For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.
So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.
There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.
Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.
So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.
It’s old home week. All the best gents.
IAS you are the shining example, for all doors who come here.
Onward!
Mini FR I’ve known one of my wife’s friends for almost a decade. Unlike most of my wife’s friends, she’s not boring or tedious – she’s actually really good fun to talk to, smart and decent to above average looking. When I first met her, she was a fairly attractive mid 30s slim brunette, now mid 40s and letting go to some extent and put on some weight, so not as attractive, but still okay looking and smart and funny (and divorced). A few years ago (after her divorce I think), she was over at our place, and got a… Read more »
@Sentient & HABD & OTP First things first I took your your advice with No.1 Son. My last birthday and Xmas were a wash out. I got nothing from him. And I poasted here. Anyway in the end I sent him a “funny card” and also I sent him a monogrammed passport holder to match the monogrammed card holder I sent him last Xmas. In response to last Xmas’ present I got a perfectly worded, capitalised and punctuated fuck off letter telling me that his “focus” was on his exams etc… which was almost certainly dictated verbatim by his mother.… Read more »
@OTP
Are you absolutely sure that you want feedback on that^^^???
Palma – hey that’s great news, congratulations. It may take time yet, and there may be a two-steps-forward-one-step-back dynamic too, but it looks like a major step forward – hopefully will continue over the next year or two. Nah, don’t really need feedback as such. Id be a moron if I couldn’t figure out what was going on after the years I’ve spent in this FR section. The only real uncertainty is that I’m not sure if she planned it deliberately or it was just a subconscious push by her hamster “Oh go on..why don’t you text OTP…it was so… Read more »
@PalmaSailor
So agenda is to get a meeting with son No.1 and just hang out and answer any questions he has.
How to proceed?
make it easy for him to meet you… but not have to risk too much blow back from mom… if she finds out… you don’t need to hide anything, but he’ll appreciate that if its an issue… probably a coffee shop or something by his school…
good luck!
@OTP (waiting for HABD to pop up with “….really feel the FI’s hand on your shoulder..” any time now. ) lol… consider it done… The only real uncertainty is that I’m not sure if she planned it deliberately or it was just a subconscious push by her hamster “Oh go on..why don’t you text OTP…it was so nice to see him and hang out at the Christmas party..” it’s ALL subconscious… ALWAYS… that’s the whole idea behind girls’ ‘covert sexual agenda’… OMG!!! It Just Happened!!! ™ lol… i think @Rollo probably has some OPs on that sh^t…lol It’s just..I’m still… Read more »
OTP – It’s weird though – both the women are above among my wife’s closest friends (not like her BFF, but in the top half dozen or so for sure).
Foursome!!!!
https://tenor.com/view/jon-hamm-threesome-madmen-kiss-lesbian-gif-13288879
Palma
That’s great news he’s sent you a card. Big thing is to let him know you got it, update your contacts with him and keep those lines open. By all means try and schedule an easy coffee but don’t press it… Maybe text him a funny gif next month with nothing more to it. few breadcrumbs over the next six months.
OTP I’ve known one of my wife’s friends for almost a decade. Unlike most of my wife’s friends, she’s not boring or tedious – she’s actually really good fun to talk to, smart and decent to above average looking. Ok- buuuuuttttt she’s your wife’s friend. When I first met her, she was a fairly attractive mid 30s slim brunette, now mid 40s and letting go to some extent and put on some weight, so not as attractive, but still okay looking and smart and funny (and divorced). This is ground control to Major Tom, you’re breaking into space and the… Read more »
LOL@Palma. I’m not sure what you’re getting at about getting squished in the middle? My marriage is fine – the wife initiated sex last night and told me 2-3 times today how much she enjoyed it and suggested a New Year’s Resolution to have sex every single day in January. I’m obviously not going for any drama with the wife’s friend – I have zero intention of initiating anything even though I could. I have a couple of FWBs I see from time to time when I want variety. In fact one of my goals in 2024 when I get… Read more »
Happy new year all.
Now for something a little off topic. Women with this problem must be avoided. They tend to like deviant 5ex though. Happy new year.
“The Role of PTSD in History”
Hitler was an abused child. Marx was an abused child. Stalin was an abused child. Putin is an abused child. Their displaced rage from the abuse destroyed their morals. The anger is the disease.
https://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2023/12/the-role-of-ptsd-in-history.html
Happy New Year Palma and the boys!
Happy New Things Could be Worse and Probably Will be so Enjoy It While You Can Year.
Happy New Year everyone! I think 2024 is going to be interesting in the Chinese sense of “may you live in interesting times”, and I’m glad you guys are here to share it with.
M Simon – welcome back. I’ve been rereading a lot of old comment threads during the holidays and you used to be way more active.
Happy New Year all!!!
and good luck! I think we’re all going to need it…
@OTP To be honest I do worry about you. This analysis of random women really where you’re not the instigator. I still can’t quite work out what you want and how you’re using game to get it. The worry is a scenario where one of these women throws herself, you didn’t use game, you don’t continue it, and it blows up in your face because it was never under your control. Children with dynamite type thing. Far far far better, you see a gurl you like, open, play it, and contain it on your own terms. But I’m really not… Read more »
LR after a long time – time to get some activity back here. Met a mid 40s nurse from online (who knew I was married). Decent looking, decent body, not superhot or anything, but decent at conversation and a 6. Not much to say really. She asked for a call so I had a short call with her and told her a story of something (fictional) that happened to me that morning that made look very kind. Sent me a message after call saying I had a “very sexy voice” She was plainly a bit nervous before meeting me –… Read more »
@OTP well done, congrats!
@OTP
Good to see you back in the chair!
So heads up! Finally got to the position where we’re going to travel to somewhere that the in-laws can come and visit and meet their grandson. We didn’t do this on purpose, I just got fucked off that every time we want to go to my favourite island in the med, the current Mrs PS needs a visa and the Espanol! govt. are being twats about this issuing individual visas for each trip when they could just issue a year and we could go to and from. So I asked where we could go, short flight, decent weather, no visa…… Read more »
Thanks IAS & Palma! Palma -wait, what she’s pregnant again? Congratulations! At this rate you’re going to have quite the brood! I don’t think you should overthink the inlaws thing. I would not ignore them or completely avoid seeing them – it looks weird and awkward and artificial. I mean things are a bit awkward because you weren’t exactly the model of husband they would have picked for their daughter, but that’s kind of understandable. Doesn’t mean you need to be obsequious and go out of your way to impress them or anything, but don’t go to the opposite extreme… Read more »
Congrats Ole Bean!
L E G E N D
So I’m not sure if I need a clearer thought process, or in fact it doesn’t matter. My life exists daily and the wife’s parents don’t enter into it. By that I mean that we don’t have any drama associated with them. They’re so far away it doesn’t matter to me. From time to time she is ‘quiet’, and it’s clear that the parent’s disapproval is getting to her, but to a large extent, to her credit, she bats this off and she’s closer to me as a result. They only ever ask after the baby, never about her, or… Read more »
^^ by the way, from my perspective they are both welcome to see their grandson.
I have no beef, and I actually understand that they don’t like the relationship.
But that’s irrelevant, I don’t care they don’t like it, they are still welcome to meet their grandson and have a relationship with him, and he should meet and have a relationship with them.
I suspect you are right Palma. May I never have to deal with … 🧐
Once little PS II comes, she’s not gonna have any time to think about her parents, the run up may be a bit bumpy though.
@ Travellingman
I’m in the phase of wanted self actualization
What does this mean to you?
What is it that you really want.. ?
@ Sentient
I hope you never have to deal with it.
But if you do, I can tell you that the way Mrs PS’ parents have done it is wrong. And if you think about it it makes perfect sense.
They don’t like him = bad boy = AF (even if temporary)
They like him bc he’s “such a nice guy” = BB – she’ll dump him.
It’s as plain as the nose on your face.
@Traveling Man
Nested comments don’t really work.
Maybe I just burn the ship and fly the pirate flag high
Not sure anymore.
Any directional wisdom from the older crowd would be much appreciated.
There are worse things to do… have you heard about being Dynamic, Passionate and Authentic?
Where are you guys seeing a post by Traveling Man? I can’t see it on this page? Anyway, miniFR from me – not connected to me, just observed but was a true case study of Young People Today and the farce that is the dating scene. I was at a bar as part of a big group of men and was very much the center of conversation. The table behind me had a couple on what was obviously a first date. I couldn’t hear all their conversation but I could catch quite a lot of it. Man late 20s, woman… Read more »
Mini FR Out for dinner with two (very) normie male friends (one of them is single and has a lot of experience with women but would be horrified at the things I get up to; the other is a nice guy but total BP family man). Waitress is mid 20s brunette, cute (not super hot) and very flirty. Talkative, smiley, but just more you know. Not just with me, with all three of us (a bit more with my single friend, mostly because he talked a bit more) but also smiling and laughing with neighbouring tables, although I couldn’t tell… Read more »
Hey All Just got the below from Son No.1… I had been emailing him at the only address I had but then I tried through a link at his university. Turns out that sons are like buses because we just got news that No.3 is on the way! What do you all think prompted this? Does it matter? FWIW the current Mrs PS says that the ex’s new guy cant be a father figure because he simply hasn’t been in the game long enough. Doesn’t matter if he’s a loser or not, he’s just not been on the scene since… Read more »
Oh wow. I don’t think there’s any need to overthink this – it’s great news Palma. Just meet him whenever and take things at his pace. He’s telling you exactly what he wants to do and what he’s comfortable with. So just do that – you have decades to build up the relationship, so keep it chill and low pressure. And as HABD et al have said before – don’t insult his mom, or tell him your side of the story or why she’s bad etc. He probably knows it on some level, but saying it out loud will just… Read more »
@ OTP I suppose that I didn’t really think that it would ever happen if I’m honest. His muther was just so furious about everything to do with me and so totally totally full of ‘hate’. But it’s been over 12 years now, and more or less everyone must be saying “sheesh, isn’t it about time you got over it” plus she just got a lump sum of munny. So the munny was late, but in the end it got paid, and it was voluntary. I paid a lot more than she won in court voluntarily to settle. So he’s… Read more »
Palma, That’s great news. we’ve said he’d come around at some point. This is better than the alternative I suspected, which was after he faced some horrible work or girl event and came to terms with he is truly alone on this blue ball and no one is there for him… reach out to dad, stuff. Awesome. Yeah the thing to do is just ride the wave, and just show him little snippets of your world – how you are a cool and non judgmental guy with a lot of smart things to say about a lot of topics, how… Read more »
And the old standard line –
A kid comes home after four years of college is a AMAZED at how smart his Dad has got in the meantime…
@Sentient Thanks. It may be that there is a horrible work event, or a girl event. I don’t know yet. There is definitely a work event in that he will soon have to get a serious job. He’s currently doing a couple of jobs, one for an up market supermarket and another part time somewhere I can’t determine. The horrible gurl event may well be his muther jumping up and down for munny. Leopards, spots and all that. Yeah, anyway we actually are really relaxed. It’s not like anything else I’ve ever been in. Mrs PS thinks he will hate… Read more »
@PalmaSailor Hey All Just got the below from Son No.1… I had been emailing him at the only address I had but then I tried through a link at his university. Turns out that sons are like buses because we just got news that No.3 is on the way! Congratulations!!! What do you all think prompted this? probably that email addy is not monitored by mother… Does it matter? nope… FWIW the current Mrs PS says that the ex’s new guy cant be a father figure because he simply hasn’t been in the game long enough. Doesn’t matter if he’s… Read more »
@HABD No.3 is on the way! Congratulations!!! Thanks! What do you all think prompted this? probably that email addy is not monitored by mother… Man…..is it that BAD?????!!!! I honestly hadn’t even thought that idea a possibility. Does it matter? nope… Well….in my wildest dreams I’d never have considered that his muther was still monitoring his emails. Especially since it was me that set the account up. FWIW the current Mrs PS says that the ex’s new guy cant be a father figure because he simply hasn’t been in the game long enough. Doesn’t matter if he’s a loser or… Read more »
So the meeting with No.1 son was surreal. It was like meeting an old friend after a long break really. I checked into the coffee shop over an hour early for our appointment because I’d finished work and didn’t want to get caught in traffic / had emails and stuff to do etc… He turned up a clear hour early as well and was surprised to see me. He’d said that he’d planned to get some studying done. There were no issues. Talked about his studies and what he wants to do after. He said that people like him (middle… Read more »
@PalmaSailor So the meeting with No.1 son was surreal. It was like meeting an old friend after a long break really. good!… this shows that he was mostly (even if just unconsciously) keeping his head down to stay off mom’s sh^t list… you should be able to pretty much pick up where your relationship left off… just don’t bring it up and try to analyze with him… remember @Sentient’s excellent advice… “don’t mention the mother and never blame the son…” I checked into the coffee shop over an hour early for our appointment because I’d finished work and didn’t want… Read more »
Mini update – I have a plan in place to sort out my financial issues – partly arranging financing on some assets, and partly I’ve picked up a couple of non-crypto projects relating to my previous career before crypto. Once that comes through in the next 2-3 months, I plan to spend a significant amount of time on Game related stuff this year. I’ve achieved a lot of what I wanted to in Game but haven’t yet taken the “final step” that HABD and Sentient talk about, and it’s back to that (and posting FRs etc, even of relatively minor… Read more »
Oh I just saw Palma’s update – congratulations Palma – glad to see that is back on track.
(I rejected a job through someone my mom knew too, at that age…a college internship actually, but same diff)
(Now I’d probably take it, I am old and have nothing to prove to anyone or to myself..)
Palma
That’s awesome!!! He’s your boy, there is nothing anything can be done about that… Lol
No mystery… He’s dealing with Teh Real World(tm) now… No more Mommy bullshit and blinders. And who is the ONLY person in his life that’s kept it 💯 as the kids say?
Only you Boss. Enjoy that 21st…
Dads keeping it real…
@HABD he obviously didn’t want to miss you… just like you were there early… I certainly was there early for that reason. I thought he may have had the same reason. But I’m still cautious in my thoughts. true… that sh^t is worldwide… is he handy?… do you need an assistant?… future contractor in training?… I would just love that. But thinking long and hard, and just looking at how he was, and also bearing in mind I’m biased he was just streets ahead of any other (young) men I’ve come in contact with in the last decade. He looked… Read more »
Palma – lol, I had to sell about 50% or a bit more of what I had a year ago for living expenses, but even the remaining half is worth like 50% more than it was last year. Crypto is wild. I’m making plans for this cycle and studying what to invest in and how to make money. I don’t know if I will make as much money as I did in the last bull market cycle in 2021, but I do know I will TAKE profits this time, and not repeat that particular mistake… I think my son is… Read more »
On another note, I actually had a Game question. Was talking to an old friend who told me his early 20s niece had recently come back from a backpacking trip in Asia and was, I think, in Bali, and when talking about the trip mentioned “Oh there was some old guy in our youth hostel, and he kept trying to hang out with us and do stuff and it was really weird..why doesn’t he go and hang out with the old people instead?” Upon questioning it turns out the “old guy” was 40ish. So as both a general question and… Read more »
“weird old guy in the hostel with young people”?
Come on brah… Basics –
“what you FEEL she FEELS…”
Congruence
How about “COOL old (lol) guy in the hostel…”?
And how congruent is it for you to be in XYZ? So elt that guide you.
But really, setting up a safari… well there are girls nearby if you really want to get better.
Glad to hear about the crypto lottery…
Thanks Sentient – not the primary purpose of the trip but certainly worth a side trip if I’m going to Asia anyway. But yes – plenty of women around here
More generally I think I just need to get back to basics on the Game stuff for myself – so out of practice (except for the occasional online date that is now completely internalized) that I am even starting to forget my theory stuff..
Creepy old doods better step off…
@OTP I’m just thinking really that now is a time to get out from crypto. I’m just thinking through my past as basically I’m starting again and reviewing my successes and failures. The early success was property and that was within the established systems and narrative. I had 8 figures in leveraged assets and low ish 7 in equity. One mistake wiped that out. Then I embarked on a decade+ in a business that I would liken to crypto in as much as it wasn’t in my control and was outside the system In that I was pursuing the banks… Read more »
On another note, I actually had a Game question. ahhhhh… good! Was talking to an old friend who told me his early 20s niece had recently come back from a backpacking trip in Asia and was, I think, in Bali, and when talking about the trip mentioned “Oh there was some old guy in our youth hostel, and he kept trying to hang out with us and do stuff and it was really weird..why doesn’t he go and hang out with the old people instead?” Upon questioning it turns out the “old guy” was 40ish. Muh, he’s a whippersnapper. The… Read more »
Palma, Close to 4 years full time in crypto actually. And 2.5 years part time before that (a couple hours a day) in addition to my previous day job. My thought process isn’t the same as yours, but I have come to somewhat similar conclusions – this is my last crypto cycle. Crypto is very cyclical – I got in at the height of the 2017 cycle, when I was completely clueless and rode it all the way down. Then I played the 2020/21 cycle full time and made a lot of money (and then lost most of it by… Read more »
OTP
I haven’t actually done the math,
Don’t you kinda have to for taxes?
Sentient – no. Or at least not that calculation. The most accurate/relevant calculation for our purposes is how much money (USD) I put into crypto vs how much I took out, and I wish I could do the same thing for my taxes – it would mean I do my crypto taxes in about 30 minutes every year and save dozens of hours. However, for tax purposes, every crypto transaction is treated as a taxable event – every single one. Including selling one crypto and buying another, simply paying 5 bucks in fees to transfer coins between wallets and so… Read more »
Shit testing? So at the weekend we went to a country that the o laws could travel to from Moscow. The intention was actually to find somewhere we could jump a flight to if we felt like it without visa worries. Anyway the Mother in law decided to fly down and the father in law didn’t know if he could make it. Last minute it was confirmed that both MIL and FIL were coming. I have no beef but I’d told Mrs PS that life is too short to hang with people that don’t like me so I’ll take her… Read more »
To be honest I didn’t want secks which I really why I said no.
Palma She’s now expecting again right? So you have some post partum stuff mixing in with the new hormonal stuff. She’s gonna be pinging hard for safety and comfort. So alpha in a velvet glove. That’s probably part of her feelings for her dad – that he’s in a “reduce resources” mode that is automatically triggering… never mind what’s in the larder. That mastodon over the hill isn’t going to get got. She returns later in a peculiar mood. She says that she doesn’t think things are good at home and she says she thinks her father has “given up”.… Read more »
@Sentient Sisterhood Uber Alles, they can’t help but be pissed if another sister might be getting shorted… I hadn’t thought of that, I thought that she had regarded him as her backup resource and all of a sudden he’s not looking like that. She has definitely thought that if the SHTF she could bounce back to a large fambly haus in the countryside with the baybee(s) and it would all be ok. I’m sure that she still could, but for the first time she’s questioning. And it’s not the first time. When the SHTF with the war and all of… Read more »
I actually went back and checked my cash in-cash out profit from crypto because I was intrigued and went through bank statements etc. Basically I have withdrawn to bank and spent about 2.5x the amount I put into crypto originally. And I have another 0.6 or so (at today’s prices) in crypto. So if I put in $100, I have withdrawn about $250 or so (including the original $100) and still hold about $60 in crypto which is likely to go up rapidly in value in the course of this cycle. And hopefully I can put in some fresh cash… Read more »
I could have done better and missed the obvious trading/investing mistakes of getting caught up in the hype and the greed, but there’s learning by bitter experience for you I think I’ve done quite well actually – In the last few years, I have 3x’ed a large (to me) sum of money, lived purely on the profits for about 3.5 years now, supported a family of four in a very high cost of living city (and done a lot of family travel), taught myself to become an expert in an entirely new industry and technology unconnected with my previous career… Read more »
It takes up a lot of mental energy and time keeping up to date but one thing I’ve realized from looking back at my trading and investing in the last few years is that only a few key decisions actually matter significantly to the bottom despite all the time and energy that goes into it. Pretty much 98-99% of my profits in 2021 were the result of two decisions to invest in particular coins in 2018 and 2020. That’s it – I could have slept through all of 2021 and had virtually all of the money I just made after… Read more »
In 2017 I linked to a writeup on bitcoin in Global Guerrillas (John Robb).
No one who buys and sells for speculation gets the timing exactly right. Everyone always says they should have sold sooner, bought more, sold later, bought sooner…and of course it was all “so clear” in 20/15 hindsight.
If your speculation has done well, that is fantastic. Declare victory.
Speculate only with money you can afford to lose.
I knew someone who won 5 million in Las Vegas about 2015 (slot machine).
Today he owes everyone money.
Thank you anon.
Maybe I read what you linked then – I just can’t remember.
I try to remind myself of that positive (part of the reason I wrote this series of posts) instead of dwelling on the negative, and it has helped to refocus me, but it’s an ongoing mental discipline
(also it’s good to see there are still a few posters hanging around from the old days)
So I know how this subject goes down in here but I need to talk it through. Our 2nd baby is due in august and so far so good. Provided that one goes well, I’ve had enough. Two under two at 56 plus the older one is plenty for me and the current Mrs PS has said that she doesn’t want any moar. The problem is that I know enough to know thats her forebrain talking and not her hindbrain which controls her attachment / attraction to me. The forebrain is quite adamant, but remember that she is one of… Read more »
exciting stuff Palma General rule – if it is her idea, don’t do it. If it is your idea, maybe. Like you come home one day and set about icing your nuts having had it done. But that’s my gut reaction. It’s a tough one, rubbers may be the way to go for a bit next go round. Not a lot of good options. It just seems like such a concession, it can’t help but have some kind of hindbrain impact. and we know how that shit works itself out over time… My experience – fended it off “my next… Read more »
“I’m not sure that I want her / or she will agree to take hormonal birth control, so that leaves other types for her that are more permanent, and could easily change her personality which is defined by her youth and her motherly instinct amongst other things.”
What about the IUD?
There’s the hormone and non hormone options, but the amount of hormone is minuscule in them, even if she uses that….it is localized for the most part.
It is easily reversible, as long as it doesn’t get imbedded, which is rare.
@Palma I know that people (here included) say that guys that pull out are called parents, and your wife is a bit younger and therefore more fertile than the ones I’ve done without protection for months… That said, I always wondered how true it is that “you can get pregnant with pre-ejaculate fluid”. I can see that it is not impossible, but the odds must realistically be so low that I sometimes suspect it is something that is left as a possibility so that a guy can be convinced he is the father when he didn’t even ejaculate inside her.… Read more »
@PalmaSailor So I know how this subject goes down in here but I need to talk it through. it’s ALL part of RP knowledge base… Our 2nd baby is due in august and so far so good. Congrats, man!… Provided that one goes well, I’ve had enough. Two under two at 56 plus the older one is plenty for me have you identified why?… energy… munny… future guilt?… this might make a difference on your potential approaches to a solution… and the current Mrs PS has said that she doesn’t want any moar. lol… if’n you’re AF, her hamster is… Read more »
@Sentient It just seems like such a concession, it can’t help but have some kind of hindbrain impact. and we know how that shit works itself out over time… Yep. I don’t actually want to do it. The whole point of poasting here was to get a clear head on the subject. I think the whole point is – which I hadn’t articulated is that you can’t be AF if you’re a Jaffa. It’s impossible, and so by default you have to then become BB. @Liz. Thanks. It’s one of her options. There’s no avoiding the elephant in the room… Read more »
@Sentient / HABD Sentient 1 month ago In other words, all good. Keep an eye on the frequency of these kinds of episodes. I hadn’t diarised it but I have now. Repeating the above. We went for a scan on Sunday in central London and all is good. Only glitch is that we’ve both come down with some virus, runny nose, sweaty etc.. which killed the Karma as we were going to go out for lunch while we’re in London for the scan but felt carp so came straight home. Couple of days feeling grotty apart from that fairly normal… Read more »
@PalmaSailor
you should decide what to make for dinner and then have her eat that… just crisps aren’t good nutrition…
good luck!
Palma Seems like typical womanly hormonal game bs. The slippery slope is asking “what’s wrong?” And then they blah blah blah for two hours… Second HABD advice to make dinner and leave it in the fridge. Wouldn’t offer it per se, just make, have a small bite and leave it… i.e. life will go on Miss Moody. Love the tickling the baby… 😂 What you have to balance is the hormones… Straight game can’t fix that and can lead to unpredictable results. Quiet grind is the way… 200 years ago your great great great grandfather would never even notice any… Read more »
Since it’s crickets here… For OTP a mini fr I posted over at PA for a guy there, Mendo… Which was predictably met with… crickets… Elk “I have figured out the obvious conclusion that I need to “be more creative” in coming up with ways to connect, if that’s an actual goal. ” Nah. You have to be Open to situations and Make A Move. That’s it. Tonight, for example. I was entering a pizza place and there was a woman walking by who said “that place must be good, I saw a lot of people coming out with boxes”.… Read more »
@HABD / Sentient I cooked dinner Thursday night, and I sat down to eat mine and put mine on a plate and she said she didn’t want any and sat there and ate nothing. Her serving stayed in the pot and I left it there and she put it in the fridge. Where it still is. She’ll have to throw it out soon as we’re getting an early flight Monday and so need to clear odd bits from the fridge – it won’t get eaten. She joined me in our bed Friday night , but it was a no contact… Read more »
@Sentient nice, slice of pie 😉
She opened / gave a relatively obvious approach invite, so it was on from the start.
The repeat “recently divorced” was already catonese for “can you please bang me?”.
The remark about your face was “pretty please? Bang me?”.
Good on you for noticing, of course you are under no obligation to oblige.
Sentient – was on holiday. Back now. Still preoccupied with crypto and finances but that fog is lifting now, and my libido is actually higher than ever with the lifting I’ve been doing the last few months. I actually met a guy on some Game Telegram group locally who seems vaguely sane and in the same age bracket as me so we’re actually going out this coming week on a weekday evening to hit the bars. First time out with a wing since pre-pandemic (in fact I think first time out since the pandemic full stop). I am not expecting… Read more »
PS – as to the topic of horny unfulfilled women walking around – I had like 3 FWBs towards the end of last year (and a 4th available if I wanted – a former FWB who could come back in the rotation if I wanted). I lost interest in one, another one had some family issues (she had a pretty crazy family life) and went silent. The third is the longest serving one – married and seeing me occasionally but regularly for almost a year now (although both of us tend to travel a lot so have been some longish… Read more »
@OTP good on you for going out, let us know.
@OTP
We need reports!
No pressure..
All right, so I went out for a couple of hours for post work drinks (FR). Not much happened but I did my first real cold approach in years so I’m pretty happy. And I had a good time and a fun, relaxed vibe with my wing and most importantly didn’t have that desperate “need to do my approaches” stress vibe thing going. And we’re going to do it again in a couple weeks. We went to a popular after work drink spot, full of people (lots of people are still working from home on Mon/Fri so Thursdays tend to… Read more »
OTP
You know, that’s a healthy FR. You just need to normalize going out and being sociable. As you said you can escalate so look for that window. But just keep going out being sociable and get the whole “risk on, risk off” mindset behind you.
@OTP I’ve just recruited my second member of staff as a trainee carpenter. Guy is at least 6ft, jacked and solidly good looking but he admits he’s not got the balls to dump his gf. He’s a totally “nice guy”. When he did break up with her recently he was tell8mg his tale of woe to a girl at the gym, and that’s girl had him in bed by that evening and he was balls deep in her. And that ^^ is nothing to do with game. The guy is in seriously dangerous territory because he just falls in because… Read more »
So we’ve had another tantrum. I had thought the incidences were monthly but we’re now two weeks from the last one. We’ve just got back from a decent week on my favourite island and it’s all been good. Back to work and on Friday I go out with my two boys after work and have 2 beers arriving home at 6pm. I didn’t tell her I was going out after work but I often don’t get home til past 6. I didn’t feel like cooking so I say we go out to pizza place in town – all good. Towards… Read more »
I guess we will see what happens tonight when you get home… The standard is punish bad behavior and reward good behavior. Your situation is a little more complicated with the pregnancy hormones situation. I think it’s a good call to get your back up a bit more and not let her slide. She’s hot and smart and young and may need a bigger dose… And it’s ok for her to be unhappy with you right? Maybe also see what you are doing g to reward good behavior… She may need a little dose. Bigger picture, I wonder if they… Read more »
@Sentient I’m always reminded in these situations of the saying “they hate a man that won’t do what they want, but they absolutely despise a man that will”. And I tend to keep that in mind. I’m also not scared of being a bit of an arsehole. The thought that they’re the oldest child in the house also plays into this. It’s worth bearing in mind they throughout this the house has been spotless, she’s cleaned everything. She does anyway, but it’s been even better lately. I got home and she was in bed and the baby was in his… Read more »
Looking for puddles
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Thanks guys. That’s the plan – what you guys said. I remember being in a gay club once years ago with my wing (we went in to try and hit on the women thinking they’ll have lower bitch shields) and what I mainly remember is how careful I was about avoiding eye contact with any men because I could instinctively feel it would be an open door invitation. I was reminding myself that the same thing applies to women in clubs – and it therefore follows that if I get a solid EC from a woman (which I do, fairly… Read more »
@PalmaSailor
I see a penchant for flashy boots runs in the family…lol
good luck!
Palma Been there my man been there. They beat you down with the baby and baby stuff. it’s just a natural wedge. all my greatest failures have sprung from “well its for the baby” sentiment. It’s really hard to deal with. FWIW – this kind of up and down was a regular feature for many years, decades. Usually with more arguing because for a good part i thought it was a rational discussion that could be had, but always ending in sex. So you’re way ahead this time around Palma. I will review the dread. There’s a lot going on… Read more »
@PalmaSailor </>So we’ve had another tantrum. I had thought the incidences were monthly but we’re now two weeks from the last one. still hormones… We’ve just got back from a decent week on my favourite island and it’s all been good. Back to work and on Friday I go out with my two boys after work and have 2 beers arriving home at 6pm. I didn’t tell her I was going out after work but I often don’t get home til past 6. I didn’t feel like cooking so I say we go out to pizza place in town –… Read more »
@Sentient
FWIW – this kind of up and down was a regular feature for many years, decades. Usually with more arguing because for a good part i thought it was a rational discussion that could be had,
LOL… i was right there with you… at least we know better now…lol
but always ending in sex.
and i didn’t have a clue why… back then anyway…lol
So you’re way ahead this time around Palma.
very true…
good luck!
Palma
Your post at PA, Mrs P is on 1600 calories a day???
Dude, she’s preggers that’s way too low. I would think it’s creating additional problems with behavior, hormones etc.
Feed that girl.
Guys Any ideas on activities I can put my son (12-13) into to develop leader-of-men skills? Apparently Scouts is an idea, but he used to be in it and hated it and said it was just like being taught stuff in a classroom and he didn’t want to go to school after school – there wasn’t much running around in the woods with other boys etc. And he’s smart but not very academic. He plays soccer (team sport) and boxes (individual) regularly and loves both. I’d have thought a team sport would be good to develop leadership skills but in… Read more »
@Sentient My mistake she’s on 1800. In terms of feeding her – no dice. She knows exactly how much protein she wants, what type of protein, weighs it in etc… She knows what vitamins, whether they’re oil or water based, what to take them with, how to take them, where to get them. She knows what carbs, long etc.. and how and when she wants them delivered. If I tried to blindly feed her she’d just push it off her plate. (And she has done) She’s got some slight capacitance on her arse right not that she says she’s saying… Read more »
OTP
well he’s a little young yet but you got the gist of it here
sometimes he helps coach the under-10s and gets some experience there
He can do some summer camp counseling, leading the younger kids. That’s a good place to start. When he gets older, a summer job is a good venue.
@PalmaSailor
as long as she maintains the capacitance, the baby (and her too) will be fine calorie wise. and as long as she is getting proper nutrition same same… the baby will take what he needs in priority over her needs…
good luck!
“the baby will take what he needs in priority over her needs”
That is a fallacy.
In nature, it is more efficient to sacrifice a pregnancy than sacrifice the mother.
Mother can get pregnant again. By contrast, if she is malnourished (hypothetically, not saying that is happening here) the baby can’t raise itself.
@Sentient / HABD / Anon Thanks. She isn’t worried about it, and she thinks about almost nothing else but his nutrition/ how to get xyz foods into him. Apparently there’s a saying in Russia, “one child, one tooth” reflecting that the mother loses a tooth via malnutrition for each child they have. Apparently when the baby is very young her production of Milk is in advance and she’s holding it in stock, but as it gets older it’s produced more or less in real time. Or I mis heard her. The baybee also communicates with her via its saliva and… Read more »