind/body connection is way more complicated than doctors, or naturals, believe. So we get doctors, naturals, incels scoffing at “fake it till you make it”, when that is one way humans learn and change and grow. Cripes, look at a toddler – faking the act of walking until they get the neural pathways wired and congruent with muscles, then they got it made and right out the door into the street. i think the basic idea behind this stuff is that your hindbrain… Read more »
CSP
http://wp.me/p4tvpM-1OhO
http://wp.me/p4tvpM-1Oi9
http://wp.me/p4tvpM-1Oib
that guy looks like a model himself. They’ll have good looking kids!
22YO, 5’11”, SI Swimsuit Edition (x2) and 400k+ Insta followers – professional model since she was 14…
How anxious should one be around her?