For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
Blaximus
CFGauss. The maths. Soooo much maths.
You say that like it’s a bad thing…
“The buffering that accompanies this emotional hurl almost always boils down to “looks” or “money”, or both. When a red=pill man finds himself talking like a Game denier, he should reconsider what he’s going on about.” Acknowledging that the looks threshold for alpha fucks sex has gone up does not make one blue pill or a game denier. It’s accepting and adapting to the current environment. “In the Anglosphere, young women earn more than men and have a social safety net. Consequently, women are increasingly selecting men less on their resource provisioning abilities and more on the basis of their… Read more »
Ligget se Blax
“I think there may be more regular commenters here who instantly recognized the name CFGauss” I used wikipedia. I had no clue who the fucker was. Nor that kfg had quoted him a couple weeks ago. I like to connect abstract ideas. “Going into a venue with a stopwatch in hand makes some strange things happen.” Hey mister, that’s a weird lookin’ phone ya got there. Those security guards tried to tell me cell phones are not allowed into the county clerk/courthouse when I went to renew my concealed pistol license. That may be true, but this thing I’m placing… Read more »
lol. For once it wasn’t spellcheck. I fucked it up without technological assistance.
“As a result of this evolution, the minimum looks threshold required for men to “game” women has gone way up in the last 5 years. If you don’t make the cut in terms of looks, you’re not getting it in. And the looks bar has been raised higher than ever.”
Ouch!
I pulled a muscle shaking my head.
Are these guys high? Wtf?
“As a result of this evolution, the minimum looks threshold required for men to “game” women has gone way up in the last 5 years. If you don’t make the cut in terms of looks, you’re not getting it in. And the looks bar has been raised higher than ever.”
Just remember. We all know what is going on here…..
That’s why someone invented the manosphere and why Rollo does what he does.
The persistent question: What are you going to do about that?
The answer is: choose among the possibilities that present to you.
Sorry. Matches my experience. Don’t want to mislead the lurkers reading along that only mindset/game matters. And that’s mainly who I share links for (since I’m not gonna change anybody’s mind here lol). I was once a lurker reading YaReally battle the OMGs here. I never commented/thanked him, but I’m glad he kept posting good shit.
“I used wikipedia. I had no clue who the fucker was. Nor that kfg had quoted him a couple weeks ago. I like to connect abstract ideas.”
That is pretty interesting that you guys selected the same quote… though maybe the fact that it is in his wikipedia page makes it a little less so.
When I first saw your quote (not knowing it was in his wikipedia) I was like “Jesus… are he and KFG the same person”?
Some Redditor “In the Anglosphere, young women earn more than men and have a social safety net. Consequently, women are increasingly selecting men less on their resource provisioning abilities and more on the basis of their looksgame. And technology has compounded this trend.” Fixed that by typing with both hands while shaking my head at the same time. “As a result of this evolution, the minimum looks threshold required for men to “game” women has gone way up in the last 5 years. If you don’t make the cut in terms of looks, you’re not getting it in. And the… Read more »
@AR
Where’s the Lay Report with that 21 year old HB10 you took home from the club last night?
Binary thinking is not a good habit. It is foolish.
…though maybe the fact that it is in his wikipedia page makes it a little less so. When I first saw your quote (not knowing it was in his wikipedia) I was like “Jesus… are he and KFG the same person”? Kfg is way more natural and efficient than I am. I had to struggle to even get a clue. Funny how that is. I’m not ashamed to say I’m good at learning, not being a natural, having to learn. If you look back at my comments three years ago, you would call me purple pill and all balled up.… Read more »
I’ll always love me some yareally, but he often ” went into battle ” with nerf firepower and rubberbands. Younger guys liked him a lot because he babystepped and coddled the shit out of them, cosigning practically every buffering complaint they’d raise. Game is life. PUA is not. That’s why there so much confusion and wringing of hands in the pua world. Game is NEVER confused. Game doesn’t talk about she surgery to catch chicks. Game doesn’t make.bullshit excuses like ” teh threshold is higher “. A.Reddit filled with gameless dickheads trying to make women the end all, be all… Read more »
Lol also at the constant ” club ” references. That too is some shit that never ends, and hampers rising n-counts quite effectively. You bang ’em where ya find ’em.th a
If you have game, ya already know. If nit, get instructions on how to take a bath and head to a designation and run your routines.
But watch that clock!!!!!!
“Younger guys liked him a lot because he babystepped and coddled the shit out of them, cosigning practically every buffering complaint they’d raise” It wasnt just younger guys. Ya helped guys of all ages/skill level. Dude was incredible at explaining and breaking down concepts. What I didn’t like about him was his poor and unhealthy lifestyle. And the fact that he dismissed NLP as “weird”oh well “Game doesn’t make.bullshit excuses like ” teh threshold is higher “ Not an excuse…you (not you @blax) don’t want to looksmax (diet, gym, skin, hair, fashion) to complement Game..hey be my guest lol. But… Read more »
“Lol also at the constant ” club ” references. That too is some shit that never ends, and hampers rising n-counts quite effectively. You bang ’em where ya find ’em.th a”
….where are you going to consistently find the most at..
I swear you fuckers are so stupid……..and missed the point of everything ….but its cool your lifes over and you can tell everyone to be like you so you feel better lol….
They should make MaxRSD wear a super realistic ugly latex mask for his next 50 infields. Will settle the ‘debate’ once and for all lol. Not that there really needs to be any debate about this. Anyone actually going out hitting on hot young girls in their prime and actually trying to bang them knows that looks effect peoples results MASSIVELY! But nearly all modern PUA material seems to acknowledge this, so I don’t think it even really needs to be discussed. Expect lots of ‘no girls’ (who can’t be gamed) if you aren’t good looking.
Expect lots of ‘no girls’ (who can’t be gamed) if you aren’t good looking.
If you want to be good looking…
stand tall and don’t slouch to show core strength
walk briskly to show energy
don’t be afraid to touch people-put your hand on shoulders as you pass and greet them
act like you own the place
laugh at any shit people throw your way
laugh at any shit girls throw your way and make fun of them
make other people laugh
make girls giggle
Men’s looks are based on their behavior.
Whodem They should make MaxRSD wear a super realistic ugly latex mask for his next 50 infields. Yeah. Like a Tyler mask… Palma I can’t just sit here and let you tell all the 5’1” bald lurkers they may as well give it up because the tall young guys got all the poon. It’s not true, Style – aka Neil Strauss – author of “The Game” agrees… http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/2357481668_529619a8a9.jpg Funny he wasn’t famous or rich at all when he did all that… J Is that your advice for 5’1 aspiring cads? Just get rich and famous? lol ok Fame and wealth… Read more »
”Yeah. Like a Tyler mask…” lol, I knew that was coming 🙂 Tyler wasn’t that ugly back when he was pimping hard tbh. Slim, blue eyes, decent face shape. lots of people are ugly with massive noses, huge sticking out ears, really long (or short ) faces etc etc. Not unusual that some girls would think he’s OK looking. It’s about numbers game. Some girls have unusual taste and might consider a guy who most girls would think is a ‘6’ to be a ‘9’ or whatever. Through sheer numbers game, PUA’s are able to easier find such girls. If… Read more »
whodem
It’s about numbers game.
No. It’s a skill game. All the numbers in the world will not replace skill. If you lack skill you talk numbers.
The rest… just austistic blather and conjecture.
Post your FR’s…
You don’t need to be super handsome, but if you approach a girl in a bar and she thinks you’re ugly
…then you might need to throw a humorous neg her way and get her engaged…
Fuck, these young PUAs here have shit game. Go read Heartiste on game–his advice is golden.
The doctor I wrote about previously with whom the future Mrs. Gamer was so taken was short and plain–but he was always well-kempt and smelled nice and was “very charming.”
you’ll hear this time and time again. ”I ran my opener, tried to go into my DHV story/whatever, and she just walked away” lol.
You have to get a hook (cold read with convo) before you try to tell a story…stories don’t work after 10 pm anyway…girls are too intoxicated.
I just ask girls to dance and I get better than 50% success. Lots of times the ugly girls won’t dance with me–only the pretty ones. Especially after midnight when they need Mr. Right Now.
(Yeah, J, I’m sure that I’m no sexual threat in the girls’ eyes…
lol)
Palma Great story ( stories matter lol ). You are correct about ” short ” guys usually being more dangerous. I always attributed this to people always giving them shit about height. They’ll either shrink and wither ( and head to Reddit to bitch and moan ), or they step up and kill it. The hardest punch I’d ever taken outside of a boxing ring was delivered with destructive precision by a 5’2″ Latino dude in a subway car. It must’ve been some kind of gang thing, but about 5 of these miniature guys went from subway car to subway… Read more »
” . . . there’s a curious development where young guys gather together to reject wisdom . . .”
That is the primary course taught in primary schools these days. I wish I were making that up for sarcasm’s sake.
You are correct about ” short ” guys usually being more dangerous. I always attributed this to people always giving them shit about height.
I was a short guy until I was 23 y.o. Lots of people tried to pick on me and I got good at fighting, even though I never liked to fight. Probably the same with other short guys. Some short fuckers are trying to prove something, so they start fights.
Mersonia Lol. Yeah, my life is over and has been forever.😁 It’s boring not being confused or making females the focal point of my existence. Who.cares that I’ve banged astronomical numbers of women without resorting to relying on clubs?😁 don’t listen to me because I’ve never attended a hotseat when the entirety of womanhood is completely changed 100%. It’s so hard now. …. Online. I only ever hear all of this shit online. The complaining.The talk of ” thousands of men report the same things “. Hint: look up America population/world population. ” thousands n” of men are only representative… Read more »
@j
‘attraction =/ P in V…don’t know how many times we gotta tell you this old man…’
lol,
”…then you might need to throw a humorous neg her way and get her engaged…”
lol
A looks debate! I thought I was on the RSD forum for a second! 🙂 My wing is handsome as hell so I have my own opinion on all of this stuff but I try to not write it down anymore in case it reinforces ‘limiting beliefs’! 🙂 On the bright side, he got me laid a fair bit when I was young. He’d pull 2 or 3 girls with his smile (they’d usually open and escalate on him without him saying anything), invite them back to my parents house (who had a swimming pool) and then he’d basically throw… Read more »
@Blax
lol you know im messing with you…. I just posted that because I know you’d respond………….
don’t care about this site anymore cept the op’s since im almost 25
WordPress seems to eat some of my comments.
Maybe they are trying to tell me something.😁
“Very few men (in normal circulation) are as dangerous as the three I outlined above all of whom would fuck you up in their own way if you messed with them. The oldest one is the most dangerous of all of them by the way.
This isn’t lost on women.”
This is an interesting comment. I think women do have a radar for selecting men who look like they could manage a violent situation. I have often wondered if height is a sometimes a proxy for strength… sort of a strength preference masquerading as a height preference.
I think women do have a radar for selecting men who look like they could manage a violent situation.
If only there was a web site where such things as evolutionary psychology, the Dark Triad, etc. were discussed…
Lookism.
@All, I’ve read The Juggler Method a few times in the past, but just like with a lot of game material dudes read, sometimes the nuances slip through the cracks until another read. I reread the Juggler Method again after about a year later than the last time, and things clicked better for me. Even still, I think some of the game dudes don’t structure their info well. So I created a summary page of it if you want to check it out. I’ll update it with book’s examples of specific game convos in bookstores, bars, coffee shope, etc later… Read more »
alright sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business. “I can’t just sit here and let you tell all the 5’1” bald lurkers they may as well give it up because the tall young guys got all the poon.” not what I said….me quoting myself from the previous page, again: “If your an incel/semi incel and not at least a 6 in looks, I do not recommend PUA.” your Italian waiter: A fat, old, bald, 5’1….I’d classify a person of those attributes as below a 6. visual: …I wouldn’t advice that guy to learn pickup. Cause he’s not gonna be slaying… Read more »
@J
If you had one paragraph to describe what you are advocating for on a red pill blog.
What would that be?
Where do you want to go?
Where do you think 25 years old males should do?
Where do you think they should be at 29, 25, 50?
What about life outside of pussy? Is that a thing?
“stories don’t work after 10 pm anyway…girls are too intoxicated.”
wrong.
NotReally. Exact same girl will be rapt for one of my stories 8-9 pm and too drunk to pay attention after 10 pm. YaReally basically said the same thing. In a quiet bar/club, you can tell stories, but girls like noisy bars after 10 pm. Noisy bars sell more booze. My fav. bar ups the decibels around 10 pm. Pretty common, I think.
@SJF
I’ll have to think about it. In the middle of cooking right now.
@theasdgamer
I don’t go to bars until 11/midnight And when I arrive, the majority of the girls there are not intoxicated. Drunk chicks are cool to dance with and get a makeout of they cute enough…but that’s about it). I prefer to game tipsy/sober girls. Verbal game is more effective on them.
And umm…bars have this thing called smoking section/patio/sofas lol…maybe you heard of them?
So much to unpack….. That I won’t bother. I can’t explain again that complaining about girls and orbiters and attention by mentally becoming a pedestalizer is only fuel to the fire. Girls are ” X “, but the 9’s are teh bestest in the whole wide world and everybody wants them because hot/beautiful….. Yeah. Times have changed because in my day guys would get slapped in the mouth so that they’d get their minds right. Not enough mouth slapping going on. Guys act and think just like chicks. And there’s an industry that helps to drive the madness. Maybe we… Read more »
Every other comment I post vanishes into thin air.
Wtf wordpress???
@ Sentient
Is this shit aspergers or a severe form of autism?
Serious question.
“Asperger syndrome is a condition on the autism spectrum, with generally higher functioning.
People with this condition may be socially awkward and have an all-absorbing interest in specific topics.
Communication training and behavioral therapy can help people with the syndrome learn to socialize more successfully.”
There’s a diag and name for every-fucking-thing, lol.
Careful with trying to Dx over the internet. Probably anyone who spends a significant amount of time on this website on a daily basis could be said to have “an all-absorbing interest in specific topics”.
Not really.
Lots of diverse topics broached here often. It’s the circular shit that stands alone/out.
I have an all-absorbing interest in a good night’s sleep.
So, G’Night.
Blax, aspergers is no longer a diagnosis. Autism is now considered a spectrum thing.
@SJF I don’t think this is what you had in mind (and probably has nothing to do with red pill lol)…but this is what I’d tell guys my age and younger: – Listen to music you can’t help, but enjoy listening to. – Watch lots and lots of movies. From all genres. And make a list of which ones made an emotional impact on you (some will surprise you). Then, in a conversation with a girl you’re interested in, Show her the list. If she shows enthusiasm for any of the films, she’s a keeper. – Try (and read) lots… Read more »
And umm…bars have this thing called smoking section/patio/sofas lol…maybe you heard of them? Once you get buy in, maybe a story will get some interest. But you won’t get that off of a boring opener without significant nonverbal signals, The example that was referenced was telling a story right after the opener which generated zero interest. Getting a girl to dance with you is a compliance test and the dance floor is a liminal space and you can tell stories as you dance…sometimes I tell stories and sometimes jokes and sometimes just chat. But you have to know how to… Read more »
Don’t blurt out everything. Just hint at things. then say something that might suggest the opposite. Wait till they ask you to share. Then share only a little…Irresistible formula.
Build drama and create a fantasy. Practice.
J, I’ve chatted with girls in an embrace, mouth to ear, when the decibels were high. If a girl enjoys that for several minutes, she’s sexually interested. I’ve chatted in a girl’s grill for a few minutes. Her face was lit up and her RAS was on me. An excited non-fake greeting and a prolonged, warm hug preceded that. Maybe a five seconds long hug. I give that girl social proof by greeting and dancing with her. We also have exchanged swats. It’s all in fun on my side–I’m sure she likes me. If I invited her to my truck,… Read more »
@theasdgamer
“The example that was referenced was telling a story right after the opener which generated zero interest.”
ya, you can blame Autistic Sentient’s dumbass “hey so check this out” advice to newbies for that lol. I reserve my sex/adventure stories for when I have girls isolated away from her friends (she’d already be attracted to me at this point, from my body language, sense of humor, cold-reading, intriguing observations about life/women/traveling) and in a quiet/semi-quiet space.
Blax
Is this shit aspergers or a severe form of autism?
Serious question.
It’s worse. It appears to be learned behavior…
The question is why? Oh wait I know the answer!
Ego investment and lack of male friends IRL…
J
ya, you can blame Autistic Sentient’s dumbass “hey so check this out” advice to newbies for that lol. I reserve my sex/adventure stories for when I have girls isolated away from her friends (she’d already be attracted to me at this point, from my body language, sense of humor, cold-reading, intriguing observations about life/women/traveling) and in a quiet/semi-quiet space.
Deningrates DHV story, then goes into DHV story… lol
Blax
If you’re an UglyCel (sub 6) or a ManletCel (sub 5′ 4) or both (brutal),
Here is evidence of “learning”… BrutalCel???
Story – An account of past events in someone’s life or in the development of something Example of Observations about younger/older girls: “let me guess your older than 23?. ..yeah i could tell because younger girls have this face…where every thing is new to them. Like this feeling of awe. But your face (squint while smiling) tells me you’ve seen it all before. Been there done that. Your tired of the fake bullshit. You want something…different from the ordinary.” Example of story: ok but are you sure you want to hear it? Cause it’s a bit sexual. Ok, so this… Read more »
Below average looking, under 5’4 and incel
There’s that wooshing again…
j September 26, 2018 at 6:59 pm That’s all cool. Real cool. And good mindset and thinking on your part. You are successful in your strivings because of those givings. But it’s not sufficient for the long term. It is not sustaining in an Anna Karenina Principled life. Where have we heard this before? There’s more to masculine life than just pussy. But have your pussy and eat/fuck it too. That’s not criticism. Every unhappy man becomes unhappy in his own way. Every happy masculine male is all the same. He has his parameters handled. Don’t let parameters that are… Read more »
“The example that was referenced was telling a story right after the opener which generated zero interest.” ya, you can blame Autistic Sentient’s dumbass “hey so check this out” advice to newbies for that lol. Maybe it was from a comment of yours upstream where you referenced a reddit that short ugly incels get zero interest from their stories. Maybe they need to get the chick to invest before they lay their valuable stories on the chicks. Stories are an opportunity to create drama, which is one of the emotional switches that need to be flipped with chicks. Seems I’ve… Read more »
@j you trollin’, bro?…lol been kinda busy, but sort of following along for the past couple OPs or so… followed those 2 links you put up about the hot girls a couple OPs ago… all i saw were a bunch of girls – some younger, some older – that were all tryin’ way tooo hard to get my attention…lol re that ‘hot girls aren’t attracted/aroused to/by men over 50’ shit… not true… buuut, that doesn’t matter to you right now bc you’re younger, so here’s what i saw… you’re just using that idea as an excuse to justify chasing da… Read more »
Yaaaaaassssssss!!!!!
@SJF,
“Don’t let parameters that are successful at 25 be the same ones at 35, 45 and 55.”
In the same vein, don’t expect parameters that are important at 25 to be important at 35, 45, 55. Your needs, wants, goals, passion WILL evolve… because they must.
I know that some people will always put it down to to a mistake in their ‘game’ if a girl ever rejects them on a cold approach, but I think that’s madness and will only lead to bad things. As if ‘game’ is some sort of jedi mind trick whereby you can bang any stunning teenager you want, even if you are 95 years old and homeless lol. If she rejects you, it’s because you didn’t run game properly!! 🙂 I think people like Mark Manson have it right. He’s not a game denier, but he’s also not deluded. I’m… Read more »
Basically just watch a mysterymethod infield to give you an idea of how I usually approach. I’ve also done lots of more ‘natural’ game (after finding RSD and reading Vin Dicarlo and Mark Manson) in the past as well as experimenting lots with direct game (which has actually possibly given me the most results although it obviously breaks lots of ‘rules’). However, i’m not really looking for advice to be honest. I’ve read all the material already. I have a pretty respectable lay count and I feel my game is good. I don’t believe that any tweaks in my game… Read more »
@having a bad day,
I have a YaReally summary page stickied to the top of my page.
Or get th awesome pdf compilation of his called The Book of YaReally
https://seduction4life.net/the-book-of-yareally-pdf-mobi-epub/
@J – Do you actually post on NextASF or just lurk? It’s a bit dead I notice. I’m also not that impressed by Bacchus after spending ages going through all of his LR’s. (although bearing in mind the current discussions going on here, I don’t think i’ll get into that!! haha)
“I just get frustrated on behalf of others when I read certain stuff. I think J’s closer to the truth and it sounds like he’s out there” Everyone who actually goes out today, will come to the same conclusions. The rest (HABD, Blax, Palma) are just spewing feel good bullshit…. I said if you’re an incel and not at least a 6, then don’t bother with the slayer route. “although i’d stay away from that lookism stuff”. Via lookism: “”looks don’t matter” is as ignorant and stupid as saying “ONLY looks matter and you don’t need game”” “Your social skills… Read more »
Why is it that pua guys keep.assuming that I don’t ” actually go out “? Shows that you talk what you don’t know at all. I.don’t” to out ( childish way to put it) ” as much as the average young guy trying desperately to get laid and garner approvals from girls, but I socialize regularly with all age groups, but usually with people/girls in the age group of folks like j. A lot. More than I should actually. That’s why I keep telling you guys that your situation doesn’t make you special. Shitty take ” game ” is what… Read more »
@j “I said if you’re an incel and not at least a 6, then don’t bother with the slayer route.” Incels can wait a bit and slay that over-used pussy after she has hit the wall and is looking for a beta cuck/provider. It’s no big deal to get those ONS that you seem to have made the number one priority of your life. The sex is usually sub par and lousy. Both parties are hesitant to go too intimate out of fear of STD’s. Condom sex feels like fucking a plastic bag…zero carnal enjoyment there! Sometimes you get a… Read more »
@blax blah blah blah. same old that’s not ‘real’ game lol @Orson “The sex is usually sub par and lousy. Both parties are hesitant to go too intimate out of fear of STD’s. Condom sex feels like fucking a plastic bag…zero carnal enjoyment there!” LMAO. That’s YOUR experience, broski. Not at all what it’s like for me and top players I’m acquaintances with. “you gamed her all night and now you are tired and drunk, or not in the mood for…!” lol once again. That’s YOUR experience. I never get drunk. Tipsy ya. Drunk no. “Like studying, career, building your… Read more »
#goals
https://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/man-who-slept-with-6000-dies-the-way-he-lived
Damn…………. I just said good job J for staying the route……..then I read this lollollolol
I knew something was wrong when everyones 5.6 was your 10 though. it all makes sense
His goal is to be a legend in his own mind.
… One day.
Smdh.
Lmao
J, you should listen sometimes. I.guarantee you’ll learn a few things. First, Game doesn’t sorry about eye tucks and height of looks. When you believe all of that shit it’s for two reasons – a) you.don’t understand what Game is ( yes, I keep.saying because I come from Game, and the guys that invented ” the real thing “, right down to the fucking term itself. B) you are lacking in most of the basics of Game. Pua ( is okay for what it is ) doesn’t teach it’s target audience Game – because most of them don’t have any… Read more »
@echo I know that some people will always put it down to to a mistake in their ‘game’ if a girl ever rejects them on a cold approach, but I think that’s madness and will only lead to bad things. such as?… thinking that the most important thing that counts in pua is your looks?…lol and that ‘rejection’ usually is a function of not seeing what is right in front of you…lol… in other words, yes, it’s a game failure…lol I’m out there 3 night per week hitting on 18-23 year old girls along with my friends, Props!!!… that shit… Read more »
Palma
Lol, we.see the same things because of time and experience. Young cats like j haven’t had the experience of watching men, women or anything over the course of 3 decades.
The number one excuse/buffer that young guys like j and his cohort have is that ” everything is harder/different now “. ” they ” are fine, it’s EVERYTHING else that’s off.
Anne they say that shit with a.straight face, and also each other in the back over incompetence and lack of foresight and vision and mission. Pussy ain’t a mission.
“I knew something was wrong when everyones 5.6 was your 10 though. it all makes sense”
This…
And I have a strong suspicion why…
J I’ll outline some thoughts on you in the next few days…
“gameless dudes fuck every single day” gameless dudes don’t pull new girls every weekend in less than 2 hours. This ain’t about getting laid. If it were, I’d pull that confident 5.5 @mers thinks I’m banging, that approached me or is just standing there, not even shit testing me… “because most of them don’t have any either.” 100% agree. “You have a mouth that talks it’s way into pussy”. That’s game. before that I’d never get laid, even as a tall latino dude. that’s why I say game+looks @HABD “do you and your friends ever deconstruct/troubleshoot what went wrong?… you… Read more »
“I’ll outline some thoughts on you in the next few days…”
haha look forward to it.
echo I think people like Mark Manson have it right. He’s not a game denier, but he’s also not deluded. Mark Manson. Hmm. Mark Manson makes money…how? Always keep people’s motives in mind when you consider their advice. I’m out there 3 night per week hitting on 18-23 year old girls along with my friends, and it’s very clear how it works. If you are not remotely ‘her type’ to look at, all the game in the world ain’t gonna do anything. What’s “her type” on Friday night vs. Monday afternoon vs. Thursday morning is the same, or different? Do… Read more »
J, you gotta get out more.
And.by ” out ” I’m not talking about a bar/club, or your area where you live. Spend a.week or two in major American cities first, then.visit the smaller ones. Get to know people in.both types of places.
Saying ” men ” can or can’t do.something based on what your wings do….well….that speaks for itself.
@anon – ”If fleezer was here he might tell you something like “Her type? If I want, I’m her type“. Same goes for her “league”
lol. Yeah. If her ‘type’ is handsome and over 6ft 2 and under 25, you might have some trouble convincing her if you are ugly af and 5ft dead and 48!! haha. This is funny, man! Reminds me of the flat-earthers!
@havingabadday – so pua/game DOES work!…lol… it’s it a skill or not?… What i’m saying is that it works WHEN (and only when) you meet a certain threshold of what Roosh calls ‘initial/pre minute attraction’. You need to look ‘acceptable’ to her, and some hot girls are very superficial and the barrier to entry can be high. In other words, I agree again with people like Mark Manson (and most modern PUA’s) in that, game is about amplifying existing attraction as opposed to creating it. ”you know that’s a shit test, right?” – rarely. And you can easily find out.… Read more »
You need to look ‘acceptable’ to her, and some hot girls are very superficial and the barrier to entry can be high. There’s a hot girl I know who won’t dance with me but gets lit up when I approach and likes to chat with me. She’s a “no/yes” girl, lol. The Queen of Fried Ice. Maybe afraid of social blowback from her friends if she dances with me. She says that she doesn’t have any problem with me. It could be that she only leads herself and can’t follow and that’s why she doesn’t want to dance with me.… Read more »
Lol. Game, real or pua appropriations, will not turn a ” hard no ” girl around. We went over this month’s ago. Game.doesn’t mean a man.can 100% bang every single woman he wants to bang.. Game means you’ll hang most of them though, over time . The whole 2 hour to bang thing isn’t Game. Fucking practicallyevery hot chick in your city over time, that’s game. Banging more.9’s consistently over time, is Game. Going to clubs and getting rejected by 8’s consistently is not game. You don’t know.how to fuck her. You place artificial time constraints on yourself unnecessarily. Game… Read more »
Archie is dead ass about delusional game.😂😂😂
Just because YOU cant bang a 9 (I haven’t this year…ive said that multiple times. just a decent amount of 8s) in under 2 hours, doesn’t mean that guys who can (very rare) pull that off are actually banging DTF average girls (I am very honest about the girls I bang. If I’m talking to a 6 or a 7 my wing will tap me on the shoulder from behind and say “upgrade” then I’ll leave that set…even tho I could have very easily banged her). Now go to bed old man. time to the young guys to party 😉… Read more »
Yes. Go forth grasshopper. But remember, I made the path you’re walking on.
Be safe. No jk.
Oh I forgot, most women know even.before they leave home that they are going to fuck somebody or dtf as the kids say ( shitty jersey shore nomenclature). It’s by degrees usually, but sometimes this is how the 9 will happily bang the short, fat, ugly dude with game. And know what else j? Sometimes they will hang @ any@ guy. Any guy at all. For that night, he’s a breathing dildo. You don’t spend time/years around women. YOU.are missing a lot of valuable intel. Most of the pie guys don’t seem to spend time around women.either, and it’s apparent… Read more »
Easy not ” highways ” above.
Wtf????? Highways????😂😂😂
@J “Just because YOU cant bang a 9 (I haven’t this year…” ever….not this year “If I’m talking to a 3 or a 4 my wing will tap me on the shoulder from behind and say “upgrade” then I’ll leave that set…even tho I could have very easily banged her). ” Fixed it for you… go upgrade to a 5 or 6 lololololololololol it all adds up “that’s the feel good shit I’m talking about (I used to believe it to). But seeing is believing. and by directly observing my PUA wings (former incels and former RSD inner circle members),… Read more »
@mers
Aye whatever makes your fake nigger ass feel better
@blax
“sometimes this is how the 9 will happily bang the short, fat, ugly dude with game”
Literally never happens…..
“A.2 hour pull fuck was.gonna fuck somebody [ with game]”
FIFY
“Go pull one off the street. Take 2 hours. Take more if you like. So this in.broad daylight at lunchtime”
Soooo only daygame is real game???
“Oh I forgot, most women know even before they leave home that they are going to fuck somebody “- valid point. @j let me break it down for you for each time you succeed: 30% is the fact that you are tall – 10% whatever game skills you apply + 10% bonus for the cold approach. 30% she has already made up her mind that she wants to fuck someone that night (cock carousel-er)/she is open from the onset to that possibility – 20% her reaction to hypergamous stimulus (your looks/game). Congratulations! 100% success with only 20% coming from your… Read more »
”point at stunning girls for you to approach, and if you banged 30 in a row, i’d accept that I AM wrong and that it really is all about ‘game’.”
I’d put a small amount of money on my wing that i’ve mentioned in some of my FR’s here being able to do this lol. (not that he has game though! haha)
@ j You getting a little extra…. Idk from ” day game “. There’s only Game. 24/7. Orson Pua’s teach disciples to go out to bars and clubs because it’s easier. Alcohol, music, party atmosphere – and some chicks looking to snag a dick just like guys are looking to get some ass. It doesn’t really take ” skill ” for the most part. A guy just needs to be fairly social and attract attention. If you consistently go to these places, you will get laid it you try. ” Game ” isn’t a requirement necessarily. These cats are only… Read more »
“sometimes this is how the 9 will happily bang the short, fat, ugly dude with game”
Literally never happens…..
Henry Kissinger…laid like tile…Bob Hope…laid like tile…both by lots of beautiful women…in their 70s, lolololol