For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
@ palmasailor
” Watch this space for a black swan event ”
I look for it daily.
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@Mackay @WIA, do you consider RSD game (take Max or Julien or whatever) to be using mysterymethod as has been claimed here a few times now out of interest? (I’ve seen ”RSD Is Mystery Method!!” written here a few times) _______________________________________ This is a rabbit hole, and now I understand why YaReally wrote and wrote and wrote. The primary differences are in the Attraction Phase So for you lurkers Attraction phase is 1) Approach (A1) 2) Female to Male Interest – do stuff with her, to her, that causes her to be interested in you. And she has to show… Read more »
Great breakdown Archie
Because Julien’s big thing (the most annoying thing to me) is
– a1 approach
– a2 self amusement as value, and her continued presence as an indication of her interest
– a3 ?
A3 – If you watch RSD with the sound off, particularly Tyler and Julien, you will see massive amounts of early, early, strong kino. This is not something they dwell on in their infield breakdowns.
That clip immediately above kino 10 seconds in…
@Sentient Instead of ruthless, I think of it as being generous and charitable. A night with me is a blessing. Like if you were trying to inoculate people in the 3rd world from polio, and they had bad experiences with the WHO organization and were suspicious of health workers – you don’t come at them like adversaries. You also can’t be “Take it or leave it”. Instead, you got to get them to believe in what you’re doing and that it’s a good thing – to such an extent that they leave you convinced and wanting to convince others. I… Read more »
@ Sentient Regarding Kino – that’s classically in C2 – building that physical connection. In the post Classic PUA era, everyone rediscovered that touch can build comfort as well as attraction. And I defer to Ya’s take on “comfort” in that you’re not making her comfortable like a big college sweater and some fluffy slippers – but you’re making her comfortable with your touch, but also by breaking away before it gets weird and possessive. “This guy gets it” – without her having to explain it. A lot of these chicks want “affection” with no strings attached. (the point of… Read more »
“what is your order of conversation” I freestyle. I don’t “plan entire conversations beforehand” as @mackay wrote. I literally go up and Just self amuse Julien style and I don’t know what I’m gonna open with until 2 seconds before approaching girls. Then I riff off the opener and keep going with the role play if I find it funny or if she shit tests me on the opener I’ll self deprecate (“is that your best pickup line?” “damn sorry I left my pickup index cards at home that’s the best I got”) then I’ll change the topic to who… Read more »
Can you post the first few minutes of a few of your approaches in a kind of script form when you get time, @j?
I wanna see if you also break all of the MM rules (such as asking a rapport seeking question after the open etc) like WIA mentioned
like, @scars FR’s READ like an RSD infield to me and i’m confident he’d get a ‘good effort!’ on the RSD forum, although in terms of MM/this blog, he appears to me breaking the rules.
@scars – Did you use BR tonality as per Julien when you asked questions after you open? If so, you didn’t do anything ‘wrong’. You are gaming by the books as per Julien or Max for example. You must have seen enough infields now to know that it’s fine to open in whatever way you want, and then to ask rapport questions. You appear to be a student of RSD, but you are getting feedback from people who are strictly mysterymethod which doesn’t make much sense. They’re 2 completely different camps with different rules/ideas/philosophies. I actually think you’re too in… Read more »
Made an approach on a girl in the bar close to where I live. I open with FTC (an IOD?) and then an opinion opener. She answers but seems a little bit taken aback like she’s surprised some random guy is talking too her. (non touristy part of Scotland. Strangers don’t talk. small town. Even in bars it’s quite unusual to see people cold approach) I tease her about her answer and she smiles. I nearly ask her what she’s up too but have to stop myself as this is a mistake/energy sucking-chode game? (even though RSD do it) Nothing… Read more »
channeling my man Rugby:
J says ””when i see a girl i like my opener is to make a statement that i know isn’t true and they know isn’t true but is funny. (situational opener. Can be about her dress, the way she’s standing, the expression on her face) And when the girl smiles and reacts to that i’ll ask basic questions (what are you doing here? Who are you here with?”’ can you give some statement examples? Also, isn’t that what WIA said was ”’Typical civilian approach. See girl + joke + ask rapport seeking question all drain and suck the value out… Read more »
@mackay J says ””when i see a girl i like my opener is to make a statement that i know isn’t true and they know isn’t true but is funny.” Also, isn’t that what WIA said was ”’Typical civilian approach. See girl + joke + ask rapport seeking question all drain and suck the value out of teh interaction = fizzle out ? No. J is socially engaging in a slightly obnoxious way (which unbalances the girl’s emotions) and is trying to get an emotional reaction from the girl…j isn’t seeking rapport…j doesn’t assume A2/A3 and go immediately for comfort,… Read more »
@mackay It doesn’t fizzle out because then I spike again /\/\/. I just needed to know who I need to befriend to avoid getting cockblocked. Like I don’t ask questions for no reason. (“How do you like your job” = question I don’t give a shit about….maybe save this for comfort stage but at the attraction stage no) so after asking that question (Who are you here with?) I would make a cold read or another assumption tease her, self amuse (chick crack) so maybe I’d look at her friend and go “oh shit that’s the girl that had her… Read more »
“can you give some statement examples?” girl standing looking bored: I know why your standing like that. “why” she looks with curiosity. because thats exactly how i stand when i accidentally shit my pants. hahahaha. girl dressed in normal clothing: oh thanks a lot. “what???” that’s the same exact dress my ex-girlfriend wore when i found out she cheated on me. I had literally just gotten over her. how could you be so thoughtless? “hahahah i’m sorry” don’t worry I forgive you. let’s go back to your place to change your dress. it’s only fair ;)” “hahaha shit i just… Read more »
Archie Instead of ruthless, I think of it as being generous and charitable. A night with me is a blessing. Agree. charming.. win win etc. All good. However RUTHLESS in this context means you are focused on gaming to put P in V. You are not just out horsing around, you are not just opening, you are not just hooking, you are not just… The mindset – ABC. Always Be Closing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrhSLf0I-HM ” I drove an eighty thousand dollar BMW. That’s my name!! And your name is ‘you’re wanting.’ And you can’t play in a man’s game. You can’t close… Read more »
Having a tough time with the approach. I never know what to say to get a conversation going. Especially in crowded or noisy places which is usually the environment I meet girls… (bars,parties,etc.)
Archie Regarding Kino – that’s classically in C2 – building that physical connection. And following the classic Method results in consistency… You have strong A2, you’ve qualified her, passed some compliance tests strong A3… so now when you put your arm around her and lead her to a table there is no “creepy” miscalibration risk… In the post Classic PUA era, everyone rediscovered that touch can build comfort as well as attraction. Yes indeed. The risk is in having the skill to be calibrated. Julien and Tyler have that skill, so you see very finely calibrated early kino and rapid… Read more »
@Scott
You want lines, but what you need is a mindset.
You probably won’t understand that, so here’s some technique.
https://youtu.be/b5mFl7ov5xk?t=50m30s
@ Sentient 1) Keep your eye on the prize for sure. My angle is that the traditional, “P into V” mentality – where a set is only good for warm ups and bangs – is to add a wrinkle to that. So you see a hot chick and her friends. You approach. The approach fizzles out. Or you see that there is some friendship more than lover type relationship The traditional P into V mentality is to exit the set and jump on the next target. If she doesn’t want to fuck you that night, fuck her and fuck her… Read more »
Amazed to see Archie promoting Max based on his response to scars FR!
Mackay J so after asking that question (Who are you here with?) I would make a cold read or another assumption tease her, self amuse (chick crack) so maybe I’d look at her friend and go “oh shit that’s the girl that had her hands all over me last week. Don’t let her see me talking to you” to get her laughing then grab her hand “let’s go over here to get out of her view” now leaning against the bar “so are you Spanish” breaking rapport tonality she says “yes how did you know” I go “habla me en… Read more »
mindset.
Where have I heard this before?
Archie Obviously a guy new to the game needs some of that killer instinct, because he’s afraid to escalate – which is why ABC was vital back in the day. Now though? The game gets more complex. When you see more, you see more complexity and with that comes more opportunity to employ more strategies. To get to that point, you have to Do The Work ™ and start banging girls. Belichick had to win with the Giants to move up to the Pats. That “ruthless efficiency” aka shark in the ocean aka must keep moving to eat – doesn’t… Read more »
@Scott
1. You may want to pick a different name on here if that is your real one.
2. “Hey, *smile* how are you?”
It’s that easy, really. What I find works for me is situational openers like, “I can’t believe how fast this bartender is tonight!” (when they are obviously dragging their feet.)
Anything works, really.
@Sentient
In short – experience matters. Experience smooths the edges, changes the timelines allows for different aspects to emerge and be developed. A natural process if you keep winning.
^^ extremely important. For the guys out there confused about “subcommunications” and “vibe” etcetera, the only way you will understand either concept is through field experience and putting yourself out there A LOT. Get to it.
@catchers
”It’s that easy, really. What I find works for me is situational openers like, “I can’t believe how fast this bartender is tonight!” (when they are obviously dragging their feet.)
Anything works, really”
How do you transition after the opener, typically??
Do you tell a DHV story? Make some sort of cold read / tease up?
I’m obviously assuming that you wouldn’t ask them a question about themselves or whatever (civilian game)
@Mackey: Read more here, man. Dudes have posted various methods dozens of times (WIA’s latest link to Max talking about this very thing).
Having said that, i think this is helpful (since you want STEPS – here are 3, #2 being the most important step “cut the line”)
https://youtu.be/poH4QKM_goM?t=1m21s
Hey. Yes, but Max breaks the rules, for example, he often asks rapport questions after opening with a joke/observation, which is what Scars was told he shouldn’t be doing. Hard to know what’s right and wrong.
Regardless of what you might think, there are no ” rules “. Don’t make the pua in training mistake of trying to strictly abide by ” rules “.
There are guidelines for newbs sorting things out, but you can’t be Rsd whoever, or mystery. You have to be yourself…. Eventually.
@mckay – Well I tend to use RSD max and Julien teachings as opposed to Mystery, so i’m allowed to ask their name and stuff after I open
Newly’s vid is interesting and good.
See Juggler’s method: Questioning is like spending money: You can use your purchasing power but every time you spend cash you weaken your future spending power. It is not that you should never spend money. It is just that you should do so carefully. Same with asking questions no matter how sincere.[…] there’s more to the art of having a meaningful conversation than just asking questions. If I kept peppering a woman with endless questions, the conversation would become incredibly exhausting for both of us, and I would make her feel interrogated. To be honest, I don’t understand this strict… Read more »
@mackay It really depends and hard to be prescriptive. The key, I think, is to take the conversation somewhere and relax. After the night is over I highly recommend being introspective and writing a field report about what you remember from the night then think about what you could do better next time. You’ll be surprised about how much stupid stuff you’ll do in a night that will be so obvious to you as you later write it out. Eventually, with more experience and while constantly refining the approach that best fits your personality, IOI’s (indicators of interest) will become… Read more »
IRL
To be honest, I don’t understand this strict YES or NO, 0% or 100%, black or white, allowed or not allowed. Dog logic…
It’s the fear talking…
I don’t think it’s to do with fear. Just too many chefs confusing the newbies I think when Mckay talks about ‘not allowed’ he’s referring to some of the ‘mistakes’ people make in their FR’s. Like how @scars was told he made the ‘mistake’ of running civilian game because he asked her how her night was going after opening with something that made her laugh, and now I guess he thinks that there is a 100% rule now where you should not ask a girl that questions that so soon after opening? But then, if you are an RSD’er instead… Read more »
Mackay Scars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x48l1O8D_mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKW0Zj_GRSA
TenGame… (relax fanboyz – just kidding, kinda). Bad game gets rejected. Uncalibrated game gets rejected. Bull in a China Shop works… until it doesn’t work.
Part of the process…
What they are saying is NOT an incantation… a spell. structure, frame, where you are in the seduction phases… all come to play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk69Qko6_lc
Mindset too…
^^^ Culum
“most of your lays are going to be in the last two hours of the night, not the first two”
” . . . Max breaks the rules . . .” Rules are for beginners who don’t understand how and why things work. It gets them going and allows them to build experience. Once you have enough experience you don’t follow the “rules,” you simply do what you know works. The ultimate rule is: what works is what works. The ultimate rule of Rules is that it doesn’t work because it’s the rule. It’s the rule because it works. When I first started playing chess I had to be taught “plays,” combinations of moves to win. When I had played… Read more »
Don’t drag me into this you lot!! haha.
Personally, I stick to the Julien/Max way of doing it as opposed to the MM way. I don’t like having rules where I can’t ask her name or whatever, lol
Sounds LIKE @J is more on my wavelength.
I open with whatever, and then ask quetsions but with a breaking rapport tonality
@Newbs, went out to pick up my lunch today. Saw three well-dressed dudes walking ahead of me maybe 20 feet ahead. My initial thought was, “Guys are dressed sharp, probably investment bankers,” but immediately I noticed two of them with their hands in their pockets and walking kind of stiff. Their subcoms made them look like nervous job interviewees.Then I hear the other one start to talk and it’s soft-spoken beta fluff. All three had “the steps” to outwardly be players, but their subcoms were shit. I kept thinking how much of a waste of such good threads it was.… Read more »
Here’s proof that “experiences” will change your subcoms:
http://www.upworthy.com/mesmerizing-photographs-of-soldiers-faces-before-and-after-a-war
The key is – go out and do something. You will not have perfect sets right off the bat and it’s foolish to think you’re going to learn enough online to be perfect out in the field.
The way you get better is by doing. Trial and error.
Nobody ever learned to ride a bike by reading about it:
“I don’t think it’s to do with fear. Just too many chefs confusing the newbies” Nah the root of it is always fear. If guys didn’t fear the reaction they’d get from the female or the chance of losing her ( even though they never really have her) no one would get into pick up in the first place. Overtime you get better and you care less…which makes you outcome dependent and more attractive ,but its the fear that pushes individuals to continue to practice (well the ability to deal with mental pain and persist because you know you’ll suck… Read more »
For Fanboyz still all RSD says this and that… Here are Tyler’s thoughts… from what Mystery taught em… Introduction Mixing and matching V, A, C, Q, S. Some basic often asked questions from the scene are: -should I compliment or not? -should I act sexual or playful? -should I bust on the girl, or try to build rapport? -should I open with rapport first because its more genuine, or use opinion openers? -should I try to seduce her, or entertain the group? -should I engage the whole group, or go straight up to the girl? -is body language and tonality… Read more »
Whether RSD use mysterymethod or not is open to debate I guess, but all I know is that if I do what Julien says to do or what Max says to do, and then post an FR of them interactions, i’ll get told that i’m doing it wrong because i’m not running MM!! HAHA (”what?! You asked her how her night was going after you said ‘hi’!!!??????? Nooooooo) lol Either way, i’m sticking with MM at the moment since I like posting here and this is clearly an MM based forum, really. Seems like scars and j use RSD stuff… Read more »
Mackay
I know is that if I do what Julien says to do or what Max says to do, and then post an FR of them interactions, i’ll get told that i’m doing it wrong because i’m not running MM!!
No, what you will be told is Do you understand WHY that didn’t work and you would if you understood MM… Seek the WHY behind the HOW.
From Jeffy’s Nine Ball (pretty hilarious autobiography read by Jeffy): I received a call from Tyler down in Hollywood the other day. He had a mission for me. Whenever Tyler calls up with a “mission”, I know it’s likely going to entail something unpleasant. “Dude”, he said, “there’s a sea change coming in the pickup world. This shit we’re using the routines and all of this, it’s about to become VERY public. There’s reality TV show offers coming in every day now, a book is being written, it’s gonna blow up man. This stuff is about to become the ‘What’s… Read more »
Anyhow, I know that what’s important aren’t the lines per se, but the TYPES of communication that are involved. Taking things to a flirtatious level, putting sex on the table in a smooth, fun and playful way, etc.
Which itself is a structure, a routine…
Which is why they have Improv classes… to teach structure…
@scars Re ‘plan for the conversation’. It’s NOT a list of conversations and topics strategically laid out. The conversation is only a means to your end goal. Don’t overfocus on the topics. Think in terms of the progression triad: What exactly happens between open and sex is the bit that you can fine tune, but you need a plan in all three dimensions at the same time. In this context, ‘plan for the conversation’ = plan from open to close. It looks like you’ve discovered that this: When I got laid like 2 weeks back I think the order of… Read more »
@Sentient
“Which itself is a structure, a routine…
Which is why they have Improv classes… to teach structure…”
Yes. Nature is not a (total) bitch. It’s not completely random… just unpredictable.
What they meant above was “routines” = “canned material”. Tyler and Jeffy discovered they can trust the process, the structure, the laws of attraction and just improvise the rest. Enter the Natural… a new brand… lol
MM based forum??
Lol.
Powerful article. Especially for the 30+ men here: http://www.girlschase.com/content/girls-only-want-good-looking-guys-or-young-guys “If she rejects a sexually unsuccessful guy, and he believes it’s because women don’t like sex and anyway women only want this thing that he isn’t, well, who can blame her? That’s just reality, right? Women don’t like sex. And they only want super good-looking rich tall young guys. So how could he ever have a shot? But if she rejects a sexually unsuccessful guy and he knows she’s a total sex-crazy pervert who loves to get shagged he’s a lot more likely to flip into a rage. “I’m not good… Read more »
and finally, found this clip on another forum. Its from a old TV show, “the heights”. Does a really nice job contrasting the way the sensitive beta male and the bad boy alpha male go about seducing the girl. Will watch this with my fuckbuddy later:
@IRL November 2, 2017 at 3:01 pm That Jeffy video is good content, but does nothing for newbies. Jeffy is a master at PUA. So he describes discipline by desire and inner intention. Discipline and intent is a fine subject matter. But it is putting the cart before the horse for newbies. (Doing things in the wrong order.) The problem is newbies live in a world of inner desire and inner intention. What they need is outward intention and action. Take Mackay’s statement: <blockquote I Need to work on and memorise more DHV stories and also more IOD’s that I… Read more »
@Phil The queued up Max Clip is specifically about how not to run out of things to say. Max isn’t my RSD favorite by any stretch of the imagination, but his basic verbal formula of how to keep talking is the one that most people use. (unconsciously, often) With Scott- he’s in the place in his game where he feels like he needs to fill the silence with words. He can’t get to the next level of understanding until he conquers what he thinks the problem is. So why not give him the “quick fix” so that he can realize… Read more »
@Mackay
Sounds like you’re getting frustrated. At me even!
What part are you not following?
@All
Can you link me to a chick that is a “10” (whatever you think a 10 is, I’m not here to debate that) WITHOUT make up?
Like she wakes up perfect?
“Can you link me to a chick that is a “10” (whatever you think a 10 is, I’m not here to debate that) WITHOUT make up?” LOL, fucking LOL. I’ve been going through that argument for a couple months now. Every fucking hot celebrity girl looks like a plain Jane without makeup. Once you realize this you can get to where Blaximus preaches. Prior to my red pill education, I never would “lean in” to my wife’s attractiveness. After, most certainly not going to go down the road of Oneitis. She looks good without make up, she looks exceptional with… Read more »
@WIA In my experience and opinion, there is no ” 10 “. One Man’s 10 is another man’s 7. I encourage all guys to dispense with the ” pressure ” of the HB scale, and go for what they like and find attractive because that’s what matters. There’s no ” perfect “, there is perfect for you. I’m not a huge fan of makeup, but it’s fairly prevalent these days. Learn to see through it. Sans makeup, girls start to look strikingly similar in many ways. Now you can better see and make good judgement for yourself. None of this… Read more »
Women who don’t wear makeup look better without makeup than women who wear makeup after they’ve taken it off. Both the makeup and the removal fucks with your skin something fierce. That’s part of the issue with “without makeup” celebrity pics.
Of course for most women “no makeup” means only wearing mascara and lip gloss, OK, and maybe a bit of blush, not actually NO makeup.
Hi @WIA No, i’m not frustrated at you! 🙂 I like your posts I’m applying mysterymethod and not RSD stuff, so I know that everything I do and say is at least ‘correct’ and so am not frustrated personally. I guess i’m just slightly sympathetic/frustrated on behalf of some of the other newbies though, (if that makes sense) Like, I can completely understand THEIR confusion, even though it doesn’t effect me. But I think the confusion is that they are running RSD game on a MysteryMethod forum (so opening direct, or asking what her name is after opening with a… Read more »
@J – I watched that ‘the heights’ link with my breakfast on my lap! Classic stuff. cheers
actually, neither of them look like 10’s to me in them pics without makeup (I just found them after googling ”10 without makeup” lol), although Adriana Lima (2nd pic) has been a 10 (to me) in some pics WITH makeup.
I don’t think I could ever rate a girl a ’10’ without makeup, *personally*
@WIA One of the first things I learned is that the mirror can be a spooky sight for anyone,male or female. In this respect we are all the same,kfg’s girl is likely self concious about her freckles,scars 1 her hair and neck wrinkles,scars 2 her hair and ears. This is a big part of approach anxiety the same dynamic can make or break things. At some level she is self conscious about something,so holding eye contact with amused mastery works to build comfort in a non judgmental way,if my eye wanders or stays to long on a feature her defense… Read more »
One of the first lessons Game taught me way back in the 70’s was ” don’t be a sucker “. and most people are sheep. Lol. This is why I resonate with red pill so deeply. Just because a guy is walking around on stilts doesn’t mean he’s 12 feet tall. @ stuff – yes, many women are very self conscious at their cores. With the popularity of social media, especially Snapchat and Instagram, the self doubt gets lessened to a greater extant than in the past. Every chick is only a posting away from more validation than she would… Read more »
Lol,, I’ve had snl’s where after taking a chick to the no-tell and having enthusiastic sex, the bed looked like a murder scene, with tufts of hair and false nails and eyelashes and smeared makeup all over.
And in every case what emerged from the shower afterwards was just a chick.
@Blaximus, Never be a sucker, indeed.
That “10” you see today – what you don’t see is her taking a massive, smelly shit four hours earlier. Heartiste had a pic on his site many moons ago of a bloody on-the-rag vagina pic to remind people of their perfect “10s.”
As you say, they are just girls.
@WIA great breakdowns… good luck! — @dr zipper kfg – not sure what your point is, but would like to know; his point was that you’re pov wrt ‘money’ is being informed by FI/BP/social conditioning ideas and he was pointing out what those were (and why) – by theory and examples… which i co-sign… stop moving the fucking goal posts; sometimes you go precise and specific, then flip to general and informal; it comes across as disingenuous and somewhat troll-ish; wouldn’t be out of character if it were all intentional, it might be entertaining for you; sucks for those of… Read more »
“Every chick is only a posting away from more validation than she would ever garner IRL. I actually believe it’s changing the social landscape in a very negative way” Ya which is why puas have changed their strategies wrt this new social landscape. Game tactics such as: Push for the SNL > Day2. Devalidate her a couple times > easy qualifications. Kiss denial. Going Indirect > going direct right away are now vital to combating all the free validation girls get from thirsty beta males online and getting the lay instead of going home with a just a make out… Read more »
And the follow up CH article:
“The great paradox of social media and dating apps which were intended to facilitate hooking up and relationship formation is that the technology leads to LESS sex because women get their egos stroked so thoroughly by thirsty swiping betas, they don’t need their kittens stroked.”
@j Similarly, states discourage marriage. State law assumes an unmarried mother of a child is a single parent needing big subsidies. However, in more than half the cases, she is cohabiting with the father, and has the benefit of his income as if she were married. In effect, the state is subsidizing couples to cohabit, rather than to marry. Which is why you need the mindset that pussy is just pussy…nothing special…there’s no shortage of supply, lol…and Blax’s take that, once you remove the packaging, girls are pretty much all the same …all the same, there was one bartender chick… Read more »
@j correction
preceding quoted text should have been:
are now vital to combating all the free validation girls get from thirsty beta males online and getting the lay instead of going home with a just a make out and a number that will never respond to you
WIA http://40.media.tumblr.com/161f77b3262123a89b6811d92cb5ca6e/tumblr_ni27msiY3m1r2y35mo1_400.png My thoughts on the HB Scale… 10s are 9s that meet your peculiar lussts… I.e. bone white green eyed redheads… 9s are girls who literally live off of their looks… Either as models or trophies… They have no other skills. They are generally taller and remarkable faces and perfect proportions. 8s are “hollywood pretty”… Beautiful faces… But tend to be shorter and more squat dimensions. Playmates fit this category as well. Usually need to work and be good at something… Even if this is just acting or newsreading. 7s are the “totally hot girls” most guys see in… Read more »
Girl I sort of know is my idea of a 10, personally. But everyone has their own tastes
https://imgur.com/a/8x91y
Which is why you need the mindset that pussy is just pussy…nothing special…there’s no shortage of supply, lol…and Blax’s take that, once you remove the packaging, girls are pretty much all the same
Just a couple of the same pussies strolling down the street.
Edit: IS objective…
Part of the ” less sex ” phenomenon is indeed due to the avalanche of social media validation, but a lot more of it is due to the lack of game, pua and red pill understanding among males young and old. Watching young guys in particular, they appear totally clueless as to how to escalate and close the deal. They seem to gamble, and I’m not only talking about approaching chicks in clubs or certain venues either. It’s not ever really about what she happens to be doing ( Snapchat Instagram dating app ) or thinking ( beta orbiter validation… Read more »
Blaximus
With the popularity of social media, especially Snapchat and Instagram, the self doubt gets lessened to a greater extant than in the past. Every chick is only a posting away from more validation than she would ever garner IRL. I actually believe it’s changing the social landscape in a very negative way.
Huh. When YaReally made that exact same point, you were quite dismissive.
What changed? Why is this now true, when before it wasn’t?
@Scars, that girl is pretty. I just remembered some game advice dude once saying that whenever you see a super hot girl, to short circuit your tendency to pedestal her, try to pick out an imperfection with each hot girl you see. With that picture you provide, I immediately see that her forehead is quite large. Once I see that, I can’t stop seeing it. Know what I mean? Good thing to practice.
If you click on the “favorite rat” pick, it opens a pinterest of “no make up” face shots.
Blax
it’s about your ability as a man to assert your masculine self/Game.
The landscape…
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/11/01/when-soyboys-attack-with-flapping-wrists/
@ AR
My position hasn’t changed at all. Ya took the social media impact to extremes, as he was prone to hyperbole and exaggeration when it came to the limited ” field “. I disagreed with him and debated him on degrees and what was possible for the average guy to do about it.
@newly
I wish that worked for me! lol. I still see a ridiculous ’10’ despite the forehead! She looks amazing when i’ve seen her without any makeup, too. Ouch!
Newly Scars
With that picture you provide, I immediately see that her forehead is quite large. Once I see that, I can’t stop seeing it. Know what I mean? Good thing to practice.
And she is fat. Very pretty face, but looks like she has some weight about her…
Inure yourself to beauty, but don’t let go of its charms. You can watch videos, instagrams of models are good, the candid video clips… just to get used to picking out flaws, differences, goofy behavior, etc. Practice online…
But really go get them in real life…
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTO3Trfj6cZ/?taken-by=imbeckb
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXdxNpuDAlp/?taken-by=imbeckb
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXQ1gEBD0hj/?taken-by=imbeckb
Newly scars
“That’s not a forehead… it’s a fivehead!!!”
@Sentient. lol! Scar’s 10 has a 5head.
Reminds me of a joke:
Teacher to Dirty Johnny: “Johnny, make a sentence out of the word urinate.”
Dirty Johnny: “Okay! Urinate – if you had a smaller forehead, you’d be a ten.”
Blaximus Watching young guys in particular, they appear totally clueless as to how to escalate and close the deal. That’s the result of 18+ years of FI brainwashing in the K-12 system (public or private makes no difference) plus a couple of years of “All Men Are Rapists” college. Because they’ve been punished enough times for anything that even resembles escalation, or they’ve seen someone else made the example. “Yes means yes” until it doesn’t. Remember the college back in the 90’s that required continuous “yes” for anything sexual to be considered consensual? California is now teaching high school students… Read more »
And the beck vids make my point for me about ” perfect for you “. I find her just attractive but not sexy. If I was influenced by what other dudes said was super hot and consensually gorgeous, I’d adjust my personal preferences to go after a ” look ” that I don’t actually find all that appealing.
Men should never, ever do this at any time. Save yourself a headache later. Do what you want to do. You have to live your life.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXM7qEWBg-J/?hl=en&taken-by=jessleebuchanan
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU9NHzHBpPk/?hl=en&taken-by=jessleebuchanan
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXYSPTqhUG0/?hl=en&taken-by=jessleebuchanan
Blaximus My position hasn’t changed at all. Ya took the social media impact to extremes, as he was prone to hyperbole and exaggeration when it came to the limited ” field “. I disagreed with him and debated him on degrees and what was possible for the average guy to do about it. We’re just going to have to disagree on this. Either way, from what I see around college campuses the younger Millennials / leading edge Gen Z are much more into phone-reality and much less into each other, in every sense from validation on. I expect to see… Read more »
I’m pretty sure I just fell in love with this chick.
@Everyone on the fiat currency thing, HABD, Blax etc. If I was prone to depression you guys wouldn’t help! And I don’t mean financial. I’m aware that deflation is bad for investing and inflation is good to devalue work (enslave the poor and mid class). But what can we do in general? Most of you are also on a salary / don’t own your own business. We can’t count on pension plans in general, even if we live on a “socialist” country. So you think there is (another) stock market crash coming? How do you invest? You guys just hoard… Read more »
Blax
“If I was influenced by what…”
Fetishism aside… biology influences you…
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/even-blind-men-prefer-the-optimal-0-7-waist-to-hip-ratio/
The FI wants you to believe that there is no objective beauty standard… so ya know you can love Lena DumbhamAss… Your dick is not so easily persuaded… Yes guys can quibble around the edges – Ford v Chevy… but ain’t no rational male going to drop this into the argument
Else…
This is the 2020 Miss America pageant…
@Everyone on T levels and soy stuff: again, if I was prone to depression this wouldn’t help. I guess I’ll ask for a check myself next time I draw blood.
definite 5 head, but i’d still cut my thumbs off to bang her! Any, off out. Later. Have fun!
I expect to see these airbags in more tourist towns. Especially for the girls.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5035191/Airbags-lampposts-protect-Salzburg-phone-users.html
Ripped from the headlines!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNdB8N7Uj8
We must protect the lamposts!
@ IAS Lol, step back from the ledge. Every man’s solutions will differ, but this is kind of the way I approach the whole thing. Save as much fiat money as possible while you are young and working. Don’t be consumer driven. If you spend money, buy land and PAY for it outright. No loans. Until hurricane maria fucked up part of my escape ( from working ) plan, I had a hurricane proof home atop a mountain in Puerto Rico. In the backyard I’d planted a dozen fruit trees 15 years ago. Half of them were blown off the… Read more »