Sitting here like uninvited company
Wallowing in my own obscenities
I share a cigarette with negativity
Sitting here like wet ashes with X’s in my eyes
And drawing flies
Bathed in perspiration drowned my enemies
Used my inspiration for a guillotine
I fire a loaded mental cannon to the page
Leaning on the pedestal that holds my self denial
Firing the pistol that shoots my holy pride
Sitting here like wet ashes with X’s in my eyes
And drawing flies
And I said “Hey what you yellin’ about
Conditions, permission, mirrored self-affliction?”
“Hey what you yellin’ about
Sadists’ co-addiction, perfect analogies?”
“Hey what you yellin’ about
Conditions, permission, mirrored self-affliction?”
Leaning on the pedestal that holds my self denial
Firing the pistol that shoots my holy pride
Sitting here like wet ashes with X’s in my eyes
And drawing flies
If you’d like to contact me about a consult, or just want to say ‘hi':
rollotomassi@charter.net
November 27th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Hi Rollo,
I’ve been following your blog and the Chateau. Now, given the current state of society and social “progress”, I definitely see the beta male population (the ones who get up and slave away at ACME corp) that is needed to build and maintain civilization and all its trappings giving up (until they discover game… and then they’ll still probably don’t care). The old way of doing things was that you are the man, you get a job, support your family and the woman stays at home. The man provides and the woman gives birth to his children — usually — and offers sex. This has been the old way of doing things. But it’s changed.
Now, are you, personally, taking precautionary measures for the future? Do you predict a breakdown in law and order? Would you move to other locations? If so, what are the general qualities of a new settlement would you look for?
This is a growing prepper movement in this country. I’m not 100% convinced that they know what they’re talking about (at least some seem more sane than others).
I’d really love your opinion on this matter.
Also, if I missed your e-mail somewhere on this blog, could you please point it out to me?
Thanks,
–not_PC
December 4th, 2012 at 7:55 am
I can’t post comments to “the men in the garage” all of a sudden. Is there a daily limit or something?
December 5th, 2012 at 10:10 am
I have a suggestion about article I would like to read.
Title: Pain.
…
You cover different aspects of battlefield, I use hints and they work for me, you were great help.
Yet …, small detail.
Somewhere deep inside there is dark room with pain which bubbles up from time to time.
I know awakening is like dentist visit but i think it might be quite good subject for analyse.
Don’t you think so ?
December 6th, 2012 at 8:22 am
Rollo,
I’ve been a reading your blog since it’s inception. I love how eloquently everything is written and presented; therefore, I’d like your written opinion on this following Youtube video, if possible. It’s from ESPN First Take that was shown yesterday and Stephen A Smith was discussing Red Pill rhetoric (Being Anti-Oprah, lol) on a national platform. It was based off Chad Johnson and his wife Evelyn Lozada.
And I had this similar discussion with friends who are also fans of this show and they couldn’t understand Stephen A’s point; even though, he illustrated and demonstrated his points so well. I tried to explain his position and why he went off but I got berated so I let it go. Is there anywhere to simplify his point of view to where my guy friends would somewhat understand?
Btw, these are blue pill guys trying to figure why women are the way they are. Basically trying to find the red pill but not knowing to look for it if that makes any sense.
December 6th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Start at 3:20 ^^^^^
December 6th, 2012 at 8:43 am
The end of his diatribe
December 12th, 2012 at 1:40 am
rm.caleban@antichef.com
December 19th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
I’d love to hear some opinions and thoughts with regard to myself and how I should consider the upcoming years of my life, unplugging at 21. My e-mail’s kurtcop at gmail.com. I’ve read a lot of material but much is colored by the viewpoint of a man coming into this perspective late in his life. You, however, seem to have the most rational viewpoint. Pun intended.
January 6th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Rooooooooollllllllllllloooooooooo,
I know you have an interest in getting ideas out there, so I thought you might like to know Nick Savoy will be on the Today show February 5th. He’s promoting a book he’s written for women called Its Your Move and there’s a good chapter in it on evo psych that is palatable for the average plug-in. I’m sure you’ll appreciate the irony that the only way to break into the feminine matrix is to write a book for them explaining how to deal with its consequences. I don’t know what he plans to say on the program, but I am pretty durn excited about it. Catch it if you can!
January 6th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
“a good read. have you come across anything that says women on birth control pills pick different men (more aggressive, alpha males) than women not taking hormonal contraceptives (who go for men who would be good fathers)?”
Its the other way around actually. Women on BC pills don’t ovulate, so they don’t have a period in the month when they desire more dominance.
January 10th, 2013 at 10:38 pm
Hey Rollo.. what do you think about this chick drama? Link is NSFW..
http://www.nekkidcuties.com/2012/03/15/educated-bjs-mar-15-2012/#comment-7201
January 13th, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Your part of “The League”
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-league-of-unemployable-bloggers.html
January 14th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Rollo,
I love the blog. I’m interested in a consult.
hvwydn at gmail dot com
February 16th, 2013 at 11:34 am
Great blog. i am late learning about the manosphere.
Can I solicit an opinion on this? You may have already written on the top and can post a link…http://smoothreentry.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/how-many-to-date-at-once/
February 26th, 2013 at 1:22 am
Hey Rollo. This happened three days ago; A group of people came to my store and I had to give them service. In that group there was a former coworker who I tried to take home once. She was with her guy friends and a girl friend which Ive seen several times with her parents. Now for the fun part, this girl is a lesbian, Ive seen her come in with different other masculine women every now and then. And they show affection etc. This time, She showed IoIs, body language, eye contact, playing with her hair while I took her order, giggly; she used to be cold and serious while placing the order. These lesbians, they are not with a man but the woman they are with are practically a behavioral copy of a man to certain extent. Except for the ones that got traumatized after being raped, could you say that lesbian women are that way because they havent interacted with a masculine guy? Or is it just some type of shit test?
February 26th, 2013 at 5:54 am
@Orphan, the proper PC term is called Sexual Fluidity (a.k.a. making your necessity a virtue)
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/sexual-fluidity/
February 26th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
I understood sexual fluidity but this kid is around 19-21. I bet all her straight guy friends are waiting for a change to smash that. There is no need to choose from your own gender when the opposite is available; unless she is trying to stretch her prospects line up.
February 27th, 2013 at 11:05 pm
This stuff has been extraordinarily helpful. Your BPD girl sounds astoundingly similar to mine. If you have a minute I’d like to ask you a bit more about how you went back to developing healthy relationships after you split with her.
March 1st, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Rollo, I’m interested in a p rivate consult. Look forward to hearing from you. Trailblazerdc at gmail dot com
March 3rd, 2013 at 8:37 am
Hi Rollo, need to get in touch with you ASAP about something. Please email me – 3rdmilleniummen@gmail.com
March 5th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Rollo, I’m interested in a personal consultation over the phone. Please contact me at trailblazerDC at gmail dot com
March 8th, 2013 at 2:49 pm
Rollo,
The last time that WordPress did an update the blogs lost their side bar widget of latest commenters. It’s happened here, as well, and as many people seem to utilize it I thought you would like to know.
March 20th, 2013 at 8:50 am
Hi Rollo,
I really like your blog and i’m interested to advertise on it..if interested send me a email.
March 22nd, 2013 at 12:46 pm
Hi Rollo
I have a rather time-sensitive question if you’re so inclined.
In short, how do I handle a woman who’s not meeting my relationship standards? In other words, we’re having sex and spending time together, but she doesn’t want take it much farther than that, and maintains a longing for some guy overseas. She views me as a boytoy, and has said as much.
If I don’t want to fulfill that role, what can I do? Is telling her to fuck off my only option? Do I ignore her texts? Or is there a way to bend her to my will of having a more serious relationship?
If it matters we’re both 30’s, living in a major US city, she’s probably a 9 and I’m probably an 8. We both get tons of attention from the opposite sex, (which doesn’t exactly help matters.)
rad1oh3d at gmail dot com
March 22nd, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Hi Rollo
I have a rather time-sensitive question if you’re so inclined.
In short, how do I handle a woman who’s not meeting my relationship standards? In other words, we’re having sex and spending time together, but she doesn’t want take it much farther than that, and maintains a longing for some guy overseas. She views me as a boytoy, and has said as much.
If I don’t want to fulfill that role, what can I do? Is telling her to fuck off my only option? Do I ignore her texts? Or is there a way to bend her to my will of having a more serious relationship?
If it matters we’re both 30’s, living in a major US city, she’s probably a 9 and I’m probably an 8. We both get tons of attention from the opposite sex, (which doesn’t exactly help matters.)
rad1oh3d at gmail dot com
(sorry if a duplicate post)
April 6th, 2013 at 4:20 am
Hey Rollo,
A buddy of mine told me to take a look at your blog and I’ve gotta say, there’s quite a bit here. Congratulations on all of the success. If possible, could you recommend one or two articles/ blog posts which concisely summarize your theory?
Thanks,
Micahel
April 6th, 2013 at 11:46 am
@Michael, this post is a good summation of my overall philosophies:
https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/year-one/
It contains links to all of the primary ideas I promote.
April 9th, 2013 at 9:17 am
To Rollo
I have a lot of appreciation for this blog and have been reading it for a while. I would like to ask or consult you about two things. I’ve been snooping round the blog and still haven’t found anything concrete to do with flaking, and the reasons behind it as well as the different forms of it. I’ve had some bizarre experiences with it, so I was wondering if you could forward me something about that? I also have something else I would like to consult you about but I would prefer to do so via email if that’s alright: thetrueandonly@outlook.com
Please keep up these insightful posts, I honestly think you’re helping more people than you realize.
Many thanks.
Cervantesscthree
April 11th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
Rollo,
Props on the great blog, its been incredibly valuable to me, as have your Iron Rules from Sosuave. Would really like to have a consult with you and also you a couple questions career questions.
Email address: mxpx34dd@hotmail.com
Thx bro!
April 12th, 2013 at 10:43 am
I got into it with a female friend the other day about gas lighting and I had a realisation about how it conforms to the fem-centric ideal…
The logic goes like this;
1 – A women doesn’t like something you do…
2 – You tell her to stop being paranoid/crazy/stupid…
3 – She thinks you are deliberately gaslighting her because she feels you were doing something to upset her…
(and here’s the key)
4 – If you don’t agree with her, then you must be gaslighting her because she is made to doubt the validity of what she saw…
5 – But by doing this, it could be said that she is gaslighting you because you now doubt the validity of what you did…
You see how that big circle jerk/circular logic works?
Either way, if you don’t agree with what a women feels, you are being emotionally abusive to her
It’s pretty slick…
I did a search on your site for the term but couldn’t find it. It would make an interesting blog entry
Regards
Dan G
April 12th, 2013 at 10:44 am
Oh yeah, my email is buster2209@gmx.com
April 17th, 2013 at 4:02 am
Hya doin Rollo
Can you send me an email address where I can submit a confidential field report?? … much appreciated.. thanx
April 29th, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Hey. I can’t believe the manosphere hasn’t yet discovered the French philosopher Jean Baurdillard. He wrote articles and books in the 80s that would make any manosphere post or article from this year seem shallow and banal. His theories go beyond anything I have read on the subject. Would be incredible to see your take on him, Rollo. Don’t be put off by Baudrillard being called a leftist thinker, he is not, but neither is he rightwing. He has largely been ignored and ridiculed by academia for his writings on feminism, and what makes him so interesting is that you need to have some experience living to be able to understand anything he writes. Manginas and white knights I assume are just unable to “get” what he means. His whole spiel is why reality itself is doomed, feminism being a symptom of this, and that you should enjoy the ride.
May 4th, 2013 at 10:09 pm
Wow. Stumbled here a month or so ago, a friend on FB shared a post on chivalry. I think I’ve devoured the whole manosphere since then. So much of this clicked in place with the observations of my 48 years of living. Working on married game, I have a five year old daughter that deserves two happy parents. Baby steps, for both of us, I was raised straight up hippy feminist beta by an unhaaaapy divorced mom who shamed my dad in my presence and surrounded me with hippy effetes and gay men and replacement daddies along the way. Just a few weeks of working this tho, I can already see little changes. This helped me face the fact that Led Zepplin so bluntly stated: She’s just a woman. Feeling unfairly put upon that I have to set the tone, the agenda, EVERY DAY, doesn’t matter. Won’t help, it is what it is. Thank you for this blog, and the links you have provided, I hope it’s not too late for me.
On a more pedestrian note, anyone watching the misandric understory in the Office recently? When Jim was just struggling to get his new biz started and had to sink $10k without telling her to do it, all she could do was whine and complain. Her her her, whine whine whine. Now that he’s on the verge of big success and overhears him turning it down “for her” she is now showing remorse and she’ll want him to go for it, “because she wants him to do it for him”. How convenient. Watching after starting to ingest the red pill and with a new understanding of our feminist wrecked society makes the show almost not even funny anymore. Thank goodness for Kevin!
May 10th, 2013 at 3:26 pm
Rollo, I recently read Swoon: Great Seducers and Why Women Love Them by Betsy Prioleau. Detailed studies of popular ladies’ men. And much of it seems at odds with Game. For example, these men might be more likely to run after a girl and say “I had to meet you!” and wear their desire on their sleeves rather than be aloof. That’s just one example. You might find it an interesting read. And I would be very interested in your thoughts on it.
May 12th, 2013 at 7:16 am
I like “Rational Male” better than “The Rational Male”. Rational Male implies a grander encompassing state, philosophy, way of thinking, etc.. The Rational Male sounds smaller, as though it’s referring to a specific person.
May 23rd, 2013 at 3:45 am
Hi Rollo,
I would appreciate your thoughts on some aspects of male psychology. Could you send me an email? Thank you.
June 2nd, 2013 at 3:24 pm
Rollo,
Thanks for what you put into this. Would it be possible to contact you via email?
July 7th, 2013 at 11:17 am
Amazing blog and insight. Is there a chance I can buy a 30 minute phone call of you?
July 14th, 2013 at 10:58 am
You don’t have to buy anything. PM me on the sosuave forum with your number and I’ll call you.
July 15th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Solid. You are a good alpha. I’ve just created an account with the username Guruapp and I’ll message you now
July 15th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
By the way the reply has come under a different account but thats still me
July 16th, 2013 at 1:03 pm
Hello Rollo.
I have important things to tell you. Thanks for being, man. Thank you.
Hit me at tylertavlemma {at} lavabit {dot} com
Thanks for being, Rollo.
July 18th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
Rollo,
I have more questions about the Mid-Life Crisis that I wanted to ask. My email is included here, so please send me a personal message.
July 24th, 2013 at 11:44 am
I can’t manage to message you on the forum. Can I get you my number some other way and arrange a call through that?
July 24th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
post me your email address, I’ll reply
July 24th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
Klassicjazz@gmail.com
July 28th, 2013 at 12:28 pm
My email: diederikstap@gmail.com
July 30th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Rollo,
I knew about your blog from Krauser’s interview on London Real but only about 5 days before I read it. Needless to say, along with Krauser’s and Heartiste’s Blog, various other forums and a few books, it have given quite an enlightened perspective.
I have been studying game for about one and a half years now, but financial and residency conditions have inhibited me to implement it.
If you do entertain such requests, I’d like to mail you my past, how The Game changed my mindset, a lose plan to cultivate my identity over the next decade (I am 25 now) and eventual intimacy goal for your review and comments.
It’ll be a great help.
My email ID is saagar.sachdev@gmail.com
July 31st, 2013 at 10:04 am
Hey Rollo,
I’ve been reading your writings for a while now, and it’s been a huge help.
One suggestion; can you make your search box more visible. I often find myself going through old articles but accidentally type into the subscription box.
Thanks to you and others, I’m paying it forward.
Regards,
redpilluser
August 5th, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Major props for the usage of Soundgarden here, brother.
August 14th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
Dear Rollo,
I’ve been reading your articles for quite some time now, and have never been disappointed. I truly do appreciate the contributions you’ve made to the manosphere.
I started – as early as I can remember – at the No Ma’am blog… which I believe has now become Fedrz’s Blog (or something like that). I don’t even know what initially led me there – perhaps a Wiki-walk.
It doesn’t really matter. What I wanted to say is that I am a MGHOW, and I have a blog of my own at emperorlubu.com – in which I’ve mentioned your work (with links to them) more than once.
I was hoping that you’d stop by sometime this week and take a look at my latest post on Western marriage. If you like it, I’d be honored to be added to your already impressive Blogroll.
Regardless of whether or not you do end up adding me, I’d like to just once hear your opinion on my writing… from a respected fellow MGHOW.
Cool? Thanks.
– Emperor Lu Bu
http://www.emperorlubu.com
August 26th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Rollo, I don’t know any other way to contact you so I’m posting here. I am going to be self-publishing a red pill marriage guide later this week and I was hoping you would give me permission to include your now-ubiquitous SMV chart in my chapter about the sexual marketplace. The chart is fully referenced to your site and I also included your website in the list of resources at the back of the book.
Thanks.
August 26th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
I wouldn’t hold your breath, Don.
Rollo doesn’t seem to check his “About” comments as frequently as he used to.
I haven’t even heard back from him, and it’s been nearly two WEEKS since I wrote the comment prior to yours.
August 26th, 2013 at 6:54 pm
Sorry guys, busy with the book. Yes Don, feel free to use the chart.
@Emperor, you can now email me at rollotomassi@charter.net or you can always twitter me.
August 28th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
Rollo:
I’m writing here,a short reply,just to thank you.
I started reading about the Red Pill related stuff here,in your blog.After that,well,i started to browse the sosuave forum,return of kings,and so on.
And man…did it change my life.I am a 20 years old man,who is still changing from a pathetic AFC to an awoken man.It is hard,but i am already seeing the rewards,the most important being able to have some respect for me,have a sense of worth…and yes,getting laid.
You have made me a better man,and for that there is not enough space in this box to write a sincere “thank you” that accurately depicts how grateful i am about people like you who try to help so many clueless men as i was into becoming better men.I hope that someday i will be able to help others to unplug from the Matrix too.
A sincere thanks from Uruguay.You and the manosphere are getting international.
Jose
August 28th, 2013 at 11:57 pm
Rollo i really need some advice and some help putting a current situation into perspective.
My mom got divorced for the 3rd time earlier this year. Her whole family turned their back on her and sided with her ex, which left her with basically no support system. I’m 25, she’s 48. I live with my younger brother and a mutual friend in a 4 bed. We all begrudgingly agreed to house her for a few months, but that was 8 months ago.
My problem is basically that she can’t understand our contribution and our sacrifices for her. We’ve done everything we can for her and its basically taken for granted. she constantly pulls the “I’m your mother I deserve to be treated with respect” card when she’s losing an argument. She even called me bipolar to win an argument a few months back. most of our arguments center around me not wanting to be mommy’s little helper. I’ve basically told her my help is conditional and that unconditional love has a limit. She finds this deeply offensive but I told her I need to protect myself emotionally and maintain distance. She tries to paint the picture of me as a bad and unattentive son despite the fact I’m her only blood relative willing to house her. I have another brother who won’t talk to her and her parents and siblings are too busy hangin with their adopted son in law.
Basically, I understand this is a low point for her, but the message society gives young men is to be useful or perish. this is the message I want to get through to her, but she’s too busy with her status of professional victim to appreciate my sacrifice.
It’s a vicious cycle. Maybe she needs a favor. My response is a hearty belly laugh and a “fuck you remember when you called me bipolar 3 months ago and didn’t apologize?” she doesn’t see her own hand in this dynamic. Documenting fights and calling cops and crying in court worked on her dad and husbands, but it has no effect on my brother or I. she tries to make the rules and intimidate us but we just say get the fuck out an leave it at that.
She’s moving out next month and I told her I don’t want to reinitiate a relationship until I know she’s in therapy. Idk if she’s bpd bipolar mentally Ill or what. There is mental illness, alcoholism, drug addiction and suicide on both sides of my family so nothing would surprise me.
Basically I’m not getting thru. I feel like she’d rather lose the last of her family than admit she’s wrong. my roommate that’s not my brother has a similar situation. He’s never met his grandma because his dad cut off contact when he was 14 and never looked back. is this what it takes?
I’m not getting thru to her and don’t know what to do. She cramps my style but still lives in my house, so it could be worse. I feel like the problem is more existential. I’ve read roissy for 4 years and your blog since day one but nothing could have prepared me for this. It’s starting to feel like a final unplugging of sorts. I feel a little twinge of guilt (it’s my mom after all) but that feeling is dying too. it’s helped my game immeasurably — when girls see how ruthlessly I treat my mom they are on their best behavior and the bjs are like water — but not without considerable emotional turmoil.
Advice, context, roadmap, please? I really need your help this is not a question for roissy.
Much love you are helping more men than you’ll ever know never stop.
(Written on iPod usually my aingrish syntax and grammar are much better)
September 17th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
Hi Rollo,
It would be much appreciated if you could hit me up with an email. I would like to ask your advice regarding a particular issue.
turtle_x99@ hotmail.com
September 22nd, 2013 at 3:55 pm
http://emperorlubu.com/2013/09/22/in-defense-of-the-mghow-singularity/
I wanted you to hear this from me first, Rollo.
Understand that I have nothing but respect for your personal fight. Western marriage is precarious even in the BEST of situations (which I’ll go ahead and assume you have), so I can sympathize with your plight.
I still think you’re one of the great voices out there in the manosphere.
I hope you can appreciate that.
– Emperor Lu Bu
September 23rd, 2013 at 8:56 am
Hi Rollo. I’ve got a situation that could benefit from your outstanding rational insight. I guarantee you’ll find it interesting and fodder for new posts–red pill reality requires men to have good strategies in this category, I haven’t seen it covered well anywhere, and you are the right person to address it. I’d love a consult in whatever form it can work for you, e.g., phone, email, whatever. I’d be happy to compensate you for your time.
October 7th, 2013 at 7:14 am
Hi Rollo,
Im relatively new to this blog, Ive just finished reading ‘Best of Year 1′ … eye opening to say the least.
I wanted to bring this article to your attention and to get your take on it. Feminism gone mad or an isolated incident?
http://shanghaiist.com/2013/10/06/hong_kong_woman_slaps_kneeling_boyfriend_repeatedly_in_street_kowloon_city.php
Keep up the good fight
A
October 14th, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Hey Rollo-
Long time reader, have the book already. I was wondering if you could drop me a line-I have a question/problem that was wanting to send to you via email. Thanks,
Mike
October 19th, 2013 at 11:07 am
Hey Rollo.. Would you please let me know about consults?
October 28th, 2013 at 10:12 pm
Hey,
I would really like a consult. stevernator@gmail.com Thanks
October 29th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Hey Rollo,
Just finished reading The Rational Male. Found it fascinating, though still lost on a lot of references made. For instance, is there a good, concise definition of Red Pill vs. Blue Pill. I get a sense of it, but haven’t found the spot where it is actually defined.
I also had some epiphanies. Wife and I have always had a good sex life, but suddenly this summer she just got wet all the time. Wasn’t till I read the book and hit one spot (don’t remember exactly where mentioned), that I realized she turned on that way after I started working out this spring, adding weights to my swimming regimen and lost 10 pounds.
Everyone always envied me for being thin, so it was never that I was out of shape, I was just never “in” shape. She says she has no idea why she is so wet these days, but now I know. I like how I look, feel good, it shows, and she responds.
Obviously I have a lot more to learn, and discuss.
And curiosity, what are these consults you and others keep talking about?
November 21st, 2013 at 10:55 am
I found some interesting numbers on marriage ages that may have some correlation to your SMV chart.
Median marriage ages
In 1890 the median age for a man to marry was 26. But what was the median age that most men started working in 1890?
Most men didn’t even graduate high school in 1890 (few careers required a high school education). I would ballpark the median age most men then started working to be around 16. Which means by 26, most men had been working at least a decade–establishing their career and building up their income and status.
You could argue that the typical man in 1890 reached his SMV peak at 26.
The median age for women to marry in 1890 was 22. So in 1890 you have both men and women marrying at their SMV peak.
After WWII, the percentage of males that graduated from high school as well as the number that went on to college went way up. Consequently, the age that men started their careers went from 16 to 18 (or 23 in the case of the college grad).
While women continued marrying at their SMV peak (early 20’s) men started marrying younger (median age of 23). Long before they had time to establish themselves in life and long before their SMV peak.
Is it any wonder the women’s anti-marriage, “fish & bicycle” movement started in the 1950’s? Maybe the root problem was you had women at their SMV peak marrying men who were far from their SMV peak.
Your chart puts a man’s SMV peak in the 35 age range. That’s about 10 years after the typical man finishes college; that’s 10 years he has been working on his career and establishing himself in life.
Just as it took 10 years after leaving school and entering the workforce for a man in 1890 to reach his SMV peak, it takes modern men 10 years to reach their SMV peak.
Because the modern industrial age requires so much more preparation & education for a man to succeed, it has pushed back the age men start their careers, and thus pushed by the age they reach they start their careers by about 9 years (16 to 25) , and thus has pushed back the age men reach their SMV peak by about 9 years (26 to 35). Your chart is supported by the 1890 numbers, if you compensate for age a typical man finished his education and entered the workforce.
A man’s SMV peak is less about age and more how he has established himself in life. For the typical man (in 1890 or today) that seems to take about a decade of work.
January 13th, 2014 at 9:00 pm
I was intrigued by your blog post on feminity and it’s facade of mystique and comments that related it to Greene’s 48 Laws of Power (apparent weakness, morality, and irrationality as a guise to the cold and calculating ways of traditional womenfolk). I know this all too well from the way the matriarchs in my family manipulate the men dogs. Interesting and thoughtful look at how genders really interact. I’ll be back for more!
January 22nd, 2014 at 12:58 am
Rollo, I have e-mailed you tonight hoping for a consult. I know you are busy – even one reply would be greatly appreciated.
January 22nd, 2014 at 1:00 am
I’ll check you in the morning Alpha
February 6th, 2014 at 8:32 am
Rollo,
I’ve been reading a lot of your posts in the last few weeks… I am really enjoying them and most of the ideas you’ve presented are enlightening.
I am a little confused how I should go about figuring out if a particular woman would be LTR/marriage material. Since women love opportunistically I’m not too sure what to do with this information… I am aware of it and won’t fall prey to someone trying to take advantage of me. Should I also love opportunistically? I feel like even if I tried it wouldn’t be satisfying…
I guess I’m not entirely sure what I’m asking just looking for some wisdom
(Background info: I’m 20 and starting my second year at university so not looking to settle down any time soon… gonna be spinning plates for a while)
p.s. Thank you for sharing your wisdom on here, I appreciate you spending many hours typing up your posts and responses… I thoroughly enjoy reading it all
from your mate in Australia
February 18th, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Rollo,
You are a genius
March 6th, 2014 at 4:24 am
My smoking hot ex told me about your blog. Actually, he claimed credit for some of your best work. He’s one of my favorite Alphas. Always fun and living by the letter of the alpha law. It’s cute.
I love your concepts and love reading your blog. Keep up the great work!
– Kristen
March 6th, 2014 at 12:10 pm
Tell him he’s welcome.
April 9th, 2014 at 11:46 pm
Rollo, Thanks for the blog. You really should check out a paper written by Janet Yellen’s (Federal Reserve Chairswoman who replaced Ben Bernanke) Nobel Prize winning husband. It is on the inevitable collapse of markets that “lemons” are allowed to exist due to asymmetric information between sellers and buyers. It is an absolute gem by one of the most famous economists alive today.
May 7th, 2014 at 10:21 am
Rollo, I will be reading your latest series with interest. Meanwhile, have a look at this. All the best.
June 8th, 2014 at 6:12 am
There was a time I would have fallen for the sentiments in this article… Thanks to your blog, I can see it for what it is… cheers Rollo.
http://theweek.com/article/index/99512/he-said-he-was-leaving-she-ignored-him#axzz342ZnnaYx
Amit
July 7th, 2014 at 1:49 am
Forest: I want to first say thank you to Rollo for such a wonderful blog. Though I had scanned articles here and there for a few months, I took the time to systematically read Year 1 of The Rational Male last night (along with most of the comments) – literally for more than eight hours straight, I couldn’t sleep, it was so insightful and engaging – and then finished with Year 2 during the day today after a nap.
Of the “Trinity” of the manosphere, I find Rollo to be the most clear, systematic, and philosophical of the three Ros: Roissy, Roosh, and Rollo. Here is my opinion of the style and talents of each:
Roissy has a very good grasp of the element of cultural decline, and feminism as a nation-destroying and culture-destroying ideology, but is also well read, very witty, and quite frankly absolutely hilarious at times. His insights are all over the place, but he does manage to draw the reader in with his engaging style and is always fun to read in his articles and comments. His blog also has a frat boy “just do it” atmosphere that most men, myself included, really need after swallowing the Red Pill – action is the most important step in self-improvement, and only then can a fulfilling relationship on your terms follow. His historical sense and racial awareness may alienate some, and sometimes there are asides, but it is tough to argue that he is not very insightful and always readable and fun.
Roosh seamlessly intermingles PUA with cultural analysis and despair regarding feminism, and is a man of both reflection and action. He has the most international experience of the three, has very tight Game, and is a great introductory author to read, because really, for most men, it is important to intersperse a “how to” guide and to let them know that they are not alone when treated in a shitty way by superficial women. Return of Kings does this quite well also. A weakness is that sometimes he is so jaded he ignores the religious and ethical building blocks of cultures, which often are a foundation for the kind of mating environment that he seeks.
Rollo, of the three, is the most philosophical, to the point that I would argue that he is a philosopher. And I don’t use this term lightly, because he has thought through and pondered very perplexing issues in a systematic and purely rational way, devoid of appeals to authority, and supplemented by rather than reasoned from experience. The work of Rollo is a prerequisite to fully understand the work of either Roosh or Roissy, and really he does a wonderful service for millions of men around the world. He supplements his philosophical arguments with insights from psychology, biology, and experience, but these are never primary. Really, these insights are worth hundreds if not thousands of dollars and quite literally save lives, so it is really wonderful and generous that he has this blog as a public service.
A weakness of Rollo’s methodology in my view is that feminism is in my opinion simply a popular variant of Cultural Marxism, which in turn depends on economic Marxism, that in turn depends on the defeat of industry and native capital by the hands of International Capital and political conspiracy. The purism of Rollo makes his analysis culture-independent and organic, but I am personally sympathetic to the view of feminism as simply one form of resource war within society (e.g., Kevin Macdonald, Culture of Critique, etc.). Nevertheless, those larger issues are beyond anyone’s control, and the best focus is on one’s personal life and relationships, which is what Rollo does, to his credit.
Trees:
Rollo is very insightful in most if not all of his posts, save for the ones about the semantics of the feminine imperative, which I found confusing. Given my situation, ones that touched me were The Desire Dynamic, Letting Go of Invisible Friends, Hypergamy Doesn’t Care, and Relational Equity.
The essence of my personal situation was that an LDR became a real relationship, and my viewpoint was that the relational equity I built by remaining “faithful” would translate into genuine desire (but really it was only an attempt at negotiated desire). Also, by the end, I had to break off the engagement as broken promise after broken promise and manipulation I finally became disillusioned, and far from having built Relational Equity, I felt that I was merely a tool for her Hypergamy, which really did not give a shit about me. Was that completely the case? Probably not, but she made requests which essentially denied my goals (no children for the first few years of marriage) and at this point I had to break it off to prevent a lifetime of increasing abuse. So, while I don’t consider myself a complete AFC, I think that this girl in particular was able to take advantage of my reciprocity, psychological weaknesses, and perhaps ONEitis to essentially treat me as a tool in her hypergamy maximization quest.
To be frank, what drove me to the Red Pill was not so much the ending of the engagement, but getting stood up by a 40 year old. This was a blow to my ego (especially after I ended an engagement), as my former fiance was both 26 and very beautiful, and I wondered how a 40 year old woman who I had chemistry and was considering seeing just to avoid loneliness could have such insolence. After reading several blogs, I became immersed, but I will always come back to The Rational Male for the framework I need, especially when down, rejected (dating and arousing girls is tough!) but most importantly, when I am in an LTR, so that I don’t lose frame and let her walk all over me as before.
I just wanted to add, my religious views aside, fundamentally, women are toys. When you accept this, and accept (no money, no toys; more money, more toys; a toy has no loyalty other than to its function) much of the other parts of the Red Pill will flow. Yes, women have consciousness and interact with you, but that does not change their purpose – it is to keep us company and ensure that we will not get bored. Game says – get more money, play with more toys – and this is a healthy attitude – for me personally due to beliefs, this would not include going all the way, but teasing, flirting, and treating them like replaceable toys is especially important, even more so in an LTR.
18 And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.” Genesis 2:18
Really, treating a woman as anything other than someone who adjusts to you to help you realize your goals is not only fundamentally anti-God,and anti-nature but ultimately completely counterproductive also.
July 19th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
Superb blog. Thank you so much for the insights. Finding it really helpful.
Would be most grateful for an article specifically about how men of age 40 and above might game women of age 18~23. Talk about some examples and case studies.
For example, online dating is very difficult for men over 39 if they are aiming to meet women of age 18~23, and we’re not into going to clubs anymore either. So, we’re left with daygame, bars that cater to a wider age range, social circle game or putting ourselves in other situations where we might meet very young women without being seen as “creepy.”
And, if money, status and fame are not present, what should we focus on. Working out, dressing better (but not too young), etc. What kind of game would work, etc.
August 14th, 2014 at 11:32 pm
Rollo, can you a post on the recent Christy Mack assault story ? since she does porn, has a high SMV and has what many would say is an Alpha boyfriend; I am interested in any commentary you could provide in terms of hypergamy or Alpha/ Beta, or Dread dynamics. Thanks.
October 10th, 2014 at 6:52 pm
I’m curious about your opinion of this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elloa-atkinson/i-love-my-husband-but-heres-why-i-want-to-cheat_b_5909882.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
November 7th, 2014 at 7:53 am
My eyes did indeed hurt, but they feel much better now. Thanks.
January 30th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
Hi guys,
I found the blog some time ago on Reddit and bookmarked it.
How should I approach the reading? Are there some introductory articles? Or, I’m guessing: start with year one, two and so on.
January 30th, 2015 at 7:03 pm
Start with Best of Year One, it’s at the top of the page
February 16th, 2015 at 8:51 pm
Check out the straight alphaness of an unexpected character. Russell Brand straight up calls out that news woman’s hypergamist nature taking over.
February 24th, 2015 at 10:47 am
Rollo would be curious how race affects everything.
asian men, can scale up in value (career, wealth, prestige) in a still white dominated society which is “beta bux” yet practically alpha fux is a more white American construct. Obviously still applied to other countries but how it manifests is quite different.
And do you find certain advantages (disadvantages) highlighted when a minority makes conscious changes to lifestyle/game:
For instance asian man getting ripped = highly potent way to fuck white women (sometimes more attractive than white)
Black man in high powered law/business position = unique and dominant
Etc
Any thoughts here would be interesting to read. Thanks.
April 4th, 2015 at 2:27 am
Rollo, with your situation so good via your knowledge, its awesome that your have the internet MEDIUM to help guys.
And Christian of you to help
April 4th, 2015 at 10:35 am
I was gonna off myself, and I found your blog, it makes me sad, but everything you’ve written has shown personal anecdotal evidence. I love it, I’m sad to be cleansing myself of my AFC mindset, but it feels so good. The hardest part to accept is that I can never expect love like I think it should be, but this seems to be the biggest thing to remind myself
April 9th, 2015 at 5:20 am
Hi,
I’d be interested in what you think about this post I saw on fb today. Maybe make an article out of it? I noticed that it was usulally the less good looking women walking through the beautiful door and the prettier women walking through the average door.
http://2doors.littlethings.com/dove-choose-beautiful-ad/?utm_content=buffer7ead0&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=sungazing&utm_campaign=PFPost
Thanks,
Alex