For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@Hank, they’ve not really noticed it, but nobody ever cold approaches or attempts to initiate conversation with strangers, so they wouldn’t notice! haha. I often feel like i’m the only person in my town who makes a few cold approaches on a night out (with the exception of dancefloor approaches) It’s all social circle game and tinder here
@stuff
Not to jump to conclusions, the first thing I learned doing door to door sales was how to handle rejection.
Fuckin’ A, you’re onto something! I went door to door as a kid hawking cookies, greeting cards, tomatoes, newspaper subscriptions, etc.
Then, as an adult, I peddled window washing service and AD&D insurance door to door. No wonder I’m ZFG about rejection.
Maybe that’s the way to learn to handle rejection. Door to door sales game.
Scars i’d be better of approaching with a fairly nonchalent, almost uninterested vibe to avoid scaring the cat – ”Hey girls, how’s it going?” whilst almost looking through them as if temporarily distracted and being aloof! It kind of completely goes against most of the theory I read nowadays where the idea is to ‘engage them!’, ‘snap them out of their thoughts!!’, ‘make an impact!!” ”show your intent!!’ etc and so I’d run the risk of being a boring, interview mode guy (even though Julien uses interview questions almost exclusively, his tonailty etc is what DHV’s him which i’d no… Read more »
Scars
Or what might James Marshall do????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Co9K7NuC7E
[note this is NYC not Budapest]
Re NYC –
4th and 13th… A few blocks from Ground Zero
https://www.google.com/maps/search/modeling+agencies/@40.7400956,-73.9955168,16z/data=!4m8!2m7!3m6!1smodeling+agencies!2sPeters+Field+Condominium,+115+4th+Ave,+New+York,+NY+10003!3s0x89c25999397ab511:0xe6491a3c71fb1cca!4m2!1d-73.9897661!2d40.7328931
12 major modeling agencies between 14th and 22nd… Union Square Park and Madison Park…
What to do what to do? Take note of the instadate opportunities… Coffee? Right there James. Drink? Across the street… Bookstore? Ditto… Half dozen restaurants/food…
Hotel???? Yup right there too…
Hang out in front of Think coffee… nurse a cup… and hit on the hotties coming back from Crunch on the corner…
Clubs?
see where James drops the ball [hazard of filming]…
@ Sentient Ah, memories. When in NYC the numbers of great looking chicks would almost become overwhelming at times, lol. Many days I’d plop down on a bench in Union Square, grab a dirty water dog and some juice, and just watch and holla. I never realized there were so many modelling agencies in the vicinity though. Quick observation from 2 hours ago. Went to a bank and had to wait a few minutes until they opened, so I started watching a Joe Rogan video to kill the time. Cutish chick, maybe mid 20s walks by and tries to open… Read more »
Solid right there Blax…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H5F5MbnXJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDCmNFD18nQ
“Exit Visas are Immanent”
@blax “Me: nah, see now I might need therapy. But if you want to make it up to me, it is my cheat day and I’ve been waiting to cheat all week. I’m willing to cheat with you. Her: what? Wait… What? Me: its just a thought. If you won’t cheat with me I’ll just do it by myself. Her: by yourself? You mean jerk off? Me: what!!??!! What are you even talking about? I’m talking about carbs. I can have carbs today. My diet cheat day. I was seeing if you were interested in some pastry. Maybe with coffee.… Read more »
@Blaximus, consider your few lines of dialog with the bank girl STOLT!
Outstanding!
@Blax Excellent job of throwing a girl mentally/emotionally off balance…tingles follow every time. I’ll break it down according to my Sexual Macrodynamics theory. YaReally style spergy breakdown. You are grappling with the girl mentally and emotionally. She loses her balance. Doesn’t know what the game is and is getting thrown around all over the place. Props. 1. breadcrumb to make her think you’re gay…it’s a ruse 2. She assumes you’re gay and says so. Mentally for her, sex is off the table and you’re not an option…her guard comes down 3. You accuse the girl of being homophobic. Takedown. 4.… Read more »
@Blax, behold Blaximus Game: https://newlyaloof.wordpress.com/2017/09/08/blaximus-game/ I know you have more of these in the past, so just give me a pointer to them and I’ll add them to the compilation.
@ASD, good breakdown.
@newly
thanks, buddy
I left off that girls hit you with two shit tests–it seems to be hardwired–when they’re thinking about fucking you. I also forgot to mention that Blax passed the shit tests or she wouldn’t have gone to the bakery.
so the ex finally moved out last week and the moment I’ve been dreading for a while has come… my son is over at her place to spend her share of time with him for a few days the rattle and hum of his presence leaves a big hole when gone real hard not to hate that bitch right now for the disloyalty, betrayal and ingratitude along with my son taking a serious hit, not just me but it’s all on me, the choices I made, deceiving myself, wanting to believe an ideal that can never be, interpreting facts to… Read more »
Be strong Doc. Your son is not blind, they get it.
You are free to be your true self. seize the moment. Be his exemplar.
Sentient +1
I will come out the other end re-made, at some point, but it seems so far off sometimes; especially when I have to reconcile his absence with the pain; it’s by far the worst part of it all
……..
We’ve all been there about something Doc. Be easy my man
@zipper
and for now I’m in a dark place and it’s as quiet and lifeless as a morgue here
been there, done that, it sucks…gotta distract yourself…that’s what worked for me…do something new
It’s interesting… my situation. Wife and four daughters and one son (second to youngest) and despite everything… the W is always looking to put the son into a negative position. I’ve had to counsel him on feminine behavior… which he totally gets… but the attempted mind games are surreal… The best way to combat cat logic to a dog is with dog logic… Watch what they say and what they do… This is a reliable measure for a dog. “ahhh haaaa” moments… Eureka moments? If you can point them out. Very interesting that the amplitude of “attacks” has increased in… Read more »
@Sentient My take: Your wife is frustrated by your dominance in your relationship. (…and not that there is anything wrong with that…) Your wife is playing out a sisterhood game of the Feminine Imperative. 1. All of the other lacrosse moms are totally dominating their husbands in the the real high school world of parenting. And they are all talking about it. And it is totally indoctrinated via Television and Main Stream Media. Every one out there–every mom–has a right to be domineering, masculine and in charge. Your wife was told that and she feels inadequate in that regard when… Read more »
Somebody should write a book about Positive Masculinity and Red Pill Parenting boys.
All of the other lacrosse moms are totally dominating their husbands in the the real high school world of parenting. And they are all talking about it. And it is totally indoctrinated via Television and Main Stream Media. Every one out there–every mom–has a right to be domineering, masculine and in charge. Your wife was told that and she feels inadequate in that regard
On the other hand, it is said in the manosphere that women only attempt to be dominant when the man fails to do so. Which is accurate? Mrs. Gamer doesn’t worry about being dominant.
@Sentient
My brother used to tease my mom whenever she was being a pain to him and that worked well for him…he was her favorite son. It’s game all the way down.
That calls for speculating/speculation. (form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence). Which is what we are doing here. Every family is nuanced. My take in no way is critical of Sentient’s role. And it is pretty clear from my reading of Rollo’s book (which someone should have written. Wait. He did.) is that the deck is stacked. And it is no big deal that the deck is stacked for the self actualized male. But males don’t actually get self actualized in this crazy world until like they get to be like 27 years old. (At least… Read more »
Just for the record: I was one of four boys (the second). Each two years apart. My mom was very nice but reserved emotionally. She gave me space as wide as Hurricane Irma growing up. I enjoyed every minute of that. She never helicoptered and never was inappropriate in taking her emotions out on me. And later in my mid twenties, she went to bat for me as I went to a good college and helped me pay for my medical school. My dad was a good father too. I just had to get over that one time when he… Read more »
@Blax: ace game right there, thanks for the FR. @anon: I stand by what I wrote. To me it looks beneath Blax to AMOG the RSD crew saying they have bad game. Blax clearly has game and stands on his own merits, as exemplified by his recent FR. He has no need to artificially lower others. That wasn’t necessarily what he was doing (apparently he was cautioning newbies), but as mersonia correctly and recently told hank, when you do certain things, regardless of your intention, they come across in a very definite way to external observers. Would look equally silly… Read more »
@Sentient: a theory would be that your wife subconsciously feels a need to put your son through trial by fire to improve his game… Giving him experience in handling shit tests. It may look cruel but momma birds push their chicks out of the tree so they learn to fly, right? Your son should be fine. With several hot sisters he will be very used to female beauty and he will have plenty of examples of “look at what they do regardless of what they say” and so on. You will certainly help with game as you know what is… Read more »
@Sentient
In her youth she follows her father and elder brother; when married, she follows her husband; when her husband is dead, she follows her son
@Mersonia ” she follows her son” Not necessarily in this day and age. She will follow her son, if she feels she needs her son. In four daughters, Senti’s W has got her sisterhood. In the West, the daughters can either earn for themselves or divorce clean their husbands and help their moms with that money. Prior to industrial revolution, daughters meant less for mom’s survival. It would be better for Senti to pack his son to a military school( but donot let him enlist) unless he can change perception of all 5 felines of his family towards him. His… Read more »
I have seen grown women turn to their 8 year old son for guidance when they loose their husband/ father.
Most women seem to have pretty shitty dynamics toward their children
LOL, 8 year old sons are capable of guidance provided they don’t get domesticated and are accorded the respect a man deserves. Something in the genes.
It would be tragedy is same is expected of a 6 year old.
@ IAS
…. I’d gladly put my notch count up against Tyler any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.
Not amoging, just saving. Game recognize Game, and RSD looks totally unfamiliar.
Lol.
Sjf
“Your wife is frustrated by your dominance in your relationship. ”
It’s that she knows i am an indomitable asshole and so she tries to domesticate him… But now he is almost 6 foot and ain’t having it.
Rest easy he knows all about girls from being surrounded… And that they will cook and clean and fetch for him.
@ias @blax
If I may be so bold, IMO, the whole RSD/blax situation is simply old guy syndrome, where older guys just can’t understand the new ways and so say it wrong and terrible and their way is the only real true way.
Its why all of the OMG’s got so offended by the marriage debate a year ago…how DARE you question how we’ve done things lol.
No hate, I just see it come through a lot in how the OMGs talk…the undercurrent is always “shut up you stupid younggun and follow our orders unquestioningly” lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRPGNuDunfc
Lol Hank…. Step back from the keyboard, go outside. Talk to girls…
@hank
I don’t think your gonna get blax or other OMGs to understand our POV (“youngguns”). I feel its just a waste of time back and forth debating. If you resonate with RSD and are getting consistent results from it (like i do) then just do you, man.
Nah, it’s got nothing at all to do with ” age ” specifically hank. Unless you count experience the same as ” old “. Ya and scray used to constantly use that same old trope about Teh old guys telling young guys to shut up, but I’ve never seen it happen. It was simply projection borne of frustration. I don’t ever tell anyone younger than me to shut up because I’m ‘ older ‘. I might tell a young cat to shut up if he’s talking about something he has zero experience with…. Like unmarried guys going on and on… Read more »
@Blaximus “And for the record, don’t confuse my distaste for some of the ” new ways ” as a lack of understanding. I don’t live in a cave. I understand fully. That’s how I form my opinion in the first place.” Perhaps Hank would have an argument if he was getting laid like tile yet. An old comment: https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/18/are-you-experienced/comment-page-5/#comment-164345 And a new cite from Ian Ironwood. The last chapter of his book of some of his curated essays called Playground Rules: How men and Women Socially Organize differently. In the last chapter he describes “Your Wife and Your Masculinity”. When… Read more »
@j
I don’t think your gonna get blax or other OMGs to understand our POV (“youngguns”).
Yeah, we’ve never been young and said that the older generation doesn’t understand us. Good thing that the young guys have so much experience–much more than men like me or Blax or SJF.
@Blax Not amoging, just saving. Game recognize Game, and RSD looks totally unfamiliar. To me, RSD looks a little like what I do, only with a metrosexual (effeminate) style. If you haven’t read Mystery Method yet, you really should. Not to learn game, but so that you can understand how some of the PUAs think about game and to understand the jargon and concepts. MM is pretty good…of course, I think that my method is better. YaReally used to talk about making girls emotional with push/pull. I think that he was just randomly tripping switches when he did that. I… Read more »
@theasdgamer
Awesome man! I’m gonna head out in a bit and use RSD’s “inferior imitation of game” to try and get me a new <25 yr old 8+ chick tonight cause i don't have to worry about divorce, losing my assets and shit. Wish me luck!
@ASD:
When you push a girl she pushes back. Then you pull and her own pushing force throws her off balance.
Psychological Aikido.
I feel its just a waste of time back and forth debating. If you resonate with RSD and are getting consistent results from it (like i do) then just do you, man. Now yer talking. Great comment. Notwithstanding the fact that OMG’s (and KFG’s) comments/advice and YSG’s advice/comments are often asymmetric. Owing to confidence and competence. I admire @j for having that (confidence and competence) and his comment. I admired YaReally for his competence in PUA and 98% of his Competence that he could have spent most of his comments on. Instead he took a low road of talking down,… Read more »
http://wallstreetplayboys.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Average.jpeg http://wallstreetplayboys.com/spotting-the-mediocre-ten-common-types/ I’m kinda sure Sentient would want to have said this. Me too.: Spotting the Mediocre: Ten Common Types For the past couple of years we’ve had a lot of fun talking about regular people. They are easy to spot as they are entirely driven by emotion, root for the “underdog”, look to gain without adding any value and see everything through two dimensions. Generally speaking, they see the short term gain and lose over the long-term. This results in a constant negative feedback loop where they feel great for short moments in time that are fleeting as the… Read more »
@Blax dude – I don’t want to repeat the post I made a few days ago but I reiterate everything I said there. You’re absolutely entitled to any opinion you want to hold about RSD or PUAs or whatever. But if you merely make assertions without explaining why you think RSD’s Game is subpar or what better game looks like then it’s difficult for us to progress this discussion because we don’t understand you. I have an open mind on this – RSD and PUA in general have helped me tremendously on a personal level, but if they are indeed… Read more »
@ Culum Hey. Idk if it’s possible for me to fully explain how RSD and crew are subpar in great detail, but I expand with a few observations. But it’s kinda like cut week in the NFL. It takes talent to get there, and above average skill to stay there. All the guys on a given team are professional football players, not everyone has developed to an indispensable level. First: RSD teaches pua. What they teach includes many elements of game, but at a quick and easy lower level. It’s not Game per se. I’ve watched some of the old… Read more »
…. Or old.
… I am kinda old though. But I’m good with that.
Maybe I’m like a Yoda. With Jedi game. Lol. Of Tyler jealous I am not.
@ Culum
Shit. I forgot to mention ” finesse ” above. Damnit, it’s involved even explaining this stuff.
I know I left out a few dozen other things.
Jesus Christ fastest pull of my life. Heading back to the club to get another chick
@Blax
lol by definition your “game” is better than the rsd thing. As long as you don’t define/describe it, no one can actually say it ain’t so.
Fuzzy on the details but….. I was at a charity event yesterday. Grape stomping deal at a local winery, proceeds going to the Huston hurricane deal. Food vendors, craft booths, face painting, games, couple of different bands through out the day and evening playing cover tunes with vary degrees of success. I bought a table up on top of this hill where there was maybe 5 other tables and had my bar set up a food booth then proceeded to get sing in public type drunk off muscadine wine. Which takes commitment after a life time of bourbon and moonshine… Read more »
Congrats j!
last night, after watching some stuff by that evolutionDaily dude, I decided to try more direct game for the night too experiment. I actually found it more fun. Something about laying your cards on the table seems to actually TAKE AWAY some of the pressure for some reason. strange. I’ve almost always stuck with indirect game. No real luck unfortunately, but here’s what happened: At the bar waiting to get a beer – Make eye contact with the bar girl and am just about to get served. Some girl next to me asks me if i’ve been served yet, and… Read more »
@Ton Great FR. Open-air events can be great. Also, went out yesterday with some soldiers and I can tell being in the military is a net positive since it happens to be a not-so-common profession; it gives you an edge of sorts. Spain does not have the military culture you find in the USA and in certain regions it could be gauche to be too overly proud of it due to the separatist tendencies, but still: something different, sets you apart. @ scars I hear you with the dress thing haha. Recently I am opening a lot of girls with… Read more »
@ anon01
He he, it’s not ‘ my game ‘ I’m talking about, but Game in general.
Field Report Last night at my country bar I went slumming in a bland T instead of my usual dressier black or red plaid buttoned western shirt and brought the frat party. People were awesome. I was awesome. People responded to my over the top shit and were fun. Near closing a HB8 said I had danced with her before and asked me to teach her to dance, so I did–5 or six dances in a row…we went to get water and chatted…she was with her bf…I went for a fb connection to invite her and her bf to a… Read more »
Scars Something about laying your cards on the table seems to actually TAKE AWAY some of the pressure for some reason. Yeah… but you make the girl choose. Or you only get Yes girls… You lower your odds. BUT your ego has tricked you into thinking “hey I did something“… See Apocalypse Open. lol. Direct intent does NOT mean you can avoid game… You still need IOI/IOD feedback loops, compliance hoops, leading, social theory etc. Your just avoiding using an indirect opener. Which is pretty silly when you think about it. see here She smiled, and I entered small talk… Read more »
loved the Ton FR
so many varieties of successful game, it’s great to see that once a few core RP principles are burned in, the rest is just personal style
to all you rabble rousers not following “… the accredited procedure….” lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSl41mW0NK4&t=03m45s
“you do it your way and I do it my way”
FR 2
Rode this morning with a couple of guys. We stopped for breakfast, thought the waitress was cute so I picked on her a bit. Small stuff about some small mistakes she made while working. Teased her about needing a new line of work.
Failed to talk her in to quitting work to ride with me but got her number.
Didn’t know you were in Spain Oscar. Only place in Western Europe I really enjoyed but I know a lot of folks are going through some rough times over there Military plays well in certian places in the usa, not so well in others. Ain’t worth a shit in a military town unless you are something extra like a pilot or SpecOps of some version. The army thing ages well. A young army dude is often just that. An old vet vibe seems to add a certian extra level of righteous old dude street cred with younger girls. Young girls… Read more »
“Can’t much see why a man would put up with any bullshit etc when there ain’t no real shortage of chicks who want to suck your cock.”
+1
FR Big festival downtown. Was crazy how many people were there, I later talked with someone about how many more people there were than usual. If something like that was going on most weekends, this place wouldn’t be half bad. A far cry from the ghost town it is most nights. I wandered around for a bit, saw a few sets to open, but didn’t. Wasn’t warmed up. So I went way down to the end of the town, to the bar I often go to. Was deserted. Just a few guys playing video games. I joined in. Two set… Read more »
An odd data point about birthday party girl…meaning, I’m not sure how to read it. I complimented her for being considerate and discreet and she took it as sarcasm and said she was sorry and I could unfriend her. I replied, laughing, that I wasn’t being sarcastic and that we are good and that I appreciated her prior notification that she was sending me a friend request. She replied, laughing, that I could expect an invitation to the party soon. She’s very clever, a high self-esteem girl, and is an expert on social media. Hard to imagine that she could… Read more »
Scars
Forgot that in addition to Tyler and Todd, Jeffy was also a Project Hollywood influenced guy…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2pK2ziot2w
“you know the structure of a pick up, so your able to methodically move it along”
“cause I’m only thinking about two things… number one is what is the girl emotionally giving me right now… secondly where am I in the interaction itself, and what is the next step to the end goal of obviously sex”
I like Jeffy. I own that that programme/product. His infields are cool.I try to follow his ‘model’ where it’s just open, direct or indirect, have fun, if she is asking lots of questions back and stuff and she’s hooked, you can ramp up the kino and pepper in the ‘statements of intent’ lines where he verbally states his interest in her then pulls.
“An odd data point about birthday party girl…meaning, I’m not sure how to read it. I complimented her for being considerate and discreet and she took it as sarcasm and said she was sorry and I could unfriend her.” You’ve built up a strange fiction around what should be a non-event. A person wanted to friend you on FB so she could include you in a group party invite. Please tell me you didn’t actually use the word “discreet”. That isn’t a compliment, you’re implying she is sneaky for FB “friending” you. There is nothing sneaky, or “discreet” or for… Read more »
@anon Yeah, giving the compliment probably seemed a little weird. The girl told me in advance in person that she was going to send me a friend request for the party. I’ve been careful from whom I accept friend requests from. I’ve been a private person on line. For a while, you had to know one of my friends to even be able to send me a request. First time someone has told me in advance. It seemed considerate. And discreet, for respecting my privacy. Like you say, tho, “discreet” has multiple meanings. But you, like the girl, chose to… Read more »
@Dr
so the ex finally moved out last week and the moment I’ve been dreading for a while has come… my son is over at her place to spend her share of time with him for a few days
Feels empty for a while but you’ll get over it. You’re way ahead of the game at this point. Took me a while to find RP and TRM. Easy coasting for you now
Shit, there is a lull in a Red Pill topic. And then the fucking sniping begins intra-tribally.
Yeah this has been getting worse lately. C’mon Rollo, keep the children busy!
@anon
The psychopath runs a fb account with a girl’s name and pic. (I don’t know the name or pic.) He is stealthy. Trespasses. Stalks. If girls routinely accept friend requests from other girls, then his stalking acct. might be invited.
“Easy coasting for you now” – you gotta be fucking kidding me
“I’ve been a private person on line. For a while, you had to know one of my friends to even be able to send me a request. First time someone has told me in advance.” She told you in advance because she needed your last name to make the friend request. Unless you mentioned that you are typically hesitant to accept friend requests, there is no reason why should would know that or even suspect it. Most people aren’t. And the fact you use your real full name would seem to imply you aren’t either (unless you were candid when… Read more »
@ Dr.Z It’s an process. Initially it will be day by day. Sometimes it’s minute by minute or hour by hour. In those times solace will elude. This is natural for a normal male. There won’t be any comfort for a while, so the best course of action will be to realize that the feelings will lessen over time and that its a waiting game of sorts. It’s like having major surgery, and having pain and a level of suffering in the aftermath, and then going through physical therapy. PT is hard. PT takes time and perseverance. PT takes will.… Read more »
No I’m not kidding you – and maybe it won’t be so easy. At least you won’t be wandering about in a BP daze for a year wondering what happened, like I did.
Maybe I missed some personal detail in your posting history. But you are miles ahead of where I was when she finally moved out and took half the kids
blax & disE – all true, just wouldn’t call coping and coming to terms over my boy’s soiled childhood “easy coasting” when in fact it’s my life’s biggest failure
from the beginning, I’ve specifically tried to make his better than my own childhood from a fatherless broken home; but no, I fucked it up, and he pays for my failure; I would glad make the bargain to absorb all the pain and confusion from his end… it’s not really about me at all
@anon The girl had my last name from the meetup group. I made a mistake and put it on my profile right after I came out of my depression…joining meetup was my first move and I didn’t think about the exposure. The girl could have easily looked up my last name on meetup instead of asking me. But her tactic seems like she wanted to give me a heads up. Lots of old married men are quite private on fb. We get hit up for dates. Especially those like me who go to social events without their wives. We don’t… Read more »
Went to happy hour on Friday with co-worker. Scene was pretty weak girl-wise. Had some mixed drinks and feeling good though. Coworker leaves early, so I hang out at that bar and another bar next door that I’ve got pretty locked down. Flirt with bartender girls, shoot the shit with regulars. Decide to call it an early night, so I get a coffee at the coffee shop. On the way to my car, I say F this and decide to hit up an [[insert word “ethnic” here for anonymity]] bar that has good food. I see a bartender girl I’ve… Read more »
@newly
“Before we get there, I put my arm around her waist and said, “I’m going to kiss you when we reach your hotel door.” (RSD Todd?)
She says, “Sorry, I don’t kiss married men.”
I say, “You can hardly call it that, but okay. I had a good time anyhow.” She says she did too and that was it”
Wtf man? Shit test. Also for future reference never use that line ever again lol. Subtle. Never explicit. She already knows whats up
All u had to do was make her feel like it just happened. Use your shit excuse. “Listen I’m sorry but i can’t hold this shit any longer lol. Can i just come up to use your bathroom real quick?” Bam. Then escalate in her room
“She says, “Sorry, I don’t kiss married men.”” “How can I resist when you insist?” (flipping the script and making her think–uncertainty is good) Before we get there, I put my arm around her waist and said, “I’m going to kiss you when we reach your hotel door.” (RSD Todd?) RSD Todd didn’t give off married signals. Before we get there, I put my arm around her waist and said, “I’m not going to kiss you when we reach your hotel door. I’ll need to use the bathroom, tho.” (flipping the script and if you say it’s not going to… Read more »
@dr zipper real hard not to hate that bitch right now for the disloyalty, betrayal and ingratitude along with my son taking a serious hit, not just me let that RP slide ALLLLLL the way down… girls are girls… and then recognize how much better off your son is/will be for having a father with RP knowledge/experiences… to help him start his life… and what a GREAT opportunity for him to figure out ‘girls’ (and life) with you… but it’s all on me, the choices I made, deceiving myself, wanting to believe an ideal that can never be, interpreting facts… Read more »
@newlyaloof She’s kind of a grumpy looking girl, and she’s not much to look at though. Anyway, she comes over and says, “So, how’s the wife doing?” … Either way, I respond, “I think you’ve got me mixed up with someone else,” and smile. A minute later, the [[that ethnic]] girl says, “So you’re not married then.“ I answer, “It’s complicated.” She pushes and I explain that technically I am but we’ve been like roommates for the last 10 years. I switch topics to travel. this is where you lost it… first, you denied you were married (and i can… Read more »
@HABD, How about this: “How’s your wife doing?” Me: “I don’t know. She’s at her boyfriend’s house.” This is a perfect example of how a person in my situation needs to be ready for this question. Not thinking, I said what I said because I thought she literally had me confused with another person. I see now how this could be considered me lying, even though I immediately came out with the “it’s complicated” and told the 7 I was married a few moments later and acted as if it was no big deal. I already had the “she has… Read more »
@newly
“How’s your wife doing?”
Me: “I don’t know. She’s at her boyfriend’s house.”
So, she’s at her bf’s house cheating on you because she’s an alpha widow…
“Last I saw, she was in the kitchen cooking my favorite dish. Barefoot and pregnant. A wonderful wife. I always give her a good time. Love her to death.”
message: [yeah, I’m the jerk who goes out while his preggy wife stays home cooking for him…she knows that she has to share and it’s Ok]
@ASD,
or,
Bartender: “How’s your wife doing?”
Me: “Fine… [turning to 7] So, anyway …”
habd – already been doing the RP journey for the last few years (wow, slow learner) and been doing my best to be a working model for my boy, in fact I’ve mentioned before he’s the main reason for my formally entering into this RP endeavor… I had to become the man I’d want him to be; when we’re together I make sure it’s RP all the way and we make a game of pointing out the BP bullshit, even if I don’t label it as such; I prefer to teach it as conceptual rather than a rote list of… Read more »
@Blax With regard to your comments about game and RSD, I’m still not sure where you’re coming from? I understand that you think game is more than just pick up, so by game, do you mean the game of being a successful man? I realise you found the fellow in the pick up video annoying, but do you not think that Cajun chap was pretty skilled (I accept that if this is the only aspect of game he has mastered then he’ll be spoiled for short term pickups but not much else)? And I can see that you found his… Read more »
@Scars, It’s good to see someone else on here from the UK to compare notes with, as I still sometimes think “perhaps women in the UK are even worse”, although in reality that’s more than likely a buffer. I’m not doing any night game like yourself, building my business and my hobbies are taking precedence, so I’m just trying to take opportunities with women as I see them (or royally fucking up and missing a sitting duck would be more accurate) often in settings not associated with socialising. @Everyone I don’t know if anyone remembers the story I told of… Read more »
@ Chunky ° sigh° Personally I didn’t ring Cajun ” skilled “, but that’s kinda beside the point. My main issue is with calling what they do/teach ” Game “. If they call it Game, then I judge what they do and say by what I know game to be. They’ve set up a bunch of different rules, building off of what Mystery did a decade or so before them, and insist on calling it Game. If they’d just stay in their lane and call it pua or pickup, I’d have nothing negative to say. Telling people you’ve broken game… Read more »
@blax
wait.
so are you saying that RSDs interactions with girls are bad, or that they merely have a really narrow view of game that doesn’t take in to account all the other areas in life where game applies (family, children, work, negotiation, etc etc)
because those are two very different things.
I’m in a spergy mode so… @IAS @Culum @ChunkyMonkey @hank Game is one of those things we all agree on… until we disagree. Lol… like with Alpha, Beta, DPA, Natural… The infield videos we often link… it’s not necessarily seamless acts (in a broad everyday life context). Sure, they might be fast and efficient in what they’ve been crafted for, i.e. seduction. But imagine that apart from looking at A1-S3 (or any slice thereof), you also think about other nuances, all different little blueprints of the actual person. Look at the first video released by RSDMax (or whatever his name… Read more »
Lol… Cajun (and PUA) as a minimum viable product:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FoCbbbcYT8
It’s all an intermediate stage… of validated learning…
It’s all connected…
ACT often to give your brain quick feedback and refine:
How many startups fail, how many survive?
Are you an open-minded risk taker? Are you a successful startup?
Hey HABD is back! Cool! I’m dealing with family shitstorm myself so not been around much and not been going out for a bit (nothing to do with girls – just some close family need serious support with some major struggles). But wanted to say: @dr zipper – sounds awful and I have no particular insight except to say we’re all here to listen virtually and help in any way we can through a screen – this is a great place to just vent even without specific advice. The thing you said about wanting to be the best guy you… Read more »
Heh I just saw IRL’s post. Cosign 100% (channeling my inner Blax there).
Not seen the video, but I’ve read Eric Ries’ book – hadn’t thought of the analogy to PUA, but it works very well…fail early, fail fast, learn from the reference experience..pivoting, all of it.
Jesus…lol. @ hank I’m saying the same thing ya and I used to go back and forth about the RSD guys. They seem just adequate. That’s from my perspective. There’s nothing special or unique about what they teach or what their infield stuff shows. Ya said that it wasn’t aimed at/for me. Fine. I agree. But I will say again, what they do isn’t ” Game ” that’s my problem with those average or below average knuckleheads. Bottom line – chicks will fuck you if you 1) talk to enough of them. 2) don’t be silly and childish. 3) let… Read more »
LOL it’s old school game vs new school use of the term but I get where Blax is coming from
At one point in my life the only men with game kept bitches on the track earning with nothing but mental games.
@newlyaloof “But, this was the first time that with such logistics, I said F it and was going to bang another woman. That’s a big milestone for me.” I hear you man. Welcome to the other side. Been there, done that. It’s a massive change when you finally decide what you want and stop sabotaging yourself with mixed signals (you should see now how women perceived you before this milestone). One FI’s fingers less on your shoulder… I wouldn’t say anything about wife’s boyfriend. What does it communicate? That you’re some polyamorous couple, usually a shaved/violet ugo feminist and a… Read more »
Gotta disagree about the wife. Never admit cheating unless you’re caught red-handed. Always deny. Don’t bruise your wife’s ego. Hell hath no fury….