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For the past three years of The Rational Male there’s been a consistent presence in the comment threads of guys seeking advice for particular situations with regards to Game. Whether it’s fine tuning certain aspects of Game or a larger consensus of the guys participating in my comment threads it’s become obvious there’s a need for a dedicated page and comment thread to address these Field Reports.

So I’m instituting this page for exactly this. If there is some urgency to have members of The Rational Male community analyze your particular situation feel free to hit anyone up in the comments of my current post, but please refer them to your particular field report with a link to your comment here. I’m hoping this will alleviate the mass of posts for field report analysis and Game specific insights piled into the main blog post for any given week.

There will be some rules for this “forum” as such. I ask that you only keep your comments to addressing the field reports at hand and save your larger theoretical stuff for the main posts, or if relevant, keep the “bigger scope of things” posts to being as succinct as possible. There will be no moderation in this comment thread (spamming excepted), so realize it will be a very hot kitchen before you post. I will impose no restrictions on video links here, nor will I limit links to various, but pertinent articles.

Understand, this is an experiment for now. It’s likely this comment thread will exceed thousands of comments. I’ll be instituting new comment plug-ins for wordpress to deal with this in the future, but I may archive this page the the posts and refresh this page in the future as well. If this gets cumbersome I may simply institute a dedicated forum-style sub-site of The Rational Male to accommodate for Game specific questions.

So have at it, post your field reports and feel free to comment on the ones you have some particular insight for. Be forewarned that it’s likely things may get a bit salty at times and I expect a lot of back & forth with debate and disagreements, but that’s what this thread is for – to hash out Game particulars for your given situations.

 

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hank holiday
hank holiday
7 years ago

@stuffinbox Hank If I’ve read one of your frs I’ve read them all,they all end up the same Well exactly. You’ve got a preconceived notion of how I actually am, and can’t be bothered to do any research to see if that’s actually true. Its more convenient to just pigeon hole me. Tends to happen a lot here. Plus you are a lot like sentient in that you can’t see nuances. Sentient has this impression I’m some awkward social guy, because in his world there are only alpha top dogs and gamma faggots. Its only black and white, no shades… Read more »

stuffinbox
7 years ago

First this “Lol there are a few for sure. Some though are major fatties lol, and several of them are married. I’m not at a point where I feel like jumping into banging a married woman, especially since most of these girls I’ve met at my work or are girls I actually work with.” So i definitely notice when girls like me. Its just an issue that I really only like non-white girls, and I live in a place that is majority white…so I have to hunt down the non-white girls…but I don’t have good venues to go to. So… Read more »

stuffinbox
7 years ago

@Hank

She is,
“Just like you baby I’m on the hunt”

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KND2HBQ5Nso&w=560&h=315%5D

stuffinbox
7 years ago

Hank you are the man in the arena. “father to the deed. Achievement starts with an idea, a perspective, a point of view, and an attitude: the attitude that no matter what, you will do what it takes to reach your goals — and live the life you want to live. To do that, here’s one affirmation you should repeat at the start of every day. It’s referred to as “The Man in the Arena” and is an excerpt from this 1910 Teddy Roosevelt speech. I first heard it on the new television series The Selection: Special Operations Experiment that… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Hank

Square your logistics and you’re set. You ain’t gonna bang them in the mall.

So where will you bang them?

New Year’s this weekend. Probably the biggest bang night of the year. Where will you be to find her? And where will you go with her?

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Stuff – applaud the effort but you are wasting your time with Hank. He is committed to his false model, finding comfort in the rutted goat path of the daytime mall and stair stepping. Plus you are a lot like sentient in that you can’t see nuances. Sentient has this impression I’m some awkward social guy, because in his world there are only alpha top dogs and gamma faggots Hank – you are an awkward social guy, it comes through in your posts… you cannot take any criticism, are always defending your lack of success, blaming circumstances while simultaneously declaring… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

@Forge The logistics thing is real. Once upon a time I would go hunting iin the city. I’d secure a very nice hotel room/suite and head out for the night. Funnily enough I’d never returned empty handed. At worse I’d game and take home a cute waitress at the end of her shift if the clubs and bars were a bust. There’s great motivation in dropping 2 or 3 hundred for a lair for the night. If a guy is 100% serious, the logistics must be handled. You never know when a chick will blurt out in the middle of… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

But Blax… winging it is such a nice buffer… then you get to play “coulda woulda” and cash in some freebie ego chips without having to actually belly up to the table… all in style.

“bro totally coulda banged that girl… if i didn’t live an hour away. You see her eyes!”

Well it is called game after all… lol. just be sure you are playing and not being played…

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

@ Sentient

Man, on the occasions when I was out hunting with full balls, going home alone was not an option. I limited interactions with chicks to 15-20 minutes and then I moved along to the next one. One thing was certain – some chick left home that night with intentions of fucking.it was my duty to find her.

It’s great to practice. I do it all the time. But when your dick is drier than the Sahara, play time is over.

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

Real Game. That shit is 10x stronger than the force.

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqoAtzTIgGA

Chris – showing how to screen for DTF girls… and how to ACT on the findings.

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8idrK0x55o

And a mid day pull just as a reminder…

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fGxuWv41G4

Aaaaaaaand a 1 minute number close for those busy working girls in the malls…

hank holiday
hank holiday
7 years ago

@sentient Hank – you are an awkward social guy, it comes through in your posts… you cannot take any criticism, Right. Awkward social guy…That’s why people buy me free drinks all the time, and are happy to chat me up. Why dont you actually read my FRs for a change. And you’ll notice I take advice all the time from Culum, Forge, HABD, and others. You’ll also notice these guys tend to refrain from calling me a “gamma faggot”. Interestingly enough you’ve never picked up this little detail. Its because you can’t adapt your advice to anyone, you aren’t a… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Blax et all “Man, on the occasions when I was out hunting with full balls, going home alone was not an option. I limited interactions with chicks to 15-20 minutes and then I moved along to the next one. One thing was certain – some chick left home that night with intentions of fucking.it was my duty to find her. It’s great to practice. I do it all the time. But when your dick is drier than the Sahara, play time is over.” The GLL vid was a good demonstration of this, but this is the way natural guys operate.… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Sentient Don’t think Hank is incompetent, just not ready for the paradigm shift yet. That takes boots on the ground for a while, before then it just sounds like woo. I don’t much like the gamma terminology as it’s become a blank insult in certain spheres, but so far as it goes I think gamma behavior is a natural masculine phase that precedes true confidence – which is gained through the struggles of attainment. I don’t knock people for being fat if they’re at the gym. Some never get there. @Hank Let Sentient plant his seeds, they aren’t pointless. In… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
7 years ago

@hank Forge Forge is right… this weekend is the biggest bang night of the year… so start your year off right!…lol sooo, have you worked out your logistics plan yet? (i thought that i read that you did already, but can’t remember for sure…)… the step by step from ‘instadate’ (or pull from venue…when you spike her buying temp…) to isolation… to back to your place… to ‘bed’… once you start passing shit tests and building attraction/spiking her buying temp, the ONLY thing stopping sex from happening is lack of sexual escalation by you OR bad logistics… IF you have… Read more »

anon
anon
7 years ago

““Those are tiny potatoes. What the fuck do you do with those?”

They’re bigger than they look.
It’s cold in here.

stuffinbox
7 years ago

@Hank

Satisfy yourself.

@Sentient

Hate to see a little bitch clouding up the OP section with whining,same drivel over and over.

Real growth comes from hearing other peoples perspectives weather or not I like it,the less I like it the more growth.

Never could bring myself to disrespect my elders and don’t care to see it,shit isn’t cute.

I know I am getting all I want.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@HABD

Eh, made a bit of a swing at it but I should have done more. Was on a family vacation where everyone would wonder where I was if I was absent for more than an hour or two, and I have a conservative family so I can’t just tell them ‘hey I’m gonna be out banging some chick’ without social repercussions.

But partly I was just in my head. FI ascendant!

Restraining myself 1 week outta the year (and 1 day of the week I suppose) in the name of less drama is fine. I value my family.

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@anon

That’s why I stick ’em in the oven, zfg. They end up being very satisfying with a bit of sour cream.

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

@Hank Please defer toward your elders. https://therationalmale.com/2013/08/29/as-good-as-it-gets/ “The Measure of Game There is an element in the manosphere that will tell you that the only real form of Game, the only legitimate, measure of Game is how many women you’ve successfully banged in your pursuit of perfecting Game for yourself.” Rollo: “I agree with this assessment. The real measure of Game is only truly tested by how well it gets you laid. You can use your understanding of Game to improve your life, your career, your family interactions, etc. You can use your grasp of Game to destroy a feminist’s… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Forge Reminds me of a story… I was lifeguarding over the summer and there was a party and some company came out and set up a tent and balloons and what not. So i flirted with the girl and her boss or wanna be boyfriend older dude was getting pissed. Anyhow she gives me her number and comes over for a date. This was the day before i was flying back to school. So parents planned a big goodbye dinner. My date spot was in our third story stand up attic. Killer spot. She comes for lunch and we have… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago

CSP
http://wp.me/p4tvpM-1NQg

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

“Gramps was cracking up…” Grandpas don’t even exist these days, do they? Nor do uncles. Back in the old days before tecknology, the were the ones that actually told boys not to be pussified. Yep back in the days of Blaximus’ upbringing. Now it is up to the red pill fathers to go side by side with their sons to actually demonstrate, not lecture to or explain to their sons how to be masculine. But to demonstrate red pill life. Otherwise known as be a man. Those days have past, and us fathers have to adapt. But not abdicate our… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

That’s a good point SJF. I would see my grandfather almost every weekend and all through elementary school spend 2 weeks with him in the summer. He was widowed early, when i was 4 so he was very much a bachelor. And an epic trouble maker with a strong taste for drink. We would watch WW2 movies and cop shows… He would be laying on the couch smoking a cigar, having given me an unloaded 45 to shoot the bad guys with on the screen… And tell me about his adventures first in a pre WW2 army which was a… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Forge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDYvJwk5EPM

Chris dropping some grocery store game… Btw you should read his comments as well

http://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/pickup-videos/pickup-girls-8

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

“So you are right on. The RePatriarchy Project (r) is going to have to start with us doing a double shift.” Mom’s are taught by social conventions to drive the impudence right out of teenage boys. The HB9 mom from the couple my wife and I were chatting with last night came to the conclusion that her 13 year old son did wrong to flirt with another girl in his social group (his buddies girlfriend). When flirting is merely normal inter-sexual social interaction and it is good for all the principles involved. Validation for the guy, validation for the girl,… Read more »

theasdgamer
7 years ago

@Sentient

Great vid…stealing shopping carts. GLLs style is obnoxious amused mastery. That’s me, too. XD You don’t need clever convo when you have that style. It’s probably better to have the conversational ability, tho.

I was conspiring with a girl last night, heh. I do Conspiratorial Game when the opportunity presents itself. Always a bit of fun.

As always, keep any hypothetical, problematic details from appearing on the Jumbotron. I’m sure that you use discretion.

I so enjoyed watching that vid.

theasdgamer
7 years ago

(Despite his wooden-ness, the process worked

GLL was only a little wooden in his convo and no more than Mystery. GLLs subcomms were exceedingly smooth. The girl submitted easily to his touch. GLL led that girl around so effortlessly like a little puppy.

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

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stuffinbox
7 years ago

“And dads are conditioned by feminine social conventions to not allow such impudence as it comes up in real time. It takes Red Pill lenses on the dad to redirect the family dynamic and not so much self suppress the boys 100% of the time, rather than give him self discipline most of the time.” It is a good thing to know what worries the women,this teaches the oportunity for discretion,(what she doesn’t know wont hurt her).Discretion opens up the field of logistics. ” A couple years ago, a group of guys went off script and off the back to… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
7 years ago

@forge nah, I’m just gonna defend myself when others are making characterizations of me that are completely false. Like this stuff about me being “socially awkward”, that’s just silly if you are actually reading my FRs. You’ve got three basic guys. Think of breakfast club. There’s the alpha John, the athlete Andrew, and the nerdy guy Brian. I’m like andrew — a regular social dude, just not as overtly sexual as john is. But that’s a far cry from brian who has some serious social issues. This is what I mean by nuances. You can still be a social guy… Read more »

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

@Hank New vocabulary word for you: Bulverism (Coined by C.S Lewis) Bulverism is a logical fallacy that combines a genetic fallacy with circular reasoning. The method of Bulverism is to “assume that your opponent is wrong, and explain his error”. The Bulverist assumes a speaker’s argument is invalid or false and then explains why the speaker came to make that mistake, attacking the speaker or the speaker’s motive. The genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue) is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based solely on someone’s or something’s history, origin,… Read more »

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2016/12/cs-lewis-knew-gammas.html “Bulverists are gammas. Any time you are dealing with someone who always prefers to argue motive to substance, you have a pretty good clue that you’re dealing with a) a gamma male, and b) someone whose communications are limited to rhetoric. That means the only way you can even try to change their mind is to tell them they’re stupid and socially reject them.” If you would be more comfortable with being called a Delta faggot, let us know. Also let us know if you want us to stop testing your mettle. Delta: The normal guy. Deltas are the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Hank Cool social guys, IRL, have social circles… wide social circles… filled with women and men. And they are out doing stuff with these social circles, because they being cool and social get invited to do things – all the time.. Social circles are the most prime hook up opportunities – just ask your boy Luke. and they have guys to go sarge with. So? can you figure this out? Andrew had a huge social circle… How many house parties you going to tonight… on New Year’s Eve? One of the most social nights on the calendar. As a start…… Read more »

anon
anon
7 years ago

Odd that during the entire ostensible “grocery store pickup” conversation they held hands, kissed, she sat on his lap and they exchanged numbers. But never names.
They’d better reshoot that one again.

theasdgamer
7 years ago

@anon

lol, yeah

hank holiday
hank holiday
7 years ago

@SJF @stuffin see marriage debate, lol. when its an omg opinion, you are supposed to just accept their opinion, not question asked. Even if they call you a faggot or cocksucker. But…when yareally says that omg wives at 40+ aren’t gonna be 10s anymore, well that’s just so out of line. Everyone freaks out. Its totally isn’t beta or overly sensitive or anything. Nah, just tribalism as usual. We’re older, we’re always right, we can say whatever, if you question anything that’s throwing a hissy fit. Just a circle jerk like I’ve said. You can’t see how much you’ve said… Read more »

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

@ hank What exactly was the problem with the marriage debate? or the raising kids in a YaReally paradigm debate for that matter? BluePill Professor capped off the marriage debate very well here: https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/18/are-you-experienced/comment-page-9/#comment-164864 Big Al- I am happy you are participating in MRP but you may have missed the point and inadvertently given support to many “anti-MRP” Red Pillers. One of the main objections to MRP from Red Pill Guys is that it gives young men the idea that it can work so why not? Married Red Pill provides an excuse to get married and ignore the entire thrust… Read more »

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

@Hank

Old Man Game:

Arthur Charles Clarke’s Three Laws:

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology (or advanced Red Pill Game) is indistinguishable from magic.

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Hank Rather than argue about how cool and social you think you are, in the absence of proof, you can set about actually trying to be cool and social. And examine the reasons why you aren’t… Again instead of argue. So go hit all those house parties tonight with your social circle, then round back to those bars where the bartenders all know you and the waitresses and the groups of folks their who come and wish you happy new year, unbidden. Then come tell us what a cool social guy you are. Then there wont be any argument. 😔… Read more »

stuffinbox
7 years ago

@Hank

You are doing a great job man keep up the good work,remember if you have to go out to hunt down black girls,try really hard to make them smile so as you kin see them in the dark.
Happy new year!
Now It is time for the mountain king to leave his halls and journey to the continental divide,to soak in the smooth stone lined mineral baths with some stoned hot semi nekid young strange bohemian chikadees.

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Anon

Re names. I’ve picked up several girls and neither of us knew our names. Look into “liminal space”.

in fact it is a great diagnostic of where you are in your game and pick up when she is asking not what your name is but “who are you?”… And the answer is whatever fantasy she is projecting in her mind.

When attraction is maxed out, all that matters is being and feeling. That is when you really sweep a woman off of her feet. And it can be done in 15 minutes.

hank holiday
hank holiday
7 years ago

gonna write up my FR later, trying to remember. it all gets hazy after I took my first shot of jameson

or was it the third?

rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago
hank holiday
hank holiday
7 years ago

–FR– I took forge and habd advice to go out on new years. I worked till late, and my health issues have been bad lately (though I am working on them now, looking forward to when I can get them resolved, will make a big difference) but went out as soon as I could. Walking to a venue, I chatted up a couple who were going in the same direction. Remarked about how I just got off work — the guy did too. Then I said worst part was that I had to go in the morning as well —… Read more »

hank holiday
hank holiday
7 years ago

@SJF Heheh, our motives accomplished our goal for Hank. Without intent of malice not really. all this could have been accomplished months ago. The main thing those whole debacle got me noticing is all the overt invites or opportunities to hang out with other people. But that’s been going on for months. So rather than all this crap that’s gone down, what could have been said right after my FRs in the summer is “hey hank, remember that couple you played games with at the bar and you got their number and everything? have you hung out with them yet?”… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Hank all this could have been accomplished months ago. That’s what I’ve been saying… Let’s hope you aren’t writing the same thing 12 months from now. Seriously – drop the tantrum – you haven’t gotten the spooniest spoonful just to your liking exactly when you wanted it – Goldilocks… And start focusing on what isn’t working… what is holding you back… WHY this here is a thing at the late stage of your life: but didn’t go with them for some reason… Its kind of like in the past how I got IOIs from girls, but never pushed to close… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
7 years ago

“It takes Red Pill lenses on the dad to redirect the family dynamic and not so much self suppress the boys 100% of the time, rather than give him self discipline most of the time.” Mrs. isn’t so testing my behavior so much, I’m in a better position now. She is nervous tho about my calm, quiet. What irks her most are personal side conversations with my boys, esp. the oldest. I tell her their personal lives are not a public matter. She wants in. Speaking of, my oldest was to meet friends at a bar/grill last w/e @10 P.M.… Read more »

theasdgamer
7 years ago

@all Social Circle is the easiest mateseeking context if you play Fuckup Avoidance Game and try to be a little fun and very nice. Girls will make the first move. Of course, if you want to improve yourself, you move beyond the social circle context. Bring the party when you run an errand. Chat up the bank teller, the Walmart clerk, etc. Be an entertainer. I’m a bit of a social chameleon, so it’s good for me to hang around party people. Ok, so I have a joke I heard. New Years Resolution joke. A wife tells her husband, “You’ll… Read more »

theasdgamer
7 years ago

@hank

An old trick is to hang onto the same beer bottle all night, keeping just an ounce in it…you can refill with water if you finish it.

rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago
rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago

CSP
http://wp.me/p4tvpM-1NSg
rehabilitating feminism
http://wp.me/p6SXrP-jgh

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

Let me spare men some time. Rugby11 links to an essay on “rehabilitiating feminism”.

Here is the About for the site in question:
http://www.quillette.com/about/

Here is the author of that turgid effort:
http://www.jacoblittle.net/bio.html

Few things are dumber than a male feminist.

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
7 years ago

@hank – why don’t you just experiment with texting people to meet up socially? I mean, don’t overthink it – just be like “Yo, some of us are hanging out at X bar tonight..come along” – and see how that goes. Then use the response to refine things. Worst case scenario: no one turns up – you game as normal. Second worst – one person turns up – make up some story about how the others had to go to the ER with an emergency and proceed as normal and make insta-wings and new friends. Any more than that –… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Hank Good on going out! Ya, the best New Year’s places you need to get tickets for usually lol. But even at some random bar you’re likely to find some chick who’ll give you a kiss for the countdown at the very least. You pulled social game fairly well. Not much chick game though. Sounds like you were losing mental acuity by the time you were done with the bartender and the Asian set (which had bad logistics, not impossible but hard). So ya. As things stand now, two major things to do wrt game: get thee to a place… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

Well, that’s less than optimally legible….

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

Cool, so strikethrough works here?

Water Cannon Boy
Water Cannon Boy
7 years ago

To Marquis, If it hasn’t been said, and the advice I have looked at is good, it would be a good time to apply some Dread. All those comments asking if you learned that in some book is her testing if you have options. As Rollo has explained before, learning game and getting it is often met with criticism of it being something that takes mounds of effort to keep up. That it’s a role you play. Small demonstrations that what you’ve learned has become a part of you will work on her comments. Let her see you apply what… Read more »

SFC Ton
7 years ago

Remember you don’t have to have a side chick to make them think you have options

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

An update on the ‘dick twitch” woman https://therationalmale.com/2016/09/25/for-better-or-worse/comment-page-9/#comment-171878 So saw her once in early december at the same place, I was in the back, she came in, we caught eyes a few secs, she got a drink to go and split. She comes in again today. I am in the back counter, she comes in, we catch eyes, she gets her drink in a to go cup then comes down to me. She asks if I saw this other guy, a beta hug boy, and I say yeah he split. she says “Oh I told him I would meet him… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago
EhIntellect
EhIntellect
7 years ago

Alpha-Beta Communication… Yesterday at grocery store service counter. Stock boy 18 y.o is vying for a date with either of the two attendants: Him: “So you like to have 3 dates…., don’t date anyone under 20….don’t like to go out at night…” Me, looking at the 18 y.o girl.: Yo, bro. check this out. This is what a woman wants. (She looks at me, I lazer, tone low). She wants you to stare into her soul and grab her attention with your power, she wants to feel you might sweep her off her feet then and there, she wants to… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

EhIntellect

Yep. Alpha-Beta Communication.

http://img.pandawhale.com/159288-Clint-Eastwood-Dirty-Harry-thu-4NW7.jpeg

Outstanding demonstration…

and your boys are lucky… ball busting is a lost art… man I remember one of the first jobs I had where I was in charge of a group, of 4 guys… we all sat together in a bull pen and 8 hours a day it was all ball busting, day in and out. all kept on the edge but still playful. I was given the nick name “ginsu” there…

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Pellaeon
Pellaeon
7 years ago

@Hank Here’s a suggestion you may or may not have already considered – take a break from posting your field reports here and just do your own thing for a few months. That’s how I lost my virginity. I noticed that I always got push back and conflicting advice whenever I posted a field report. I would be happy about making some small milestone and then I’d get three people jumping in to tell me that I fucked up and should have gotten laid. I decided that I didn’t need this kind of constant naysaying, so I just started posting… Read more »

betashitgoblin
betashitgoblin
7 years ago

@scray @yareally @HABD @PUA I am trying to handle this is in a way that doesn’t feel like a man not owning my desires, but also doesn’t needlessly share all of my feelings. I haven’t killed the beta fully and don’t completely trust that I am not hamstering here. Woman I have been seeing about once a week for 2 months. Sex is great, her attitude is great. Does whatever I want and always responds to a text or call promptly. I am hooking up with other women. I have never talked about us being exclusive or even referring to… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Betashitgoblin well there is an empowering handle? Looking for advice, not just on what to do, but how to conceptualize this so that I can handle future situations. First sort yourself out… do YOU want to be “exclusive” or not. If not, just keep on doing whatever you want to do and when the day comes when she asks “are you seeing other people” you just say “of course” and go on about your day. Don’t try and sugarcoat it or pull a punch… own it and move on matter of fact. Don’t get into a tit for tat when… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
7 years ago

“Should I bring it up that I don’t view this as exclusive? There is a little voice in the back of my head that thinks I might be misleading her, and she has been cool enough that I don’t want to.” Plate Theory II: When it’s on the table like that it unsurprisingly becomes an affront to their pride and self-worth. However, in practice, non-exclusivity has to be covert. It needs to be implied, not declared. Thus you see the truth in POOK’s observation – women’s behavior will bear him out. Imagination and competition anxiety paired with implied non-exclusivity are… Read more »

theasdgamer
7 years ago

@Sentient

Great reply to goblin!

betashitgoblin
betashitgoblin
7 years ago

Thanks for the response Sentient and ehintellect. I will read and process later.

Sentient, don’t take that handle as any deep meaning. Beta shit goblin is a term I read from Married Red Pill and I think it is a fucking hilarious term for the little beta voice in one’s head. I just like the sound of it.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
7 years ago

Only just…

Alpha-Beta Communication…from the BP bowels, week one of new speech etiquette:

M.D.: Sorry I’m late everyone….I had…

BP RN: Oh doctor. You’re never late..nor early. (Glad I skipped lunch)

Me: Dude! Stop sucking ass in front of everyone! It ain’t looking good, ya know.

The gals in the room bust out laughing. RN states “You’re a trip. EhIntellect, we gotta go out for a drink.”

Friends, stop me before I blow myself up. More prudence…more prudence…nah, fuck that.

N1
N1
7 years ago

@Hank Holiday Ignore the noobs, there’s no reason you should justify yourself to them. I don’t even know why some of them are on the FR page, having clearly not done a proper pickup in a long time. PS some/all of the advice they are giving you is unhelpful and rubbish. “I worked till late, and my health issues have been bad lately” There’s no reason to post that here, go at your own pace, you don’t have to excuse yourself to us. I like the way you’re proactive and are well-calibrated socially with meeting people/giving value. Just remember that… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago
Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Betashit In addition to what’s been written, you should exercise prudence with the other girls you’re banging if you want to reduce drama and/or keep this girl as a pLTR. pLTR’s aren’t a bad thing, a bit of affection and female company past a plate bang is something a lot of guys like. But it does take a minimal degree of respect re: plates. Keep them from view. Limit their access to your emotions. Use proper precautions against pregnancy and STD’s, and keep yourself tested for them. If it comes out, ya, you want to be sure of your position.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

“Approach like you recognize them..”

and they owe you money… Very good opener:

You: Hey!
Her:?
You: Yeah Don’t I know you?…. [playing off the old lame gambit]
Her: (whatever – no or yes)
You: Yeah… Last week… we ran into each other… at the bar.
Her:(whatever)
You: yeah you borrowed $20 bucks from me! I want it back!

PS – Forge – nice comment!

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

oops meant on the other thread…. [this one is good too]

FIWL
FIWL
7 years ago

@PUA @hank @yareally @scray Guys, I finally slept with a girl (for the first time)I cold approached(feels so happy to do with a girl this way) in a bar…………….in India………… Kiss closed that night but slept with her after a few days in her place…Could have slept with her that night itself but didn’t because of logistics reason(which was solvable with some difficulty) but more importantly, I couldn’t believe myself that I can escalate the situation and go back to her place. Without yareally archive, i don’t think i would have pulled this off because though I have read other… Read more »

FIWL
FIWL
7 years ago

@scray

I remember you saying that it takes a year to even see the results.. and it took me one year of effort to finally manage to sleep with a chick..

It turned out to be true in my case… 🙂

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
7 years ago

@Forge – killing it with your posts generally in the last few days. @hank & @Pellaeon: Kinda agree with Pellaeon. It’s not the FRs that are bad. FRs are great and even if you don’t do them publicly and you don’t do them to the length Hank or I do, it’s a great idea to write private FRs, even if they are really short paragraph long ones – will take 5-10 mins – just good things, bad things, key sets, things to remember for next time (Julien has a section in PIMP where he talks about this) – @FIWL –… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 years ago

Here you go FIWL (and Culum)

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Leo Worthy…

FIWL
FIWL
7 years ago

@Culum Agreed. My FR in general have a similar structure lol. But my recent computer breakdown has me lose some of the stuff I have recently wrote. Will have to recall and post. In the mean time, about ONEitis with this girl. She is a married chick but a single mom lol. Weird that I slept with a far older cute looking chick my age is with more than 5 years difference between us(I am in mid twenties). So definitely it will not happen lol. Rollo’s post on ‘There is no one’ and recently ‘Disassembling Oneitis” has made me lose… Read more »

FIWL
FIWL
7 years ago

@Sentient @Culum

Thank you. Not many got to know about this except for a few closest friends who also know about game. I am not the sort who brags but this whole process has been a very humbling experience since it was in this website I got to know about yareally website and yareally and it all started things very seriously 🙂

betashitgoblin
betashitgoblin
7 years ago

@ Sentient, Forge, Ehintellect,

Thanks guys. I will not worry about it, and give a straightforward answer if/when it comes up and move on.

BTW, What the fuck happened with all the old guys here on RM and yareally? I saw some of the earlier talking past eachother nonsense but now YR left?

The pettiness and ubiquity of intertribal bullshit never ceases to amaze. I thought RM was a place that wouldn’t happen…

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

As far as inter-tribal bullshit normal masculine male firmware developed over 60,000 years goes, TRM is full of a lot of red pill aware masculine males and that shit is going to happen. There was a lot of stirring up of waters going on. And why not? That is what an active blog comments section is there for. You can’t deny the steadfastness of opposing tribes, or their skill in debate. It actually served the purpose of discussion that Rollo is well aware of from his early forum days on SoSuave. If you can advance your thoughts in the face… Read more »

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

@FIWL High Five. Nice going. “Now that I have tasted success, how can I give up gaming more girls ?” Trick question with a false blue pill premise. The gaming never ends, a man never seeks a completion in life. “Most men make the error of thinking that one day it will be done. They think, “If I can work enough, then one day I could rest.” Or, “One day my woman will understand something and then she will stop complaining.” Or, “I’m only doing this now so that one day I can do what I really want with my… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@FIWL Haha! Good man. I was very glad to read the LR. You put the work in. Your thoughts about what might have happened without a period of incel resonated. In my subculture, if I hadn’t had a late start with girls I would have married some decent chick at 20, had 4-6 kids and a sporadic sex life by now. A decent life but very….curated. Well, I still have a sporadic sex life but at least it’s great when it’s live 😉 I was a bit distressed to see the divide between the OMG’s and the YSG’s. YaReally shouldn’t… Read more »

Forge the Sky
Forge the Sky
7 years ago

@Culum

Thanks! I have less time to write here these days so I’m trying to make it count 🙂

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

@Forge the Sky “But she did not understand my insistence on finding out what was true rather than a nice story about humans and our place in the world.” That begs to be field-reported on. It speaks of a shit test by her. Test: to have always a different opinion than you in the course of a conversation. Purpose: if you express your opinion, it means you have the courage to defend yourself. But if you get pissed off at her comments it means you have a low self-esteem. Did you tease and exude amused mastery? Without talking about fight… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
7 years ago

CSP
http://wp.me/p4tvpM-1NUf
Self and projection
http://wp.me/p10w4n-4Ii

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