For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
Married Red Pill Field Report: Life never seems to be un-eventful. A by product of this is the I feel life is moving too fast. I feel successful at my goals, but time is just flying by. Three topics: 1. Taking care of family 2. Went to a wedding for the first time in 10 years. 3. Did a comprehensive review of finances. Went to a college homecoming tailgater on Saturday. It took a bit of effort that turned out effortless. (let things develop in front of you while taking action and let things develop. The choose among those things… Read more »
@Culum Struan I am reading some of YaReally’s stuff, it is great. I see that I have a lot to improve on when it comes to text game. One more aspect I needed advice on is that whenever I meet a girl I am really attracted to and I feel that she would be great to have as a short term girlfriend or fuck buddy, basically someone I want to keep seeing at least for a while, after the first time I meet her, if we really hit it off I feel the need to arrange to meet again very… Read more »
@Gambler92: 1st, try to get the SNL. When logistics aren’t there, such is life. If the girls are initiating contact on the next day that is good. Culum already said, schedule a “day 2” right away seems to be the high probability play. Initiative is good, but chasing is bad. Look into timebridging (Mystery Method, probably also in Tyler Digest and YaReally archive). If it doesn’t materialize because she is too busy – the medium is the message. If it doesn’t materialize because she agrees then flakes – the medium is the message. In either those situations you probably messed… Read more »
@IAS – yes, it’s different when you’re on the outside advising someone else isn’t it? Everything is so clear in a way it isn’t when it’s happening to you (believe me, I’ve had my painful experiences of over-committing and chasing women too much by text and email, some far worse than yours..). @Gambler92 – You *should* try and meet a girl as soon as possible after the first meeting. That’s not a weakness, that’s the right thing to do (of course you shouldn’t be needy or thirsty or chase too much, but scheduling the meetup soon is a good thing).… Read more »
Best way too approach a random young girl in the daytime waiting at the bus stop when i’m not even waiting for a bus? Just noticed her on my way to the pub? I bottled it and have been angry with myself ever since. The online PUA’s always open with like ‘I saw you and thought you were hot and i’d be kicking myself” bla bla bla, but then I know we’re not supposed to be showing our hand before they show attraction And so then I was thinking of more indirect openers and stuff but nothing came to mind.… Read more »
@mackay – literally anything. Saying something (and the vibe with which you say it) is 100x more important than what you say.
Don’t beat yourself up about it – we’ve all been in that position of missing the opening window. The key is to use it as emotional fuel to do more approaches later and do better.
But as for your question – “Hi”. Or “You look like you’ve been waiting ages for a bus”. Or “I hate waiting for buses – what about you?”. Or “You’re cute. Whats your name?”. I mean – ANYTHING.
@SJF
I am glad things are working out for you. Nice report.
Changing the subject a bit, I saw this Atlantic article today (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/a-death-at-penn-state/540657/) about a student that died after some rather harsh hazing.
How do you handle hazing when you are RP? Do you play along to avoid being ostracized while setting some boundaries, or do you flat out refuse to engage?
@Archie “12:30 a.m. Fri. at my country bar…been dancing with fifteen different girls…one has moved close to me while dancing.” I’m not sure what this has to do with what is below DHV due to approaching so many girls and due to Preselection, isn’t it? The hat steal is one of those things that a girl can get away with – if you get mad, you look like a fool – if you do nothing, she can walk all over you – if you compliment her, she has your balls The hat steal was a shit test, right? Was this… Read more »
FYI they will kick you out of a corn maze if they catch you fucking in one.
@Gambler92 Girls flake. It has nothing to do with whether they’re in India or Indiana. The correct response to a sudden flake like that is to wait. She will panic when she doesn’t hear from you and realize how bad it reflects on her to flake suddenly. Then reply: “Oh…just got this. If we meet up again you’re buying…” Then leave it. I’ve used this many times and it always works IF the girl is truly invested. You spoke way too much, the 15 minute phone call—there’s way too much explaining and you just sound way too “nice”. The idea… Read more »
on my phone so short answers… @theasdgamer hat steal = A2 = female to male interest=IOI more important was who blinked first… literally…lol you smiled first and so lost the dominance display… if you are going to actually stare down a chick in situ ‘for real’, it could get pretty hot…lol… her nips pop up, she gets flushed, the full range of emotions shows on her face (as her limbic system cycles through its problem-solving subroutines looking for one that will fit the situ), etc… basically instant sexual access… unless you blink first… lol… it’s trippy…lol bc what is on… Read more »
@mackay
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/just-say-something/
@ ASD If the target didn’t see you dance with 15 other chicks, there’s no external pre-selection going on. *Internally* though, if you can dance with 15 chicks, what’s 16? what’s 20. These chicks are essentially interchangeable, and you need not put up with any of their shit. Which leads me to the hat theft. Under MM, that would be A2 – female to male interest. So your dancing with 15 other chicks and looking studly is your A1 – demonstration of value Her stealing your hat is her female to male interest (A2) Per the model, you need to… Read more »
@HABD
The girl was basically cuddled against me as we walked…that could have been A2, but it felt more like we were in C2 and the hat steal was an attempt to mirror/shit test.
@Archie She was drunk – so is that her true playful self coming out, or her Ukrainian/EE take everything that’s not nailed down self. Lol, girls and even other guys try to mess with my cover…they are usually drunk. Being playful and not necessarily any sexual intent…but when I stared at the girl, that triggered her hindbrain…the staring went on about ten secs and I got bored and went to nonverbally qualify how she looked with my hat on her head and she put my hat back. Without me even having to verbally tell her. Compliance. My subcomms were what… Read more »
@theasdgamer “The girl was basically cuddled against me as we walked…that could have been A2, but it felt more like we were in C2 and the hat steal was an attempt to mirror/shit test.” …Wut. This is just flirting 101 man aka 100% A2. “She ‘steals’ something from you–like a hat. You’re supposed to chase her into a room and kiss.” “Clumsiness or acting drunk as an excuse to lean on you, for you to hold her, and get your faces in kissing range.” https://thoughtcatalog.com/holly-riordan/2017/07/most-men-dont-realize-that-women-are-flirting-when-they-do-these-30-things/ After the stare down I would have closed the distance triangle gazing….pull the hat off… Read more »
@Archie If the target didn’t see you dance with 15 other chicks, there’s no external pre-selection going on. There’s always Preselection because girls will tell other girls to watch me dance because I keep the beat of the music. I even freestyle sometimes, but not too much because that would be try hard. I can dance on one leg and girls like that and it shows vigor. One of the preselecting girls danced Hip Hop with me…I was just moving and have never taken lessons and the girl wanted to do some stuff where she supported me and she was… Read more »
@j
push her against the wall and covering the two of you with the hat so the crowd doesn’t see
Logistics don’t allow this (no accessible walls and there’s 360 degrees of visibility on the dance floor), but a viable option was to invite her to go out to my truck…drink some sangria and chat…no promises of anything happening one way or the other. Would have to sneak somehow. All hypothetical because I practice catch and release.
@j @Archie @HABD @PUA
So a girl doing a grabass and run is in A2? Even when she’s not drunk and is with her bf on a date? If this girl wants secret action, then there’s no “it just happened.”
@theasdgamer
“If this girl wants secret action, then there’s no “it just happened.”
she wants to FEEL like it just happened, even if she wants it and knows it’s very likely going to happen.
@j
Hypothetically, if I weren’t doing catch and release, for the sake of other readers, how about triangulating and saying, “darlin,”…[pull]…”you’re going to have to stay away from me”…[push]…”there’s too much chemistry”…[pull]…”otherwise, you’ll end up in my truck naked with my cock in your mouth”…[time bridge and sexual]…turn away…[push and forces her to chase]
Blax… follow on from the Paternity post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRk9-BjnPVE I upload infield with me saying a lot of witty jokes, and some ridiculous antics because it works and it’s entertaining but I don’t want my audience to feel as though it’s the ONLY way. More importantly than being flashy when you’re learning pickup especially picking up girls during the day is establishing a relatively basic social comfort. You want the girl feel like you’re a pretty normal dude who just so happened to see a girl he wanted to talk to and he EXECUTED. In this particular interaction, I went up… Read more »
Progress Report Hey – been lurking for the past couple of months while I try out an LTR w/ the girl I picked up from the pool. It’s been interesting to say the least! 3 months in and the intimacy frequency is where I want it and for the most part things are going well between us. Wanted to relay a couple of instances to you all and get your feedback on your take. 1. There have been a couple different instances where she’ll deliberately not follow my lead. For example, I roll up to her place with plans to… Read more »
Catchers What’s up man… Good to hear from you. Why are you not spinninh plates friend? Why are you not making this girl a ride or die girl? You are stuck in the middle… This “3. Another thing I bristled at in the bedroom was she will refuse certain position which I enjoy. The sex is great and frequent but I don’t think I’m getting her best. In the throws of passion she shut me down and completely killed the moment and she knew it.” Is really unfucking believable. Seriously You are months into things… Thoughts are… 1. Start spinning… Read more »
” I don’t think I’m getting her best. In the throws of passion she shut me down ”
Seriously this cannot be fathomed. That’s not the throws of passion… And you are not getting her best.
You are the prize and deserve better.
Now go get it.
“Am I being too sensitive to this failure to follow by her?”
Next time this shouldn’t ever come up because you will never ever go mono with a girl who is not 100% in your frame, with you having massive hand. ✋
There should be no frame battles now and if there are you should be winning all of them.
More asshole. Stat.
Oh and what is the age diff between you? You’re younger right?
Catchers
Just remember man it is not only OK for her to be mad, sad, cry, say she hates you at times, etc.
She wants it that way. Get it?
Ha….
“Granted, the compliments I do give her are indirect and infrequent but what’s at play here? Her self-confidence? ”
Frame battle… She is setting the frame and you are to hop in it. Laugh at this shit.
Holy Zeus… Seriously… Practice on her while spinning new plates, then drop her.
@Sentient Thanks, brother. This board is like warm coffee on a cold day. She’s 5 years older than I am. After the hellish work trip I had planned to dump her but she’s been evasive on a meet – girls can sense these things. Heading her way to “have a talk” to recap the last week and lay down the law in 30 mins then dinner with friends after. I’ve already made it known directly that I have non-negotiables and willing to walk should she choose incorrectly. She tried to frame it as me being controlling but I flipped it… Read more »
Man this is perfect for Rollo to do a Post on.
Catchers “but she’s been evasive on a meet – girls can sense these things. Heading her way to “have a talk” to recap the last week and lay down the law in 30 mins then dinner with friends after.” Evasive? Fuck that. Just don’t meet her. Just go do your thing till she comes chasing. There should be very very little laying down the law… She learns by negative reinforcement that when she displeases you she gets less and less of you. Talking ain’t doing friend and it ain’t going to solve shit, except accelerate her monkey branches to her… Read more »
@Catchers
Read the advice Ya gave @Harrison Bergeron at the bottom of this comment here:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/7/#comment-rationalmale-162792
Got a bunch to say and no time at the moment, but David Justice was married once upon a time to Halle Berry. http://img.usmagazine.com/760-width/1446569981_david-justice-halle-berry-zoom.jpg At that time, every black man in America had an absolutely RAGING hard on for Ms. Berry. Yours truly included. A little before and during their divorce, Mr. Justice was being crucified in the press for being mean to Ms. Berry. I recall reading an interview with Mr. Justice where he gave his side of the story. The part that jumped off the page at me was when he said that she constantly needed to be… Read more »
Follow Sentient’s advice and dump her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gab7rrzOr2I
aim younger too
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/32-vs-21/
“This is why you should always take older men’s opinions of the sexual appeal of older women with a grain of salt; they have weaker memories of the superiority of their long-ago conquests, and their fragile egos oblige them to proclaim endless paeans to the wonders of the older woman.”
sorry blax lol
Lol, everyone is entitled to their opinions…. based on their own experience and ability.
No apology needed.
” lol this goes back to what I said in the earlier convo with Scray Forge etc…this is exactly how SHE feels when you DHV and then do a takeaway. It’s why Julien/Todd recommend if you want an SNL *DON’T* give her your phone number. If you DO then she’s going to think blah blah blah…. Julien and Todd blah blah blah…..”
Lol.
@Catchers: >>She’s in her late 30’s and I asked her what her intent was pregnancy wise. She told me she wants to get pregnant sooner rather than later. This explains everything: the anxiety, the constant shit-testing, the tensions over who plans what. 3 months into a LTR? Don’t be so quick to jump into anything exclusive especially with a woman who’s older than yourself. I sense some hesitancy on your part and sense that you don’t deserve better or you’re in this because it’s become comfortable and suddenly 3 months in the problems are starting. Start reading more about game.… Read more »
Lmao wish i could make one of these memes for when Blax sees anything related to RSD
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/185/727/434.jpg
Blax J
Yeah that RSD advice is spot on. I never go for numbers. Number is like a large appetizer, kills the appetite. SNL game is push to bang and if that fails 9 times out of 10 the girl will force her number on you anyway. Never ask for it.
Also not asking is a preselection DHV and puts you into AF slot.
Nice post Wala. You always have these hard fought lessons. Keep grinding…
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always funny to see someone trying to frame their ignorance and inexperience as a virtue; why so funny? cuz we’ve all done that, then at some point you start to realize listening will get you more wisdom than running your mouth; then we see the next wave doing it and with a knowing smile we’re reminded
@Asd Chicks stealing stuff from you can be interpreted a lot of ways. The only way you could have known that her behavior was favorable interest(A2) is that when show the chick interest (A3) she responds properly and the interaction moves forward. It may seem counterintuitive, but success with A3 proves A2. Going in with upfront sexual interest is direct. I can already the male hamsters of the lurkers break away from the cage. The player move was to assume that it was on, and get some isolation. Moving her to isolation is both you showing carnal interest, the first… Read more »
Hopefully Catcher takes the advice here.
At 33(?) you shouldn’t be around 38yo women other than for quick and easy sex. 28ish should be max for you at that age, imo. Not because all older women are unattractive as some claim, but because you’re 33 — you should be with girls in their 20s.
@Catchers Separate from the excellent comments of Sentient and Walawala And please take this as abstract observations rather than concrete advice. Don’t reason with her. Her emotions are driving her. You cannot explain to her what is best for the relationship. Do not try to explain to her in a logical fashion. Just demonstrate what and who you are. Demonstrate leadership. If she doesn’t want to submit, don’t you submit to her. Keep Frame. Don’t be beholden to her Frame. Yes she is trying to control you by trying to pull you into your frame. You are very observant. The… Read more »
Good points SJF.
Catchers one more question.. she swallow?
“Catchers one more question.. she swallow?”
Obviously the answer to that is no. Why? Cause she is holding out in order to hook him and reel him in. If she would swallow, it would telegraph (sub-communicate) that she is not a good mother. She wants to be a mother for his child. She’s skilled at Female Game. Really skilled.
“Hopefully Catcher takes the advice here.” he won’t. that’s why he posted. he already knows what to do. he only posed the question so he could tell himself that he considered several well informed opinions before going with his….. heart. because….. nawalt unicorn very few guys are willing to walk away from wet pussy. isn’t that why we got married? so we would have a hot wet piece to fuck as much as we wanted for as long as we could get it up? does she swallow? that’s not the question. the question is, did she let you do every… Read more »
@ Catchers Everyone that has weighed in have made excellent points. There’s just a couple of things that I want to comment on for what it’s worth – 1. There have been a couple different instances where she’ll deliberately not follow my lead. For example, I roll up to her place with plans to take her to place A to eat dinner and she’ll subtly recommend we try somewhere else instead and I’m pretty agreeable so we go somewhere else. Later she relates to me that sometimes she feels anxious because she feels like she has to plan our weekends.… Read more »
“New found respect for those of your in LTRs and marriages while applying TRP being red pill aware” the more red pill aware I became, the LESS respect I had for myself for being in that situation I did the math, and last sunday my wife had my cock in her mouth for a total of one hour. this was divided between a bj, a bj/fuck and a bj. she licks my balls everyday. every day she gives her best. I now realize this is in no way normal. the vast majority of husbands will not live like that. but… Read more »
@Blax @ Catchers
Solid gold comment.
I will add that when leading a good leader has eyes in the back of his head,if you keep looking to her she will balk like prey.
@blax
“Field stuff and pua stuff is different than ltr or marriage stuff.”
lol Heartiste has written some of the best articles dedicated to LTR + marriage shit:
http://www.rooshv.com/top-15-game-tips-for-long-term-relationships
and the articles filled under “relationships” and “marriage” here:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-42283.html
but after experiencing LTRs some guys (like YaReally and BlackDragon for instance) realize that they’re not worth the headache and all that comes with them, and prefer maintaining a stable of FBs instead:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/6/#comment-rationalmale-161082
@Archie Thanks for the breakdown. There is such a thing as a cuddle slut. Never thought about it, but when a girl cuddles, I say that I don’t like to cuddle before sex and I smile and move her away, typically. If she’s drunk and obviously needs support, I stay close. She gets something pleasurable but not necessarily sexual from being close to you like that. Or she gets a social boost from dancing close with me. Instead you stopped the flow, stared at her to correct her behavior. Yeah, and I’m sure the lesson won’t stick and the girl… Read more »
…if a married man takes the red pill and doesn’t look back with disgust and contempt for his former self, then did he really take it? You are a good Red Pill man Fleezer. Don’t let yourself tell you otherwise. You are an outlier, (thanks gods for us on this blogz, cause your rock the Red Pill). I personally like myself prior to and certainly after a Manosphere and Red Pill and Game conversion. Now? My heart sings and my mind rubs its hands with glee. I’m very comfortable with who I was and who I now am, and whom… Read more »
It’s funny, but Catchers Indifference made me think of this frame battling and him slipping under the riptide of a mature female’s power to undercut him. Makes me want to consider how many of the 48 Laws of Power might be at his disposal. Keep in mind, I’m a huge proponent of LTR Game. Huge. But that is only because I know myself. Really well. I’m an outlier in that. It fits me but I’m only 2% of males as an INTJ. I’m not advocating for anything other than to have Agency. I’m not advocating for not fucking a girl… Read more »
@ j Why u fucking with me so much tonight? Lol. I respect any man than admits that something is beyond his ability, or if he decides that whatever it is, it’s not worth it. People give up all the time. Every day. But I personally could care less how many articles were/are written about marriage by men who were never married, and find ltr’s too cumbersome. As I said a thousand time during the long winded marriage debate, if these things are not for you, do not – under any circumstances – do them. No problem. Ya rambled ad… Read more »
Oh, and for clarification, I draw distinctions between ” pua ” and ” game “. I know that’s taboo in the sphere, lol, but it is what it is.
Alright let’s hear it man
Game Vs Pua by Blaximus
I’m sure we’d all be happy to hear your thoughts on the distinction
Blaximus October 25, 2017 at 9:26 pm @ j Why u fucking with me so much tonight? Lol. Funny as shit. When you want to get mentored in a pursuit: Go to someone who is good at it. J’s pointing at Roosh, Heartiste and YaReally’s Sentiments about LTR’s is fucking laughable so much as to be heresy. LOL, fucking LOL. Fucking Ideology. Red Pill is not that Ideology. It is not even close to ideology. It is goal driven praxeology for the individual. It is amoral. It is self derived awareness and Game depending on your self needed needs. Know… Read more »
Please excuse my Pressure of Speech here tonight. I’m trying to come down off my Peak Experience. Which I think is the direct opposite of ASDgamers stimming thing. But probably the same trait. This is a periodic thing with me. Because of the fact that I have a penchant for doing things good and having Peak experiences, even if they are mundane for others. Fuck. I went to my farm. I harvested/trimmed some stuff, some of which was tedious. Some of which was simple and took a couple seconds separate from the main task: harvesting and washing and putting in… Read more »
@SJF “And like and desire what the fuck we are doing because we are doing what the fuck we want to do.” That’s cool man. You resonate more with what @WIA refered to as the ‘King’ path: https://therationalmale.com/field-reports/comment-page-49/#comment-218330 Ya wasn’t a fan of the traditional king path. he tried it and realized he was was miserable. So rather than sucking it up and going along that path, he (along with other puas) took the alternative path: the ‘player’ path (which I very much resonate with). So now that we just skip that boring LTR shit we can “desire what the… Read more »
@Catchers: DUDE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR SPERM.
Don’t trust her with the birth control, and don’t even leave the used condoms where she can access them. Similarly if she doesn’t swallow.
@Everyone else: I didn’t see this important cautionary remark in your advice to Catchers, at least not within the first replies.
Hey, Sun Wukong who helped me so much. (literally flipped my switch).
@Catchers – welcome back. Good advice from everyone else. I won’t repeat that. I will only add that there is no right and wrong. You are entitled to do whatever YOU really want to do. Monogamous marriage, spinning plates, younger women, older women, whatever. It’s not WRONG to marry an older woman. As long as you do it because you really want to and you know the tradeoffs you are making. I will say: 1. Be aware of the tradeoffs and disadvantages – of monogamy and of doing so with an older woman in particular. 2. Do not do it… Read more »
I think Field Reports is the right section for this.. I’m trying to understand – why is the parade of men being accused of sexual harassment/assault/rape recently – all apologizing? Not just Weinstein (who seems to be well over the line into criminal sexual assault, if not rape), but Bush Sr apologizing for touching someone’s ass, or Silicon Valley pundit Robert Scoble (who seems to have gotten into trouble for drunkenly, but consensually making out with a drunk woman at a convention, and then allegedly grabbing the breasts of the journalist who decided to wait years and then take him… Read more »
@Culum
“’m trying to understand – why is the parade of men being accused of sexual harassment/assault/rape recently – all apologizing?”
Sometimes you have to really think outside of sociosexual dynamics and look at the — bigger picture–
I’m trying to.
No doubt these guys are under tremendous pressure from employer/family/friends etc to do something like an apology – but my point is that that is the wrong decision.
@Culum Struan
Most of these guy have probably never tried it before at least not on the public level. It reeks of ceeding power to the FI,maybe they are ready to do that.
Coupled with gray speckled bird syndrome,a last chance to repent. Maybe?
They don’t want to end up like Bill,stuck with the Hildabeast.
The strangest thing is the old church ladies holding up the examples of the repentant while gloating over them.
Great speckled bird ,also represents mobbing behavior. How to these men react when mobbed?
They’re trying to do damage control, clearly, even though they may not be aware that it will be ineffective. For the guys who are looking at being prosecuted potentially (Weinstein), they should of course not offer anything at this stage — that’s standard. For the guys who are likely not looking at being prosecuted (Scoble, maybe Wieseltier, Halperin, the NO chef guy, etc.), I think they are vainly trying to run damage control and not understanding why it won’t be effective for them to do it by means of an apology. I do think, in the bigger picture, it’s dumb… Read more »
@J and Culum I totally endorse your comments in regards to Catchers Non-Indifference. Great cite of West Indian Archie, too @J. I’m not advocating for monogamy or marriage. You guys should know that. I’m an outlier. I advocate for Red Pill. And I know who I am and what I want. And I pursue that. YaReally was in great conflict with his other 2% of himself. I endorse his other 98% and greatly respect it. Because PUA game is the bedrock of MRP Game and greatly complements RP awareness. Mersonia, nice meme. You’re a dick. Cause I don’t Panda (er)… Read more »
Culum I’m trying to understand – why is the parade of men being accused of sexual harassment/assault/rape recently – all apologizing? They are Equalists and they are serving the Marxist Equalist agenda with their virtue signalling This was supposed to be the Year of the Woman, Hillary enthroned and open season on men, a Marxist revolution to redress all past wrongs, real or imagined. So the pump has been primed for a while with these stories, and now we are to see a parade of the contrite, all of whom know their lines… and the cumulative effect was to be… Read more »
Y’know Sentient, I didn’t think of it while writing my original post, but of course, the best recent example of shrugging off allegations of this sort (although not as serious as Weinstein of course) is Trump’s pussy-grabbing and related exploits – and if I remember correctly he pretty much did what I’m suggesting – he ignored it and engaged as minimally as possible and eventually it faded away – he certainly didn’t apologize.
….he ignored it and engaged as minimally as possible and eventually it faded away – he certainly didn’t apologize. Most important he didn’t DEER: Defend, Explain, Excuse, Rationalize his own behavior when accused. He did as much as he could to STFU. https://rianstonept.blogspot.ca/2016/10/decisions.html The golden solution The best solution out of all this is to STFU. I put that above lifting on the RP map of every man. Isn’t it supposed to be lifting? Yes. Having said that, the guy who doesn’t lift is no worse than when he started. He started at 0, and is still a 0. the… Read more »
Caution: discern why Trump is ” just ignoring it “. Understand who Trump has demonstrated himself to be and his full circumstance. @ j I’ll elaborate some later. But as I’ve repeatedly explained, pua is a codified language of female seduction ( as sentient defines ). Period, end of sentence. Game is a life philosophy coupled with execution. There are levels to Game. Call them Novice to Master for the sake of argument. Real Game is never one dimensional and is intertwined in every aspect of one’s life. Pua concentrates on one dimension of Game. Nuance is lost in codification… Read more »
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“Real Game is never one dimensional and is intertwined in every aspect of one’s life.” excellent, can’t be overstated for me, I have game in most if not all other aspects of my life… I know how to get what I want and keep the bullshit to a minimum; I’m here to work on the intersexual aspects of game but I’m not coming from zero… I have some RP stuff already to work with and some successes in the past but that’s not the case for many, especially younger guys still trying to figure it all out, not just women… Read more »
“think of pua as the ‘gateway’ to RP/game and not the end-all-be-all”
Most of the PUA’s don’t think of it like this. Tyler is an Equalist, for example.
“That’s pua. A singular focus for a singular purpose.” “That’s really what game is — the active transformation of your personality from mundane to mesmerizing, based on a conceptual foundation derived from evolutionary biology and real world feedback that the male personality attributes which most women find sexually attractive are identifiable, objective and acquirable.” So Heartiste definition of game (which puas teach you how to do) is incorrect? “Game is a life philosophy coupled with execution.” Elon Musk is someone that immediately comes to mind with a strong life philosophy + execution but when it comes to women…well http://www.tmz.com/2016/10/21/elon-musk-divorce-settlement/ http://people.com/celebrity/elon-musk-amber-heard-split-speaks-out/… Read more »
You have a idealistic and false idea of game based on fantasy and not life. Pua-centric. Elon musk doesn’t even figure into the conversation. And yes, 90% of what you state that heartiste said is not what game is about at its core. Again, pua-centric, and this perfectly illustrates my issue with what is called ” game ” in the sphere. And yes, I get that heartiste is some kind of manosphere hero or some shit, but 1) the real world is much bigger than a corner of the internet, and 2) Game recognize Game. Heartiste does practice a strong… Read more »
Elon’s life philosophy, the way he thinks and how he goes about executing his strategy for anyone that wants to read it (still one of best articles I’ve ever read):
https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/11/the-cook-and-the-chef-musks-secret-sauce.html
Elon Musk is an example of someone who has a part of the puzzle but not the whole thing. He has the professional/business side of it down well, but he doesn’t get the woman side of the puzzle very well, and therefore he has had the history he has. Clearly his status and money attract women — including quite attractive women like Riley and Heard. But Musk married Riley twice and therefore has two divorce settlements with her, which ha always indicated to me that he really has poor judgment when it comes to relationships with women. He got slightly… Read more »
….. I still fondly remember when guys widely worshiped Roosh. Lmao.
I “worship” heartiste and RSD, like I “worship” Shane Parrish (who runs the excellent blog, Farnam Street) because I apply what they write on the internet to real life and it works exactly the way they said it would. So I recommend them to others. If what they said is bullshit (which I would find out immediately via real life feedback) then I wouldn’t “worship” them.
“So Heartiste definition of game . . . is incorrect?”
No.
THIS is incorrect: ” . . . (which puas teach you how to do) . . .”
Damn I wonder how I got so good with women and started making friends with rich dudes all of a sudden. I thought it was because I stumbled upon on Heartiste 3 years ago and applied game principles he wrote about to real life. Sheeeiit.
And I wonder how I was able to do all of that with heartiste or the sphere…. Lol.
” without heartiste… “
@all WOW. Thanks for all of the feedback and support. One of the things I appreciate the most is the diversity of viewpoints as I’m gleaning so much knowledge. Another is the brutal honesty – it’s not often you get an unencumbered evaluation in life and I thrive on honesty. If I’m fucking up I want to be called out on it! After becoming red pill aware I had sex with and dated many girls in succession and was willing to drop each of them as needed with barely a second thought. At the time I was considering a relationship… Read more »
Catchers Well since you are a fan of brutal honesty… She swallowed the first couple of times but doesn’t anymore. And there you go. Despite where you think you are with her, she is telling you that you aren’t there. Massively reliable tell of female attraction. I’ve never been with someone that so overtly will break rapport for seemingly no reason. Oh there is a reason… two really. One to show you that you aren’t there and two, to keep you in her frame. I’m going to use this opportunity to refocus on what’s important to me and stride in… Read more »
Nova AF/BB — it’s as ironclad as the law of gravity, gents. Ha… beta Musk is dropped… for a muscly stuntman by still in demand Heard, he pines… “Although Amber and I did break up, we are still friends, remain close and love one another,” Musk wrote on Instagram. “Long distance relationships when both partners have intense work obligations are always difficult, but who knows what the future holds.” — E. Musk On the other end… 38YO Pratt gets muscly http://i.imgur.com/0iZLUAi.jpg and drops 40YO Faris… Who runs into the arms of… the most beta faced beta of the year… Just… Read more »
and Brad Pitt upgrades from 42 yr old Angelina to fresh 21 yr old Ella
as does Scott Disick 38 yr old Kourtney to fresh 19 yr old Sofia
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But as I’ve repeatedly explained, pua is a codified language of female seduction ( as sentient defines ). Period, end of sentence. Game is a life philosophy coupled with execution. Silly shit…biology is just biology and girls are just girls…how you approach life may be your game plan, but it’s silly to mingle your game plan with biology…professional pua’s try to turn biology into some mysterious “seduction” in order to sell their services, but it’s really not that complicated @all Don’t take Blax seriously when he tries to make the definition of “game” vague. Everyone has their flaws. Blax doesn’t… Read more »
@j
What’s a week in your life like? What type of interactions with women work for you? Are you happy? What do you spend most of your time on, without being too specific?
@Catchers To be brief. Spend most of my time freelancing. I’m pretty introverted so I read to learn new shit (currently reading “the hungry brain: outsmarting the instincts that make us overeat”on my kindle) not always pickup shit (I browse the top articles on hacker news) Only podcast I listen to is pardon my take. Watch older movies cause current movies are shit (watched Casablanca last night) Currently looking to upgrade my workout routine cause I’ve stagnated a bit. only go out weekends (every once in a while, I go out on a Thursday) with wingmen. Weekdays I’ll text a… Read more »
” . . . watched Casablanca last night . . .”
Tonight watch To Have and Have Not. Same basic story (but by Hemingway and Faulkner), many of the same people, but that weepy putz replaced with a sassy street urchin:
One of the hardest things for me to reconcile is that as far as I can tell the vast majority of the red pill teachings are entirely subconscious for women. It doesn’t make the concepts any less true but in practice I’ve found it difficult to hold women accountable because often times I’ve found they are not conscious of their behavior. For example, when I met my gf we were both walking to a shady spot near the pool and she got there first. I was interested so I consciously opened her with something funny to which she responded to… Read more »
@ catchers ” It feels like you’re fighting a ghost at times with the frame battles I’ve been through. I’m fighting someone that doesn’t know they are in a fight. This is just the way it is for her and she has no notion of what the concept of frame is the same way a star is indifferent to astronomy. They are just the way they’ve always been because that’s the way her parents, family, society, past relationships have molded her over time.” Lol, this is why it’s a waste of time to try and ” fight ” with them/their… Read more »