For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
“Go fondle the hundreds of old guy DPA photos you have lying around”
that’s some funny shit, gotta admit I was wondering what’s all that about, Sent, lol
“Email and text messages are admissible in court and can even be subpoenaed.”
“If you’re going through a divorce, you can be certain your spouse and lawyer are combing through your online life.”
“If you’re gonna cheat, be discreet.” Travel. Groups. ONS’s.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-morrow/a-look-at-how-social-medi_b_10633940.html
Plausible deniability. Family Court judges are white knights. Don’t make weapons for them to use against you.
Ton, doesn’t Proverbs say something about using discretion?
Liz wants a spankin. 🙂
Dr Zipper
that’s some funny shit, gotta admit I was wondering what’s all that about, Sent, lol
Really?
http://thumbsnap.com/s/xjEgd4m7.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/16/article-2395056-1B5141E1000005DC-211_634x888.jpg
ASD Being hauled before a judge with evidence of your ” online ” activities is the domain inhabited by the suckiest of suckers. Men don’t have copious amounts of ” evidence ” of anything online, particularly ” married ” men. Remember, young girls ( and increasingly older gals ) need all that online validation. Men don’t. A pic of a naked girl, sent by that girl, proves dick. Lol. If you’re documenting your activities by text and email, you deserve all the fuckery that the court system is happy to bestow for being stupid. Paranoia is beta. Don’t be paranoid.… Read more »
keep ’em coming, sent, I’m almost…. almost…. finished
on IRL’s photo of the loop de loop… some more background for your DPA file… 25YO Matt Macduff… and his dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYw8NHI9BMo and male dynamism, passion and authenticity on display… building this loop in the wild for a month straight… and the gigantic ballz to climb up there and give it a go… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4i7aE6BJe8 And the painful outcome… On saturday march 19th, [2016] Matt Macduff sustained a terrible fall attempting to make his way around the Loop Of Doom. After over 3 year of research, determination and hard work, Matt managed to find everything he needed to make his project… Read more »
“A pic of a naked girl, sent by that girl, proves dick. Lol.”
Nakies sent by 100 diff girls is a problem. Even if there’s no paper trail that you requested any.
On line, I was flirting with a girl. Another girl said I’m smooth (shit test) and the first girl agreed and upqualified me with “how romantic.” Online flirting is nothing, even to Family Court judges. Sure, I’m paranoid, lol.
@asd @j Thanks for the advice guys that’s good stuff. This past FR was me realizing how easy it is to take over sets as long as you have…not even energy, but momentum. German girl, brazilian chick, loud girl (especially, lol), and glasses girl I had enough interest to pull — or at least I would with one more solid spike or so. Yup, key is getting those girls to throw at dude. That’s why german girl’s date got mad, he thought I was trying to steal his date…which ironically I was not. If I had showed up with a… Read more »
I might end up reading this…. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/books/review/evolution-of-beauty-richard-prum-charles-darwin.html just for the birds: “The male’s aesthetic and social qualities are repeatedly tested, judged and (through selection) modified according to whether they please potential mates. Thus the females’ individual preferences, says Prum, help drive evolution.” “Like all selection, this is not intended to reach any particular goal; it just unfolds according to the demands of either fitness, or in this case, beauty.” “this “aesthetic” courtship, says Prum, creates an environment, temperaments and rituals — a sort of culture — that give the female sexual choice, autonomy and safety. ” “this is not about… Read more »
@IAS “@j: I don’t even know how to do it inside a car (but I can guess). Same shit as everywhere else. It can get super awkward but girls don’t care as long as you don’t think you should stop. Not too long ago was in a car with a stripper she was in passenger seat reclined I was trying to do something forgot what ,but got my foot stuck between the ignition and car seat. Stuck for like 5 minutes and just told her to suck my dick because I literally couldn’t do shit and fell back like 3… Read more »
and this is why taking action is so important….
“You are what you do”
“The only way to get use to it is to do it.”
yes, mers, this is the kind of good shit that many here would hope you keep pushing, not that trolling shit
@Sentient “@Hank has lost the focus… the BE Ruthless aspect. Since girls love feelz… until they are gone, you have to act on the feelz… otherwise you’ll get “Nice to meet you!” and a dick in hand…” I disagree…. Can’t lose something you never had…. He’s never had the focus on having sex …which is his problem. Once he starts actually playing the game he’ll prob get the focus. Obviously he’s beating his meat frequently because he never makes any moves in his fr’s (cause he also self doubts and is afraid to risk ) and have any guy go… Read more »
@Blaximus “Drinking, smoking and drugging, along with an impressive dick count for their ages. “ https://youtu.be/kkDZPC-M_ek?t=1399 reminded me of Patrice o neals take on this. if you go to 23:00 minutes he starts talking about it. @Hank So if I go too big, try and take a girl and I fuck it up and people get mad at me, that’s it. Everyone will know and it will fuck up the rest of the times I want to go out. Your moving soon so it doesn’t matter that much. If you go out trying not to fuck up your not going… Read more »
Mersonia
“I disagree…. Can’t lose something you never had….”
True enough… ego investments, buffers, self image etc.
went to wally world and was waiting in line at self-checkout & hot girl attendant approaches me She: I’ll take care of you. [I’m instantly in the zone…never had an attendant check me out before] Me: So you’ll take care of me huh? She: [blushes] we chat about shit including her drinking habits…she mentions her husband…I mention my wife hating beer…she admits liking girlie drinks…she only drinks at home…she asks for my id, lol…getting intel…she blushes a few more times…she says she needs my birthdate…bullshit, she could enter anything in the birthdate…mentions her husband several times in the context of… Read more »
Blush /bləSH/ verb verb: blush; 3rd person present: blushes; past tense: blushed; past participle: blushed; gerund or present participle: blushing 1. develop a pink tinge in the face from embarrassment or shame. “she blushed at the unexpected compliment” synonyms: redden, turn/go pink, turn/go red, flush, color, burn up; More feel shy, feel embarrassed “Joan blushed at the compliment” •feel embarrassed or ashamed. “he blushed to think of how he’d paraded himself” •(of a flower or other thing) be or become pink or pale red. “the trees are loaded with blushing blossoms” noun noun: blush; plural noun: blushes; noun: blush wine;… Read more »
I got a better question: What does it mean when you’re talking to a girl and she blushes and her nipples get visibly hard?
http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/67/37/fbfc3adaaada9fa5051635509bc23cdd-cringe2.jpg
@Blax
It means you pulled off her brassiere in public.
FR Well I got the law called on me today. Two young, earnest law dogs show up. One is blonde and cute. So I call her darling, wink and only respond to the young dude. I make fun of them for being cops, introduce myself only as Ton until they get my ID, confirmed what I said, told them I was not communicating a threat but making a promise, ensured they understood if the law doesn’t stop the behavioir targeting my kin I will. They “elected” not to arrest me….. real formal like they were calling the shots. All the… Read more »
So, nobody has a clue what a girl blushing means in terms of her state?
Those law bitches are so much fun to game.
“So, nobody has a clue what a girl blushing means in terms of her state?” I suppose you are going to tell us that it’s a sign of of physical attraction from the hot check out girl at Walmart. But it can be multiple things. Girls working at Walmart with drinker husbands may or may not suffer from low self esteem. Embarrassment is certainly the most common reason for blushing. A hot girl with high self esteem certainly won’t first blush. It’s a response of the sympathetic nervous system. Some girls with fair skin are genetically programmed to blush at… Read more »
@ hank @ mersonia and anyone else that’s been replying to hank’s latest fr. Hank, mersonia has been hitting you with some real truth. Sentient has been trying to hit you with the same for over a year. I’ve been staying out of it for the most part. But indifference isn’t working out for me as I have a few things to say in a very non-YaReally way. Mersonia hit the nail on the head when he said ” All of this just says you just want validation. Also it’s clear your goal isn’t to fuck a girl , but… Read more »
@SJF Sure, her state is social embarrassment. She was sure her mind was being read. And she’s obviously a good girl who doesn’t go out drinking, but only drinks with her husband and only when her daughter is out of the house. The girl felt socially insecure, so she blushed. Feeling socially insecure was her state. And because I made her feel that way, she saw me as dominant and was feeling attraction and beginning to feel aroused. Of course it was for fun. That girl had something to think about the rest of her shift. Made her day a… Read more »
@mersonia @blax So no more excuses. No more talk about Heath issues. I’ve lost too many friends, one just passed over the weekend, to hear a young cat talking about his heath. Fix that shit asap. It’s your fucking health we’re talking about here. Don’t you give a shit about yourself? And that’s another thing – I want to know the truth. Do you understand that without your health you are fucked? Do you understand the importance of taking good care of yourself? Do you get that health is more important than anything else? I think there is a misunderstanding… Read more »
Gentlemen some feedback would be appreciated on my FR. Go out on Saturday with a crew, end up at a bar. I’m in good form, work every group of single women there. I was in a pretty good mood and not very focused on outcome, there were some girls in our group, and we were out on the piss, so I was just having fun. During the course of the evening I start chatting to one of the hired guns. I have seen her there before, HB10, seemed quite aloof and must be hit on constantly. But tonight she wants… Read more »
Blacker Pill
There is no tomorrow in ass smashing
Always go for the bang. Worst case she says no, best case she says yes, most likely case for most dudes is trying to go for the lay lowers the odds she will flake. The closer you get to fucking her when you meet her( making out, hands down her pants etc) the more she is invested in you, the lower her odds of flaking
Personally, ending up with a girls number is pretty much the end of my interaction with her. She can text etc 1st, i never do
@Blacker Pill “how about hitting Adventureland” You want a date experience or what? What’s wrong with a quick coffee and then moving her to your place? Or just telling her to come over to do something together? Or letting her suck your dick in the car park after work? You could follow cobi’s 1st-date-sex model. You could follow Blackdragon’s 2-day model. Know what you want first. Coming up with a plan and executing it is the easy part. “Later when I am about to leave with my group she walks out, and she gives me a smoldering look as she… Read more »
@hank holiday
“I have a lot of internal issues to work through”
Start with this one:
Blacker Pill +1 on all of IRL’s comments… You had a tiger by the tail and fluffed it… This is you brah… ^^ More worried about looking cool than stepping to it and smashing. Put it all together man… Go out on Saturday with a crew, end up at a bar. I was in a pretty good mood and not very focused on outcome, there were some girls in our group, and we were out on the piss, so I was just having fun. So let’s see here… dude rolls into a bar laughing and joking and not needy with… Read more »
@Blackerpill Sentient breakdown was pretty spot on. I refuse to play the attention provision/orbiter/performing monkey game on these apps, so I don’t think I did the wrong thing by pushing towards as face to face close and not trying to build attraction further. Good luck. If you wanted a face to face close you should’ve went up to the car and tried to fuck. Next time I am going to just set up the date then and there ‘if you’re keen meet me at x on Tuesday for quiz night’ and if they flake they flake, but no more of… Read more »
Love to see West Indian Archie’s take on the Blacker Pill FR…
What say you Archie?
@Hank Holiday The old man and I were having this discussion at work on the methods of killing the overactive male libido that have been employed over the years by,military,moms,wifes and social orders.Covered the salt peter,willow bark and different things and came up with the most effective treatment as being a bossy woman. I am making the assumption that you have had a mother,teachers and likely a female boss and been under the matriarchal thumb your entire life, my suggestion is get out from under it now. Just walk away and go to work for a man,get out of mom’s… Read more »
@Hank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkfBwdGT944&t=29s The problem in this instance was all these girls being with dates, and not knowing how I could poach them from the guys…or if I even felt morally okay doing that. ^not your issue. Okay you like tyler from RSD… so he talks about the humans RAS … so when you focus on trying to get sex your mind will figure out ways…. but your not focused on that…… see here I head inside quick to use restroom. Stern looking black dude at door to the building. “are you the bouncer” “fuck no, just waiting here.” “You have… Read more »
@sentient okay I get your points. What actually happened was when she texted back I didn’t know what the fuck to say. I really don’t do text game well at all, and I can’t fake it, in person I am fully in control, on text I fuck out every time. You’re right, getting a drink would have been more logical, since she was already rewarding me for being drunk and unoriginal. I don’t want to try run the text game shit, just too many opportunities for me to trip over myself. The real problem here isn’t text game though or… Read more »
Hank is trying to get his value from the validation of others instead of recognizing his inherent value already just by being a man.
A lot of it is things that are super obvious or easy to you, aren’t for me. So I am having to build up to realize that I can actually do these things. There may be dweebs and dweebettes getting laid, but sex and relationships have always felt like something that I could never have. So it takes situations like this past FR where I had those three girls I could have poached and getting those huge reactions from the lesbians so I can convince myself I can actually do any of this stuff. It might in fact be easy… Read more »
Black Pill
I’ve still got that till slip somewhere. Is this situation beyond rescuing?
depends…
When I am with anything HB6 or lower, I just chat to them a bit, tell them I want to bang and they go along with it or don’t, and I send them home the next morning.
If you can treat a 10 like this ^^^ Yes. If not… no.
Thing is you want validation from the hot girls, not sex… so you aren’t focusing on sex with them.
Can you lose the validation seeking? Can you treat a 10 like a 6?
I’d like to see a few of you go more direct and take more chances, if only for the next 20 approaches. None of this ‘mystery method’, ‘hiding your intentions playing it cool and aloof’ game. Tell her she’s hot when you open, pass her shit tests, and then escalate. If she shoots you down, try it on the next girl. Not that that can’t work for some guys, but the people who I know who get laid all tend to be very much forward and clear in their intent.
@sentient yeah I can when I am gaming them, which is how I build attraction. I’m going to have to just train myself to go in for the close like they are a 6. So what’s your tip for bringing this back to life? Looks pretty hard to salvage from where I stand. She’s given a clear IOD by not replying, I’ve said I don’t like texting. I feel really fucking stupid, messing up like this isn’t doing my inner game much good, in hindsight it’s so obvious how I basically tooled myself. Ironically later that night, outside a club,… Read more »
@phil
The goal of Indirect Mystery method is to get girls chase you. Cause that’s the guys they want to fuck. Not the guys spam approaching giving free validation left and right. That’s bad game. Its not about hiding intentions either. You show intent only after she’s qualified herself to you, not before.
…. Never directly tell any girl that she is hot. Ever.
Did yareally not run fairly direct game and wasn’t shy about the comliments – even more ot less straight away? eg: “YOU. Who ARE you? (breaking rapport (accusing) tone, as if she’s not supposed to be there doing whatever she’s doing)” “Oh, uhh, I’m Sally?” “Well Sally, I saw you from across the room and had to come say hello. I think we’re going to have to have a million babies together.” “omg lol umm no thanks lol” “Alright, then we’ll start with coffee instead.” or “Hey, how do I get to Place?” “oh, umm I think it’s 2 blocks… Read more »
@blacker pill
I remember Heartiste had a pic of a bloody vag on one post to remind dudes that the 10s get gross bloddy vags just like the 6s do. They even take shits just like the 6s do. lol!
phil is talking about good looking naturals–not average-looking men with solid game @mackay YaReally just went for the shit tests ASAP, but he had a lot of social proof established at his regular hangouts. Nothing wrong with Direct Game and YaReally certainly preferred that. Direct Game is quicker, but Indirect Game probably has more total impact. Other girls see a girl chasing you, so preselection hits and girls are sexually competitive. YaReally had very strong nonverbal communication, so his intent was clear…girls want to be desired even more than they want attention and YaReally communicated that desire, but he was… Read more »
Mackay That Ya example was from an article on street/daygame. Not beating around the bush/letting the girl know right away why your there (“i was sitting over there and i thought you were cute, so i thought I’d come say hello :)”). During the day they’re bitch shield is down because they don’t expect anyone to hit on them. You get points just for approaching. Whereas in nightgame they’re shields are up because they expect to be approached/told they’re hot/cute (“your cute can i buy you a drink”). So when you approach them here with a neg/tease, they are more… Read more »
Blacker Pill It’s not about what you said… Texting not texting etc. She doesn’t give a fuck whether you text or not. I’d wait a week and then call her and have clear plans to meet, have a coffee and start over in person. I’d also be sure if I went back to that place she works to be rolling in eith an even bigger party and more girls and wait for her to open you… And just reset with ” hey it’s been such a busy week…” I suspect you are a good looking guy and enjoy having the… Read more »
Thanks,guys. @J – I never thought about the day/night thing. Although even in some of his nightgame ‘FR’s (they’re not actually FR’s…more just examples but you know what I mean) it seemed like yareally was pretty damn direct. From reading between the lines, it seems like even if he isn’t verbally showing it, his intent is crystal clear from the get go, even before the girl has shown even a glimmer of interest, whereas the mystery crowd wait until she’s clearly attracted and qualifiying herself before they do the same – but yarely said that game has moved on and… Read more »
@Blacker Pill >>I really don’t do text game well at all, and I can’t fake it, in person I am fully in control, on text I fuck out every time. If you want to meet girls and get them out especially those under 30, you MUST have good text game. A few years back my text game sucked, now it’s strong. Here’s an exchange where I text a girl I’d gamed nearly a year ago. I’m going to her city for business so I text: Me: Hey crazy girl, I’m in (your town) this week any cool salsa happening? Her:… Read more »
@wala
You put her mind off balance by reframing and you demonstrated dominance…did you see that?
@mackay, check out the three Honest Signalz videos on Direct vs. Indirect on the bottom of this YaReally page I created. I think these three vids do the best job of explaining the differences and “why” each works best for each situation. https://newlyaloof.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/why-yareally-need-to-learn-game/
Good stuff Wala. Mackay That’s the problem everyone has with MM… They never get to A2 and instead skip it it and tey A3, comfort… Because they say hey “she’s still here”… Or they would rather get blown out right away being very direct and the girl walks off fast… And on to the next one and they think “yeah! I am opening like a boss!” Don’t kid yourself though… Proper MM is very tight… It takes some work but the purpose was not to just bang a girl but have her fall for you, and hot hot girls at… Read more »
@walawala fair enough, although this was tricky because I was getting 1 word + emoji responses, which I interpreted as reduced interest, maybe shit test, but hard to reply to if you have no text game.
So how do I re-open this girl? If someone can give me a golden recovery line from the muddled lead up to ‘I don’t text, lets just go do x’ and no reply I’ll give it a shot and post the outcome here.
Golden recovery line?
“Fuck u cunt! I play hockey”
@Sentient @blacker pill
Buahahaha
YES! Do it! Lol Sentient got my attention, it works! (why? what’s the WHY behind it?)
Why don’t you tell us how you’d play it?
Killer reopening text:
“Hey trouble maker done make me regret swiping right…”
Even if you met her in real life it never fails to spark a reaction…
Plough ahead
***Don’t make me regret swiping right…
@ mersonia
The warrior vid you posted was legit. It should be standard procedure that vids like that automatically accompany all RSD videos that are posted here.
@mersonia You leave set…. go to bathroom. Friendly girl (the most attractive one you said.) as you call her follows you basically…… Why did she follow you ….isolating herself from the group ………near the bathroom. Girl near bathroom calls out to Hank the social god of the area. Basically throwing that ass at you…. you ignore her……( bathroom pull / car pull /escalate ( do something ) ) Not quite so extreme. I was at the door to go into the building, not the door to the actual bathroom. Friendly girl was still with all the other girls in their… Read more »
@mackay
Ya prefered indirect:
“This is why I prefer indirect over direct game. I like the frame of the girl chasing me, especially in 2016 where as you can see a hot girl has TONS of orbiters all chasing her…why not stand out from the pack? It’s slower, but there’s something about that hot girl desiring you shit that hits primal instincts and feels good”
But like he says in the second link below, “its about your subcomms, not what you say/do”:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/7/#comment-rationalmale-164392
http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/4/#comment-rationalmale-151139
@mersonia @hank
Yes but… lol
‘Fuck u cunt! I play hockey!’ it is.
I don’t think she’ll reply, but if she does I’ll post the screencap here.
Heh. Blacker that is a joke from an old Heartiste post… Lol.
@Hank: “— She didn’t walk over to me.”
http://68.media.tumblr.com/ef1adb47c730f983415a391f5fe2b691/tumblr_n1jwsk1hO71sgl0ajo1_500.gif
Or maybe even:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J_qaEakp8Y
Let us stipulate that you are trying harder than Mersonia is giving you credit for. You’re still not trying very hard and your head is still in a shitty “I dindu nuffin'” excuses state.
Snap out of it.
lol just clarifying is all. Not saying any of the points mersonia made don’t apply, only that his version of events isn’t what actually happened. That’s all.
@irl ‘forget about walking my dog. he died.’
then if I got an ‘aww why?’ or something
‘from disappointment’
then take it from there. But this girl likely has another 50 guys texting her and has already forgotten who I am.
@blacker pill
Yeah she won’t read it the same way. Via text it’ll look butt hurt. It’s not a tight text game, rather something you’d do to talk about with your buddies.
@irl I told you I suck at text. My buddies and I don’t chat over text except to handle logistics and share the occasional meme.
@blacker pill
My previous comment was about the “cunt” message.
Why would you talk about the previous thread? You can start fresh, doesn’t even have to make logical sense and link to your previous interactions. Just like Walawala’s example.
More examples:
https://krauserpua.com/2016/08/25/how-to-ping-a-lead/
But it’s all gimmicks, canned responses, training wheels… fine to start with but you should work on the mindset.
So again, what would a successful busy man with a roster of HB10s think and do?
@hank
So what is your “yes and” response to mersonia?
@blacker
@irl I told you I suck at text. My buddies and I don’t chat over text except to handle logistics and share the occasional meme.
That works. Do that.
“Busters at 8 & don’t be late”
FR went to a local bar/restaurant last night with the sole intentions of some dinner and furthering progress by pushing my envelope… didn’t know exactly what that would be, but I’d at least get to know the staff and perhaps a local or two…. trying to lay the groundwork for preselection, networking, etc.; it’s kind of a western themed place that also has a great deal of biker business… a good blue collar vibe where the staff aren’t purty, but they’re real and I can bullshit with them just fine; it’s literally at the crossroads and there’s not much else… Read more »
@IRL exactly what my assessment of the FR was — poaching girls and/or running off with chicks is way easier than I thought, I already about did it several times without even intending to, and I got way way more than enough iois from all these chicks. So next time I need to just go ahead and run off with one of these girls whenever I get some even halfway decent interest. Even if there is a situation where I don’t want to take that particular girl, say she’s a date or gf of a friend, I can **still** use… Read more »
@hank & Blax “There may be dweebs and dweebettes getting laid, but sex and relationships have always felt like something that I could never have” Yeah, this is a horrible mindset that I developed through the years (actively trying to shed it though). I can not really protest since I bought into the idea that sex would “just happen” someday, without doing much towards it. However recently I have started to question how many dudes like me you find out there… When I go out I stay long enough at bars to see… very few intersexual interactions going on. Good-looking… Read more »
@zipper
“the guy knows I was just sitting where he is and is actually cool and asks me if he should go now”
“nah bro you can stay but personally this one (girl A) loves tatted up bad boys. Now excuse me (take his seat) so as I was saying (turn to girl B)…(you are .0001%cooler/dominant than the guy despite the fact he’s bigger than you. you’re the leader. slightly amoged the guy and continue talking to your actual target (going after what you want)
j – I took his sincere asking if he should go as deference and thus established my dominance; he was also in no way aggressive or assholey; but, he was talking to B and and I wasn’t so can’t argue with that lol
@zipper Props for going out…props for approaching…you’re ahead of 99% of men at the bar…you’re getting used to the bar environment again…getting your sea legs under you experiment with different things with several girls Try your line: “I promised myself I”d talk to at least one girl tonight and you’re it”…which says you’re a sniper with a single target and check responses Try something opposite, too: “I promised myself I’d stay home tonight but I kept getting these psychic vibes from girls wanting me to go out.” Do this with several girls each and see which line tends to light… Read more »
OT but watched “Eyes Wide Shut” the other night. I liked this dudes game attempting to seduce Tom Cruise’s wife.
https://youtu.be/aMHQwCbT3Z8
“You know why women used to get married, don’t you?
It was the only way they could lose their virginity’s and be free to do what they wanted with other men. The ones they really wanted.”
J
That’s my scene…
He is charming and ruthless…
Okay gentlemen. Update on the text reply. It got stuck in one checkmark limbo. My ass got blocked without ever telling her she’s a cunt and I play hockey.
Blacker Pill
Good lesson. Embrace it and move on.
Dominant posture, laser, bold gesture, pass shit test with ease, kino and “Did you ever read the latin poet Arvid… On the art of love?”
Now that is how you open…
Fuck that “uh your hot” or “how’s your night going guys”
J you should post the full clip. It is out there. I may have posted it here pages ago…
https://youtu.be/wPCYEQ9aLUo
Heh as it happened, Ovid really was a notorious libertine who shocked the conservative Roman culture, and was exiled as a result and died miserable in exile, although he did produce some great poetry, just as the guy in the clip says..
(Or as Sentient would say – example of DPA from the first century AD..)
The original PUA
https://gainweightjournal.com/the-original-pua-learn-to-pick-up-chicks-the-way-the-ancient-romans-did/
I have a tattoo quote from him “Exitus Acta Probat” (the end justifies the means)
“But I don’t want to bang her. You would call her a whale.”
oscar, that is buffering; break this into two problems, one is getting laid at all, and then getting laid w/ the girls you want
you’ve combined them into something bigger than if you tackled them separately; fuck the fattie, then fuck her again just to be sure…. get that problem solved and behind you; you won’t care or remember anyway and sure as fuck nobody else will either
then you might find the ‘fucking the hotties’ problem…. less of a problem
That lesbian girl I banged in my last successful field report was a bit of a whale to be honest! haha. But it was actually hella fun and easily the best sex i’ve ever had (not that I have a great deal of experience to compare against!)
Hoping to get another FR up for you guys soon. Still toying with experimenting with both direct and indirect to see if I can spot patterns in terms of what works out best for me. Catching up on here on some of the posts regarding that debate now actually
@zipper
@scars
Well, maybe there is a bit of buffering, but I hit on her on purpose to try some text game and not really wanting to screw. Will think it over considering what scars pointed out hehe.
Some interesting observations. Ignore spelling and punctuation btw. Newly culum in particular take note. And HABD question on the FI at the bottom. So out in one of my fav cities, hit a few happy hour places a little late. Not much going on. So decide to get dinner at this place I really love. At this point I’ve openwd maybe two women… Just casual stuff. As I eat I ponder the night ahead and game thoughts intrude where to go what to say blah blah… I finish up and ground myself.. R E L A X as Aaron Rodgers… Read more »
Oh… Also pays to open the hottest girls you see. Always open.
@Sentient: that last bit is typically how I feel when I have some very limited success. I’m fully convinced that the ladies are evolved/designed to get those feelings from men. You are just more resistant than I am.
I imagine your Russian was just better at girl game than most of the others you have encountered on your travels.
Note the bit where she told you to go on the outside half of the sidewalk as a good example.
@Sentient
“oh look your hotel” as we are out front… Shit. She remembered the name. I say “yeah but it is too early, lets go next door for another drink” she says she is going to head home”
ASD triggered/Shit test. Does your hotel have a bar? Could have said “yeah we’re just getting a drink here. Don’t get any ideas little girl. I see the way your looking at me” get a drink then seed the pull to come upstairs to see the view of the city.
Hell you could have offered to walk her home. Your meeting a couple of people in her direction anyway. Then continue chatting/flirting. Mention having to take a piss, then change the topic. Then once in front of her place “ok I’m off to see my friends, but let me use your bathroom real quick i can’t hold it” then escalate. “But your friends” “yeah they know I’m always late ;)”
Thanks J
This place the bar was closed, but next door was open which is where I was going to nip in to cool Asd.
But her place was like 20 blocks away… And she had a roomate. So left it.
Needed more sexualizing for sure.
IAS
So what happened with email girl?
@mackay “so I then don’t tell her I want her, and then the interaction ends and sometimes I think ”shit, she maybe never knew I liked her! Maybe if she’d have at least known, it could have went anotherway!” I don’t think you have the basics of man to woman down. Even if you go up to a chick and talk about something that doesn’t show intent, your subcommunications have to do it. By subcommunications pua mean: (1) eye contact and closing distance, (2)breaking rapport tonality, and speaking clearly, (3)physicality(even in daygame you can make your handshake man to woman:… Read more »
@Sentient, great FR. Added it to your page.
Heartiste had a post on girls rejecting the kiss attempt recently and I left the following response:
“What? You have some food stuck on your lip and I was hungry. Come on, cook me some real food upstairs. You can cook, can’t you?”
I think the first part of my line could be used as a default go to. What do you think?